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so that's why i don't think that we're good at it naturally. so,
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yeah, it's a part of growth.
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like been cooking meals for people who have been over and they're laughing and having an amazing time, just busting joke in the kitchen
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and other times where i've been in the kitchen doing stuff,
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but my friend has come in and i've broken down because i've been so emotion...
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it's more than this space where you just cook to me, the kitchen.
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the way i kind of wanted that to reflect with marvey's kitchen online and offline
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and the thing with that, i guess maybe because i am the face of the brand, it...
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meant that i would have to be the... take the lead in that and cause a sort of domino effect. where i was
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in person, and i think for me, the beauty of conversations like that is that you see that you are more alike than you are different
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yeah. sometimes when we are in the ugliest of places or in the middle of growth or healing or just any kind of...
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okay. i can see a bit of myself in you experience
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and i think through conversation, you get to unveil that. and i
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i think running events or even cook up prior to starting marvey's kitchen, like...
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problem and finding the solution,
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and i guess everyone solution is different, but i mean, what advice would you give to people in that respect?
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kind of from your experience and from your own
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i don't know being the face of a brand or being the trigger. i think
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because i think it... i don't know, i just think of, when you say hi, you have to say hi to someone for someone else to then say hi in return.
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has been in my experience, me being willing to say, oh, this is me
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so, i think each person has to kind of gauge where they stick with that, but
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using that part of my personality or my character to...
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and the little things that we do that can be overlooked are what will often help people feel comfortable enough to kind of let their
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their guard down. i'm very,
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even if it's the canopies and things that i put out all the attention to detail that will make someone say like, oh, i've been
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i've been looked after in a particular way. i fee a bit
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just made sure that the meal that came before the money conversation was really comforting and
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i don't know, just foster that environment where people are okay to let their guard down.
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okay, i agree. i agree.
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actually i think i have at least half an hour icebreaker at pens, every single pen talk.
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which obviously is too, let people have
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so yeah, words of advice. i don't know
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i mean, i've definitely kind of been involved with [inaudible 00:09:27] before
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but it was the first time i probably was like, you know what, because i'm not going to
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miss all this coronavirus as sad as.
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honestly, it's, it'll be so sad.
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i wish i had done x, y, z. i wish i had been a bit more carefree
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see you're out sinning, but live the life that you want to live. don't feel like-
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... that's what it is. just do it. it's not-
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yeah, just do it. don't think about it too much. just do it.
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but something else kind of outside of this that you've done that because i think, you know-
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... but i want someone else to do it.
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if they keep extending the lockdown, i'm not going to see my videographer for a while and obviously i'm running out of content course of my feed.
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they know how to get your angles right. i get really self-conscious in terms of being-
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i'm talking to a camera on a tripod, i might look bigger than i want to look and i just like-
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like community d part as a side hustle is... yeah, people inquire.
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you know what? i keep giving other people the advice or like christine said, putting yourself-
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so if i'm just like, "okay, i don't know exactly what i'm doing. i don't know where you're supposed to put the lights so that there's no shadows. i don't feel the most"-
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... one needs more than me being conscious, overly conscious, about how i look. in the grand scheme of-
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... and every time i feel a way, i just remember-
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... one of those videos that i think goes around the internet all the time. i think i-
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... will be successful. my life is more than the oprah show. whether the oprah show works or-
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... was definitely something that pushed me out my comfort zone. i-
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hate being recorded. i hate cause i don't like the way my mouth moves when i see my.
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i don't like the way my mouth moves and plus-
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... invitations to come on podcast and talk about my articles that i write and stuff like that.
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... screw this. so yeah, i think for me, it's more kind of out of my comfort zone. it's just being a bit more blunt and being a bit more like, "okay-
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... "this is a completely different perspective, different-
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yeah. i mean, i feel like i've definitely taken away a lot from this conversation.
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i'm a massive admirer of all of your brands-
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... and i'm going to tack it all on the-
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... myself, but even more so happy that i'm able to-
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... try to learn, put yourself in a position to-
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... learn. so for example, with this coronavirus, you-
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... have ample time, even if you are working from home.
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yeah. i don't believe in wallowing.
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i feel like it's a waste of time. i feel like if you are going to wallow-
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... introspective. i'm also someone who doesn't-
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i'm really disappointed with not getting that job.
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... but being the person that i am, my default is to be like, "okay, whatever."
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... and then i got up after those five minutes now, i was like, okay, it's all right,
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so yeah, if you're going to cry over milk, do so quickly and be a grizzly bear today.
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... spoke about second one is about stuff coexisting and-
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i think it just came to mind. i think based on the discussions we were having around marbie's kitchen and how things kind of came to be. it kind of makes me emotional thinking about it.
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but it's simply just to let anyone listening know that taking time out to get to know yourself is one of the best gifts that you can give to your-
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... yourself. it's a gift that keeps on giving and sometimes people make fun of it. they're like-
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... different questions to ask. i would write in a book what i bring to the table over and over and over again, not-
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... part of you as you evolve, and as you grow as a human being, but also-
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... tried to convince them that it wasn't true, but-
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... investing in constantly, getting to-
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second piece of advice-
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... is something that i tried to learn in recent years, especially like going to-
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... in all of it. and even if you can't see the beauty immediately, just allowing it-
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... could be really unnerving. you don't know what's going on next, things are unstable-
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you're anxiety might be through the roof but at some point you could be laughing at baby-
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it felt so good.when he was doing the so-called dances-
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... beautiful for many different things, whether it's grief-
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this one diversification, i thought of it today. so, i don't know if you guys have seen like people asking questions around how to bulletproof their finances for recession or recession-
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whenever people typically respond on these websites-
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... they talk about diversification, so not having all your money or all your wealth in one particular thing, because then-
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.. in terms of, somehow, i made the link to kind of what we're going through emotionally in this period-
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...or what we're seeing is people having withdrawal symptoms from the addiction to the myth of certainty.
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... having control and depending on certainty is-
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it's a way to deal with anxiety. it's a way just to feel like they're in control.
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but i think what i'm coming to see now is that we need to have-
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if you need ways to deal with anxiety or ways to cope or ways to live your life, not feeling like things are falling apart-
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don't let it all be in one-
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... thinking now, like, "okay, what other ways can i"-
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i don't know, diversify the way that i handle things emotionally or deal with-
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... a period like this, so, yeah.
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