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and it doesn't matter what you end up coming out with-
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incentive compatible, which basically means aligning the best actions of each person with what the best actions are for the network.
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there's still this external attack vector of bribing attacks.
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and that's still a very, very open problem.
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i've definitely not seen a lot of sophisticated economic incentive schemes from any-
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we treat these things as these panaceac solutions to problems of securing international networks with no dominant stakeholdership.
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but it sounds like what you are telling me is that there is no silver bullet and that we don't know what-
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these kind of practical issues are going to be really hard to foresee.
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and it's definitely only going to be something that we can realistically expect to deal with-
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once these protocols are out there and in the world.
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okay, well that gives us a really great view on this whole space and the way it's been developing.
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so mechanism labs has been working on a lot of cool stuff-
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we've recently been focusing a lot more on incentive schemes and kind of nailing down what it means-
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so we'll definitely have a lot more work and a lot more blogs coming out on that.
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definitely also just been converting a lot of our research into a format that people can follow along with.
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currently, i think there's a huge gap in knowledge on what consensus is where any of these systems are-
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and mechanism labs has been doing a lot of work on making all this content more under-
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so if anyone wants to get involved and join and be part of it, they-
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anyone who wants to have interesting conversations about any of the technical things happening in this space can hop in and chat about at-
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it's so hard for me to say that i have a favorite project because i'm really excited about all of the different things that are happening like-
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so zcash is definitely doing a great job on that end. i care about seeing how scalability comes out.
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and i guess all of the projects that we wrote about in our paper are projects that i'm excited about-
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i'm also really, really excited about proof of storage.
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okay, so storage. this is really interesting because i just read an article on hacking-
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and this is an outstanding problem that i've been aware of in the space for a while.
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a cool piece of technology that i'm excited about.
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yeah, so verifiable delay functions are basically, the idea behind them is in a general commit reveal scheme-
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and then you send another message to reveal the value that you commit it to.
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but with a vdf, what you can essentially do is just make a commitment and then the reveal happens automatically after some amount of time.
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or basically anyone out there can compute the reveal.
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but the computation it takes to get the value that you committed to takes some amount of time.
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no, the idea behind vdfs is that it requires some amount of-
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but as asymptotically you can kind of approximate it.
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where some value is locked for some period of time.
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and these are really powerful in randomness generation for-
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but someone realized that they don't like the outcome of exploring all those values-
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then all of a sudden the randomness that could have been generated is aborted.
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but with a vdf, once everyone's just sent their commit vdf message.
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there's no way that you can abort the creation of the randomness value.
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okay, and so this is why, when you're saying x and all their values, you're talking about commit reveal system.
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yeah, i definitely think there could be other use cases of vdfs.
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but there's definitely a lot of cool places it can be applied to.
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oh yes. and that's what i love about the blockchain space.
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it's brought out so much of cryptography and distributed systems research into mainstream light-
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[inaudible 00:09:43] it's awesome to catch up and to learn so much about all of the work you're doing. and it's funny because-
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yeah, it's wonderful to catch up with you too, arthur, and-
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street. exploit their position to impose arbitrary rules on content by refusing to serve participants, who produce content they find objectionable.
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the thing about the adult industry is that we have many-
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one of the things that we deal with is discrimination from our payment processors.
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so say your payment processor doesn't like blood, then you don't get to use blood in your-
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just because they don't like it and you can't find someone else to process your payments.
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so you're not making nearly as much money off of-
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but we're sort of stuck when it comes to billing.
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identifies the problem and just to complete ludicrous nature of it.
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i'm going to rerecord an interview with singularitynet.
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which is essentially a two-sided ai component marketplace and i've just recorded in it.
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not adult industry related at all.
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but they're beholden to large distribution services and also large payment processing services.
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silos of control. then you can really bring all of the value that make those businesses profitable and put it into the pockets of the people on both sides.
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this live cam seems like a great use case for payment channels.
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the embedded discrimination that's in the financial system against the adult industry and-
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right? that's a blockchain. it's inclusive and permissionless and-
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because once we have most of the commerce of the adult entertainment industry running on spankchain and on ethereum-
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then we don't need to deal with the censorship that is imposed by the payment processors and the banks that they serve.
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i also am really excited about spankchain because we're not industry adjacent-
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i'm a part of the adult industry.
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so many people want to work alongside of adults.
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in the space that we're working in, and that's one of the biggest things because so many payment processors are ashamed to be associated with us or it goes against their-
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their terms of service or code of ethics like jp morgan chase closed down adult performers.
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but you can't do individual transactions because-
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i can go to any city in the world and be recognized on the street.
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south america. it's almost, it's actually scary.
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such as they don't want it to show up on their bank statements.
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or, they don't want it to show up in the mail.
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and with blockchain technology it can be semi-anonymous.
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i think with that, we would be giving more money directly to the people who are producing the content.
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which would not only benefit us.
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or given the opportunity to explore it in a-
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because the obstacles themselves attach that stigma.
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last thing you want is someone to know about it.
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and we hope that it's more generally accepted and-
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we think that there's like a guilt and shame bubble.
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people are the ones who suffer the most under the discrimination.
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everything trickles down into the sex industry, as well.
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so, these payment processors unfairly target-
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these already oppressed people, like trans women have a hard time getting on cam sites or clip sites because there's not a category for them.
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it's either straight women or gay men.
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what percentage of that market do you think you can capture?
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this is intended to be a play for domination.
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so what we have to do is survive long enough that we make that future happen.
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it's taken from performers and given to the clip sites that they host their content on.
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like a very popular site, manyvis.com takes, i think-
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the marketed price of a product.
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so you're getting down to a third of your actual economic value.
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it's only five cents, so, we're literally working for nickels.
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there has been no breakthrough in innovation.
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because, like i said, people are begging us to take their money.
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yeah, it sounds like this is the ultimate industry-
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they'll be able to receive gifts and they'll be able, anybody will be able to use it.
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which will be open source and will be able to be used in the browser. now-
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