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to me it just turned out
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way beyond anything i could've imagined. i really wouldn't have thought that i would be standing here
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on the streets that they're walking up and down. this has just been such a beautiful and dynamic time of my life.
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i know that she probably will also ask what about the west side, because that question has come up so many times.
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we also did this project, self published it came out of our own pockets. there was no funding.
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oh, thank you. it's the end of july, we'll be having a teacher's workshop
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and also do like a curriculum workshop where we talk about how they can use the project in their classrooms and how we can really influence
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on march 17. the day after we did a tour, that's about four or five hours where we took community members out to some of these sites
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of those four organizations throughout the city. youth groups,
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some like some of their like organizations and departments want to take some tours. this summer is a pretty packed,
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but i definitely want to make sure to do two other public tours and also a bike tour
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where we kind of go to some of these locations and talk about these women.
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i'd encourage you to go into the communities.
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go to ebenezer church, go to churches along 48th street.
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teach people to give the kind of presentation you're giving to real people in the community. not the people at
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university of chicago are going to attract or i'm sorry, your university of illinois. they wiped out
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thank you so much. you're a hundred percent correct.
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i wasn't able to like list all of the organizations that i'm working with,
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but they're definitely situated on the south side.
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i think that the issue around university of chicago is they're able to displace these communities
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and police these communities in a particular way, because they have no understanding of those communities.
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i just want to make sure that they
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get that what, what are some of the biggest issues facing black women today in america?
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so i guess i'll start one of the things that i noticed while this movement for diversity and inclusion is happening in corporate america, specifically,
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where do you begin? i mean, probably with, i believe i can fly. or not
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how, you know, it happened. oh, that was girls were fast. and, and the young girl was like, no, i don't think you understand. he was brainwashing them.
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that was really troubling here in girls. saying what were they thinking? they should have left. they should have kicked him in his you know what.
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in the last year and a half. the most vociferous defenders of the president.
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i heard in all with all of these sexual harassment,
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middle-aged white guy talking here. is it maybe
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because master, in 90, that was his thing. everybody wanted an r kelly.
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cliff huxtable. no cliff huxtable is a character he played.
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that constant dividing up of the art and artist.
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if we love an art, we're willing to forgive the artist.
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a lot of times, unfortunately. we were just talking about this,
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what r kelly did is nothing that steven tyler didn't
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do. now it's different, and i think there is a little bit of that nostalgia and that you can separate the art from the artist when they're 30 and 40 years [inaudible 00:04:39].
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now the artist is right in our face. they're one and
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the same, but i don't know why we look back on stuff that happened 30 years ago and say [inaudible 00:04:51]
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today right now. but to your point, i think you're layering out years of dismissal.
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[crosstalk 00:00:02] so i think that r. kelly is now going to be the one to take the lashings for,
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...as you were saying, david ruffin and some of the other artists is like, okay, so now we need a whipping boy to now absorb all of this mistreatment and absorb all of this back-
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all right. so let's talk about black woman for a minute. in what ways do you feel black women are being protected by black men in a wha-
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just don't feel like i see a lot of that happening. but the disrespect...
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...old people too, because i like to turn my music up.yeah.but i'm like, this music is awful.exac-
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i have come to a realization that i am the teetee that you come to when your ass gets in a sling.
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truths are said here. well, when i looked at the playlist,
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you know what's kind of funny, but, and not to make a joke of this, but a couple of days ago, i was listening to cardi b's new song, money.
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[crosstalk 00:01:01]which came first, the chicken or the egg? and it's like, there's nothing to counter, balance it. and i love how,
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...you can just write, that's what i'm giving the people what they want, but,...give them another choice,where, give them another choice. and that's the scary part. what about-
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if i look around the room, most of y'all was round-
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...whatever you want to hear about black women. there's a review of mine on soultracks.com, about it from 2014. it is-
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...i just want to take a second to explain how my experience was a lot like your experience with dmx. you were a young gay man,
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...who listened to dmx because it helped you get through your workout. i once saw dmx in airport.
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this question, i think you might have the added element of being on television. i just listened to ellen degeneres,
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...in her new stand-up and she talks about how she can't do anything wrong because she was like, somebody cut me off. and i honked at him and they were like, ellen? she's the nicest person, right?
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you're navigating a workplace. you've got an office,
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but you're also on television every single morning.
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is there another dynamic of how you have to operate being in kind of a celebrity world and then also being a black woman in a corporate setting?
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...assertive. i'm being professional. i'm being assertive.
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if there's one emotion growing up in detroit, since i was
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...seven years old, when i first became aware of who this person was, if there's one emotion i associate with chuck guernica, it is unrestrained-
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i feel like when you're attractive, you have a bit of a competitive advantage. and then for black women i feel like-
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think about that part, right? we did an entire panel,
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...talking about: is black beautiful? and so just kind of beauty standards and things like that.
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that open. no. well, in our circles she-
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ok.right? and so, and then in black culture she comes in one week,
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...she's got short hair, is blonde, right? and the next week she got long curly hair,
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but usually the wigs were the same color.true story.
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we talk about respect in the workplace. if there's a way brothers could be better and should be better, is how are you advocating and supporting black women in the workplace because i know for a fact a lot of my ca-
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...reer was supported and advanced because of black women's support.
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you balance out, i don't know what the formulas are. you, if you balance out elements.
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to create our own space and then bring each other along, i feel like that's probably going to be our saving grace.i think the lag comes from a lot of things so i can-
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who went back the second week we make it. we're the one that, and i say this to someone with a master's degree who is one of the only people who made it.
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koreans who come over or asian men who come up. it's like.
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...that's coming in. so maybe we'll start up, because i remember
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getting my nails done at a shop, at a vietnamese shop in my tech was saying that they came in from california because they opened up the shop in california.
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i'm just here to help get things started here.
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i don't know.but there's part of, this is a historical piece of this too.
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i think there is something distinctly american. it's almost like a martyrdom. i'd rather fail as an individual than make it by depending on other people, because that makes me,
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...all these other cultures we've already mentioned, but, anyway, we're going to say no, i'd rather fail, because that's that-
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i told ken and steve that they could march, but they're going to march behind.
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i've heard every excuse other than we didn't want to do better. right? so i'm going to take up my marbles and i'm -
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maybe it's old school, but i don't see how that's any of my business. okay.
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i guess i should explain where this question comes from. okay. here's some context. so...
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maybe it's because i do care too much, what people think of me? i don't know.
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and i've been raised around predominantly white people. right? so i didn't go searching for people who weren't around.
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i just found who was close to me. so married my wife, love her.
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she's had my back. that's great. but there've been people that i've talked to that when i was dating, if they saw that on an online profile, equal opportunity offender,
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it didn't really matter to me. `i've dated every shade under the sun. but if certain black women saw that they were
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like, "i can't date you. you're not a real black man, because you date anything other than our sisters". i was like, "oh.
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i didn't know that i was relationally owned before i was relationally owned"
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but there are some women who feel a certain kind of way about that.
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my sister included. she has said, when you date a white woman,
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this is the standard of beauty. white women are the standard of beauty.
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we have backed you. you have not backed us.
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and when you get successful after we've helped you, then you go and you get yourself a white trophy wife.
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i'm going to go get myself a good white man so i can have good credit. oh. right? so there's that. we talk...
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that also speaks to patriarchy. why is the expectation that somebody is going to be submissive to you? that somebody is not going to hold you accountable. that someone's not going to call you on your...
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these in order for you to feel tall, there is a problem. and the problem is not with her.
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