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True | eevar | null | He's not right or wrong. He has an opinion, and he's entitled to that.
Would Mongrel have gone anywhere as AGPL? -- I have no idea. | null | 0 | 1319372592 | False | 0 | c2tqv8b | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqv8b | t1_c2tqlus | null | 1427770790 | 29 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | oSand | null | Tangus old chap, I wager I can pass Mr. Shaw off as a member of polite society... | null | 0 | 1319372617 | False | 0 | c2tqva0 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqva0 | t1_c2tqohg | null | 1428191411 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | The GPL clearly states what kind of reciprocity is expected. It's the whole point of the article. Did you even read it? | null | 0 | 1319372741 | False | 0 | c2tqvij | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqvij | t1_c2tqh7w | null | 1427770795 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | dtrebbien | null | He makes a number of valid arguments quite convincingly.
A lot of people think that BSD-style licenses and the MIT License are "permissive", but I have not liked them for one simple reason: there seems to be a weird legal issue with them if you want to contribute or modify the source code and distribute it under a dif... | null | 0 | 1319372797 | True | 0 | c2tqvm1 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqvm1 | t3_llw0s | null | 1427770795 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | henk53 | null | >Java doesn't need to be cool and like that, its functional, it just needs cleaning up of warts in the language that have accrued over the many many years its been developed.
Indeed. At least for the standard Java library, it seems there are a lot of efforts in cleaning up the old stuff. Although I agree it's much ... | null | 0 | 1319372972 | False | 0 | c2tqvxv | t3_l55ki | null | t1_c2tqvxv | t1_c2q3bjy | null | 1427770800 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | somethinghorrible | null | GPL3, no ("Mere interaction with a user through a computer network, with no transfer of a copy, is not conveying.").
AGPL3, yes. ("if you modify the Program, your modified version must prominently offer all users interacting with it remotely through a computer network (if your version supports such interaction) an opp... | null | 0 | 1319372989 | False | 0 | c2tqvyy | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqvyy | t1_c2tqk0i | null | 1427770799 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Don't have to consult a lawyer for the GPL either. Just share the code. | null | 0 | 1319372995 | True | 0 | c2tqvza | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqvza | t1_c2tqs1b | null | 1427770799 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | project2501a | null | but those licenses do not force the people to disclose the software they use. Ergo, the GPL forces people to pay up. Capitalism, aight?
fuck the dream, give me money. | null | 0 | 1319372996 | False | 0 | c2tqvzf | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqvzf | t1_c2tqlzw | null | 1427770799 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jediknight | null | dude, it's Sunday. People have hangovers and such.
Also... things get upvoted and downvoted for no valid reason.
The article looks interesting. Try reposting it tomorrow. | null | 0 | 1319373058 | False | 0 | c2tqw42 | t3_llq5f | null | t1_c2tqw42 | t1_c2tqpkd | null | 1427770810 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | And the reason you don't want to share code is not selfish in the same respect? | null | 0 | 1319373100 | False | 0 | c2tqw6t | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqw6t | t1_c2tqrm5 | null | 1427770802 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319373147 | False | 0 | c2tqwa0 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tqwa0 | t1_c2tqm6e | null | 1427770804 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | AeroNotix | null | Oh god it's so true. I generally don't wear a rubber either...
EDIT: I use Python every god-damned day. | null | 0 | 1319373298 | True | 0 | c2tqwkd | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tqwkd | t1_c2tpzcg | null | 1427770807 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I've already [argued this](http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/llw0s/zed_shaw_on_gpl/c2tqkw3), GPL is sub-optimal at both forcing people to pay up and being useful and there are economic reasons why one would use BSD like license. | null | 0 | 1319373339 | False | 0 | c2tqwnb | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqwnb | t1_c2tqvzf | null | 1427770819 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MarshallBanana | null | Shannon's definition of entropy is for a "variable".
If you have a stream of data, the question becomes, what exactly *is* the "variable"? The naïve answer is "an individual byte", but this turns out to not be very useful. It is trivially easy to construct a stream of individual bytes with very high entropy when taken... | null | 0 | 1319373351 | False | 0 | c2tqwo7 | t3_lkma3 | null | t1_c2tqwo7 | t1_c2tqukj | null | 1427770809 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I just think ... if you build open source core language or core libraries you cant expect money or credit from companies that use them. In the C++ world the open source boost libraries are used in most commercial projects. I wouldn't be surprised if part of its been to Mars. I cant imagine any of the writers of these l... | null | 0 | 1319373375 | False | 0 | c2tqwq0 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqwq0 | t1_c2tqs33 | null | 1427770809 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | wally_fish | null | The GPL and its cousins never restrict how you can use code: you're free to peruse it and to execute it, for any purpose whatsoever. Even AGPL'ed code is usable by anyone who is interested in it, independent of whether it is in a commercial or non-commercial interest.
Aristotle wouldn't be widely read today if he hadn... | null | 0 | 1319373558 | False | 0 | c2tqx2p | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqx2p | t1_c2tqs1b | null | 1427770814 | 57 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | caiokat | null | Who said I don't want to share code? Read again. | null | 0 | 1319373581 | False | 0 | c2tqx41 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqx41 | t1_c2tqw6t | null | 1427770814 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ropers | null | > The other reason I love writing email software is nobody else does.
[\**cough\**](http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=smtpd&sektion=8) | null | 0 | 1319373650 | False | 0 | c2tqx88 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqx88 | t3_llw0s | null | 1427770816 | -6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319373809 | False | 0 | c2tqxj2 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqxj2 | t1_c2tqvm1 | null | 1427770821 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | archivator | null | Right, I see. Thanks for that! | null | 0 | 1319373825 | False | 0 | c2tqxk0 | t3_lkma3 | null | t1_c2tqxk0 | t1_c2tqwo7 | null | 1427770821 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | If you share code your code then the GPL is simple and permissive. I guess you still have to worry about the eclipse license. | null | 0 | 1319373826 | False | 0 | c2tqxk6 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqxk6 | t1_c2tqx41 | null | 1427770821 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | That's it, I'm relicensing all my GitHub repos again... | null | 0 | 1319373877 | False | 0 | c2tqxnn | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqxnn | t3_llw0s | null | 1428191408 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ropers | null | I don't think formulating the topic of a submission works the way you think it does. | null | 0 | 1319373880 | False | 0 | c2tqxnx | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqxnx | t1_c2tqrez | null | 1428191408 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Aelar | null | Which is why he's licensing it GPL :) | null | 0 | 1319373971 | False | 0 | c2tqxug | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqxug | t1_c2tqs6k | null | 1427770824 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ropers | null | tl;dr: Money poisons everything. /HHOS | null | 0 | 1319374051 | False | 0 | c2tqy0f | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqy0f | t3_llw0s | null | 1427770829 | -6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Jasper1984 | null | People forget that the clauses in the GPL that annoy them are the same clauses that protect the continued development of the software in a libre fashion.
It is like they want to live in a free society, but they want the right to kidnap..
The dual licensing scheme seems to work for some companies, and there seems litt... | null | 0 | 1319374149 | False | 0 | c2tqy8x | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqy8x | t3_llw0s | null | 1427770833 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319374222 | False | 0 | c2tqydv | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqydv | t1_c2tqghj | null | 1427770835 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | fernandoacorreia | null | To me this is one of the most relevant articles Zed Shaw has written. He clearly states a problem that's affecting the whole software industry and explains his strategy to dealing with it. Incidentally, he's a great guy for not going the "closed core" route that many companies take.
Edit: my bad, that's what I meant -... | null | 0 | 1319374266 | True | 0 | c2tqyh9 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqyh9 | t3_llw0s | null | 1427770835 | 55 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MarshallBanana | null | The hard part is generating the coordinate list in the first place, and calculating the lighting for it. | null | 0 | 1319374304 | False | 0 | c2tqyk9 | t3_lkyt0 | null | t1_c2tqyk9 | t1_c2tqq9w | null | 1427770836 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Taladar | null | Well, I don't know about the birth of Java (wasn't it born Oak and then renamed Java later on) but it was pretty bad back when I first used it around 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 and it only added a few more reasonable features at a glacial pace since then.
To be honest Java never convinced technical people via merit, as I recall... | null | 0 | 1319374567 | False | 0 | c2tqz3k | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tqz3k | t1_c2tqv56 | null | 1427770840 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mikehaggard | null | It's like a nest of angry hornets that comes buzzing toward every Java article.
Or perhaps it's better in this case to talk about a group of poisonous snakes. Somehow a group of Python users have found /r/programming to be their base and they are sort-of dictating here what's cool and what isn't :( | null | 0 | 1319374682 | False | 0 | c2tqzb9 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tqzb9 | t1_c2tnet2 | null | 1427770842 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | psed | null | Very cool. Thanks for pointing it out! | null | 0 | 1319374769 | False | 0 | c2tqzio | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tqzio | t1_c2tqohg | null | 1427770843 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mikehaggard | null | >A good programmer with some breadth of experience should be able to pick up most languages in a week
Just as with natural languages. Every good writer should be able to pick up a new language in one week and write excellent short-stories or poems using that language.
Oh wait... this doesn't happen... | null | 0 | 1319374771 | False | 0 | c2tqziq | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tqziq | t1_c2tnix1 | null | 1427770843 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | > How is that not "copyleft"?
Because you're allowed to redistribute the code and modifications in binary form, where GPL-style licenses enforce redistribution of source code.
I really don't see the "weird legal issue" you're seeing in the BSD license. To me, it's much more clear than any GPL license because it's ... | null | 0 | 1319375069 | False | 0 | c2tr04v | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr04v | t1_c2tqvm1 | null | 1427770850 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Taladar | null | Personally I think the middle ranks show much more clearly why TIOBE data can not be taken seriously.
They claim stuff like 0.9% of all code is written in PL/SQL and another 0.9% in Transact-SQL yet miraculously no other SQL dialect appears in their rankings (I would argue that DSLs like SQL don't belong in there any... | null | 0 | 1319375147 | False | 0 | c2tr0az | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr0az | t1_c2tqod2 | null | 1427770853 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | fernandoacorreia | null | He probably changed his views somewhat. Lamson was [release under BSD](http://lamsonproject.org/blog/2010-07-07.html) on 2010-07-07. [Mongrel2 is BSD](http://mongrel2.org/wiki/license.html).
Edit: Lamson was optionally released as BSD in addition to GPL. | null | 0 | 1319375212 | True | 0 | c2tr0g6 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr0g6 | t3_llw0s | null | 1427770854 | 110 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | JohnStrangerGalt | null | If you want to advertise use the targeted slots reddit offers. | null | 0 | 1319375274 | False | 0 | c2tr0kv | t3_llwhb | null | t1_c2tr0kv | t3_llwhb | null | 1427770855 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ErstwhileRockstar | null | >> the unwritten contract: If I give, you give.
Did you even read it? This contract has *never* existed. Neither in GPL nor other prominent licenses.
| null | 0 | 1319375309 | False | 0 | c2tr0n7 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr0n7 | t1_c2tqvij | null | 1427770857 | -4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mikehaggard | null | >But you, you little piss ant think you can "learn it" in a week? Fuck you.
Amen! Finally someone who dares to go against this stupid myth that any good programmer can learn any language in just a week! | null | 0 | 1319375406 | False | 0 | c2tr0ui | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr0ui | t1_c2tpkze | null | 1427770859 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | orbat | null | > Haskell is the elegant, whimsical, blonde mistress with whom everything is as easy as if it were a dream.
Unfortunately she won't date anyone who doesn't have a math degree and she only speaks an obscure dialect of Rhaeto-Romansch. | null | 0 | 1319375531 | True | 0 | c2tr14l | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr14l | t1_c2tph5e | null | 1427770863 | 18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | philh | null | Selfish in the same way as "I'll be your employee only if you give me a salary".
My attitude towards the code I write is: do what you like with it, don't even feel like you need to credit me if you don't want. I dislike when politics of any form gets in the way of people doing cool things; I hope that some day people ... | null | 0 | 1319375744 | False | 0 | c2tr1lj | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr1lj | t1_c2tqrm5 | null | 1427770871 | 14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rpd9803 | null | Selfish would be I won't give you anything regardless of whether or not you give me something. I give-you give is at best egalitarian | null | 0 | 1319375757 | False | 0 | c2tr1mj | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr1mj | t1_c2tqrm5 | null | 1427770871 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | wolf550e | null | All this stuff is old and has been in Java SE 6 for a long time. | null | 0 | 1319375829 | False | 0 | c2tr1se | t3_llz44 | null | t1_c2tr1se | t3_llz44 | null | 1427770872 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | WordsmithJr | null | no trying to advertise, interested in collaborating with programmers to create marketing/programming jokes into a sketch comedy show | null | 0 | 1319375889 | False | 0 | c2tr1xq | t3_llwhb | null | t1_c2tr1xq | t1_c2tr0kv | null | 1427770874 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | > *The free in free software stands for freedom and not free of charge.*
What's that saying. *If you don't like a word, change its meaning.* | null | 0 | 1319375941 | False | 0 | c2tr21j | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr21j | t1_c2tqlus | null | 1427770875 | -22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | > It's not like Lisp is this brand new thing that still has to prove itself. It predates pretty much everything that's on the market today, but it still isn't widely popular. Why do you think this is?
Lisp was too slow or needed expensive custom hardware to run fast enough. So people used non-Lisp for hardware reas... | null | 0 | 1319376005 | False | 0 | c2tr263 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr263 | t1_c2tqla3 | null | 1427770877 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319376097 | False | 0 | c2tr2de | t3_lih10 | null | t1_c2tr2de | t1_c2sz4f4 | null | 1427770879 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | invertedshadow | null | The effect was achieved through the use of a program on a computer. I'm interested in the processes used to create it. | null | 0 | 1319376135 | False | 0 | c2tr2gd | t3_lih10 | null | t1_c2tr2gd | t1_c2t05zu | null | 1427770880 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | yeswecould | null | You should probably add that the theme isn't client-side malware in the traditional sense where it would try to gain hardware access to your iOS device but a server-side malware that transforms the content of a website in such a way that it's more annoying to read. | null | 0 | 1319376147 | False | 0 | c2tr2h0 | t3_llkkn | null | t1_c2tr2h0 | t1_c2tqm81 | null | 1427770880 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | dgerard | null | Companies that ask for GPL software as BSD are (generally) whiny little bitches.
Companies that contribute changes back are (a) (generally) treated as heroes (b) get the shit they directly need actually fixed. | null | 0 | 1319376198 | False | 0 | c2tr2lr | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr2lr | t3_llw0s | null | 1427770882 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Timmmmbob | null | Wtf, I signed up but never got an email about this starting... Dammit. | null | 0 | 1319376271 | False | 0 | c2tr2s5 | t3_llsqm | null | t1_c2tr2s5 | t3_llsqm | null | 1427770884 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Timmmmbob | null | Yeah me too and now it looks like you can't enrol. Somewhat dickish of them... | null | 0 | 1319376392 | False | 0 | c2tr32k | t3_llsqm | null | t1_c2tr32k | t1_c2tq708 | null | 1427770888 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | eevar | null | Apparently, Zed himself [isn't entirely convinced either](http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/llw0s/zed_shaw_on_gpl/c2tr0g6). | null | 0 | 1319376494 | False | 0 | c2tr3ba | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr3ba | t1_c2tqv8b | null | 1427770891 | 34 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Twitter uses Scala and Clojure. | null | 0 | 1319376518 | False | 0 | c2tr3e2 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr3e2 | t1_c2tpiql | null | 1427770892 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | __j_random_hacker | null | Thanks, but I'm a bit confused by your example of `drawEllipse()` under resolution #3 -- are you intending this to be another method in both interfaces (`circle` and `ellipse`)? Because if you mean a free function (say, `void drawEllipse(ellipse const& e)`) then it seems to me that the point is moot since, assumin... | null | 0 | 1319376519 | False | 0 | c2tr3e5 | t3_ld12r | null | t1_c2tr3e5 | t1_c2tbzvd | null | 1427770892 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | campbellm | null | You could very well be correct, but... almost every language that isn't written specifically to be a joke (brainfuck, befunge, piet, etc.) provides ideas, idioms, and new ways of thinking about /something/. Rails isn't a language, as such, but its ideas about DSL's usefulness we see creeping into all sorts of places.... | null | 0 | 1319376628 | False | 0 | c2tr3ne | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr3ne | t1_c2tpvr6 | null | 1427770895 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jasonlotito | null | No meaning is being changed. Free has different definitions. Being clear about what definition you are using doesn't change anything. | null | 0 | 1319376699 | False | 0 | c2tr3ts | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr3ts | t1_c2tr21j | null | 1427770899 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Of course it has. I give you the source, and if you want to use it, you have to too. | null | 0 | 1319376723 | False | 0 | c2tr3w5 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr3w5 | t1_c2tr0n7 | null | 1427770899 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | campbellm | null | You're right in general, but it's not universal. I work in a field writing software for financial institutions, and they *LOOOOOOVE* J2EE. Not even J2EE v3. The saying is "Banks Love IBM", and they are very, very hard to move, even when IBM (who is no speed demon on keeping current), sunsets "old" tech.
Banks I'm w... | null | 0 | 1319376890 | False | 0 | c2tr4aa | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr4aa | t1_c2tqje6 | null | 1427770904 | 17 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mushishi | null | You are talking about "giving back", "competitive advantage" and how money should go to the original authors; and about how people in the past were provided by funding, and thus were enabled to do interesting work. I think this kind of thinking is the root of our problems as a humanity. Why do most people want to optim... | null | 0 | 1319376958 | True | 0 | c2tr4gv | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr4gv | t1_c2tqx2p | null | 1427770909 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Angstweevil | null | Well apparently, the dr bit is certainly correct | null | 0 | 1319377055 | False | 0 | c2tr4py | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr4py | t1_c2tqy0f | null | 1427770910 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Angstweevil | null | You're potentially losing the improvements that others subsequently make to your code. That can be a substantial loss. | null | 0 | 1319377168 | False | 0 | c2tr4zq | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr4zq | t1_c2tqos3 | null | 1427770921 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jfdube75 | null | Turned off, thanks for the notice. | null | 0 | 1319377188 | False | 0 | c2tr51e | t3_llkkn | null | t1_c2tr51e | t1_c2tqm81 | null | 1427770921 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | hetmankp | null | The people who started the free sotware movement may beg to differ: http://www.fsf.org/ | null | 0 | 1319377327 | False | 0 | c2tr5dj | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr5dj | t1_c2tr21j | null | 1427770919 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | campbellm | null | You had me till "putri"... ;-) | null | 0 | 1319377365 | False | 0 | c2tr5gz | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr5gz | t1_c2tqq1d | null | 1427770921 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | This is awesome - I don't necessarily agree with him, but it's so much better than the little crybabies that do release their things BSD/MIT and then get pissy when people use it in some way they don't like. He's like, "I don't like how people used it, so I'm doing it different now." | null | 0 | 1319377402 | False | 0 | c2tr5jp | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr5jp | t3_llw0s | null | 1427770924 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Shaper_pmp | null | That's a fair point. I'm genuinely torn on the issue of whether some small recognition in your industry *is* ("reasonably, morally") enough though.
Certainly if people are using your code and making nothing from doing so, recognition is the only currency involved, so it's more than enough.
Likewise, if people are us... | null | 0 | 1319377433 | False | 0 | c2tr5mt | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr5mt | t1_c2tqwq0 | null | 1427770924 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | TheChiefRedditor | null | If the manager (the person who IS in the position to get rid of somebody who is below par) is himself/herself not in a position to KNOW who the sub-par performers are, then how does that manager know to get rid of them? The people who do know who the good and bad folks are usually are the other developers but they usua... | null | 0 | 1319377529 | True | 0 | c2tr5v5 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr5v5 | t1_c2tps1j | null | 1427770928 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | hetmankp | null | There's nothing stopping you also distributing a list of contributors in addition to the licence text. | null | 0 | 1319377601 | False | 0 | c2tr61b | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr61b | t1_c2tqvm1 | null | 1428191408 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | nhpip | null | I agree. I've programmed mostly in C, C++, Python and Erlang; but until this past few weeks I've avoided Java. As you said the language seems ok, probably easier than C++, but all this damned crap that appears to be forced on you is too much. I'm sure all these libraries and frameworks are great, but having to configur... | null | 0 | 1319377658 | False | 0 | c2tr668 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr668 | t1_c2to1u0 | null | 1427770931 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ErstwhileRockstar | null | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html | null | 0 | 1319377700 | False | 0 | c2tr69u | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr69u | t1_c2tr3w5 | null | 1427770930 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | campbellm | null | Unless you're DHH. | null | 0 | 1319377953 | False | 0 | c2tr6x9 | t3_llx97 | null | t1_c2tr6x9 | t3_llx97 | null | 1427770940 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Stormflux | null | Did you really just say generics -- (one of the most useful things ever) -- are stupid?
Let me get this straight. You *want* the List<T> class to go away? &#3232;\_&#3232;
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True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319377998 | False | 0 | c2tr71n | t3_llx97 | null | t1_c2tr71n | t1_c2tquyl | null | 1427770941 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Shaper_pmp | null | This is also why open-source software (OSS) is sometimes known as "Free (libre)" (or **FL**OSS), as opposed to "Free (beer)".
Libre means "free" in the sense of "freedom". "Free" in the sense of "free beer" means "without cost".
Just because *libre* software *often* has no cost doesn't mean is necessarily free-like-... | null | 0 | 1319378159 | False | 0 | c2tr7gu | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr7gu | t1_c2tr3ts | null | 1427770947 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Unomagan | null | This could have many reasons: First, we are like lemmings, we do what others do, and it is more easy to find devs for a language which is more popular. | null | 0 | 1319378241 | False | 0 | c2tr7os | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr7os | t1_c2tq06a | null | 1427770950 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319378327 | False | 0 | c2tr7wm | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr7wm | t1_c2tqwnb | null | 1427770951 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mikehaggard | null | >Choosing Java for a project right now means you will have to staff it with people who have absolutely no interest in improving their toolset
But choosing Python for a project right now means you will have to staff it with people who are absolutely full of themselves and act aggressively towards anyone who doesn't ... | null | 0 | 1319378401 | False | 0 | c2tr83o | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr83o | t1_c2tqbzf | null | 1427770955 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | internetinsomniac | null | Can't really fault the logic there, it makes perfect sense, and of course even if it didn't he'd be perfectly entitled to anyway.
As an added bonus that he doesn't mention: If users are paying for the software/service, they're less likely to be whiny and entitled when receiving support for said software/service than i... | null | 0 | 1319378435 | False | 0 | c2tr86l | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr86l | t3_llw0s | null | 1427770956 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | orbat | null | Whoa, did Clojure kill your entire family or something? | null | 0 | 1319378441 | False | 0 | c2tr86x | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr86x | t1_c2tpql8 | null | 1427770956 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | henk53 | null | Nevertheless was it developed for Java 7 and then constantly back-ported since Java 7 just wasn't released.
It's also nice to have everything together in a single overview. Previously explanation of some of those things were in obscure places like deep inside the release notes of some JDK6u-something update.
Some of ... | null | 0 | 1319378582 | False | 0 | c2tr8k5 | t3_llz44 | null | t1_c2tr8k5 | t1_c2tr1se | null | 1427770970 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Shaper_pmp | null | > you share maintenance/testing and development costs between all contributors and everyone has an incentive to push upstream because that way their changes get supported by main branch.
Awww, that's cute.
Having worked for several different companies in different areas of the software industry, I can state with e... | null | 0 | 1319378613 | False | 0 | c2tr8n1 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr8n1 | t1_c2tqlvh | null | 1427770961 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | henk53 | null | At least someone is paying attention ;) :P | null | 0 | 1319378630 | False | 0 | c2tr8oq | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tr8oq | t1_c2tr5gz | null | 1427770963 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | oobey | null | Oh look, Zed is starting to realize why Open Source is doomed in the long term. It's called the Free Rider Problem. | null | 0 | 1319378697 | False | 0 | c2tr8w7 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr8w7 | t3_llw0s | null | 1427770966 | -7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kixx | null | Yes, there's a potential loss there. So you use GPL and the improvements are guaranteed to be lost! Improvements aren't even made in the first place because people are hindered by the license.
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True | kryptkpr | null | Why bothering with licensing at all then? Just release everything into the public domain ..
I personally use the GPL for one very simple reason: if someone improved my code, I want to see what they did so that I can a) learn and b) improve the project for all other users.
If this makes me a selfish jerk who's at the... | null | 0 | 1319378755 | False | 0 | c2tr914 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr914 | t1_c2tr4gv | null | 1427770967 | 28 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | joesb | null | That's still not what I consider getting ripped off. | null | 0 | 1319379028 | False | 0 | c2tr9s0 | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2tr9s0 | t1_c2tr4zq | null | 1427770991 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | nhpip | null | That's crazy. It's a big problem for recruitment. Teach kids C first, then something like Prolog or Lisp and maybe C++ or basic assembly. Once they have the basics of how computers work, how to program down at the machine level, different programming methodologies (functional, procedural, OOP) then introduce Java, C# e... | null | 0 | 1319379109 | False | 0 | c2tra01 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tra01 | t1_c2tnmux | null | 1427770985 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | midir | null | >Just because it has a computer in it doesn't make it programming. | null | 0 | 1319379137 | False | 0 | c2tra2o | t3_lih10 | null | t1_c2tra2o | t1_c2tr2gd | null | 1427770985 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | joesb | null | And the idea that if you are not getting something it means you are losing it is quite a wired one. | null | 0 | 1319379267 | False | 0 | c2trafd | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2trafd | t1_c2tr4zq | null | 1427770992 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319379270 | False | 0 | c2trafs | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2trafs | t1_c2tr4zq | null | 1427770992 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | gadgetsan | null | Oracle still sued Android for using it | null | 0 | 1319379325 | False | 0 | c2trakv | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2trakv | t1_c2tpa3m | null | 1427770995 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bluedanieru | null | Is there anyone in this world driving around in a Maserati they paid for with money they made using shit that you built and gave away for free?
It's not even a question of noble ideals, even, or it doesn't have to be. Who do you think can do more with the money he does make, the guy who did a lot of the building or th... | null | 0 | 1319379418 | False | 0 | c2trati | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2trati | t1_c2tr4gv | null | 1427770997 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Darkhack | null | Red Hat and their $900 million in revenue would like to have a word with you.
Developers don't give away the software because they can't get paid. They simply choose to. Some do it as a hobby and aren't interested in being paid. Others make money on selling add-ons, services, etc. | null | 0 | 1319379447 | False | 0 | c2trawh | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2trawh | t1_c2tqjrd | null | 1427770997 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I know that this model functions for a lot of OSS, like WebKit, LLVM/Clang etc. I also know that three energy companies, who are otherwise competitors, decided to develop tools/software as a cooperative project to reduce development/maintenance costs and avoid duplicating work. | null | 0 | 1319379568 | False | 0 | c2trb8i | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2trb8i | t1_c2tr8n1 | null | 1427771002 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | SeriousWorm | null | Try scala. It runs on the JVM and is compatible with existing Java classes. It has none of the verbosity of Java. | null | 0 | 1319379586 | False | 0 | c2trbah | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2trbah | t1_c2tpn2y | null | 1427771002 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bloodredsun | null | Indeed.com do a far better job trend graph | null | 0 | 1319380365 | False | 0 | c2trdrx | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2trdrx | t1_c2tmudr | null | 1427771032 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | LegacyAngel | null | I am in Georgia. This is true. 90% of my fellow programmers are idiots. All of them think C++ is too old to be good. | null | 0 | 1319380703 | False | 0 | c2tret1 | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2tret1 | t1_c2tneco | null | 1428191402 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | zlonax | null | Thanks for answering. I found something new for me, but some topics remain.
>> And then people starting using these methods in loops, and your DB server is down
> But isn't that true for a JDBC implementation as well?
No, because if project uses manually-tuned large SQLs, all programmers by default must kno... | null | 0 | 1319380721 | True | 0 | c2treuq | t3_lle7t | null | t1_c2treuq | t1_c2tqv7c | null | 1428191402 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | project2501a | null | as zed says, my usefulness may not be your usefulness: usefulness in a commercial environment has been equated of taking good code for no money. I really agree with zed's "pay up for a commercial license" and "no, it's not me who cannot code, it's you who are incapable of producing anything"
*edit: english.ko segfaul... | null | 0 | 1319380794 | True | 0 | c2trf2u | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2trf2u | t1_c2tqoj8 | null | 1427771063 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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