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your kids could attend. so we put up a basic map and it just was a 10 week project and it fixed the problem. you you could type in your
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address and see which schools your kid could attend. and just that changed people's perception of
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what not only how fast a government project could go, but the fact that it looked like consumer software.mm-hmm (affirmative).and in fact, a couple of projects like that in that you
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here, kind of got us the ability to do another year, because it was so
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it was so visibly better than anything that existed before that everybody then wanted more of it. and then everyone wants to know how to do this. so our
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our thesis is show what's possible by making government services so good that they inspire change, then help others do it themselves because we can't do them all
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but we can teach people what it means to do delivery driven government, but they have to already be bought in. we can't come in, it doesn't start with lecturing or teaching. it starts
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starts with a powerful example and then build a movement of people who think that this is important, that this matters
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to our country and create more and more pressure. so if your question is like, how do we scale? that's kind of our thesis.yeah. and i think that makes sense. and i think you actually
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there are a couple interesting things in there that might be worth exploring it. and one is the idea of just doing these projects and that's the kind of thing that
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the tech insightful people of the world, right? i mean, part of what excites them is the ability to see a problem just go out and try and work on it and fix it. you know, as a
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opposed to having to do a big policy change or to move government through the political
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is i think is really appealing. and also, you know, on the flip side, i mean, we've been talking mostly about getting government people to understand what technology can do for them
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but it also does the reverse, which is gets people who are involved in tech to understand how to make government itself better as to the sort of more
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cynical view that many people in technology have of just hating on all aspects of government.yeah. what i want people in tech to do is like "great, go
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pick up the laptop and hack something together." but that has to be the start of something, not the point of something
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and it starts a conversation and
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but there's just a lot of follow through. and i think what i would love to see is more of silicon valley doing that follow through and actually of figuring it
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out then what is it they learned by doing that? what relationships did they build and how can they actually make that become real change? not just a shiny object.
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i guess you have to
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dive in. i thought this was didn't know what was going to happen when i started this oregon, now it's sort of like my life's
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work and i feel like it's really important and i want everyone to do it, but it's also really, really, really hard.i mean, the people that we
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i mean now i think our world [inaudible 00:06:53] america world is very much like a hybrid of people who are from the government world and people
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who are from the tech world. and then some people who've always been that hybrid.
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there've always been people at this intersection. i'm just sort of relatively new to this intersection. but the folks that come in from the tech world
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really kind of have a common narrative arc, a common arc of their own experience where they think
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okay, i've seen some of the technology. the technology is so bad that the bar is low. so this is going to be easy to fix
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and then they have this cratering time of realizing how hard it is to fix it.not just because that technology is like
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there are archeological layers of technology that all rely on each other. and so yes, it would be easy to pull out that one thing and replace it. but in the meantime,
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the entire veterans administration falls down,
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and, but also how hard it is to get this to happen. and then understanding why those things are hard
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to make happen. like policy changes like you cannot stand up in amazon, for instance. it's just stuff like that. but that's all i need to do. and they go through this
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gun period of despair of, a friend of mine calls it the moment they realize there is no bottom
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and then we lose half the people during that part of it.right.where they're like, this is folly. and then like half the people make it
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so i just want more people to like a come in and then b survive that pit of despair and go into the commitment to it. i also want to help a bunch of people who
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don't go all the way into there, but just start to understand what's at stake and just want to support the work and want to believe that
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government can work and we have to just have much more of a focus on that as a society and a little bit, maybe we have to steal
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a little bit of energy and attention away from the bickering that goes on in the political sphere.
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yeah. yeah. no, and i think it's important and i sort of mentioned this in passing in the intro is just the idea that everyone focuses on the sort of big political thing
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but there's so much other stuff in terms of just how government works on a day to day basis. and a lot of that could be done better and
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there's an argument there that if the basic functions that government is supposed to handle worked better and in a more user friendly way and a more, you know,
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user responsive manner that people might actually trust their government a little bit more. you could argue whether or not that's a good thing but i would like to think...
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just blame one political party or another for that. well, exactly. we...
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we're currently in, but i think can pull ourselves out of, a super negative spiral on this trust and faith in government thing where...
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people, as you said, see government not working well. they get frustrated. it could be at the dnv, or it could be, for instance, in the welfare system...
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like snap, like when we worked under medicare, which we work on as well.
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i think most people would agree that having low rates of voting in this country is also...
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way to increase voting. but i actually think that the evidence is there.
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commentary on that. i guess i'm curious what that is. i think i agree with you, but i'd like to maybe unpack that a little bit if you...
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i think where i'm...
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with quote-unquote ethics...
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think we should pass laws. it's just that...
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you can even see this in areas that are not related to procurement at all, but...
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there's a law...
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and i think it's like the clinger-cohen act of 1980 or something like that, that specifies that all government technology needs to use an enterprise service bus...
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well, that might've been generally kind of a good idea, but is actually not the right thing everywhere. so, you can see...
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internet standard protocol that's tiny and lightweight and easy...
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but for some reason, because it's in the law somewhere, they actually have to go out and go to bid and be dealt...
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and you go, "this is just not fame", and it's actually true, that is in law somewhere. right. i would just think there's a lot of...
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around. i would just say the one law that's always in effect is the law of unintended consequences. one of the things i would like this...
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whole agenda to move into, if we talk about user-centered iterative and data-driven technology, we also need user-centered iterative and data-driven policy. yeah.
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the members of congress on this nerdy, weird little thing that no one wants to pay attention to, because otherwise we are stuck with it forever! yeah.
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like privacy laws and like ecpa the electronic communications privacy act, which treats any message that's been on a server for a...
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180 days is abandoned, not recognizing that one day we would have cloud services everywhere. and your g-mail, of course, is going to stay on a server for more than 180 days but...
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that creates all sorts of headaches down the road and then become a huge hassle to try and change. therefore, often they don't get changed. so i can...
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totally see that. but anyways, i do think this been a really interesting conversation. i'm not going to take much more of your time. i appreciate you...
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that be thinking about what does delivery driven government look like and how can we use technology in ways that are really useful. thanks, certainly for all the work that you do...
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and also for taking time to join us on the podcast. well, thank you so much. i really appreciate you being willing to talk about your traumatic past [crosstalk 00:04:10]
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we weren't sure how much interest we'd get.
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and it turns out-
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i think there are a lot of questions about where the internet is going and all of these things. so it just kind of felt, i think, really good for this community of folks who've-
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... been working on these issues for, some of them, three decades.
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to come together and just-
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... for the reasons i said before.yeah. so i think that's right. in terms of legal weeds, like getting a standalone-
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... part of the dfca was kind of tacked onto a much larger project of copyright quote unquote reform. i guess we can call it that.
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but the idea of doing standalone copyright term extension seems unlikely. and it just sort of seems like a lot of these fights have moved to-
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... trade agreements. and so we are seeing copyright terms getting extended in places like canada because of the new nafta, right. the new-
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... re-negotiated nafta, which i don't even know what the status of that is at this point. i think it's all just sitting around and waiting for various approvals. but if it does-
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... yeah. as like-
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... when a lot of times you know-
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... in half of the 20th century in terms of access to culture.yeah.yeah it's a huge issue. and i think calling-
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... or just sort of calling it the orphan works actually i think does a disservice because it limits it to the ones where we don't know who own the rights, but-
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... actually as it turns out, a lot of works, a lot of works, especially in the musical world are owned. we know who own them. they're just not, they're just-
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... make it available even if they do own it.
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and a lot of that is true for books as well. so i think it's an orphan work problem, but more importantly, it's a commercial availability problem. like-
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... these things just aren't out there, even if somebody owns them a lot of the time. so it's bigger than sort of this narrow idea of-
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... i say, you know how you've seen like a hundred different jane austin remakes?yeah.
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... until i can't exactly remember what the buckets are, but i think it's like 1923 to-
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... maybe somewhere late in the 1920s, they all go in the public domain in like three years. and then like five years after that, we get up to-
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... like the 1940s. and then after that there's another, maybe 10 year window and then a bunch of things come in. and then i think once-
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... you get into the fifties, that stuff is all going to stay in the public domain until 2067. but yeah, so it's the sort of weird fix where they've got like-
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... and it was very, very, very, very, very, very, very hard for them, way too burdensome, way too hard for them to figure out what they own to have a rolling-
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... partially exploited. so we are really, really happy that that is there and are excited to continue to find ways to make those work successful. i mean, we still have-
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... to figure out what commercially available means. i mean, this turns out to be very difficult at any kind of scale to figure out, but we are-
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... paul. he is who has been our artist in residence at the internet archive for the month of january. he's a professor at risd-
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... of all of the images we had from 1923, there was not one single image of a non-white person.wow.wow, yeah.yeah. so-
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... it just goes to show in a lot of ways that-
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... i mean, i don't... i think copyright has lots of things to recommend it, right? so i don't want to be totally anti- copyright, copyright is bad, but there are-
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... see it and therefore i can riff over it.
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and it just had never occurred to me. and i was embarrassed by that and i was like, wow, i'm so glad that this is opening my eyes to that. and-
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