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people who experienced deaths in the pandemic, not necessarily to covid...
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and for some people, it's actually kind of making it easier because they don't have to do things that they don't feel like doing.
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and for others, it's far more difficult because they feel that grief makes people feel isolated.
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...oftentimes, hence the pandemic, with our inability to gather, our inability to touch one another and get close to one another...
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...people are feeling even more isolated...
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and that's one of the reasons why i always say we need to get better at talking about grief and recognizing grief, supporting one another in grief...
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...both, two people lose their jobs or two siblings lose a parent...
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if we can recognize the feelings in ourselves..
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...recognizing those feelings, recognizing that whatever the feelings are when someone loses a job or someone experiences the death of someone...
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and we need to normalize that. we need to normalize that and normalize the need to reach out and be in contact with one another and support one...
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...absolutely. and we don't do education about it. we don't...
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we don't do education about it in social work very much.
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no, we don't talk about it in...
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this idea of five stages of grief come from?
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the five stages of grief over and over and over again.
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in fiction and in movies-
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i think because we like to compartmentalize things that are-
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and so i think the notion of stages makes us feel-
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what do people who are grieving tell you about what they need from people or what they're experiencing?
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a lot of people say that they need people to reach out to them.
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they feel isolated. they can see that people either avoid them or they avoid talking about the grief-
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the loss, whatever, if it's the [inaudible 00:01:00].
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is that the person likely sad anyway.
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and they're going to be even sadder if they feel like it's not okay to talk to me about it.
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so, if i'm opening the door and-
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that i'm an okay person to talk to. and so when they do feel like talking about it, they will.
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let me know if you want … let me know if you want a meal delivered.
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you need to say, "could i come over and babysit or do your dishes or do your laundry on thursday?"
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grieving to decide what it is that they need.
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all the time. and it's just so vague. it's not-
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and we're not very good at knowing what we want let-
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i knew they knew and they didn't say anything, and that was really hard.
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that was really awful because it made me feel like not only do i feel awful right now, but-
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there's a quote about someone-
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you're not doing anybody any favor if they try to avoid it.
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there's no right thing to say.
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there's no right thing to say. one of the wrong things to say is, "at least you blah blah blah."
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at least you had a birthday with your mother.
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maybe try to sit with those hard feelings.
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or we can make it worse by trying to avoid it or not talk about it at all.
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so, we need to talk more about grief.
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it's related to grief. there are wonderful things-
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ways that we can do education in a very public fashion as well as in our schools, in our universities.
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in the initial stages of a major loss-
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it's normal to not feel like getting out of bed for a day or two.
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what you need to do. when that stretches on then maybe that's not so helpful.
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how does anybody even know that? especially a young student who may be experiencing loss for the first time.
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we've heard talk about a national mental health strategy.
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the need for national grief strategy is different than a mental health strategy.
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supporting one another in our communities, in our faith communities, in our neighborhoods-
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in our workplaces, in our classrooms-
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whatever kind of classroom that is. and i think-
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that's why a national grief strategy is needed.
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grief is a normal part of life.
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and that's different from mental health strategy.
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it's a coalition of people who-
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organizations that have signed on and associations of professionals that have signed on and i would invite anybody in our campus community who's interested in it to add their name-
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and to join in the call to have a national grief strategy.
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to allow it and make space for it in others.
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people to not be okay. like i said earlier-
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it should be okay to-
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to not be okay. and for people to give people the benefit of the doubt to figure out what they need.
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throw themselves into work because they crave the normality. and some people need to stay away for a while. and everything in between.
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so, the fact the association of the university of waterloo [inaudible 00:05:02]-
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and it includes four weeks of fully paid bereavement leave up-
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absolutely. absolutely. i think it's an important-
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it's an important recognition of the impact that deaths in our close circle have upon us.
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i'm not a big fan of making hierarchies of grief.
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written about child loss being the worst kind of grief. and the fact of the matter is-
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the worst kind of grief is whatever we're experiencing in the moment.
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but the reality is is that children, we don't expect children to die before their parents.
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let alone deal with the emotion and the social aspects and all of the other parts of that. so, absolutely it's a step in the right direction.
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[inaudible 00:06:01] and we worked with a professional photographer.
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we have incredible photographs and a number of those photographs are going to be going up on our website-
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be exploring how tattoos contribute to people's growth and healing.
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we are hoping that we'll have participants talking about cultural tattoos and black lives matter tattoos.
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there's all kinds of ways that tattoos can be healing and we're going to collect those stories.
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we're going to work with them to have them make digital stories that people can use in classrooms.
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the stories behind it are so rich.
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so incredible.
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they are connected to the person who died through the tattoo.
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particularly. death does not end a relationship.
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you can find all of our past shows and helpful links on soundcloud.com. to ensure you don't miss an episode-
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please subscribe to the beyond the bulletin podcast wherever you get your podcasts and recommend us to your colleagues and waterloo alumni.
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remember to do your part to limit the spread of covid-19 in our community.
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thank you. it will be another staycation of moving things out of my basement to prepare for an upcoming renovation.
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i'm brandon sweet, editor of the daily bulletin.
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we're going to be talking more about how he gets in front of key decision makers and people with the cash to help him with-
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soon. soon brandon. february's almost over and then it'll be march.
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beer every spring. it has served me well lo these many years.
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it has been a week touched by sadness as the university community mourns the passing of two of our own.
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her spirit, passion, and commitment to optometry were felt both here at the university of waterloo and around the world.
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staff, students, and faculty are grateful to have had the opportunity to honor gina and her indelible legacy during the celebration of her retirement last year.
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she has had an extraordinary impact on all those who were lucky enough to know her.
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due to the pandemic there will not be a public funeral service for professor sorbara.
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doctoral student in the department of electrical and computer engineering.
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and he was the co-founder of ka imaging. just over a year ago-
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[inaudible 00:08:36] jointly announced that the two groups have reached an agreement for faculty salaries-
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lasting until april 30, 2024.
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effective may 1, 2022, and a third 1% increase effective may 1, 2023.
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