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like with many things. I mean this is something else we talked about earlier that I think would be kind of nice to flesh out now.
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earlier about the adoption of technology and how new technologies has made living life in the time of age.
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much easier for many people in so many ways. And I think that's great.
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And I feel really happy about that, you know, and I think that...
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person, not in person, hybrid, whatever your district is doing in the next few weeks.
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thought I would, but I kind of like working from home some of the time. Yeah.
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trying to pass judgment, both good and bad and complicated and messy ways.
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with two children under five is very different. Yeah.
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and go to a small handful of neighborhoods every day for work. I think that perhaps that doesn't make...
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kind of headquartered office.
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model, you had more of almost like a hub and spoke model or distributed offices.
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I don't think people are gonna work remotely forever. I actually, I think.
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the road. And I think you're still, so you still might want people to all be in the same regional area, but maybe you have a small office.
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by your house that you can walk to or bike to or whatever. And you can go to that office and it's set up like...
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but maybe not. And then you have a place where you can go where you all need to get together. But all of a sudden now...
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Now you're distributing office space across a much broader swath of this city. And that does a couple of things.
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again though I doubt it. And also, you know, again in...
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we put it out that really showed where opportunity was for New Yorkers who wanted to take advantage of workforce development programs in technology.
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tech like now you're talking maybe you can give those
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It's easier to give those kids exposure because they're geographically proximate. You can really start to rethink how cities can flow because...
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This could work and I just think that's a really interesting
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not just the same people who have always worked in tech.
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Yeah, I mean, I think a couple things on that. One, I...
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I also think the narrative about people living...
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disease is probably overblown. I mean I'm sure that there are a bunch of people and there are a bunch of people probably...
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But they're generally the people who moved to cities for work and didn't necessarily.
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like cities but I actually think that there will probably be plenty of people
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who were saying, well, you know, now living in a city might not be quite as expensive as it was before.
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you know once things settle down and once we're sort of past this.
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here is a new opportunity to get into a city and to get all the benefits of living in a city as well.
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I mean, things have been great here recently.
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whole time with my whole family. We're able to go to the parks, the playgrounds are open.
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we sit outside, you feel like you're in...
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I always do. You know, that kind of vibrancy is amazing.
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to eat outside and things like that. I'm sort of curious to see how these things adapt.
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And don't get me wrong, this whole thing!
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like George Floyd, Breonna Taylor.
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It's white people.
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Even though you're still living in the least upwardly mobile country.
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No, more bullshit! That's bullshit!
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that this program historically didn't and the tech community didn't work together.
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And what I hope is going to come out of this is that these tech companies here in New York who have weathered this crisis better than many others are going to be more integrated.
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They're going to be more bought into helping New Yorkers.
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become become part of our industry because that has
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to be that has to be the future. And there's a lot written about how people are leaving cities and they're moving to the suburbs or...
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towns I don't listen I don't
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by that. I think you'll see some of that in the near term, but cities...
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and all of the creativity that flows from city.
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that's not going to change.
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I mean, actually, you might have seen there's big news here.
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last week, maybe two weeks ago, Facebook signed a huge new lease in New York City.
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And I think it really speaks to that. It speaks to the future of our cities.
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New York in particular, but I think you'll see this.
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And it's incumbent upon all of us to make sure that everyone has, you know, have a
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You know, it is an understatement. But how to ensure...
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Americans, all kinds of Americans are getting access to the training.
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fast growing field. We've done a lot of work on that issue here in New York.
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There's one program this summer.
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Every year New York City has a huge summer youth employment program. It's called.
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were tens of thousands of...
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youth because their high school students and sometimes a little bit older take part.
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in this training program where they have jobs and organizations and companies all over the city and they
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get paid and many of the families depend on this money during the summer. The program almost got shut down at the beginning of the pandemic.
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with the program and we have recruited about 100 tech companies to be part of it. And this has been really great. And so now these...
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time frame. You know, it's only, I think, three weeks. And they're getting
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getting paid for the work and they're getting it's light.
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But they're getting access to these companies and people who work at these companies.
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And it's really meaningful. And one of the things that is so meaningful about this, I think is...
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So many things that need to be fixed.