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you go over a little bridge and there's the town hall right there in the middle.
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it's very small. i mean, that serves as sort of the nucleus of the town.
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... the town hall. around that you have an old closed down barbershop, an old closed down cafe.
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there's many churches in the town and then there's an office for veterans and there's one cafe that's still open.
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old bus stop diner, sounds like something straight out of the movies like fargo or something.
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stepping into a place like this is a bit awkward for a stranger.
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it's the kind of place where everybody knows everybody.
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the old bus stop diner is kind of the meeting place of everybody in town.
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i mean, there's a bunch of old men sitting around, smoking cigarettes and just shouldn't-
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[inaudible 00:04:33] some of them are telling jokes, some of them are just hanging out.
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some of them are waiting to go to work, some of them don't have work.
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it's a really interesting place. there's a lot of life in it.
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[inaudible 00:04:49] is a 68 year old guy whose sort of done everything. he was a volunteer deputy sheriff at one point, i think in the '70s.
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he worked as a guard at the local school at some point. until today, he mows and does the landscaping at the local cemetery.
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most people there consider him sort of the town's oral historian because he knows the background of everybody's families-
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... to the old bus stop diner. he could point at them and then say the last five generations of their family's history right away off the top of his head.
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there in boonville with his grandparents from a young age, they were very poor and very religious family, very conservative.
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didn't finish school. he had to start working for his-
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and then he spent most of his life there.
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that could be a half hour, it could be more. folks who go to university have to drive.
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i think the closest university is about an hour, an hour and a half away. for young people-
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... it seems like there's not a lot to do. that's what i was told over and over again.
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the cinema closed down many years ago, the drive-in movie theater closed down many years ago.
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most of the restaurants and most of the grocery stores-
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... most of the hardware stores, all of this stuff closed down years ago.
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for instance, when walmart was opened up in a neighboring county-
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... they couldn't compete. life is immensely quiet.
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you're not going to see tons of folks out because there's not many places to go.
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we have food that we give to the senior citizens on the main back shelf back there and this-
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... section is snacks for the children and to go in their food bags.
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bags would have rats where they'd been eaten on.
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and then i found out i was getting contaminated from meth, from those that came with these bags.
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everybody's is into their selves. they're not thinking about the children.
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nobody really actually knows how many people live there.
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it's so densely populated and of course it's all technically illegal because nobody has papers for the land.
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and we're talking about it as kenya's biggest slum but sometimes when you're reading in articles about it or watching videos-
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... it's actually described as africa's biggest slum. you'll find wildly varying figures for its size.
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sometimes it's as big as a million residents.wow.the most accurate study-
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... i could find, which was conducted by the french institute for research in africa-
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... they came to around 200,000 residents which i think is fairly accurate.
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it's huge but it's not a million people.
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it's not that big. if our listeners want to see how densely populated it is, they can actually head over to google-
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... satellite view and look at kibera from the air. you can barely see any roads.
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they're mainly small alleyways of mud in between-
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... these tightly packed homes which are themselves mostly made of mud.
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you see hassan in kibera, i told you don't step on any plastic paper bag you see on the road.
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why?people here pooh on the paper bags at night and they tie it and throw it away-
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... with [inaudible 00:08:24].these are all full of-full of human shit my friend.he tried and tried and-
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... somehow despite his best efforts, he always ended up saying this bad word and in the end we just gave up and used it as it was.
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[inaudible 00:08:39] you'll see these long rubber pipes, sometimes, maybe 10 of them next to each other.
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considering all of this hassan, what's the impact on the health of the people there?
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so what's next? i mean, what's being done about this?
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little projects that have sprung up around kibera to try and find ways to solve the problem. we met a youth group that built a batch of public-
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... toilets and what they do is they charge locals-
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to use these bathrooms. number one or number two.okay.that keeps the waste off the streets and also gives these guys a source of income and employment.
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the guy we interviewed, one of the youth leaders, his name is hassan abdulkadir.
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he told us that a lot of his group had actually been involved in serious criminal activity.
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okay. that all helps a bit with the sanitation and the petty crime but what about the much bigger issue of people having access to clean water?
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but i imagine it's a bit problematic to get the water to the people and thus bypass the water cartels, right?
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the same ngo also runs another project.
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and that's where you met victoria, who was one of the main characters of the story.
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one of the first things she told us was that people would mock her in the beginning for attending the classes.
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they'd say things like, "oh, you're a mother, and you're going to school-
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... why are you wasting your time? just stay at home and look after your kids," and so on.
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but she ignored all these naysayers. she didn't let them bother her, and i personally really admired her for that.
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by the time we filmed her, she'd been studying for two years, and she absolutely loved it.
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[inaudible 00:00:52]. that's good.she really was an inspiration to both me and my al jazeera colleague, mohammed tayeb as we were filming her.
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this woman, who grew up in this slum, against all the odds,
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... she was fighting to change her life and give her kids also the best possible future.
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[inaudible 00:01:24].
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most of their stations in our country,
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but when there is like positive or negative, we promote their film or we are there for them, always.
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ask the question because you'll end up having a lot of enemies, but...
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with the police passing by, find a policeman, taking bribe, maybe ask, hey,
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what are you going to report?so...
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wow, so despite all this, they're still really popular. why is that?
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yeah, it's definitely again, got caught up in that, [crosstalk 00:01:59]but that...
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i was just a mayor. whenever it came...
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presedent and when i realized that it was running into millions...
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i'm more determined to kill those would want...
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my police force. i do not need civilians to do it. and why should i commission somebody to kill another?
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when i can always use the police? just order them to get them. if i...
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when you rape my daughter, would you think even, wait, what do you think my...`
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anger can wait justice? of course not. i will kill you.
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are they finding the figures or those are actual hard...[crosstalk 00:02:52].i think...
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evidence?well, the hard evidence is according to the...
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it's only 1.6 million filipinos. so his critics are saying that, of course the duterte would just try to exaggerate the numbers because...
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he wants to justify his all out war on drugs.
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so for short, governments take their cues from the public, but that also goes the other way.
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governments also affect what people think is normal and acceptable behavior.
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house to taste attitude of shoot first and...
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maybe ask questions later, effecting the filipino society.
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i'm saying, wait, this isn't right. who's standing up to the president?
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now, have you guys approached david mayfield by, at all?
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[inaudible 00:03:47].
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i think we have deborah davis on. hi, deborah. we got you at last. congratulations on the documentary. it's explosive, eh?
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so you walked into a charity where they'd increase the casework.
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in the private rented sector where they have private landlords rather than social housing.and is that a bad thing? is that a good thing?well,
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do you think the government sees you as a friend or an enemy.
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well, i think one, it's part of your strategy it's then thinking through the skill set and the methodology you want for you. i mean, i have been really lucky to have been...
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