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True | lluad | null | (I don't know Zed at all, so this isn't related to anything he's done.)
I've found that whether companies want to work with you, pay you, hire you to do work related to open source code you've written and released is much more strongly connected to how much of a dick or prima donna you are, and how easy you are to wor... | null | 0 | 1319387351 | False | 0 | c2ts2zb | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2ts2zb | t3_llw0s | null | 1427771448 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Yes, Twitter used to be Ruby:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHdZXnsNi8&feature=player_detailpage#t=219s
The video talks about why they've had problems with scalability and what they have been doing to improve this.
Also, https://dev.twitter.com/blog/twitter-open-source-and-jvm | null | 0 | 1319387386 | True | 0 | c2ts34e | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2ts34e | t1_c2ts107 | null | 1427771457 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | minifig | null | By Salvatore Sanfilippo, redis author. Code here: https://github.com/antirez/lamernews | null | 0 | 1319387416 | False | 0 | c2ts38m | t3_lm41l | null | t1_c2ts38m | t3_lm41l | null | 1427771449 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319387533 | False | 0 | c2ts3p6 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2ts3p6 | t1_c2tq35e | null | 1427771457 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | FredFnord | null | > So, being out of reach in some sense should indeed increase its perceived value.
In at least my case, given the past interactions companies I've been associated with have had with GPL projects and trying to pay to get them under a different license, attaching a GPL to some code reduces its perceived value to 0. (... | null | 0 | 1319387574 | False | 0 | c2ts3v2 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2ts3v2 | t1_c2trt7m | null | 1427771459 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319387622 | False | 0 | c2ts424 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2ts424 | t1_c2tqnpt | null | 1427771461 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319387622 | False | 0 | c2ts425 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2ts425 | t1_c2tpuxt | null | 1427771461 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | lanbanger | null | Fast forward 3 months:
Google gets lots of devs interested in Native Client MAME.
Fast forward 9 months:
Google retires Native Client MAME | null | 0 | 1319387880 | False | 0 | c2ts53h | t3_limsz | null | t1_c2ts53h | t3_limsz | null | 1427771473 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | FredFnord | null | What I love about his rant is that it's basically *all about him*. I I me me I'm GREAT look at me I'M AWESOME YOU GUYS AREN'T LOOKING AT ME JESUS WHY CAN'T YOU SEE THAT **I'M SO AWESOME!**.
Companies do not throw money at people when they do not have any need to. It seems like he expected them to, and got really mad w... | null | 0 | 1319387904 | False | 0 | c2ts578 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2ts578 | t1_c2trig2 | null | 1427771474 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | FredFnord | null | Actually, they explicitly are retaining it and redistributing it along with the source code. The language makes no specifications about the file that it needs to be distributed in (and it very easily could, by simply using the word 'file'). | null | 0 | 1319388077 | False | 0 | c2ts5x9 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2ts5x9 | t1_c2trtx1 | null | 1427771483 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | FredFnord | null | Of course, his projects are some of the very few GPL-licensed code that CAN be relicensed to a corporation. In practice, most corporations will not even consider this, because most GPL-licensed code has too many copyright-holders (if you've ever contributed a one-line bug fix, you're a copyright-holder, unless you've s... | null | 0 | 1319388239 | False | 0 | c2ts6m4 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2ts6m4 | t1_c2trt1c | null | 1427771493 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | shadowmoses | null | I agree to a certain degree. Some people actually surprise me with skills and knowledge, but that's about 1 in maybe (and I'm stretching maybe) 1000. | null | 0 | 1319388424 | False | 0 | c2ts7df | t3_lm4g3 | null | t1_c2ts7df | t3_lm4g3 | null | 1427771502 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | JL235 | null | > Java "the language" is okay. It's actually pretty simple (compared to say, C++), and really nothing special.
This is exactly why Java is such a popular language. Java is like a pickup truck; reliable and very practical, but too dull and ugly to ever be someone's dream car. | null | 0 | 1319388429 | False | 0 | c2ts7e4 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2ts7e4 | t1_c2to1u0 | null | 1427771502 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | campbellm | null | Perhaps, but I think that could be due to different circles you and I traveled in. My background is financial application development, mostly server side; even in my the C++ heydays, C was still much revered. | null | 0 | 1319388494 | False | 0 | c2ts7o4 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2ts7o4 | t1_c2trqes | null | 1427771506 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | otherwiseguy | null | Unless you realize that at the start of the project and get copyright (or at least unrestricted royalty free license) assignment before accepting a patch from someone. Many projects do this, including the one I work on: [Asterisk](http://www.asterisk.org). | null | 0 | 1319388651 | False | 0 | c2ts8ay | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2ts8ay | t1_c2ts1xc | null | 1428191383 | 20 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | skulgnome | null | If it isn't your goal to call the GNU GPL "restrictive", you may find it convenient to call the licenses "less permissive" and "more permissive" instead. In comparison to the typical corporate licensing agreement, or copyright law on its own, the GNU GPL is highly permissive. | null | 0 | 1319388731 | False | 0 | c2ts8md | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2ts8md | t1_c2trsgt | null | 1427771519 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | campbellm | null | What replaced COBOL? Nothing, yet; sure there's a lot of stuff that would have been written in COBOL that's now written in Java, but "replaced"... eh. Entrenched languages are never replaced, they just asymptotically approach zero use as people who know how to maintain them die. | null | 0 | 1319388759 | False | 0 | c2ts8r8 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2ts8r8 | t1_c2tp1sn | null | 1427771522 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | wally_fish | null | Yes, the GPL distinguishes between "use" (i.e., someone using the program for its intended purpose), and "derivative work" (someone taking the program, or parts of the program, to create derivative work).
Copyleft licenses are an explicit statement that you consider people who make a proprietary derivative work out of... | null | 0 | 1319388794 | False | 0 | c2ts8vt | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2ts8vt | t1_c2ts0or | null | 1427771524 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | campbellm | null | > The only glimmer of hope is that IBM seems to be seeing the light, as they promised Webshphere 8.5 will be really lightweight and such. But you still have to confess these 1.4 obsessed banks to upgrade :(
Exactly. And my company to nudge them along. So many times our clients look to us for advice, and we give t... | null | 0 | 1319388880 | False | 0 | c2ts993 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2ts993 | t1_c2trkf5 | null | 1427771527 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | robinwholikesjava | null | zloanx, you have some good points.
>1) hard to maintain and lots copy-pasting of SQLs - refactored to views, keeping query optimizations the same
Yes, this can be a good solution, but it can also have problems of its own:
* Need to define views carefully in schemas so people don't create the same view over and ov... | null | 0 | 1319388928 | False | 0 | c2ts9gy | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2ts9gy | t1_c2treuq | null | 1427771538 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ricky_clarkson | null | Some people don't realise, because they don't check the build server, or very cleverly have a filter so that messages from it don't cause a pop-up alert.
It's a jokey way to make sure the person knows quickly. It should fire another dart every hour until they fix it. :) | null | 0 | 1319388968 | False | 0 | c2ts9nh | t3_lkeh0 | null | t1_c2ts9nh | t1_c2tifvx | null | 1427771539 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ifUreadTHISiWin999 | null | Yes, James Cross was my teacher. Graduating this fall. | null | 0 | 1319389044 | False | 0 | c2ts9yz | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2ts9yz | t1_c2tqccl | null | 1427771542 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I honestly didn't read enough of the article to comment on it in general, but:
> We’ve unified these into a singular entry point, with **natural-language syntax** like:
<socket-binding-group name="standard-sockets" default-interface="public">
<socket-binding name="http" port="8080"/>
... | null | 0 | 1319389138 | False | 0 | c2tsadv | t3_llz5l | null | t1_c2tsadv | t3_llz5l | null | 1427771545 | 27 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | robinwholikesjava | null | Things may be different with new hardware. Hardware is now so fast that even slow languages have a chance of executing.
But... people are still doing more complex things with computers. So if things like Python save some typing but runs a 100x times slower, I still want to choose Java, C# of C++.
Just think of it, so... | null | 0 | 1319389277 | False | 0 | c2tsay2 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tsay2 | t1_c2tr263 | null | 1427771548 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rsynnott | null | > Of course you can public domain code, you just have to give up the copyright that you own by default.
It's best to go with a license which grants roughly equivalent rights, instead. Putting things in the public domain is a legal mess, as some countries don't allow it. | null | 0 | 1319389332 | False | 0 | c2tsb69 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsb69 | t1_c2trv5t | null | 1427771551 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | masklinn | null | > And later on, the magic of reflection and generics...
Generics were in 2004, Java had stopped being sexy years before. | null | 0 | 1319389344 | False | 0 | c2tsb85 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tsb85 | t1_c2tqd71 | null | 1427771552 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Sure, I didn't mean otherwise. But what about the twenty other percents? You either have to comply to the GPL, or not use GPL'd stuff. Besides, you'll notice that Shaw it talking about his web server; you don't have to redistribute the source of a GPL server if you don't distribute your application. That's why the titl... | null | 0 | 1319389413 | False | 0 | c2tsbip | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsbip | t1_c2ts1wa | null | 1427771557 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | dtrebbien | null | Yeah, I guess you're right. The license says "redistributions ... must retain". A "redistribution" can refer to a source code archive containing the file. If that archive contains the text of the 2-Clause BSD License in a license block, then the requirement would be satisfied. | null | 0 | 1319389438 | False | 0 | c2tsblx | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsblx | t1_c2ts5x9 | null | 1427771557 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | aaronla | null | Pardon, in this case, "drawEllipse" would implement the "EllipseReceiver" interface:
struct CircleReceiver {
virtual SetRadius(int r) = 0;
}
struct EllipseReceiver : CircleReceiver {
virtual void setAxes(int la, int sa) = 0;
};
struct DrawEllipse : EllipseReceiver {
virtual... | null | 0 | 1319389801 | False | 0 | c2tsd7u | t3_ld12r | null | t1_c2tsd7u | t1_c2tr3e5 | null | 1427771579 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319390167 | True | 0 | c2tset2 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tset2 | t1_c2tsbip | null | 1427771600 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | oditogre | null | I personally *really* dislike the GPL, and prefer BSD and similar licenses, *but*:
>If you do open source, you’re my hero and I support you. If you’re a corporation, let’s talk business.
That's fair; I can completely get behind that mentality. If not straight money, then some sort of compensation - a splash page... | null | 0 | 1319390243 | False | 0 | c2tsf4t | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsf4t | t3_llw0s | null | 1427771604 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | crankybadger | null | Python, as an example, is leagues slower, but PyPy, a new engine, is way, way faster.
JavaScript used to be the slow kid on the block and now it's running circles around everything but the traditional compiled languages.
For other scripting languages, it's just a matter of time to catch up.
In any case, programming ... | null | 0 | 1319390369 | False | 0 | c2tsfor | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tsfor | t1_c2tqm49 | null | 1427771611 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | “Hey, you know there’s this guy Zed who wrote the software I’m using, why don’t we hire him as a consultant?”
I actually did this, but nobody took it very seriously, because we were all very sure that he wouldn't want to work with us. | null | 0 | 1319390377 | False | 0 | c2tsfq7 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsfq7 | t3_llw0s | null | 1427771611 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | That would be great indeed. | null | 0 | 1319390527 | False | 0 | c2tsgdb | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsgdb | t1_c2tset2 | null | 1427771628 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | PreservedKillick | null | > Seriously, it seems very obvious to me that the reason nobody would bother to hire Zed is because of his personality,
Actually, if you ask anyone who has worked with him (or even met him at a conference), he's a super nice guy. Rants on the Internet are not more important than work history and plenty of recommen... | null | 0 | 1319390528 | False | 0 | c2tsgdf | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsgdf | t1_c2truan | null | 1427771628 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | brazen | null | And I'm willing to bet he lost out on a lot of jobs because of his attitude. | null | 0 | 1319390559 | False | 0 | c2tsghe | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsghe | t1_c2trxnp | null | 1427771622 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ninjaroach | null | Because nobody ever contributes back to BSD? Right.. | null | 0 | 1319390601 | False | 0 | c2tsgn8 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsgn8 | t3_llw0s | null | 1427771635 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | raging_hadron | null | Zed Shaw is a time-wasting moron. Why anybody cares about anything he says is beyond me. | null | 0 | 1319390694 | False | 0 | c2tsh1z | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsh1z | t3_llw0s | null | 1427771633 | -8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Kidnapping is a false analogy. _Your_ source code is _not taken away from you_ when someone decides to use the freedom to alter it and not give back. This is the freedom that the BSD/MIT licenses provide that GPL does not. It is _not_ the same as kidnapping. It is what it is.
LGPL is also lacks the same freedom that B... | null | 0 | 1319390755 | False | 0 | c2tshbm | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tshbm | t1_c2trynq | null | 1427771638 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | crankybadger | null | It depends on what you're doing. If it's routine stuff, things you've done a dozen times before, then it's 20% planning, 70% implementation, 10% testing. If it's something you've never done before, a problem outside of your usual domain, then it may be as much as 80% planning, 10% implementation, 10% testing.
The way ... | null | 0 | 1319390813 | False | 0 | c2tshkb | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tshkb | t1_c2tqsyz | null | 1427771640 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | alecco | null | It's not insane. There's an incentive to pick complicated systems to get more billable hours. IBM Global Services and the big shops in India have a very profitable ~~scheme~~ business plan. | null | 0 | 1319390999 | False | 0 | c2tsie8 | t3_llz5l | null | t1_c2tsie8 | t1_c2tsadv | null | 1428191380 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jerf | null | > I'm willing to bet that he got a lot of his jobs from people who knew his code.
He has explicitly said otherwise, and that's the core point he's making. Do you have evidence that he's lying about that? Because there's been plenty of chances for someone to pop up and say "No, we hired him because of his Mongrel wo... | null | 0 | 1319391048 | False | 0 | c2tsim1 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsim1 | t1_c2trxnp | null | 1427771651 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319391104 | False | 0 | c2tsius | t3_ll9io | null | t1_c2tsius | t3_ll9io | null | 1427771654 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | igouy | null | > PiDigits is a bad benchmark because everyone just uses GNU MP ...
good / bad for what purpose?
Good for comparing an SBCL that uses GMP with an [SBCL program that does not use GMP](http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/program.php?test=pidigits&lang=sbcl&id=2).
| null | 0 | 1319391133 | False | 0 | c2tsiz2 | t3_lkpil | null | t1_c2tsiz2 | t1_c2tlg09 | null | 1427771654 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kmeisthax | null | Saying "it's the author's right" is contrary to the spirit of the GPL. | null | 0 | 1319391152 | False | 0 | c2tsj2g | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsj2g | t3_llw0s | null | 1427771657 | -5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ILikeBumblebees | null | I'm not sure what you mean. YC is a VC firm / incubator, and set up HN in part for the the very purpose of discussing topics of relevance to startups. | null | 0 | 1319391203 | False | 0 | c2tsjas | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsjas | t1_c2ts0rh | null | 1427771658 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | That doesn't change the fact that BSD/MIT provide a _freedom_ where the GPL has a _restriction_.
No amount of arguing changes that. Please see my other response to Jasper1984 below.
EDIT: As for the plan? As in the big picture plan of why BSD/MIT style licenses exist? I think they are rooted in reality.
The reality ... | null | 0 | 1319391221 | True | 0 | c2tsjd9 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsjd9 | t1_c2ts1fi | null | 1427771659 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | account512 | null | "As long as you play by the rules of the GPL I don't see a problem?"
The fact that there are any rules makes it messier to work with than something like the MIT license. Statically linking to GPL code is a big legal grey area which is a pain sometimes for distribution purposes.
Hell some people think even dynamically... | null | 0 | 1319391326 | False | 0 | c2tsjtp | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsjtp | t1_c2trv5t | null | 1427771664 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Shaper_pmp | null | > And in other circumstances it offers little protection from "ripping off"
So why do people even bother using the BSD licence, or asking GPL developers to re-licence their code as BSD? If [A|L]GPL offers so little protection it's pointless, what makes it functionally any different to BSD?
> and that's assumin... | null | 0 | 1319391374 | False | 0 | c2tsk1n | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsk1n | t1_c2trh7d | null | 1427771668 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Maybe it is semantic but I don't see licenses giving permission. Think of it this way - if there was no license (or courts of law enforcing them) then I could do *anything* I wanted. I could claim the code as my own and profit from it with no recourse.
In that sense - licenses serve the unique purpose of *restricting*... | null | 0 | 1319391506 | False | 0 | c2tsknm | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsknm | t1_c2ts8md | null | 1427771676 | -7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ehird | null | Data.Array's interface is kind of awful; Vector should really be the standard. Data.Map is alright; HashMap is only necessary if you want the increased performance. | null | 0 | 1319391542 | False | 0 | c2tsktv | t3_lkiol | null | t1_c2tsktv | t1_c2tpojh | null | 1427771678 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | WTFwhatthehell | null | Out of curiosity... if someone wanted to create GPL code but make it as easy as possible for Corporate users who want to pay money to licence it for closed source use what should they do?
Given you'd have to make sure that you were the only contributor and make sure that that side of things is all sorted out first.
... | null | 0 | 1319391784 | False | 0 | c2tslzl | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tslzl | t1_c2trl5p | null | 1427771693 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | reddit_clone | null | I still lament failure of the Applet technology. I think it made too much demand on resources (network, PC performance) at the time.
Had it succeeded, we would have had internet downloadable rich GUI applications without the the current hodgepodge of html, javascript and AJAX. | null | 0 | 1319391810 | False | 0 | c2tsm4j | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tsm4j | t1_c2tpv8t | null | 1427771696 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | pingveno | null | I've gotten the feeling that C is only still around because it is the only language with broad tool support and low level access. Sound right? | null | 0 | 1319391903 | False | 0 | c2tsmjs | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tsmjs | t1_c2tpz4i | null | 1427771701 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ngroot | null | > In that sense - licenses serve the unique purpose of restricting the use of code.
*Copyright law* restricts the use of the code. Licenses undo that restriction. | null | 0 | 1319391914 | False | 0 | c2tsmli | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsmli | t1_c2tsknm | null | 1427771701 | 29 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | Well that depends. What did it look like before? | null | 0 | 1319392022 | False | 0 | c2tsn4a | t3_llz5l | null | t1_c2tsn4a | t1_c2tsadv | null | 1428191379 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Complex does not always mean performance critical.
Code where performance is critical actually tends to be the isolated (i.e. therefore simple) tight loops doing some sort of number crunching.
edit:
If all I was doing was solving problems like these, http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32q/which-programming-languages-... | null | 0 | 1319392090 | True | 0 | c2tsng4 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tsng4 | t1_c2tsay2 | null | 1427771712 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | > The Application Server ships with Hibernate version X in order to provide a JPA runtime. Say your deployment wants to use version Y. In a traditional hierarchical classloading model, classloading delegation would take over and the deployment would actually see the server’s version of these classes, which probably ... | null | 0 | 1319392208 | False | 0 | c2tsnzk | t3_llz5l | null | t1_c2tsnzk | t3_llz5l | null | 1427771719 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ngroot | null | So you didn't have sufficient startup capital to buy something that would have been useful? I don't follow your argument. | null | 0 | 1319392254 | False | 0 | c2tso6v | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tso6v | t1_c2ts0nj | null | 1427771721 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | chippeh | null | He has released Lamson, the project he is writing about in the article as both BSD and GPL, so what he has written is no longer true for him. I would agree with the concepts however. | null | 0 | 1319392287 | False | 0 | c2tsobz | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsobz | t3_llw0s | null | 1427771726 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | My point is that for anybody who doesn't care about advertizing their startup or looking good for PG, all the startup discussion turns into the Noise surrounding an otherwise good Signal.
Its a shame that such a good community with otherwise great discussion is poisoned by its intended purpose. I understand that the ... | null | 0 | 1319392315 | True | 0 | c2tsogd | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsogd | t1_c2tsjas | null | 1427771727 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | FooBarWidget | null | Not at all. The GPL does not force anybody to accept its terms, people can only accept the GPL willingly. | null | 0 | 1319392342 | False | 0 | c2tsol1 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsol1 | t1_c2tsj2g | null | 1427771727 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | This may or may not be considered a "problem". First, it ensures the code is always used in Free Software, which might be the real motivation of the originating author; to remove the temptation to make it non-free software.
In my opinion though, the problem is with the length of terms of copyright. The current minim... | null | 0 | 1319392468 | False | 0 | c2tsp5u | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsp5u | t1_c2ts0or | null | 1427771735 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | ** Problem **
> This is likely the biggest gap in Java EE development. The development lifecycle has us doing:
> •Code code code
> •Run a build
> •Start a server
> •Deploy the stuff from our build
> •Run our tests
> •Repeat
** "Solution" **
> So what we built was the testing platform Ar... | null | 0 | 1319392633 | False | 0 | c2tspy3 | t3_llz5l | null | t1_c2tspy3 | t3_llz5l | null | 1427771745 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | matthieum | null | As much as I like (and follow) the LLVM/Clang project, I would point out that C++ support in Clang was deemed "production ready" less than a year ago. I find fun how Clang's presence stirs other compilers from their sleep (or so it seems). | null | 0 | 1319392651 | False | 0 | c2tsq1c | t3_ll5d1 | null | t1_c2tsq1c | t1_c2tmjwa | null | 1427771746 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jlogelin | null | Small software companies ( especially venture-backed ones ) can't even think about GPL nowadays. Over the past 5 years I have been through 3 acquisitions all leading up to Oracle. During that time, our development effort was almost exclusively ripping out GPL, LGPL, CDDL and EPL libraries and replacing them with BSD, M... | null | 0 | 1319392675 | False | 0 | c2tsq58 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsq58 | t3_llw0s | null | 1427771747 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Copyright is just the root of the restriction tree. No one forces you to claim copyright on your work in the first place.
Like I said, if you come from the mindset "You have no rights at all" only then can you see any legal statement *giving* rights. | null | 0 | 1319392678 | False | 0 | c2tsq5r | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsq5r | t1_c2tsmli | null | 1427771748 | -4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ngroot | null | As far as I'm concerned, the entire point of his article comes down to this one line:
> Why the fuck wouldn’t I charge people money who can’t use the GPL?
The people who "can't use the GPL" are people who want to close the source back up and distribute derivative works of his software for money; essentially, taki... | null | 0 | 1319392693 | False | 0 | c2tsq84 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsq84 | t3_llw0s | null | 1427771748 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | henk53 | null | True, there's a glimmer of hope with PyPy, but let's not get our hopes up too soon. As far as I know it's only about 2x faster than regular Python. I must agree this is very impressive, but it means Python is then 'only' 50x slower instead of 100x slower than Java/C++/C#.
Likewise for javascript. It's performance went... | null | 0 | 1319392750 | False | 0 | c2tsqhy | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tsqhy | t1_c2tsfor | null | 1427771752 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | pnettle | null | Yeah....no. I'm a developer and I would NEVER want to work with Zed. He seems like he'd be a huge pain in the ass to work with.
He'd the be kind of guy that on his first day decides to completely revamp the entire codebase himself 'because its better his way', not giving a fuck about any problems it causes.
Hiring ... | null | 0 | 1319392793 | False | 0 | c2tsqp9 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsqp9 | t1_c2trig2 | null | 1427771754 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | If you are playing with interfaces you don't have IReadOnlyBasket, you use IReadOnlyList (.NET) or IVectorView (C++).
The whole point of having abstract interfaces is that they are generic. You aren't supposed to make a new one for every class under the sun. You just have a handful of carefully designed ones. This is ... | null | 0 | 1319392913 | False | 0 | c2tsra2 | t3_lkpil | null | t1_c2tsra2 | t1_c2tpfjq | null | 1427771761 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | matthieum | null | Auto-completion: http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=3302 ?
Rewriting: http://clang.llvm.org/doxygen/Rewriter_8h_source.html
(example: the ARC migration tool http://clang.llvm.org/doxygen/ARCMT_8cpp_source.html)
An incredible AST, and improving (Abramo Bagnara and Enea Zaffanella being the principal actor... | null | 0 | 1319393006 | False | 0 | c2tsrok | t3_ll5d1 | null | t1_c2tsrok | t1_c2tl51w | null | 1427771766 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ngroot | null | > No one forces you to claim copyright on your work in the first place.
The U.S. government does. Here, at least, your work is automatically copyrighted. Anyone who uses it without a license is exposed to a potential infringement suit. And if you included a note saying that you wouldn't do that...that would be a... | null | 0 | 1319393046 | False | 0 | c2tsruz | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsruz | t1_c2tsq5r | null | 1427771769 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Taladar | null | I seriously believe that nobody who cares about programming languages enough to know more than one or two would consider Java to be a pleasant language to work with. Bearable, sure, something you would call your favorite language, no, not even close. | null | 0 | 1319393054 | False | 0 | c2tsrwp | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tsrwp | t1_c2trslq | null | 1427771769 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Taladar | null | I am confused. Did I recommend Python anywhere in any of my posts? | null | 0 | 1319393096 | False | 0 | c2tss3s | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tss3s | t1_c2tr83o | null | 1427771772 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Kalium | null | No. He didn't. By "no return", it means "Zed saw *no return* on his investment in technology. This means no money, no job offers, etc."
It's not crap. It's true. | null | 0 | 1319393126 | False | 0 | c2tss8q | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tss8q | t1_c2trxnp | null | 1427771774 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | That's why I think Google needs to think about this seriously from step 1. There are lots of places in the .NET framework that should have used DateTimeOffset or IReadOnlyList, and it is now too late to go back and fix them. | null | 0 | 1319393145 | False | 0 | c2tssc8 | t3_lkpil | null | t1_c2tssc8 | t1_c2tobn8 | null | 1427771776 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | WinterAyars | null | Doesn't matter. I could also choose to just not release at all. I am not morally obligated to provide you with the code in the license of your choice.
You are using a definition of "restrict" that is just incoherent. Either i "restrict" you by telling you you can't run off the with code or you "restrict" me by tellin... | null | 0 | 1319393180 | False | 0 | c2tssi3 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tssi3 | t1_c2tsjd9 | null | 1427771778 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | matthieum | null | Which API ?
The C API is normally quite stable.
The C++ AST is constantly being improved, especially in light of C++11 support, so it's less stable of course, but then never really was meant to be. | null | 0 | 1319393190 | False | 0 | c2tssjn | t3_ll5d1 | null | t1_c2tssjn | t1_c2tp1ju | null | 1427771778 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | Thank you. | null | 0 | 1319393224 | False | 0 | c2tssp6 | t3_ll5d1 | null | t1_c2tssp6 | t1_c2tsrok | null | 1427771780 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | Thank you. | null | 0 | 1319393243 | False | 0 | c2tsssj | t3_ll5d1 | null | t1_c2tsssj | t1_c2tp1ju | null | 1427771782 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | twotime | null | a. Is not AJAX (pretty much) a synonym for javascript?
b. you could make a much stronger argument that if Netscape had not tried to ride the "java wave" and instead tried to improve LiveScript, we would have had a much better situation now. | null | 0 | 1319393252 | False | 0 | c2tssu0 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tssu0 | t1_c2tsm4j | null | 1427771782 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | What are you quoting?
And honestly it doesn't really matter what language you're learning in college since most students have little experience programming. Java is really an ideal choice since it's fairly simple. I was simply pointing out that it's a little disappointing since most people who graduate end up sticki... | null | 0 | 1319393295 | False | 0 | c2tst13 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tst13 | t1_c2tpacn | null | 1427771785 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | frownyface | null | The mixed open/closed approach that I think would most suit him would be the "Open core, Closed Extension" route. [Like sqlite](http://www.hwaci.com/sw/sqlite/prosupport.html). | null | 0 | 1319393450 | False | 0 | c2tstqk | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tstqk | t1_c2tqyh9 | null | 1427771794 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | How long ago was Clang started? I know Rosyln was being talked about around the C# 3/VS 9 timeframe. [Side note: It isn't expected to be done until around C# 6/VS 12] | null | 0 | 1319393452 | False | 0 | c2tstr3 | t3_ll5d1 | null | t1_c2tstr3 | t1_c2tsq1c | null | 1427771794 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Kalium | null | He's talking about how people react to his choices about his software. The subject matter, uh, really is all about him. | null | 0 | 1319393587 | False | 0 | c2tsue9 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsue9 | t1_c2ts578 | null | 1427771803 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | Mono's implementation covers what Microsoft is calling the "Scripting Layer". And considering that .NET 1 had runtime code compilation, it isn't really all that interesting compared to the other stuff it offers.
Here is a peek at some of the VS extensions you can write with it.
http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/10/Rosyl... | null | 0 | 1319393641 | False | 0 | c2tsumb | t3_ll5d1 | null | t1_c2tsumb | t1_c2tmh2n | null | 1427771806 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cerebrum | null | I'm just trying to make the point that a lot of startups don't have the money to buy software so if there was only GPL software around they would have a problem. This is in response to Zeds argument "if it is useful then buy it."
| null | 0 | 1319393667 | False | 0 | c2tsuqw | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsuqw | t1_c2tso6v | null | 1427771808 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | robinwholikesjava | null | >and us old crusty set-in-our-ways ones are leaving the field), will become commonplace and "normal".
Ha! :) I can vividly remember the days when objects and OO was seen as something strange that according to the crusty back then was only needed for extremely large systems.
Then 'we' as the youngsters just started... | null | 0 | 1319393709 | False | 0 | c2tsuy4 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tsuy4 | t1_c2tr3ne | null | 1427771811 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319393779 | False | 0 | c2tsv5t | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsv5t | t1_c2tsim1 | null | 1427771814 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | sure but the devs you work with aren't the sort of wanks who care about what tech is "cool" and blog all day about it
they just get the fucking job done which is practically a tagline for C | null | 0 | 1319393820 | False | 0 | c2tsved | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tsved | t1_c2ts7o4 | null | 1427771816 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | frownyface | null | Problem is, because of the way he runs his mouth online, there are plenty of chances for people to say "We _didn't_ hire him because we don't want a prima donna drama queen on our team, especially not one that has a track record of seriously bad mouthing everybody they are around, which would be us if we hire him." | null | 0 | 1319393822 | False | 0 | c2tsvey | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsvey | t1_c2tsim1 | null | 1428191377 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | >So why do people even bother using the BSD licence, or asking GPL developers to re-licence their code as BSD? If [A|L]GPL offers so little protection it's pointless, what makes it functionally any different to BSD?
Perceived value and community ? I doubt that there's business logic to it in most cases, tough it ha... | null | 0 | 1319393923 | False | 0 | c2tsvyi | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsvyi | t1_c2tsk1n | null | 1427771826 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | That's actually the most recent example I've seen, which I was thinking of specifically. Thanks :)
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PS "wah wah wah people are obeying the terms of my license T_T" | null | 0 | 1319394033 | False | 0 | c2tswfv | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tswfv | t1_c2trz55 | null | 1427771832 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | You are making a mistake between being "granted" copyright and claiming it. If someone steals your work no one is forcing you to take them to court.
Lets try another approach. Imagine I license my software to you: I provide you a guaranteed indemnity against me suing you as long as you follow certain guidelines. I rea... | null | 0 | 1319394103 | False | 0 | c2tswr7 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tswr7 | t1_c2tsruz | null | 1427771835 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | >if there was no license (or courts of law enforcing them) then I could do anything I wanted
You have it backwards. If there was no license, you couldn't do anything at all without the copyright holder's permission.
>No one forces you to claim copyright on your work in the first place.
In general, yes, they do... | null | 0 | 1319394107 | False | 0 | c2tsws1 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsws1 | t1_c2tsq5r | null | 1427771835 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | grauenwolf | null | They can't, it would require a breaking change to the CLR itself.
Java fucked this up and the CLR was designed to run Java, so the CLR fucked it up too.
I think they should make the "implicit reference conversion" a compiler warning for a number of reasons. | null | 0 | 1319394153 | False | 0 | c2tswz1 | t3_ll9io | null | t1_c2tswz1 | t1_c2tql5b | null | 1427771838 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kmeisthax | null | Here's the thing: "it's the author's right" is the justification for proprietary software. The GPL rejects that. In fact, the GPL specifically says it's *not* the author's right to make proprietary software out of a free software project. Simple-permissive licenses are the ones that preserve author's rights in totality... | null | 0 | 1319394218 | False | 0 | c2tsx9r | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsx9r | t1_c2tsol1 | null | 1427771842 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | badsectoracula | null | > Copyright 2011 ABC Corp, Inc. All rights reserved
*what* is copyrighted? These things usually also mention what is copyrighted.
In any case, it hasn't been found as a problem by multibillion companies with big armies of lawyers, such as Microsoft, IBM, Apple, etc, so i highly doubt that it is a problem. | null | 0 | 1319394299 | False | 0 | c2tsxn2 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tsxn2 | t1_c2trq3i | null | 1427771846 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Bad benchmark for comparing language implementations. GNU MP has highly tuned algorithms written in assembler, so everyone just uses that. The top-scoring C/Java entries also use GNU MP. | null | 0 | 1319394323 | False | 0 | c2tsxqs | t3_lkpil | null | t1_c2tsxqs | t1_c2tsiz2 | null | 1428191374 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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