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despite the fact that she's a very successful major donor fundraiser.
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she now also runs her own business where she helps charities all over the world with major donor fundraising.
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but she wasn't well known. she didn't have a big name and she's a black woman.
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so the first time she ever was able to speak at the convention, the first time her proposal was accepted was when she said she'd speak about diversity.
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despite the fact that at the time she knew nothing about diversity.
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okay. in your small charity work, you've met activists, haven't you?mm-hmm (affirmative).what sort of activists impress you?
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presumably you've got a long list of people you've come in to interview in the podcast.
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i guess, parts of the reason it was such a privilege to work with small charities.
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the charity sector is actually pretty big, isn't it?yeah.
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yeah. so depending on which statistics you use it's about 190,000 charities in this country.
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yeah. as you say, that's another subject as it were interesting and maybe you'll do a podcast around that at some point.yeah.
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okay. so future plans.
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absolutely. and my job will be to listen and to do as much as i can to raise their voice. not to talk as much as i have done today.
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oh good then. it's had a nice, quite chilled out day today, which is good.
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thank you so much for giving me your time. i know you are an incredibly talented and therefore very busy woman.
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so i'm really grateful to you for taking the time to talk to me. thank you.
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of course. so currently i'm the founder of inspiring women-
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... changemakers, which is a women-led movement. so not women-exclusive movement.
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the background to setting up inspiring women-
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... changemakers came about through a change.org petition that i led in 2014.
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it was on behalf of an asylum seeker who i befriended, who was seeking asylum on the grounds of the risk of female genital mutilation on her two daughters.
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i ended up leading the legal campaign, bringing together a top team of five lawyers.
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one a qc based in australia.
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... european human rights lawyer in brussels and three uk-based legal professionals to help build the case.
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and yet it still looked like the home office wanted to deport-
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... the family, despite all of our interventions and the submissions that we've put forward on her behalf.
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so i decided i wasn't going to let her go without letting her know how much she was valued. so i set up a change.org petition thinking it would generate...
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everyone had rallied around and we raised over 13,000 pounds, which helped to house the family for a year.
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to keep them safe because it was at the time of boko haram in nigeria where they were...
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deported to and then the rest was dispersed to charities over here. so it was an incredible experience.
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it was very sad at the end, but when i took the time to reflect and think about what...
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and most of those key people are still in my life now, nearly five years on, and i knew that there were...
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...some advantages i have that others in my position might not...
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i was already trained in media handling. i already had done laws.
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i've also done a lot networking over the years, having been based in a chamber of commerce, so...
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platform, but not only a platform and the ability for people to get together and find the help and resources and expertise that they need.which...
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yeah, that's lovely. so the movement is now starting to support each other and itself and...
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there is so much research out there that shows the more diverse your workforce is, the more profitable your business will be.
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yeah. but you can hit people on the head with that research and unless they decide to make that change, it's not going to happen is it?
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i haven't done one but actually i should. shouldn't i? that's a great idea.yeah, link directly...
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to your site and say, "if you want i would like to do more to feature you." do it because then i can use your expertise.
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yeah. and i think that's it how to put together...
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what a media kit should handle. that wouldn't take me long as a cheat sheet at all.
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i mean for me i just use canva.
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it's a great free app. they've got lots of templates.
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you type in "media kit" and so many pop-up.
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i just tailored my own to my own pantone colors and people are...
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welcome to look at mine as well and use that full inspiration because it's super simple.
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a few words about yourself really in the subject matter.
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and it's got a double benefit in that it saves a lot of time as well because you're not having to type something every time you can just say, "okay, well..."
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"here's my media kit. let me know if you need anything else."
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gosh, that's so interesting which people would just never know.
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and likewise, so that the audience can't see you but for example you've got a headset on with a microphone near your mouth...
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dangly necklace and you're nervous. if you're a nervous speaker what...
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do you do for comfort? you hold your hair or you hold your necklace.
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i bet this all that i've heard it. i've even had it sent with me present which is just mind blowing.
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but the other woman with me was of indian heritage so now recognizing that he was without meaning to insulting her.yeah.
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and that's it because how would she have felt internally, you might never know but...
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yeah, and how about skin color? how often are you amongst a sea of white faces?
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oh, still very often. i'm one of the few or the only non-white person there.
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yeah. i love it. i love you.
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and also it's good for business. why would i not want to be on the speaker database?
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that's really helpful. thank you. so one of the other things, so you know you're a good speaker, yes?yeah...
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some people pay me for it and they keep booking me so i'd hope so.yeah...
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great. so if conference organizers are listening to this, what topic should they be contacting you about if they want you to speak?
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i'm based in leeds but i travel i've done work all over. i even did two days in paris last year.
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oh wow, and where can people find you if they want to get in touch?
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i'll put something in the show notes as well, so that people can see.excellent, thank you.and if you've listened to this podcast before you will know i ask absolutely everyone, "do you drink tea? and if so, how do you like it?"
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i will have to try that sounds so yummy. great. well, thank you for answering that really important question. is there anything else you'd like to share with the listeners today?
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great. and thanks once again for your time, i really appreciate it.
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i'm grateful for you in general i'm grateful to you for speaking to me today.
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my complaint was not bad because i was admitting it on behalf of someone anonymously. and they said, "unless that person comes forward..."
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"we can't take it any further.". and at the time i think i just accepted that that's the way the system works.
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i've since heard that story from multiple different organizations, from multiple different roles, unless the person who's been harassed, abused, assaulted...
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they're not recognizing that their system is allowing individuals to carry on abusing, harassing assaulting women...
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within their workplaces or at their events.
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they don't recognize that their systems are broken.
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signed by women who have really painful lived experience.
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and that's so important. so i don't know if you know anything about my history. i had to resign from my job because i wasn't allowed to talk about diversity in public any-
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.-more.disgusting is the only word that have for it. i have to say, i don't know the detail, but i don't need to know the detail it just...
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this is the time to build a movement so it's interesting that you're thinking of going small in terms of your panel or whatever.
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to have your army all lined up and ready to go for the point when you say, "march."exactly.
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enough support around you emotionally.
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i'm never going to fully appreciate the experiences of others and we are never going to put the right systems and processes in place to properly care for and support others.
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it always.
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always comes back to, you've got an all white all male [crosstalk 00:07:17] of course this shit is still happening.
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well done for you for pushing it a little bit further along.thanks.
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yeah, i'm really glad that i did like i really am and [inaudible 00:07:33].and you've go
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t so many people behind you. the second you feel low or feel disempowered, just knock on our doors and we are there...thank you.you've got an army.
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hi there pamela with commercial arbitration, i was wondering if the...
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so the question is malware relating to smart contracts?
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.without them, should there also be a contract to say...
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the executor on transactions is not a...
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owner of the funds held at the multi sigares.
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i think that right now, a lot of people are talking about using identity-based or reputation-based systems for escrow agents.
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a good call is if you have a party whether they're a lawyer or not that both people know that's one way to go. as someone who's known in the industry...
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who knows what they're doing, if you can find them in a lot of people are trying to establish themselves as escrow agents in this space.
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and so i think we'll see the emergence of that probably by the middle of next year.okay.
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thank you. pamela if you could just do a short introduction and your interest in...
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i'm an attorney out of chicago in the states. i'm licensed to practice law in illinois and michigan.
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