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null | pretty_sheep | null | I know several programmers who are currently working with TN status.... | null | 0 | 1491246187 | False | 0 | dfs603s | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs41ts | null | 1493764838 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | IgnisDomini | null | Fine. Xenophobe, then.
And, uh, you didn't say Americans get more jobs. You said "less immigrants" Like immigrants are _inherently bad._ | null | 0 | 1491246188 | False | 0 | dfs604c | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5r7v | null | 1493764838 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | IgnisDomini | null | There are no _reasonable_ reasons to inherently oppose immigration. If someone does for some other reason than the color of their skin, it's a rationalization they concocted for opposing it because of the color of their skin. | null | 0 | 1491246201 | False | 0 | dfs60l2 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5wmp | null | 1493764844 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | t0x0 | null | The H1B I most recently worked with stated his plans were to make all the money he could, then move back to India. This seems like par for the course. | null | 0 | 1491246227 | False | 0 | dfs61dd | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4uq2 | null | 1493764855 | 26 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | saintnicster | null | Quick, balance this Binary tree... | null | 0 | 1491246257 | False | 0 | dfs627c | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs420u | null | 1493764866 | 82 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491246282 | 1493053198 | 0 | dfs630j | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5to8 | null | 1493764876 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | genti_watchman | null | We're arguing macro trend price versus instantaneous spot price. We're both right. | null | 0 | 1491246283 | False | 0 | dfs631t | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs44ix | null | 1493764877 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491246285 | False | 0 | dfs6331 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfrymx5 | null | 1493764877 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491246331 | False | 0 | dfs64c7 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3wb1 | null | 1493764895 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Exallium | null | I'm not, this doesn't apply to me at all. Nothing to see here. | null | 0 | 1491246345 | False | 0 | dfs64v7 | t3_637seo | null | null | t1_dfs5gxm | null | 1493764901 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | lFailedTheTuringTest | null | From a company's perspective they are not. A programmer is usually meant to signify a tech support or similar role rather than an actual developer role which have not been affected by this change. | null | 0 | 1491246356 | False | 0 | dfs657m | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs1ycu | null | 1493764906 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | appmanga | null | How does anyone get qualified for a job asking for 5 years experience? They have to an opportunity, and right now, too many Americans (and I can name one) aren't getting that. This kind of thing makes it sound like everyone who goes to school in the United States is a dope. I've seen lots of H1-Bs have weeks to sit at a desk and "Read the manual and get familiar with the database". Give me those same five weeks and I can do what you want. | null | 0 | 1491246377 | False | 0 | dfs65nr | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3cnx | null | 1493764912 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | CPTAMaverick | null | i feel that | null | 0 | 1491246387 | False | 0 | dfs65xw | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3i6m | null | 1493764915 | 17 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mozvip | null | You must seriously suck at coding then... | null | 0 | 1491246404 | False | 0 | dfs66fh | t3_637seo | null | null | t1_dfs4sxi | null | 1493764923 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | DougFane | null | That's exactly how it is in the US. And effective tax rate means the total tax rate applied over all of your income, so it takes into account amounts taxed at difference rates. What you're referring to is the nominal tax rate. So if I made 100K in the US and 100K in the UK I'd keep an extra 8k/yr | null | 0 | 1491246409 | False | 0 | dfs66no | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs43e2 | null | 1493764926 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Tidher | null | If you have solid health insurance, which works out cheaper than NI for me due to many tech companies having good packages, it's not really a problem.
I'd rather pay a bit more if it meant healthcare was available for all, but that isn't an option here sadly. | null | 0 | 1491246433 | False | 0 | dfs67ed | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5y1p | null | 1493764935 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491246445 | 1493053195 | 0 | dfs67l7 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5wio | null | 1493764938 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | sparr | null | That's how I understand it to work, as well. The wording above suggested that only the first 65k applications would get in. | null | 0 | 1491246479 | False | 0 | dfs68ij | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5t2q | null | 1493764950 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | frankfoda | null | So it's more about conciseness than exceptions? | null | 0 | 1491246493 | False | 0 | dfs68v1 | t3_631p99 | null | null | t1_dfs5dfx | null | 1493764954 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | appmanga | null | How does $110k sound to you? And do you need to give notice? | null | 0 | 1491246494 | False | 0 | dfs68vl | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4msy | null | 1493764954 | 26 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | appmanga | null | How does $110k sound to you? And do you need to give notice? | null | 1 | 1491246507 | False | 0 | dfs698q | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4msy | null | 1493764960 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | sparr | null | But they don't sell out. You have a whole week to submit an application, and applications on Friday are just as likely to get approved as applications on Monday... right? | null | 0 | 1491246528 | False | 0 | dfs69t9 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5x0z | null | 1493764968 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | lomelyo | null | Good for non-US Software Development companies too. Finally we won't lose talent to the US and US companies will hire us more.
Thanks Trump! | null | 1 | 1491246532 | False | 0 | dfs69z8 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfrys40 | null | 1493764970 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | drharris | null | There are already laws around these, but companies easily figure out how to get around them:
1. Who determines what "qualified" means? It's easy to hold interviews with citizens, only to simply disqualify anybody with citizenship, claiming they aren't qualified.
2. You do have to post the job. Where you post it, however, is not specified. I think many of us have seen the "H1B bulletin board" where these jobs are posted, unseen by the general public but technically abiding by the laws. | null | 0 | 1491246544 | False | 0 | dfs6afu | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5jyi | null | 1493764977 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | hondaaccords | null | The problem isn't H1-B workers at blue chip companies like Microsoft, Google, etc. Those companies are paying for the best and brightest talent. The problem is consulting companies like HCL,TCS etc which bring in "talent" from foreign countries (primarily India) to fill contract positions in American companies at below market rate salaries. You can look up the average salary for a H1-B consultant and it is tens of thousands of dollars less than at non-consulting companies. Yet, blue chip companies have to turn away some people due to losing the H1-B lottery to these consultant companies. Furthermore, the consulting companies frequently lie about credentials, and perform immigration fraud (people pay for a H1-B job at a consulting company that doesn't really exist yet) | null | 0 | 1491246595 | False | 0 | dfs6bnh | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3cnx | null | 1493764992 | 18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | nyrol | null | H-1B applications officially close Friday, April 7 this year. | null | 0 | 1491246608 | False | 0 | dfs6bzz | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfrx4t1 | null | 1493764997 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | IgnisDomini | null | Except when people complain about immigration, the examples they give are never white immigrants. _I wonder why..._ | null | 0 | 1491246616 | False | 0 | dfs6c6z | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs67l7 | null | 1493764999 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | lFailedTheTuringTest | null | A few companies do follow this philosophy but most don't. Its simply not sustainable in the current climate. Again this is an example of using blanket statements which simply arent true. | null | 0 | 1491246626 | False | 0 | dfs6cfz | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfrymx5 | null | 1493765004 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mnwhlp | null | Well in the competition for a job in America and it's either an American or an immigrant who get the job, then, in that case, less immigrants would be Americans getting more jobs. It's exactly the same thing. | null | 1 | 1491246627 | False | 0 | dfs6cgu | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs604c | null | 1493765004 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | m_bishop | null | I work for a Big 10 school, in a really nice town with really great schools. The property taxes are high, but general cost of living is very reasonable, and I probably make 2/3 of what I could be making, but my lifestyle would suffer dramatically. | null | 0 | 1491246658 | False | 0 | dfs6d1z | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs54ku | null | 1493765012 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | rabid_briefcase | null | > This is correct, the TN-1 (Canada) and TN-2 (Mexico) are not Visas
The US State Department calls it a visa, and the physical form says "Visa" on it, and the stamp goes under the "Visa" section of the passports.
While Canada might not call it a visa, it looks like a visa to me. | null | 0 | 1491246715 | False | 0 | dfs6ejz | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5cxp | null | 1493765032 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | TheBuzzSaw | null | At a high level, we do data integration. We build bridges from one system to another. It is quite common for us to receive a file format with zero documentation (and possibly a defunct company behind the file format), and it is up to us to decipher and convert it. This means having a strong understanding of data structures is important. Knowing various data structures by name is one thing; spotting those data structures in the wild (as binary blobs, not code) is another. | null | 0 | 1491246736 | False | 0 | dfs6f6x | t3_637qqu | null | null | t1_dfs5fho | null | 1493765041 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | pmrr | null | I've been asked what programming languages I use before now. They don't even need to know the answer to tell if you're faking it. Not sure why I'm being downvoted.. | null | 0 | 1491246747 | False | 0 | dfs6fgi | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs627c | null | 1493765045 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mirhagk | null | > you cannot "add on" security
This gives me nightmares about a project where the original developer thought you could do exactly that. The entire first version of the app was built without any security at all, not even some dummy roles or anything. | null | 0 | 1491246785 | False | 0 | dfs6g52 | t3_6344ep | null | null | t1_dfryf8g | null | 1493765055 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | nionvox | null | Vancouverite here. There are ALWAYS tech jobs hiring here. Bear in mind the cost of living is atrocious though. But many big companies here - I always see Hootsuite, and EA hiring.
EDIT: Forgot Shoes.com went bye bye | null | 0 | 1491246796 | 1491278368 | 0 | dfs6gnh | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3qrc | null | 1493765061 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | granadesnhorseshoes | null | Those companies already had the deck stacked for years.
And what poor Iowa based company do you think is going to suffer exactly? ConAgra? Tyson? Which subsidized corn growers need high quality IT on staff?
I wouldn't turn my nose up at a 50k Job offer in Iowa, 10k less than the minimum salary required for an H1B application. It would give me more spending power than 120K in The Valley.
Explain this in greater detail because frankly its pegging my Bullshit-O-Meter. | null | 0 | 1491246799 | False | 0 | dfs6grv | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfryiyg | null | 1493765063 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | 08livion | null | What are the high paying jobs in those countries? | null | 0 | 1491246804 | False | 0 | dfs6gxs | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfrxd8n | null | 1493765065 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | upalazyriver | null | The H-1B program is being revised in order to make it more closely resemble the vision you're describing. Right now, the bulk of the visas go to relatively cheap junior or mid-level labor from third-world countries, which means these visas are being used to shut fresh US grads out of the market and/or drive their wages down.
Those of us who don't like the current H-1B system want it to be the way you describe.
If you don't believe me that times are hard for fresh grads in the US, go read some of the posts on /r/cscareerquestions. It's like a different world for people who don't have a few years' experience. | null | 0 | 1491246880 | False | 0 | dfs6ik7 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3cnx | null | 1493765087 | 30 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | Horse shit. The effect of IT costs on food production is minimal.
Your line of argument, that some employers are entitled to cheaper labor, has been thoroughly rejected. Come up with something else. | null | 0 | 1491246953 | False | 0 | dfs6kas | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5qp5 | null | 1493765109 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | appmanga | null | Similar to the old Andersen Consulting way of recruiting. "You have a degree in Home Economics with a minor in Basket Weaving? No problem. We'll train you for six weeks, and you'll be a programmer". | null | 0 | 1491246987 | False | 0 | dfs6lcd | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5bmm | null | 1493765124 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mnwhlp | null | You're right and my whole point is that there are Americans who are qualified for these jobs and companies are just using these visas to push down salaries. | null | 0 | 1491246987 | False | 0 | dfs6lcl | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6afu | null | 1493765124 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | oscarboom | null | >Good. Step one President Trump. Thank you and keep fighting for me and others who know that h1b is nothing more than giving away our ability to earn an income.
It is a good first step. But he needs to go a lot farther in protecting American jobs. The guidelines are too ambiguous and the fees and minimum salaries need to be _drastically_ increased.
edit: Found out this is just a sham. Trump hasn't done anything about the H1-B visa problem despite his campaign rhetoric about putting American jobs first. The whole program needs to go.
https://www.wired.com/2017/04/trumps-empty-crackdown-overseas-coders-doesnt-fix-tech-visas/
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null | lFailedTheTuringTest | null | Additionally, recently TCS/Wipro/Infosys have all started using the 1 year to 18 month of intern format instead of the simple 3 month summer internships. They train their interns and only then consider them for FT positions. There are several assistant positions that pay abysmally, but these people are not doing offsite management of US based clients. People here are way inflating the kind of people that are allowed to immigrate. I would argue that more US companies can be viewed as H1B abusers (not the prestigious ones, of course) that quickly hire 3 "engineers" with the pay of 1 and then exploit them for hours. Everyone here has such an outdated view of how the job market currently looks like. Ten years ago this was all true, it's not even close to that now. | null | 0 | 1491247016 | False | 0 | dfs6m3r | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5bmm | null | 1493765134 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | PogingPinoy | null | REKT - Accenture and Tata Consultancy source of revenue | null | 0 | 1491247017 | 1491259110 | 0 | dfs6m4u | t3_637m7q | null | null | t3_637m7q | null | 1493765134 | 106 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kl0nos | null | GCC is keeping it. | null | 0 | 1491247021 | False | 0 | dfs6m8r | t3_6350ax | null | null | t1_dfrnsfb | null | 1493765136 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | CodeReclaimers | null | The only place I know of personally is Athens, GA. One problem you may have with finding jobs in these places is that there aren't many open positions, and the skills they're looking for might be really narrow. For example, nearly all the jobs I've seen or heard about here are web development. (Disclaimer: I'm not tied into the community here very tightly because I do consulting work for companies in nearby states.)
My guess is that many small university towns with a good CS program will probably have some local businesses. Finding them will probably take a bit more effort than in the big tech hubs, though. | null | 0 | 1491247030 | False | 0 | dfs6mhw | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs630j | null | 1493765139 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ArmandoWall | null | I'm sorry, but I must disagree. I know that gaming the H1B program is a big issue. But saying that it's _only_ intended to bring cheaper labor to the U.S. is insulting to the thousands of foreign workers who cleanly and rightfully earned their H1B visa spot. ~~I am~~ edit: I _used to be_ one of them, and let me tell you: it was _hard_. Years of preparation, years of school, months of applications and interviews, just like any U.S. citizen.
On top of that, I had to learn a new language, leave my family and friends behind (yes, yes, by choice, but it was not an easy one), learn a new culture, cultivate new relationships, and face the occasional discrimination. You are _damn_ right I'm going to demand a competitive salary and competitive working conditions. I did and here I am, contributing back to the American economy. Not all of us are "cheaper labor." | null | 0 | 1491247038 | 1491265072 | 0 | dfs6mr0 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs59ku | null | 1493765144 | 102 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | genti_watchman | null | You told me! | null | 0 | 1491247039 | False | 0 | dfs6mrc | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6kas | null | 1493765144 | -4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | MidnightDemon | null | Heard this story myself. It does happen. The new hiring company should have filed for an H1B initially. | null | 0 | 1491247056 | 1491247248 | 0 | dfs6n55 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5ucn | null | 1493765149 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | cym13 | null | You seem to forget that there are lots of security professionnals that spend a huge time reviewing open source software on their free time. I easily spend 2 man days on this per week. This is something that just isn't possible with closed source software. And it is also important to review projects that don't necessarily have the money to pay a professionnal review. There's also the fact that when I'm auditing a customer's work I often stumble on open source libraries or software and take some time to review them (as any obvious vulnerability would also impact my customer). This is also something that is not possible with closed-source software, I can only work in black box and that's not to the library's benefit.
Of course being open-source isn't a panacea but there are objectively more possibilities when the code is open-source. You make the argument that the trade is quality against quantity but that's a false opposition. With open-source you can get both quantity and quality.
I think the main reason why people feel so strongly against open-sourcing for security is that they saw projects thinking that just open-sourcing is going to miraculously get them thousands of security bug reports and pull requests. But just because it's a fantasy doesn't mean there aren't definitive advantages to being open-source.
Besides in another post your mention OpenSSL. OpenSSL has bugs. Any software has. But what I see is that even years after its release there are still people giving their time to improve its security. There are still corrections and bug fixes. It is still becomming more secure.
Is it the most secure SSL library? I won't take position, there are lots of others. But even if it's not the most secure it is definitely not the fault of open-source which only made things better. | null | 0 | 1491247089 | False | 0 | dfs6o0o | t3_6344ep | null | null | t1_dfrvzr7 | null | 1493765161 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | MidnightDemon | null | https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/637m7q/computer_programmers_may_no_longer_be_eligible/dfs5x9u/ | null | 0 | 1491247103 | False | 0 | dfs6oeh | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs603s | null | 1493765166 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | IgnisDomini | null | That's not how any of this works. Did you fail economics in College? Available jobs in an economy are proportionate to the size of the economy. Economy size increases with population size absent odd circumstances (like refugee crises). Yes, immigrants take jobs, but they also _make more._ | null | 0 | 1491247122 | False | 0 | dfs6owj | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6cgu | null | 1493765172 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | oscarboom | null | What is actually happening is that the H1-B system is gutting a strategic industry. | null | 0 | 1491247125 | False | 0 | dfs6p07 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4m6t | null | 1493765173 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491247127 | False | 0 | dfs6p1u | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3cnx | null | 1493765174 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | appmanga | null | You don't consider UoP real school, like the kind where have to read books, write papers, and take exams and stuff? | null | 0 | 1491247162 | False | 0 | dfs6q50 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfrxqip | null | 1493765189 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | metamatic | null | Ditto. ML is easily the language I've hated most out of the dozens I've written code in. | null | 0 | 1491247183 | False | 0 | dfs6qkg | t3_62zx67 | null | null | t1_dfqsc1s | null | 1493765195 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | oldneckbeard | null | there's a quota on the number of h1-b visas, and big companies have piles of paperwork ready for "opening day" -- so much so that the quota is filled on day 1. | null | 0 | 1491247203 | False | 0 | dfs6r0j | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5jgf | null | 1493765201 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | bubar_babbler | null | Thanks for the info! I was many trying to get at the fact that basically no people in the US who call themselves "software engineers" are actually professional engineers. | null | 0 | 1491247236 | False | 0 | dfs6ryr | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs1qzu | null | 1493765214 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491247249 | False | 0 | dfs6scg | t3_637m7q | null | null | t3_637m7q | null | 1493765219 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | oldneckbeard | null | and we all put up with it because we're too afraid of ousting the baby boomers. | null | 0 | 1491247269 | False | 0 | dfs6sx6 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3i6m | null | 1493765226 | 37 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | davorzdralo | null | While that is true, devs in Europe work at max 40 hours per week, and have like 2 months of paid vacation. I could have a much higher salary in US, but there is no way in hell I'd move there to work 60+ hours. I simply don't need that extra money, I need fucking time to spend what I already make. | null | 0 | 1491247303 | False | 0 | dfs6tqs | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5zp1 | null | 1493765238 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | progfu | null | Also note there's *just knowing it exists/is a thing*. Graphs are a great example of this, since a lot of people will say things like "you know, those circles connected by arrows with numbers in them, kinda like a network" instead of saying "directed graph". | null | 0 | 1491247327 | False | 0 | dfs6ubn | t3_62xwba | null | null | t1_dfqzhqs | null | 1493765245 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | appmanga | null | No, I don't coding. I suck at being something I'm physically not. | null | 0 | 1491247329 | False | 0 | dfs6udw | t3_637seo | null | null | t1_dfs66fh | null | 1493765246 | -14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | recurrence | null | Shoes went bankrupt, hootsuite is not a big company. EA Vancouver is a large studio though | null | 0 | 1491247331 | False | 0 | dfs6ufs | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6gnh | null | 1493765247 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | lFailedTheTuringTest | null | It may increase opportunities for US based entry level graduates but it wont neccesarily increase salaries. The companies can still pay lower salaries at entry position even to US candidates if the candidates are as desperate as you make them out to be. What is long past overdue is a cogent reform and not this subterfuge. | null | 0 | 1491247334 | False | 0 | dfs6uiq | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5wjd | null | 1493765248 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | 08livion | null | I'm a recent EE grad student transitioning to data science/machine learning currently and am wondering how coding could be considered somehow blue collar, or "lesser" than, say, a traditional white color finance gig? The analytic ability and years of training in my opinion is significantly greater for the former. Are you talking specifically about web developers who don't know any advanced math? | null | 0 | 1491247346 | False | 0 | dfs6uu9 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs2fkn | null | 1493765252 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | nyrol | null | H-1B application does not show intention to immigrate. All steps up to filing an I-485 of the green card process also does not show intent to immigrate. It's once you file that final step, then that shows intent, and you will denied any non-immigrant visa. Going from TN1 to H-1B is valid. | null | 0 | 1491247347 | False | 0 | dfs6uvk | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5ucn | null | 1493765253 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | themagicvape | null | Does this mean when I finish getting my CS degree I'll get paid more? | null | 1 | 1491247368 | False | 0 | dfs6vj9 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t3_637m7q | null | 1493765261 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | arturaz | null | We build games with unity and c# and I have written an implementation of rx for it. I am wondering how frp differs from rx there. I guess I need to read up on frp. | null | 0 | 1491247389 | False | 0 | dfs6w5y | t3_62yl50 | null | null | t1_dfrfvq8 | null | 1493765269 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | programmingguy | null | phew! glad I made it in before this happened. I really don't think I do anything exceptional... definitely not in the league of "the best and brightest"... was actually a borderline case in school. Anyone who enjoys programming can do the same thing I do. Everyone, especially the folks from India who come on H1-bs and the folks that bring them here know that H1-b visas have been totally gamed by outsourcing firms and they use it for moving jobs offshore and filling in positions through lower wages that otherwise could have been done by entry level or mid level American programmers. Good move by USCIS but this was long overdue and pretty much a no brainer. | null | 1 | 1491247401 | 1491247734 | 0 | dfs6wj4 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t3_637m7q | null | 1493765274 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | cdsmith | null | I'm not saying your overall assessment is wrong. (It is wrong in my experience, but there are many corners of the U.S. tech industry.) But it would be remarkably stupid to measure anyone's software development job output by how they spend their first five weeks. You're looking for the person who is going to be a keystone of your organization in their fifth year or so... the correlation between that and code written in the first few weeks is very low. | null | 0 | 1491247408 | False | 0 | dfs6wpj | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs65nr | null | 1493765277 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | oldneckbeard | null | and what experience do you have of this, exactly? I work in this field and work with H1-Bs nearly every day.
I have a feeling the companies bringing in low-wage workers are the exception, not the rule. Most H1-B are making quite a lot of money, and hiring an H1-B is no cheaper for the company doing the hiring if it's through a consulting firm. | null | 1 | 1491247416 | False | 0 | dfs6wwm | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4uq2 | null | 1493765280 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | metamatic | null | Everyone finds CSS frustrating for laying out pages.
Everyone finds LaTeX frustrating for laying out pages.
Is it that we don't understand the problem, or is it that we keep failing to implement the right solution? | null | 0 | 1491247434 | False | 0 | dfs6x6h | t3_636h8t | null | null | t3_636h8t | null | 1493765283 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mnwhlp | null | Well first off we have a refugee crisis in America and secondly the economics of scale where an Economy's size increases with population size is veritably false in this day and age. | null | 0 | 1491247444 | False | 0 | dfs6xep | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6owj | null | 1493765286 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | CalBearFan | null | To clarify, I should have said 'utilitarian' value. The first barrel of oil pulled has no more or less utility than the last barrel pulled.
However, two different programmers can vary widely in utility value.
And exponentially? Exponential would imply that the nth barrel is at least $10,000 if the n-1 barrel is $100. Maybe the nth barrel is worth a few pennies more but exponential, not even close... | null | 0 | 1491247453 | False | 0 | dfs6xoo | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5zv2 | null | 1493765290 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | bubar_babbler | null | You'd likely get another bump moving to the bay (not that I recommend it). I worked in the Seattle office and a transfer to the SF office came with an automatic 40% salary increase. | null | 0 | 1491247477 | False | 0 | dfs6ybj | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs3y2t | null | 1493765298 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | trentv4 | null | Often, it's not the same salary - it's significantly lower. If H1Bs were used for specialized skills only, yeah, sure that's fine. Lower tier labor? No, that's absolutely not good. | null | 0 | 1491247526 | False | 0 | dfs6zua | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4vwh | null | 1493765318 | 35 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Sciguystfm | null | You've misunderstood me. Software engineering is a profession, not a white collar or a blue-collar job | null | 0 | 1491247559 | False | 0 | dfs70ea | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4x1c | null | 1493765326 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | appmanga | null | So you're saying they decipher things like this:
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null | CrunchyChewie | null | Or telecommute to a job in a tech hub and live in one of these areas. | null | 0 | 1491247562 | False | 0 | dfs70gp | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5to8 | null | 1493765327 | 20 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | snerp | null | Pretty stupid article. Go is clearly the superior choice. Python performed the worst in all tests and you still picked it. Makes no sense. If all you cared about was making it easy to hire junior devs for your project, why even bother doing the benchmarks and writing the article? | null | 0 | 1491247585 | False | 0 | dfs719r | t3_637pjn | null | null | t3_637pjn | null | 1493765337 | -6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491247598 | False | 0 | dfs71np | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6c6z | null | 1493765342 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | nthcxd | null | You're absolutely right. If anything I've heard Google scaling back on H1B applicants simply because the success rate is down to ~30%. I think after graduation, foreign-born students entering workforce have three years to secure a visa and that gives them 3 tries, which is like 70% success rate at the end, regardless of his/her qualifications.
Numbers don't lie. http://www.myvisajobs.com/Reports/2016-H1B-Visa-Sponsor.aspx | null | 0 | 1491247613 | False | 0 | dfs722l | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfry385 | null | 1493765348 | 250 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | themagicvape | null | Does this mean when I finish getting my CS degree I'll get paid more?
| null | 0 | 1491247623 | False | 0 | dfs72dn | t3_637seo | null | null | t3_637seo | null | 1493765352 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | calvin_peeing | null | Yea, there are sweatshops but that's a huge generalization. Most people work pretty normal weeks and still get higher salaries than in the EU. Or in the case of Apple, work 60 hour weeks but get overtime on the extra. | null | 0 | 1491247665 | False | 0 | dfs73mv | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6tqs | null | 1493765369 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s0m3f00l | null | http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/from-the-archives-the-early-days-of-h-1b-abuse
They knew about the problems from the beginning. The above report is from 1993.
edit: welcome to america. | null | 0 | 1491247668 | False | 0 | dfs73q2 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs08jq | null | 1493765370 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | inhumantsar | null | I was rejected for a computer analyst doing sysadmin/devops work. Was told that programmers were also specifically not allowed to use computer analyst either. However, I know someone who went south on a TN and called himself an engineer for the application. Ive also heard that it's really up to the individual reviewing the application and that they're known for being totally arbitrary. Lots of luck of the draw involved. | null | 0 | 1491247671 | False | 0 | dfs73s6 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs52xc | null | 1493765371 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | nyrol | null | Visas are specifically to be allowed into the country, and a status is what allows you to stay in the country. Canadians do not require a visa to enter the US, but they do require a status to stay in the US, or to work in the US. While visiting the US, a Canadian citizen is typically in on a B2 status which permits them to remain in the US for about 6 months total over a duration of 12 months, with no employment. No visa is required. H-1B is also a status given to Canadians who wish to be employed, and allows for the application of a green card, as it is a dual-intent status. No visa required. The US does require visas from other countries for entry. You can apply for single or multiple entry visas over a time period, and can expire at a different time than your status. If your visa runs out, you are allowed to remain in the country if your status is still valid, but if you leave, you need to apply for another visa. | null | 0 | 1491247711 | False | 0 | dfs7505 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6ejz | null | 1493765387 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | cowpace | null | >the same salary
I don't think you understand how this works
They fire the dude who gets paid 100k a year and replace him with an h1b who they pay 60k to do the same job | null | 0 | 1491247718 | False | 0 | dfs758c | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs4vwh | null | 1493765390 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | FaticusRaticus | null | He likely has company provided insurance. If you have good insurance in US it is better than Europe. I can go see a neuro surgeon on a whim within 1 day of making an appt.
I agree everyone should provided health care though. | null | 0 | 1491247727 | False | 0 | dfs75io | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5y1p | null | 1493765393 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | metamatic | null | Apple's another example. If you want to work on anything engineering-related at Apple, you'll be expected to move to San Francisco.
Google briefly had an engineering office in Austin, Texas, but once it was staffed they closed it down and told all the engineers to relocate to Mountain View. | null | 0 | 1491247729 | False | 0 | dfs75kr | t3_62zrgk | null | null | t1_dfrxdju | null | 1493765394 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | appmanga | null | What I'm saying is that if he can have five weeks, and they know they're going to give him that when they bring him on, why can't I? | null | 0 | 1491247730 | False | 0 | dfs75mh | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6wpj | null | 1493765395 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | s73v3r | null | Maybe next time come up with something better than entitled business owners. | null | 0 | 1491247743 | False | 0 | dfs7600 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6mrc | null | 1493765401 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | moneymark21 | null | Sounds similar to my situation. High property and income taxes hurt, but overall cost of living is low. Excellent schools and medical facilities. I'm easily making 60-70% of what I could make, but I have a great deal of time for my family, which is invaluable. | null | 0 | 1491247756 | False | 0 | dfs76e6 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs6d1z | null | 1493765406 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | SilverCats | null | Yes computer analyst can be a work around. But as an analyst you are supposed to be analyzing and not writing code. Sometimes when trying to get in as an analyst they will ask of you will be writing code. If you say yes they might deny entry. | null | 0 | 1491247770 | False | 0 | dfs76uh | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs52xc | null | 1493765412 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | pdp10 | null | There is no Professional Engineer certification or body for software engineering. It's a false equivalency.
| null | 0 | 1491247774 | False | 0 | dfs76z1 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs0dci | null | 1493765413 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | IgnisDomini | null | >people can be anti immigration without being racist.
Yeah, I guess you can just be uneducated.
>I am open to actual research on the effects both domestically and globally.
Then you should be glad to hear that all the research states it's unambiguously positive. | null | 1 | 1491247780 | False | 0 | dfs7754 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs71np | null | 1493765415 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | bothanspy1337 | null | > If you lived in a waterfall world, you can think of the programmer as the code monkey, and the engineer as the guy who talks to people, collects requirements, creates the architecture and designs, etc.
So it's essentially the difference between the computer science major and the person who did a coding boot camp, correct? | null | 0 | 1491247781 | False | 0 | dfs775s | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs2wnu | null | 1493765416 | 27 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | nthcxd | null | How do immigration services determine who is software engineer and who is just a "programmer" if TN status only apply to that pretty narrow definition? | null | 0 | 1491247791 | False | 0 | dfs77gv | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs5x9u | null | 1493765420 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | cdsmith | null | Yes, that very much IS what is happening right now. The tech industry in the U.S. relies on the ability to hire qualified developers from around the world, and plenty of these qualified developers are working here at nice salaries and benefits and boosting the economy.
At the same time, there are clearly abuses of the program. But don't fool yourself into thinking that's all there is. When Facebook or Google hires an H1B employee, they are not doing it to save money versus an American. They are already hiring all the best U.S. developers they can get their hands on, and *also* hiring internationally. | null | 0 | 1491247797 | 1491258308 | 0 | dfs77od | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfs57a4 | null | 1493765422 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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