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i know that she studied classically and when she, with these got up to the upper register and then through the horn, it was really even. it felt like it was-
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... strongly anchored in that classical tradition and that's what was kind of throwing me off from her. the sound-
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i can't really think of too many women out there that are playing-
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... that i've heard that sounds reflective of that, so.yeah. she's pretty remarkable.
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i don't know. [crosstalk 00:04:43] has melissa aldana been here?
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i think maybe. yeah? no? okay.
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that's what he was dealing with, all right. and i-
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the music, that's something that mccoy tyner said, is it?
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yeah. he was always pressured in, that's what eric dolphy is reminiscing,
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they didn't sound anything alike, but they still inspired each other, which was, they
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were each other's contemporaries. yeah. but they still were inspiring each other and pushing each other, which is really interesting because a lot of people's contemporaries
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[inaudible 00:00:27] are you ready for another one? yes, yes, we're in for the fences here. really? who?
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i'll give you the date that this was from, and you can make an educated guess, 1997. oh, okay. so, who was playing the piano with
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him? are you ready for another one?
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it was, well, i don't know if it's the room,
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i was really trying to center in on the sound of the...
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i don't know who it is,
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the recording.
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yeah, i don't know who it is.
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cool, should i put it out to the audience? anybody want to make an educated guess as to who this is?
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in this next track is just one tuba, but there is a tuba.
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what did you think about it? yeah, beyond intent, what did you think?
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when he or she went to go solo, it's like
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i was gonna to say james carter?
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no, no. yeah. that's i don't know, the precision of articulation,
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that was one thing that
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kind of made me feel like it was james carter.
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i think he would have gotten more into his solo, during that section,
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but this individual was
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more
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from new orleans
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that's the strong element of, but i don't,
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i'm trying to put pieces together and i've never been good with puzzles.
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you know what? i'd like you to skip over the next one? okay,
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i have one more too, it's kind of obscure, it was recorded in 1947,
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some people may recognize it, but can we go back to number
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eight?
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it's more obscure. it's very obscure, i'm sorry that we playing this with you. no, no, no, no.
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you may not heard the recording through him. oh really? yeah. this song has been passed on several generations,
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picked up on and then forgotten. you know it?
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cordon spark, last song on that, there you go.
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i don't know if she listened to it. hopefully,
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in the beginning it wasn't, then it got just a little bit better. you all were very sweet,
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yeah, it was good, thank you. it was a great experience now that i'm done with it.
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what we talked about before we even went on stage
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the whole thing of being articulate and your reflections, and you were incredibly articulate, we really appreciate that.
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thank you, i appreciate that. so this will be in the downbeat magazine, sometime early next year. so check it out, i'll be transcribing it up.
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the podcast, isabelle, anna, beth, and maggie are a group of women who want it all, and they doing their darnedest to get it all.
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the characters declare this about men; men are a luxury and one i can live without.
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it's interesting, talking about it, sort of the role of man, it actually made me think about how fortunate i am to be in a situation where i do have a husband who is
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loving. i don't think you are, and i think the more you just have to, talking about it helps,
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i hope. i feel like we've been backsliding in a recent political atmosphere
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getting, further along and i think that's what happens. i think it's three steps forward, two steps back.
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i do think that that's what happens. i think it's inevitable that we will gain.
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the handmaid's tale has become very popular again for a reason. right? right
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that is the fear and that's what we're looking at. but besides that, i think that women
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and the men who understand the conflict:
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your husband, my husband, my sons really get it.
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it will start to shift, but it's a shift
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valued less. and one of my colleagues just had a baby and she was really nervous about
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it. i said that breaks my heart, that a woman today has a child and believes that
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she's going to be right. [crosstalk 00:00:38] valued less at work. and i said no. the language around motherhood is, i mean, this is something i've just written about in a nonfiction
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essay. that motherhood is often the language around
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that of selflessness and sacrifice and almost martyrdom. and by that you give up agency, right?
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mm-hmm (affirmative) it's like, i'm going to give myself over to this thing. and what i wanted to say is that motherhood,
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i want to twig that and i want to start thinking if motherhood is something that is a privilege
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and selfish. you put your genes in the world, you put this child in the world,
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someone you will do anything to help put in the world. now, again,
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this is coming from a very privileged place. and i understand that cause i can talk about segments of society,
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where this is not true at all. mm-hmm (affirmative). but i write from where i know, where i lived, and that i believe that this
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language of sort of giving, it's like you become pregnant,
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you walk around with that belly. people feel like they have the right to touch you. they have the right to tell you what to eat.
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why shouldn't... that was born out of being pregnant... not being able to find bras and panties that fit [crosstalk 00:01:59] because they're just hideous. right.
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somebody should be able to look lovely
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while we are in this very ripe and beautiful, sensual physical stage of being pregnant.
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you either can... it's like the virgin mary, right? you can... you sanctify her in order to take away. and then you don't know anything about her, how powerful is she?
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i mean, then you can go into that whole... i mean... that's another thing.
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now you know what they're going through? well, absolutely.
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it's very hard to avoid that you saw it everywhere. and then we moved to america in the mid nineties, and then i sort of kept coming back to india every six months.
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we had our family based there, so my parents brought us back very often. and distance,
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the obvious topic that came to me, because there was just so much material,
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that right now, there's so much going on and so much that's happening right now that's so horrifying and so shocking and so awful and at the same time
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i soon discovered that lizzie was somebody who was never really going to tell me the truth,
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and so because of that, feel like actually it was quite an amazing way to get a story to unfold from a writing perspective.
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yeah. and so the question i was trying to get to is what would we build if we got to build it? so you think the house is a tear down? not a [inaudible 00:03:29]
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addition? i mean i think that the house is some good foundations but, i think
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paid vacation and paid sick time and leave... [crosstalk 00:03:43]
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and including maternity leave and [crosstalk 00:03:46] paternity leave. right and paternity leave. boring. [crosstalk 00:03:51] also, it costs $20 and i do not want to spend that much. [inaudible 00:03:54] probably took a [crosstalk 00:03:54] so then i put it back on the [crosstalk 00:04:00]
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but yeah so that's how it started.
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cause i'd never heard of the case. i'm just wondering if anyone else listening here when you're two [inaudible 00:04:08] [crosstalk 00:04:08]
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well you know there's lots of reasons. one, i went method, [crosstalk 00:04:17] what better way.
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they have no idea where they are, so i took it upon myself to say
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that's when mr. borden was murdered and then they were sleeping in the room. abby was killed. so i forget the question, but that was awesome.
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that ghost crazy lady [inaudible 00:04:39] and then 10 years until we were holding this book in our hands today.
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so one was, i think i actually didn't really know what i was doing, to be honest with writing this novel. and so i did have quite a few different versions.
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and i would get sort of halfway and go, 'oh, it's just not working.'
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but i always had her voice, so i knew that. and so, that's when i decided, well-
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i think i really do... i personally like maltin reader novels and stuff like that.
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so i kind of thought, well, lizzie is never going to give us a straight story.
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