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are you guys happy with how disney has treated the muppets? are you guys happy with how disney has treated the muppets?
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except ignoring the fact they shut down the ride in the l.a.
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except ignoring the fact they shut down the ride in the l.a.
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you say mostly, i say mostly not. [crosstalk] i feel like between, what was that 2001?
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you say mostly, i say mostly not. i feel like between, what was that 2001?
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and yeah, i mean and then not really anything until the movie in 2011 [crosstalk 00:00:23].
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exactly. and yeah, i mean and then not really anything until the movie in 2011 [crosstalk 00:00:29]. exactly.
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and i'm also upset about the fact that they've never figured out how to merchandise the muppets since they've owned them. how do we not
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have more dvd's, anything. and they're really just kind of like every once in a while-
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like a few little adorable muppet dolls at hallmark, the hallmark store for the weekend. so there's that.
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like a few little adorable i'm up at dolls at hallmark, the hallmark store for the weekend. so there's that.
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maybe someone will figure out how to make money from the muppets, which seems pretty obvious to you and me.
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well, i don't know if you've heard the news that that was all over the internet this past couple of days? no tell me about it. ...is that they're working,
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it's just a pilot presentation, but for a possible new muppet series [inaudible 00:00:01:07].
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do you have any sense of what that would be like? like the old muppet show? because muppets tonight when they brought that back in the nineties, kind of had the same concede of like the behind the scenes variety shows, right?
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they're supposedly like about to be rolling out a bunch of kids or all ages related stuff soon. so i feel like that would be a no brainer-
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fascinating about that is once again, you called it robin hooding, correct?
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in this case, the lawsuit involved six, but there were more than six. they just couldn't identify all of us, so they only went after the people they could figure out who they were.
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so now you have been sued criminally or civilly?
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yeah. yeah. so it was hitchhiking music.
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i think it must've been around '03 was probably the first time i heard your stuff. yeah.
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i'd probably be then. i had another video, but they only played it three times.
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and maybe i'm even getting the title wrong.
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yeah. that's the one that you can see by my expression, i'm upset about it, that it's not my song.
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a week ago, daniel was in town before you guys came here. who would have been the biggest canadian influence for you in hip hop as you were coming up?
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yeah. daniels, he's still incredible.
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tell me if you can remember this, another piece of hip hop trivia, i suppose your first ever live show.
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but i'm from a small town, half hour outside of halifax. so i came because-
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...in case i ever forget what rap is, it's just, "oh yeah, yeah. that guy, that's rap"
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i'd probably take snoop, even though he's not like the most lyrical guy it's just relaxing. i loved his first album and he smooth. snoop.
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'88 was another sleeper year i thought might've been picked. straight out of compton, nation of millions, follow the leader, long live the king, great adventure-
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beat boxing, graffiti, graffiti.
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how you got involved in that or how you remember getting involved in that anyway.
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you said he was involved in acting. he was doing a lot of local little theater.
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do you know anything at all about how the project started?
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so your dad is at this production meeting and their talking about-
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yeah. cause the capri was a pretty old theater at that point.
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for a child, it was, traumatic.
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everybody's waiting for something
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or all the cast and crew had either died or mysteriously what
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a bunch of nonsense. i believed all that stuff. i saw that thing and i believed all of that.
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i know.
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that was so ridiculous.
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all right. i want to thank you again
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for doing this. oh yeah. you don't have to thank me.
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i thank you. raging the cage by j giles band over and over and over and just played defender all evening.
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do you know what? that was a, it was a eureka moment. that was because i was, i had the enemies. i mean, i was
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just in the, he can't just walk to the right and you're at the end of the room, it's going to make forever
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program that game, you know, you've got less time to actually add more content. so that was kind of a, the super mario style, the same graphics.
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i mean, obviously it's it. we did a lot of research into and to what these-
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there must be somebody somewhere that's done a, that's written a paper or done a study of a video game art as a form of a minimalism.
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together an eight bit and it sounded like those sounds belong together.
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who are involved with the input. you credited a number of people if i remember.
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yeah. several things. i mean, at the moment i've been working on a project that i originally designed in 1997.
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so i'll go out to li like, the hat comes off and the, the, the, he loses his sort of jetter and he becomes an actual satire and he can jump around, a goat man. and
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it. didn't do anything for the first three months. cause he didn't really give me anything to do
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to the honor department to work in pro promotions after he was done with us. and,
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and it would be used to sort of throw to classic cartoons.
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a lot of that sensibility comes out of that space. cause bootcamp, i think everybody that
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constantly churn out stuff until you finally arrived at some place that you would have never arrived at. had you not been rejected
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the space coast and you know, in space goes, we also, we just didn't have any money
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having mike sort of oversee the whole thing. i felt like
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i'm wondering, i mean the writing process for that show, it always blew my mind.
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it's fine with me. i don't have any, any, i don't get offended.
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so like how do you know when your writing space goes? and this is, i think true for all adult swim shows, how do you know?
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or i think it was just like, is there anything too weird? and it sounds like the answer is no. like there was never a time where someone was like, whoa, hold on. that might be too much.
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that's the thing you're watching it. and you're like, are they doing this? i think they're doing, are they still doing this?
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yeah, yeah. yeah. so, i mean, why not? no pressure. why not do something else? so,
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they worked in programming,
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get togethers and just watch new episodes of larry sanders all together at like andy's apartment.
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not that you know, but it's sort of started with space coast
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and we would, so it was, it's all driven by money. i mean, it's like you can't
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and i,
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so you're not even pitching a plot. you're pitching like characters and a vibe.
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i mean, there's a lot of things you can, there's a lot of ways to make cartoons
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sort of classic. we're going to take this classic cartoon thing and turn it on its head. this sort of just felt...
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so we learned very, i would say quickly, but it took months for us to figure it out. and
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i was at a urinal next to our head of ad sales at the time. and he said something like,
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"we really pulled that shit show out of the fire". i'm thinking, i never realized it was a shit show at any point.
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you mentioned that you were getting burnt out or at least subconsciously getting burnt out on space coast after 10 years, which is way longer than you did space coast. are you getting burnt out on aqua teen at all?
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and
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there's more of everything. and also aqua teen is just our baby. i mean,
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i feel like we sacrificed for it. it came from us.
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do you listen to the internet? i shouldn't, but i occasionally do.
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and by the time we get done with it, i kind of hold it to that standard. and
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i think, i don't know, i'm not making any sense, that the...
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i'm working on three shows. that's a lot, isn't it? it is a lot and my wife's ready for that to change, but
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yeah. i was able to hire a real makeup artists to do all this old man makeup on dana snyder it was great. so...
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(silence) of paradise. so they have to build a ship out of virgin bones to escape paradise.
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yeah, it does. it gets right up in your face in a very great way.
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and if you... i live in the south and we drive to shreveport whenever we're going to visit my in-laws.
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and i think comedically it's funnier it's funnier live action.
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it's almost like you can naturally assume that you're going to see anything because it is a cartoon. and if it's live action,
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i don't know, it had to be live action. plus
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they're not tricks. i mean, in the end, it's got to be funny to your ear, and this...
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yeah, he's a really great actor. and we had like matt servito, i mean, the guy who played agent harrison-
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did being in front of the camera, interest you at all, that it wasn't all tempting to be in the show?
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i enjoyed, i enjoyed doing it. i enjoyed performing and being part of other people's projects. but i don't know, after
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the is a shameless ham, if i need to be, but-
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