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there's a lot of just fun caring for babies, snuggling babies,
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lots of great ways you can get involved.
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it can be hard to admit that you need a break, but wouldn't it be better if you could take a break, have a chance to kind of recharge,
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get the right resources in place and start over in a better space where you welcome your children home. and you can say
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now we can start fresh, we can start in a healthier place.
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i think every parent has had that moment where you're just not just your children, but just everything in general is kind of mounting. and so we don't always get that breather that we need.
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i think some people have built in support with family, friends, but not everybody has that. and so if you can find those partnerships
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in the community and be able to reach out and say, i need a break.
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i need to be able to find the resources to get over this hump,
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whatever this is. it's kind of keeping me stagnant from having a healthy space for my children.
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it's best if you can reach out to that.
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this will like i've told other guests, this will be kind of one of the first conversations
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we have about this type of work. all systems seem to collide together at some point. and so being able to even relate how the systems play together.
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i think can help to dispel again, misconceptions, because that's a big part of what i think keeps people from getting help is they're-
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... not quite sure how this system works or what it means as far as their part, but thank you again for being-
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... part of the show. again, we have four guests in the room, if you want to introduce yourselves one more time.
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to give the name of this project because she does it properly. it does matter, [inaudible 00:00:27]. and the project's called?getting conversation going.
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80 percent of.of the perpetrators are known to the victim, that's right. and it's often in their own homes.
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communities.i loved that you mentioned that the men were involved in the conversation.yes.because often-
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... i think they feel excluded from the conversation. i often receive that sms or email during the 16 days, particularly from men saying this whole idea is unfair.
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but stigmatizes all men as abusers, and i feel excluded from this campaign.
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so you're saying to me, the people you were talking with were not only women-
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okay. i'm told [inaudible 00:01:04], is ready to present, so in that case, then we can start, and then because all of-
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one of this, just getting issues of coordination [inaudible 00:01:15]. coordination where, policies, i don't know what they call, they said it's because the review committee.
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whether it is the coordinating, whatever they, the-
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it's not, we can try and move it. let's not [inaudible 00:01:28].
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since they had, there were problems with the schools. the special schools-
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the rest is [inaudible 00:01:45], let other week is [inaudible 00:01:47] week. but-
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and, yesterday, this is something that's been going on for generation after generations, but sometimes there's this point where enough is enough or too-
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they can't defend themselves. but if another child's watching.well-
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give us a call down here at the studio at two-five-one, five-one-o-five, and we are taking your calls. so right now-
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you're listening to the pete mata show here in ck105 point-
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five. i'm sapphire. my special guest co-host-
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morning is jimmy from dominic's warriors. good morning.
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and i really appreciate you being down here with me to help me with this show. i'm very fascinated by dominic's lawn-
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if you're just tuning in right now, i'm getting up.
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weren't too bad, but my gosh, it was cold, and to bring everybody up to speed, jimmy who's with dominic's-
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warriors. we're going to go ahead and just give a little rundown really quick.
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embarrassed or scared to go to somebody that you know really well, and you just want to talk to somebody. you don't care who it is, if it's a stranger over a phone.
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and then we're going, commercials. we'll come back in, just more talking about it.
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i have a request from greg ag to his friends and his family, he wanted jlo's ven a bailar.
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you're listening to the pete mata show here on ck105 point 5. i'm sapphire.
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well, they're starting to go to bed where everybody's getting up, and of course the firefighters and police officers and anyone out there whose putting their life on the line.
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i mean, we really do appreciate the hard work and i just got a call from art reyes and that so awesome to hear from him, what-
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[inaudible 00:03:42] him down here at the studio with me, and helping me do this show. it's been a good morning-
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all right, i just loved hearing from you, and i look forward to hearing from you this week sometime.
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whenever you get a second, also in the studio with me is jimmy from dominic's warriors. and jimmy-
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... thank you so much for spending this past hour with me. we had a really good topic here.
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where did we leave off at? we were talk-
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how people, if somebody feels that, and this is a reverse situation we see, before we were talking about if you-
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you suspect child abuse. number one, don't turn a blind eye. nothing wrong with doing a 911 welfare check.
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right.you're not bothering the police because you could be saving the life of a child.
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we were talking about is what if you're the parent and you think you're going to lose it, or you feel like you're losing it, and we were talking about how people could get help.
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now, what is in the, for the future for dominic's warriors, fill me in on what your goals are and everything.
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if you are convicted of first degree child abuse.you get life in prison.life, and no possibility of parole.
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guys are willing to go to prison, for beating a kid.they're a target. [
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00:00:09]a target, because these guys that are in prison. they might have done some bad crimes. but when it comes to family and children, they have a very [
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00:00:19].they are.they're going to beat them down? is what you're going to teach them? is this how you want them to run the world? [
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00:00:24] sounds good. and is there any cont [
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00:00:28] serious? well, thank you so much for joining me this sunday. and this has really been very awesome because i'm very honored and hopefully we'll get a good response. [
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00:00:40]reading through local newspapers and magazines. we read about motor slave youngsters working 10 to 12 hours a day in factories. or about young girls who haven't even [
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00:00:51].unfortunately, more than 10,000 children are sexually abused per year and in 25 [
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00:00:59]virtually, you've got to rethink your whole world. [
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00:01:03]some of the problems and issues that they have to [
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00:01:08] that they confronted with as counselors that their walk-in clients bring. and in the course of that discussion [
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00:01:15] i asked the question about to whether or not perpetrators pay them a visit. [
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00:01:20] when someone wants forgiveness from a community or from a family, do they come? [
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00:01:27] so, what should families then consider as a way forward as the stepping stones? [
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00:01:33] the building blocks to keep the family together as they move on and start to heal? [
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00:01:41]they need so much time with them because i see crossing boundaries. [
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00:01:47]we don't want to confront them because if we do this [
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00:01:51].on 7:02 at nine minutes to two were talking to a dr. leonard kov. [
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00:01:57]but also wanting to be nice. people would say that you shouldn't be judgmental. you should give people the benefit of the doubt. you need to be kind. and of course, all those values apply. [
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00:02:07]and this sort of sexualized kid's clothing that she encountered. and in different countries [
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00:02:15]. you have actions and groups of parents who come together to keep society. [
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00:02:22] and we need to understand where it happens. and it often particularly targets girls. [
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00:02:28] i want to ask my guests in a short while about how boys can also fall victim to hyper-sexualization. because as a society that is working and striving towards gender equality, [
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00:02:39] we need to also undo all these various layers that entrenched sexism. [
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00:02:47] so, your thoughts and what you see in our environment, be it through the media that we can [
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00:02:54].we're joined on the line by joan van niekerk. she's the president of the international society for the prevention of child abuse and neglect. and we talked to her from cape town. good afternoon, joan [
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00:03:05].in the course of this [
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00:03:10] debate, this issue around hyper-sexualization. there's some who feel that [
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00:03:17] what's at heart, is that it's about the objectification of girls and women. and it is part of sexism. [
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00:03:30]patterns of ineffective child-rearing, of child abuse and neglect tend to repeat themselves from generation to generation. [
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00:03:39] they have knocked on effect far beyond just the immediate family circle. [
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00:03:44] it's why it's an issue that we need to continue talking about. and there are a number of different bodies working in the space and trying to interrupt those cycles and break. [
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00:03:55].and we want to introduce you to an npo that takes the battle right down to the individual household and the interpersonal relationships. as well as to the extended network of caregivers. [
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00:04:06] they call it the parents center established more than 30 years ago [
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00:04:10] in 1983, as a project of cape town child welfare society. in 1997, the center became an independent registered [
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00:04:19] npo focused on capacity building and supporting parents and caregivers. [
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00:04:24].it's a great pleasure to welcome in studio with us. blanche [inaudible 00:04:28] who's the parent [
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00:04:29] infant program manager at the parent center. thanks so much for being here. [
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00:04:33]. you mentioned that you do then one of your programs is the home visit [crosstalk 00:04:37] program. do the parents come to you and say, "please come and help?" what will you say? [
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00:04:41]so, unfortunately, i'm quite obedient. even though, i don't normally like to make people feel shit. [
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00:04:48] it's not really normally the aim of a gig, i have been quite obedient. [
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quite depressing, so you're just going to have to deal with that. the things i want to talk... i'm getting thumbs up from dave.
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yeah. depressing. what a weirdo you are. anyway.
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she was the kind of person who came and went from friendship groups and didn't really have strong opinions.
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and was bland, i guess, and i don't know if she was bland on purpose or not.
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but anyway, this is a poem about that lady, if i can find it. are you guys-
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