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... range of critical legal theorists, et cetera. have you-
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... as a way to go beyond a term known as relativism, right? so, to go beyond-
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... relativism, but to think about the ways that systems co-exist and compete.
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these systems co-exist in relations of power. they-
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... each other. so the rise of islamic sharia in northern nigeria alongside the emergence of-
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so, really, the attempt is to go beyond simply this comparative frame and to think about the power relations that sometimes imbalances-
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what methodology did you use in your-
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... background in political science, and the methods that i use in the-
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i mean, in your most orthodox way, doing interviews-
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... at the bar, drinking, having a few drinks to hear, to debrief on what the latest controversy was at a given meeting.
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it also involved-
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... working with ngos in various parts of sub-saharan africa.
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but, also, participation and engaged-
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... political mobilization related work. and that is often seen as a less-
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... [inaudible 00:08:28] involves quite messy methodology. so, those are the highlights of the work.okay. something just dawned on me when you said-
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... you would go to the courtroom and then afterwards go to the bar-
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... or is it in one location?right. well, the court, the bill-
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... that the court was really an-
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... the un, so every couple of months or every four months or so, diplomats from around the world would converge to work on this document that then became-
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... the international criminal court that became the constitution that was fundamentally the constitution of the court. it was an idea that became a building, but-
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... around the world, really. but, yes, in a straightforward way, it is a building-
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... who visit and watch the cases. it is-
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it is a building that's housed in the hague.okay.
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there are a number. the conclusions are two-pronged in some ways, because i'm writing to multiple audiences in this book, and it's quite the challenge. on one hand, i'm-
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... writing for anthropologists. i'm engaging-
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... notions of legal pluralism. i'm thinking about-
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... about the fictions of this notion that we know as justice and trying to shift the debate in a way to push us to think about emergent movements and [inaudible 00:09:57]-
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... in these other domains, these other locales.
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and this is all part of a conversation and an ongoing one that i have and i'm having with them.
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and an important one. it's certainly a conversation that needs to be had.
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yeah, the most surprising.
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one person's justice is another person's retribution. one person's justice a-
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... had a sense that there was more in common than not.
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and after almost eight, nine years of research in this-
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... what justice is. so, that's probably the most surprising.
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\macmillan report. be sure to join us again for another episode of the macmillan report-
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... made possible through funding from the whitney and betty macmillan center for international and area studies at yale.
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hear about her forthcoming book on the persian rug bazaar. welcome professor erami.thank you, marilyn, for having me.
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let's begin with an overview of your-
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my dissertation primarily where i spent two continuous years doing-
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how did you come-
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... to write the book?well, i was-
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... young, but i was still living in iran-
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... at that time. and so reading about it as an undergraduate, i would hear about-
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... and again, simultaneously i would read about the holy city of qom as this sort of opaque place, a mysterious-
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... was about seven years old and had moved to the united arab emirates. and i was living in dubai where i-
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... would feel a hint of that living in dubai, but it was-
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... the iranians who felt that they were pushed out of the country because of the clerics in charge. and the holy city of qom is iran's-
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... arguably most religious city. it is known as a seminary city. so, all the clerics who took power-
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... at one point have studied in qom or know each other from qom or hold offices in qom or actually live in qom, and-
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... leave the country in exile. and-
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the people in the city of home were known to be active in making the revolution.
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... my father is from there, his family's from there and they continued to live there.
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i thought of it as, i had wonderful childhood memories of-
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... since the ninth century. so, i grew up thinking of it as a-
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even though now it is obligatory for women to wear the hijab and be covered
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... in the city of qom even before the revolution where this law did not exist, you-
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well, i had the-
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... to not one to let people know about their business. so-
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... books, that was one of the resources that i tapped into. so, i would start with my own family. and then i had-
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... folks in my own family introduced me to other folks in the bazaar.
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and then i had access to something that was not-
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... to bazaars. in tara, i would be able to go into someone's store and start to interview them. but i wasn't-
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... always able to get an invite into their family's home-
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... to do that. and after spending a long time in the bazaar, and of course-
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... people remembered me being-
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so, it allowed me to inter-
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... entity that was really created after the revolution for members of the bazaar to be able to deal with their problem-
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... which is basically a guild like institution. and so there is a [inaudible 00:03:57] for almost every-
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... vocation and the bazaar in every city-
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... recorder was. so, my presence as a female, as an outsider-
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... tape recorder was, so i was able to get a very good-
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... ethnographic feel for what was going on from the bazaar and then into their family-
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... homes.how many families?
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well, let's put-
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... based on religious tithing, would give certain amount of money to clerics. and there were always these ti-
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so, i realized that when historians would refer to bazaaries, there were all sorts of levels of bazaaries. there were the very wealthy bazaaries. there were sort of medium level-
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they were located differently in the actual bazaar, which is-
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... now even where you're looking in the mall really says-
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... about the kind of consumer that comes in. and so it dictates-
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... and so i became sort of fascinated with-
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... and so part of what i was doing was doing ethnographic field work as just a sort of spending time in the bazaar with them and moving from place-
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so, i would look at the carpets also as a kind of document, as a kind of-
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primarily most of the rugs that are made-
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... in the city of qom, maybe more than 90%-
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... of it are for export.okay. and that brings me to a term you use, the colonization of taste.
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colonization of taste is a term i use in-
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... later on some german, but mostly french and english-
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... travelers were fascinated by carpet merchants and already by the 19th century they thought that-
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... the originality had basically-
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... the quality of carpets and the designs.why is that?
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... were the movement of the-
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there was a movement also to kind of control
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... the early 20th century you begin to see american-
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... companies moving into iran and-
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... carpets. there are works done on carpets and mostly sort of in terms of aesthetics-
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... [inaudible 00:06:29], but also look at-
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... the merchants who produce it. so, i look at production-
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... and consumption as opposed to one or the other. and i also look at the relationship between the merchants, the weavers and the family.
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so, all those things haven't been done together. and the other element is that carpets are [inaudible 00:06:51] to-
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