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null | Goosebaby | null | Source? I work easily less than 40 hours a week at a programming job in a major tech hub in the US, and am paid very handsomely. Lot of flexibility in my day to day hours too, and vacation time that rivals what Europeans get. | null | 0 | 1491247831 | False | 0 | dfs78rg | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5xxt | null | 1493765437 | 62 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | pdp10 | null | Really? Can you link us to examples of such exams or exam questions?
| null | 0 | 1491247831 | False | 0 | dfs78rt | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3jos | null | 1493765438 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | trpcicm | null | I've heard of similar stories, but I am not in the process of getting my Green Card. | null | 0 | 1491247838 | False | 0 | dfs78ze | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5ucn | null | 1493765441 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | moneymark21 | null | How stable are those jobs though? | null | 0 | 1491247841 | False | 0 | dfs792o | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs70gp | null | 1493765443 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | project2501 | null | Along with the 100% cost of living increase too? (Some amount of sarcasm implied.) | null | 0 | 1491247885 | False | 0 | dfs7ah4 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6ybj | null | 1493765462 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | RiPont | null | > US software developers also work 60 hour weeks, come in on weekends a lot, and have nothing even remotely resembling holidays.
For startups, maybe. I'm a Sr. SE at one of the largest tech companies. I work 40hrs, have 3 weeks vacation or more, and take a comp day during the week if I ever have to work a weekend, which is exceedingly rare.
Pro Tip: Deployments are always scheduled for Tuesday if you want to maintain work/life balance. | null | 0 | 1491247886 | False | 0 | dfs7ahx | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5xxt | null | 1493765462 | 87 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | The problem with those places is that there's usually a small or non existent tech community, so the ability to get another job is harder. | null | 0 | 1491247894 | False | 0 | dfs7aq8 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5to8 | null | 1493765465 | 96 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | DreadedDreadnought | null | At no increase in our salaries I'm sure... | null | 0 | 1491247904 | False | 0 | dfs7b2h | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs69z8 | null | 1493765469 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | rasputine | null | Do we not consider over a thousand employees to be a large company? | null | 0 | 1491247927 | False | 0 | dfs7bs8 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6ufs | null | 1493765479 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | I_am_not_angry | null | > The H1B program is a shell game intended to allow companies
The H1B program has become a shell game allowing companies...
FTFY | null | 0 | 1491247931 | False | 0 | dfs7bwk | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs59ku | null | 1493765481 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | parkerSquare | null | It helps with generic code that increments a variable of the parameterised type. Otherwise you have to write bool specializations. | null | 0 | 1491247936 | False | 0 | dfs7c33 | t3_6350ax | null | null | t1_dfs1c8h | null | 1493765484 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | IgnisDomini | null | > Well first off we have a refugee crisis in America
Lol, no, we've accepted barely any refugees. I'm talking on the scale of millions of people within a single year.
> the economics of scale where an Economy's size increases with population size is veritably false in this day and age.
Again, lol, no. You think China is the world's second largest economy because of it's _highly developed cities, sophisticated infrastructure,_ and _highly trained workers?_
^(All those things I put in italics are sarcastic) | null | 0 | 1491247958 | False | 0 | dfs7csz | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6xep | null | 1493765493 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | FountainsOfFluids | null | I mean no disrespect to the work you put in to get where you are. But the H1B visa program has been abused to undercut local talent for many years now. That's just a simple truth, and it was probably designed to do that.
Consider a hypothetical position that requires a variety of skills. Of course it's true that a business might not be able to find a single local candidate with all required skills, but if they could not find a person with *most* of the required skills, then that simply means it's not a valid job position. Furthermore, there is no reason a business couldn't hire a local person with most of the required skills, then train them on any gaps. Or more likely, hire two people to cover all the needed skills and have them work as a team.
I fully support immigration, as I believe in the free movement of peoples. But the H1B visa program is simply not logical or necessary. It is designed so that large businesses can be cheap and lazy (not the people they hire, the business managers themselves). | null | 0 | 1491247959 | False | 0 | dfs7ctt | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6mr0 | null | 1493765493 | 91 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheRealCabrera | null | Raleigh, NC | null | 0 | 1491247984 | False | 0 | dfs7dmt | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs630j | null | 1493765504 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | SilverCats | null | Software engineer is not a programmer though, even if we write code a lot of times. Engineer usually implies you have more responsibilities. | null | 0 | 1491247990 | False | 0 | dfs7dta | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4zze | null | 1493765506 | 30 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | programmingguy | null | You will have a higher chance of getting hired by an Indian outsourcing firm that can't find Indians to hire as they will now be forced to hire locals (and until recently, by "locals", that meant anyone who was Indian that happened to already be in the US). The wouldn't hire American locals because they can't push them around like they could with Indian folks who are generally subservient because they knew their visa status depended on the employer. Wages might be the same or slightly more if there there is more competition I would guess (55K+ but depends on state too...Cali and NY will definitely be higher).... | null | 0 | 1491248001 | False | 0 | dfs7e84 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6vj9 | null | 1493765511 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | silveryRain | null | >>and designs
>If you're talking strictly UI, that's a designer. If you're talking UX, that is usually the designed + the business analyst.
R u binging Sirius? | null | 0 | 1491248009 | 1491248235 | 0 | dfs7ehe | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3omr | null | 1493765515 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | CrunchyChewie | null | Seems pretty stable to me. | null | 0 | 1491248010 | False | 0 | dfs7ei2 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs792o | null | 1493765515 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | moneymark21 | null | Check out findmyspot if it's still around. I always liked seeing how the suggestions would chang as I've gone through different periods of my life. | null | 0 | 1491248020 | False | 0 | dfs7eum | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs630j | null | 1493765519 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Targren | null | "Same salary." That's cute. | null | 0 | 1491248037 | False | 0 | dfs7fdc | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4vwh | null | 1493765527 | 33 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mmstick | null | Abuse is getting into volumes of student debt and spending a decade studying both before and after college, only to find out that no one will hire you because they would rather hire a foreigner to work all the entry level jobs, and then seeing hiring managers on Reddit and elsewhere complaining about the lack of experience of American workers as their justification for hiring H1B workers exclusively for entry and higher level positions. | null | 0 | 1491248051 | False | 0 | dfs7fsd | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs50hz | null | 1493765533 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | doublehyphen | null | No it is 80k, which would be a really good salary for a programmer in Sweden. | null | 0 | 1491248059 | False | 0 | dfs7g20 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs41vy | null | 1493765536 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dragonnyxx | null | US software developer here. I've been in the industry for over 20 years and have worked for a number of companies you have definitely heard of.
I have never worked conditions like you describe, nor has anyone I work with outside of a few with brief stints as game developers. I work 40 hour weeks, and have three weeks of vacation a year on top of generous holidays.
Obviously there are *some* people working insane hours like that (notably in the game industry and a few highly competitive companies like Amazon), but it's definitely nowhere close to universal. Saying "US software developers work 60 hour weeks" is really no different than saying "Americans get mugged all the time" because you heard muggings are common in NYC. | null | 0 | 1491248077 | False | 0 | dfs7gll | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5xxt | null | 1493765543 | 50 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | YouGottaEarnIt | null | Pittsburgh, PA. | null | 0 | 1491248096 | False | 0 | dfs7h5s | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs630j | null | 1493765550 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | SeniorSavage1 | null | Yes! Relief not gonna my job recked by some Indian VISA holder. America First. | null | 1 | 1491248124 | False | 0 | dfs7i2z | t3_637m7q | null | null | t3_637m7q | null | 1493765563 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | noblehelm | null | It seems useful in a few edge cases.
But if you are assembling something it is better to go with MIT license, since it provides you with attribution on all works and liabilityless-ness(?) on yer work, as in, you cannot be hold liable for any damage, moral or physical, that may be attributed to yer software.
In any case, I may be wrong. | null | 0 | 1491248164 | False | 0 | dfs7je2 | t3_638uun | null | null | t3_638uun | null | 1493765580 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | Svenskunganka | null | Stockholm is the capital of Sweden, and as your parent mentioned, where all tech jobs are. The US counterpart of that would be SF, but could you do that there? | null | 0 | 1491248181 | False | 0 | dfs7jy4 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5i7s | null | 1493765587 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dccorona | null | That seems pretty anecdotal. All the H1-B's I know went to college here and stayed to work afterwards. They don't really have a family back home to send money to, and are more or less entirely integrated into the US instead. I don't think either of these stories is enough to put an estimate on how much income is being spent in the US, but it's certainly true that *some* of it is...and ultimately, the point is that it's a misnomer to say 1 less H1-B is equivalent to 1 more employed American...it could just as easily mean the immigrant just works for the company in a country that will allow them in.
I don't deny that there is tons of room for improvement in the current system, but that doesn't mean I think shutting it down is preferable to sticking with what we have. At least not without convincing data that these jobs 1) could even be filled by US citizens in the first place, and 2) would be without H1-B's, instead of the job just outright not existing in the US at all. And I've yet to see anything close to that. | null | 0 | 1491248191 | False | 0 | dfs7k9y | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs78ab | null | 1493765592 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | I_am_not_angry | null | Nope.
MOST of the ones submitted on Monday were prepared MONTHS ago by professional application filers working for major firms in India. They have been doing this for YEARS. The Friday ones are from people / businesses that do not fully understand the process or the systems, else they would have been in the Monday group. | null | 1 | 1491248197 | False | 0 | dfs7kho | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs69t9 | null | 1493765595 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mmstick | null | I'll have you know that the average wage in the US will leave you living paycheck to paycheck after the cost of rent, food, and other bills, for a full-time job. Most people in their 30s are forced to live with their parents here. | null | 1 | 1491248204 | False | 0 | dfs7kq4 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfrydnj | null | 1493765599 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | nekotripp | null | Charlotte | null | 0 | 1491248225 | False | 0 | dfs7lf6 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs630j | null | 1493765608 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ruiwui | null | This world. I'm entering a new grad position with a higher salary than a lot of more senior positions in Europe. Glassdoor says the average senior SE makes £55,825 (~70k USD) in London, compared to 110k USD for new grads in SF. | null | 0 | 1491248229 | False | 0 | dfs7ljr | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs529m | null | 1493765609 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | _georgesim_ | null | It means get a degree because this is one of the few cases where the piece of paper actually matters. | null | 0 | 1491248238 | False | 0 | dfs7lun | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs2l3y | null | 1493765613 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | __Cyber_Dildonics__ | null | Yeah I saw that the first time. If you have to compile it with '98 compilers why would you do anything that uses more advanced features? | null | 0 | 1491248268 | False | 0 | dfs7msv | t3_6350ax | null | null | t1_dfs218m | null | 1493765625 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | raise-your-what | null | Can do the job, have proven I can do the job for at least 5 years now, won't get the job because I don't have a poxy certificate. Gotcha | null | 0 | 1491248302 | False | 0 | dfs7nxa | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs7lun | null | 1493765641 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | MidnightDemon | null | They grill you with associated questions - job title, roles and responsibilities, what your day to day work is like... and if you start answering with technical knowledge or concepts they don't understand it can be a harrowing procedure, because they start asking you to clarify and clarify and clarify ... My BF at the time (now husband) was questioned for an hour and a half in a backroom and nearly missed his connecting flight when initially coming to the states trying to get a TN for the first time. A half dozen other of my Canadian friends have had similar experiences. It's like a interrogation to be quite honest.
Read the experiences of other Canadians on this thread. | null | 0 | 1491248334 | 1491248619 | 0 | dfs7oxi | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs77gv | null | 1493765654 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | _georgesim_ | null | You are incorrect. Degrees from foreign institutions are also accepted as long as the courses on the transcript are vetted by a professional service as being equivalent to a bachelors degree in the US. | null | 0 | 1491248336 | False | 0 | dfs7p10 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfryjn2 | null | 1493765655 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | silveryRain | null | So... purchasing power? | null | 0 | 1491248358 | False | 0 | dfs7pnb | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3ltx | null | 1493765663 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | Agreed. I can't take anything they say seriously after that. | null | 0 | 1491248370 | False | 0 | dfs7q07 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5j72 | null | 1493765668 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | > As it stands it is not clear to me if I can take your go project and use it as a library in some other go project or if I need to really use it through the YAML syntax.
You need to use the YAML sintax.
If you want a task runner where you can program in Go, you can take a look at [godo](https://github.com/go-godo/godo). I never actually used it, but seems like a "Rake for Go". You just have to compile your script before running it, since Go of course is a static lang. | null | 0 | 1491248372 | False | 0 | dfs7q1x | t3_62zk1i | null | null | t1_dfs2xfa | null | 1493765669 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | johnnyslick | null | Yeah, and a lot of people just plain commute from home nowadays, which makes rural living even more possible (with the huuuuuuuuge caveat that you need a good connection to the Internet - not the easiest thing to come by depending on where in the rural landscape you are). I have a friend who lived in NYC for 2 years while she "worked" in Chicago, as one example... granted that NYC is not exactly anyone's definition of "rural" but the point is, if you can "commute" 1200 miles from one big city to another, you can surely "commute" the same distance from a big city to somewhere out in the middle of BFE. | null | 0 | 1491248392 | False | 0 | dfs7qoz | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5to8 | null | 1493765678 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | You're forgetting the third option, which is that job either goes overseas or doesn't get filled. | null | 0 | 1491248427 | False | 0 | dfs7rri | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6cgu | null | 1493765692 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | johnnyslick | null | Not really, man. I've been doing this for 5 years and can count the number of 60 hour weeks I've had to work on one hand. | null | 0 | 1491248431 | False | 0 | dfs7rw6 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5xxt | null | 1493765693 | 20 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | shevegen | null | Well, you US folks got a fascist government right now.
Good luck in overcoming it. | null | 0 | 1491248454 | False | 0 | dfs7sm7 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t3_637m7q | null | 1493765704 | -19 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | geekgrrl0 | null | Twin Cities, MN. There are a ton of tech jobs here and they pay relatively well (i.e. $125k/yr for front end senior developers (5+ years experience)) and the cost of living here is below the national average. Tons of great colleges, great arts scene, awesome music scene, restaurants, symphony orchestra is one of the best in the country, great for bicycle commuting, good public transportation, really good museums and libraries, I think also the most literate US city (have no sources to back that one up right now). Very active population, lots of running/biking trails, green spaces, lakes. Polite people.
Plus our airport is a Delta hub and has plenty of international flights.
If you have any specific questions about the area, I'll answer as best I can.
Disclaimer: I have lived here less than 1.5 years. | null | 0 | 1491248455 | False | 0 | dfs7snc | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs630j | null | 1493765704 | 27 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | >Well first off we have a refugee crisis in America
This statement is how I know you're full of shit. | null | 0 | 1491248471 | False | 0 | dfs7t5m | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6xep | null | 1493765711 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | tehsquishmeister | null | I don't believe most people would argue against the fact that many of the H1B's "earned" their right to work in the US. I've worked with plenty of talented (and quite frankly non-talented) H1B's here in the bay area, but that's not really the question, and that's also not what the program is for.
The question really is, could those positions have been filled by an equally talented US citizen? I would argue that the vast majority of time, that answer is yes. That's the issue here, not if you're qualified or not. | null | 0 | 1491248509 | False | 0 | dfs7u93 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6mr0 | null | 1493765726 | 63 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | Based on their other comments, I doubt it | null | 0 | 1491248521 | False | 0 | dfs7upp | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5wmp | null | 1493765732 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | That's the cute one. I work with H1B folk. They're making 6 figures as a base starting salary.
We hire them because maybe 1 in 10 interview candidates that I get to see are American. Most Americans I know work in Sales or are artistic types. I don't get why you guys don't seem to want to program but at least H1B's give us a decent amount of people.
[whee - getting downvotes despite having directly relevant experience here] | null | 0 | 1491248538 | 1491248794 | 0 | dfs7v7q | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs7fdc | null | 1493765738 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | didnt_check_source | null | I guess that it depends what your CS major was about? I know that my college had a focus on project management and I haven't had trouble, but I'm merely navigating the process, I don't make any decisions or advise people on it. From what someone else has told here, that seems to be an alright approximation. | null | 0 | 1491248545 | False | 0 | dfs7vey | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs775s | null | 1493765741 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | cruelandusual | null | Knowing "security" requires more technical knowledge than someone in school would have. A lot of best practices won't even make sense until someone actually has to implement a real system, otherwise they'll forget it the same way I don't remember how to do formal proofs. That's why so many top schools don't bother with it - they shouldn't be. Lesser schools teach it because lesser schools always focus on what is sexy to industry rather than teaching fundamental theory. | null | 0 | 1491248546 | False | 0 | dfs7vgt | t3_6344ep | null | null | t3_6344ep | null | 1493765742 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | lukewarmtarsier2 | null | That may be true in cities, but us midwest programmers are doing quite well for a bit less than 6 figures. | null | 0 | 1491248559 | False | 0 | dfs7vvd | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5jo5 | null | 1493765747 | 38 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Unfunny_Twat | null | "Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone"
- Richard Stallman | null | 0 | 1491248575 | False | 0 | dfs7wdd | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfryvib | null | 1493765754 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | No, it's not. Given my past experiences, those that whine about immigration are closet racists. | null | 0 | 1491248580 | False | 0 | dfs7win | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs71np | null | 1493765756 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | tetroxid | null | Personal anecdote.
I work not more than 40 hours by law. I never work on Sundays and public holidays by law. I have four weeks guaranteed holidays by law (six actually). There is no such thing as sick time by law. If my employer wishes to fire me I have three months prior notice by law. I get two years of unemployment insurance by law. On-call readiness is compensated by time or money by law and may never be more than one week per month. Night work must be compensated with 150% salary by law.
You might be able to find a nice employer that offers similiar terms if you're lucky, we get these things guaranteed by the state. Everybody gets them. It raises the quality of life for the whole population immensely. | null | 0 | 1491248585 | False | 0 | dfs7wnk | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs78rg | null | 1493765758 | 51 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | combinatorylogic | null | *Coding* is a *verb*. The process of coding is a lowly job, and it clearly classifies as a blue collar one. | null | 0 | 1491248644 | False | 0 | dfs7ygz | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs70ea | null | 1493765783 | -4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheAesir | null | >US software developers also work 60 hour weeks, and have nothing even remotely resembling holidays.
That depends entirely on the company. | null | 0 | 1491248652 | False | 0 | dfs7yp6 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5xxt | null | 1493765785 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | programmingguy | null | If this is "Facism", then the US will do just fine. | null | 0 | 1491248666 | False | 0 | dfs7z51 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs7sm7 | null | 1493765791 | 20 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | shevegen | null | Called fire.
Hmm.
Talk about naming things being the hardest part in programming again ... | null | 0 | 1491248694 | False | 0 | dfs800x | t3_637fi2 | null | null | t3_637fi2 | null | 1493765803 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | shevegen | null | Does that make any sense? It's still coming from google. | null | 0 | 1491248720 | False | 0 | dfs80u2 | t3_637fi2 | null | null | t1_dfs46ac | null | 1493765814 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | Where I work we offer over 100k to graduates in the first place and 9/10 people through the door need a H1B. We literally hire every decent American who walks through the door and most of our office is still H1B.
There might be spots that offer less but I've never met them. And they're breaking the law so you should report all the ones you know about. | null | 1 | 1491248735 | False | 0 | dfs81ac | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs758c | null | 1493765820 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | No. Ignoring politics in the day to day is how we got stuck with Trump. | null | 0 | 1491248736 | False | 0 | dfs81bv | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfryvib | null | 1493765821 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | goodDayM | null | Interesting. On page 11 of this [2016 Tech Job Salary Report](http://offers.indeed.com/rs/699-SXJ-715/images/Tech%20Salary%20Report%20eBook.pdf) it lists Seattle as the best cost-of-living adjusted place for software engineers.
For my own anecdotal story, I've turned down tech job offers in San Jose because with the cost of housing there I was easily financially better off in other US cities. | null | 0 | 1491248767 | False | 0 | dfs82ad | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6ybj | null | 1493765833 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | pickAside-startAwar | null | Yes. Thus step one. Of many, many more. | null | 0 | 1491248767 | False | 0 | dfs82ap | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6lfb | null | 1493765833 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | combinatorylogic | null | > The analytic ability
Present in the trace quantity of the coders
> and years of training
Which are completely unnecessary for the job, as demonstrated by the success of 2-month bootcamps - which is much less training than any blue collar apprentice gets.
> Are you talking specifically about web developers who don't know any advanced math?
I am talking about the majority of developers of all shapes and walks. | null | 0 | 1491248769 | False | 0 | dfs82du | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6uu9 | null | 1493765834 | -9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491248770 | False | 0 | dfs82f3 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs7yp6 | null | 1493765835 | -5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mmstick | null | No, or just means that you might actually get a job, whereas most graduates remain jobless for many years after. | null | 1 | 1491248782 | False | 0 | dfs82p8 | t3_637seo | null | null | t1_dfs72dn | null | 1493765838 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | You mean that awesome free market system that would just drop your coverage when you needed it the most? | null | 0 | 1491248815 | False | 0 | dfs83sy | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4ns7 | null | 1493765854 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | shevegen | null | I was going to be critical in my comment about the oligarch trump team voted in by less than 25% in the USA (52% would vote, and 3 million more voted for clinton) - BUT:
- In many ways, what Trump does is actually what those 25% have voted for. And in many ways I can understand some of the reasoning, in particular in regards to job/employment/salary (not about abolishing healthcare, for some reason the US voters still do not seem to get why having universal healthcare is a good thing to have). | null | 0 | 1491248838 | False | 0 | dfs84jc | t3_638rgm | null | null | t3_638rgm | null | 1493765863 | -27 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mattymcmatt | null | And salaries are not comparable to the US | null | 0 | 1491248907 | False | 0 | dfs86lj | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6gnh | null | 1493765892 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | slightlyintoout | null | > If my employer wishes to fire me I have three months prior notice by law.
I assume that's without cause? Otherwise... holy shit. What country is this? | null | 0 | 1491248914 | False | 0 | dfs86u6 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs7wnk | null | 1493765895 | 14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | They still get shit for vacation, and still have the pressure to work extra hours. | null | 0 | 1491248927 | False | 0 | dfs877o | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs73mv | null | 1493765900 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | d-nichefan | null | As an international student with F-1 visa studying in CS right now, how will this affected me? I know that currently, one of the biggest option for international students is to go from F-1 to H1B after graduation. | null | 0 | 1491248932 | False | 0 | dfs87dp | t3_637m7q | null | null | t3_637m7q | null | 1493765902 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | sisyphus | null | Because Google owns the code. | null | 0 | 1491248984 | False | 0 | dfs88te | t3_637fi2 | null | null | t1_dfs3e5u | null | 1493765921 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | foonathan | null | It is already proposed, look for "regular void". | null | 0 | 1491248990 | False | 0 | dfs890a | t3_6350ax | null | null | t1_dfs0gfw | null | 1493765924 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Iwishiknewwhatiknew | null | Good riddance. Exactly the type of the outsourced jobs that should be taken away. | null | 0 | 1491249056 | False | 0 | dfs8b0a | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6m4u | null | 1493765950 | 87 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | oh-just-another-guy | null | Do you have any stats for H1B workers going back? As far as I know, the majority of them file for a Green Card and eventually naturalize. | null | 0 | 1491249060 | False | 0 | dfs8b3c | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6p1u | null | 1493765951 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | OneWingedShark | null | > You seem to forget that there are lots of security professionnals that spend a huge time reviewing open source software on their free time.
That's actually **irrelevant** and *proves my point* -- you see, you're doing something other than *just* open-sourcing in order to impact the security.
This is *literally* applying /u/MarshallBanana's statement:
>> Opening up your source is also not a valid security procedure, though. **Having competent people review your code _is_**, but having closed source does not prevent you from doing this, nor does opening your source automatically gain you this.
See?
> I easily spend 2 man days on this per week. This is something that just isn't possible with closed source software.
And that's 2 man-days/week you're spending ***correcting someone else's ill-programmed code***.
> Of course being open-source isn't a panacea but there are objectively more possibilities when the code is open-source. You make the argument that the trade is quality against quantity but that's a false opposition. With open-source you can get both quantity and quality.
I did not -- I said that they're orthogonal, meaning they don't have any common basis -- much like 'speed' and 'correctness'.
> I think the main reason why people feel so strongly against open-sourcing for security is that they saw projects thinking that just open-sourcing is going to miraculously get them thousands of security bug reports and pull requests. But just because it's a fantasy doesn't mean there aren't definitive advantages to being open-source.
That might be so -- though I'm, personally, far less inclined to fear putting my code out here. (I *like* Ada precisely because it is strict and helps produce correct programs.)
> Besides in another post your mention OpenSSL. OpenSSL has bugs. Any software has. But what I see is that even years after its release there are still people giving their time to improve its security. There are still corrections and bug fixes. It is still becomming more secure.
Let me reiterate something I said else-thread:
Security is **not** a process, it is not an add-on, it is a *property*.
As a property it can be modeled, the model can be enforced, and the properties of the model itself proven.
Check out the [Ironsides DNS](http://ironsides.martincarlisle.com/) -- which is fully verified/proven to be free of run-time errors, data-flow errors, exceptions, and remote-code execution.
> Is it the most secure SSL library? I won't take position, there are lots of others. But even if it's not the most secure it is definitely not the fault of open-source which only made things better.
I didn't say open-source made things better, or didn't, or made things worse -- in fact, by stating that security and "open-source" are orthogonal I was asserting [implicitly, albeit] that *they had nothing to do with one another*. (ie They are completely distinct properties.) | null | 0 | 1491249084 | False | 0 | dfs8bwd | t3_6344ep | null | null | t1_dfs6o0o | null | 1493765963 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | rabid_briefcase | null | Looks like a typical government process. | null | 0 | 1491249088 | False | 0 | dfs8c09 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs7505 | null | 1493765963 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | foonathan | null | Nope, you can't use assert in constexpr. | null | 0 | 1491249110 | False | 0 | dfs8cop | t3_6350ax | null | null | t1_dfs7zd1 | null | 1493765973 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | NikkoTheGreeko | null | Ya, no. That's not how it works. This is the type of shit that happens. http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/02/28/on-their-final-day-of-work-ucsf-tech-workers-protest-outsourcing/ | null | 1 | 1491249138 | False | 0 | dfs8dat | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4vwh | null | 1493765982 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | sisyphus | null | > Why is it called Fire?
> When you call Fire, it fires off (executes) your command. | null | 0 | 1491249144 | False | 0 | dfs8dgp | t3_637fi2 | null | null | t1_dfs800x | null | 1493765984 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ep1032 | null | Nothing wrong with that *shrug | null | 1 | 1491249180 | False | 0 | dfs8epz | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs61dd | null | 1493766001 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | tetroxid | null | Of course there are exceptions. If I intentionally and severely and provably damage the business the contract can be terminated immediately.
It's Switzerland. It's nothing unusual though, Germany and France are similiar. France even has a 36 hour week I think.
You people in the USA are getting fucked over, yet you continue to vote for the same bastards that fuck you over. It's really strange. | null | 0 | 1491249182 | False | 0 | dfs8esg | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs86u6 | null | 1493766001 | 31 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mnwhlp | null | I'm pretty sure that no matter how you lean politically you can see that there are over 10 million refugees in America. If you don't agree that's a crisis,then you have no sense. | null | 0 | 1491249205 | False | 0 | dfs8fc9 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs7t5m | null | 1493766009 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | RainbowGoddamnDash | null | > and get the insane valuations that tech companies get here
FINALLY I CAN START MY VC FUNDED POKEMON GO REVIEW WEBSITE APP WITH A 6 BILLION VALUATION | null | 1 | 1491249217 | False | 0 | dfs8foq | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs012v | null | 1493766014 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | davorzdralo | null | AFAIK most devs in US get like 2 weeks vacation, right? And the money isn't actually that much better when you take into account how shit your pension, public schools etc. are. If you want similar lifestyle to most EU countries, you'll need to shell out a lot of cash for stuff that is basically free in EU, aka college for your kids. | null | 0 | 1491249235 | False | 0 | dfs8gb3 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs73mv | null | 1493766022 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | fevieiraleite | null | I'm an international student who graduated with a Bachelor's Degree in Software Engineering. Anyone knows if this affects me or not? I'm currently on my OPT but would apply for a H-1 eventually. | null | 0 | 1491249242 | False | 0 | dfs8giw | t3_637m7q | null | null | t3_637m7q | null | 1493766025 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ep1032 | null | I'm basing it on any one of the studies you can find via google, that show H1Bs on average make significantly less money than their non-H1B peers. While some companies are completely fair in their offerings and stay within the intent of the law, many many companies (large consulting companies are particularly bad about this) use it as a wage suppressant and way to access cheap labor. | null | 0 | 1491249258 | False | 0 | dfs8h21 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6wwm | null | 1493766032 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | panderingPenguin | null | Not compared to the US tech giants, no. Hootsuite is positively tiny compared to Microsoft and Amazon mentioned above (each in excess of 100k employees) | null | 0 | 1491249268 | False | 0 | dfs8he4 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs7bs8 | null | 1493766036 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | BillyrayTrey | null | If you don't mind working as a government contactor, Huntsville AL. Low living expense, tons of defense contacts in the area. | null | 0 | 1491249283 | False | 0 | dfs8hw2 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs630j | null | 1493766043 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491249284 | False | 0 | dfs8hx7 | t3_6350ax | null | null | t1_dfs8cop | null | 1493766044 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | joelmartinez | null | Not every tech job is a spazzy SF startup ;) non-tech-hub jobs tend to be a lot more stable ... that's of course a huge generalization that will certainly have exceptions in both directions, but it's also anecdotally correct. | null | 0 | 1491249308 | False | 0 | dfs8in2 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs792o | null | 1493766054 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | recurrence | null | The poster was referring to tech jobs. HootSuite has < 100 tech positions IIRC. Compare that to a company like Microsoft with > 45,000.
but if you wanted a sales job instead of at tech job then sure HootSuite it up! :) | null | 0 | 1491249344 | False | 0 | dfs8jq3 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs7bs8 | null | 1493766068 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | 08livion | null | So what jobs do you consider white collar that require greater analytic ability?? And no offense to blue collar jobs, but most of my friends are in trade unions and they don't think they can do what I do, whereas I don't see any reason I couldn't learn their skills. Also good luck teaching calc through differential equations, linear algebra, probability and statistics, maybe a bit of physics and electronics so you actually know what the heck a computer is made up of, etc. ALONG with the actual programming in a 2 month boot camp. I'd pay to see that. | null | 0 | 1491249351 | 1491250805 | 0 | dfs8jwj | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs82du | null | 1493766070 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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