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interesting, because of all the things that have been left undone. but yeah, i don't even [inaudible 00:04:58]-
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my thought is actually, is more like... and by the way, i love the-
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be using the bsp blockchain outside of putting hashes inside of it, which is like, there's
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nothing special or unique about that at all. that's not using the-
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i just don't know if that's going to compete fast enough.
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... [inaudible 00:05:18] dad. maybe the whole thing was just a, "let's let people run a demo on a digital currency so we can learn from it and implement-"
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but the protocol is just manifest-
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someone will mention, "hey, let's make the following changes to the protocol so we can do all these cool things." and immediately a bunch of basement-dwelling losers will be like, "roger ver's-
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... trying to take over. they're trying to emulate bsv, and that's craig-
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... craig," right? i mean i have no faith-
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... that any of those changes that make it better to build on will happen. i wish they would.
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i literally wish i tweeted this and i really wish this would happen. i literally wish bch-
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...would just replace their protocol with the bsv protocol. exactly. and then all the people on bsv would just come and build on bch because you got the ticker-
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... and the network effect, you got roger and 2 million wallets already downloaded, which access to all kinds of users to let them try out these apps. you have the ability,
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roger can get in the room with people, can go onto cnbc. it's the number two. and when the conversations happen during a bull run about big-
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well, i think what matters is, people like to build in a community of people that are open-
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... actually the other day that tk mentioned is like, they never talk about all of that stuff.
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actually it was way faster than everybody else said was possible.that's-
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... big, i think they could have an excellent narrative, but i think they just put their-
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... you see that go up. and if the response is from [inaudible 00:01:13]-
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craig or calvin or whatever.whoa, this is really awesome. love-
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... let's chat. didn't know if you knew bsv could do this, right?
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internet business that is using big block bitcoin in the way it was supposed to be used, and have them have-
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yeah, i feel like that really could be the one spark that gets the ball rolling.
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marketing pr problem. i think if you listen to the talk about a year ago, it sounded like there might be a lot-
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... [inaudible 00:07:08] deal has actually been closed towards that end. and then the one-
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... thing that was an interesting deal, and shout out to george for making that happen, but-
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... bsv actually needs, we're not going to get roger ver-
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blah, blah. you've lost all credibility by incorporating this coin. that's not easy.
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... that's actually cool. that's actually a really cool use case thing right? but here's-
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lonzo ball having a respectable double-double two games in a row and winning one of those games.that-
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... [inaudible 00:07:33] criminal activity. and then the thing that somebody else delivers on that you take credit for is a little tiny island nation.
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... [inaudible 00:07:40] is sycophants, which as i've said, at least, what kind of person, you know, can judge someone to some extent by the-
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... [inaudible 00:07:50] which is the playoff birth, right? that's big talk to be like, "we got a-
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... country," wait, have you? you have an announcement.
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have an announcement that they seem to currently be willing to stand by.
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this ain't even the most exciting announcement you've had.
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it's cool. let's see what happens. but for all i-
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it's been going since 2016, it's four years in.
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legal stuff, four years in, exploring the lightning network as a possible, like-
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hope i'm wrong. i hope that's big. but i'm like...
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as far as i can tell about the guy, the guy's-
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... [inaudible 00:08:30] money on something else years ago, almost never-
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and i understand your point about the hunger and everything else, but what else do you go-
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not only has had success. that's an understatement, like.
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like a substack, like slack. right? when i finally started using these apps... and slack isn't consumer, but-
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... it just almost is never the case that those types of consumer [inaudible 00:08:54]-
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fileclone, the ipfs thing. so like, i-
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all these prominent announcements and finally they go live and i'm like, "okay-
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... hey, this looks like a plausible candidate for what i would want," you don't-
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i'm curious that...
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always worried about tether man, that there's so much smoke around that project and i think it's net going to be good. i think the more-
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it's going to be ugly and the alt coins are going to be smashed again. the thing with these cycles is
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80%, over a period of a few months. and it's like, "oh okay, now crypto's dead for another three years," and that's never fun.
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and fomo, basically. so, i mean you can look [inaudible 00:09:33]-
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... [inaudible 00:09:34] crazy. people are just looking for places to [inaudible 00:09:37], i...
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... [inaudible 00:09:39] telling me, "hey, you want to tell, you raising money?" "no, i don't, i'm not raising money, i don't need to [inaudible 00:09:43]-
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... inflation." yes, that brings a little bit more people getting educated and getting interested on-
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it was all pre-covid, and pre the latest inflationary policies from the feds. so if that's the case-
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and so something that you hear a lot of now is, "oh, if bt-"
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"...once people see how much of a ponzi, this is-"
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hey look, the reason you got wrecked is because the real, original bitcoin over here was the true story value. they're going to go, "no, i'm-"
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"...way more skeptical about anything, even the truth,
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than i was before, because i got burned by a pitch that sounded just like that."
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so i'm not of the persuasion that it's going to be good for bsv in the short to midterm.
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here's the analogy i'll use to illustrate the pow-
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to be confused and annoyed with me and it's all about the framing.
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i think bsv is the guy that goes to the gym and works out every day and gets a lot done. but-
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...who also brags about the marathon that he is going to run next week and never does that.
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and it's so easy because of this guy's own words for people to focus on that and overlook the actual achievements.
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so as an example, based on what derek said earlier-
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or the broader world, as the only dude that's-
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...and development, but they always show up and deliver and make pro-
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it's just, that's not, when you really hear from craig and calvin, you hear from them every day about all-
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...even though all projects built on it aren't good-
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...the biggest problem in bsv is the narrative. it remains the-
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cool companies, streamanity and twitch that have come around in the past year or whatever, that those-
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to me, that seems like, well, that's kind of a weak pitch now to say, "hey, we have a-"
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really this. people know that at the end of the day-
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...build on that. the reaction's going to be predictable. people are going to be like, "oh, that-"
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well, maybe law will eliminate all the competition and people will be forced to use bsv because that's all that's left.
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coin leaders and developers, all the entrepreneurs. everybody's going to end up in jail.
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all these coins are going to be destroyed and there's only going to be one law-abiding blockchain remaining. and then even though everyone still hates craig, even though they still-
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...mistrust calvin. oh, they really need it. and they'll have to come over. which is why i think, instead of saying-
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then we will expose ourselves.
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the matterpool people are pretty interesting and they're actually working-
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,,,and they're actually building. the twitch people, jack lou and his team, which have-
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...acts and streaminity. and even-
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...means, you can't appeal to anyone except for people who already love bsv with-
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...those apps. and that is a problem. and so relayx-
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...payments, instant splits of revenue among 10 people.
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data going on chain and decentralized. these things are incredible. and-
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...no tech that i have yet discovered can do them except bsv. but you can't get-
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150 views max, on our videos on streamanity, because there's not enough people, when we would get 5,000 on youtube.
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even if it was, "oh, well they won't pay the price. even we-"
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all the places i can buy bsv are scary, ridiculous. i got to up-
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... the consumer app use case to me is the most exciting and the one that people have built real things today that are utterly revolutionary and could change the-
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...and i don't know if that's surmountable and if it's surmountable, it's certainly not going to-
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they did with localbitcoin.com, right?
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the weird dichotomy to have the builders building actual-
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