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So for example, take the Jewish idea of forgiveness. | 举个例子 像是犹太人懂得宽容 | en-zh-cn |
Jews are very interested in forgiveness and how we should start anew and start afresh. | Judar är väldigt intresserade av förlåtelse och hur de ska kunna börja om från början. | en-sv |
They don't just deliver us sermons on this. | Nu ne ţin doar predici despre asta. | en-ro |
They don't just give us books or words about this. | Sadece kitaplar ya da sözler vermezler. | en-tr |
They tell us to have a bath. | Μας λένε να κάνουμε ένα μπάνιο. | en-el |
So in Orthodox Jewish communities, every Friday you go to a Mikveh. | Jadi, di masyarakat Yahudi Ortodoks, anda melakukan Mikveh (semacam mandi besar) tiap Jumat | en-id |
You immerse yourself in the water, and a physical action backs up a philosophical idea. | Te scufunzi în apă, iar actul fizic susține ideea filozofică. | en-ro |
We don't tend to do that. | Mi nismo nagnjeni k temu. | en-sl |
Our ideas are in one area and our behavior with our bodies is in another. | Наші переконання -- це одне, а тіло -- зовсім інше. | en-uk |
Religions are fascinating in the way they try and combine the two. | Οι θρησκείες είναι συναρπαστικές με τον τρόπο που συνδυάζουν αυτά τα δύο. | en-el |
Let's look at art now. | Давайте сейчас поговорим об искусстве. | en-ru |
Now art is something that in the secular world, we think very highly of. We think art is really, really important. | Искусство - это то, что в светском мире мы очень ценим. Мы считаем, что искусство очень очень важным. | en-ru |
A lot of our surplus wealth goes to museums, etc. | คนที่มั่งคั่งเงินเหลือก็จะไปพิพิธภัณฑ์ เป็นต้น | en-th |
We sometimes hear it said that museums are our new cathedrals, or our new churches. | 有這麼一個講法 說美術館是新式教堂 | en-zh-tw |
You've heard that saying. | Slišali ste, da to govorijo. | en-sl |
Now I think that the potential is there, but we've completely let ourselves down. | Så jag tror att potentialen finns men att vi totalt svikit oss själva här. | en-sv |
And the reason we've let ourselves down is that we're not properly studying how religions handle art. | और निराशा की वजह ये है कि हमने इस बात को ठीक से जाना ही नही है कि धर्म कला को कैसे चलाते हैं. | en-hi |
The two really bad ideas that are hovering in the modern world that inhibit our capacity to draw strength from art: The first idea is that art should be for art's sake -- a ridiculous idea -- an idea that art should live in a hermetic bubble and should not try to do anything with this troubled world. | Dve resnično slabi ideji, ki lebdita v sodobnem svetu in ki ovirata našo sposobnost črpanja moči iz umetnosti: Prva ideja je, da je umetnost namenjena sama sebi -- to je nesmisel -- zamisel, da bi umetnost morala živeti v hermetičnem mehurčku in ne bi smela poskušati narediti karkoli s tem razburkanim svetom. | en-sl |
I couldn't disagree more. | मैं ये बिल्कुल नही मानता. | en-hi |
The other thing that we believe is that art shouldn't explain itself, that artists shouldn't say what they're up to, because if they said it, it might destroy the spell and we might find it too easy. | Wierzymy też, że sztuka nie powinna sama się wyjaśniać, a artyści nie powinni zdradzać, co tworzą, ponieważ wtedy czar pryśnie i sztuka będzie dla nas zbyt prosta. | en-pl |
That's why a very common feeling when you're in a museum -- let's admit it -- is, "I don't know what this is about." | Đó là lý do chúng ta khi bước chân vào bảo tàng hay có một cảm xúc chung thế này -- hãy thú nhận -- rằng, "Tôi chẳng hiểu nó đang nói cái gì." | en-vi |
But if we're serious people, we don't admit to that. | Maar als we serieuze mensen zijn, geven we dat niet toe. | en-nl |
But that feeling of puzzlement is structural to contemporary art. | A ta občutek zbeganosti je sestavni del sodobne umetnosti. | en-sl |
Now religions have a much saner attitude to art. | Religioonidel on palju mõistlikum suhtumine kunsti. | en-et |
They have no trouble telling us what art is about. | Nemajú problém povedať, o čom umenie je. | en-sk |
Art is about two things in all the major faiths. | L’art c’est deux choses dans toutes les plus grandes religions. | en-fr |
Firstly, it's trying to remind you of what there is to love. | İlki, size sevilecek nelerin olduğunu hatırlatmaya çalışıyor. | en-tr |
And secondly, it's trying to remind you of what there is to fear and to hate. | Dan kedua, seni mencoba mengingatkan anda apa yang bisa anda takuti dan benci. | en-id |
And that's what art is. | וזוהי האמנות. | en-he |
Art is a visceral encounter with the most important ideas of your faith. | L'arte è un incontro viscerale con le idee più importanti della vostra fede. | en-it |
So as you walk around a church, or a mosque or a cathedral, what you're trying to imbibe, what you're imbibing is, through your eyes, through your senses, truths that have otherwise come to you through your mind. | Дакле, док ходате црквом или џамијом или катедралом, оно што својим очима и чулима покушавате да упијете, су истине које иначе сазнајете умом. | en-sr |
Essentially it's propaganda. | Pada dasarnya, hal-hal tersebut adalah propaganda. | en-id |
Rembrandt is a propagandist in the Christian view. | Rembrandt'as yra propagandistas, krikščionių akimis žiūrint. | en-lt |
Now the word "propaganda" sets off alarm bells. | Le mot « propagande » fait sonner l’alarme. | en-fr |
We think of Hitler, we think of Stalin. Don't, necessarily. | Nos remite a Hitler, a Stalin. | en-es |
Propaganda is a manner of being didactic in honor of something. | Propaganda ist eine Methode, zu Ehren von etwas didaktisch vorzugehen. | en-de |
And if that thing is good, there's no problem with it at all. | 如果宣扬的东西是有益处的 那这手段也没什么问题 | en-zh-cn |
My view is that museums should take a leaf out of the book of religions. | На мій погляд, музеям варто взяти приклад з релігій. | en-uk |
And they should make sure that when you walk into a museum -- if I was a museum curator, I would make a room for love, a room for generosity. | 美術館に歩み入ったとき･･･ 私が作るとしたら 愛の部屋や寛容の部屋を設けるでしょう | en-ja |
All works of art are talking to us about things. | Te gjitha veprat e artit na thone dicka. | en-sq |
And if we were able to arrange spaces where we could come across works where we would be told, use these works of art to cement these ideas in your mind, we would get a lot more out of art. | A kdybychom je uspořádali podle významu, pomohlo by nám to použít je k upevnění ideálů v naší mysli. Prohloubilo by to náš prožitek | en-cs |
Art would pick up the duty that it used to have and that we've neglected because of certain mis-founded ideas. | A művészet felvenné régi kötelességét, melyet elhanyagoltunk bizonyos rosszul alakult eszmék miatt. | en-hu |
Art should be one of the tools by which we improve our society. | Kunst peaks olema üks vahenditest, mille kaudu me saame ühiskonda parandada. | en-et |
Art should be didactic. | Menas turėtų mokyti. | en-lt |
Let's think of something else. | Hai să ne gândim la altceva. | en-ro |
The people in the modern world, in the secular world, who are interested in matters of the spirit, in matters of the mind, in higher soul-like concerns, tend to be isolated individuals. | Njerezit ne boten moderne, laike, te interesuar ne ceshtje spirituale, ne ceshtje te mendjes, ne ceshtje shpirterore me te larta, kane prirje te jene individe me te izoluar. | en-sq |
They're poets, they're philosophers, they're photographers, they're filmmakers. | जैसे कि कवि, दार्शनिक, फ़ोटोग्राफ़र और फ़िल्मकार. | en-hi |
And they tend to be on their own. | Y tienden a estar solos. | en-es |
They're our cottage industries. They are vulnerable, single people. | هم اكواخنا الصناعية, ضعفاء, افراد | en-ar |
And they get depressed and they get sad on their own. | Und sie sind deprimiert und werden allein traurig. | en-de |
And they don't really change much. | Họ không thực sự thay đổi nhiều. | en-vi |
Now think about religions, think about organized religions. | Şimdi dinleri düşünelim, organize dinleri. | en-tr |
What do organized religions do? | Što rade organizirane religije? | en-hr |
They group together, they form institutions. | Jos grupuojasi, kuria įstaigas. | en-lt |
And that has all sorts of advantages. | 이들은 유리한 점을 많이 가지고 있어요. | en-ko |
First of all, scale, might. | S veľkosťou rastie moc. | en-sk |
The Catholic Church pulled in 97 billion dollars last year according to the Wall Street Journal. | Według „The Wall Street Journal” kościół katolicki zarobił w zeszłym roku 97 mld dolarów. | en-pl |
These are massive machines. | Bunlar devasa makinalar. | en-tr |
They're collaborative, they're branded, they're multinational, and they're highly disciplined. | آنها همکارو همدست هستند، آنها نام شناخته شده دارند، ، چند ملیتی، و به شدت منظم هستند. آنها همکارو همدست هستند، آنها نام شناخته شده دارند، ، چند ملیتی، و به شدت منظم هستند. | en-fa |
These are all very good qualities. | Ce sont toutes de bonnes qualités. | en-fr-ca |
We recognize them in relation to corporations. | Ги препознаваме во однос на корпорациите. | en-mk |
And corporations are very like religions in many ways, except they're right down at the bottom of the pyramid of needs. | Và những tập đoàn kinh doanh rất giống với tôn giáo theo nhiều mặt, ngoại trừ việc các tập đoàn này nằm dưới cùng trong kim tự tháp về nhu cầu | en-vi |
They're selling us shoes and cars. | Elles nous vendent des souliers et des voitures. | en-fr-ca |
Whereas the people who are selling us the higher stuff -- the therapists, the poets -- are on their own and they have no power, they have no might. | Miközben azok az emberek, akik magasabb rendű dolgokat nyújtanak -- terapeuták, költők -- egyedül vannak és nincs erejük, nincs hatalmuk. | en-hu |
So religions are the foremost example of an institution that is fighting for the things of the mind. | Έτσι, οι θρησκείες είναι το βασικότερο παράδειγμα ενός οργάνου που μάχεται για τα ζητήματα του νου. | en-el |
Now we may not agree with what religions are trying to teach us, but we can admire the institutional way in which they're doing it. | شاید ما با آنچه که ادیان میخواهن به ما آموزش دهند موافق نباشیم، اما میتوانیم شیوه های سازماندهی آنها که با آن کار میکنند، را تحسین کنیم. شاید ما با آنچه که ادیان میخواهن به ما آموزش دهند موافق نباشیم، اما میتوانیم شیوه های سازماندهی آنها که با آن کار میکنند، را تحسین کنیم. شاید ما با آنچه که ادیان میخواهن به ما آموزش د... | en-fa |
Books alone, books written by lone individuals, are not going to change anything. | Vienas pašas grāmatas, grāmatas, ko uzrakstījuši vientuļi cilvēki, neko nemainīs. | en-lv |
We need to group together. | グループになる必要があります | en-ja |
If you want to change the world, you have to group together, you have to be collaborative. | Si vous voulez changer le monde, vous avez besoin de vous regrouper, de faire collaboration. | en-fr-ca |
And that's what religions do. | In to počnejo religije. | en-sl |
They are multinational, as I say, they are branded, they have a clear identity, so they don't get lost in a busy world. | Sunt organizaţii multinaţionale, sunt recunoscute, au o identitate clară, ca să nu se piardă într-o lume care aleargă. | en-ro |
That's something we can learn from. | Це добра наука для нас. | en-uk |
I want to conclude. | Zhrniem to. | en-sk |
Really what I want to say is for many of you who are operating in a range of different fields, there is something to learn from the example of religion -- even if you don't believe any of it. | 다양한 분야에서 일하는 여러분들에게 제가 정말로 해드리고 싶은 말은 여러분이 종교를 전혀 믿지 않더라도 종교로 부터 배울점들이 있다는 것입니다. | en-ko |
If you're involved in anything that's communal, that involves lots of people getting together, there are things for you in religion. | 많은 사람들이 모여서 공동으로 하는 어떤 일에 여러분께서 관련이 있으시다면 종교로 부터 무엇인가 배울 수 있습니다. | en-ko |
If you're involved, say, in a travel industry in any way, look at pilgrimage. | เช่นถ้าคุณทำงาน ในอุตสาหกรรมการท่องเที่ยว ไม่ว่าทางไหนก็ตาม ลองมองไปที่นักจาริกแสวงบุญ | en-th |
Look very closely at pilgrimage. | Išstudijuokite piligrimus. | en-lt |
We haven't begun to scratch the surface of what travel could be because we haven't looked at what religions do with travel. | Chúng ta thậm chí vẫn chưa chạm đến bề nổi của du lịch lữ hành thực sự là gì bởi vì chúng ta chưa quan sát cái mà tôn giáo tác động lên du lịch. | en-vi |
If you're in the art world, look at the example of what religions are doing with art. | Se siete nel mondo dell'arte, guardate l'esempio di quello che la religione fa con l'arte. | en-it |
And if you're an educator in any way, again, look at how religions are spreading ideas. | Et si vous êtes un éducateur, regardez comment les réligions répandent leurs idées. | en-fr-ca |
You may not agree with the ideas, but my goodness, they're highly effective mechanisms for doing so. | Ni se vam treba strinjati z idejami, vendar so zelo učinkovit mehanizem za to. | en-sl |
So really my concluding point is you may not agree with religion, but at the end of the day, religions are so subtle, so complicated, so intelligent in many ways that they're not fit to be abandoned to the religious alone; they're for all of us. | خُب واقعا نتیجه گیری من این است که شما شاید با دین و مذهب موافق نباشید، خُب واقعا نتیجه گیری من این است که شما شاید با دین و مذهب موافق نباشید، اما در نهایت ، در بسیاری جهات ادیان بسیار ظریف، بسیار پیچیده، بسیار هوشمند هستند اما در نهایت ، در بسیاری جهات ادیان بسیار ظریف، بسیار پیچیده، بسیار هوشمند هستند اما در نهایت ،... | en-fa |
(Applause) Chris Anderson: Now this is actually a courageous talk, because you're kind of setting up yourself in some ways to be ridiculed in some quarters. | (Plojimai) Chris Anderson: Tai iš tiesų drąsi kalba, nes iš dalies jūs pats save pakišat būti kai kurių išjuoktam. | en-lt |
AB: You can get shot by both sides. | AB: Pode-se ser atingido por ambos os lados. | en-pt |
You can get shot by the hard-headed atheists, and you can get shot by those who fully believe. | คุณอาจถูกยิงจากกลุ่มอเทวนิยมที่ดื้อรั้น และคุณอาจถูกยิงจาก กลุ่มที่เชื่อศาสนาอย่างสุดโต่ง | en-th |
CA: Incoming missiles from North Oxford at any moment. | CA: Vsak čas bodo priletele rakete iz Severnega Oxforda. | en-sl |
AB: Indeed. | AB: 그렇습니다. | en-ko |
CA: But you left out one aspect of religion that a lot of people might say your agenda could borrow from, which is this sense -- that's actually probably the most important thing to anyone who's religious -- of spiritual experience, of some kind of connection with something that's bigger than you are. | Maar je liet een aspect van religie buiten beschouwing. Veel mensen zouden stellen dat jouw agenda daarbij gebaat zou zijn namelijk het gevoel -- waarschijnlijk het belangrijkste voor ieder religieus mens -- van een spirituele connectie, van een zekere connectie met iets dat groter is dan jij bent. | en-nl |
Is there any room for that experience in Atheism 2.0? | יש מקום כלשהו לתחושה הזו באתאיזם 2.0? | en-he |
AB: Absolutely. I, like many of you, meet people who say things like, "But isn't there something bigger than us, something else?" | ええ 私はよく「でも 我々よりも もっと大きな何かがあるのでは？」 と言う人に出会います | en-ja |
And I say, "Of course." And they say, "So aren't you sort of religious?" | Une them, "Sigurisht." Me thone, "Je ne ndonje menyre fetar?" | en-sq |
And I go, "No." Why does that sense of mystery, that sense of the dizzying scale of the universe, need to be accompanied by a mystical feeling? | واجيب ,"لا " لماذا ذلك الشعور بالغرابة ذلك الشعور بالمقاييس المذهلة للكون, تحتاج ان تترافق مع شعور صوفي؟ | en-ar |
Science and just observation gives us that feeling without it, so I don't feel the need. | विज्ञान और सही अवलोकन हमे बिना इसके ही ये एहसास दिला सकते हैं, तो मुझे तो किसी आध्यात्मिकता की जरूरत नही लगती. | en-hi |
The universe is large and we are tiny, without the need for further religious superstructure. | L'univers est grand, et nous, on est petit, sans le besoin de la superstructure réligieuse. | en-fr-ca |
So one can have so-called spiritual moments without belief in the spirit. | لذلك احدهم صادف لحظة روحية بدون الايمان بالروح | en-ar |
CA: Actually, let me just ask a question. | คริส แอนเดอสัน: จริงทีเดียว ผมขอถามคำถามหนึ่ง | en-th |
How many people here would say that religion is important to them? | Hur många människor skulle säga att religion är viktigt för dem? | en-sv |
Is there an equivalent process by which there's a sort of bridge between what you're talking about and what you would say to them? | Je tu nejaký proces, nejaký akokeby most medzi tým, čo hovoríš, a čo by si im povedal? | en-sk |
AB: I would say that there are many, many gaps in secular life and these can be plugged. | 阿兰: 我觉得世俗的世界是有许多缺点的 但是那些缺点是可以被弥补的 | en-zh-cn |
It's not as though, as I try to suggest, it's not as though either you have religion and then you have to accept all sorts of things, or you don't have religion and then you're cut off from all these very good things. | 종교를 믿으면 종교의 모든 것을 수락해야 하고, 종교를 믿지 않는다고 종교의 좋은 점들을 가질 수 없는건 아니죠. | en-ko |
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