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okay. and it turns out that one year they only
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produced four episodes for the series. only four? yeah.
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that's weird. i don't know why. but
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to be a little inconsistent with the format or your deliveries...
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really? yeah. how do you mean? they released every episode, all of the episodes at the same time,
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which is so many episodes long, let's say 23 or something like that.
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there's also this cultural thing that we've talked about many times, which i think is really interesting,
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but i bring this up because...
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do i start by the beginning? do i write something from the end and write towards that?
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okay. first of all, they said, that's the highway. you can find him on facebook by looking for dusty highway.
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so everything becomes very tense, very forced. and you don't get the effect you're looking for.
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yeah. and also ask for commissions. he loves those.
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the results here being that japanese normally don't know or don't want to, or...
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i don't know, [inaudible] that doesn't allow them to finish their things right.
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listen, here's the thing. i heard something about how the ending of a
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memory is what you actually remember from that memory.
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the feeling you have at the end of it becomes the thing.
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if you have a terrible time, but at the end of it you got blown.
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so you're, you're saying that memory functions on emotion? yeah. okay.
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that's what i mean. i mean, american way of telling stories is good because at the end,
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no matter if it is pacific rim, if it had had a good ending,
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then that's what i think makes some people go away from anime because that's rarely the case. yeah. and at most what you're going to get for an anime is not a...
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that's the thing. they don't really get it across,
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but sometimes it really just doesn't make any sense. sometimes it's pointless.
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and also another thing that i don't like in japanese storytelling is the inconsistency when it comes to the storytelling.
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i mean, mexicans might be inconsistent in production, but the japanese are really inconsistent when it comes to the
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structure or the facts of their stories.
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for example, there's other things that i don't know if you want to get into this, but there are stories in japan in anime that they start being one thing,
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then it seems like, in the middle of the thing they decided they don't want to tell that story anymore. yeah.
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but that's a very asian thing. it's in korean works. i mean, according to what i heard,
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it seems that koreans do that a lot, too.
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and he emulated that in one of his works.
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and he made it a point to mention it, so that's why i mention it here.
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but, i mean inconsistency in their facts, like for example-
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and this was what made me not like pacific rim so much- that guillermo del toro, who is a mexican,
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tried to emulate japanese storytelling so much in it that there were inconsistencies. for example,
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at the beginning,
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he's piloting it with the girl
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and they're trying to beat the shit out of the kaiju, right? yeah.
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it seems that the only way they have to fight with it is beating the shit out of it with their fists.
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then take the sword out. what? you had a sword? why didn't you use it from the goddamn beginning?
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i remember these scenes very clearly because this guy takes these
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storage hangar things from the dock. i mean, those big, big, big metal containers. yeah? and he grabs them
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and he beats the shit out of the kaiju with it. i mean,
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okay, your fists are made of some goddamned metal that does not get bent
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when hitting a kaiju. do you really think that a goddamned metal container that
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was crushed when you grabbed it, is going to help you do more damage?
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and apparently, it does work.
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it doesn't make sense. i know. and that's the kind of things that japanese do a lot
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with their works. there's a lot of inconsistencies in the facts
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of the story. yeah, that's true. that's true. i got a really good kick out of something someone told me.
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okay. i understand that at the very beginning of the movie, when the protagonist's brother dies,
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they didn't use a sword. maybe because they didn't have a sword back then.
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yeah. right? okay. well, here's the thing.
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someone told me that they read up on the backstory quotes, a lot of quotes here for the movie.
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and he's saying that he read that the swords eat up a lot of the energy.
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okay? and i'm like, dude, did you see how many plasma gun blasts they waste
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before getting a fucking sword out? you're going to tell me a plasma gun eats less energy away than a sword?
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isn't a sword really a stick? a carbon stick?
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argue, with this guy?
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also, i don't know how the communications kept working when they crossed the gate to the other dimension.
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because obviously they love [inaudible]
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flow. right. so if you have this communication system, even if you go through this dimensional barrier,
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you get to [crosstalk] know,
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i mean. no, no. but you know what i hate about this thing that i see so many guys, so many americans go
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to pacific rim to exemplify a movie in which it is not an american that saves the day.
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this is not the typical thing where the americans get to save the world.
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what? this fucking guy was american! what the fuck? i mean, not only was he american,
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it was the australian guys who were going to save today.
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yeah. you have a japanese girl in the fucking robot.
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wasn't she chinese? no, she was japanese.
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no she was japanese. really? yeah. yeah. they were in shanghai.
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but i didn't know that people were saying that. that's...
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you know, an american got to save the day, but really in the end, aren't we all american?
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before you go on, guillermo del toro
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is a mexican. yeah. and yet we get an american saving the day yet again. saving the day. yeah.
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where was the mexican jedar? i know.
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a [inaudible] name for it, it would be something like "el santos."
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yeah. i know. yeah. yeah. i know. la troka.
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la troka is fine. yeah. the truck [inaudible] in spanish.
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but, yeah, and that's the point.
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and that's what i like a lot about the independent communities,
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blender, for example, with their short movie, sintel.
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yeah think it is- i love the ending. it's not a typical american ending,
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and yet it left me with a satisfying feeling.
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it was sad, yes it was sad, but it was a good ending. it...
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if you guys haven't seen this sintel movie, it is really good.
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it is an open move made by the blender foundation, who make a blender 3d. i would assume that you guys, being visual artists, should know about it. but if you don't,
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a link to it... it's really awesome. and the guy who directed this, his name is colin levy or something like that.
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and he did say that he didn't want to have a typical american ending. nice.
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but, at the same time, he didn't want to go to the sad ending either. mm-hmm (affirmative). so it's really, really, really funny, because
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in the comments for this picture, you're going to see many american guys and many american girls go with this sentiment,
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that the ending sucked, because it wasn't a happy ending per se. mm-hmm (affirmative) but it wasn't a sad ending either. it's
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this weird mix between the european sad ending and the american happy ending that's just so satisfying to me.
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yeah. i loved it. i really, really loved it. i cried. i cried. and my girlfriend also cried.
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wow. she does have a heart sometimes. especially when it comes to little cute animals.
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well, i didn't know that he was american.
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that's awesome. that's awesome. well, my hat goes off to him. really good work. he- he works at pixar now.
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yeah. that's- he does deserve it. he's awesome. he's really awesome. like an animatic, right? yeah. okay. exactly.
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well, that's awesome. and wow, good for a pixar for getting that kind of talent into the ranks.
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