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And that's the second question. | ซึ่งก็คือคำถามข้อที่สองนั่นเอง | en-th |
Our politics is broken, our politicians aren't trusted, and the political system is distorted by powerful vested interests. | Политиката ни е повредена, политиците не се радват на доверие и политическата система е изкривена от могъщи частни интереси. | en-bg |
I think there's two ways to resolve this paradox. | Pienso que hay dos formas de resolver esta paradoja. | en-es |
One is to give up on democracy; it doesn't work. | Unul este să renunţăm la democraţie; nu funcţionează. | en-ro |
Let's elect a populist demagogue who will ignore democratic norms, trample on liberal freedoms and just get things done. | 효과가 없잖아요. 대중의 인기만 신경쓰고 민주적인 규범은 무시하고, 우리의 자유를 짓밟는, 일만 잘하는 지도자를 뽑아요. | en-ko |
The other option, I think, is to fix this broken system, to bring the practice closer to the ideal and put the diverse voices of society in our parliaments and get them to make considered, evidence-based laws for the long-term good of everyone. | L'altra opzione credo sia quella di aggiustare il sistema rotto per rendere la pratica più simile all'ideale e mettere nei nostri parlamenti le diverse voci della società a creare leggi ponderate e basate sull'evidenza per il bene a lungo termine di tutti. | en-it |
Which brings me to my epiphany, my moment of enlightenment. | Ce qui m'amène à mon épiphanie, mon illumination. | en-fr |
And I want you to get critical. | मैं चाहता हूं कि आप आलोचना करें। | en-hi |
I want you to ask yourselves, "Why wouldn't this work?" | Ptejte se sebe: „Proč by to nemohlo fungovat?“ | en-cs |
And then come and talk to me afterwards about it. | E poi vorrei che me ne parlaste. | en-it |
Its technical name is "sortition." | Teknik adı ''kura ile seçme'' olsa da | en-tr |
But its common name is "random selection." | Mutta sen yleisempi nimi on "satunnainen valinta". | en-fi |
And the idea is actually very simple: we randomly select people and put them in parliament. | На самом деле принцип очень прост: мы выбираем людей наугад и сажаем их в парламент. | en-ru |
(Laughter) Let's think about that for a few more minutes, shall we? | (Gelach) Laten we daar eens een paar minuten over nadenken. | en-nl |
Imagine we chose you and you and you and you and you down there and a bunch of other random people, and we put you in our parliament for the next couple of years. | Представьте, что мы выбираем вас, вас и вот вас, там, внизу, и ещё сколько-то наугад взятых людей и помещаем вас в парламент на следующих пару лет. | en-ru |
Of course, we could stratify the selection to make sure that it matched the socioeconomic and demographic profile of the country and was a truly representative sample of people. | Voisimme tietysti ryhmitellä valinnan yhteensopivuuden varmistamiseksi maan sosioekonomisen ja demografisen profiilin kanssa ja jotta se todella olisi edustava näyte ihmisistä. | en-fi |
Fifty percent of them would be women. | 50% trong số đó sẽ là phụ nữ, | en-vi |
Many of them would be young, some would be old, a few would be rich, but most of them would be ordinary people like you and me. | उनमें से कई युवा होंगे, कुछ पुराने होंगे, कुछ अमीर होंगे, लेकिन उनमें से ज्यादातर होंगे आपके और मेरे जैसे सामान्य लोग। | en-hi |
This would be a microcosm of society. | Seria um microcosmo da sociedade. | en-pt |
And this microcosm would simulate how we would all think, if we had the time, the information and a good process to come to the moral crux of political decisions. | هذه الصورة ستحاكي طريقة تفكيرنا، إذا كان لدينا الوقت، فإن المعلومات عملية جيدة للوصول للجوهر الأخلاقي للقرارات السياسية. | en-ar |
And although you may not be in that group, someone of your age, someone of your gender, someone from your location and someone with your background would be in that room. | E anche se voi non foste in quel gruppo qualcuno della vostra età, del vostro sesso, qualcuno della vostra città e qualcuno con il vostro background sarebbe in quel gruppo. | en-it |
The decisions made by these people would build on the wisdom of crowds. | Onlar tarafından alınan kararlar kalabalığın bilgeliği üzerine inşa edilir. | en-tr |
They would become more than the sum of their parts. | Postali bi više od zbira svojih delova. | en-sr |
They would become critical thinkers with access to experts, who would be on tap but not on top. | Diventerebbero pensatori critici che avrebbero accesso ad esperti che sarebbero disponibili, ma non superiori. | en-it |
And they could prove that diversity can trump ability when confronting the wide array of societal questions and problems. | 또 여러 사회적 문제를 마주했을 때 다양성이 능력을 이길 수 있다는 것을 증명해 줄 것입니다. | en-ko |
It would not be government by public opinion poll. | 这不是基于公众意见调查的政府， | en-zh-cn |
It would not be government by referendum. | Se ei olisi kansanäänestysen muodostama hallitus. | en-fi |
These informed, deliberating people would move beyond public opinion to the making of public judgments. | هؤلاء الناس المطلعين والواعين سيتجاوزون الرأي العام لاتخاذ أحكام عامة. | en-ar |
However, there would be one major side effect: if we replaced elections with sortition and made our parliament truly representative of society, it would mean the end of politicians. | Lenne azért mindennek egy mellékhatása: ha a választásokat sorsolással helyettesítenénk, és a parlament valóban a társadalom reprezentatív képviseletéről szólna, az azt jelentené, hogy nem lennének többé politikusok. | en-hu |
And I'm sure we'd all be pretty sad to see that. | 我相信我們都會對此感到很傷心。 | en-zh-tw |
(Laughter) Very interestingly, random selection was a key part of how democracy was done in ancient Athens. | (웃음) 아주 흥미롭게도 고대 아테네에서 민주주의의 핵심을 이룬 부분이 바로 이 추첨이었습니다. | en-ko |
This machine, this device, is called a kleroteria. | Ovaj mehanizam, ovaj uređaj se naziva kleroterija. | en-sr |
It's an ancient Athenian random-selection device. | Той е древно-атинско устройство за случаен подбор. | en-bg |
The ancient Athenians randomly selected citizens to fill the vast majority of their political posts. | ชาวกรีกโบราณจะสุ่มเลือกชาวเมือง เข้าไปทำหน้าที่ส่วนใหญ่ในสภา | en-th |
They knew that elections were aristocratic devices. | Ze wisten dat de verkiezingen aristocratische constructies waren. | en-nl |
They knew that career politicians were a thing to be avoided. | Ze wisten dat carrièrepolitici een te vermijden ding waren. | en-nl |
And I think we know these things as well. | ולדעתי, גם אנו יודעים את הדברים האלה. | en-he |
But more interesting than the ancient use of random selection is its modern resurgence. | ولكن الأكثر إثارة للاهتمام من الاستخدام القديم للاختيار العشوائي هو انبعاثه من جديد. | en-ar |
The rediscovery of the legitimacy of random selection in politics has become so common lately, that there's simply too many examples to talk about. | El redescubrimiento de la legitimidad de la selección aleatoria en la política, se ha vuelto tan común últimamente, que simplemente hay demasiados ejemplos de los que hablar. | en-es |
Of course, I'm very aware that it's going to be difficult to institute this in our parliaments. | Natuurlijk weet ik ook dat het moeilijk zal worden om dit door onze parlementen te krijgen. | en-nl |
Try this -- say to your friend, "I think we should populate our parliament with randomly selected people." | 試しに友人に向かって 「議会は無作為に選んだ人たちで 構成すべきだと思うんだよね」と言ったら | en-ja |
"Are you joking? | - Tu rigoles ? | en-fr |
What if my neighbor gets chosen? | ”如果我的邻居被选上了怎么办？” | en-zh-cn |
The fool can't even separate his recycling." | Aptal şey çöplerini bile ayırt edemiyor.'' | en-tr |
But the perhaps surprising but overwhelming and compelling evidence from all these modern examples is that it does work. | 但所有這些現代的例子， 都有驚人但具壓倒性說服力的證據， 證明它確實行得通。 | en-zh-tw |
If you give people responsibility, they act responsibly. | Дайте человеку ответственность, и он будет действовать ответственно. | en-ru |
Don't get me wrong -- it's not a panacea. | Đừng hiểu lầm tôi, nó không phải thuốc vạn năng. | en-vi |
The question is not: Would this be perfect? | 但问题的关键不在于 这种制度是否是完美的。 | en-zh-cn |
Of course not. | Natuurlijk niet. | en-nl |
People are fallibly human, and distorting influences will continue to exist. | Οι άνθρωποι κάνουν αναπόφευκτα λάθη και οι στρεβλές επιρροές θα εξακολουθήσουν να υπάρχουν. | en-el |
The question is: Would it be better? | 问题的关键是， 这种制度是更好的吗？ | en-zh-cn |
And the answer to that question, to me at least, is obviously yes. | والجواب على هذا السؤال، بالنسبة لي، من الواضح سيكون نعم. | en-ar |
Which gets us back to our original question: How should we live together? | Isto nos leva à nossa pergunta original: Como deveríamos viver juntos? | en-pt-br |
And now we have an answer: with a parliament that uses sortition. | Και τώρα έχουμε μια απάντηση: με μια βουλή που σχηματίζεται με κλήρωση. | en-el |
But how would we get from here to there? | Πώς όμως θα φτάσουμε από εδώ εκεί; | en-el |
How could we fix our broken system and remake democracy for the 21st century? | كيف يمكننا إصلاح نظامنا المعطوب وإعادة الديمقراطية للقرن ال21؟ | en-ar |
Well, there are several things that we can do, and that are, in fact, happening right now. | できることはいくつかあり しかも実は 今まさに 実践されています | en-ja |
We can experiment with sortition. | Chúng ta có thể thử nghiệm rút thăm. | en-vi |
We can introduce it to schools and workplaces and other institutions, like Democracy In Practice is doing in Bolivia. | Μπορούμε να την εισάγουμε στα σχολεία, σε χώρους εργασίας και άλλους οργανισμούς, όπως η Δημοκρατία στην Πράξη κάνει στη Βολιβία. | en-el |
We can hold policy juries and citizens' assemblies, like the newDemocracy Foundation is doing in Australia, like the Jefferson Center is doing in the US and like the Irish government is doing right now. | On pourrait créer des jurys politiques et des assemblées citoyennes, comme le fait la fondation « newDemocracy », en Australie, comme le fait le centre Jefferson, aux États-Unis et comme le fait le gouvernement irlandais en ce moment même. | en-fr |
We could build a social movement demanding change, which is what the Sortition Foundation is doing in the UK. | Podríamos construir un movimiento social que exija cambios, que es lo que está haciendo la Fundación de Insaculación en el Reino Unido. | en-es |
And at some point, we should institute it. | 然后在未来的某个时候， 我们应该将这种制度创立起来。 | en-zh-cn |
Perhaps the first step would be a second chamber in our parliament, full of randomly selected people -- a citizens' senate, if you will. | Poate că primul pas ar fi înfiinţarea unei a doua camere în Parlament alcătuită din oameni aleşi la întâmplare, un senat al cetăţenilor. | en-ro |
There's a campaign for a citizens' senate in France and another campaign in Scotland, and it could, of course, be done right here in Hungary. | Vannak erre törekvések Franciaországban, Skóciában és itt is megvalósítható, Magyarországon. | en-hu |
That would be kind of like a Trojan horse right into the heart of government. | Olyan lenne ez, mint a trójai faló: benn a kormányzat szívében | en-hu |
And then, when it becomes impossible to patch over the cracks in the current system, we must step up and replace elections with sortition. | عندما يصبح الأمر مستحيلًا لرأب صدع النظام الحالي، يجب علينا الإسراع في استبدال الانتخابات بنظام الكوتا، | en-ar |
I have hope. | ผมยังมีความหวัง | en-th |
Here in Hungary, systems have been created, and systems have been torn down and replaced in the past. | यहां हंगरी में, सिस्टम बनाए गए हैं, और सिस्टम को तोडा और बदला गया है भूतकाल में। | en-hi |
Change can and does happen. | A változás lehetséges és meg is történhet. | en-hu |
It's just a matter of when and how. | มันขึ้นอยู่กับว่า เมื่อไหร่ และ อย่างไร | en-th |
Thank you. (Hungarian) Thank you. | Hvala vam. (Na mađarskom) Hvala. | en-sr |
The digital divide is a mother that's 45 years old and can't get a job, because she doesn't know how to use a computer. | Дигитални јаз је мајка која има 45 година и не може да добије посао јер не зна како да користи компјутер. | en-sr |
It is an immigrant that doesn't know that he can call his family for free. | وفي مهاجر لا يعرف أن بإمكانه مكالمة أسرته مجانًا | en-ar |
It is a child who can't resolve his homework, because he doesn't have access to information. | È un bambino che non può farsi i compiti, perché non ha accesso all'informazione. | en-it |
The digital divide is a new illiteracy. | 情報格差は新しい形の非識字です | en-ja |
"Digital divide" is also defined as: the gap between individuals and communities that have access to information technologies and those that don't. | "ความเหลื่อมล้ำทางดิจิทัล" หมายถึง ช่องว่างระหว่างคนและกลุ่มคน ที่เข้าถึงเทคโนโลยีสารสนเทศได้ กับกลุ่มคนที่เข้าไม่ถึง | en-th |
Why does this happen? It happens because of 3 things. | Tại sao điều này lại xảy ra? Vì ba nguyên nhân. | en-vi |
The first is that people can't get access to these technologies because they can't afford them. | A primeira é porque as pessoas não têm acesso a estas tecnologias porque não as podem pagar. | en-pt |
The second is because they don't know how to use them. | A másik: nem ismerik a használatukat. | en-hu |
The third is because they don't know the benefits derived from technology. | Son olarak, teknolojinin getirdiği faydalardan bir haberler. | en-tr |
So let's consider some very basic statistics. | 基礎的な統計について考えてみましょう | en-ja |
The population of the world is nearly seven billion people. | दुनियाँ की आबादी लगभग सात अरब लोगों की है। | en-hi |
Out of these, approximately two billion are digitally included. | แต่มีเพียงราว 2 พันล้านคน ที่เข้าถึงเทคโนโลยี | en-th |
This is approximately 30% of the entire world population, which means that the remaining 70% of the world -- close to five billion people -- do not have access to a computer or the internet. | Asta înseamnă aproximativ 30% din întreaga populație a lumii, ceea ce înseamnă că restul de 70% — aproape cinci miliarde de oameni — nu au acces la un computer sau internet. | en-ro |
Let's think about that number for a second. | Давайте поразмыслим над этой цифрой. | en-ru |
Five billion people; that's four times the population of India, that have never touched a computer, have never accessed the internet. | Ötmilliárd ember! India népességnek ötszöröse, amely sose látott számítógépet, sose kapcsolódott föl az internetre. | en-hu |
So this is a digital abyss that we're talking about, this is not a digital divide. | Hakkında konuştuğumuz şey, bu dijital boşluk işte, bu bir sayısal uçurum değil. | en-tr |
Here we can see a map by Chris Harrison that shows the internet connections around the world. | Aici putem vedea o hartă de Chris Harrison care arată conexiunile la internet din lume. | en-ro |
What we can see is that most of the internet connections are centered on North America and Europe, while the rest of the world is engulfed in the dark shadow of digital divide. | हम जो देख सकते हैं वह है सबसे अधिक इंटरनेट कनेक्शन उत्तरी अमेरिका और यूरोप पर केंद्रित हैं, जबकि बाकी दुनियाँ घिरी हुई है अंकीय भेदभाव के अंधेरे छाया में। | en-hi |
Next, we can see connections, city-to-city, around the world, and we can see that most of the information generated is being generated between North America and Europe, while the rest of the world is not broadcasting their ideas or information. | A côté, on peut voir les connexions ville-à-ville, dans le monde. On peut voir que la plupart des informations générées le sont entre l'Amérique du Nord et l'Europe, tandis que le reste du monde ne diffuse pas ses idées ou ses informations. | en-fr |
So what does this mean? | Bu ne anlama geliyor? | en-tr |
We are living in a world that seems to be having a digital revolution, a revolution that everyone here thinks that we're part of, but the 70% of the world that is digitally excluded is not part of this. | Világunk, amelyben élünk, mintha a digitális forradalomban lenne, s mind úgy gondoljuk, hogy részesei vagyunk. De a világ 70%-a digitálisan ki van zárva belőle | en-hu |
Well, the people that will be digitally excluded won't be able to compete in the labor markets of the future, they won't be connected, they'll be less informed, they'll be less inspired and they'll be less responsible. | Las personas excluidas digitalmente no podrán competir en los mercados laborales del futuro, no estarán conectadas, estarán menos informadas, estarán menos inspiradas y serán menos responsables. | en-es |
Internet should not be a luxury, it should be a right, because it is a basic social necessity of the 21st century. | Internetul nu ar trebui să fie un lux, ci un drept pentru că este o necesitate socială de bază a secolului XXI. | en-ro |
We can't operate without it. | Onsuz iş göremeyiz. | en-tr |
It allows us to connect to the world. | Dünyaya olan erişimimizi sağlıyor. | en-tr |
It empowers us. | Dá-nos capacidades. | en-pt |
It gives us social participation. It is a tool for change. | A társadalmi életben való részvétel és a változás eszköze, | en-hu |
And so, how are we going to bridge this digital divide? | Donc, comment allons-nous combler cette fracture numérique ? | en-fr |
Well, there are many models that try and bridge the digital divide, that try and include the population at large. | 有許多模型是用來彌補數位落差的， 它們嘗試把一般的人口都納入。 | en-zh-tw |
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