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F | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1,335 | Female | Train | if somebody's up for reelection, maybe trying to demonize the people who are out there in the streets and sort of double down on this few- | [
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X | 5 | 3 | 5 | 1,335 | Female | Train | ... introduced the lawful access to encrypted data act, senator tom cotton, who you will recall from such greatest hits as let's send in the full might of the us military to crush- | [
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A | 5 | 5 | 3 | 1,335 | Female | Train | ... from a cybersecurity perspective and from a broad call for reforms to the criminal justice system perspective, this bill could not be worse timed. | [
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H | 4 | 5 | 5 | 480 | Male | Train | yeah. it's really incredible. it's just, i mean, we've seen other attempts and like a few years ago, feinstein and burr had their anti encryption bill, but this- | [
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C | 6 | 1 | 7 | 480 | Male | Train | ... is even more just like right out there. like, no more real encryption. i even pushed back on the no more strong encryption. i say, it's no more real- | [
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N | 3 | 3 | 3 | 480 | Male | Train | ... is illegal and should be blocked. and they were major lobbyists in favor of sesta-fosta and have lobbied in favor- | [
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X | 5 | 5 | 3 | 480 | Male | Train | ... of the earn it act. and as soon as this bill came out, they sent out this press release, which i have no idea how i'm on their list or why they don't take me off their list, but they send- | [
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H | 3 | 4 | 4 | 480 | Male | Train | ... me stuff anyways, saying like, oh, you know, now that this bill is out, which we support, to end encryption that proves that the earn it. | [
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N | 4 | 3 | 3 | 480 | Male | Train | like this big game that they're playing to try and get some of these things through.right.and just keep throwing more and more attempts at doing something. and i think- | [
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N | 1 | 2 | 2 | 480 | Male | Train | ... again, a lot of it is very performative and grandstanding and the, you know, there's something bad that we must do something. this is something, we will do it.right. | [
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H | 6 | 5 | 5 | 480 | Male | Train | but it's yeah. the whole thing has been kind of exhausting. and i know that outside of this podcast, you and i have had discussions about- | [
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C | 6 | 2 | 5 | 480 | Male | Train | ... how exhausting all of this is, in that we're sort of taking all of our time to have to push back against these ridiculous laws. and it's just like every week, another one seems- | [
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S | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1,335 | Female | Train | ... one of you or just one of me. and, when it comes to bills like these because there's so many and they're coming so fast and furious, there's- | [
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X | 4 | 4 | 3 | 1,335 | Female | Train | ... anywhere. but look, it's just passed out of committee.right.and it could be one of those bills where, it has no chance of passing until suddenly it does. | [
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N | 4 | 3 | 5 | 1,335 | Female | Train | and that is also supposedly the case with the laed bill.mm-hmm (affirmative).which is, okay, this is just this crazy extreme thing that got introduced and it's- | [
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H | 4 | 3 | 4 | 480 | Male | Train | and thank you to everyone for listening to all of this. and hopefully for speaking out as well and- | [
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