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In many ways, we've been taught to think that the real question is, do people deserve to die for the crimes they've committed?
En cierto sentido nos han ensañado a pensar que la pregunta final es, ¿las personas merecen morir por los crimenes cometidos?
en-es
And that's a very sensible question.
Das ist eine sehr sensible Frage.
en-de
But there's another way of thinking about where we are in our identity.
Mais il y a une autre façon de penser notre position dans notre identité.
en-fr
The other way of thinking about it is not, do people deserve to die for the crimes they commit, but do we deserve to kill?
A outra maneira de pensar sobre isso não é se as pessoas merecem morrer pelos crimes que cometeram, mas sim, merecemos matar?
en-pt-br
I mean, it's fascinating.
ผมว่า มันน่าแปลกใจมาก
en-th
Death penalty in America is defined by error.
je charakteristický – omyl.
en-cs
For every nine people who have been executed, we've actually identified one innocent person who's been exonerated and released from death row.
För var nionde person som har blivit avrättad, har vi faktiskt hittat en oskyldig person som har förklarats icke skyldig och släppts ur dödscellen.
en-sv
A kind of astonishing error rate -- one out of nine people innocent.
사형선고를 받은 9명중 1명이 죄가 없는 사람이라는 것은 엄청난 에러율입니다.
en-ko
In aviation, we would never let people fly on airplanes if for every nine planes that took off one would crash.
Na aviação, jamais permitiríamos que as pessoas voassem se de cada nove aviões que decolassem, um caísse.
en-pt-br
But somehow we can insulate ourselves from this problem.
Но някак си, ние се изолираме от този проблем.
en-bg
It's not our problem.
Ini bukan masalah kita.
en-ms
It's not our burden.
không phải gánh nặng của chúng ta
en-vi
It's not our struggle.
Bizim kavgamız değil.
en-tr
I talk a lot about these issues.
Eu falo muito acerca destas questões.
en-pt
I talk about race and this question of whether we deserve to kill.
Parlo di razza, e della questione di meritare o meno di uccidere.
en-it
And it's interesting, when I teach my students about African-American history, I tell them about slavery.
アフリカ系アメリカ人の歴史を教える時 生徒には奴隷制度について話します
en-ja
I tell them about terrorism, the era that began at the end of reconstruction that went on to World War II.
Govorim im o terorizmu, o eri koja je počela krajem 19. stoljeća i trajala do 2. svjetskog rata.
en-hr
We don't really know very much about it.
Մենք իրականում շատ բան չգիտենք այդ մասին։
en-hy
But for African-Americans in this country, that was an era defined by terror.
但對這個國家中的非裔美國人, 那是個充滿恐懼的年代。
en-zh-tw
In many communities, people had to worry about being lynched.
In molte comunità, la gente aveva paura di essere linciata.
en-it
They had to worry about being bombed.
Les preocupaba ser bombardeados.
en-es
It was the threat of terror that shaped their lives.
Mereka hidup dalam ketakutan.
en-ms
And these older people come up to me now and they say, "Mr. Stevenson, you give talks, you make speeches, you tell people to stop saying we're dealing with terrorism for the first time in our nation's history after 9/11."
E essas pessoas mais velhas vêm a mim agora e dizem, "Mr. Stevenson, você dá palestras, faz discursos, você diz às pessoas para pararem de dizer que estamos lidando com terrorismo pela 1ª vez na história da nação após 11/9."
en-pt-br
They tell me to say, "No, tell them that we grew up with that."
"Diga-lhes que nós crescemos com isso."
en-pt
And that era of terrorism, of course, was followed by segregation and decades of racial subordination and apartheid.
A quell'era di terrorismo, certo, sono seguite la segregazione e decenni di subordinazione razziale e apartheid.
en-it
And yet, we have in this country this dynamic where we really don't like to talk about our problems.
En este país tenemos una dinámica por la que no nos gusta hablar de nuestros problemas.
en-es
We don't like to talk about our history.
Nie lubimy rozmawiać o naszej historii.
en-pl
And because of that, we really haven't understood what it's meant to do the things we've done historically.
Dhe për këtë arsye, ne nuk kemi arritur ta kuptojmë çfarë do të thotë të bëjmë gjërat që kemi bërë historikisht.
en-sq
We're constantly running into each other.
Бид үргэлж хоорондоо мөргөлдөж байна.
en-mn
We're constantly creating tensions and conflicts.
Бид үргэлж маргаан, зөрчилдөөн үүсгэж байна.
en-mn
We have a hard time talking about race, and I believe it's because we are unwilling to commit ourselves to a process of truth and reconciliation.
Temos dificuldade em falar sobre raça, e creio que é porque nos recusamos a nos compromissar com um processo de verdade e reconciliação.
en-pt-br
In South Africa, people understood that we couldn't overcome apartheid without a commitment to truth and reconciliation.
Di Afrika Selatan, orang ramai faham bahawa mereka tidak dapat melupakan dasar aparteid melainkan mereka mahukan kebenaran dan perdamaian.
en-ms
In Rwanda, even after the genocide, there was this commitment, but in this country we haven't done that.
Ở Rwanda, thậm chí sau khi diệt chủng đẫm máu xảu ra, đã có cam kết được đưa ra nhưng ở đất nước này, chúng ta vẫn chưa làm được điều đó
en-vi
I was giving some lectures in Germany about the death penalty.
Ik gaf in Duitsland lezingen over de doodstraf.
en-nl
It was fascinating because one of the scholars stood up after the presentation and said, "Well you know it's deeply troubling to hear what you're talking about."
Het was fascinerend, want een van de geleerden stond op na de presentatie en zei: "Het is zeer verontrustend te horen waarover u spreekt."
en-nl
He said, "We don't have the death penalty in Germany.
Er sagte: "In Deutschland gibt es keine Todesstrafe.
en-de
And of course, we can never have the death penalty in Germany."
И разбира се, ние никога не бихме могли да имаме смъртно наказание в Германия."
en-bg
And the room got very quiet, and this woman said, "There's no way, with our history, we could ever engage in the systematic killing of human beings.
然後整個房間變得非常安靜, 這位女士接著說: 「我們從歷史得到的教訓, 讓我們絕對不可能 有系統地殺人。
en-zh-tw
It would be unconscionable for us to, in an intentional and deliberate way, set about executing people."
سيكون ذلك غير أخلاقيٍ بالنسبة لنا أن نشترك بتعمد و بطريقةٍ مقصودة في إعدام البشر."
en-ar
And I thought about that.
Τ' αναλογίστηκα αυτό.
en-el
What would it feel like to be living in a world where the nation state of Germany was executing people, especially if they were disproportionately Jewish?
ว่าจะรู้สึกอย่างไร ถ้าได้อยู่ในโลก ที่รัฐของประเทศเยอรมนีประหารชีวิตผู้คน โดยเฉพาะถ้าคนที่โดนประหาร จำนวนมากอย่างผิดสัดส่วน เป็นชาวยิว
en-th
I couldn't bear it.
Buna katlanamazdım.
en-tr
It would be unconscionable.
非良心的で受け入れられません
en-ja
And yet, in this country, in the states of the Old South, we execute people -- where you're 11 times more likely to get the death penalty if the victim is white than if the victim is black, 22 times more likely to get it if the defendant is black and the victim is white -- in the very states where there are buried in t...
Гэвч манай улсад өмнөд хэсгийн мужуудад бид хүмүүсийг цаазалж байна. Хэрвээ хохирогч хар биш, цагаан арьстан бол магадлал 11 дахин өснө. Сэжигтэн хар арьстан, харин хохирогч цагаан арьстан бол энэ магадлал 22 дахин нэмэгдэнэ. Энэ үзэгдэл хууль бусаар шийтгэгдсэн хүмүүсийн оршуулагдсан газарт.
en-mn
And yet, there is this disconnect.
이런 사실에도 불구하고 우리는 현실을 외면하고 있는데
en-ko
Well I believe that our identity is at risk.
Jag tror att vi riskerar vår identitet.
en-sv
That when we actually don't care about these difficult things, the positive and wonderful things are nonetheless implicated.
Че, когато ние не се вълнуваме за тези трудни неща, положителните и чудесни неща въпреки това са повлияни.
en-bg
We love innovation.
Mi volimo inovacije.
en-hr
We love technology. We love creativity.
기술과 창의성을 좋아하고,
en-ko
We love entertainment.
We houden van amusement.
en-nl
But ultimately, those realities are shadowed by suffering, abuse, degradation, marginalization.
Men i slutändan överskuggas dessa realiteter av lidande, misshandel, förödmjukelser, marginalisering.
en-sv
And for me, it becomes necessary to integrate the two.
marginalisasi. Bagi saya, sangat penting untuk mengintegrasikan keduanya.
en-id
Because ultimately we are talking about a need to be more hopeful, more committed, more dedicated to the basic challenges of living in a complex world.
زیرا که بالاخره ما در مورد نیاز بیشتر به امیدوار بودن، بیشتر متعهد بودن، بیشتر آماده‌بودن برای چالش های اساسی زندگی در یک دنیای پیچیده، صحبت می‌کنیم. زیرا که بالاخره ما در مورد نیاز بیشتر به امیدوار بودن، بیشتر متعهد بودن، بیشتر آماده‌بودن برای چالش های اساسی زندگی در یک دنیای پیچیده، صحبت می‌کنیم. زیرا که بالاخره ما د...
en-fa
And for me that means spending time thinking and talking about the poor, the disadvantaged, those who will never get to TED.
Миний хувьд, энэ нь ядуу, эмзэг бүлгийн, TED-д хэзээ ч оролцож чадахгүй тийм хүмүүсийн тухай бодож, ярихыг хэлнэ.
en-mn
But thinking about them in a way that is integrated in our own lives.
اما فکر کردن دباره انها به گونه‌ای که با زندگی خودمان عجین شود. اما فکر کردن دباره انها به گونه‌ای که با زندگی خودمان عجین شود.
en-fa
You know ultimately, we all have to believe things we haven't seen.
Các bạn biết đó, cuối cùng thì chúng ta cũng phải tin vào những gì mà chúng ta chưa từng tận mắt chứng kiến
en-vi
We do. As rational as we are, as committed to intellect as we are.
Nós temos. Racionais como somos, comprometidos com o intelecto como somos.
en-pt-br
Innovation, creativity, development comes not from the ideas in our mind alone.
Иновацията, творчеството, развитието идват не от идеите само в нашето съзнание.
en-bg
They come from the ideas in our mind that are also fueled by some conviction in our heart.
Ato vijnë nga idetë e mendjes sonë që po ashtu shtyhen nga një bindje nga zemra jonë.
en-sq
And it's that mind-heart connection that I believe compels us to not just be attentive to all the bright and dazzly things, but also the dark and difficult things.
Я верю, что эта связь сердца и ума, вынуждает нас обращать внимание не только на яркие и красивые вещи, но и на тёмные, сложные вещи.
en-ru
Vaclav Havel, the great Czech leader, talked about this.
Vaclav Havel pernah bercakap tentangnya.
en-ms
He said, "When we were in Eastern Europe and dealing with oppression, we wanted all kinds of things, but mostly what we needed was hope, an orientation of the spirit, a willingness to sometimes be in hopeless places and be a witness."
Dia kata, "Semasa berada di Eropah Timur dan berdepan dengan penindasan, kita mahukan pelbagai perkara, tapi apa yang kita paling mahukan ialah harapan, semangat, kesanggupan berada di tempat yang tiada harapan semangat, kesanggupan berada di tempat yang tiada harapan dan menjadi seorang saksi."
en-ms
Well that orientation of the spirit is very much at the core of what I believe even TED communities have to be engaged in.
فإن الدافع الروحي هو أساس كل ما أؤمن به حتى جمهور تيد عليه أن يكون مشتركاً في ذلك.
en-ar
There is no disconnect around technology and design that will allow us to be fully human until we pay attention to suffering, to poverty, to exclusion, to unfairness, to injustice.
Nem hagyatkozhatunk csak a technológiára és a designra, és maradhatunk mégis teljesen emberiek, amíg nem fordítunk figyelmet a szenvedésre, a szegénységre, a kitaszítottságra és az igazságtalanságra.
en-hu
Now I will warn you that this kind of identity is a much more challenging identity than ones that don't pay attention to this.
Kini saya peringatkan Anda bahwa identitas semacam ini adalah identitas yang lebih menantang daripada yang mengabaikan penderitaan itu.
en-id
It will get to you.
Вы это поймёте.
en-ru
I had the great privilege, when I was a young lawyer, of meeting Rosa Parks.
Als jonge advocaat had ik het voorrecht om Rosa Parks te ontmoeten.
en-nl
And Ms. Parks used to come back to Montgomery every now and then, and she would get together with two of her dearest friends, these older women, Johnnie Carr who was the organizer of the Montgomery bus boycott -- amazing African-American woman -- and Virginia Durr, a white woman, whose husband, Clifford Durr, represent...
וגב' פרקס נהגה לחזור למונטגומרי מדי פעם, והיא היתה נפגשת עם שתיים מחברותיה הקרובות, נשים מבוגרות, ג'וני קאר שהיתה המארגנת של חרם האוטובוסים במונטגומרי -- אשה אפרו-אמריקאית מדהימה -- ווירג'יניה דור, אשה לבנה, שבעלה, קליפורד דור, ייצג את דר' קינג.
en-he
And these women would get together and just talk.
Estas mujeres se reunían simplemente para hablar.
en-es
And every now and then Ms. Carr would call me, and she'd say, "Bryan, Ms. Parks is coming to town. We're going to get together and talk.
Dhe herë pas here Znj. Karr më telefononte dhe më thoshte, "Brajan, Znj. Parks po vjen në qytet.
en-sq
Do you want to come over and listen?"
¿quieres venir y escucharnos?"
en-es
And I'd say, "Yes, Ma'am, I do."
Ես ասում էի. «Իհարկե, տիկին, ես ուզում եմ»:
en-hy
And she'd say, "Well what are you going to do when you get here?"
「でも何をしに来るの」と言われたので
en-ja
I said, "I'm going to listen."
Я отвечал: «Я буду слушать».
en-ru
And I'd go over there and I would, I would just listen.
Я приходил, и я просто слушал.
en-ru
It would be so energizing and so empowering.
Det var så energigivande och inspirerande.
en-sv
And one time I was over there listening to these women talk, and after a couple of hours Ms. Parks turned to me and she said, "Now Bryan, tell me what the Equal Justice Initiative is.
Suatu kali saya di sana dan mendengarkan mereka berbincang, dan setelah beberapa jam Ny. Parks menoleh dan berkata, "Bryan, katakan mengenai <i>Equal Justice Initiative.</i>
en-id
Tell me what you're trying to do."
告訴我你打算怎麼做。」
en-zh-tw
And I began giving her my rap.
Začal jsem přeříkávat:
en-cs
I said, "Well we're trying to challenge injustice.
我說:「我們試著挑戰不正義。
en-zh-tw
We're trying to help people who have been wrongly convicted.
We proberen onterecht veroordeelden te helpen.
en-nl
We're trying to confront bias and discrimination in the administration of criminal justice.
我們試著對抗刑法審判時的 偏見和歧視。
en-zh-tw
We're trying to end life without parole sentences for children.
어린이들에게 가석방 없는 종신징역형을 내리지
en-ko
We're trying to do something about the death penalty.
Stiamo cercando di fare qualcosa contro la pena di morte.
en-it
We're trying to reduce the prison population.
我們試著降低監獄人數。
en-zh-tw
We're trying to end mass incarceration."
Үй олноор хорьдог явдлыг зогсооно."
en-mn
I gave her my whole rap, and when I finished she looked at me and she said, "Mmm mmm mmm."
Khi tôi nói hết ý của mình, bà ấy nhìn tôi và nói " ừm, ừm, ừm"
en-vi
She said, "That's going to make you tired, tired, tired."
היא אמרה: "זה יעשה אותך עייף, עייף, עייף."
en-he
(Laughter) And that's when Ms. Carr leaned forward, she put her finger in my face, she said, "That's why you've got to be brave, brave, brave."
(Tawa) Ny. Carr mencondongkan badannya, menyentuh wajah saya dengan jarinya, katanya, "Itu sebabnya kau harus berani, berani, berani."
en-id
And I actually believe that the TED community needs to be more courageous.
และผมเชื่อจริงๆ ว่าชุมชน TED ต้องกล้าหาญมากกว่านี้
en-th
We need to find ways to embrace these challenges, these problems, the suffering.
Kita perlu mencari cara untuk merangkul tantangan ini, masalah ini, penderitaan ini.
en-id
Because ultimately, our humanity depends on everyone's humanity.
Ведь, в конце концов, человечество зависит от человечности каждого.
en-ru
I've learned very simple things doing the work that I do.
Naučio sam jednostavne stvari baveći se ovim radom.
en-sr
It's just taught me very simple things.
งานนี้สอนความจริงพื้นฐานให้กับผม
en-th
I've come to understand and to believe that each of us is more than the worst thing we've ever done.
M-a învăţat lucruri foarte simple. Am ajuns să înţeleg şi să cred că fiecare dintre noi e mai mult decât cel mai rău lucru pe care l-am făcut.
en-ro
I believe that for every person on the planet.
Ես հավատում եմ, որ սա ճիշտ է մոլորակի բոլոր մարդկանց համար:
en-hy
I think if somebody tells a lie, they're not just a liar.
Jag tror, att om någon ljuger om något, så är denne inte bara en lögnare.
en-sv
I think if somebody takes something that doesn't belong to them, they're not just a thief.
もし他人の持ち物を盗んだ人がいても 単に泥棒とは考えません
en-ja
I think even if you kill someone, you're not just a killer.
وأؤمن حتى لو أنك قتلت شخصاً ما ، فهذا لايعني بأنك قاتلٌ مدى الحياة.
en-ar
And because of that there's this basic human dignity that must be respected by law.
Поэтому и есть фундаментальное человеческое достоинство, которое должно уважаться законом.
en-ru