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and i actually think that our education system and hollywood are the bellies of the-
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well, everybody's equal but they just don't value education.
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one of the terms that i've been really annoyed with, used by my family and others, is political correctness.
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you do have to think about what you say. god, is that so hard for you? yes, saying retard-
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or you somebody calling the police on somebody at a pool-
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look, leadership knows how to highly encourage without mandating, right-
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and what guides me is, "okay robin, try to get it as right as you can, as often as you can."
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understand that is a realization i've been having by working with tech companies where the overwhelming majority are very young.
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so there's all this other subtexts going on this.
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enforcing white supremacy, but they have no idea how much pain their coworkers are in-
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and that actually creates a hostile environment.
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obliviousness creates a hostile environment because they-
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[inaudible 00:05:32] better pay. i mean those are great stories for us because they absolve us of responsibility-
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often it does. so my apologizes is meant to say, acknowledge that this is real-
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it took me a while because i really don't like that question.
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my website is robindiangelo.com, diangelo is d-i. we just finished a reader-
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require them to make some very deep conceptual and ideological leaps-
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people don't know a lot about how thing get done.
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why i got into racial justice work in the first place.
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weather privilege, some of that identity has privilege and some of it-
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i'm sure barrett kohler is excited whenever you propose to them.
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you just have to call it immoral. you can't be polite about it and-
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my listening skills are not good.
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after one, understand the problem.
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[inaudible 00:06:18] clear to speak up, it's like, or i'm going to wait for-
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[inaudible 00:06:21] and the vitriol and the bias exposed at such a grand scale. on the other-
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while you're in beta, you're testing all the things. so that creates an inordinate amount of stress.
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you just have to oppress somebody. there's always somebody at the bottom rungs of a society.
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who don't believe in something like people say, "oh, white-
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that's so problematic. we have to learn how to embrace each other.
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i'm excited and so grateful to talk to you. and yeah-
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[inaudible 00:01:28] grounds and reorient towards wholeness. i mean-
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probably a long multi-generational period of appealing as well.
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i make this book for everyone. even if you don't like reading, the pictures are amazing-
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... black farmers. so that's super-exciting and i think we'll see both of those things probably-
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actually making me realize that i did not do a good job-
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as far as ones that are recorded with a b, my-
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[inaudible 00:07:19] the wisdom we need. and when we fall away from that, it's-
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fall down the fruit to a heart that is open.
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to me, but we sent a survey out.
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why do other people think that way and what can we do to break-
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i have the pleasure of being the president and ceo of an organization called the partnership. we've been in existence-
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[inaudible 00:07:43]. here's what i get out of it so that it's appealing to people who are not-
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but there was also a little bit of a gap of... and we realized what are some of the things that maybe we're missing in our own company first around-
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if you were a woman and wanted alone up until 19-
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i go to an interview and i arrive early because i'm interested in seeing who's walking by. i'm looking-
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but they didn't realize that all of the power was-
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... important to have conversations around unconscious bias. and quite frankly-
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so rather than do it because it's the right thing to-
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[inaudible 00:08:10] as opposed to negatively. because what we don't want to do is-
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... the commonality of our interests? it's far greater than that of our disinterests.
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obviously by the book and-
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to be as well so while i'm a woman and may feel more comfortable with women and like being a woman-
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and happy to advance diversity and inclusion.
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we now have non-regulated banks making a lot of loans and part of that is the insurance industry. and i don't know-
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it really is a pleasure to have you and for-
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really feel like entrepreneurship is so important.
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like an upside down tepee. and that passive-
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... compensation to happen. it just traveled along those fishing poles. and then we would collect in the bottom of the basin. now they have a very passive way to collect water-
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... getting that redwood tree, you're going to fall in love with-
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humans have destroyed so much.
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there's this other component which is so alive for people, which is especially-
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... [inaudible 00:01:57] design is all women. that's super-exciting.
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you can't mix love and academia.
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wonderful. i'm excited to see the new cohort that's reaching completion here and just to track the ongoing effort.
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... do deep observation themselves. but at the same time we know that number one,-
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... that the two of us had to meet. and i'm so excited to finally chat with you and-
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south african apartheid, we're actually going to boycott the economy that is killing people in planet.
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sort of been percolating to the surface and i'd love to just, it sounds like-
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you have some really cool funds and i would love to just learn more about what change finance is bring to the table in that regard.
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have complained about the house of finance and mocked it and saw it as morally-
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mm-hmm. yeah. i'm so grateful for the way... like, i'm so heartened. this is one of the... i feel like this podcast is medicine.
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so easily the highlight of my day talking to you today, i feel-
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... my social network, my wealthy white childhood and family. and try to bring resources to these under-privileged areas.
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considered asian, but they may be pakistani or vietnamese or chinese or-
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... to, instead of being able hear-
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so one of the most important things that white people can do starting right now is start talking about it.
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everyone can relate to this. you share with someone, "it really hurt me when you did blah, blah, blah." well-
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... context here. if you don't understand what's gone down in this country, and this is what happened to me, it happened husband. it happened to my siblings, happened to my children, and you start to see yourself as a white person-
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in ways that will divide us from each other and even from parts of ourselves. that breaks my heart.have you found any-
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... to be a concern anymore. so i'm really proud of this young man for the work that he's been doing-
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... the mission of the youth program and what you're striving to accomplish with the support that you do provide-
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that's so heartening to hear.yeah.
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... those are so bad for mother earth. and the youth once they're-
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... here on the podcast, but yeah. stay tuned.
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and i'm wondering if we could speak a little bit, if you have thoughts-
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studied biology at uc berkeley, and was doing research and published a paper on turtle reproductive cycles and-
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and they, at that time, allowed people to produce their own content and then-
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... so backing up and giving a better overview-
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about agriculture, about addressing problems in your community.
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... come as groups. we have volunteers who staff our-
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... inspired me to stay and ...
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... as well as some products made by local artists.
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[inaudible 00:02:37] members to come, pick up every friday afternoon during the-
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and i love that there's so many ways, and just to recapitulate for those listeners who are not-
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... and being able to put out a model for how other communities can do a program similar to ours. we have-
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... we've got to focus on learning from each other and-
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... the future.thank you, kevin. i really appreciate you and all the team at lift.
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... excited to have you on the show we met recently at-
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at a b corp gathering, the b corp bay area build event. and it was just such a pleasure to connect with you there and i've just been really-
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