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00 am, principles of liberty is going to be having their first of the season training class on how to evaluate legislation.
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but they start at the very basics and they go all the way through it, teach you how to
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break it down, what to look for, how to- when i go into a supermarket, i see employee of the month and i think, "i hope they at least get a good parking space out of it."
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i played a comedian who was educating people about hiv.
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i mean, that's crazy. i know, right? it's so fascinating. were you taller than all the men in the show?
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and i go, "jeannie, there's a name for it." she's like-
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they can't see
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when you talk about you can't see the face, it's a literal interpretation of that where like ... did you see the masely brothers, the big ed and little ed?
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cynthia nixon with uta hagen? uh-huh (affirmative). i said,
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hagan and she's like, "it's hagen." and then he just died. yes. yes and i actually rented his apartment
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years ago from him. he had a tiny studio for writing that i rented up when i was doing grease on broadway
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and became friendly with him and that is one of my favorite documentaries. i think it's the best documentary kind of ever made. it was the beginning of reality tv.
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it created a whole new genre, both in journalism
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and absolutely in documentary films. and that they nurtured all of these younger documentary filmmakers who hopefully pronounce their names-
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grey gardens? no, i definitely did not. with christine ebersole
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and mary louise wilson both won the tony award for the performance.
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it was stupendous. it was almost like channeling, not even acting.
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and they both are singers. and that was an amazing book and a great score. and i think anything christine ebersole does, they should give her a tony.
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with broadway and we'll talk about your love for it.
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it's just the problem with broadway, it's like every single nerve gets, yeah, you're right. i agree.
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and you know, talk about a cathartic experience
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for somebody. but it's just so expensive that it's really hard to get to go see things.
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yeah. it's become really elitist and it's really sad. i have a school here
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but we get those kids to go to see broadway shows and sadly, we've had to purchase all the tickets.
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so, part of the cost of running this whole event is that these children who live in the theater district and never get to see the shows. it's like being in hawaii, living near the beach and never getting to go in.
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so, we get them to actually go see what it is that's going on in their neighborhood that they're living amongst but never getting to experience but we have to pay for them as well. so, it's
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sustainable because here we are and it's thriving and things are really,
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the industry itself, i don't think is set up to perpetuate its longevity.
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i apologize. i didn't mean to interrupt you but what i meant by unsustainable is that if there is not a rosie o'donnell in place who happens to be a philanthropic, those kids don't get to go to the theater.
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oh, well, that's true. i think the organization that we have built for the last 15 years, i think it is, 12, 13,
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is really needed and i wish there could be more. and we work with the board of ed and we go into the most needy schools based on free lunch.
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so, there's definitely a need for arts programs in new york city and across the country and many states have asked us to replicate it. but
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it's specific in my opinion to new york and although we took the premise and the prototype from dropped and paused dance america,
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he's an amazing dancer and choreographer who goes around the world, teaching dance to
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people in the appalachian mountains to people in other countries.
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we took what he did and we replicated it, only changed it to musical theater not just dance.
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i'm so glad he's teaching people in the appalachian mountains who already are desperate needy for job skills.
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same with your childhood because you sort of fell into standup, it seems like, but you really wanted to be on what you saw on broadway?
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yes, clams on the half shell, 1973, i believe it was. i was 10 or 11, i know my mother had died so it was after march '73.
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and i remember just looking at her and thinking, "i want to be her," not i want to be like her, i wanted to do an i dream of jeannie,
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like fold my arms in front of me and blink and become bette midler because i had never seen a live performer
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with that kind of light, electricity and talent. i had never seen anything like it.
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touring companies of george m. cohan at westbury music fairs as a child, joel gray.
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yeah, that was amazing. but this was in george m. cohan,
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that was a show. give my regards to broadway, i believe was in that. but
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i had never seen a performer like bette midler. so, that was the beginning. and then, she had three backup singers called harlettes.
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and so in my mind, i thought, "well, i'm not really a good singer but i bet i could be one of her backup singers."
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and then, i went to see more musicals and then i saw more shows and i would stand outside the stage door and watched these sweaty actors come out. and i would think,
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"okay, this is what i definitely want to do. how do i end up getting here?"
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i saw a standup comedian. i mean, i saw them on tv. i saw tony fields.
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yes, ed sullivan. i'm 53 so i remember black and white and ed sullivan-
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and i remember watching totie fields and phyllis diller and my mom did not like joan rivers.
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yes. because she was too abrasive?
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her always telling me if you have to be mean and hurt someone else, you're not really funny. and so i was like, "wow, that's interesting." so, it took until i was...
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so much for comedy and for women,
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but she is a reflection of the time she grew up in. [inaudible]
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and her act was very self-debasing and,
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"oh, i'm so ugly. oh, i'm so fat." and i don't think
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in today's kind of pop culture lexicon there's...
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she doesn't make fun of herself. she kind of puts down other people or makes political observations about societal setups.
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that she tries to eviscerate people the way joan rivers did.
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yes. but even when you were talking about... when i said how did you possibly win homecoming queen, class president, class clown, and all these things
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you deflected and said, "oh, it's because i was so eager to please, but-"
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it is. i'm super accessible. i was friendly to all the groups. so i pay
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attention to the janitor, as i did to the principal, as i did to the nerdy kid, as i did to the jock. so i was an equal opportunity....
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less people in the world have an easy pass that can get them in to me
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and there's so many different easy passes that give them access. so when i walk down the street or when i go to a restaurant, people will come over and say hello to me,
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and feel an intimacy with me that makes me sometimes question whether or not i've met them before. normally i go through, okay, try to see if i actually know this person.
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tell me what the connection is. so people will say, "my mother died when i was a kid too." "i also have a child with a learning disability."
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"i also had a heart attack." "i lost weight too." "i'm a gay person."
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there are so many- i have eyebrows. well, that's my point is there are so many ways
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and i'm so sort of open about all of the areas of my life
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people can fit inside or feel as though they can go right through the door.
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but that is a rare gift and i will say that that is also a rare gift in a standup.
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meaning that i'm thinking of your peers like seinfeld or steve martin, and
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even a whoopi goldberg per se, i don't know her intimately, but i would say that
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people can put themselves out there, but that doesn't necessarily make them accessible to other people. and that is a rare gift that you possess as a standup.
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before i was a standup too, as a young kid, my parents used to tell me that i would talk to everyone in the street.
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i would stop and talk to the ice cream man. i would stop the ice cream man and,
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"hi, do you have any kids?" i would just talk to people.
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neediness, but i'm going to call it empathy. so, i feel like what i think what i was trying to say before is so many what makes a brilliant standup comedian in part is having self awareness
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and then being able to articulate that in a way that's really funny. you also possess empathy. so it's another step and i think that's why you were able to bridge
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from going from a presentational style of standup to a conversational style.
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it was really interesting. the thing that helped me the most do that was being a vj
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because when you do stand up, you present a fully wrapped package and it's presented really well. it's like from tiffany's, it's in a box, it's got
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a bow and there's a whole journey of you open the bow. you open the thing, there's paper in
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the gift. when i was a vj, i was on for...
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on vh1 in 1988.
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i know i sound so old saying this, but i feel like when we were young mtv and vh1 really were changing the face of culture. whereas now i feel like there's such mainstream brands.
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vh1 was including me. i auditioned actually for mtv, they were looking for vj's and i auditioned at the improv and steve leads, the talent booker who still works at mtv,
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i went over to him afterwards and said, "what do you think?" and he goes, "you're really funny, but you don't really look like the look that the channel... i wasn't hip and cute and young and trendy.
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i was the opposite of that. and he goes, "we have another channel called vh1," and i remember seeing rita coolidge on there, who i had always enjoyed when i was younger. and i was like, "okay, i'll try that."
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a lot of people who didn't really know what it was including me.
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and told me that my pants were too tight and i would just talk about what happened in my day.
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how much do you think it was timing? i mean, you really did start it in the boom. i mean, you started in '78, right?
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yeah. the first time i went on stage was then, and i graduated high school in '80.
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best little whorehouse in texas, a chorus line. god, i hope i get it. i hope i get it. how many people does he need? how many boys, how many girls?
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young at 16, i looked like just a little tomboy. i remember when i was a young comedian people saying, "oh my god, aren't you upset that's roseanne barr?" and i was like, "why would i be upset?" totally.
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number one show on tv. if they're going to give roseanne barr a job, she just broke down the door for all of us.
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one is okay. but i remember being picked up at airports and having the club owner say to me, "we had two girls and they both sucked."
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