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] he has a mohawk, and a jamaica t-shirt and a peace sign, and he's ready for bring on style wars, he's ready. [
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] there's a banana fiber involved terrace and not to displacing fed [
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] to build the houses. so with these, you know, sharing motel rooms and meals every day and [
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], really working together [
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]. suggestions from different people that there was no master plan from the beginning, we figured out these [
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] are some of the kids from the neighborhood. they would show up [
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] to work to that, it had to be like a two way street [
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] pine ridge at the time, doing this project for san jose when i got invitation letter and the disc. [
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]rj. so i have no idea what i will paint. i just, [
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] if i could work with a group of youth from there so that i would learn their[
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] perspective about the place and i got an image of the wall and i was out the stipend for that project is food. so i look [
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] down and the wall next to it is stone, and it's the entrance to the foundation. they said they felt was the best [
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].united states would never give up its infatuation with war. and then you said something, about the native americans [
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] in connection with that, and i didn't catch your meaning.[
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] oh, i think that it's kind of like in the original [
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] and i feel that it's kind of like if this original sort of relationship based on the power [
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] of how the relationship with the tribes went down and [
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] going. and as i said, this, aside, which is [
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] honoring our men and women from operation iraqi freedom. so there's actually a lot of [
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] at a man there. you know, like when i was in pine ridge and people asked me, how was it? i said the closest way for me to describe is that i cried with strange men or straight [
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] cried in the presence of strange man and strange men cried with me. yeah, but this one, musician, tim black bear, we just hang out at his studio,[
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] been drinking a little bit and it was very much, he wanted, he demanded.[
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].and also has these layers to it that you've mentioned. but, some of the things you showed that you've [
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] most recently been working on are more nuanced and less obvious on first [
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] glance. they contain much, much more facets, big, more than the three colors are [
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i don't know, my background as far as...
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but my identity was as a punk, i was... that was a social movement, cultural movement...
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no way. and so for me, it was kind of talking...
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i was talking back to this sort of corporate...
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what are they? mercenary messages, right? i guess [inaudible 00:00:35]
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would have, we would have to call them contractor messages, but so i was kind of talking
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of advertising things that weren't really possible to be...
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than buying something. but then, as you're firing monsters, you can become a monster...
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rather than just seeing it for something in the city and i think at that point they're not really...
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dynamite collaborators, you share a marvelous irony and a complete... ...
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to communities here and in brazil, if you find them similar or different, i think...
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and also because the portuguese in the spanish,
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i think is, i don't know, latin cultures are a little bit more sloppy than the anglo-saxon protestants, whatever. so, we weren't...
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in ecuador is also part indigenous. in brazil, you have the sign of a single...
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finger in a factory accident when he was a teenager, the president of the united...
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or stagnant. at the time the president of the united states, his job, his father's job had been president and...
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herself and one of her children got to be president of brazil and...
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of the [inaudible 00:02:17] of the planet earth, the amazon forest, she's in brazil. she was the
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environmental minister of brazil. so, i think right now there's this so much sort of social mobility...
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i don't know, like symbionese liberation army lady becoming president of the united states.
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so, there's some really interesting things going on in latin america, i think in south america at the moment. [inaudible 00:02:46]
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in the united states... anyway, i'm digressing, but i think there's a lot of differences between...
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i did and...
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i had to use, i guess, marijuana again for overcoming vertigo.
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it seemed to work at the time, but yeah, i was scared shirtless, pretty much
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and my friend was as scared as me. so, we were a pretty lousy team.
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tonight's panel, i guess, is presenting three of pm press's outspoken authors.
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the logic, if there is any of the outspoken authors...
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series of books is to present writers of fiction
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and their work, but to kind of interrogate further...
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so, i sort of volunteered to moderate this a little bit.
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so, i thought we would just begin by introducing ourselves and maybe we should start with [gary 00:04:10].
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it's a good point, terry, that... speaking for myself,
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i'm actually quite pleased to be a genre writer
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and i think, i suppose it stems from being as a kid, my dad was a mechanic
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and my mom was a librarian. so, before i could go out and play a lot of sports,
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when i was a kid, i was forced to read, but apparently
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i read a lot of different kinds of books, read a lot of comic books and
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some though are actually grounded in a certain politics... i first wrote a ...
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probably none of my books are revolutionary books in that regard.
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i mean, ultimately actually some white comic books have been revolutionary, but not really the mystery,
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even crime and mystery. and in the war being somewhat distinct in the genre.
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it's an opportunity. it gives me stories. they're different stories.
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my books aren't like anybody else's books. and that's a hard thing to do these days. so i've tried to calm myself down a little and say, look
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even if what you're doing is trying to do is impossible. nevertheless is
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your little niche in the big biosphere of books being written. so i just keep packing away.
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one of the things i like to address tonight is about the political novel, is it always utopian? is it sometimes dystopian?
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i think it was a science fiction writer you have a bit of an edge because science
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fiction kind of from jump was progressive and political if you go from wells
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but certainly from hg wells at any rate the only really explicitly
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and so i didn't have to answer the question of how it happened. i just sort of rewrote
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a lot of it is, the question i guess i would like to ask is does it have to be utopian to be
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revolutionary? because i think in an interview one time, gary, you said that for you, noir,
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he's kind of this doom character in a doom situation and it seemed like you're kind
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of locked into a dystopian view of the world.
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but how do you see that?
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native son is not bad. it's just interesting.
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it was dystopian, but it's like you say it was basically just... i felt that a lot of [inaudible 00:02:19]`
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even with gibson who, and i love gibson's writing. i think [inaudible 00:02:25].
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police have an easy relationship with...
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a historical novel i wrote it in 2004. and now by 2010, it's although it was slightly in the future when i wrote it,
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live in... unnovelistic. so you have a problem there that i did attack straight on and i
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say it was a mixed to... i crawled away from that battlefield.
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the ira glass show, what's it called? this american life. so it was just great cause it had was a segment of...
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science fiction writer from montreal who i actually hadn't recognized was here till earlier. so another colleague in the field who's next?
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she doesn't... i mean squids have more spine than she does.
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yahoos in the first hundred and although some of them show up later on in the book
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because as the struggles evolve, it's everything proceeds on it. and it's sort of an other worldly level of enlightenment education
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thought it was just very advanced level of discourse and
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gripe the science fictional moment of today as science having to sort of fight for it.
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because here we are in america today and we read the polls. i scarcely can believe them of what people think about what's going on in the world.
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what i think i have seen in the last say 10, 15 years
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in the labs and the field doing their work. kind of a geeky population
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