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there is when it's a puppet that probably takes a lot more energy to perform. recently
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i got to see matt vogel playing big bird, who is the understudy for caroll spinney
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and just because big bird is a very large puppet and he's heavy. and we were also in a rush-
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yeah, you've got one hand up in the air, right? that's right. for the beak.
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and then you got one hand up in the air, right at the beak. well,
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and then the other hand is going through the right hand. i'm going to use a wing, for one wing.
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the other wing is empty, but there's a string that, it goes up through the neck and then down to the other wing.
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[inaudible 00:00:01:26]. but yeah, sometimes the puppeteers are just like "i need to get this thing that's on camera and i'm not going to keep the puppet up just for waiting for the next take.
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that's a lot. yeah. your hand's in the air. i just demonstrated that even though no one can see me holding my hand there. it's hard. i'm tired. i'm tired. yeah. your hand's in the air. i just demonstrated that even though no one can see me holding my hand there. it's hard. i'm tired. yes.
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last time brian and i were on set together. we saw snuffy, which was also...
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last time brian and i were on set together. we saw snuffy, snuffy walked
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right past us. but the weird thing was, i don't know if you really remember this. there's a second puppeteer obviously for the hind legs.
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and the seam was opened so that he could get some air,
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i guess, before they started filming. they weren't shooting yet. so it was just snuffy, completely gutted open with a human being inside. like as if he...
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yes, exactly. awesome. yeah. that was a little a discomforting,
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i think. i thought you were just going to comment on how well synchronized they were.
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i thought you were just going to comment on how well synchronized they were.
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they've been doing it for so long. it's like snuffy moves like one creature with...
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they've been doing it for so long. it's like snuffy moves like one creature with-
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how does follow that bird hold up because. oh man, when i was a kid, my mom will still bring up that i cried a lot when big bird...
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how does follow that bird hold up? oh man. because when i was a kid. my mom will still bring up that i cried a lot when big bird-
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loved that movie. i love follow that bird. i love it. you're hesitant. no, i love it.
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what are your reservations? i can just see the flaws in it more than i could, obviously when i was five.
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what are your reservations? i can just see the flaws in it more than i could obviously when i was five.
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isn't it weird that they made. what's the deal?
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sesame street, who, like we were saying, the muppets weren't designed to teach numbers. you're taking those sesame street characters who were, and putting them into a narrative movie, which is more what the muppets were designed for.
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right, right. they definitely got to branch out because they're not teaching letters and numbers now. they're doing a whole separate.
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they definitely got to branch out because they're not teaching letters and numbers now. they're doing a whole-
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well, it's more of like messages about family.
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and that it's okay to jump from a moving truck if a grown up gives you permission.
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that's right. that's important. but then they had a second movie in the nineties called elmo in grouchland.
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it was not as good. yeah. it's a much cheaper looking,
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skews much younger. yeah. it's so much cheaper looking
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to both. that one seemed more like, what's cool
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about follow that bird is big bird runs a muck on earth,
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like big bird is on a cross country voyage that one's a little more in muppet world isn't it? yes.
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yeah. well he goes to grouchland. it still makes follow that bird stand out as a little more unique. so grouchland is like not educational, it's just like elmo's
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adventures. there's something educational about it. it's whatever it is like. is there? yeah.
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well there's definitely, it's been so long since i've seen the movie, but there's definitely moments
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when the action stops and elmo is like "well, we got to figure out how to do this." it's like,
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if elmo is not actively teaching me something, my tolerance for elmo drops a lot. i feel like elmo gets away with a lot because he's educational.
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no, see now, i think it's the opposite. i think elmo is the most entertaining when he's just allowed to go nuts.
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i think it's the opposite. i think elmo is the most entertaining when he's just allowed to go nuts.
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it's hilarious, yeah. it's hysterical. now when he has to teach the letter d, maybe we're a little stuck with the educational content.
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it's hilarious, yeah. it's hysterical. now when he has to teach the letter d, maybe we're a little stuck with the educational content.
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did you guys ever see the video. and i just remember that when he said elmo on a talk show. it used to be one of my favorite videos online.
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and i haven't thought about in a while with cookie monster on martha stewart's show,
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pause, pause, go search cookie monster, martha stewart. you'll find it. the story is that. now they're back, what's up with that amazing video?
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frank oz does not give a fuck. that's what it comes down to.
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but that's frank oz. cause that's a fairly recent video. frank oz still performs muppets.
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that's frank oz. cause that's a fairly recent video. frank oz still performs muppets.
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the muppet show characters anymore. he doesn't do piggy, fozzie animal, but he's every once in a while he shows up for sesame street stuff.
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from what i hear, it's like every other year he'll do a day on set. cool.
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from what i hear, it's like every other year he'll do a day on set. cool.
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a part of me is a little upset about the fact that frank oz is genuinely, if not one of the, he's the best
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puppeteer in the world. he's just an amazing talent. absolutely hysterical.
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it's cool. so he's one of the best puppeteers in the world, but he doesn't perform anymore. he just wants to direct and he's a good director.
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so he's one of the best puppeteers in the world, but he doesn't perform anymore. he just wants to direct and he's a good director
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he's not the greatest director in the world. that's true, that's true. that's like picasso being like, "you know, i'm going to try playing the guitar."
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i see that, but at the same time, i think, he's given us decades and decades of genius work. i think we can let him relax.
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but is he relaxing? i don't know.
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but is he relaxing? i don't know.
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if he does frank oz on martha stewart and he was just like, fuck it. and just like went for it.
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yeah. cause i think he also, frank oz got to a point in his career where he's like, "what are you going to do fire me?"
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yeah. cause i think he also, frank oz got to a point in his career where he's like, "what are you going to do fire me?"
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so martha stewart seems legitimately upset in that video. it's such a funny video.
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yes. martha stewart seems legitimately upset in that video. it's such a funny video.
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yes. i think there's also one of frank as miss piggy with martha stewart. that's almost as funny.
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well, the other one i was just going to mention is a miss piggy on the tonight show with jay leno when they had her on for new year's eve. i don't remember what year it is. it's definitely on youtube.
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well, the other one i was just going to mention is a miss piggy on the tonight show with jay leno when they had her on for new year's eve. i don't remember what year it is. it's definitely on youtube.
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i want to say it's like '96 to '97, something like that. so they have piss piggy on the top of some building in times square reporting live too for the new year's
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eve thing. and you can kind of tell as they check in with miss piggy throughout the hour,
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that frank oz is getting increasingly cranky. also we
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hear it was freezing cold. so they just wanted to, they're just waiting for midnight so they can get the hell out of there. yeah.
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by the end. he's just kind of, he's screaming, he's yelling at people.
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yeah. by the end, he's just kind of, he's screaming, he's yelling at people.
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alright. so we're running at a time. one
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more, one last thing that we haven't talked about yet that people should see to really appreciate the genius of the muppets from each of you.
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yeah. wow. i got to think
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about this. while you're thinking, i got one. i'm going to brag for a second. have you seen big birdman? no.
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while you're thinking, i got one. i'm going to brag for a second. have you seen big birdman? no.
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so when thank you. and it went viral. it went like crazy viral, like three quarters of a million views on youtube. and the
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great thing about it was, it's not just like we're spoofing a popular movie,
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but we got to use caroll spinney as himself. so caroll spinney has been playing big bird. right. for 40 some years. and
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it really was nice. first of all, it's amazing
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to get to work with him, but it's really great to see that caroll spinney got a little bit of a spotlight as himself. not as big bird.
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big bird, yeah. just fantastic. it's about the open in theaters.
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yeah. all over the country. yeah. beginning of march. but the really great thing about big birdman
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nowadays, which is they're still doing really amazing spoofs and they're still getting crazy amounts of attention on youtube
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and they're so relevant, which is awesome for a show that's 46 years old, a puppet show for
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people that care about it still like still blows my mind.
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it's for preschoolers and people who watched youtube.
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it's for preschoolers and people who've watched youtube.
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yeah, exactly. mostly for you and me. that's right. i would recommend for disney fans at least to watch the muppets at walt disney world.
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yes, exactly. mostly for you and me. that's right. i would recommend for disney fans at least to watch the muppets at walt disney world.
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a tv special that was one of the last things jim henson ever worked on.
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yeah. it should be a dvd extra somewhere, but it hasn't been. yeah.
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