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and school. young children. and we just didn't know what was in store for us with respect to the volatility of the virus.
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i think we were in the state of tremendously unpleasant uncertainty and fear. and just trying to cope with that day to day kind of thing.
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there just seemed to be a lot happening in the world that was very frightening.
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how you get through a day when everything seems to be exploding in every domain of your life and in the world.
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then there was all the whiplash because as science progresses...
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there's not a good supply and it also is going to actually make you...
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it's going to be more harmful because you're going to do things like touch your mask and then touch other people. and so all of the medical people...
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were worried that nonmedical people wearing mask were in danger of really spreading the contamination.
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okay. don't do that thing that we thought we were doing right before.
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but that doesn't mean we like or condone.
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we're out of stock. you couldn't get headphones or it's like you couldn't get a podcast.
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somewhat stable for the last little while.
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and we're just all waiting to get our vaccine or our second dose of our vaccine.
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for parents. i think they're facing what is going to happen with my child.
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probably getting pretty burnt out and tired by now.
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it can't be easy for people who have all of that going on.
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i don't think she had in mind anything about the problems of the pandemic.
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right.when she was telling me that. but stress will occur at any time for any of us.
H
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when our perceived demands of the environment are stronger or more than our perceived capacity to cope.
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capacity to cope, so if stress will occur when we have a big numerator and a smaller denominator. and that sort of becomes our stress.
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we have higher stress and that can happen at any point to anybody.
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to feel stressed is normative.
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when your equation is out of whack.
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think of an anxiety problem as more of an ongoing.
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it may get exacerbated by changes in the environment.
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so we would think of an anxiety problem as being less situation determined and more of a consistent issue for people.
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there are anxiety disorders, so there'd be like panic disorders.
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mental health issues is that the person is not overall having a problem.
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arthritis in their left knee, that they have a physical illness.
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we would say they have arthritis in their left knee, and i think that we want to use that kind of language when we're talking about mental health challenges.
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it's not that the person themselves is ill.
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it's that there's a particular difficulty in functioning in a particular area.
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but the anxiety disorders are of course.
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is that people... they feel anxiety frequently and intensely in situations that other people don't seem to feel anxiety to the same degree by far.
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oh, okay. so in your example with the numerator and denominator-
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the perceived ability to cope is a smaller number.
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i think the one of the chronic issues is that there's perceived stresses of the environment.
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they find threat where other people would not.
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and what anxiety does is, because it focuses us on threat.
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anxiety focuses our attention on threat and it sort of suppresses our capacity to see things that aren't threatening and to reference our strengths.
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this is how our equation can get out of whack, is that what...
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we are mostly focused on what we can't do and what we don't have and why.
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so, our perceived capacity to cope diminishes.
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it's got to do with worrying about things that may not come to pass.
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and when we're doing that in an anxious state, again, because of the way anxiety affects us.
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it causes us to focus on what could go wrong.
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we're only bringing into that thinking the things that could go wrong.
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we tend to completely not even consider what might be neutral.
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yes. but you don't have to prepare for the positive outcome.
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that's true. but it's interesting because positive outcomes do require preparation.
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in that sense. i would also add that the further...
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we go into the future as we're what if'ing, the less information we actually have to create.
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and that in itself undermines our sense of our capacity to cope because we don't have enough information to know what we're going to do.
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happens when we're stressed for months and months at a time or even a year or more.
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all right. so all organisms, but humans rely on a threat-
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a threat system that maximizes our potential to flee or fight danger and-
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the amygdala, which is this little area of the brain that's shaped like an almond-
H
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it tells the brain to tell the little adrenal glands on top of our kidneys to produce adrenaline.
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adrenaline does all kinds of things in the body.
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your hands are clammy and your feet might be clammy and-
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a portion of this is that we're most likely to get, if we're being preyed upon, we're most likely to be grabbed by our hands or our feet, our extremities.
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and so if we're bitten or grabbed-
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but it can also create tingling sensations in the hands and feet that people are like, "what is happening to me? am i having an aneurysm?" it's like, "no."
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but the issue for people, is that if you're under chronic stress, that this-
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all of this arousal can take its toll on the bodies.
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irritable bowel syndrome, constant high blood pressure of course, has its effects.
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what we may not realize is that again, as humans-
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but what we are equipped to do is to have a very rapid focus on threat and to use our memories.
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there's a lot of evolutionary benefit for us to be riveted. our minds to be riveted on threat and threat cues when we're anxious.
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but it's less fine than when we're trying to figure out whether or not to put our children into online school or not.
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you may find that you're really focused on what could be threatening about each one of the courses of action that you could take and not able to reference-
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what might be good about any course of action.
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we will be very attentive to information that suggests its dangerous and-
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so we start to construct the world as being quite threatening because we're just laser focused on threat.
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if we're able to step back and create distance between ourselves and the perceived threat.
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but that's an important step that we need to do.
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all day long at a full-time job with a child at home, looking after the child and then having to put dinner on the table, et cetera. that-
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that is a chronic environmental stressor that's objectively speaking, extremely stressful.
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so that grind, and if there's also lack of sleep and physical fatigue from not getting enough rest, it-
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can affect the body and it can make people quite sick over time.
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maybe i can't change the fact that i have a full-time job at home and i have to look after my children-
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but what are some perceived stresses that i may not need to be trying to worry about? so for example, if-
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you're in that situation and you're trying to work out and getting very stressed about what's going to happen when my children return to school-
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how delayed are they in their education, their development and their learning?
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that's creating more demands of the environment than you need to be concerned about right now because there's nothing you can do about that. you, as one-
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my colleague says, "don't borrow trouble from the future."
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it's illuminating the information, the resources we have at hand in the here and now.
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the less we know and the more remote our understanding will be.
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or reconcile it, you don't have enough information. you're-
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too far in the future. you're better off using your mental resources and strength and energy on managing the problems that are in your sphere right now.
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that's fine. but as soon as you're getting beyond that-
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uncertain kind of future, where all of your planning just may go to not because you don't have enough information.
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you could be spending a lot of time figuring out a whole bunch of solutions to things that... or even worse-
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not finding solutions to things that actually, don't even come to pass.
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and that's exhausting and it's unnecessary.
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work on the things that are at hand and also remind ourselves to have faith that good things can happen too. that there could be neutral outcomes.
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for example, children might rebound really fast. once they're back in a rich learning environment with other kids and it's all very stable and settled-
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there could be all kinds of resources that are put in place to help that child.
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we will deal with it and good outcomes can come and neutral outcomes can come.
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have you spoken to people who are anxious about vaccines?
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