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... martha and mary. and so i know that this is like a tiny devotional book, somebody that was interested in this, to read devotionally.
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and so jerome son of joseph, you know, wherever he is [inaudible 00:08:41] -
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... was reading this book and telling us, this is my book.
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another cool inscription in here is the librarian, the 16th century librarian. he says...
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... yes, that's an italian. he says on the 9th of november-
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... that he wrote in this book, he marked it as we do in our library he names himself, loren...
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he says, i'm lorenzo mcgauna and he names-
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... another person, a notary who's working with him. and we mark-
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... this book as we do in our library with the [foreign language 00:09:22].
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... and i might even be able to extrapolate more information from that because-
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... shelf a in monastic libraries, that was the shelf that you would put all the books that you would need to read for your theological readings,-
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... you know, or your devotion reading. so today, that would...
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... and so that might give a clue. if i look more at the history of libraries, maybe this came from a monastic library.
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we're a religious library. so, that would be really interesting as well.
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so, yeah, there's just, when i first look at a book and i first get it.
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i feel like i'm having a conversation with a 500 year old person.
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and so my task is just to sit with it long enough and be informed enough about all these aspects of it, the text...
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and the inscriptions and the binding and...
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the history of those places to really get it's full history...
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out of it. so the more things that are in the book, the more i can learn about them.yes.
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so this one has the various hands written in there?
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you talked about with a classical scholar, so university,
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so all that would have not necessarily been totally separate in the time, but they're different kinds of books.
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so it's showing that lots of different kinds of books are getting printed in this...
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kind of binding. right? is there anything that usually doesn't get printed in, that you haven't yet found in limp?like i [crosstalk 00:01:24] would,
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is there one more book that you'd like to share with us this afternoon?
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that's what looking at these books can tell you all kinds of information you didn't even know you were looking for. [crosstalk 00:01:36].
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if you know how to decode it.yeah.yeah.cool.well, thank you very much for talking with us.oh, thanks so much for [crosstalk 00:01:42] inviting me.completely fascinating.
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the united states.right. well, thanks.
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that's really exciting. and it is lovely to do it in this space.
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it's really got a great ambiance to it so...
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so i want to acknowledge that we're here in the traditional territory of the potawatomi people...
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the prevalence of american indian mascots in sports...
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is definitely a phenomenon.and it's one that we've become more self-conscious about more recently.
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and, but i'd say that you really also need to think about the prevalence of american indian names in the military,
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a military unit. i think a division that was called the blackhawks.
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so, we not only embrace american indian individual names and tribal names for sports, but we also do it for military.
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that's partly because in both instances,
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we're looking at battle, right? whether it's on the sports field or actually in the battle field,
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this important shift from being the scary savages.
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who are subhuman and trying to kill all of us, to being the noble savages,
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who are close to nature,
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who are more pure than we are, who are,
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who are yeah, natural environmentalist's for example, and who are known for being courageous,
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and we'll even use the word brave and we'll say the braves. so, there really has been then a national shift that took...
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are frozen in amber. right? they are the sepia toned people. i like...
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to think of them as, because to this...
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day you will have regular people in american...
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on horseback. and that's like expecting...
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for our non-indigenous american citizens to be living as if it's still a little house on the prairie days. and yet,
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they don't see the disconnect there, because there's an understanding of the authenticity of american indians as being in the past.
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that's the imagery that we get. when you see american indians in media-
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they're typically in the past, so they are in period pieces.
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they are in movies, good and bad, in which they are in buckskins and riding on horses and living in teepees, so...
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so of course then, you have generations of americans who are raised thinking that-
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so it's-
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it's a person as a character; it's a culture as a caricature.
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so-called american indians or people who go to festivals...
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... and wear big feather headdresses. it's cultural appropriation, and-
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it has become, in a lot of cases, big business. but when you get past, or if you can-
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... just set aside the big business for a while-
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... it's impossible to ignore how wedded people, fans become-
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... to these images and to these representations. it becomes part of a shared sports culture-
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... shared sports traditions, shared sports rituals, right? and that could be for anything, right? they could be pretending to-
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... be panthers or whatever, but instead-
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... we have opinion on these issues.
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for example, even chief wahoo, as opposed-
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to the chicago black-
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...hawk, because they see blackhawk as an actual person and not a caricature.
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so from an indigenous perspective, what is the defense of a mascot like chief wahoo?
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... humanities and the humans behind them. i'm alex teller, director of editorial services at the newberry. in this episode, because-
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what is an urbanologist and what does it mean to do urban studies?
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okay. so when you're studying cities, what exactly does that... well, what's your aim? what are you trying to understand?
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so it makes sense that you do a lot of walking tours. you walk around cities a lot, sort of logical. how does the archives come into what you do?
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archives give that scholarly and academic rigor to-
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i was walking on north clark street, which is part of an upcoming project in mind-
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in the near north community area, properly known as river north.
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its their place, their architecture, the past inhabitants really brings... that's kind of how i get started. and i say, how can we flesh out this story?
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so i come back to the archives, and of course we're so lucky to have so much stuff digitized.
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i'm old enough as a gen x-er to remember when you had no choice.
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all right. what kind of contribution to civic life does that make? how does that interact with the whole urban environment?
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i think what the dill pickle club did for chicago, and there were predecessor art colonies as well, too, the art colony on 57th-
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... street that was established. right around the talent, the columbian exposition was there for 65 years. old towe-
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they give the city that kind of informal-
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... place for not just socializing kind of conversation about arts and culture.
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it's great to go into a fancy, wonderful-
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... neoclassical building sanctioned by wealthy philanthropists and investors-
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... also that place for informal, less structured opportunity.
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you walk, as they say, you step low and you'd come into the dill pickle club. and of course we have no radio recordings-
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you could find a million groups like this, but it was quite novel, and almost nothing remains-
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it's all kind of upscale living, single room-
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quincy hotels are gone. but the dill pickle really gave it that kind of sense of-
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here's this kind of unsanctioned informal space. and as a result-
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... dill pickle club doesn't show up in the chicago tribune-
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... the chicago daily news, or the other papers of the period because it's on the fringes, which i think is really great.
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that's really interesting. so what does remain? you said there aren't very many recordings and we have all these records, so what are they?
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we'll put some of these documents on the website when we upload the podcast, so if you are curious and want to see them, we'll have an image for you.
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and one, that also is they weren't afraid of shying away from some of the more controversial political issues of the time as well.
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i have in my hand a announcement for a january 4th lecture from 1925 that promises elmer l. williams discussing, will chicago elector-
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racketeer mayor. with thompson barrett, lyle albert surmac-
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