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it is different, but i have watched it like a little bit.
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one of my favorite episodes and i'm drawing a blank. oh, it's called, manny's land of carpets.
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where the fraggles find a radio, and they hear a commercial for a carpet store. and it's one of these like
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keep is like their oracle, the trashy grants, the fraggles wisdom-
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[crosstalk 00:00:02:07]. the [crosstalk] that you used to do on the ed sullivan show, on johnny carson show.
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motion capture, with like the puppeteers are acting out everything that you see. the characters do on scale
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[crosstalk 00:02:17]. [inaudible] of whatever. yeah. so the one place where all the cgi now is-
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so what makes these characters stand out? like what makes your favorite, your favorite-
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you remember [crosstalk] them finally from your childhood and when you go back, they're still funny.
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exactly. and i don't know, there's just so recognizable.
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i mean, there's a reason that, when like the new smurfs movie came out, people weren't going like, "oh my god, there's a smurf on a
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billboard. i got to go see this thing". but you see kermit on a billboard, ends like, there's something really
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exciting about that, and maybe you do have to go see that new movie or whatever it is.
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i mean not a lot of people said that about muppets- [crosstalk] wanted people. but you know, there was at least more than like the marmaduke movie.
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so why do you think that happened? because muppets most wanted didn't perform as well, at the box office as the puppets did. right? it performed beneath expectations, let's just say. yeah.
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so like, why did that happen? what happened between those two movies? or was it the disk that the second one didn't have jason segel, or what's going on there?
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a couple of weeks after mr. peabody. some people said-
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a big reason was there was no urgency. with the first month of movie, i'm sorry, the 2011 movie it was, the muppets are back. you have to go see because the muppets-
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and for whatever reason, people really didn't understand, the thing of kermit has an evil twin. because a coworker actually just asked me this week. "why do i see kermit talking on tv with a russian
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accent?" yeah. so i don't know if it's more like the movie itself was, i think it's more, the movie itself was not promoted while the muppets were promoted. right. and
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they're definitely keeping busy there. i feel like it was a bit of a wall after the most recent movie, just because from what we heard, they changed hands within the disney...
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they can just grab a puppet, grab a celebrity, write a quick song, whatever it takes and just get it up there.
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they appeared at an nba game recently.
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well,
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you, you saw sweden throw out a pitch at a brooklyn cyclones gallery.
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right? what do you guys... when you talk to the people who perform them up, it's what, what do you, first of all, are they like, is there a type of person who performs them up? is it a diverse group? what are they like?
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oh they're all assholes. that's not true-
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imagine anyone who is performing as a muppet. and anyone who's devoted their life to puppetry is an asshole.
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true. the cool thing about the puppeteers, is that because they're all below the screen, you don't see their face at all. there are these amazing, hilarious, talented performers,
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but there's no ego at all. like they're not
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in it to become famous. if they were, they would not be puppeteers, they would be actors or whatever. and that lack of ego makes them like just the nicest people in hollywood
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[inaudible 00:00:05:32]. the other cool thing is that because there's only a few people left from that original muppet,
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almost all the performers started as muppet fans. so like, they're just excited to be here.
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they're carrying on the legacy and they want to- yeah. yeah. they're as excited about it as we are.
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what do you guys ask them? like what do you want, what do you want to know? when you talk to one
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of them? can we hang out? could we be best friends? that's why
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i want none of them. can we hang out? can we be best friends? that's why
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i want none of them. yeah. we just ask them about their, how they got into the muppets.
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yeah, i mean it seems like it's muppet or bust if you're going to be a puppeteer, right?
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yeah, that's the weird thing about being a puppeteer is like really, there's only a couple.
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yeah, that's the weird thing about being a puppeteer is like really, there's only a couple.
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most of them... really just, like at a very young age,
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own their own puppets, are performing, like in their backyards or whatever, and kind of, i think every one of them had to make that choice probably around
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college of like, am i pursuing this as a career? is this not just a hobby?
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yeah. it's like, when you... i guess it's like joining a really good,
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one football team, you're like, "all right, this is it. i'm going for this. we're trying to go pro here".
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and you talked, have you seen the muppets performed?
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well, actually i should back up. i'd say the first time that we ever saw muppets perform,
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not so great muppet tv, special called, letters to santa, which was a christmas special.
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it's really like, well, there are so few muppet fan sites out there. there's
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yeah, so like really we were like, we are their audience. i mean, that's a very small circle. there's only a few people.
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i had actually just shown up at, i found out they were filming outside in brooklyn heights. and so i just went and i just stood outside and watched them film for a while. and then i got the courage,
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i mean, this was how many years ago? this is like eight years ago. yeah.
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i just got the courage to like go up to see who performs kermit
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the frog and just be like, "hey, i'm sorry. i just want to say hello. i'm joe,
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i run the tough pigs". and i've just kind of expected him to be like, "oh,
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i love your site". and he's like, "well, come with me". and he brought me backstage and...
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it's true. and, and then because of that, they invited ryan and i to go visit
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the sets while they were filming indoors. and we got to interview steve whitmire that day. we got to just sit and watch them film for an entire day, which was, i mean, just amazing.
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what surprised you about that? what did you see and didn't expect to see?
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it was interesting. one thing they did that, i think one of the writers actually like said as an aside to us,
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"blackberry, blueberry", and with each arm,
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he's putting them. so they had to have, i guess, was it three puppeteers-
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and one lease. it may have been one puppeteer per arm.
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and then like one would fall out of his hand and they'd have to start over again. and it just took many, many takes to do one simple guy that probably was on screen for like six seconds.
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that's cool. what about sesame street? what was being there?
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sesame street's amazing. i mean like that's where i learned how to read.
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you literally learned how to read that, exactly right. yeah.
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that one was more emotional for me than anything. just because, like we walk on the set for the first time i remember and being like, "oh my god,
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oh my god, it's oscars can". yeah. and like they let us go inside the can. and i remember when we were leaving later on in the day, we were walking through a room that had a [inaudible 00:09:15].
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the kind of amazing thing that i found is we've been there.
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yet with like the... you see the end of the street and it's the studio floor and you see the lights overhead and everything. but then when i turn on the tv show and watch it, i still see sesame
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street.
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not thinking about the lights, just outside of the frame. right. so the same place.
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when you see the characters perform live, is the illusion real, like you see the person performing it at all, or are you locking eyes of the character?
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for the most part, i think i only see the character cause some of the performers, like they just...
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for the most part, i think i only see the character. because some of the performers,
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their energy is going through their hands at that point. leslie carrara, who plays abby cadabby is
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one of those people who, she'll see someone like hanging out, off set and she'll grab abby, put the puppet on and be like
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this in your face. and you don't see leslie at all. i mean, it's all abby.
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it's kind of interesting and fun to watch them though. just to kind of look at the puppet, look at the puppeteer, looking at the puppet. although then at a certain point you look at the puppeteer and it's kind of like, "oh, why is that lady talking?" and abby cadabby is
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kind of interesting and fun to watch them though. just like kind of look at the puppet, look at the puppeteer, yeah. look at the puppet. although then at a certain point you look at the puppeteer and it's kind of like, "oh, why is that lady talking? and abby cadabby-
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i think the only times that i can think of
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that you look at the puppet and they're not just 100%
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