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2012/12/17 | 463 | 1,755 | <issue_start>username_0: It's maybe a little bit early to ask that question, but it can occur, that questions are asked, which are off-topic, and a tag is created therefore. Example: [How could Aang stay alive for 100 years?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/498/how-does-ang-stay-alive-for-100-years) [avatar](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/avatar "show questions tagged 'avatar'").
As discussed in the question, avatar is not topic of AaM, hence the question is closed. But what should happen to these tags? If I see the tag, I think "Hey, there's a tag for it, so I can ask!". Should be anything done about wrong/off-topic tags?<issue_comment>username_1: I don't think it is a problem, though I can see your point.
I doubt that the presence of a tag will force people to use it. Think about it, what does one do when he wants to ask a question? First of all, he tries to search for if the question already exists. Lets assume it doesn't. Now, one will press "ask question" button. After that he creates a title, writes the question itself, and *only then* he goes to the tags. DO you really think that after doing all that the absence of the tag in auto-completion list is going to stop him? Unlikely.
I personally agree with the point expressed in [this answer](https://math.meta.stackexchange.com/a/2524) on meta.math. It states that there is a *tagging problem* only if the tags are *inaccurate*, while if the tags are *accurate*, there is no problem, no matter if the tags (and the question itself) are on-topic or not.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Ideally, an off-topic question should later be deleted. Once it is deleted, the tag becomes orphaned and will soon after be removed by the system.
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2012/12/17 | 781 | 2,940 | <issue_start>username_0: I've just seen a cosplay-related question, which was posted during the definition-phase.
<http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/31538/anime-manga/31755#31755>
There was a discussion, whether the question would be too objective, but I have an other question: Are cosplay-related questions on-topic in general?
I know, that a cosplay is always manga/anime-related, but isn't it more a question about dressing/photography? I don't know what question could come up, but I think, that cosplay-questions are most likely something like "How should I dress" "What's the best background" (See Photography.SE) ...<issue_comment>username_1: * Some (if not most) of such questions are highly subjective ("what's the best way to...", "should I do X for cosplaying Y", and so on.
* The questions will most likely be about *just the look*, NOT about the character/story. A question about apparel *might be ok* if the question is directly connected to the story. (Example: Kempachi's eye patch and bells in his hair, which have concrete reasons of existence plot-wise). I'm sorry, but I personaly do not want questions like "how do I tie the ribbons in my hair the way Haruhi did on Sundays?". Forgive me this weakness.
* Some of the questions are going to be like "where do I buy X to cosplay Y", or "How do I make X for my cosplay costume of Y".
For questions about how to make a costume/what fabrics or tools to use, something like [this proposal](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/36782/clothing-and-fashion) will be better.
Subjective questions are off-topic on all SE sites.
So, generally speaking I think such questions should be off-topic.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: [Similar to my answer about Vocaloid questions](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/143/41), I think we have to limit cosplay-related questions to those that stem from the source material themselves.
Questions about character outfits / design in a particular scene is one thing -- like asking about why Lina Inverse's hair changes colors at certain points in Slayers, or what the different rank insignia in FMA are (and what they look like) -- but actual questions about costume design and photography are too subjective and thus outside the scope of this SE.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: The Area51 thread had a very interesting link, including [Guidelines for Great Subjective Questions](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective/)
I must say I love that blog post, and I believe if we demand open cosplay questions are allowed only if they fulfill premises described in there, we may get questions we really won't regret.
Thus, I think allowing them conditionally in the FAQ, along with this specific link as to how to phrase them would have a potential of adding to the value of the site.
Of course poorly written questions should be closed presto.
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2012/12/17 | 927 | 3,876 | <issue_start>username_0: This is spurred by this question:
[Why are anime music videos admitted in anime conventions?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/620/78)
This question is asking about the legality of music videos at conventions.
I don't believe questions asking for legal advice are a good fit for anime.SE, because we're not lawyers. The usefulness of any answers is very suspect also, for the same reason.
Not to mention that legality differs from country to country, so any answers provided will differ greatly from region to region.
Thoughts?<issue_comment>username_1: I agree.
This subject is very borderline, because the question *can* ask about anime/manga in particular, however, by nature, most of us cannot answer such questions reliably.
I say we go for safe here, and not accept legal question, especially without any sort of official disclaimer about how the information given here is not legal advice and so on and so forth.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I disagree.
I've made that question and I got a [very precise answer](https://anime.stackexchange.com/a/625/98), quoting an interview I've never heard about before by the [intellectual property specialist of Funimation](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/chicks-on-anime/2009-05-05). The quality of the answers is often determined by the quality of references, and after that an the other answers at that question the AMV acceptance in anime worlds by both copyright holders and fans is more clear to me. SE is made for this.
Clearly, a disclaimer will be useful to avoid misunderstanding about the scope of the site and I absolutely agree to write it down. But it should not block questions that are about a popular form of derivative works made by fans in public events like anime conventions. It's a social subject, reducing it to a subject only lawyers can talk about is detrimental because ignore the context.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: This seems like an odd reason to exclude something. I mean, there are folks asking questions about plot points from folks who aren't the writers, and even the *creation* of anime/manga being answered by folks who are not involved in it... Even though you would *hope* to attract experts in each topic, at this point there will naturally be a lot of questions that either can't be answered, or must be answered by someone who is not an expert in the topic - hopefully by drawing on information provided by someone who is.
Now, I tend to agree that questions asking for legal advice should be off-topic, not because they would put answerers in danger but because *they're not about anime or manga*.
But the question you use as an example isn't asking for legal advice. It's asking for help understanding certain policies within the anime community which appear to be blamed on copyright law.
Focusing on the legal aspect here seems to be missing the point. Are anime conventions on-topic? Are anime music videos on-topic? These are the more important questions, and seem to fall in line with many other discussions on the topicality of anime / otaku-related culture here.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: I think this kind of questions is going to be *rare*. Rare enough that there is no point to make a rule about it.
If we make too many rules, we'll get lost in them. We need clear, easy to follow guidelines, and not a precedent law that depends on a million clauses and needs deep study to understand what is and what is not acceptable. So, while I think this question is a poor fit, no matter what we do about it, we shouldn't use it as something to make rules - for our own good.
Elsewhere it was suggested that maintaining an exceptionally long and growing list of resources is a headache not worth the benefits. I assure you a long and growing list of rules to follow and obey is a far worse headache.
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2012/12/18 | 585 | 2,253 | <issue_start>username_0: Should we allow comparison of anime characters here? For example, "Which character is better? Character X or Character Y?" Like,
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Others might ask something like that or put them (characters that are being compared) into a situation where they will have a fight or something. Or ask something of others' opinion of who's better. Or they might ask of their differences and similarities.
Should we allow questions like that?<issue_comment>username_1: **No**
Asking who is better in some situation is subjective and will lead to arguments for which there is no answer. It's maybe a borderline case if both characters are from the same series, but even then I'm opposed to it unless there's a good reason why we'd expect there to be a definitive answer.
Asking about differences and similarities should also not be allowed. The only exception I would make is if one character is directly based on another, and even then I don't think these make good questions most of the time.
As per the [FAQ](https://anime.stackexchange.com/faq), questions here should be practical and answerable. This sort of comparison is neither (except in a few exceptional cases), and so we should not allow such questions.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Not in the sense that you mean. "If X and Y fought, who would win?" is subjective, argumentative, and pointless.
There is are a few "compare these characters" questions that are allowed, but they take a slightly different form from what you've offered.
Theme based:
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The last one is the only one I would say is questionable due to being subjective, but simply making it a bit more specific would redeem the question.
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2012/12/18 | 733 | 2,862 | <issue_start>username_0: As i observed [Madara Uchiha](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/27/madara-uchiha) used in many questions about Madara the first person. Like "stated that I had indeed transplanted" It is referred to Madara and not to himself (I guess he isn't Madara in "real life").
Should we allow the first person as character in questions or answers? It could get out of control once we get a Son-Goku a Vegeta, a Naruto etc.<issue_comment>username_1: The question is, whether it confuses readers. The name is written under the message, so I don't have a problem. However, if it gets out of control as you've written, we should forbid it, as new users may be confused.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I think that as long as the answer/reference is correct, and the name of the poster is accurate (like in Madara-sama's case), there is nothing wrong with it, and it's fun to read.
I'd like to point this out once again: it only works if it's used in good answers/questions with correct data. As soon as a newly-registered Naruto will start stating that during his trainings with Jiraiya he was faking the inability to create Resengan Minato-style (i.e. easily, without preparation and with one hand), that answer/question/comment should be dealt with.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Another user started to refer to himself using the first person. He then changed it but — and I'm not speaking about the user, just taking it as an example — I think this might get out of hand in the long run, so I came to think that...
...we should forbid it.
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Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_4: As amusing as it is, it's just going to make posts more confusing for users. As I've stated on meta several times before, we should strive to make things *less* confusing, not more.
Furthermore, if any of these users ever changed their names then their answers in first-person would be complete and utter non-sense, and users would have considerable difficult following the post. The name change would also require us to go back and edit all posts to third-person instead of first-person, which is just a waste of time.
Due to the above reasons I think we should **forbid** using first-person in posts, and edit out any such instances where it is used.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: TL;DR
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No, it's not okay. I vote for forbidding it.
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I originally started it as a joke. When I stopped, people urged me to continue, so I did.
Now that the site has gone public, I will cease to do it, because it serves as a bad example for our new users.
Things will get really out of hand really quick, when we'll have 10 Naruto's each asknig questions about themselves.
So from this point onwards, I will stop asking questions in first-person tone, and I expect others to do the same.
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2012/12/18 | 1,183 | 4,846 | <issue_start>username_0: As I read the meta page, I see increasing number of "Should we allow...?" questions.
We're in a phase when we are creating rules about the site. The natural reaction is that we see a question which arises our doubt - seems poorly written, barely on topic, common knowledge, not specific enough - and our reaction is to write a meta asking if we should make a rule regarding this type of questions.
Which is fine and dandy if there's a bunch of the questions like this one really cluttering the site and we are really helping set shape to it.
But if this is a single question unlikely to reappear in another year, we should take a step back. We are creating a *rule*. Something there to stay, something to be learned by all who want to keep contributing to this site meaningfully.
If we make the corpus of rules too big, very few will ever want to learn it. Important rules will go unnoticed because the user reading a twentieth minor peeve forbidden will just stop reading and trying to remember.
So, before you ask whether given type of questions should be allowed or forbidden, **take a step back and consider whether given type of questions is worth being regulated at all.**
If they are to appear once a year, maintaining the general rule will be more hassle and introduce more disorder (by making the whole corpus of rules harder to learn) than deciding if the question belongs, ad-hoc and case-by-case.
My suggestion for questions like [(1)](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/239/should-we-allow-questions-about-the-legality-of-forms-of-anime), [(2)](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/246/should-we-allow-the-first-person-writing), [(3)](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/163/is-asking-about-anime-crossovers-off-topic-here): *leave unregulated*.<issue_comment>username_1: I understand what you mean, but there are a few things to be considered.
It's easier to set the rules now then having more people understand them. If they are ready by the time we reach public beta, the site will work better.
Second, the rules can be changed anytime, if deemed necessary. We're not carving anything in stone. Just setting a few parameters that we can always fix later.
By the way, if a question is not welcome, it should not be welcome even if it comes once a year. If that means having a specific rule, then let's make one. We must not allow questions just because they're rare and so one rule is "a waste"... We need to separate good questions from bad ones. That's our job as a community.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: There are a couple of points you need to consider.
First of all, most new users *do not care about these at all*, and a lot of them don't know what meta is/that meta exists. They will ask questions regardless of the rules we make or do not make here.
Second, each rule has exceptions. Of course if we agreed that "questions X should be forbidden", and then, once in a while, an absolutely awesome question of type X arrives, it is not going to be closed just like that. It's the spirit of the law that's important here, not it's letter.
Third, the rules are not set in stone, that's why we have this: [discussion](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/discussion "show questions tagged 'discussion'"). Don't like something? Feel free to discuss.
Fourth, all those clarification posts "should we allow XXX" are really not for those new users who have just come to the site to post those questions. They are for *us*, more experienced users. They are there to help us understand whether or not a particular question should be closed, or how to act if a specific question appears. Note that most of the times these discussions end with common sense winning.
So yeah, don't take them too serious, just use them as guidelines when you are not sure how to act with a particular question.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: I don't think we should *leave it unregulated*. You are right, these questions maybe won't appear again, but if they do, it isn't bad that there's a discussion about the topic + an explanation. A new user doesn't need to read them all, therefore we have a FAQ.
For everything else, read the other answers, they were too fast for me ;).
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: (I'll skip the points others already made)
An other advantage of these rules/discussions on Meta is that they can be used by (well-read) users/mods to point out new/other users that their question is not allowed/undesired on this site.
So, one does not require to remember them all, but they can be used as a reference.
I think, this works best if the rules are established in front and not when 'it is too late'. So I personally do not mind that there are a lot of 'Why this/Why that'-questions asked on Meta lately.
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2012/12/18 | 1,551 | 5,768 | <issue_start>username_0: Well, we've been a week into Private Beta. According to the [Moderator Pro Tempore](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/07/moderator-pro-tempore/), the SE Team will pick up (usually 3) users to become Moderators more or less a week into Public Beta, until we graduate, so let's start with nominations. After graduation there will be actual elections where users can nominate and actually vote.
*Read carefully.*
But what does it take to be a Moderator?
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According to the blog post above, Moderator should:
* Have a reasonably high reputation score to indicate active, consistent participation.
* Show an interest in their meta’s community-building activities.
* Lead by example, showing patience and respect for their fellow community members in everything they write.
* Exhibit those intangible traits discussed in [A Theory of Moderation](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/05/a-theory-of-moderation/).
Bonus points for:
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* Members with participation in both meta and the parent site (i.e. interest in both community building and expertise in the field).
* Area 51 participation, social network referrals, or blogging about the site.
* Members who have already shown an interest or ability to promote their community.
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* You can self-nominate or nominate others. Each nomination should be posted as a separate answer. Link the name to the user’s profile (parent and meta) so everyone can see their activity. Links to other activities may be helpful: Area 51 participation, participation in other sites, blog posts reviewing or announcing the site, etc.
* If the nomination was posted by a 3rd-party, the nominee should indicate their acceptance by editing the answer, adding that they accept the nomination. Optionally they can write something about themselves.<issue_comment>username_1: I nominate [username_2](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/15/alenanno), [meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15/alenanno).
* Have a reasonably high reputation score to indicate active,
consistent participation. **Yep**
* Show an interest in their meta’s community-building activities. **It seems like that**
* Lead by example, showing patience and respect for their fellow community members in everything they write. **I think so**
* Exhibit those intangible traits discussed in A Theory of Moderation. **I think so**
Plus, it looks like he was mod before:
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Thanks for the nomination. Before the Nominations started I said that since I already was (am) a mod on three sites, I would leave the others first and that I would only step up if I was needed (i.e. a third name was needed). I still think so.
I greatly appreciate the trust and I think I'll like spending time on this site and its community. I don't hide I'd like to help actively being a mod, nevertheless, leaving others trying this experience is the right thing to do (I even nominated two other users). Ultimately the Team will decide and they probably know better, but I had to say this again.
In any case, I accept the nomination, if my participation will be deemed necessary.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_2: **[SingerOfTheFall](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/111/singerofthefall)**, [meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/users/111/singerofthefall)
This user is active on SO and so knows the rules pretty well.
I've seen him intervening on many Meta questions with common sense, well-organized thoughts and it seemed to me that he had clear ideas on how to organize things.
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Thank you for nominating me, I gladly accept the nomination (and yes, I'm a man, not a woman;). I've been using StackExchange for about half a year in total, mostly using StackOverflow (and reading the meta often), so I know about how the system works, and what is the community role in it.
I also enjoy both helping people (by answering their questions as best as I can and helping them to improve their posts) and looking after the site by doing review tasks.
Good luck to all participants, and let the best nominees be appointed.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: **[Krazer](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/63/krazer)**, [meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/users/63/krazer)
I know this user from the Chinese SE, where I'm a moderator. I'm proposing him, because I already know him, more or less, and he strikes me as a nice, laid-back person.
He's the current top-reputation user, he's quite a prolific editor, too.
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Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_3: I'd like to nominate myself, **[<NAME>](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/users/27/madara-uchiha)**, [meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/users/27/madara-uchiha).
1. I'm active on both the main site, and meta. I see great potential in this site, and would like to help it grow.
2. 36k reputation over on Stack Overflow, I know the Stack Exchange system and mentality well.
3. I'd love to help anyone in need. I'm already dealing with flags on Stack Overflow, and would love to do the same here.
Good luck to all nominees!
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_4: I'll nominate myself, [JNat](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/49/jnat), [meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/users/49/jnat).
* I am rather new at the SE community, but **I think I can help this site grow and live up to its potential**.
* Although this is currently the SE site where I have my highest rep, **I am among the top users rep-wise and activity-wise**.
Good luck to all! :D
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2012/12/18 | 883 | 2,984 | <issue_start>username_0: There are a lot of different types of comics, and it should be made clear how manga is defined here. What should be the criteria for something to be manga and, as such, on topic?<issue_comment>username_1: According to Wikipedia,
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I think the definition of manga should focus on mainly the origin, like with anime. While manhua, manhwa, la nouvelle manga, and other forms are inspired by manga, they aren't manga by the American and European definition, and the line must be drawn somewhere. This will also create consistency between the anime and manga definitions.
How anime is defined is answered in [How is anime defined?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/157/how-is-anime-defined?rq=1), and most of the answers involve the origin being the primary criteria.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I think we should define "manga" as comics fit one or more of the following:
* Comics created to target the Japanese as the **primary** audience
* Comics (originally) **created/published** in Japan (including self-published works), this includes comics adapted from non-Japanese source material (E.g., [Batman: Child of Dreams](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman%3a_Child_of_Dreams))
* Comics **serialized** by a reputable publisher, E.g. Kondansha
* Comics that have received an nationally (Japan) or international award (for non-serialized comics), or by a legitimate and reputable panel of judges. E.g., [International Manga Award](http://www.manga-award.jp/en/)
The line gets a bit hazy when we a dealing with self-published works (including doujinshi) by non-Japanese authors outside Japan, typically these works are **NOT** considered manga, despite similiar styles and themes. But there are [exceptions](http://www.manga-award.jp/img/en/5thaward/goldikillglants.pdf) to these [Original English Language](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/press-release/2007-07-10/kodansha-to-publish-megatokyo-in-japan) manga.
Such cases do not seem to be a frequent occurrence, so we can deal with them on a case by case bases.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: Most sites dedicated to manga also include *manhwa* and *manhua*. Take for example the cases of:
* [The Breaker](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Breaker_%28manhwa%29)
* [Noblesse](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noblesse_%28manhwa%29)
* [Veritas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veritas_%28manhwa%29)
* [Ares](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ares_%28manhwa%29)
I think that a looser definition of what is acceptable on this site is warranted based on what is broadly accepted by the western manga community. In that sense, and IMHO, both manhua and manhwa are. There's also the question of size. I don't think that manhua/manhwa oeuvre is really all that broad for the number of questions to be significant.
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2012/12/18 | 1,659 | 5,786 | <issue_start>username_0: Doujinshi are self-published Japanese works such as magazines, novels, and manga. From the description on the Wikipedia page, some of them seem to be akin to visual fan-fiction, though not all.
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Should questions about these be allowed?<issue_comment>username_1: Absolutely yes. Many manga authors like [Sumomo Yumeka](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumomo_Yumeka) started from doujinshi and then became professionals mangaka. Ignoring these works would mean splitting these authors in two, the professional and the amateur, disallowing questions about part of their career.
Questions about doujinshi are probably more difficult to answer to, because of availability of the doujinshi itself, but an a priori prohibition would be counterproductive.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_2: Yes, question about *doujinshi* are on-topic for the following reasons:
1. **Some professional *mangaka* (manga artists) later switch to self-publishing**, such as Tachikawa Megumi, who is famous for *Kaitou St. Tail* and other series published by Kodansha, but is now self-publishing at [her website](http://www6.plala.or.jp/mts/). Due to the fact that publishing print manga is unprofitable and sales have been decreasing in Japan since 1995, [Matt Thorn](http://www.kyoto-seika.ac.jp/eng/edu/manga/) in the Faculty of Manga at Kyoto Seika University [predicts](http://matt-thorn.com/shoujo_manga/colloque/index.php) that more and more pros will follow this path of switching to self-publishing as time goes on.
2. Some **professional *mangaka* self-publish *doujinshi* on the side as a hobby *while* publishing with a company** professionally, such as [CLAMP](http://www.doujinshi.org/browse/author/29585/CLAMP/) has done. These can include **non-official side stories** about their own characters (such as if an editor or publisher doesn't want to publish a particular plot idea, so the *mangaka* draws it outside of the published canon for his/her own gratification), **crossovers** between their various series, **parodies**, and ***doujinshi* based on other people's works**. A couple examples of mangaka who do doujinshi while publishing licensed series are [Sugisaki Yukiru](http://www.doujinshi.org/index.php?P=LIST&T=author&ID=14141&S=7) (author of *D・N・ANGEL*) and [<NAME>](http://www.doujinshi.org/browse/author/13684/Tanemura-Arina/) (author of *<NAME>*).
3. The number of professional ***mangaka* who got their start in *doujinshi*** would be hard to calculate because there are so many of them.
4. Manga magazines such as *Nakayoshi* and *Ribon* intentionally feature professional *mangaka* drawing the characters of other professional *mangaka*. In at least one issue per year, a couple of the *mangaka* working for that magazine will be **assigned to draw a full-color fanart illustration of a character or two from a different mangaka's series that runs in the same magazine**. Not only do the readers get a kick out of it, *mangaka* seem to enjoy the practice. [Take<NAME>oko self-published a *Sailor Moon doujinshi* artbook](http://mangastyle.net/sailormoon-artbook-vol-infinity/) that she sold at Comiket, for which she recruited illustrations of her characters drawn by a number of her professional *mangaka* friends (such as <NAME> of *Aa! Megami-sama* fame, Nekobe Neko who wrote *Kingyo Chuuihou!*, and Yoshizumi Wataru who wrote *Marmalade Boy*) as well as illustrations by key animators and *seiyuu* from the 90s TV anime adaption.
5. The most famous and largest manga/anime-related [convention](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/conventions) in the world is Comiket (Comic Market), held twice a year in Tokyo. Unlike the manga magazine *matsuri* (festival) conventions held in Japan in the summer, and unlike most anime cons held overseas (such as AnimeExpo in California), [Comiket is about 90% *doujinshika*](https://anime.stackexchange.com/a/22858/8134) (*doujinshi* sellers) selling their wares; if you don't care for *doujinshi*, there is basically zero reason to go to Comiket (other than *doujinshi*, there is only 1 small-ish dealers' room of licensed titles). Nevertheless, no one in Japan would consider Comiket off-topic for anime/manga. **Professional *mangaka* have been spotted at Comiket** purchasing their favorite fanworks. While not technically legal, the Japanese police have never been interested in storming Comiket and shutting down the event. It is acceptable in Japanese culture for *doujinshika* to make a modest profit off of their works even when those self-publications are derived from fictional worlds/characters created by others.
*Doujin* works include not only *doujinshi* comics but also self-published novels (「二次創作小説」, *niji sousaku shousetsu* which literally means "derivative work novel"), illustrations (「イラスト」, *irasuto*), hand-painted animation cels (「同人セル画」, *doujin seru-ga*), and merchandise. Some can be viewed online for free and others are printed and sold.
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2012/12/19 | 506 | 1,854 | <issue_start>username_0: In terms of audience, graphic novels appear to be on-topic. Most any store I go to to buy manga will have graphic novels nearby. That said, it will also likely share a wall or a storefront with Marvel and so forth.
* How should scope be defined around graphic novels?
* Is the limiting factor the presentation style or culture-based?
* What is the difference between graphic novels and manga in terms of audience, and does that matter to scoping the site?<issue_comment>username_1: No, graphic novels should not be on-topic. Comics such as Watchmen, Batman, Bone, et cetera are *not* manga, and should thus be ruled off-topic. See this related meta here: [How should manga be defined?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/265/how-should-manga-be-defined)
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: <NAME> and [Moebius](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Giraud) (a French artist recently passed away) worked together to make *[Icare](http://www.nonsolomanga.it/manga4/taniguchi_icaro.htm)*. This can be called a graphic novel *and* a manga and this is absolutely on-topic. Not all graphics novels are Western comics, there are even important collaborations from a Japanese artist and a Western artist like this.
Agreeing to a [by origin definition](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/266/98) or a by [external reference definition](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/189/98) (here about anime) will solve this question, because excluding graphic novels will be ambiguous as ambiguous is the definition of "graphic novels": a more "literary" and appealing term for comics or manga, but not a term to distinguish between manga (Japanese comics) and comics (Western comics).
In answering this question, graphic novels should not be excluded because many manga could be defined as graphic novels.
Upvotes: 1 |
2012/12/21 | 516 | 2,219 | <issue_start>username_0: I think it is very important that we allow only Manga references in the answers to any questions. I think that wiki references tend to loose context of the situation where the information came from. This may even lead to pple starting to answer with really unreliable sources as references and this might get the site credibility to decline. Thus, I think all the references should be from Manga/anime and not wikis
But all in all, the above is all my own opinion.
Thus, I ask you:
should wiki references be allowed?<issue_comment>username_1: There's nothing wrong with referencing any source you may find, and think that is credible. Whether you, the OP, accepts it as one, is your business.
If you wish for manga reference, ask the answerer politely in the comments to include them. If he does not oblige, do not accept his answer. It's as simple as that.
The wiki, from which the reference in question is taken, is (in my eyes) a relatively credible source, as it's regularly updated and maintained.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Even if you have a reference from the original source, a wiki reference is useful because it can be directly linked to (for verification and to provide extra background). In contrast, there's no reliable way to hyperlink to a specific point in a cartoon.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: I personally think they are Ok. Consider the following:
* Wikis are collaboratively edited, so they usually will not allow wrong data to be posted
* most wikis have their own references to the sources (chapters/episodes)
* It may take **way too long** to find references yourself. Sometimes I remember that something has happened, but can't remember in what exact chapter/episode did it happen. In this case, it's obviously impossible to recheck all of the chapters or episodes.
* If the poster of the question accepts the answer, it means that he/she is satisfied, no matter what the sources were.
* If you want exact references in a question you ask, feel free to explicitly state it, and not to accept any answers without them.
* If you think some answer is missing references, you can always leave a comment asking the author to add the.
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/21 | 531 | 1,995 | <issue_start>username_0: I just saw [Has the "It's over 9000!" meme spread back to Japan?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/752/has-the-its-over-9000-meme-spread-back-to-japan) and was trying to figure out if this is on-topic. It is about anime but only in the sense that it is asking about anime's influence in Japan.
Should questions about anime/mange memes or anime/manga's influence in different countries be allowed?<issue_comment>username_1: I don't see why not. The linked question is most definitely answerable (probably better than my answer), and it's related to anime. If we can ask about the cultural influence of other aspects of culture on anime (as in [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/278/is-no-face-from-spirited-away-based-on-any-traditional-japanese-legends)), then we should also be allowed to ask about the cultural influence of anime on other aspects of culture. I can think of a number of interesting questions like this, which I don't see any reason to restrict.
I'd also like to second the opinion of [Creating too many rules](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/249/creating-too-many-rules), that we shouldn't create more rules or ban things unless there's a clear reason to do so, because it makes our site less user-friendly. In this case, I don't see any such reason.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: For this specific question, I don't think it should be allowed. The focus of the question is more on meme/Internet culture than anime itself.
If somebody were to ask "What is the it's over 9000 meme from?" that might be OK depending on how we feel about identification questions. But, as the question is, it's not really asking about anime. It's just asking about a meme that happened to be from anime.
Sorry, I don't have much more to add because I see it as something rather clear cut. If anybody else who agrees with me has more to add, feel free to edit as I've made this answer a community wiki.
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/25 | 589 | 2,171 | <issue_start>username_0: Based on [this comment](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/767/why-gajeel-start-getting-motion-sickness#comment976_767), where **<NAME>** says:
>
> I don't believe we have the answer to this yet. It appears that it
> will be a plot point later on, as his new-found motion sickness has
> something to do with his personal growth in the dragonslayer realm.
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Should [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/767/why-gajeel-start-getting-motion-sickness) be closed until this mystery is revealed, or edited in a way to be more `answerable` ?<issue_comment>username_1: I don't see why not. The linked question is most definitely answerable (probably better than my answer), and it's related to anime. If we can ask about the cultural influence of other aspects of culture on anime (as in [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/278/is-no-face-from-spirited-away-based-on-any-traditional-japanese-legends)), then we should also be allowed to ask about the cultural influence of anime on other aspects of culture. I can think of a number of interesting questions like this, which I don't see any reason to restrict.
I'd also like to second the opinion of [Creating too many rules](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/249/creating-too-many-rules), that we shouldn't create more rules or ban things unless there's a clear reason to do so, because it makes our site less user-friendly. In this case, I don't see any such reason.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: For this specific question, I don't think it should be allowed. The focus of the question is more on meme/Internet culture than anime itself.
If somebody were to ask "What is the it's over 9000 meme from?" that might be OK depending on how we feel about identification questions. But, as the question is, it's not really asking about anime. It's just asking about a meme that happened to be from anime.
Sorry, I don't have much more to add because I see it as something rather clear cut. If anybody else who agrees with me has more to add, feel free to edit as I've made this answer a community wiki.
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/27 | 1,055 | 3,765 | <issue_start>username_0: Some anime and manga series have multiple continuities, such as *Fullmetal Alchemist* (the manga and *Brotherhood* follow the same story while the original was only partly based on the manga) and *Evangelion* (the *Rebuild* continuity has strayed completely from the original anime, and the manga is completely different also).
I read through [this question](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/212/should-we-have-separate-tags-for-the-dragon-ball-series), but it mostly covers multiple tags for different parts of the same continuity.
So, what I wonder is: Should we have tags for each separate continuity? Such as [fullmetal-alchemist](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fullmetal-alchemist "show questions tagged 'fullmetal-alchemist'") and [fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood "show questions tagged 'fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood'"); [neon-genesis-evangelion](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/neon-genesis-evangelion "show questions tagged 'neon-genesis-evangelion'") and [rebuild-of-evangelion](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/rebuild-of-evangelion "show questions tagged 'rebuild-of-evangelion'"); and so on? [This answer](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/88/274) seemed to suggest we should, but no changes have been made to questions pertaining to *FMA: Brotherhood*; should they be?<issue_comment>username_1: For Fullmetal Alchemist, having separate tags for `fullmetal-alchemist` and `fullmetal-alchemist-brotherhood` would get really confusing. Fullmetal Alchemist (the 2005 anime) is different from Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, but Fullmetal Alchemist (the manga) is essentially the same as Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood, so that will lead to a lot of problems. As said in [Regarding tag sprawl](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/222/regarding-tag-sprawl?lq=1), it can just be clarified in the question which one is being asked about.
For Neon Genesis Evangelion, and in general, I think having a policy of fewer-is-better should be used when regarding tags. It can be clarified in a question what is being asked about, just as it can be clarified whether a manga or an anime is being asked about.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I think the answer here is "it depends".
Are the very significant differences between the versions of the series? Plot-wise? Character-wise?
In the case of [fullmetal-alchemist](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fullmetal-alchemist "show questions tagged 'fullmetal-alchemist'"), yes, there are. However, because the *manga* is called **Fullmetal Alchemist**, while the "original" anime is called **Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood**, I'd argue it would make more sense to have a [fullmetal-alchemist](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fullmetal-alchemist "show questions tagged 'fullmetal-alchemist'") for the manga and brotherhood, and a [fullmetal-alchemist-2003](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fullmetal-alchemist-2003 "show questions tagged 'fullmetal-alchemist-2003'"), for the 2003 series.
However, these cases should be handled on a case-to-case basis. If the variations are fundamentally different, yes. There should a different tag for it. Where the most "popular" tag ([fullmetal-alchemist](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fullmetal-alchemist "show questions tagged 'fullmetal-alchemist'") is considered more popular than [fullmetal-alchemist-2003](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fullmetal-alchemist-2003 "show questions tagged 'fullmetal-alchemist-2003'") in this context) goes to the *canonical, official* series.
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2013/01/09 | 388 | 1,591 | <issue_start>username_0: I've noticed certain [answers](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/878/63) link to external manga readers. Many of these manga readers make their money off pageviews and ad-content. I don't think we should be directing traffic to these sites.
Should we remove them and add a reference to the chapter and page(s), rehost these image(s) on Imgur, or do something else?<issue_comment>username_1: Yes.
Unless the link is an article or a wiki page of some sort which explains the topic better (a.k.a. "Also See"), but only an image to illustrate/example an idea, rehosting it on imgur is an easy and appropriate solution.
Directing links to external sites may have unintended consenquences against people whose providers (for example) have blocked one or another manga site. Imgur is neutral grounds, we haven't received complaints about images from imgur not loading.
About referencing a chapter. I don't think we should provide links to external manga readers. Mainly because most of those are illegal hosts/scans. Reference the chapter/page without links, and trust the OP to find it himself in whatever way he sees fit.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: If you doubt about where the site is illegal, **don't link to them**. Just indicate the general chapter and page.
If the site is official (as if the same distribution company shares the Manga), then that's OK. But I doubt that exists.
Any link to illegal should be removed, so if you see something that might not be totally clear, **flag the post**, moderators will act on it.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/01/09 | 481 | 1,865 | <issue_start>username_0: Imagine the following:
You are a new user with 1 rep. You want to ask a question about a manga/anime, that has no tag yet (in my example: Chaos;Head, tag would be [chaos-head](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/chaos-head "show questions tagged 'chaos-head'")). How should such a user tag the question? He can't use the tag for the manga/anime, because it doesn't exist yet/he can't create it, he can't ask at meta or in the chat, because he hasn't enough rep yet and he can't use a generic tag like [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'"), because they're blocked. What should the new user do?
Should new users have the possibility to create new tags for new series? I think that's a bad idea, but it's the only one I could think of.<issue_comment>username_1: It's a bad idea, simply because a new user doesn't know how the system works. He doesn't know what is the accepted format for tags in Stack Exchange in general.
Even a user who's active on another site (And thus gets a 100 point bonus), doesn't know what the accepted tag scheme on *this specific* site is.
If a user wants a question tagged with a specific anime which doesn't exist, the expected behavior is:
* Find a tag which closely matches what he wants
* Either wait for a retag by a high-rep user.
* Even better, flag the question for retagging by a moderator.
I understand the system is problematic, but allowing new users to arbitrarily add tags induces more problems than it would solve.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: The rep limit is to avoid that any drive-by user can create a tag (even non-sensical or offensive wordings).
It's a protection for us. If a new user wants a retag, they can simply ask so in a comment. Any regular user will add the tag.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/01/16 | 609 | 2,447 | <issue_start>username_0: There's an [anime-identification](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-identification "show questions tagged 'anime-identification'") tag but no corresponding one for identifying manga. It does seem, to me at least, that manga identification requests are significantly rarer than ones for anime, but I do regularly see requests for identification from an image of a panel or a page from a manga (on other anime/manga related sites). Should there be a separate tag for manga identification or should there be a single tag which covers identification of anime, manga, light novels, or whatever else? Also, it seems one of the [questions that's using this tag](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/1952/what-is-the-song-played-in-cool-device-11-fallen-angel-rina) is requesting an identification of a song, and not of an anime, which leads me to think a more general "identification" type of tag would work better.<issue_comment>username_1: I would vote *against* [identification](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification "show questions tagged 'identification'"), because it's exactly too broad. This way, it can be used to identify **anything**:
* anime/manga by description
* anime/manga by screenshot
* music
* characters
* places (e.g. "what place was a prototype for the setting of anime X?")
* *anything within the anime/manga*, here are just a couple of random examples I can think of:
+ What brand of T-shirts did character X use in manga Y?
+ What is this food character X is eating in anime Y?
+ ...and so on.
I would vote for having both [anime-identification](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-identification "show questions tagged 'anime-identification'") and [manga-identification](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-identification "show questions tagged 'manga-identification'").
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: We have decided to go with [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'"):
* It applies to everything: not just Anime and Manga.
* The "request" makes it very clear that it is a request.
[anime-identification](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-identification "show questions tagged 'anime-identification'") was retagged to it, and synonymed to it.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer] |
2013/01/19 | 953 | 3,860 | <issue_start>username_0: If you are like me, the majority of manga (not so much anime) I read are on hiatus.
But, is asking about the production ***off-topic***?
What do you mean by upcoming, or hiatus manga/anime?
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'Hiatus' means that production of the manga/anime is paused, and will be resumed at a later date. Some manga, like ***NANA***, **Highschool of the Dead** and **D.N.Angel** (and many others, I'm sure) are on hiatus and have not been updated in such a long time it's almost easy to assume they *won't* ever be updated.
Alternatively, if a manga-ka has announced that their manga is going to be made into an *upcoming* anime or if a manga-ka has said that he/she is making another manga series - it would be considered to be upcoming in production. The point I'm getting to about upcoming anime/manga is: is it OK to ask about key aspects or dates of the release of a particular anime/manga?
How could this be *on-topic*?
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It seems like questions relating to the production of anime could be on-topic for the following reasons:
* The subject is directly linked to Anime/Manga
* The answers can be factual and have details about the plot (that can be used for future reference etc.)
* For an anime and manga Q&A site, it seems reasonable to ask about upcoming manga and anime.
Example questions:
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> 1. Does anyone know when [title] will resume production?
> 2. Is this [title] discontinued, and why?
> 3. When is [title] going to be released as an anime?
> 4. Will [title] become an anime?
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Thanks :)<issue_comment>username_1: We should focus on questions which are answerable factually, and with answers that will remain correct and will not become useless in the future. There are some cases in which such a question about a not-yet-aired series or a series on hiatus would meet these requirements, but in all the example cases you've given, I don't think that's the case. There's also practical difficulty in that the answers tend to either be either very easy to find via google, or nonexistent. So if you can't find the answer yourself, chances are no one else here can. You're still welcome to ask on chat, of course, but by-and-large these don't make good questions for the main site.
For an example of a question that I think would be acceptable (not necessarily good), one could ask "Which novels are going to be animated in the [Monogatari Series Second Season](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=15054) anime?". The answer to this is more-or-less known, and is very unlikely to change. It would also not be totally useless even after the series airs. There's some practical difficulty because you won't always know whether the question is answerable, so I'd advise against these questions unless you're sure an answer exists.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I think that questions about when something would resume production or when it would be made into an anime should be off-topic. The questions would become obsolete as soon as the date passes and as such would be pretty much useless. Also, as username_1 said, if you can't find the answer yourself, nobody will be able to.
Even asking if something will become an anime should be off-topic because it's either a relatively easy yes-no question or a question where the answer may become obsolete. The answer can change, making the previously correct answer wrong.
Only unchangeable, plot-related questions should be allowed, and these types of questions generally don't fit under that category. I think for related questions that don't fit under the descriptions in my previous two paragraphs shouldn't necessarily be flat-out called off-topic but should have to have unchangeable, plot-related answers to be on-topic.
Upvotes: 1 |
2013/01/20 | 1,338 | 5,147 | <issue_start>username_0: A lot of anime are, inarguably, quite graphic. Many sport blood, open flesh wounds, nudity, and several other "mature" themes. Now, in order to effectively illustrate some answers, detailed written descriptions or images must be provided. [This is one such question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2076/274), which contains graphic imagery of the aftereffects of severe bite wounds.
Do other StackExchange sites have policies on this? If so, what are they, and should we adhere to them? To what extent do we allow such images?<issue_comment>username_1: I don't know what the policy is on other SE sites, but if there's a network-wide policy on graphic images we should follow that. My answer is basically the same as Eric's comment, but I made an answer so that it could be voted on.
I don't think we should be worried about graphic violence in images posted here. The only people who will read the question and answer linked to are users here or people who google for something related to Highschool of the Dead. In the former case, SE requires all users to be at least 13, and generally a user here should know that HOTD is a fairly graphic series if they intend to click on the question. In the latter case, anyone searching HOTD is sure to have seen plenty of graphic content related to the series, so we shouldn't be worried about that either. If you have especially graphic or disturbing images, a spoiler tag could be used with a warning, but I don't think we should require it in general.
Nudity should not be allowed, mostly because it's unprofessional and usually unnecessary. Some people may check this site from work computers, so any NSFW sexual content should not be shown. SE has a [policy](http://stackexchange.com/legal/content-policy) banning sexually explicit and pornographic material, which of course is a bit ambiguous. I'd lean on the safe side here and say that anything questionable should not be directly posted here.
The SE policy above explicitly includes links to sexually explicit content or pornography. I personally have no problem with people linking to NSFW content with an appropriate warning if it is absolutely necessary to ask/answer the question (and if it's an acceptable question). But until an SE employee clarifies this, even if you are not violating our site's policy, you may be violating SE global policy. I doubt you'd be banned for that if you are legitimately using the site properly, but I don't know for sure so tread with caution.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I want to refer you to **[this answer](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/122152/166899)** by **[<NAME>](https://meta.stackoverflow.com/users/155160/anna-lear)**:
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There isn't a clear Stack Exchange policy on the matter, so the subject is rather patchy.
In my eyes we shouldn't limit users to question about more graphical anime, and even plain hentai, as they both fall into the category of this site.
Graphical images (even mildly) rarely have use in this site, but as with all other images, it should only be allowed if it is relevant to the post in question.
We should probably also add to our FAQ that the site may contain mature content.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/01/30 | 2,210 | 8,611 | <issue_start>username_0: In the **[first brainstorming session](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/6697/anime-and-manga?tab=conversations)**, we've discussed the status of "list" questions on Anime and Manga.
What are list questions?
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Any question which asks for a list of items as the answer. Some examples:
* <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2213/is-there-a-definitive-list-of-zombie-anime-out-there-or-in-the-making>
* [What Bankais exist within Soul Society?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/820/what-bankais-exist-within-soul-society)
The status of such questions was controversial, we aimed to officially define the position of such questions.
We've come to the following conclusions:
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### [The status of "list" questions](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/conversation/list-questions-brainstorming-2013-01-30)
A list question will generally be allowed, if it qualifies all 4 criteria below:
1. It is specific and to the point. Don't ask about list of abstract concepts or anime series featuring some theme.
2. The list items can be determined **objectively**. Don't ask about a list of our favorite things, or things we think are "good".
3. The list is reasonably scoped. If you can imagine an entire wiki-page listing your answer, the question is not reasonably scoped.
4. The list isn't prone to rapid change. If the list is hard to maintain, it won't be, thus losing its usefulness.
The fourth is a bit tricky. If the list proves to be useful enough to be maintained, a list changing rapidly can be fine. It's tricky and will be defined better once we have more users.<issue_comment>username_1: For questions that don't satisfy the 4 criteria, here is how we have decided they will be dealt with:
* If it fails #1, close as "unclear what you're asking" because it's hard to tell what is being asked.
* If it fails #2, close as "primarily opinion-based" because it's subjective.
* If it fails #3, close as "too broad" because it isn't reasonably scoped.
* If it fails #4, this will be handled on a case-by-case basis.
On #4, the important part is whether the list can be sufficiently be maintained and kept up to date so that it is still useful.
If it cannot be maintained, then we may lean towards closing the question. If it can be maintained, then it will be kept.
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This may seem very strict, but it is necessary to filter out list questions that have the potential to degrade into an unconstructive mess.
Examples of lists question that passes all 4 criteria are:
* "What are all the level 5's in the Index/Railgun universe?"
* "What are all the shows that X director has produced?"
Note that this is not to say that these are *good* questions. They are just examples of questions that would be considered appropriate for the site.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_2: Anime/Manga recommendation *questions* (list or not) should, IMO, be expressly considered off topic. Most questions on "anime with a particular theme" can usually be answered by simply clicking on a tag in your favourite anime/manga database. In the case of the question, <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2825/titles-where-characters-are-in-trapped-in-a-game> , the tag is usually something along the lines of "play or die" and some combination of "game" or "video game".
While there should be the proverbial exception to any restrictive rule, it's best, IMO, to keep recommendation questions at a safe distance from this site. If they do have to be exceptionally accommodated, it should be achieved by rewording the question appropriately to fit within the rules of the site.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Different opinion: After seeing <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2825/titles-where-characters-are-in-trapped-in-a-game> - which fits all of our current list criteria, I have to say that I think list questions in general are a bad idea.
Look at both of the answers for that question. Which one is better? Why? The best answer to a list question would be a community answer where everyone inputs their own contribution for one full list. But as it is now, aren't list questions just a contest of who can answer first or who has the longer list?
Maybe it's just me, but I think something like that shouldn't be the criteria for a good answer on SE.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: Concerning the question: [List of anime with correct animation of the characters playing musical instrument](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3758/list-of-anime-with-correct-animation-of-the-characters-playing-musical-instrumen), also related to this meta post: [Do we still like questions asking for lists of anime/manga/etc.?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/470/do-we-still-like-questions-asking-for-lists-of-anime-manga-etc/)
This definitely falls into the out of universe list and it would seem to abide by the 4 criteria for a list question. The problem I think is how the "reasonably scoped" part is interpreted. In this meta post it seems that the scoping mainly applies to how many items end up on a list, and it should, since asking for all shows that feature a pet is probably a really long list. In the case of the question about characters playing music, the resulting list is probably not going to be incredibly long. So it appears to satisfy the scoping criteria.
I thought that it may have been brought up during the chat (I can't remember) but should the scoping also include the set of items, shows, manga, etc that the list is derived from? When the question asks for something resulting in a relatively small list (e.g. "List of anime that has a character that is wearing a pinky ring") but the list is derived from every anime ever made, the scope is likely going to exceed what any one person can reasonably participate in. This doesn't mean that someone can't answer such a question by *posting a link to an already completed list*, but if such a list hasn't been created, and assuming nobody has watched every anime ever made (or a satisfyingly large percentage of them) and remembered enough details to create a list, this is going to be answered by committee, and people are going to list the shows that they've seen that match the criteria.
An example of a smaller scoping of the set that the list is derived from: "How many Lupin III movies/specials didn't have Fujiko?". The resulting list is reasonably scoped, we're not going to get all that many, maybe a dozen?. But the set of anime that the list draws from also isn't every anime ever made (10k?, more?) but the list of Lupin movies, which is maybe 30 or 40.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_5: I made a new self-answer list question here: [List of manga chapters animated in Hayate no Gotoku! Cuties](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3888/list-of-manga-chapters-animated-in-hayate-no-gotoku-cuties)
Since I write the question and answer myself, I get the experience when faced with list question from both sides: the asker and the answerer. **I am posting this to express my own experience when I post a list question and self-answer it, and also to do a self-evaluation of my question against the closing guideline.**
There are 2 close reasons that may apply, which are NC and NARQ:
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My question can be supported by facts or references. I cannot imagine how it will solicit debate and argument, although it might becomes a polling session if the answers are not complete. *I decided to make it a self-answer style of question, so that the answers are not spread across different posts*.
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> It's difficult to tell what is being asked here. This question is ambiguous, vague, incomplete, overly broad, or rhetorical and cannot be reasonably answered in its current form. For help clarifying this question so that it can be reopened, see the FAQ.
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I am quite sure myself it is not ambiguous, vague or incomplete.
However, it was a bit tedious to write the answer. It took me an hour or two searching through the manga. It is slightly broad, but the information will be quite disorganized if I try to split it up into many questions.
Upvotes: 0 |
2013/01/31 | 698 | 2,984 | <issue_start>username_0: Doujin can either be fan-fiction or original stories. Some get adapted into anime or published manga.
It would be a good idea to establish a criteria for what, if anything, would make a doujin series acceptable for the site.
On that same note, would questions about the doujin industry itself be acceptable?<issue_comment>username_1: Since "Manga" is a "Japanese-style comic". Doujinshi fall into that category.
I see no problem about asking questions regarding doujinshi.
You should take note though, not many people know doujinshi compared to "normal" manga.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Doujin works vary a huge amount as to how well-known they are, with some popular enough to get official English translations while others struggle to sell a dozen copies. It would be really difficult to establish strict guidelines for what is on-topic and what is off-topic. Rather than trying to decide, which would be pretty difficult, especially if no one with close-votes has read it before, we should not set any limits in terms of popularity. A question about doujin works still needs to be on-topic and constructive, the same as any other question, but there should not be additional requirements.
However, asking about doujin works which are entirely unknown is unlikely to result in your question being answered. At the moment, we have fewer than 100 "avid users", so if your question is about something that fewer than 1% of anime fans know about, you're better off asking elsewhere. While questions about these sorts of things should be considered on-topic, at least if they meet all the normal criteria, if there's basically no hope of the question getting answered, users can still decide that they think it's a bad question, and downvote it as such.
As for questions about the doujin industry, that's sort of pushing it. People working on doujin works are usually amateurs, and there isn't very much information available, even if you can read Japanese. There are some exceptions ([Ryukishi07](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryukishi07) and [ZUN](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_Shanghai_Alice) come to mind), but that is the general trend. As such, while we allow questions about the work itself, questions about the industry are borderline at best. There's a bit of debate if we should even allow questions about the anime industry, and some of these questions have been closed (some have also stayed open and gotten many upvotes, so it's a matter of construction). Questions about the doujin industry are almost universally going to be difficult to definitively answer and very rarely will be of interest to the community here.
Hence, we should not allow such questions in general. There may be rare cases that are allowed in which a question is well-constructed, definitely answerable using information available to the public, and interesting to a fairly large number of users, but those are not the norm.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer] |
2013/01/31 | 1,081 | 4,107 | <issue_start>username_0: In the **[first brainstorming session](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/6697/anime-and-manga?tab=conversations)**, we've discussed **[the site's member recruitment model](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/conversation/member-recruitment-brainstorming-session-2013-01-30)**
We have decided to take the following steps:
1. Make a list of 5-10 series which would interest an audience of experts in anime/manga. **[Logan M](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/24/logan-m)** and **[Mystical](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/17/mysticial)** are on it.
2. Seed the sites with good, high quality questions on those shows. **Leave some of them unanswered to attract experts with an answer.**
3. Post links to most voted and strongest questions on Reddit, IRC and possibly on 4chan/a/.
We will continue to track the progress of the recruitment state, and will present it in later sessions.<issue_comment>username_1: ~~Spam~~ Spread our site is certainly the best way. There are many ways (I'll be making a detailed post for everybody to benefit from):
* Share questions in your FB, Twitter, G+, etc accounts. In order to do this, click the `share` button below each question.
Now you can click the buttons and a pop-up will help you share the link. Or you can just copy the link and paste it wherever you need it.
* When participating in other forums you can, when possible, mention the site.
* Share a link to the site in your own SE profile bio.
Can't think of more things to do, but this should a good start.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: ### First and foremost:
*anyone with a blog or a forum system should definitely spare a line or two and spread the site*. That is the best way, because it gives good SEO links, and has a very accurate audience reception.
### Also
* Find friends of yours who are interested and invite them over (I've gotten 3 users that way already).
* When answering questions in anime/manga forums, post links to similar answers you've wrote/read on this site. **[You get badges for it too!](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/63684/how-do-i-share-a-link-for-the-new-badges)**
* Post to Facebook/Google+. Maybe friends, or friends of friends are interested and will follow your link!
* Check in your favorite chat rooms (on SE or IRC, whatever), and tell them all about it!
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: [Creating community ads for the other sites would be an excellent way of promoting our site within the Stack Exchange Network.](https://gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5602/community-promotion-ads-2013?cb=1) We probably won't want to advertise on all of the sites, but creating an ad on SFF seems like a good idea, and I believe Arqade would be another good site to target with an ad.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: I would recommend keeping an eye on questions on SFF.se, movies.se, and possible japanese.se an ensure that those who ask anime/manga questions are made aware of the existence of this site.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_4: In terms of quality, I personally find Naruto, Bleach, DBZ, and even One Piece questions rather trying. There are about 3 million sites out there which cater to these anime. While it's impossible to clamp down on questions from these titles, what can be improved is the signal-to-noise ratio: ask more questions on other titles and ensure that they get comprehensive answers.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_5: I've managed to get more reputation here than almost any other Stack Exchange, but I still have a hard time think of any kind of question that would be a good fit.
I like the idea of an anime stack exchange, but most of the questions I would want to ask are discussion or opinion based, not objective. I see a lot of on hold topics, and in reading some other meta posts, I see that list topics and recommendations seem to have gone away, with the example questions deleted.
So... I'm a member of this Stack Exchange thinking "What can I do with it?"
Upvotes: -1 |
2013/01/31 | 2,963 | 11,494 | <issue_start>username_0: I've been looking at the tags and I was looking at some of the chat from yesterday and saw that we have a really skewed number of questions. Are there some shows/manga that we want to attract/generate more questions for? And is there a good way to do that?<issue_comment>username_1: Yes this is indeed a huge issue right now as the site right now is mostly dominated by Naruto.
There is a significant lack of representation for the Type B fan genre. (Namely those who watch fansubs/raws and new shows.)
For example, [Madoka](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica) is one of the most popular shows in this genre. And yet we have only 3 questions in that tag compared to over 70 for Naruto.
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[LoganM](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/24/logan-m) and I are compiling a list of Anime in this genre and are actively seeding questions from that list. (some of which we probably already know the answers to)
Here's the list that I dumped in chat - just to give an idea of what kind of shows we need more of.
As of yesterday, there were no questions in any of these shows. (there are now since I've seeded a few)
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Angel Beats!
Accel World
Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu
Black Lagoon
Fractale
Ga-Rei Zero
Guilty Crown
Gunslinger Girl
Hanasaku Iroha
Hyouka
Kami nomi zo Shiru Sekai
K-On!
Kannagi
Macross Frontier
Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha
Ore no Imouto ga Konnani Kawaii Wake ga Nai
Shakugan no Shana
Tari Tari
Tasogare Otome x Amnesia
The iDOLM@STER
Tiger & Bunny
Toaru Kagaku no Railgun
Toaru Majutsu no Index
Zero no Tsukaima
```
Since I only watch shows in this Type B (fansub/new shows) category, I'm actually running down my own MAL list and asking every decent question I can think of - regardless of whether I know the answer or not.
Basically, we're trying to get the volume up in this genre as much as possible as they will be needed to attract this audience.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Mystical's answer is good. Some of those now have one or more questions from the past 24 hours. However, it is ultimately missing some things as well.
I don't think it's an issue of particular shows. We want more questions for all shows. But we also have an interest in keeping genres balanced so that all users can freely ask and answer questions about the shows that interest them. Right now that is the case for Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, and a handfull of other action/shounen shows. But there aren't many questions from other genres. That makes it hard for new users to contribute, and it's a bit off-putting if you only see one genre on the main page unless you are a fan of that genre. If we went viral right now, we'd be a hit in the Naruto community, but we'd have trouble bringing anyone else in, which would only make the problem worse. What we want is balance, so that we can attract a wide range of users whose interests span all of anime and manga.
The solution is definitely **not** to lower the number of shounen questions. That would require us to stop people from using the site the way they are supposed to be. We should strive to be a good resource for all genres, and we're already doing that for shounen. Now we need to expand to other genres. The list we put together is a good place to start, but if we stop there we will have just become a reference for those shows. It's got almost no shoujo or jousei works, which is a pretty big problem. It also has no sports shows, and we've had very few sports questions so far. Mecha is also underrepresented on the main site and on the list. And finally that list is tilted heavily towards newer anime. There may be more issues that I have not identified as well.
**So what can you do?**
First, if you're primarily interested in shounen, keep doing what you're doing. We need a continued supply of good questions and answers in order to keep people visiting the site. You might also consider checking out some other series from different genres if you see one that looks interesting on the main site, but you aren't obligated to do that.
If you're interested in other genres, you should ask questions about shows in those genres. It's fine to ask even if you know the answer. In fact, you can even [answer the question yourself](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/07/its-ok-to-ask-and-answer-your-own-questions/) if you know the answer. You might want to keep the question open for a little while before you do, because it could bring in answers from other interested people. The list on Mystical's answer is a good place to get started if you can't think of anything. Make sure they're good questions, though. You shouldn't ask a question just for the sake of putting it on the main page; it should be something that someone might want to know in the future. This is called seeding, and it's encouraged on beta sites.
Also, don't spam new questions just for this purpose. This may seem contradictory to the above, but it really isn't. We want to maintain balance, and if one user asks a lot of questions in a short period of time, that isn't maintaining balance. Instead of that, save that third or fourth question for another day. Right now the main page is actually very diverse, so there isn't too much need for new questions unless it fills some hole. If, in 48 hours, the main page has a lot of shounen questions, that's the right time to post some more.
If you see a question that seems like low-hanging fruit that was posted for the purpose of seeding, you should ask yourself if you really need the reputation for answering it. Sure, you can provide a good answer, but so can a new user who is looking to get started on the site. Part of the purpose of asking these questions is to increase the accessibility of the site to those who aren't knowledgeable about shounen specifically, and giving them some easier questions doesn't hurt that. If you're having trouble building up rep because the shows on the main site aren't diverse enough, then you should definitely answer, because you're the people who are supposed to benefit from it the most. If the question goes for a while with no answers, then anyone should feel free to answer it, but as long as it's on the main page, people are still looking at it. For this reason, I don't intend to answer any of these questions unless they clearly aren't going to be answered any time soon, and I'd recommend that other high rep users do the same.
Finally, don't forget to upvote questions you find interesting. This is especially important for the seeding questions, because it's just not as fun asking and answering questions when you only get +5 or +10 per question. These questions won't survive if we don't keep upvoting the interesting ones.
For now, Mystical and I are mostly dedicated to this, and a few other users like Krazer are helping. Anyone else is welcome to help. I don't think there's an immediate need for more questions from anime like the ones Mystical listed *right now*; instead, we should let the first wave gradually be answered and keep adding a few more whenever the balance gets worse. However, we're still lacking in other genres, particularly shoujo and jousei, so those should be a high priority. Right now, we've actually had the opposite effect: Naruto is pushed all the way to the 28th question. So we should hold off from the list shows for a little while and let the site reach a more stable balance before we add more. I have no doubt that in a day or two we'll need some more to rebalance the site.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: I am not sure that is such a bad thing. As a whole, this site's population represents the demographics of the real world anime/manga fans. That means, there are more [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'") questions here *because* more people follow it. In other words, if you randomly pick an anime/manga fan, he/she is more likely to be following Naruto. That's not easy to change.
Any artificial means to "correct" the demographics would be futile *for now*. Let's say, I feel like I should correct it, and start watching some relatively rare anime. Then I ask questions, but what's this? No one answers, because no one else watches them! The other alternative is *answer my own question*, but what purpose does it serve, if no one else finds it useful?
However, I am not entirely pessimistic on this. As more people join, we would hopefully have more "non-Naruto" fans (here, I use Naruto to represent the other popular series as well), and then we would hopefully get more questions on other anime too. However, the distribution will always be skewed in favour of Naruto and other popular anime.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_4: The more useful point, rather than what series would we like more questions for, is how to attract the sort of people to get invoved in the site who know the answers to questions about other series and genres.
username_1's list above was comprised of then-airing series, which I watch, but conspicuously did not contain a single shoujo, josei, children's, etc. series to generate more diversity of content (as noted in comments above). However, the problem with simply having people like me (who are quite knowledgeable about pretty much all shoujo series from the 1970s to the present) ask more questions is not going to fix the lack of questions, because what is needed is more people who can answer the questions.
I have asked a number of questions (such as [1](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/13848/in-what-episode-of-sailor-moon-did-michiru-neptune-meet-mamoru-tuxedo-kamen), [2](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/14297/why-can-sailor-pluto-be-away-from-the-space-time-door-starting-in-s-season), [3](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/13797/name-suffixes-does-yaten-sailor-star-healer-ever-refer-to-usagi-sailor-moon), [4](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/13798/how-rare-is-it-to-find-an-anime-script-from-the-late-1990s-for-purchase)) which are not about extreme minutia or obscure series, but when no one is able to answer them and no one is interested in them enough to even upvote them, my reputation suffers because these questions did not generate enough response from others (I've certainly earned the Tumbleweed badge). If people can't answer simple questions about *Sailor Moon*, I can imagine the lack of response I would get if I asked a question about classic shoujo anime such as *Mahou no Mako-chan* or *Seine no Hoshi* or even something contemporary such as *Chihayafuru*. So to keep my reputation up and my time not wasted, I practically need to ask questions that either 1) I can expect someone already knows the answer to or 2) someone can Google search to find the answer for me, and I need to at the same time avoid posting questions that 1) I imagine not many people here already know the answer to and 2) cannot be easily found by web search but would instead require the answerer to have actually watched the show in order to know the answer. In other words, if my asking questions about a popular series is met with few views, only 0 or 1 or 2 upvotes, and no answers, I'm not motivated to ask more of the same nor to ask more niche questions than those. If someone else is attracted to the site who is knowledgeable in the genre, then I would become more motivated to post more questions, and the number of questions and answers would both increase.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/02/01 | 1,356 | 4,438 | <issue_start>username_0: Currently we have the tags:
* [a-certain-magical-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/a-certain-magical-index "show questions tagged 'a-certain-magical-index'")
* [railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/railgun "show questions tagged 'railgun'")
Which refer to:
* "A Certain Magical Index" or "Toaru Majutsu no Index"
* "A Certain Scientific Railgun" or "Toaru Kagaku no Railgun"
which are sister series in the same universe.
However, [a-certain-scientific-railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/a-certain-scientific-railgun "show questions tagged 'a-certain-scientific-railgun'") is too long to be a tag. So we currently use [railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/railgun "show questions tagged 'railgun'") instead.
But given that these two series go together, there will likely be many questions with both tags.
An example of which is: [How is Misaka's railgun so destructive?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2235/how-is-misakas-railgun-so-destructive)
But it seems inconsistent to use the full name for one, and the shortened name for the other.
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So what should we do?
**Option 1:** Shorten them to [index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/index "show questions tagged 'index'") and [railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/railgun "show questions tagged 'railgun'"). And synonymize [a-certain-magical-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/a-certain-magical-index "show questions tagged 'a-certain-magical-index'") -> [index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/index "show questions tagged 'index'")
**Option 2:** Switch them both to the Japanese names: [toaru-majutsu-no-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/toaru-majutsu-no-index "show questions tagged 'toaru-majutsu-no-index'") and [toaru-kagaku-no-railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/toaru-kagaku-no-railgun "show questions tagged 'toaru-kagaku-no-railgun'"). (Both of which fit.) And then synonymize [a-certain-magical-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/a-certain-magical-index "show questions tagged 'a-certain-magical-index'") -> [toaru-majutsu-no-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/toaru-majutsu-no-index "show questions tagged 'toaru-majutsu-no-index'").
**Option 3:** Leave them inconsistent as is with: [a-certain-magical-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/a-certain-magical-index "show questions tagged 'a-certain-magical-index'") and [railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/railgun "show questions tagged 'railgun'")
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If you have other ideas, please post them.<issue_comment>username_1: Vote this up for **Option 1**.
Shorten them to [index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/index "show questions tagged 'index'") and [railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/railgun "show questions tagged 'railgun'"). And synonymize [a-certain-magical-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/a-certain-magical-index "show questions tagged 'a-certain-magical-index'") -> [index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/index "show questions tagged 'index'")
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_1: Vote this up for **Option 2**.
Switch them both to the Japanese names: [toaru-majutsu-no-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/toaru-majutsu-no-index "show questions tagged 'toaru-majutsu-no-index'") and [toaru-kagaku-no-railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/toaru-kagaku-no-railgun "show questions tagged 'toaru-kagaku-no-railgun'"). (Both of which fit.) And then synonymize [a-certain-magical-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/a-certain-magical-index "show questions tagged 'a-certain-magical-index'") -> [toaru-majutsu-no-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/toaru-majutsu-no-index "show questions tagged 'toaru-majutsu-no-index'").
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_1: Vote this up for **Option 3**.
Leave them inconsistent as is with: [a-certain-magical-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/a-certain-magical-index "show questions tagged 'a-certain-magical-index'") and [railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/railgun "show questions tagged 'railgun'")
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/02/02 | 383 | 1,464 | <issue_start>username_0: "Anime Physics" is the commonly accepted term for anything dealing with the physics or mechanics in the Anime/Manga universe.
**Option 1:** [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'")
1. It is the standard and most commonly recognized term.
2. The "anime" part seems redundant since this **is** an Anime and Manga site.
3. The "anime" part seems to implicitly exclude Manga despite the term being mostly universal.
**Option 2:** [physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/physics "show questions tagged 'physics'")
1. It removes the redundancy of "anime" since it is already implied.
2. It confuses "Anime Physics" with actual *real* physics.
3. It applies equally to both Anime and Manga.
What we don't want is two tags: [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'") and [manga-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-physics "show questions tagged 'manga-physics'")<issue_comment>username_1: Vote this up for **Option 1:** [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'")
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_1: Vote this up for **Option 2:** [physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/physics "show questions tagged 'physics'")
Upvotes: 1 |
2013/02/04 | 863 | 3,276 | <issue_start>username_0: This probably overlaps heavily with [Can you ask questions even if the answer is easily found elsewhere?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/112/can-you-ask-questions-even-if-the-answer-is-easily-found-elsewhere), but two differences being:
1. The answer lies *within the series* if you pay close attention
2. You answer it yourself.
Example:
**What were the rules of the written round of the Chunin exams?**
Obviously the answer is found in-series, but not everyone would remember it, so the community might still find it useful.
However, you wouldn't want *too* obvious questions (**What is <NAME>'s first name and last name?**). I think the community would decide if something is useful or not through the usual up/down voting.
(Note I am aware of [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'") questions hogging the limelight here. I only used it for examples above since it is the most popular tag.)
If the community approves of it, I will go ahead with posting some such questions. My intention is NOT upvote farming (though I don't mind getting some upvotes. ;)).
I get a feeling that most of the time we try to think up the most complicated questions to ask here. If we lower the bar a little (only a little), it might attract some more users.
What do you think?<issue_comment>username_1: There's nothing wrong with posting questions you know the answers to, and answer them yourself.
As a matter of fact, we already have a recruitment model (it's found here on meta), we agreed that we should seed the site with questions from various series, in order to attract users.
However, note that we aim for the so-called experts. We want folks who've seen a lot, read a lot and know a lot. These folks will ask good questions and give great answers.
If we fill out site with (no offense) kids who only ever watched Naruto up to episode 50, the site will look and operate accordingly.
There's nothing wrong with asking and answering your own question, it's even encouraged! But please try to adhere to the recruitment model for now, we haven't even begun phase 2 of it.
Long story short: do it to share your knowledge, not to attract users.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Doing Q&A faq style questions is allowed and even desired in SE sites. ([There is this blog post by <NAME>](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/07/its-ok-to-ask-and-answer-your-own-questions/)).
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> * if you have a question that you already know the answer to
> * if you’d like to document it in public so others (including yourself) can find it later
> * it is OK to ask, and answer, your own question on a relevant Stack Exchange site.
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> To be crystal clear, **it is not merely OK to ask and answer your own question, it is *explicitly encouraged*.**[sic]
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As long as your question (and answer) is within the guidelines, structured, well phrased and relevant, there is nothing on the difficulty of the question.
Many users ask questions a google search away, and these questions are alright, if they meet the basic criteria.
You can even use SE sites as a flashcards / knowledge base of sorts.
TL;DR: yes.
Upvotes: 0 |
2013/02/08 | 835 | 3,406 | <issue_start>username_0: I noticed the [currently-airing](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/currently-airing "show questions tagged 'currently-airing'") tag created recently. <NAME>'s proposed tag description also includes `ongoing manga series`. Should we instead name it as [ongoing](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/ongoing "show questions tagged 'ongoing'")? "Airing" seems to apply only to anime.
There are a couple of other questions:
1. How do we handle keeping the posts updated, when a series ends? I know, this won't happen so often that we need to audit posts daily.
2. What posts should use this tags? A significant proportion of our questions (even excluding [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'")) are on ongoing series, so should they all use this tag?<issue_comment>username_1: I added the description to include manga simply because there wasn't a manga related tag, but in retrospect, I think the [currently-airing](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/currently-airing "show questions tagged 'currently-airing'") tag should only apply to anime mainly because of how the two are produced. There's a lot of manga series, which doesn't necessarily have to follow a regular release schedule like an anime TV series does, which are ongoing. The manga medium allows the writers and publishers to produce chapters almost indefinitely, whereas a slotted TV series really doesn't have that option.
It seems that a lot of the manga related questions right now are all of series that are ongoing. However, a majority of the anime series that have questions are shows that have ended, or at the very least, has a foreseeable end to the show. Thus having the [currently-airing](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/currently-airing "show questions tagged 'currently-airing'") tag would be more meaningful.
This does raise the question of how to deal with the tag on anime questions where the anime has ended, yet the question was asked when it was still airing.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: I think we shouldn't have this tag at all.
When you ask a question with the [currently-airing](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/currently-airing "show questions tagged 'currently-airing'") or even [ongoing](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/ongoing "show questions tagged 'ongoing'") tag, what does that mean?
Are you asking about the fact that it's ongoing? Are you asking about the process of releasing ongoing series? No, you're asking about a series, which happens to be ongoing.
For instance, I ask a question regarding to how to make a table, I'll tag it [table](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/table "show questions tagged 'table'"), [construction](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/construction "show questions tagged 'construction'"), but I won't tag it [hammer](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/hammer "show questions tagged 'hammer'"), just because I happen to use one.
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In my eyes, the [ongoing](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/ongoing "show questions tagged 'ongoing'") or [currently-airing](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/currently-airing "show questions tagged 'currently-airing'") is a meta tag. We don't need it.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer] |
2013/02/14 | 778 | 3,030 | <issue_start>username_0: Title state's most of my question.
I have been wondering as it is the anime/manga section can we talk about site's such as
[myanimlist](http://myanimlist.net)
Why should we use it. why is it easy to use and such
Or talk about certain site's were we can watch/read certain anime/ manga ?
Some serie's can't be watched on one site but can be seen on another.<issue_comment>username_1: Very few of such sites (Online sites for watching anime/reading manga) are legal. There's a giant legal blur over these sites because the law changes from country to country and from site to site based on usage.
For that reason we decided to avoid the trap hole and disallow these questions completely.
Unless the site in question is official, and the question is constructive (i.e.not "Should I use this site?"), it's probably not welcome here. If your question answers the above criteria, go ahead and ask it! We'll be happy to answer it.
As for *My Anime List* specifically, it's very likely that any question you may ask here is either off-topic (as it should be directed to their support), or not constructive (as it would be a recommendation question).
So here's what you do, ask it anyway. At the worst case, it would be closed.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: MAL links to fansub groups and is therefore sketchy in terms of legality. The same applies to any other site that provides information on fansubbers and scanlators.
Most mainstream titles and their associated characters, cast, and other staff are listed on [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal%3aAnime_and_manga). [Anime News Network](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/)'s encyclopaedia is also a safe bet. Even [IMDb](http://www.imdb.com) lists many anime titles. [Wikia](http://www.wikia.com/Wikia) is another option for popular titles.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: While MAL may link to fansub groups, they also have a credible and moderated (moderated as in normal users cannot post to the news section without their submission being reviewed by staff) [news section](http://myanimelist.net/forum/?board=15). From my own experience on MAL, I know that at least one of their news staff is fluent in Japanese and occasionally posts translated news before ANN.
In [one of my own answers](https://anime.stackexchange.com/a/917/107), I included a link to a MAL news article as a source. I found the MAL article much more useful than the equivalent ANN article because the ANN article simply summarized the tweets as "careless remarks" while the MAL article translated the whole tweets (which are probably deleted by now).
While asking questions about how to use MAL are certainly off topic for this SE, I don't think links to MAL news articles as sources should be discredited just because they link to fansub groups on other parts of the site.
If ANN also included links to fansub groups, would we disallow them too? How would we be able to find sources for some answers?
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/02/14 | 886 | 3,456 | <issue_start>username_0: It seems like a lot of tags that are anything other than "series-name" become the subject of debate in meta. So, what other tags are actually OK? You don't really need to list every other tag that is OK. It would probably be more helpful to describe what makes some of these other tags acceptable.
I raise this question because it seems a little odd that so many questions only have one tag (their series name).
To quote [Madara Uchiha](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/301/how-should-we-deal-with-meta-and-dependent-tags/305#305) (the user, not the character):
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The only ones that generally make sense are for covering non-specific-anime topics, such as [production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/production "show questions tagged 'production'"), [anime-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-history "show questions tagged 'anime-history'"), or [voice-actors](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/voice-actors "show questions tagged 'voice-actors'").
There are a few other tags like [japanese-language](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/japanese-language "show questions tagged 'japanese-language'"), or [3d-animation](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/3d-animation "show questions tagged '3d-animation'")/[visual-effects](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/visual-effects "show questions tagged 'visual-effects'") or [doujinshi](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/doujinshi "show questions tagged 'doujinshi'")/[fan-works](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fan-works "show questions tagged 'fan-works'") that could be added onto a series-name. The criteria for these is that someone who is not at all interested in a series might still follow these tags and be helpful for any random questioner. (respectively, a language student, an animator, and someone active in the doujin scene)
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: As a general rule of thumb, ask yourself "Could there be an expert on this subject?"
There **can** be an expert on the following subjects (for example, not limited to):
* Naruto ([series-name-here](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/series-name-here "show questions tagged 'series-name-here'"))
* [anime-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-production "show questions tagged 'anime-production'") or [manga-production]
* [anime-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-history "show questions tagged 'anime-history'")
There probably **cannot** be an expert on the following:
* [characters](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/characters "show questions tagged 'characters'") and [character-abilities](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/character-abilities "show questions tagged 'character-abilities'")
* [variations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/variations "show questions tagged 'variations'")
* [opening-songs](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/opening-songs "show questions tagged 'opening-songs'")
These tags are under discussion right now, we aren't sure about whether to keep them or not.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer] |
2013/02/16 | 508 | 1,820 | <issue_start>username_0: In our [4th chat session](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/conversation/content-managing-for-fb-and-g-4-chat-cast), we have decided to choose a manager for our [Google+ page](https://plus.google.com/111061084179563499110/posts) content.
This person should have enough free time to maintain our page there, and be well familiarized with the interface of the site. They should also be well-versed in managing a community, and finding and posting about interesting topics to attract users.
Some notes
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* Each nomination should be posted as a separate answer.
* Link the name to your profile (parent and meta) so everyone can see your activity.
* Links to other sites that can also be helpful to the community's understanding of your 'expertise' are also welcome, along with some description you find fitting.<issue_comment>username_1: I don't have much time at the moment but I can take care of the page, if no one decides to take the mantle.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: * **[Anime.SE profile](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/274/eric)**
* **[Meta profile](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/users/274/eric)**
* **[G+ profile](http://gplus.to/ekumlin)**
My own G+ feed has little activity, due mostly to not liking to self-indulge on content; my activity is mostly in commenting and visiting communities ([Anime](https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/107398296600629207634) included). I'll have no problem posting new content to the page's feed, though.
In terms of managing communities, I've had a presence on more than one Wiki, as well as programming-related forums for quite a while, and one in a gaming community. (Links to these omitted as the communities' members have moved on to new things and the forums shut down.)
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer] |
2013/02/17 | 898 | 3,749 | <issue_start>username_0: We all love [Anime and Manga - Stack Exchange](http://anime.stackexchange.com), but there is a whole world of people out there who need answers to their questions and don't even know that this site exists. When they arrive from Google, what will their first impression be? Let's try to look at this site through the eyes of someone who's never seen it before, and see how we stack up against the rest of the 'Net.
The [Site Evaluation review queue](https://anime.stackexchange.com/review/site-eval) is open and populated with 10 questions that were asked and answered in the last quarter. Run a few Google searches to see how easy they are to find and compare the answers we have with the information available on other sites.
Rating the questions is only a part of the puzzle, though. Do you see a pattern of questions that should have been closed but are not? Questions or answers that could use an edit? Anything that's going really well? **Post an answer below to share your thoughts** and discuss these questions and the site's health with your fellow users!<issue_comment>username_1: [Is the Hyuuga main family's juinjutsu a Swastika?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/864/is-the-hyga-main-familys-juinjutsu-a-swastika)
It is difficult to Google this question, and I suspect that it is because of the "ū" symbol in the title.
When I searched for *hyuga juinjutsu swastika*, there was an anime SE result on the second page, but it was actually for [a list of new questions](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions?page=4&sort=newest) instead of the question itself. When I searched for *hyuuga juinjutsu swastika*, I found many other sites' explanations, but anime SE was nowhere to be found until page four where it linked to the same list of new questions again.
Yes, if I search *hyūga juinjutsu swastika*, the actual question is the very first result. But how many people are going to go to the effort of finding this special symbol just to Google a quick question about an anime series?
I suggest that we try to avoid using "special symbols" in romanization in order to increase search hits.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Anyone doing the site evaluation should be willing to put in some effort and time. Copy pasting the question title as is into Google search box doesn't help much. It rarely happens that people post the same question using the exact same phrase on other sites, so that way our question will always end up on the front page, if not at the top of the list.
Taking the example given in another answer "Is the Hyūga main family's juinjutsu a Swastika?", the words Hyūga and juinjutsu are not used as often, so naturally our question takes the top spot. When I instead searched for "Is the Hyuuga clan's symbol a swastika?", I did not find our question on the first **20** pages. Moreover, although the answer written here is great, I found better answers on other sites listed on page 1 (Better is subjective and no offense meant to the person who posted that answer here). Hence, my rating for this question was "Needs Improvement".
Remember that the purpose of site evaluation is to measure how likely people are to come to our site through search engines. We should therefore search the phrase that an average person would enter into the search engine. Simply asking our question to the search engine, and then throwing a party when it comes up on top (that is, rating as "Excellent") doesn't really serve any purpose.
**Edit** Note that a "Needs Improvement" rating does not necessarily mean that the question or answer is bad. The way the Site Evaluation criteria is currently implemented, it seems the rating includes both quality and searchability.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/02/18 | 1,151 | 4,394 | <issue_start>username_0: I was wondering if we should be doing edits such as <https://anime.stackexchange.com/posts/2549/revisions>. It only changes 'chakara' to 'chakra' and 'Jiraya' to 'Jiraiya'. I think that we should avoid making edits which only changes romanization, because it can lead to unnecessary ill-feeling, and potentially drive users away if it is done too often. I suggest that when there is no one correct known romanization, let the OP keep what they used.
Thus, for example, in Naruto, don't change Hyuuga to Hyuga (or vice versa), but changing Peine to Pain is okay, because that name intentionally uses the English word Pain. In your own answer though, use whatever you prefer (or even switch to OP's preference, if you wish).
No offence meant to Chetter Hummin, who is obviously trying to help.
**EDIT** Based on Logan M's answer, I think the example chosen is not a good one, so let me try with something else. Fairy Tail will offer plenty.
* Jellal or Gerard?
* <NAME> or Loxar?
* Gray or Grey?
* Carla or Charle or Sharuru?
* Wendy Marvel or Marble?
* Ur or Ul?
I respectfully disagree that we should prefer whatever Google search prefers (I know Logan M didn't imply this). Users who read scanlations or watch fansubs are likely to be familiar with one or the other, and I think we should we should be open to everyone. Of course, as mentioned above, if one correct agreed romanization is available, we should use that.<issue_comment>username_1: I voted to approve this edit because I saw it as correcting an error, not changing romanization style. If I do a google search for "Chakara" as the OP had written, Google gives me a "Did you mean chakra?" message. I was able to find some locations that spelled it "Chakara" in a Naruto context, but all of them are on forums and every semi-official source spells it "Chakra". I also noted that Chakra is originally written チャクラ in Japanese, which could be romanized as "Chakura" but not "Chakara" in any standard romanization scheme. Assuming Naruto is actually referencing the Hindu concept of [Chakra](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra), that also is almost universally spelled Chakra in English, not Chakara. The two would be pronounced fairly differently in Hindi.
I did not pay much attention to "Jiraya" vs "Jiraiya" because I don't know Naruto that well, but a quick Google search again demonstrates that the latter is preferred. Given that his name is written 自来也, it would not be romanized as Jiraya in any standard English romanization scheme (though it could be in some in French and Spanish if I understand correctly).
I agree that we should not be challenging the OP's choice of romanization style without good reason, but I think the case you've pointed to is a case of misspelling, not of differing romanization styles. Correcting spelling is a perfectly valid reason to edit a post, and the editor's explanation for the edit was "corrected spelling".
If the OP wants to switch to a different romanization style for the edited post, I don't think anyone will complain, but it should be spelled properly or else people are perfectly within their rights to edit it. Having lots of posts with poor spelling and grammar reflects poorly on our site. If anyone can provide any source which claims that "Chakara" and "Jiraya" are acceptable styles then I think it's fine to use them, but as far as I can tell "Chakara" is most commonly used to describe a [rare marine phenomenon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakara).
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I would like to add something to Logan's answer, which I generally agree with.
If the name can be romanized in different ways, all of which are good, then it should be up to the OP to chose, especially if the ambiguity is about something like `r-l` sounds, neither of which is "right" or "wrong". So if the OP choses "Ul" over "Ur", it's his right, and suggested edits that try to change this should be **rejected**. Same goes for the answers. If the question has "Ul", and I prefer "Ur", I will just use it in my own answer, and there is absolutely no need to also try to edit the name in the quesiton itself or other answers.
If, however, one version is generally preferred over the other, or if there is a clear type/misspelling ("Narooto"? xD), then the suggested edits that attempt to fix this should be **accepted**.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/02/18 | 2,962 | 11,022 | <issue_start>username_0: The way I see it, we need to expand our scope a little bit, to be able to accept questions from a far wider audience.
Very few people *only* watch anime/read manga. Most of them watch other series and play games related to the ones they watch.
So in the spirit of expanding our site on the social plane, I'd like to expand the scope.
What do you think? I want as many opinions as possible on this subject, don't be afraid to post answers even if similar ones are there already.<issue_comment>username_1: My proposal is as follows:
* Allow question on anime-like and heavily-anime-inspired series (The prominent example is [avatar-the-last-airbender](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/avatar-the-last-airbender "show questions tagged 'avatar-the-last-airbender'")).
* Allow question on anime-style and anime-based games. For now, only **story related** questions should be allowed. Leave game mechanics and gameplay to Arqade.
That's it in my opinion, we shouldn't expand the scope too much too quickly now.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Note: My viewpoint is roughly the same as Madara's, so if you want the tl;dr read his post. I've tried to expand on where exactly the boundaries should be in my view.
I think this is a matter of two different viewpoints. If you think this site should focus on anime and manga as artistic media, then you probably don't think we should expand.
I tend to see anime and manga more as a culture, at least in the West. There are lots of games, manga-style comics (including manhwa and manhua), and anime-style cartoons which are targeted at, and are just as popular as, the average anime/manga series, and it's strange to not be able to discuss them here. That isn't to say that we're expanding our scope to include Star Trek, even though Star Trek probably is popular among manga fans. But we're including things that would be natural to discuss on an anime-themed site. What exactly those are is up for debate.
The following are my proposed expansions of the scope. I've tried to simultaneously be open about what sorts of topics we allow but set fairly strict boundaries.
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Manhwa and Manhua, being commonly based off of Japanese Manga, are obvious choices. There really wasn't ever any reason to ban them except that it was convenient to define Manga by the origin. But that convenience for us isn't worth excluding a number of good questions about these series.
[OEL manga](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_English-language_manga) is also in this category, but differentiating it from comic books/graphic novels can be difficult. I propose the following test: If a regular manga reader who is not familiar with the series can immediately tell that it is not manga from one or two pages (ignoring things like page orientation) then it should be allowed. This would include things like [Megatokyo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megatokyo) but not [Homestuck](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homestuck). Most OEL manga identify themselves as such, and they tend to be published by only a few companies, so there are unlikely to be very many borderline cases. I also don't think we'll get a lot of questions on this topic, so putting too much thought into where the borders are seems like a waste of time at this point.
Some questions related to Manhwa and Manhua, whose statuses might be under consideration given this change:
* [Why is Cassano called the "Devil of the Right Arm"?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/878/why-is-cassano-called-the-devil-of-the-right-arm/881#881)
* [How are manhwa and manhua received in Japan?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/749/how-are-manhwa-and-manhua-received-in-japan)
* [How long was Shi-woon trained by Goomoonryong?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2561/how-long-was-shi-woon-trained-by-goomoonryong)
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Likewise, including cartoons based on anime, where the primary fanbase is highly correlated with the anime fanbase, seems okay. That will have to be judged on a case-by-case basis. [avatar-the-last-airbender](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/avatar-the-last-airbender "show questions tagged 'avatar-the-last-airbender'") was deemed to be okay, but [Samurai Jack](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai_Jack) was not, even though both are anime-inspired. There probably aren't too many shows that are in the grey area between these two, so this hopefully won't be a recurring problem.
I'd say that the test for borderline cases her is the following: if a relatively well-informed anime fan who has never seen or heard of this particular show could immediately discern that the show is probably not a Japanese anime, then it doesn't pass. If they can't tell just based off the artwork, it's probably anime-inspired enough that we can allow it. I think there aren't very many series that will pass that test (I could not think of any other than Avatar off the top of my head).
The following questions are related to [avatar-the-last-airbender](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/avatar-the-last-airbender "show questions tagged 'avatar-the-last-airbender'") and are affected by this. As of now that is the only anime-style television show that is not anime but is being allowed.
* [How could Aang stay alive for 100 years?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/498/how-could-aang-stay-alive-for-100-years)
* [What can energybending do?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2562/what-can-energybending-do)
It's worth noting that [Scifi](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/) has a lot of Avatar-related questions (I count 53, which is more than all of their anime questions combined). It is one of the series that they are well-equipped to answer about. Whether or not we decide that can ask your Avatar question here, you can certainly do so there. This overlap is fine, as our communities have different cultures and interests, so you'll probably receive a different answer here or there. You should factor that in when you decide which site to ask on, and [don't ask on both sites](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/64068/is-cross-posting-a-question-on-multiple-stack-exchange-sites-permitted-if-the-qu/64073#64073).
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Live action adaptations of anime/manga, whether Japanese, Korean, Chinese, or from any other country, shouldn't be terribly controversial. At the moment, I do not believe we should expand beyond that to include all J-dramas, K-dramas, etc. While there are a lot of fans of these, the only cases where there's a large overlap between anime and drama fans are adaptations of anime/manga. I don't think this is really expanding our scope, but clarifying it.
At the moment I don't think we've had any questions about live-action versions specifically.
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Games are a particularly tricky area. There are a lot of games which probably count as anime-style or anime-based. First, we definitely don't want to allow gameplay questions about these games. We aren't a gamer community, and we shouldn't strive to promote that content. If you want to ask gameplay questions, [Arqade](https://gaming.stackexchange.com/) is a great site for a large number of games.
So we're left with questions about the story, characters, lore, etc. That's essentially the same as what we allow questions about in terms of anime. We also need to know how to define what "anime-style" or "anime-based" means. However, it's typically pretty clear whether a game counts as anime-style or not. [Touhou Project games](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touhou) obviously count, and [Grand Theft Auto games](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_%28series%29) obviously don't. But there are a lot of intermediate cases.
I propose the following, though I'll admit I'm not happy about it. If the art style of the game is similar enough to anime-style that a fairly standard-looking anime could be made from it without changing the style, then it should be allowed. This excludes games with realistic art styles like [Mass Effect](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_effect), and also games with cartoon styles like [PaRappa the Rapper](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PaRappa_the_Rapper), even though both of them have related anime series which are on-topic here.
If that's confusing, it's easier to show examples of what would be allowed. [Pokemon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokemon), [BlazBlue](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlazBlue_series), [The Tales RPGs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_Of_Series), [Arcana Heart](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcana_Heart), [THE iDOLM@STER](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Idolmaster), and any games directly based on an anime are allowed. For reference, [Mario](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario), [Halo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_%28series%29), and [Minecraft](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minecraft) definitely don't fit the bill. I also suggest that we be fairly strict when it comes to new game series. If a series isn't obviously acceptable, then we shouldn't allow it without discussing it specifically on meta. This is mostly to prevent our site from getting flooded.
I view this policy as an extension of our policy allowing story questions about visual novels with some gameplay elements. We're now reducing the requirement from that the game is part-visual novel to that it's an anime-style game, which I think is fixing what was an inconsistency.
Some questions which are related and could potentially be affected by changes:
* [Is Ditto a Failed Mew Clone?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2555/is-ditto-a-failed-mew-clone)
* [Which Melty Blood games are relevant, plotwise?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/507/which-melty-blood-games-are-relevant-plotwise)
It's worth noting that plot-related questions are allowed at [Arqade](https://gaming.stackexchange.com/), though they are uncommon. As such this material would be on-topic on both sites. Our site has different culture and standards from Arqade, so the overlap isn't a problem, but you should consider which site to ask your question on and [don't ask on both sites](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/64068/is-cross-posting-a-question-on-multiple-stack-exchange-sites-permitted-if-the-qu/64073#64073).
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I'd also like to clarify that I do not think we should allow questions about the production of any of the above categories. [anime-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-production "show questions tagged 'anime-production'") is fine, because it's of direct interest to a sizable number of people in our community. However, asking about the production of a video game or a cartoon series really isn't on topic. [Game Development](https://gamedev.stackexchange.com/), [Graphic Design](https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/), and [Movies & TV](http://movies.stackexchange.com) are all great sites in the SE network which will take some of those questions, but you should check their FAQs before asking.
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2013/02/19 | 698 | 2,585 | <issue_start>username_0: In [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2562/what-can-energybending-do/), I mentioned that the tag [avatar-the-last-airbender](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/avatar-the-last-airbender "show questions tagged 'avatar-the-last-airbender'") may not the best choice for the question, as the tag only covers the first series, *Avatar: The last Airbender*. The question, however covers both, *Avatar: The last Airbender* and *The Legend of Korra*. Should there be a second tag [the-legend-of-korra](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/the-legend-of-korra "show questions tagged 'the-legend-of-korra'"), or should the Avatar-Tag be generalized? A new tag can make searches more specific, however both series are simply referred to as *Avatar*, most times.<issue_comment>username_1: I think a second tag is in order. If we have [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'") and [naruto-shippuuden](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto-shippuuden "show questions tagged 'naruto-shippuuden'"), we should have both tags.
Questions from both tags can be searched for by searching for [avatar\*].
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: I think that in this case, the [avatar](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/avatar "show questions tagged 'avatar'") tag should be created and used for both The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra. Madara's example of having a [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'") and [naruto-shippuuden](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto-shippuuden "show questions tagged 'naruto-shippuuden'") tag to tell the two series apart isn't a very good one since everybody just uses the plain Naruto tag for both series.
To deal with differentiating the two series, I propose that [avatar](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/avatar "show questions tagged 'avatar'") be used for both with related synonyms for [avatar-the-last-airbender](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/avatar-the-last-airbender "show questions tagged 'avatar-the-last-airbender'") and [legend-of-korra](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/legend-of-korra "show questions tagged 'legend-of-korra'"). This way searching "avatar" will yield results for both series as they're both commonly referred to as Avatar and searching for either of the synonyms will give results for those particular series.
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2013/02/19 | 1,050 | 3,729 | <issue_start>username_0: Since we are looking to expand our social circles I think we should have a name for our unofficial SE community. We can change it later on down the like, but I think we should have something that identifies us as a community.
I'd like like to ask for everyone's idea of what our community name and logo should be and look like. The logo does not need to be the finished product. A rough sketch in paint is fine. I'll work with the author of the top rated answer to create a more polished product.
**If you want to just propose a name or logo, that's fine as well.**
Remember to follow these copyright guidelines when creating the name and logo:
* Do not use Stack Exchange's logo unless you have been granted special permission by Stack Exchange, Inc.
* Do not use Stack Exchange's name or logo in a way that might imply a false sense of partnership or endorsement with your product.
* Do not use any name or logo that is similar to or might be confused with Stack Exchange's name or logo.
* Do not distort or alter Stack Exchange's logo in any way.
* Do not use our Stack Exchange's logo in a way that confuses our brand with another brand.
* Do not use any Stack Exchange artwork from their network without explicit permission.
Don't forget to upvote the answers you like and leave any comments or critiques for the authors.
If possible, use this format:
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Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_2: **Name:** "Ask Anime & Manga"
**Reasoning:**: Got an itching Anime and/or Manga question? We'll try to answer it for you!
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Here is my proposal for the community logo. I did it in the style of the Japanese *mon* (family emblems):
This typographic logo uses the stylized kanji for `画`:
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: **Name**: (unofficial) "Akihabara" or "Akiba"
**Reasoning**: As per [this answer](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/205/189 "this answer") for chat, it's the "sacred land of the otaku legions." Fitting, appropriate, and if you're part of the group, you can easily recognize it.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_4: Name: (Unofficial) Anime & Manga Stack Exchange Community
Reasoning: Probably any otaku-based nickname we can think of will be an already overused term for other communities and it will be unclear that our group has anything to do with any SE. Why not just keep it simple so people know what they're looking at?
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: **Name:** Ayama
**Reasoning:** Taken from the first *kana* of each word in the Japanese translation of "Anime and Manga" (アニメやまんが -> アやま -> *Ayama*). It's short, easy to remember, and unique to us.
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2013/02/19 | 757 | 3,067 | <issue_start>username_0: Since anime and manga is a visual medium, would it be a big benefit to add a small image to anime and manga tags (as in, the [cowboy-bebop](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/cowboy-bebop "show questions tagged 'cowboy-bebop'") tag wiki would have a small image of the series). It would be similar to the small image you see on the wikipedia pages for these anime and manga, small image for Fair Use purposes to help describe the the tag.
I can see where this would help because a promotional picture can sometimes help someone identify which anime they are asking a question about, if they're not sure of the name; though in retrospect, that's probably not likely to happen.
There may need to be some sort of guidelines so the images aren't huge or spoilery.<issue_comment>username_1: Helpful images in tag wikis are welcome.
Much like you said, they add a lot in a very visual medium such as anime and manga. Adding images can be a great addition to a tag wiki, for the exact reasons you've listed.
I say go for it! ~♪
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I suggest the following guidelines for images in tag wikis:
* Only one image per wiki. The point of the image is to show what the series looks like visually, and that can be accomplished in one image. More images are just clutter. In the case with multiple series with significantly different art styles encompassed by one tag (perhaps [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'") is an example of this?) then an exception can be made.
* The image should show (at least some of) the main character(s) of the series. I think this is self-explanatory.
* No fanart. It'd be strange to judge a series based on its fanart, so why would you report on it on that basis? If you can't tell if the art is official or fanart, chances are it's close enough to the real thing that it isn't worth worrying about.
Stylistic recommendations:
* Images should be as canonically chosen as possible. Images of characters wearing strange clothes, or extremely warped images which would give an incorrect idea of what the art style is, are a bad choice. Images that are very commonly used in promoting a series and are likely to be used on other sites as well make a good choice.
* More distinctive/memorable images are better. If a series has a distinct style, find an image that highlights that, not hides it.
* Ideally, the title should also appear somewhere in the image. This might not always be possible. Some series do not ever show the title in the same image as the characters. If you can't find anything meeting this then it's not worth fretting over.
* The best images fill the available area well, but not to the point where you can't see the whole thing in one screen. On my monitor, that means at least 568 pixels wide, and no more than 724 pixels long. Use your best judgement with this, but a very long and thin image probably isn't the best choice (neither is an extremely wide one).
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2013/02/21 | 1,651 | 7,235 | <issue_start>username_0: Should we add the name of the identified series to the list of tags for identifications questions with accepted answers? Would it have any significant impact on SEO?<issue_comment>username_1: Yes
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As you mentioned, it will help with Search Engine Optimization (SEO).
Furthermore, it lets you find all the [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions associated with a specific series.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: If you're asking whether we should add tags with the series to identification questions, then the answer is **no**, this is as far as I know the usual practice on the SE sites.
Tags should classify **questions**, not *questions-after-they-have-been-answered*. If the OP didn't know it was that series, then you should not add the tag. It would make the question silly (the asker doesn't know the series but the tag is there).
The keywords in the answers are enough.
Answering to comments: First of all the fact that tags appear in the question. Answers do not carry tags, so tagging a question according to its answers has no logic. Second, the tags appearing on a question, classify it: what it's about, etc. But the OP cannot tag something which he's asking. Consider this: if a user asks about a proper sentence in a language and his example has a mistake, do you fix his mistake in the question? No, because then the question would not make sense anymore.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: No, you should not. People who are searching for identification questions do not know the name of the series. Classifying identification questions under the name of the series, as opposed to under a theme tag (e.g. [robots](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/robots "show questions tagged 'robots'")) or under [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'"), would be counter-productive.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: Others have addressed the whole "Tags identify attributes of the question" already, so let me piggy-back a bit on [the point from Gilles](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/435/should-we-add-a-series-tag-to-identification-questions-that-have-accepted-answer/447#447).
Certainly, having a tag in the title will increase searchability... based on including that tag's content in the search string. Which is where the logic of its benefit is starting to fall into a logic gap for me.
The entire class of question is based on the premise that the title is an unknown element - that's the whole purpose behind asking the question. Furthermore, it is knowledge of the title which is, entirely, the solution to the problem at hand. Thus, knowing the title invalidates the need to ask the question entirely.
Adding the solution to the searchability means that we increase the visibility of... nothing. The question is of absolutely no use to those who already know what the name of the series is, by virtue of the fact that the sole and complete contribution of the solution is the name of the series. The people who can search for the title gain absolutely no benefit to finding this content, since this will not be a problem they are searching for. If anything, it may even be problematic as this will turn up as a search result for unrelated inquiries they happen to be asking about the series itself, giving them worthless data.
To those who do have the same problem, it provides no benefit. They cannot take advantage of the increased searchability because *they don't know the title that they can use to help locate the question*.
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Internal to the system and stepping out of the Google search implications, tags serve to identify what the problem is about, so that questioners can find people with the same problem, and that answerers can identify places that their expertise is needed. There is a difference between "What a problem is about", and "What a problem is solved by" - especially since the latter may have more than one component. This is why we only tag based on the former concept - if we tagged on every potential solution to each problem, then tags would be bloated with excess information that makes finding things more difficult. To further in this point, tags are only an attribute to the question, not to its answers, and thus the logic of tying a tag to its question is written into the system.
For programmers, [a Stack Overflow style example of this argument can be found here](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/109121/proper-use-of-tags-to-enhance-or-only-to-describe-question/109127#109127). It can be read on a more general component even if you're not a programmer, but if you don't feel like breezing through that, that's fine.
Think outside the context of identification, and put aside the issue of tag granularity for this example - a problem about how to shoot Gohma in the eye when her claw is blocking it is fundamentally different from a problem about how to open the door to Undine's lair, which involves shooting a statue in plain sight in the eye. That they both involve shooting things in the eye does not cause the latter to be grouped with the former on the grounds of shooting things in the eye, because the latter is not a question about shooting things in the eye, but about accessing lairs. You would not tag the latter question with a tag about shooting things in the eye. If there was an alternate entrance to Undine's lair involving bombing cracked walls, then that makes a tag about shooting things in the eye even *less* applicable because it may not even be necessary. Arrows will be the optimal solution because bombs are extremely expensive and heavy, and thus that is the accepted answer, but that still doesn't make it a component for the tagging. Tagging it as such would only make the whole system confusing.
To use a less confounding example, if that was hard to follow, if someone needs to accomplish Task X, and the solution, wholly and straightforward, is to use Strategy Y, then this is not a problem that is about Strategy Y. We would not classify Task X under Strategy Y because people who are looking for problems about Strategy Y would not be looking for Task X - Task X is already a solved problem for them by virtue of them knowing Strategy Y. We especially would not classify Task X under Strategy Y if there was also a Strategy Z that was equally *capable* of accomplishing Task X. Then Strategy Y isn't even necessary for Task X, and people who are seeking Task X wouldn't know to search for Strategy Y (or Strategy Z). Had they known to search for those, they probably wouldn't need to ask about Task X in the first place.
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That's rather the whole of it. The searchability benefits don't really manifest to anyone's favor as they don't increase visibility to those who would need to find it. Questioners won't know to look for the series as that is the item they are wholly seeking. Answerers won't look for the series because seeing that present is a clear sign that their help isn't even needed.
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2013/02/24 | 1,491 | 6,164 | <issue_start>username_0: We've had a few questions recently by new users which were well-formed questions that just weren't good matches for our main site. That's understandable, since the askers are often not familiar with how our site works, and we have some rules as to what sorts of questions are allowed that might be stricter from different sites. For instance, we [don't allow recommendation questions](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/117/should-we-allow-recommendation-questions) and our [policy on questions asking for lists](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/348/what-is-the-status-of-list-questions-on-this-site) is fairly complicated.
Recently, people have been downvoting these questions. An example\* is <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2645/im-looking-for-a-list-of-humorous-anime-similar-to-oruchuban-ebichu>. This is a well-written question which is interesting, but doesn't meet our site criteria. So it should be closed. But downvoting in this case will only drive away a new user who could probably productively contribute to our community. It's currently at -4, though I'm contemplating upvoting it just because I don't agree this question should be at -4.
A downvote essentially conveys the message "you should have asked a better question," but the only way the user could know that question was bad is if they had read some obscure meta thread with only about 100 views. Practically speaking, a meta post with 100 views has only been seen by at most 21% of our current registered users. Expecting new users to read every meta thread just to ask one question is ridiculous, especially since many of them don't even know we have a meta site.
When the asker makes these sorts of honest mistakes, you should leave a comment explaining (nicely) why the question isn't a good match for our site (referencing the relevant meta posts), and direct them to chat where such questions are welcome. If there is already such a comment, upvote it. If you can vote to close, then do so.
But if the only way the user could know that the question wasn't allowed is to be an active user here (and they aren't) then don't downvote it. New users will see this as an attack on themselves and will be unlikely to return, and we aren't anywhere near the size that we can afford to be turning away interested new users.
There are cases when a new user's question is completely out of order. These are things like spam, "What's your favorite X?" questions, and questions which violate the Stack Exchange Terms of Service (e.g. posting pornographic images). In these cases it's acceptable to downvote, though you should still probably explain why in the latter two cases. But if the user has just misunderstood our site's particular policies, downvoting them is only more likely to convince them that they are being attacked, which will just make things worse.
**tl;dr: Don't downvote new users who make understandable mistakes, but do point them to our policies so that they won't make the same mistakes again.**
\*: Yes, I'm aware that the OP in this case has been on our site since private beta, but he clearly isn't an avid user. For all intents and purposes he's basically a new user.<issue_comment>username_1: I agree. Be gracious, be professional. Don't drive away users. Be patient towards them, explain their mistakes, refer them to the FAQ and /about page if necessary.
If you aren't sure, flag it for moderator attention and we'll handle it.
In general, don't be trigger happy with downvotes, prefer comments and communication.
Downvotes are reserved for posts which aren't helpful, badly formatted or aren't clear.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_2: I thought about it some more, and I realise that it could be a culture we subconsciously carried over from StackOverflow. SO is categorized under Technology, while this SE site comes under recreation. For that reason, Anime.SE should not be all serious business like SO, and should be much more informal.
A question like `How do I write a C program to add 2 and 3?` would get heavily downvoted on SO, as it should be, but I think `How old is Kakashi before timeskip?` isn't quite equally bad, relatively speaking. People follow anime and manga for fun and entertainment, and not to pass some university test (not that I know of anyway).
In any case, prefer resolving any issues by posting comments and working with the OP. Not only does that create a positive atmosphere for new users, but also introduces the site policies to them in a non-confrontational way.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: I'm actually the poster of the question under discussion here. While I may not post much on this particular network, I have been using the stack exchange networks for quite a while now and I do regularly browse these pages. The problem is, the anime network really doesn't work like the others do. The purpose of these networks is supposed to be to disseminate information on specific areas of interest of which this one is supposed to be about **ANIME**- Shock Horror. I'd like to assume that most people who frequent this forum or QnA or whatever you want to call it-enjoy anime. So, when a unique question comes in that facilitates knowledge of another aspect of anime it would be gladly welcomed. This doesn't seem to be the case and I feel that it is undermining what is potentially a good site.
My question mentioned above perhaps could have been written a little better, I wanted to know of anime that were of a similar genre to ebichu, but I used the word humor instead. My bad. Humor is subjective, genre isn't. Regardless, it was a question that I would have liked answered and it met the rules stipulated on [this page](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/348/what-is-the-status-of-list-questions-on-this-site).
This is a new network and it will have it's teething problems, but if it is to meet the high criteria set by the stackexchange network it really needs to have a clear purpose with rules that enforce the purpose of the site and users that know when to enforce them.
Over-regulation will help no one.
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2013/02/25 | 2,775 | 10,667 | <issue_start>username_0: The question <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2645/im-looking-for-a-list-of-humorous-anime-similar-to-oruchuban-ebichu> led to a debate on the correct interpretion of [our policy on list questions](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/348/what-is-the-status-of-list-questions-on-this-site). To avoid taking that debate all over the place, I opened this meta thread.
I copy the list questions policy below, along with my interpretation for this question, starting with the least controversial criteria.
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With the way the question is currently worded, this seems the hardest to meet, because it asks for abstract concepts.
This is my interpretation of what needs to be resolved to reopen this question.
**Edit**
A number of contrasting responses, but I think we overall agree that:
Either the list questions should be disallowed altogether, or the rule needs to be refined so that it can be applied objectively.
Let us discuss this further in chat.<issue_comment>username_1: I honestly don't think there's much room for discussion here. What's funny to me isn't funny to you. Humor and humor types cannot be determined objectively (such as, what anime contain zombies?, for example).
Therefore, it fails at your first listed criterion. We can't, and definitely won't, define the term "humor".
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I largely agree with this point of view. **However...**
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I don't really agree with the order you've placed them in in terms of controversy. I would do it as follows (again, least problematic criteria first):
### 4. Scope
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"Anime" is a long list. "Anime Comedies" is a shorter list, and "[Consistently] Suggestive Anime" is even shorter. There will not be a *huge* list of "Anime that makes Comedy of Suggestive Material".
### 3. Rapid Change
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Anime do come out in significant numbers per year, but this is a rather esoteric category (see above) and not a lot of new anime will be coming out here at a consistent rate.
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This hits the second point of "featuring some theme." However, I think genres need to *not* be considered themes; "funny" (comedic) anime should not be a theme, nor should adventure anime, fantasy anime, etc.
### 1. "Recommendation"
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This seems the hardest to discern from this question. The **way it is currently phrased** suggests that the OP is asking for questions which are suggestive and humorous *to us*. Based on his comments, and a bit of reading the line, I believe it's fair to say that he is asking for questions which fit into the comedy genre, and the comedy style of which is sexual and suggestive.
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After some thought, I've rewritten the question into one which I believe complies with all four criteria above.
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> One of the funniest anime I've ever watched was [*Oruchuban Ebichu*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oruchuban_Ebichu). It's about a talking hamster, but I mostly enjoyed it due to the adult comedy:
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What I've done here is try to remove any reference to "humor", instead going for the concept of "comedy"; when a comedy is made, it is intended to make people laugh, even if it does not succeed. It still remains a comedy, regardless.
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This answer got longer than I anticipated, so:
**TL;DR**: In my opinion, this issue is not about defining humor: It's about realizing that humor is subjective, while *the genre that a show fits into* is actually objective.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: I think a case can be made that this question could be made to fit our current rules. However, I think that's not because the question is good, but **our current rules are bad**. There's no reasonable way to make this question objective and reasonably scoped simultaneously.
I'm mostly opposed to our [previous agreement on list questions](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/348/what-is-the-status-of-list-questions-on-this-site), at least as a be-all and end-all policy. If we all agreed on what it meant and applied it uniformly, then it would be an okay policy. But **we still have high-rep users debating over the policy** even though it's been in place for almost a month. I have my own interpretation for what it means, but there's no reason it should be the same as anyone else's interpretation. If I posted a question that I thought was perfectly allowable and others didn't, it would lead to some debate. I'd be okay in the end, but for a new user, they can easily get hurt feelings over these kinds of things and leave the site. **Even when we agree that we're properly applying this policy, the OP probably doesn't, and there's lots of room for confusion and hurt feelings.**
**What we need is a simple policy that can be understood by everyone and clearly applied**. The current policy on list questions allows some good questions, but it becomes a point of debate whenever we have anything controversial. Almost all of these controversial questions are asking for lists of anime/manga, and almost all questions asking for lists of anime is controversial. Hence, seeing no better alternative, I propose the following policy change:
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**This is the policy on [Scifi](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/faq)** and they don't seem to have problems with it. I think in-universe list questions are a different animal, and our current policy seems to be serving them well.
This is very simple to apply, though there are a few cases that you have to be careful. For instance, [Has an anime ever come out before the manga was published?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2351/24) is not a list question, even though the answers contain lists of anime. It's merely asking if it's possible to have an anime before a manga, and so it's a question about anime production. It would be possible for someone to come up with a totally theoretical answer to the question addressing all of the issues associated with producing original anime, but without any examples. This question should maybe be protected to prevent further answers that just list examples, but it isn't a list question so it should be left open. That's just how the answerers chose to answer the question.
Contrast that to the question we're looking at right now. There's no reasonable way to change the question into something that doesn't violate this policy. There isn't any minor modification that could be made to comply with this policy. So we would not allow that question. This policy would also affect some other older questions which were reopened after the original list question proposal.
It's worth looking at the questions which we'd be losing if we adopted this. After browsing the ones on the main site, none were questions that I'd be particularly upset to see go (feel free to comment if you think I've missed one). Most of them were either bad questions or tolerable questions that weren't interesting to very many people. The one that I'd be most upset about losing was the hypothetical question that I posed originally to show that there were good list questions:
* What are all the anime films that were directed by Hayao Miyazaki?
This is actually a red herring. It was not asked on the main site, and for good reason-the answer is trivial to find. It's already on [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki#Filmography), exactly as you'd expect it would be. This is true in general for most out-of-universe list questions. Those which are "good" questions tend to have answers which are easy to find and verify, to the point that no one would even ask here. **Losing these hypothetical "good" questions which are actually trivial isn't something we should worry about, and it's certainly not worth conflicts with new users over confusing policy.**
To be clear, I'm proposing this primarily to avoid future conflicts with new users. An unambiguous firm policy that can't be argued one way or the other is the best way to do this.
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**tl;dr These sorts of questions aren't very interesting, and they lead to debate even among high rep users. Rather than allowing them in certain complicated situations, we should ban them altogether to avoid conflicts of opinion and simplify the rules.**
Upvotes: 3 |
2013/03/16 | 695 | 2,392 | <issue_start>username_0: After having chosen our content managers for our [Google+ page](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/408/google-page-content-manager-nominations) and [Facebook page](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/407/facebook-page-content-manager-nominations), we now need to generate some content to post on them.
What do you think can help in the growth of a solid network of followers?<issue_comment>username_1: After [some discussion in our sixth Chat Cast](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/conversation/sixth-chat-cast-content-for-social-media-promotion) on how to use our [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/AnimeAndMangaQA) and [Google+](https://plus.google.com/u/0/111061084179563499110/posts) community pages, we've reached the following conclusion:
1. We should try to post more interesting non-Q&A content (news, trailers, show and tell, etc.) to help generate discussion and traffic to the site. Make sure to include pictures whenever possible! Feel free to share any interesting news, videos, or tidbits in our ["Social Page Content Discussion" chatroom](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/7735/social-page-content-discussion)!
2. Post interesting and memorable Q&A from this site on our [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/AnimeAndMangaQA) and [Google+](https://plus.google.com/u/0/111061084179563499110/posts) community pages, and/or tweet them yourselves on Twitter (The [Lelouch](https://anime.stackexchange.com/a/2438/63) and [Clannad After Story](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/195/63) questions and answers are good examples.)
3. We need a better name for our community site. Please post you suggestions for names, logo, and/or mascot ideas in [this meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/426/63).
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: I don't know how specific you're looking for, but I think that [What differentiates anime from regular cartoons?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/69/what-differentiates-anime-from-regular-cartoons) and [Do people in the anime or manga actually eat Pokemon?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/836/do-people-in-the-anime-or-manga-actually-eat-pokemon) should be included because the first is something that interested people should know and the second is something that a lot of people are curious about. They are also the two highest rated questions.
Upvotes: 0 |
2013/03/23 | 556 | 2,132 | <issue_start>username_0: Back in private beta, we discussed [a proposal](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/156/274) on whether we should allow a limited set of "resource" posts to be available, just like [meta JLU's](https://japanese.meta.stackexchange.com/q/756/3035). StackOverflow has [some](https://stackoverflow.com/q/3737139/1438733) as well. The purpose of these resource posts is twofold: to help users find useful resources that other community members use, and also to allow us to redirect people who ask disallowed questions (like recommendations) to resources where those are valid.
The proposal was never discussed thoroughly nor concluded, but it is one that should be decided upon by the community. Thus, I've set up this poll so that the community can have a say in how this will be handled. There are three options:
**Option 1: Allow the posts on Meta**
1. The posts will be allowed on the meta Anime & Manga site.
2. These posts will be **locked** or **wiki'd and protected** (depending on context).
3. Users who ask questions which are covered by the resources will have questions closed as usual, then get a comment linking them to said post.
**Option 2: Allow the posts on Main**
1. The posts will be allowed on the main Q&A portion of the Anime & Manga site.
2. These posts will be **locked** or **wiki'd and protected** (depending on context).
3. Users who ask questions which are covered by the resources will have questions closed as a duplicate of the resource question.
**Option 3: Disallow the posts**
1. There will be no resource posts allowed on Meta or Main.
To vote, please **upvote the answer whose option you agree with**. You should **not** downvote other answers, as **downvotes will not be counted**.
Any additional points can be edited into or commented on their respective option post.<issue_comment>username_1: Vote this up for **Option 1: Allow the posts on Meta**.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_1: Vote this up for **Option 2: Allow the posts on Main**.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_1: Vote this up for **Option 3: Disallow the posts**.
Upvotes: 0 |
2013/03/27 | 3,253 | 8,233 | <issue_start>username_0: **Related: [Are there animes/mangas we want more questions for?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/356/274)**
The above question was related to what we should do about skewed tags and whether there were specific tags we wanted questions for. But it really didn't gather much in the way of a list; [one answer](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/357/274) came close, but it is limited, and difficult for us to still use that after so long.
So, in order to give an idea to users who want to help generate new and interesting content: What anime or manga series do we want more questions and content about?<issue_comment>username_1: This is a list of several anime and manga series which have either not been asked about or need more questions. Feel free to strikeout/remove from this list as questions are asked and tags are created (or add *fresh, popular series which are not getting enough attention*):
* [*Blue Exorcist*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Exorcist)
* [*Princess Mononoke*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Mononoke)
* [*Baccano!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baccano!)
* [*Future Diary*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Diary)
* [*5 Centimeters Per Second*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Centimeters_Per_Second)
* [*Rosario + Vampire*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosario_%2B_Vampire)
* [*Welcome to the N.H.K.*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_the_N.H.K.)
* [*Another*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_%28novel%29)
* [*School Days*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_Days_%28visual_novel%29)
* [*Air*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_%28visual_novel%29)
* [*Azumanga Daioh*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azumanga_Daioh)
* [*Baka and Test*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baka_and_Test)
* [*Love★Com*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Com)
* [*Love Hina*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Hina)
* [*School Rumble*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_Rumble)
* [*My Neighbor Totoro*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonari_no_Totoro)
* [*Air Gear*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Gear)
* [*Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII%3a_Advent_Children)
* [*Kanon*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanon)
* [*Is This a Zombie?*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_This_a_Zombie%3F)
* [*Chrono Crusade*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrono_Crusade)
* [*Devil May Cry*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_May_Cry%3a_The_Animated_Series)
* [*Serial Experiments Lain*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Experiments_Lain)
* [*ChäoS;HEAd*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos;Head)
* [*Nana*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nana_%28manga%29)
* [*Shuffle!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuffle!)
* [*Special A*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_%C2%B7_A%3a_Special_A)
* [*Black★Rock Shooter*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rock_Shooter)
* [*Hyōka*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hy%C5%8Dka)
* [*Summer Wars*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_Wars)
* [*Black Cat*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Cat_%28manga%29)
* [*Rozen Maiden*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozen_Maiden)
* [*My Bride is a Mermaid*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Bride_is_a_Mermaid)
* [*Natsume's Book of Friends*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natsume%27s_Book_of_Friends)
* [*BECK*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_%28manga%29)
* [*Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonari_no_Kaibutsu-kun)
* [*Shaman King*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaman_King)
* [*Berserk*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserk_%28manga%29)
* [*Arakawa Under the Bridge*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arakawa_Under_the_Bridge)
* [*Ga-Rei: Zero*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga-rei)
* [*Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love,_Chunibyo_%26_Other_Delusions)
* [*Demon King Daimao*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_King_Daimao)
* [*Heaven's Lost Property*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Lost_Property)
* [*IS*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IS_%28Infinite_Stratos%29)
* [*B Gata H Kei*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_Gata_H_Kei_Yamada%E2%80%99s_First_Time)
* [*Kara no Kyōkai*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_no_Ky%C5%8Dkai)
* [*Digimon Adventure*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digimon_Adventure)
* [*Laputa: Castle in the Sky*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_in_the_Sky)
* [*Working!!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working!!)
* [*Grave of the Fireflies*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies)
* [*Umineko: When They Cry*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umineko%3a_When_They_Cry)
* [*Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-Chan*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bludgeoning_Angel_Dokuro-Chan)
* [*Hetalia: Axis Powers*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetalia%3a_Axis_Powers)
* [*Nyan Koi!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyan_Koi!)
* [*Sekirei*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sekirei)
* [*Kiss×sis*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissxsis)
* [*Honey and Clover*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_and_Clover)
* [*Seitokai Yakuindomo*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seitokai_Yakuindomo)
* [*Bunny Drop*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunny_Drop)
* [*Kämpfer*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A4mpfer)
* [*07-Ghost*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/07-Ghost)
* [*Kiki's Delivery Service*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiki%27s_Delivery_Service)
* [*K*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_%28anime%29)
* [*Sankarea*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankarea)
* [*Canaan*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan_%28anime%29)
* [*Maria†Holic*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Holic)
* [*<NAME>!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shugo_Chara!)
* [*Minami-ke*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minami-ke)
* [*Nabari no Ou*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabari_no_Ou)
* [*Itazura na Kiss*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itazura_na_Kiss)
* [*Ah! My Goddess*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ah!_My_Goddess)
* [*Romeo x Juliet*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romeo_x_Juliet)
* [*My-HiME*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mai-HiME)
* [*My-Otome*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My-Otome)
* [*Kyoushirou to Towa no Sora*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoushirou_to_Towa_no_Sora)
* [*<NAME>*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Angel_Kurumi)
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: On ANN:
* [Top 50 anime, best rated](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-anime.php?top50=best_bayesian), highest rating using bayesian estimate
* [Top 50 anime, most viewed](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-anime.php?top50=most_viewed), highest number of votes (good or bad)
* [Top 50 manga, best rated](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-manga.php?top50=best_bayesian)
* [Top 50 manga, most viewed](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-manga.php?top50=most_viewed)
Combining these 4 lists, removing duplicates, and removing what we already have tagged, we get:
* 20th/21st Century Boys
* 5 Centimeters Per Second
* A Bride's Story
* Absolute Boyfriend
* Air Gear
* Alice 19th
* Angel Sanctuary
* Ao Haru Ride
* Azumanga Daioh
* Baccano!
* Berserk
* Blade of the Immortal
* Buddha
* Bunny Drop
* Cardcaptor Sakura
* Ceres: Celestial Legend
* Children of the Sea
* Claymore
* Cross Game
* D.N.Angel
* <NAME>
* FLCL
* Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
* Fruits Basket
* Full Metal Panic!
* Fushigi Yugi
* Glass no Kamen
* Grave of the Fireflies
* Gravitation
* Gurren Lagann
* Hana-Kimi
* Hellsing
* Historie
* Honey and Clover
* Kanon
* Kare Kano
* Kino's Journey
* Koori no Mamono no Monogatari
* Legend of the Galactic Heroes
* Lone Wolf and Cub
* Love Hina
* Magic Knight Rayearth
* Maison Ikkoku
* Maria Watches Over Us
* Message to Adolf
* Mononoke
* NANA
* Natsume's Book of Friends
* Nausica: of the Valley of the Wind
* Ode to Kirihito
* Oh My Goddess!
* Panorama of Hell
* Phoenix
* Pluto
* Princess Mononoke
* REAL
* Saiyuki Gaiden
* Sakura-Gari
* Sanctuary
* Shaman King
* Solanin
* Stigma
* Summer Wars
* Betrayal Knows My Name
* Garden of Sinners (Kara no Kyoukai)
* The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
* The Heart of Thomas
* The World is Mine
* Town of Evening Calm, Country of Cherry Blossoms
* Twin Spica
* Vagabond
* Vinland Saga
* Wandering Son
* With the Light: Raising an Autistic Child
* Wolf's Rain
* Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou
* Yotsuba&!
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/03/27 | 3,256 | 8,229 | <issue_start>username_0: What parts of [my answer](https://anime.stackexchange.com/a/3061/310) in the question, "[What are Madara Uchiha's weaknesses?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/76/what-are-madara-uchihas-weaknesses/)" should be hidden with spoiler markup?
I currently only hid the images I embedded in the answer with spoiler markup. Should I have hidden more or less of my answer with spoiler markup?
I answered the question with information from Chapters 622 and 623 (current latest chapter is 625). **Are info from chapters one to three issues earlier from the current one, considered spoilers by the community?**<issue_comment>username_1: This is a list of several anime and manga series which have either not been asked about or need more questions. Feel free to strikeout/remove from this list as questions are asked and tags are created (or add *fresh, popular series which are not getting enough attention*):
* [*Blue Exorcist*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Exorcist)
* [*Princess Mononoke*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Mononoke)
* [*Baccano!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baccano!)
* [*Future Diary*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Diary)
* [*5 Centimeters Per Second*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_Centimeters_Per_Second)
* [*Rosario + Vampire*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosario_%2B_Vampire)
* [*Welcome to the N.H.K.*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_the_N.H.K.)
* [*Another*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_%28novel%29)
* [*School Days*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_Days_%28visual_novel%29)
* [*Air*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_%28visual_novel%29)
* [*Azumanga Daioh*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azumanga_Daioh)
* [*Baka and Test*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baka_and_Test)
* [*Love★Com*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Com)
* [*Love Hina*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Hina)
* [*School Rumble*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_Rumble)
* [*My Neighbor Totoro*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonari_no_Totoro)
* [*Air Gear*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Gear)
* [*Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII%3a_Advent_Children)
* [*Kanon*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanon)
* [*Is This a Zombie?*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_This_a_Zombie%3F)
* [*Chrono Crusade*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrono_Crusade)
* [*Devil May Cry*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_May_Cry%3a_The_Animated_Series)
* [*Serial Experiments Lain*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Experiments_Lain)
* [*ChäoS;HEAd*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos;Head)
* [*Nana*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nana_%28manga%29)
* [*Shuffle!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuffle!)
* [*Special A*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S_%C2%B7_A%3a_Special_A)
* [*Black★Rock Shooter*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rock_Shooter)
* [*Hyōka*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hy%C5%8Dka)
* [*Summer Wars*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_Wars)
* [*Black Cat*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Cat_%28manga%29)
* [*Rozen Maiden*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozen_Maiden)
* [*My Bride is a Mermaid*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Bride_is_a_Mermaid)
* [*Natsume's Book of Friends*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natsume%27s_Book_of_Friends)
* [*BECK*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_%28manga%29)
* [*Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonari_no_Kaibutsu-kun)
* [*Shaman King*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaman_King)
* [*Berserk*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserk_%28manga%29)
* [*Arakawa Under the Bridge*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arakawa_Under_the_Bridge)
* [*Ga-Rei: Zero*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga-rei)
* [*Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love,_Chunibyo_%26_Other_Delusions)
* [*Demon King Daimao*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_King_Daimao)
* [*Heaven's Lost Property*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven%27s_Lost_Property)
* [*IS*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IS_%28Infinite_Stratos%29)
* [*B Gata H Kei*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_Gata_H_Kei_Yamada%E2%80%99s_First_Time)
* [*Kara no Kyōkai*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_no_Ky%C5%8Dkai)
* [*Digimon Adventure*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digimon_Adventure)
* [*Laputa: Castle in the Sky*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_in_the_Sky)
* [*Working!!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working!!)
* [*Grave of the Fireflies*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies)
* [*Umineko: When They Cry*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umineko%3a_When_They_Cry)
* [*Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-Chan*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bludgeoning_Angel_Dokuro-Chan)
* [*Hetalia: Axis Powers*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetalia%3a_Axis_Powers)
* [*Nyan Koi!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyan_Koi!)
* [*Sekirei*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sekirei)
* [*Kiss×sis*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissxsis)
* [*Honey and Clover*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_and_Clover)
* [*Seitokai Yakuindomo*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seitokai_Yakuindomo)
* [*Bunny Drop*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunny_Drop)
* [*Kämpfer*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A4mpfer)
* [*07-Ghost*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/07-Ghost)
* [*Kiki's Delivery Service*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiki%27s_Delivery_Service)
* [*K*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_%28anime%29)
* [*Sankarea*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankarea)
* [*Canaan*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canaan_%28anime%29)
* [*Maria†Holic*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Holic)
* [*Sh<NAME>!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shugo_Chara!)
* [*Minami-ke*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minami-ke)
* [*Nabari no Ou*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabari_no_Ou)
* [*Itazura na Kiss*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itazura_na_Kiss)
* [*Ah! My Goddess*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ah!_My_Goddess)
* [*Romeo x Juliet*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romeo_x_Juliet)
* [*My-HiME*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mai-HiME)
* [*My-Otome*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My-Otome)
* [*Kyoushirou to Towa no Sora*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoushirou_to_Towa_no_Sora)
* [*<NAME>*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Angel_Kurumi)
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: On ANN:
* [Top 50 anime, best rated](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-anime.php?top50=best_bayesian), highest rating using bayesian estimate
* [Top 50 anime, most viewed](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-anime.php?top50=most_viewed), highest number of votes (good or bad)
* [Top 50 manga, best rated](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-manga.php?top50=best_bayesian)
* [Top 50 manga, most viewed](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/ratings-manga.php?top50=most_viewed)
Combining these 4 lists, removing duplicates, and removing what we already have tagged, we get:
* 20th/21st Century Boys
* 5 Centimeters Per Second
* A Bride's Story
* Absolute Boyfriend
* Air Gear
* Alice 19th
* Angel Sanctuary
* Ao Haru Ride
* Azumanga Daioh
* Baccano!
* Berserk
* Blade of the Immortal
* Buddha
* Bunny Drop
* Cardcaptor Sakura
* Ceres: Celestial Legend
* Children of the Sea
* Claymore
* Cross Game
* D.N.Angel
* <NAME>
* FLCL
* Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
* Fruits Basket
* Full Metal Panic!
* Fushigi Yugi
* Glass no Kamen
* Grave of the Fireflies
* Gravitation
* Gurren Lagann
* Hana-Kimi
* Hellsing
* Historie
* Honey and Clover
* Kanon
* Kare Kano
* Kino's Journey
* Koori no Mamono no Monogatari
* Legend of the Galactic Heroes
* Lone Wolf and Cub
* Love Hina
* Magic Knight Rayearth
* <NAME>oku
* Maria Watches Over Us
* Message to Adolf
* Mononoke
* NANA
* Natsume's Book of Friends
* Nausica: of the Valley of the Wind
* Ode to Kirihito
* Oh My Goddess!
* Panorama of Hell
* Phoenix
* Pluto
* <NAME>onoke
* REAL
* Saiyuki Gaiden
* Sakura-Gari
* Sanctuary
* Shaman King
* Solanin
* Stigma
* Summer Wars
* Betrayal Knows My Name
* Garden of Sinners (Kara no Kyoukai)
* The Girl Who Leapt Through Time
* The Heart of Thomas
* The World is Mine
* Town of Evening Calm, Country of Cherry Blossoms
* Twin Spica
* Vagabond
* Vinland Saga
* Wandering Son
* With the Light: Raising an Autistic Child
* Wolf's Rain
* Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou
* Yotsuba&!
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/03/28 | 688 | 2,627 | <issue_start>username_0: There have been various [anime](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTQYAsUMGFg) and manga on Gundam models and model building. Model building is also a big part of otaku culture.
Is the discussion of Gundam models or model/figures or the activity of building them (as long as they are based on anime or manga series, like Patlabor, Full Metal Panic, or Evangelion) considered on topic on this site?<issue_comment>username_1: As long as it sticks to anime and doesn't stray too much into purely otaku culture or ends up with too many questions about non-anime figures, it doesn't seem like it should be too much of a problem. That being said, it should probably be done only on a trial run and we should see if there are good questions being asked.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: This is a pretty big area, and I think it should be allowed in our scope. We aren't at any risk of getting overrun by these sorts of questions, and it is something that many Otaku are interested in.
However, I think we should draw the line somewhere. If the question is about figures/models in general, and not anime figures specifically, it should not be on this site. We should only be entertaining questions which are anime-specific in some sense. Furthermore, the questions we allow should be about the models themselves, not the process of building them, because this rarely has much to do with anime (in the rare cases that the question is anime-specific and about building, it can be allowed). I think this is roughly analagous to our [policy on questions about anime-style and anime-inspired games](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/415/24), where gameplay questions aren't allowed but questions about the plot are. I'd also invite model-builders to start their own SE site dedicated to the topic which can handle the more technical questions of the field.
**Update: see [this Area51 proposal](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/53561/scale-models?referrer=8bWeKh32B7u-FbGCwdfNRw2), which would cover aspects of model-building in depth.**
I'd like to also suggest that not only Gunpla and figures, but all anime merchandise be allowed under the same rules. This is **not** inviting questions like "Where can I buy figures cheaply?" or "What online stores will ship anime merchandise to Azerbaijan?". Those sorts of questions are not constructive on any SE site. However, if someone wants to ask "What flavors are the [Evangelion cakes](http://zotaku.com/2012/07/17/these-evangelion-cakes-pretty-interesting-and-expensive/)?" then I think that's a valid question (though a bit silly).
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/03/30 | 2,924 | 11,789 | <issue_start>username_0: Our current [Area51 Statistics](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/31538/anime-manga) are mostly in the "Okay" category, which in my opinion is a sign that we're progressing at an acceptable rate. I've been [collecting statistics](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/419/24) for a while now and we're showing a steady improvement in many of the numbers.
However, two of our statistics have stayed the same or decreased for the most part. Our Answer ratio (roughly, the number of answers per question, but exactly how it is calculated is not entirely clear) has been around 1.5 for a long time, which is **one of the lowest in Area51**. StackExchange would prefer that we be getting 2.5 or more answers per question. While 1.5 technically is still "Okay", I can't find any sites with answer ratios that are significantly lower (the lowest I could find was 1.4), and this number is unlikely to improve on its own. The trend seems to be for just 1 answer per question, and at that point there's not much advantage of the StackExchange Q&A model over a wiki answers site.
Our % Answered has also been dropping a bit. In our early days we were well above 90%, but when we started seeding questions from lesser-known series this dropped to around 89-90%. We've recently dropped to 88% a couple of times. This is still far above the borderline for what's considered "Okay" but we are in the bottom 20% of all Area51 sites (most of which are in the 95-100% range). This number also doesn't show signs of improving. It may be that this site will always have a somewhat low % Answered simply because our scope includes a lot of very obscure things, but in my opinion we should at least try to improve this.
**What can we do to improve these numbers, i.e. to attract more answers per question, and get people to answer our unanswered questions?**<issue_comment>username_1: I'll throw my two cents in here:
Don't be afraid to speculate!
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Even if your answer isn't "supported by facts" (what facts?, this is anime for crying out loud!), or has a "definite citing source", don't be afraid to give it! If it's speculative by nature, but has good, intelligent arguments that are in your favor, don't be afraid to share it!
The whole point of this site is that multiple answers are posted, and the best one is voted to the top.
Can I have a second opinion?
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If you see a question posted, but the answer there doesn't sit well with what you understood of the plot/situation/question, don't be afraid to give your own answer to it!
Leaving a comment is fine, but providing with a full answer to better explain your opinion is better! Who knows? Maybe yours will be voted to the top, if it's better.
Remember that not all is definite
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This is *anime*, not *math*, there's more than meets the eye, and there's more than one side to any story. Many questions don't have absolute answers as told in the anime or manga, don't be afraid to give your answer, even if it has no definitive proof elsewhere (just make sure to say so!)
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All in all
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Have fun, this is a recreational site, we value the answerer's *opinions* as well as their *knowledge*, remember that there's no such thing as a real "anime expert".
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Second Opinion!
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* Publicly share questions via our personal social accounts etc.
* Ask small, [simple](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/112/can-you-ask-questions-even-if-the-answer-is-easily-found-elsewhere) general questions, the easier and more relatable *(some popular Anime)* the question is, the more likely someone knows the answer, this will also help boost our content
* Work a tag you that you see is low on answers or occasionally skim through the Unanswered tab.
* If a question is already answered, still chip in and add your view(s) or additional information to it.
* >
> Don't be afraid to post spoilers.. that's what this tag is for!
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Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: Bounties
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After adding the bounty to [What is the purpose of characters shouting out the name of their attack?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2886/) the question received 4 more answers not including my own. None of them really got to what I wanted, but at least we got more input on the topic from multiple people. If you see an interesting question that hasn't received enough love, try giving it a bounty. Even if there is already an accepted answer for the question, you could place a bounty asking for an answer with a source, an answer with more detail, etc.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: I think all three of the previous answers are good advice. However, thinking that just following those good practices will solve the problem without making any other changes to how we do things around here seems too idealistic to me. All three of the existing answers are things that we should be doing, and to some degree we are doing them, but our statistics have not improved. This suggests that more drastic actions may be warranted.
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I decided to look at what kinds of questions are getting answered, and how well they are getting answered. For this, I divided up the questions on our site into 3 categories. These are the following:
1. **General Questions**: Questions not about any particular series, but about anime in general. ID requests for a particular series are included here also. The reasoning behind this is that answering such a question typically doesn't require expert-level knowledge of a particular series, but rather broad knowledge of a lot of series.
2. **Popular Series**: Series with 10+ questions as of writing this. Specifically, these are Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Pokemon, Fairy Tail, and Death Note. This was a convenient place to cut off, because above this point are mostly series that are popular enough that casual anime fans are likely to have watched them, while below are mostly less common series. There are some exceptions (Cowboy Bebop and Neon Genesis Evangelion come to mind) but most series with fewer than 10 questions are not as popular as those above.
3. **Other Series**: Questions about any series other than those listed above.
Here are some statistics. I compiled these at roughly 2:00 UTC today, March 19th. There are 118 unanswered questions. Out of the current unanswered questions, here's how they're divided up.
**General Questions**: 5 unanswered (4.2% of all unanswered)
**Popular Series**: 7 unanswered (5.9% of all unanswered)
**Other Series**: 106 unanswered (89.8% of all unanswered)
Most of our unanswered questions are about particular series which tend to be less popular. Let's go one step further, and figure out how many total questions there are in each category. There are currently 919 total questions. The following statistics are my best estimates, but I may have miscounted a few questions, though this shouldn't change the numbers much.
**General Questions**: 133 total (14.5% of all questions, 96.2% answered and/or closed)
**Popular Series**: 309 total (33.6% of all questions, 97.7% answered and/or closed)
**Other Series**: 477 total (51.9% of all questions, 77.8% answered and/or closed)
It shouldn't be surprising that we do better on popular series and general questions than on less popular ones, but the degree to which this is true was surprising to me. It also seems to be true that the first two categories tend to have more answers per question. That is to say, with mainstream series and general questions, we're doing pretty well, but with less popular series we are having a lot of difficulty.
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This suggests to me that the reason our answer stats are low is because we have a lot of questions on this site for which there aren't any experts on the series. To put it differently, the long tail on this site is particularly long, compared to what we are prepared to answer. There are thus 3 things which we can do:
1. **Get more experts**: This would be the ideal solution, but I do not know of any way to accomplish it, except waiting and promoting our site. We've tried various things, but they don't seem to be working particularly quickly.
2. **Ask more questions in categories 1 and 2 and fewer in category 3**: These will dilute the questions in category 3 in our statistics. However, to do so effectively, we'd need roughly 63% of our questions to be of those categories 1 and 2 to reach 90% answered, and 78% to reach 93%. Even if we got no new questions in category 3, those would require roughly 370 and 1250 questions of category 1 or 2, respectively. These do not seem like feasible numbers in the near future. Closing some particularly bad questions in category 3 will help some, but I don't think this is likely to solve the issue.
3. **Become experts in these series ourselves**: To some degree, some users have already been doing this by doing extensive research on these questions, but this isn't really consistent with the Stack Exchange philosophy for Q&A.
None of these are good solutions, but they are the best options that I can think of. There are other options, which are even worse, such as restricting our scope to only popular series or providing and upvoting low quality useless answers, but at this point I think we would be actively harming the site for the sake of statistics, which is an incredibly moronic thing to do.
With that in mind, I personally will not be asking any more questions from category 3 unless I'm certain they will get answered, and I'd urge other users who are asking questions mostly for the purpose of seeding to do the same. This may hurt our questions per day statistic, but we're doing fine in that department in my opinion. We're around the median for questions per day, while we're way below the median in terms of answer stats. Also, we're near the bottom in terms of our total number of users. I suspect that our small user base is simply overwhelmed with 5+ questions per day, and by temporarily decreasing this number substantially we could improve the other stats.
Also, I am in no small part to blame for the problem, since I have 19 unanswered questions myself out of 72 total (only 73.6% answered). Some of those are questions for which I know the answer to; I'll answer them myself or give the answer to some other user. Others are probably answerable, but maybe too difficult or too niche. I'll gradually be going through these and either editing them to be easier or deleting them entirely. I may undelete them at some point in the future if we get more users with broader interests. I don't particularly want to delete these questions, since they provide lots of good things for new users with broad interests to answer, but for the moment it makes more sense to focus on more mainstream series.
As a note, I hope that having more questions about Naruto, Bleach, etc. will not be a turn-off to future experts. There is a difficulty in anime that many people who have very broad interests are not particularly interested in mainstream series. However, I think that we can simultaneously please the experts and keep our content more mainstream than it is right now as long as we focus on things which are still popular, but not extremely popular. That is to say, we should be looking through lists of popular anime (such as [MAL's list](http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=bypopularity)) and targetting the top 100-or-so series, as well as currently airing popular seires. These are things that still have lots of fans, and consequently lots of experts, but are diverse enough to have things that interest all types of fans.
Upvotes: 3 |
2013/04/01 | 1,002 | 4,008 | <issue_start>username_0: We (the moderators) were notified that Stack Exchange have now implemented **Unicode in tags**.
And I quote:
>
> New Unicode Tag System
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> Full Unicode support for tags now available and can be turned on for
> sites that need it. If you think your site would benefit from it, make
> a meta post, including examples of how it would be beneficial, gather
> community support, and propose a plan for how you’d use these tags
> either alongside or instead of “normal” tags. The more information you
> can provide, the more easily we can implement your request. [...]
>
>
>
***The question is simple, do we need them? I want to hear your opinions on this.***
What does Unicode in tags mean?
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* We can have weird characters (such as ¿, µ, etc) in tags.
* We can have tags in different languages (such as Japanese).<issue_comment>username_1: I think this is a **no**.
I say this for a few reasons:
* It could potentially lead to lots of non-English questions. I think we should try to stick to English as our primary language due to its significant presence throughout existing SE sites (even on language and usage sites).
* People coming from a Japanese background will still know rōmaji and have the IMEs to use English. Those of us in English-speaking countries do not always have (easy) access to (for example) Japanese IMEs, so we may not be able to easily search or understand tags.
* There are *few* instances when a tag name is too long. In these cases, unicode may be acceptable (such as changing *ou* to *ō* or a similar concept) to make the tag fit into 23 characters.
I don't think we'd benefit at all from the unicode tags, and I think more than anything it could prevent people from finding the tags and questions they're looking for.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I would have to say no, it would only further complicate things as they are.. I say let [English](http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2009/03/the-ugly-american-programmer.html) be the norm.
Cons
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* Im assuming at least 80% of this site consists of English speaking individuals.
* It could and will more than likely lead to a barrage of cryptic questions, tags and answers.
* To a non japanese speaking individual *(using a tame example, imagine more cryptic symbols than this)*, what the hell is (はじめの一歩)? *Hajime no Ippo*
* Tag maintaining nightmare.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: There are a couple things I need to know about how the Unicode tags will work before I can decide if we have use for them. We definitely don't **need** them, because tagging on our site is functioning decently at the moment, but there are a few issues that these could help with.
1) Will this increase the 25 character limit? If not, it still gives us a couple more characters when using Japanese titles (because of macrons), but not a lot more. That is, of course, assuming we don't use actual Japanese tags, which seems like a good idea since a lot of our users do not read or speak Japanese.
2) How will searching for the unicode characters work? For instance, will it catch tags using "ō" if I search for something with "o"? If not, we'll need synonyms in each of these cases because many of our users are not going to be accustomed to typing strange unicode characters.
The only real issue I have with the tagging system right now is that 25 characters is frequently not enough for us. If this will increase that limit, and the searching is going to remain intuitive for new users, then I'm all for it. Otherwise, I don't think it's a big help to us.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: I think each series tag should have all possible (official and unofficial, local and export) show names and variants, including those which are supposed to be written using unicode symbols in the **tag's wiki**, so that they could be found through search. The tag names themselves should stay alphanumeric.
Upvotes: 1 |
2013/04/04 | 625 | 2,672 | <issue_start>username_0: I have noticed that I have a number of questions that aren't answered and probably won't be answered, and so even though they have upvotes, they aren't very useful or productive questions. [This](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2787/where-is-vampire-knight-set) is one of them. Is there any merit to keeping questions like these or should I just delete it?<issue_comment>username_1: You may delete your question if you no longer wish to have it be answered, but as long as it meets the guidelines discussed in the [FAQ](https://anime.stackexchange.com/faq), you are welcomed to ask this on the main site.
You may add a bounty to you question, to attract users, if you feel that the question has not received enough attention.
Sometimes questions maybe unclear and therefore users might not be understand what you are trying to ask. Adding some examples or picture can help convey to other users the context of the question that you are trying to ask.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I would not advise you to delete it just because it's unanswered.
There is some merit to keeping some unanswered questions on the site. These serve to illustrate what areas our community may be lacking in expertise, and if a new user comes who is an expert in these topics and answers them they'll likely be rewarded for that. Deleting the questions, by contrast, puts the emphasis on things which we are already experts in, which is fairly limiting. We should be trying to expand that, but deleting the questions will have the opposite effect. Having your questions unanswered isn't a big problem if they are answerable. The question you linked to seems answerable to me, though I don't know the answer.
If you find the answer to your question yourself, feel free to answer it yourself. If you're still interested in the question, but it's been unanswered for some time, try editing it to make it more clear. If you think the question is already clear, consider putting a bounty on it.
That being said, there's nothing wrong with deleting the question if you really don't care about it anymore. That's up to you, and I don't think it's reasonable to try to enforce any sort of global policy with regards to self-deletions. However, I personally would not do so just because the question is **unanswered**, but only in cases where I think the question is probably **unanswerable**.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: would it not make more sense to 'close' the question rather than delete it outright? Suppose it's determined that the question is unanswerable - that's information for someone who's googling the same question.
Upvotes: 1 |
2013/04/04 | 1,694 | 5,523 | <issue_start>username_0: We have three tags related to the "When they Cry" franchise: [when-they-cry](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/when-they-cry "show questions tagged 'when-they-cry'"), [higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni "show questions tagged 'higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni'"), and [umineko-no-naku-koro-ni](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni "show questions tagged 'umineko-no-naku-koro-ni'"). Are all three of these necessary? And if not, which should we keep, and what synonyms should we use?<issue_comment>username_1: In my opinion we do not need all three tags.
There is very little in common between Higurashi and Umineko. The characters are almost entirely different, and the plots are basically unrelated. Almost all the in-universe questions that make sense to ask are specific to one or the other. Plenty of people (including to some degree myself) are an expert on one but not the other. Wikipedia doesn't even have a real entry for the series; [what they have](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_They_Cry) is a disambiguation page pointing to Higurashi and Umineko. Hence, we should probably have different tags for the two.
As for whether we need a third tag for the series as a whole, this seems unnecessary right now. It's not prohibitive to just use tags for both Higurashi and Umineko for the few questions about the series as a whole. More importantly, this tag risks being used on questions which are specific to one or the other, like [What exactly are the rollbacks in Higurashi?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/181/what-exactly-are-the-rollbacks-in-higurashi). If that happens, this tag will be the most used, which will be bad for SEO since "Higurashi" and "Umineko" are likely to be the most common search terms. If the franchise expands significantly it might eventually be necessary, but for now such a tag is counterproductive and harmful to SEO.
As for what tags to use, all things being equal we should prefer the English language version of the names. The most common search terms are just "Higurashi" and "Umineko" which will be caught by either the English or Japanese titles. Hence we should use [higurashi-when-they-cry](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/higurashi-when-they-cry "show questions tagged 'higurashi-when-they-cry'") and [umineko-when-they-cry](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/umineko-when-they-cry "show questions tagged 'umineko-when-they-cry'"). Synonyms should be made for the Japanese names [higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni "show questions tagged 'higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni'") and [umineko-no-naku-koro-ni](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni "show questions tagged 'umineko-no-naku-koro-ni'").
**tl;dr**:
* Add [higurashi-when-they-cry](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/higurashi-when-they-cry "show questions tagged 'higurashi-when-they-cry'") with synonym [higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni "show questions tagged 'higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni'").
* Add [umineko-when-they-cry](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/umineko-when-they-cry "show questions tagged 'umineko-when-they-cry'") with synonym [umineko-no-naku-koro-ni](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni "show questions tagged 'umineko-no-naku-koro-ni'").
* Kill [when-they-cry](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/when-they-cry "show questions tagged 'when-they-cry'"). Questions about the series should be tagged with both [higurashi-when-they-cry](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/higurashi-when-they-cry "show questions tagged 'higurashi-when-they-cry'") and [umineko-when-they-cry](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/umineko-when-they-cry "show questions tagged 'umineko-when-they-cry'").
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: **Keep all three tags.**
* [higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni "show questions tagged 'higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni'") is specific to Higurashi (WTC1-2)
* [umineko-no-naku-koro-ni](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni "show questions tagged 'umineko-no-naku-koro-ni'") is specific to Umineko (WTC3-4)
* [when-they-cry](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/when-they-cry "show questions tagged 'when-they-cry'") is for overlapping parts of the franchise
The Umineko sound novels provide some further insight into the workings of some parts of Higurashi, and therefore [What exactly are the rollbacks in Higurashi?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/181/what-exactly-are-the-rollbacks-in-higurashi) probably could not be explained fully without knowledge gained from Umineko, despite it being a question about Higurashi. This is why it is tagged [when-they-cry](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/when-they-cry "show questions tagged 'when-they-cry'") - this is a question about overlapping parts of the franchise.
If they are so unrelated as username_1's answer claims, then why has the creator given them not only similar Japanese titles but also series-like English titles?
Not sure if this is worth nothing, but it is rumored that WTC5 is in the works to some degree already.
Upvotes: -1 |
2013/04/17 | 1,059 | 4,205 | <issue_start>username_0: We've had a few questions about how otaku are seen in Japanese culture. [Do otaku tend to be bullied?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2953/24) was closed fairly quickly. This question asks about how Japanese people see otaku. On the other hand, [Is the term Otaku derogatory?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3410/24) was asked recently, and doesn't seem to be in any immediate danger of being closed. It asks about what connotations are associated with the term.
In my view both of these questions are fairly similar in that they are mostly about otaku (either the term or the people, but in a broad cultural context) and not anime. Perhaps on that basis, both of them should be closed. That would also seem to affect [What kinds of activities can be found in a Manga/Anime Club?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2852/24), though, which is highly upvoted and favorited. I'm not sure that question is on-topic either, despite writing the only answer to it, but it doesn't seem like anyone wants it closed at the moment.
What sorts of questions about otaku should we allow within our scope?<issue_comment>username_1: I would say to keep the question that can be answered properly open. So all questions asking for opinions or personal situations ([Do otaku tend to be bullied?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2953/24)) should/could be closed.
Questions asking about certain cultural things (related to anime/manga of course, so questions about the Japanese language are off-topic, as stated by the [faq](https://anime.stackexchange.com/faq)) that have specific answers ([Is the term Otaku derogatory?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3410/is-the-term-otaku-derogatory)) could/should be left open. Even if they are (partially) overlapping with other SE topics. Such overlap is with a lot of SE sites and is unavoidable IMHO.
There is also the topic of anime [conventions](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/conventions "show questions tagged 'conventions'"), these *are* cultural and anime/manga specific, but probably result in closed questions as they probably tend to be non constructive. So we might need to form a rule about this, but I guess this becomes more clear in the future (if any of these questions pop up).
About [What kinds of activities can be found in a Manga/Anime Club?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2852/24): according to the 'rules' it is not constructive. Which is shown by the answer, which is a huge list of all kind of activities. Even though its length, it will never be complete and other clubs might do other things (ie it tends to be an opinion). But then again, it is very popular and probably attracts visitors (people looking for this information might arrive here, as the list is quick extensive, and stay here), which is what our SE site still needs...
So I tend to go with 'leave this question' open even though it does not completely fit according to the rules. I suppose there is a gray area in which questions needs to be checked manually to determine whether they are fit or not. Hopefully, after time/experience this gay area becomes smaller and smaller (and the rules/preferences become more clear).
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: I largely agree with [@username_1](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/users/51/veger)'s [answer](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/525/274), but I'd like to sum up my thoughts in a succinct way:
**If the question is constructive and pertains to culture specific to the anime/manga community, I think it should be allowed.**
If you exclude us, currently, there is no StackExchange network site which handles anime culture. And, since I think it's fair to say that most anime fans will know anime culture at least decently well, I think that makes it somewhat fitting for the people on this site to be the ones answering those questions.
The only qualm I have about these questions is that I think many of the answers will tend to relate more to social and societal influences in Japan rather than about the anime-specific component of the question. But I think that's a detail that's left to be sorted out by those voting on the answer.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/04/21 | 758 | 3,371 | <issue_start>username_0: I was reading [What exactly happened to Tsubasa Chronicle ending?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3436/what-exactly-happened-to-tsubasa-chronicle-ending) and, as I commented on it, it is really multiple questions. There is the question asked in the title, which is really different than the two questions asked in the body, which are different from each other. What should we do about questions like this?
Answering them doesn't necessary solve the problem, because while I can answer all three questions, it just makes for a really long, drawn out answer and makes it more difficult for anyone looking for an answer to one of the questions to find the answer.
Another option is to down-vote or close the question, both of which I am reluctant to do because they are all good questions, just not necessarily manageable together.
Another option is edit the current one to ask one question and then ask the other two, but then whoever asks them gets the votes instead of the current asker.
What are the thoughts on what should be done about this?<issue_comment>username_1: I think asking the person to split it into two questions, and voting to close it unless they do, is a fine way to handle it. One of my first questions was treated that way, and it let me narrow it down to one good question, get it re-opened, and then get some really great answers.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Questions should really only have one part. There should be one underlying question, which is what the title is about. That isn't to say that there can only be one question, but all the questions should be closely related (enough that someone who could answer one could also probably answer the others), and they should all be about the same thing. The difficulty with multi-part questions is that they aren't easily searchable, and they are harder to answer completely than if the question was split up.
I'm not knowledgeable enough in this case to tell whether these really are different or if it makes sense to bundle them together. However, in general, if you find such a question, you should ask the OP to edit the question to be more focused (as you did). If they do so, then the problem is solved.
If the OP doesn't respond after a reasonable amount of time (at least give them a few days, or until the next time they log in), it's a tricky business. I'd suggest closing it, then editing the question to be more focused on the title question. After reopening it you can answer that. Closing it really is a formality if you want to answer the question, but it's more acceptable to make fairly drastic edits like this to closed questions IMO. If the other questions in the post are also worth answering, you can post them as separate questions and answer them yourself (and add a comment directing the OP to those posts as well).
It's possible that the OP might come back much later and complain about this. However, if you gave them enough time to edit it themselves, and they didn't, then they don't really have much right to be complaining in my opinion. This is part of what makes Stack Exchange sites different from other fora: we value the content more than the users. By salvaging their their post you are doing both them and the site a favor. If they have a problem with that this isn't the right site for them.
Upvotes: 1 |
2013/04/24 | 2,305 | 8,610 | <issue_start>username_0: Recently, we had a main-site post, [Who was the first "trap" character](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3520/who-was-the-first-trap-character).
This post generated a lot of controversy for the use of the term "trap" to describe cross-dressing characters, amassing 3 upvotes, 3 downvotes, at least one offensive flag, and one favorite in under an hour. In general, "trap" refers to a male character (in the biological sense; the character's gender identity and sexual orientation are not usually implied by the term) who is mistaken (deliberately or accidentally) for a female (for instance, based on their choice of clothing). The term "reverse trap" is often applied to the reverse situation of a female dressing like a male, though sometimes "trap" is used for both cases.
This term was seen as offensive to some as a transgender slur (see, for instance, [this tumblr post](http://eshusplayground.tumblr.com/post/35273419707/trigger-warning-transmisogyny-anti-trans-slur)). However, the term is fairly standardized in the anime community (for instance, see [this Know Your Meme article](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/traps)), and is not usually intended as a slur in this context. A [Google search](https://www.google.com/search?q=traps+in+anime&rlz=1C1TSNO_enUS459US459&aq=f&oq=traps+in+anime&aqs=chrome.0.57j60j0l3j60.2295j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&gs_rn=11&gs_ri=psy-ab&gs_mss=anime%20traps&tok=7bLWM2FcxioxrPNa79jlFQ&pq=anime%20traps&cp=10&gs_id=45&xhr=t&q=anime+traps&es_nrs=true&pf=p&rlz=1C1TSNO_enUS459US459&sclient=psy-ab&oq=anime+trap&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=a8294ff09a11e412&biw=1454&bih=665) for "Anime traps" gives millions of results, coming from many anime blogs, fora, and other sites, and none of these seem to be deliberately using the term in an offensive way.
What should we do in this case? Should we treat the term as offensive and use a different term for the same concept? Or should we allow use of the term despite it's potential to offend some people? Also, how should we deal with similar cases in the future?<issue_comment>username_1: This is a very difficult issue, and one I had not expected; I didn't even know the word was controversial.
That said, this is not something easy to sort out; even if we determine a policy that such words are allowed, some users will still inevitably find them offensive and vote down a question as a result, or flag the post. It is difficult to communicate to these users that the terms are allowed due to their commonness and the fact that they are not used in a derogatory manner.
However, **I think it is in the best interests of the site to allow questions containing words which some users may find offensive, but which are common terms in the anime community.**
We have already decided that things such as *ecchi* are allowed (in moderation) and we know that any user must legally be 13 years of age or older. This means we *should* trust them to be mature about sensitive issues. Not only that, but most people here are familiar with anime and should understand the context the word is in. **If a user takes issue with such a post, they are free to comment, start a meta, or come to chat to discuss it with a moderator.**
*(Keep in mind that moderators can super-ping users to chat so that they can carry on a discussion about the issue. This, of course, means that any OP should be able to back up why he has chosen such a word—did he hear it once and not know it was offensive (in which case it should be changed), or is it actually a common word which is not meant to be offensive?)*
TL;DR
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We need to tread carefully here, but the fact is that some common terms (*trap* appears to be a good example) can also be taken offensively. The terms which we choose to allow may need to be taken on a case-by-case basis, but in general **I think it's best to allow them** if they are common in non-offensive usage.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_2: Not the same, but similar:
[](http://xkcd.com/1172/)
Anything has the potential of offending anyone. My advice to you is:
Don't take things personally
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It may seem as if someone hit a sensitive spot, by either speaking of a fetish, a disability, or a mental state. Don't take it personally, it doesn't revolve around you, nor is it pointed at you.
However
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When you do see things, don't be afraid to report them, ideally with a *custom flag*, and tell us why you find it abusive, remember that we're all people, we're not experts in all areas, we don't know what might offend you.
Authors
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Be careful, anything can offend anyone, write respectfully, and be professional. Don't hesitate to edit to clarify that offending isn't your intention.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: It seems like the strong consensus in this case is to continue using the term "trap" but treat similar future cases on an individual basis. This is a decision that I agree with (I agree with both of the posted answers), but I'd like to focus on why, in my opinion, "trap" is acceptable to use on this site (with apologies to anyone offended by the term). In my opinion these are good criteria to look at in future cases, should any arise.
1. The **origin of the term is not offensive**. The origin is (as far as I can tell) on 4chan's /a/ board exclusively to describe anime characters, many of whom are not transgender (the group at which the slur is aimed). Please correct me on this if I am mistaken. However, assuming this is correct, anyone using the term as a slur is arguably misusing the term. Admittedly, 4chan isn't really a great place to be getting our terminology from, but it seems to have stuck in this case.
2. The **intended meaning was not offensive**. In this case, the intended meaning exactly matches the original meaning. The term is not being applied to any real-life people, and certainly not as a slur. If it were used in such a way, that would constitute offensive language. Even the tumblr post linked above only claims the term is, as far as I can tell, only complaining about its use to describe actual transgender people, not fictional characters.
3. There is **no equivalent less-offensive term** to describe the same thing. All of the alternatives are either not sufficient or too wordy to be useful in practice. "Male character who is often mistaken for a female" is wordy and hard to follow when used in complex sentences, and also doesn't demonstrate that the trope exists. "Trap" is concise, searchable, and the mere existence of the term is sufficient to demonstrate how common it is as a character trait.
4. The way the term is being used is its **most common usage**. This needs to be qualified a bit. Given that we are a site about anime, we should consider the use of the term among the anime community. Our user base isn't totally representative of the broader anime community, but it's fairly close. Most, if not all, of our high-rep users were aware of the meaning of "trap" to describe anime characters, and as far as I can tell none of us were aware that it was used outside that context, let alone as a slur. Furthermore, other anime sites regularly use the term very often, and I've never seen it claimed on any such site that the term is offensive. I do not know about the broader rates of usage of "trap", but the slur meaning must not be terribly common among the general public either if none of us were aware of it. As such, it is not likely to be confused for a slur when used on this site.
With all that said, it is worth noting that the objections to the term are not minor either. Any term used as a slur against a group of people should be used with caution. If you intend to use it, it's probably worth pointing out in your post that it is not intended to be offensive. However, we can't be expected to conform to every possible standard of inoffensiveness either, as anyone can find anything offensive. Furthermore, it wouldn't really solve anything, since a lot of the material in anime is itself considered offensive by some people. It's hard to imagine that, for instance, Maria Holic, Detroit Metal City, or Kodomo no Jikan would be considered inoffensive by anyone offended by "trap".
So, again with apologies to anyone offended by the term, it seems like we're going to continue using "trap" to describe such characters barring opinions drastically shifting, any of the above points changing, or some higher power telling us not to do so.
Upvotes: 3 |
2013/04/30 | 2,435 | 8,715 | <issue_start>username_0: Currently we have a weekly event on Saturdays in order to encourage users to come and as question of a specific flavor. It's easier to participate when you have a topic to narrow things down.
[So far we've done the following flavors](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/539/what-flavors-have-already-been-featured-in-flavor-day):
* "Cats" (and cat-related things)
* "Small" and "cute"
* "Games" and "sports"
* "Music"
* "80-90s Classics"
* "Swimming" and "Beaches"
* "Shoujo" and/or "romance"
* "Parodies" and "Cross-references"
**Flavors can be used more than once**, so if you want to do a flavor that's been done before, feel free to upvote it again if you would like the flavor done again!
If you have a new flavor you'd like to suggest, feel free to post it here. Nothing is off-limits, but lets try to keep things kosher. **Answers with at least 3 upvotes will be considered.**
**In the event of a tie, whichever answer is older will be chosen** (unless anyone has a better suggestion for how to break ties).
Some suggestions to follow:
* Try not to be be too abstract. Given users a better idea of the theme. "Swimming" and "beaches" are fine, but "cold" and "sweet" might be a bit vague.
* One flavor is fine , but two usually is better, in cause someone is not interested in one, they can do the other. Try to have some relation between the two flavors. E.g. for "small" and "cute," small things are usually cute.
* Try to include a brief of why you choose your flavor(s) so other ppl will know what to expect. E.g., I propose "food" and "shopping" because I'd like to see more questions about cooking anime/manga.
* Have fun~
Use this template for your suggestion(s), **one suggestion per answer please**:
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**Flavors:** "Swimming" and/or "Beaches"
**Description:** Anything related to girls and guys swimming (indoors or outdoors), or participating in beach sports or events (like beach volleyball, suntanning, etc.).
This was one of the themes that didn't make the cut this week, but I still think it has lots of potential without being too broad; plus, who doesn't love beach scenes?
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: This flavor was chosen for June 1, 2013
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**Flavors:** Shoujo and/or romance
**Description:** Questions about shoujo series, or the romance aspects of any series.
I've seen a lot of questions about shounen series, but not nearly as many as its female counterpart. It would be nice to see more though.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: This flavor was chosen for May 11, 2013
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**Flavor**: Music (including OP and ED sequences)
**Description**: Anything related to anime about music, or music in anime (such as theme songs).
Almost all anime have theme songs, and most have a lot more music in their OSTs than just that. As such, it's something that fans of many different genres can ask about. Also, shows about music, like Nodame Cantabile and Beck, don't seem to be getting many questions, so this could potentially help generate a few.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: **Flavor:** Dreams and Illusions
**Description:** Any questions relating to the meaning of dreams, illusions, or hallucinations in anime or manga.
There are a lot of anime with dreams or illusions playing an important part. Sometimes it can be really confusing for a Western audience who don't understand the imagery that takes place in them.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_5: **Flavors:** "Robots" and/or "Monsters/Aliens"
**Description:** Question about your robots (giant, life-size, or miniature, there's not enough questions about robots and mechs), technology (why is Ichika the only male IS pilot?), mechanics ([anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'")? How do Lucy's vectors work in Elfen Lied), and monster/aliens physiology (Human-Zentraedi relations), motives/politics (in MaouYuu, how are demon lords chosen), and battles/action scenes involving them.
I'd like to highlight some of our existing series tags involving these topics promote more questions of those tags. More robots/mecha, more power!
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_6: This flavor was chosen for May 18, 2013
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**Flavors:** ~~80's/early 90's OVAs and/or "Classics"~~ "80-90s Classics"
**Description:** In the 80's and early 90's, generally known for the "OVA boom" filled with some really high quality productions (and sometimes remarkably bad) of OVAs that were no longer than 2 or 3 episodes. Questions about OVAs from this era, like Amon Saga, Cosmos Pink Shock, Baoh, Earthian, Angel Cop, Bounty Dog, Judge, Roots Search, etc.
Or, questions about the OVAs, movies, and TV series from the early 90's or older: Space Battleship Yamato, Galaxy Express 999, Future Boy Conan, Fist of the Northstar, Touch, Maison Ikkoku, Mobile Suit Gundam, SDF Macross, etc.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_7: This flavor was chosen for June 15, 2013
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**Flavors:** "Parodies" and "cross-references"
**Description:** Question about the parodies and references in anime/manga/light novels, of real life events, other anime/manga/light novels. For example, *Sayonara Z<NAME>i*, *Hayate no Gotoku*, *Haiyore! Nyaruko-san*, *Joshiraku*, ... makes a large number of parodies and references to real life event happening at the time of publication and old anime/manga.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_5: **Flavors:** "Allegory" and "Symbolism"
**Description:** A lot of series tend to hide deeper behind opject or story telling that are not immediately obvious or are missed the first time around. I'd like to invite ppl to revisit and re-examine potentional plot points and connections that they may have missed or the tropes related to them. E.g. the cave allegory in the *Ghost in the Shell* series; Apples in certain anime.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: **Flavors:** "Pets" or [specific type of pet]
**Description:** We did **cats** why not do other pets or familiars?
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_8: **Flavours:** "Space" or "Foreign lands"
**Description:** Questions about anime that are located outside Japan, or even outside Earth! Could deal with stereotypical views of foreigners, alien contact, School Trips, etc. I'd imagine it should be a broad enough range to fit various interesting questions in.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: **Flavors**: Winter and/or Christmas
**Description:** Many anime have winter themed episodes, and Christmas specials are also not uncommon. Related things, like snow, winter sports, etc. are also welcome.
[This forum post](http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=3403490#post3403490) has a list of about 100 anime with Christmas themed episodes from over 2 years ago. I don't have a more complete list, but it should at least convince you that this is very common in anime and hopefully give you ideas for questions.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_8: ***Flavours:*** Powers or Super-human abilities
***Description:*** Ask about how why the Kyuubi has so much Chakara, How laser eyes work, How do these shounen characters keep getting back up?!
A lot of questions here seem to be somewhat shounen-y, so a topic like this might encourage more users to participate.
*Note: I guess this is somewhat like @Krazer 's answer for mech, but it's a bit more specific*
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_8: ***Flavours:*** "Partners" or "Duos"
***Description:*** Questions about couples, heroes and sidekicks, Siblings, Companions... Any group of two anime characters.
We haven't had that many questions about character's relationships (that I could see), might draw some good ones out.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: **Flavors:** Imoutos (little sisters) and/or Tsundere characters
**Description:** Two of the most common moe archetypes. Tsundere gained a lot of popularity last decade, and are still going strong today. Little sisters aren't new, but in the past few years there have been a large number of shows focused on younger sisters (a so-called "imouto boom"). Plus, little sisters have existed since the beginning of time, so there are plenty of examples to work with even if you aren't following recent anime.
Given that there are plenty of tsundere imoutos, it makes sense to put them together.
Upvotes: 3 |
2013/04/30 | 5,828 | 16,477 | <issue_start>username_0: We've been promoting an event that takes place every Saturday: "**Flavor Day**".
In each Flavor Day, one or two flavors are picked and questions about them are encouraged (for further info and suggestions for flavors you'd like to see featured, see [this post](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/537/what-flavors-would-you-like-to-see-for-our-weekly-flavor-days)).
This post's purpose is to keep track of the questions asked each week under each "flavor".
**Each answer left here will correspond to a Flavor Day**, meaning there will be one answer per week.
Use this template for each week:
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**Flavors**: "Games" and "Sports"
**Date**: May 4, 2013
* [**Is Subaru ever caught in the vault?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3657/is-subaru-ever-caught-in-the-vault)
* [**Is there a difference between BFB and Basquash?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3658/is-there-a-difference-between-bfb-and-basquash)
* [**What prizes are awarded during the Daihasei Festival?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3659/what-prizes-are-awarded-during-the-daihasei-festival)
* [**Why did the Slam Dunk anime stop without animating the Interhigh tournament?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3665/why-did-the-slam-dunk-anime-stop-without-animating-the-interhigh-tournament)
* [**What ruleset is used for the Prefecture and National tournaments?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3663/what-ruleset-is-used-for-the-prefecture-and-national-tournaments)
* [**How does Faye actually gamble away all of her money?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3667/how-does-faye-actually-gamble-away-all-of-her-money)
* [**Who are the members of the Lyacons?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3662/who-are-the-members-of-the-lyacons)
* [**What game are António, Carlos and Jobim playing?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3669/what-game-are-antonio-carlos-and-jobim-playing)
* [**What caused the shift in the world after the climax of the show?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3670/what-caused-the-shift-in-the-world-after-the-climax-of-the-show)
* [**What is happening in the “Depth of Field” specials?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3673/what-is-happening-in-the-depth-of-field-specials)
* [**Does Kanon enjoy figure skating?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3674/does-kanon-enjoy-figure-skating)
* [**What is the card game the characters play?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3675/what-is-the-card-game-the-characters-play)
**Total**: 12 questions
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_1: **Flavor Day 2**
**Flavors**: "Small" and "Cute"
**Date**: April 27, 2013
* [**When does Hina learn that her parents died?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3591/when-does-hina-learn-that-her-parents-died)
* [**When does Kud Wafter fit into the story?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3590/when-does-kud-wafter-fit-into-the-story)
* [**Why is Ana embarrassed by her surname?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3589/why-is-ana-embarrassed-by-her-surname)
* [**When do succubi mature?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3588/when-do-succubi-mature)
* [**How do Konoha's powers work?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3586/how-do-konohas-powers-work)
* [**Does Nao ever realize that Pastel Ink is Ink?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3584/does-nao-ever-realize-that-pastel-ink-is-ink)
* [**When do the Kodomo no Jikan OVA side stories take place?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3582/when-do-the-kodomo-no-jikan-ova-side-stories-take-place)
* [**Is Ika Musume the only humanoid squid creature?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3580/is-ika-musume-the-only-humanoid-squid-creature)
* [**What is the chibi-esque gathering at the end of each episode?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3579/what-is-the-chibi-esque-gathering-at-the-end-of-each-episode)
* [**What game is Subaru playing with the girls?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3578/what-game-is-subaru-playing-with-the-girls)
* [**Is Kamineko a jerk?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3566/is-kamineko-a-jerk)
* [**What kind of creature is Chiyo-chichi?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3567/what-kind-of-creature-is-chiyo-chichi)
* [**What is the intended purpose of Haro?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3565/what-is-the-intended-purpose-of-haro)
* [**What is the fate of Densuke at the end of the last episode?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3563/what-is-the-fate-of-densuke-at-the-end-of-the-last-episode)
* [**How much does the anime differ from the light novels?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3559/how-much-does-the-anime-differ-from-the-light-novels)
* [**Who is the boy in the coffin in the last episode (of the Gemini of the Meteor)?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3562/who-is-the-boy-in-the-coffin-in-the-last-episode-of-the-gemini-of-the-meteor)
* [**What are all of Rin's cats that have names?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3557/what-are-all-of-rins-cats-that-have-names)
* [**What happened to Aura between the events of G.U. and the movie?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3556/what-happened-to-aura-between-the-events-of-g-u-and-the-movie)
* [**What is the significance of the title “Ro-Kyu-Bu!”?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3555/what-is-the-significance-of-the-title-ro-kyu-bu)
* [**Does the “flower's name” myth have a real-world basis?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3524/does-the-flowers-name-myth-have-a-real-world-basis)
* [**What causes the robots to develop sentience?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3548/what-causes-the-robots-to-develop-sentience)
**Total**: 21 questions
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_1: **Flavor Day 1**
**Flavor**: "Cats" (and cat-related stuff)
**Date**: April 20, 2013
* [**Was Chiyo's real father ever shown?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3473/was-chiyos-real-father-ever-shown)
* [**Is “The Melancholy of Momoneko-sama” based on any legends?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3472/is-the-melancholy-of-momoneko-sama-based-on-any-legends)
* [**What species is Pannya?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3471/what-species-is-pannya)
* [**Why is Train Heartnet called Black Cat?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3468/why-is-train-heartnet-called-black-cat)
* [**Were Luna and Artemis the only (sentient) cats in Sailor Moon?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3466/were-luna-and-artemis-the-only-sentient-cats-in-sailor-moon)
* [**What is the name of Misaka 10032's cat?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3462/what-is-the-name-of-misaka-10032s-cat)
* [**Why is Nyanko-sensei a round, chubby cat?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3459/why-is-nyanko-sensei-a-round-chubby-cat)
* [**What is the significance of the black cat?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3458/what-is-the-significance-of-the-black-cat)
* [**What animals and confections are each of the characters?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3457/what-animals-and-confections-are-each-of-the-characters)
* [**How can Sakamoto talk?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3454/how-can-sakamoto-talk)
* [**Why is Poyo completely round?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3453/why-is-poyo-completely-round)
* [**How many siblings does Tonnura have?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3452/how-many-siblings-does-tonnura-have)
**Total**: 12 questions
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_1: **Flavor Day 4**
**Flavor**: "Music" (including OP and ED sequences)
**Date**: May 11, 2013
* [**How are the themes and songs picked for a particular series?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3744/how-are-the-themes-and-songs-picked-for-a-particular-series)
* [**How does Jigglypuff not fall asleep from it's own song?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3743/how-does-jigglypuff-not-fall-asleep-from-its-own-song)
* [**Is there any meaning to the first Hatsuyuki Sakura OP “freak of nature: start”?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3745/is-there-any-meaning-to-the-first-hatsuyuki-sakura-op-freak-of-nature-start)
* [**Can Chiaki play any instruments besides violin and piano?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3746/can-chiaki-play-any-instruments-besides-violin-and-piano)
* [**What's the deal with all the crabs in the Aiura OP?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3749/whats-the-deal-with-all-the-crabs-in-the-aiura-op)
* [**Are there bands specifically dedicated to anime?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3750/are-there-bands-specifically-dedicated-to-anime)
* [**What is the significance of the “A in C major” note the occurs whenever there is a strange event in The World?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3753/why-does-the-a-in-c-major-tone-plays-whenever-a-strange-event-occurs-in-the-wo)
* [**At the end of the last episode, does everyone retain their old memories?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3755/at-the-end-of-the-last-episode-does-everyone-retain-their-old-memories)
* [**Are the members of Beck based on real life musicians?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3751/are-the-members-of-beck-based-on-real-life-musicians)
* [**Was there ever an a cappella version of Nemurihime released?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3752/was-there-ever-an-a-cappella-version-of-nemurihime-released)
* [**What pieces were adapted for the soundtrack of G-senjou no Maou?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3754/what-pieces-were-adapted-for-the-soundtrack-of-g-senjou-no-maou)
* [**Vocaloid in anime soundtracks**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3760/vocaloid-in-anime-soundtracks)
* [**List of anime with correct animation of the characters playing musical instrument**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3758/list-of-anime-with-correct-animation-of-the-characters-playing-musical-instrumen)
**Total**: 13 questions
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_1: **Flavor Day 5**
**Flavor**: "80-90s Classics"
**Date**: April 18, 2013
* [**What happened to the last two Bastard!! OVAs?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3806/what-happened-to-the-last-two-bastard-ovas)
* [**Why were most of the players' names changed in the dubs?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3810/why-were-most-of-the-players-names-changed-in-the-dubs)
* [**What is the OVA boom?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3811/what-is-the-ova-boom)
* [**What are the notable differences between Hunter x Hunter in 1999 vs 2011?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3812/what-are-the-notable-differences-between-hunter-x-hunter-in-1999-vs-2011)
* [**Why does Tetsuo say “I am Tetsuo” at the end of Akira?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3813/why-does-tetsuo-say-i-am-tetsuo-at-the-end-of-akira)
* [**Is Akira the only anime produced in 24fps?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3814/is-akira-the-only-anime-produced-in-24fps)
* [**Why is the name “Harkonnen” used on Seras' cannon in Hellsing?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3815/why-is-the-name-harkonnen-used-on-seras-cannon-in-hellsing)
* [**What is Lupin III's nationality?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3816/what-is-lupin-iiis-nationality)
* [**Why is Gally's name localized as Alita?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3817/why-is-gallys-name-localized-as-alita)
* [**Was “Snow Rondo” all a dream or was there something more to it?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3819/was-snow-rondo-all-a-dream-or-was-there-something-more-to-it)
* [**What factors contributed the “golden age” of anime?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3822/what-factors-contributed-the-golden-age-of-anime)
* [**What are the “tentacles” coming out of people's heads?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3824/what-are-the-tentacles-coming-out-of-peoples-heads)
* [**Why does Mika go insane?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3827/why-does-mika-go-insane)
* [**What was the first mecha anime/manga to feature combining to form a super robot?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3828/what-was-the-first-mecha-anime-manga-to-feature-combining-to-form-a-super-robot)
* [**How did the Chris gain the power of Garzey's Wing?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3831/how-did-the-chris-gain-the-power-of-garzeys-wing)
* [**Where does the Future Boy Conan movie fit in?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3829/where-does-the-future-boy-conan-movie-fit-in)
* [**Where did the other survivors come from?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3830/where-did-the-other-survivors-come-from)
* [**Protagonist saves the world by killing monsters by transforming into different mecha using disks**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3834/protagonist-saves-the-world-by-killing-monsters-by-transforming-into-different-m)
**Total**: 18 questions
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_1: **Flavor Day 6**
**Flavor**: "Swimming" and "Beaches"
**Date**: April 25, 2013
* [**How was the Dai-Gurren improved in episode 12?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3902/how-was-the-dai-gurren-improved-in-episode-12)
* [**Why are there holes in the ocean?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3905/why-are-there-holes-in-the-ocean)
* [**What is the purpose of the watermelon in the ritual at the beach?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3904/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-watermelon-in-the-ritual-at-the-beach)
* [**Why did Yukari's father wander off on his honeymoon?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3908/why-did-yukaris-father-wander-off-on-his-honeymoon)
* [**What is the actual dialog for this Death Note swimming meme?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3909/what-is-the-actual-dialog-for-this-death-note-swimming-meme)
* [**Why didn't Yokodera send Azuki Azusa back to Okinawa?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3912/why-didnt-yokodera-send-azuki-azusa-back-to-okinawa)
* [**What is the name of the name tag found on certain swimsuits?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3913/what-is-the-name-of-the-name-tag-found-on-certain-swimsuits)
**Total**: 7 questions
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_1: **Flavor Day 7**
**Flavor**: "Shoujo" and/or "Romance"
**Date**: June 1, 2013
* [**Why does Li hate Mizuki?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3986/why-does-li-hate-mizuki)
* [**How many endings are there in the School Days Visual Novel?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3987/how-many-endings-are-there-in-the-school-days-visual-novel)
* [**Is there any more meaning to Ren's name?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3988/is-there-any-more-meaning-to-rens-name)
* [**How closely does the La Corda d'Oro manga follow the game?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3990/how-closely-does-the-la-corda-doro-manga-follow-the-game)
* [**Why does Usui wear glasses at home?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3992/why-does-usui-wear-glasses-at-home)
* [**What is the text before the OP in episode 9 talking about?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3994/what-is-the-text-before-the-op-in-episode-9-talking-about)
**Total**: 6 questions
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_1: **Flavor Day 8**
**Flavors**: "Parodies" and "Cross-references"
**Date**: June 15, 2013
* [**What is the relation between the flowers and the heroines in ED sequence of Photokano?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4132/what-is-the-relation-between-the-flowers-and-the-heroines-in-ed-sequence-of-phot)
* [**What are all the cross-references in Binbo Gami Ga?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4129/what-are-all-the-cross-references-in-binbo-gami-ga)
* [**Who are these characters referenced in chapter 4 of Spotted Flower?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4127/who-are-these-characters-referenced-in-chapter-4-of-spotted-flower)
Upvotes: 0 |
2013/05/09 | 438 | 1,752 | <issue_start>username_0: The standard on all SE sites, unless they request otherwise, is that [single-use tags are deleted after 6 months](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/48417/184716). There are some sites that have this disabled, particularly those which tend to have a lot of low-use tags.
That's exactly the category we fall in to, with over half of our titles as single-use. These aren't necessarily bad tags; most are about a particular series, and there's not much else they could be tagged with besides the series tag. Those tags will get deleted, and the questions will become tagged as [untagged](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/untagged "show questions tagged 'untagged'") in most cases.
**Should we keep this auto-deletion script on, or request for it to be disabled on our site?**
**Note**: This question is intended as a poll; please upvote the answer you agree with, but do not downvote the other one. If you have more to add to the discussion, feel free to write your own answer.<issue_comment>username_1: **We should request for the script to be disabled.**
This will prevent lots of correct tags from being deleted, but we'll need to actively police our tag list to make sure that invalid tags don't catch on and delete new ones which are clearly bad tags.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_1: **We should keep the script enabled.**
This will delete some bad tags after 6 months of disuse, but we'll need to regularly re-edit the good tags (including series tags) back on to questions which become untagged.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Agreed - it's disabled here.
As usual, keep an eye on [the list of new tags](https://anime.stackexchange.com/tags?tab=new) for crap.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer] |
2013/05/16 | 2,716 | 10,462 | <issue_start>username_0: I'd like to hear what kind of contents users of the community like to hear/read more about.
Perhaps some of them are too hard or questions about new aired in Japan anime are too niche. Should focus on recently premiered anime in the US and EU (including newly domestically subbed/dubbed content).
What do *you,* the users of the site, want to see more of? Certain types of questions about the industry? More an otaku subculture? Cats? Funny jokes?
Are there any events that you would like to see in the future? Perhaps an anime/manga watch/read (sort of like a book/movie club) or and discussion session every week in chat?
Is there something on the site you're unsure about, feel that is unclear, or unsatisfied with? Feel free to give us feedback of how we can improve.
We'll try to accommodate where we can.<issue_comment>username_1: Personally, I think we should be aiming for *more* questions about currently airing shows in Japan, not fewer. My reasoning is as follows.
Our biggest goal right now, in my view, should be to attract more experts (which for the moment I'm taking to mean people who have fairly broad knowledge of a large number of series). These are the sorts of people who can help us get more answers on questions, get questions off the unanswered tab, and are likely to be very valuable contributors overall. We have a serious problem at the upper end, that almost all of our top users have been here since private beta. Among all users with 2k rep or more, the latest account creation date is December 26th 2012, which is just 2 weeks after we started in private beta and 1 week after public beta began. Going down to 1k rep, there's one user from February, but everyone else has been here a while. That will be a serious impediment to growth as we go forward.
This indicates to me one of two things: Either we aren't reaching the people who know a lot about a lot of anime series, or we are reaching them but they aren't staying around (at least not for very long). To get people to join and stick around, or even to find us, we need to be showing up on the things they're searching for and have lots of content that they find interesting. For experts, I believe (though I do not have strong evidence for this) that this is mostly currently airing shows. If we focus on things which recently premiered in English-speaking countries, this might increase our overall traffic, but the majority of those hits would be from casual viewers, not experts. It isn't particularly a problem to get hits from casual anime fans, but they aren't the type of fans we should be targeting. On that basis, I think we should try to get more questions about currently airing things in Japan and other popular things among hardcore fans rather than casual fans.
It isn't enough to just ask the questions, though. We also need to get answers to them. If we're using these as seeding questions, we need someone to post an answer. It might be a good idea to coordinate in chat or on meta at the beginning of each season a couple of shows which we think we have strong experts in, i.e. people who have read the manga or have been following the series for a long time or something to that effect. Otherwise the questions will probably just go unanswered for a long time, which defeats the purpose.
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**EDIT**: In light of my recent answer at [What can we do to get more answers?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/571/24), I'd like to clarify that I don't think that answer and this answer contradict each other. We can simultaneously move away from particularly niche content and ask questions which are more interesting to experts. It's a hard balance to strike, but we need to focus on currently airing popular series and long term popular series which appeal to broad audiences. This means looking at places like [MAL's list of popular anime](http://myanimelist.net/topanime.php?type=bypopularity) and finding cases of popular anime which could get more questions while still being answerable by our users here. There's a lot of room between series like Naruto/Bleach and some of the niche stuff which gets asked, and a lot of that represents areas where we are prepared to answer questions but aren't getting as many as we could be.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: First: I agree with Logan's answer quite a lot. He addresses lots of things that are crucial points of weakness in our site.
That aside, I think we're losing a type of question that we once had many questions from, and there is a gold mine of questions that we can draw from that type. The type is "specific questions about events or characters in a single anime".
I say this because of a comparison I did between [SciFi's homepage](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/) and [our own](https://anime.stackexchange.com/). (*If you want to see some SciFi examples of this category: [(1)](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/q/35677/13099) [(2)](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/q/1609/13099) [(3)](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/q/35017/13099) [(4)](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/q/34439/13099)*)
This type of question composes around half of our most upvoted\* questions:
* [Do people in the anime or manga actually eat Pokemon?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/836/274)
* [The treasure in One Piece is at the end of the grand line. But isn't that the same as the beginning?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/1/274)
* [Why is Edward Newgate called Whitebeard?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2551/274)
* [What happens when Naruto is talking to the Kyuubi?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/664/274)
It seems, though, like these types of questions are seen little anymore. Of the 48 questions on SciFi's homepage, 28 are story-specific questions (not including closed ones, even). We barely have half that many; we have many more about things such as identification requests, or involving multiple anime, or are about anime itself. These questions are great, and are on-topic, but are not likely to draw a lot of answers or intrigue from people who find or participate in our site.
So, here's my suggestion:
* **Encourage** users to ask (and possibly seed?) questions that pertain to the specifics of anime that they frequent, whether this be *Naruto*, *Bleach*, *Poyopoyo Kansatsu Nikki*, or whatever.
* **Do not discourage** other questions from being asked, of course. As I said above, they are valid and on-topic. We just want to encourage other questions, too.
\* - A somewhat distorted measure of popularity, but the best I can do without dedicating hours to browsing all questions.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: >
> Perhaps some of them are too hard or questions about new aired in Japan anime are too niche.
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Answering niche questions may do the opposite. If we're looking for more experts (as Logan mentioned), they may be impressed with the answers and hang around for a while.
I know I joined because I saw some interesting questions and thought I could look a little deeper into some of my favorite series and see if anyone had any more info on them.
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> What do you, the users of the site, want to see more of? Certain types of questions about the industry? More an otaku subculture? Cats? Funny jokes?
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I don't know about the users as a whole, but I'm a user too, and I'd prefer if the site veered away from the otaku scene (although, not to dismiss it) and stuck to covering anime/manga first. I feel questions like [Is the term Otaku derogatory?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3410/is-the-term-otaku-derogatory) and [Do otaku tend to be bullied?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2953/do-otaku-tend-to-be-bullied) are not really the topic at hand
Similarly to Eric, I think that series specific questions are more desirable than generic question. Questions such as [What differentiates anime from regular cartoons?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/69/what-differentiates-anime-from-regular-cartoons) are great, but it doesn't differenciate us from all the other sites out there that discuss the topic.
Whereas questions like [Why does Yuuki's room change?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2609/why-does-yuukis-room-change) aren't going to be as readily available. This is what makes StackExchange's answers valuable and draws people in.
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> Are there any events that you would like to see in the future? Perhaps an anime/manga watch/read (sort of like a book/movie club) or and discussion session every week in chat?
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I think the flavour of the week questions are good for garnering some interesting questions that people mightn't usually have asked and though some weeks will have less questions that others, we should stick with it.
Personally I'd be somewhat up for a discussion group. There'd have to be a solid base of people doing it or it might just slowly fade off.
***TL;DR*** - I think niche questions are a good thing and should be encouraged
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: I agree with a lot of what Eric said. Looking around the front page every day, I've been finding fewer and fewer questions about shows that I watch such as Naruto and Bleach. I feel like part of the reason for this is that there has been some amount of push to have a more diverse question base. The problem with this is that this leaves people who don't read/watch the series that the more eclectic questions are being asked about with nothing to answer.
I think trying to go back to having more questions about shows like Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, and other very popular shows might be a good idea. That doesn't mean that people have to only ask about those shows, but anyone who looks at are site who only watches the popular shows will likely not stay if none of those series show up on the first page or so.
One area where I feel we are generally lacking (and this may contradict slightly with the previous part of my answer) is in series that aren't shonen. Most of the series asked about are shonen, with a little seinen and even less shoujo or josei. I don't know how to fix this, because presumably most of the people on the site watch and read mostly shonen, but I feel like anyone who reads/watches primarily shoujo won't want to join the site because they won't have anything to answer and won't feel like they'll have answerers for their questions.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/05/18 | 3,101 | 11,411 | <issue_start>username_0: We all love [Anime & Manga Stack Exchange](http://anime.stackexchange.com), but there is a whole world of people out there who need answers to their questions and don't even know that this site exists. When they arrive from Google, what will their first impression be? Let's try to look at this site through the eyes of someone who's never seen it before, and see how we stack up against the rest of the 'Net.
The [Site Self-Evaluation review queue](https://anime.stackexchange.com/review/site-eval) is open and populated with 10 questions that were asked and answered in the last quarter. Run a few Google searches to see how easy they are to find and compare the answers we have with the information available on other sites.
Rating the questions is only a part of the puzzle, though. Do you see a pattern of questions that should have been closed but are not? Questions or answers that could use an edit? Anything that's going really well? **Post an answer below to share your thoughts** and discuss these questions and the site's health with your fellow users!<issue_comment>username_1: Here's my thoughts on the questions.
[**What is the “foreign” language that is used in Suisei no Gargantia?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3418/24) - Excellent
This question only has one answer, but it is well-written. The page shows up near the top of a search for "Suisei no Gargantia language" which was already a common enough search term for Google to autocomplete to it. The pages above it don't have anywhere near the same level of detail. The answer is also not just copied from an external source, though it includes several external sources for further verification.
[**Why did Kabuto heal Hinata?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3244/24) - Satisfactory
This seems to be a common question, as I found multiple other sites with essentially the same question. We don't come up particularly high on a search for the question title, though we're still on the first page and the question has a good number of hits. The answer here is higher quality than the other sites in my opinion, but it still comes down to speculation to some degree. This sort of question could probably get multiple answers with different perspectives, but it only has one. All together, this could definitely be improved on, but it doesn't have any serious problems.
[**Why does Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle use the same characters as Card Captor Sakura?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2988/24) - Satisfactory
The answers on this question are correct and well-written, but the question is almost entirely unsearchable as-is. Because of this, I almost marked the question as 'Needs Improvement'. The title is too specific and won't bring in any search traffic. The question didn't come up in any of the searches I performed. Longer titles need to match search criteria more closely to come up highly in results, and this isn't matching anyone's searches. A better title would be something to the effect of "What is the connection between Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle and Card Captor Sakura?" though it would likely require rewording the existing question and answers slightly.
[**How can the man in the back see?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3328/24) - Satisfactory
This question has a lot of room for improvement. It's not going to bring in any search traffic as it is right now. The answer isn't really an answer either; it's just a note that the same character appears elsewhere. A complete answer would be an improvement. Despite these issues, I still rated the question as satisfactory, simply because I don't see any way to improve it as it is right now. The title isn't going to be searchable unless we can find the character's name. As for the answer, this is quite possibly a case where no satisfactory answer exists. Rating this as "Needs Work" would entail that I have suggestions for how to improve it, which I do not.
[**What is the origin of the face fault?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3130/24) - Needs Improvement
This is a good question, and we come up highly in the search results, and has a lot of traffic, but there's only one answer, which I don't consider satisfactory. It's essentially just a quote of a single other source, and one which comes before us in a search for "face fault origin" at that. Unfortunately, despite a bounty, this question failed to attract any higher quality answers, but it could desperately use some. As a note, this trope is not exclusive to anime, though it is particularly common in anime, so it's a bit questionable whether it really belongs on this site in my opinion.
[**What are the types of jutsus that exist in Naruto?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3040/24) - Satisfactory
This is a list question, and the list is rather long, but I think it's okay. We're nowhere near the top of a search for "Naruto types of jutsu" which was a Google autocomplete result. The content here is good, and of interest to a lot of people, but the question only has 75 views. The top answer starting with a disclaimer isn't really great either. However, the content here is pretty good; it's just already been listed elsewhere on higher traffic sites which are more natural places for it. With that in mind, I don't know how we could improve these, apart from deleting the disclaimer note.
[**What is the significance of anime characters' catch phrases?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3317/24) - Satisfactory
The answer here is high quality. Unfortunately, we aren't getting any traffic from the question. "Anime catchphrases" as a search already has lots of other high-quality sites, and we aren't anywhere near the top. I don't see us getting to the top of that search, at least not unless someone feels like writing a far-more in depth answer. That probably isn't worth it.
[**Why does cutting out part of Orochimaru’s soul cause him to lose the use of his arms?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3296/24) - Satisfactory
This doesn't seem to get much traffic either, and it's hard to search for. A better title might help that. It would also help a lot for a question like this to have images, at least in the answers, so that it's clear to someone like me (who doesn't know much about Naruto) what people are talking about. In my opinion, trying to get this question to bring in lots of traffic is futile, and the answers are good enough as is right now, though there is certainly room for improvement.
[**What did the old man say to the bartender at the end?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3334/24) - Excellent
Despite a bit of a questionable title, we're at the top of a search for "Death Billiards ending". The question has only 128 views, but Death Billiards is a single 25-minute movie, so it's not going to be a huge traffic magnet no matter what. The answer is thorough, though there's still a bit more room for other people to add their own speculation.
[**'Satisfaction Guaranteed' - was anything past volume 7 ever released in English?**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3306/24) - Satisfactory (I accidentally clicked Excellent in review queue)
We come up highly in searches for both "Satisfaction Guaranteed English" (1st relevant result) and "Satisfaction Guaranteed English release" (1st result overall). The answer is also complete and well-written. The only problem is that Satisfaction Guaranteed is a rather niche series. The question only has 42 hits. I have no doubt that people who want to find this information are finding it through us, but there just aren't many people in that category in the first place.
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Overall thoughts:
* We could use more answers per question in almost all cases.
* Titles matter a lot in terms of SEO. A few of the above posts could immediately be improved in terms of traffic if all we changed was the title.
* Despite being very popular, Naruto questions tended to have average levels of traffic or lower. I suspect this is precisely because it's so popular. Most of the natural questions have already been asked and answered elsewhere, and we just aren't likely to beat those sites anytime soon in terms of search results.
* The post on Death Billiards was the 4th highest trafficked of all of the review queue posts, despite being about a fairly niche series. This indicates to me that we can get a lot of traffic through even fairly niche anime if we have high quality content. However, the Satisfaction Guaranteed post, despite also being pretty high quality, didn't generate nearly as many hits, so we need to be posting the same things that people are asking about with regards to these sorts of series.
* In some cases, even when a post has obvious issues (e.g. hard to search for), there is no obvious way to fix them. Unfortunately, the best thing to do in these situations is probably just to ignore them and focus on improving the posts which can be improved easily.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Final Results
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* [What is the significance of anime characters' catch phrases?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3317/what-is-the-significance-of-anime-characters-catch-phrases)
**Net Score: 10** (Excellent: 12, Satisfactory: 9, Needs Improvement: 2)
* [What is the "foreign" language that is used in Suisei no Gargantia?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3418/what-is-the-foreign-language-that-is-used-in-suisei-no-gargantia)
**Net Score: 19** (Excellent: 19, Satisfactory: 3, Needs Improvement: 0)
* [Why does Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle use the same characters as Card Captor Sakura?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2988/why-does-tsubasa-reservoir-chronicle-use-the-same-characters-as-card-captor-saku)
**Net Score: 5** (Excellent: 7, Satisfactory: 12, Needs Improvement: 2)
* [What are the types of jutsus that exist in Naruto?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3040/what-are-the-types-of-jutsus-that-exist-in-naruto)
**Net Score: 2** (Excellent: 5, Satisfactory: 13, Needs Improvement: 3)
* [What is the origin of the face fault?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3130/what-is-the-origin-of-the-face-fault)
**Net Score: 2** (Excellent: 7, Satisfactory: 9, Needs Improvement: 5)
* [How can the man in the back see?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3328/how-can-the-man-in-the-back-see)
**Net Score: 0** (Excellent: 3, Satisfactory: 15, Needs Improvement: 3)
* [Why does cutting out part of Orochimaru’s soul cause him to lose the use of his arms?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3296/why-does-cutting-out-part-of-orochimarus-soul-cause-him-to-lose-the-use-of-his)
**Net Score: 1** (Excellent: 3, Satisfactory: 15, Needs Improvement: 2)
* [Was anything past volume 7 ever released in English?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3306/satisfaction-guaranteed-was-anything-past-volume-7-ever-released-in-english)
**Net Score: 5** (Excellent: 7, Satisfactory: 11, Needs Improvement: 2)
* [What did the old man say to the bartender at the end?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3334/what-did-the-old-man-say-to-the-bartender-at-the-end)
**Net Score: 14** (Excellent: 14, Satisfactory: 6, Needs Improvement: 0)
* [Why did Kabuto heal Hinata?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3244/why-did-kabuto-heal-hinata)
**Net Score: 3** (Excellent: 3, Satisfactory: 16, Needs Improvement: 0)
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer] |
2013/05/22 | 542 | 2,088 | <issue_start>username_0: Ah, the old topic again. First, [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") and [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") were forbidden, then they were [allowed again](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/20/122). I think that over more and more questions, different things came up, whether such tags should be used, or not. Currently, the tags [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") and [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") aren't used. Should [visual-novel](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/visual-novel "show questions tagged 'visual-novel'") be used? Or should questions like [this](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3862/122) be edited?<issue_comment>username_1: Currently, the tags [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") and [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") are blacklisted. They were blacklisted because they are meta-tags. So it's not really a case of "they aren't used", but rather a case of "they **can't** be used".
Regarding the [visual-novel](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/visual-novel "show questions tagged 'visual-novel'") tag, I think they should not be allowed either, since they are as much of a meta-tag as the other two.
Either that, or they should all be allowed. But **I think blacklisting is the way to go**.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: There wasn't any opposition voiced to deleting the tag, so I removed it from the 8 questions which had it. The tag itself will disappear in the near future since there aren't any questions tagged with it anymore.
If the tag continues to be recreated and used in the future, it might be worth blacklisting, but I don't think it's a big enough problem right now to necessitate it.
Upvotes: 1 |
2013/05/22 | 839 | 3,325 | <issue_start>username_0: Currently, we have [anime-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-history "show questions tagged 'anime-history'"), [manga-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-history "show questions tagged 'manga-history'"), and [game-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/game-history "show questions tagged 'game-history'") on the main site, with 17, 3, and 1 questions, respectively. We've also had other history tags at times, such as [cosplay-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/cosplay-history "show questions tagged 'cosplay-history'") on [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2790/who-was-the-first-cosplayer), which is now tagged (somewhat incorrectly) as [anime-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-history "show questions tagged 'anime-history'"). In principle, we could also get [light-novel-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/light-novel-history "show questions tagged 'light-novel-history'"), [visual-novel-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/visual-novel-history "show questions tagged 'visual-novel-history'"), [voice-acting-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/voice-acting-history "show questions tagged 'voice-acting-history'"), and presumably others.
Is there a benefit to having separate tags for these? I can see why [anime-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-production "show questions tagged 'anime-production'") and [manga-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-production "show questions tagged 'manga-production'") would require somewhat different knowledge to answer in, but in the case of history I think the same people would tend to be experts on both, and there's little benefit to splitting them up.
As such, I propose merging these three tags into one [history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/history "show questions tagged 'history'") tag which covers all questions about history within the context of anime and manga. [anime-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-history "show questions tagged 'anime-history'") and [manga-history](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-history "show questions tagged 'manga-history'") could be made synonyms of this so that newcomers have an easier time finding this tag.<issue_comment>username_1: I agree, and looks like the community agrees on it too. If no objection is raised in say, 2 days, I'll merge the tags and update here.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I think it might be good for browsing/searching. Since [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") and [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") are banned, I imagine these multiple history tags would add another level to the categorization. However, I am not sure whether it is useful in long term.
I don't think there is any harm leaving it there for a while. Tag merging can be done quickly, but it is harder to separate them out later. For favorite (following) purpose, people can use `*history` to follow all history tags.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/06/01 | 1,635 | 6,702 | <issue_start>username_0: In light of [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3982/63), I'd like to ask what the community feels about questions similar to the aforementioned, ones related to where to buy, stream, anime or manga media or such related merchandise (such as character goods or music).
It's a given many people are not well-versed in being able to find the best places to watch their favorite anime (legally) or the best place to buy that limited edition figure or CD of featuring their favorite character or show. I'd like to open the site up to questions such as these, if we can make sure the answers draw from legal sources.
For an example, answers to questions related to where to watch/read anime/manga should only list legally available sources available either generally or within the asker's respective countries. Shopping advice and/or requests on where to download content from questionable sources will remain prohibited.
What do think? Should anything be added in terms of what should be allow or disallowed content-wise or scope-wise?<issue_comment>username_1: **I think we should allow these questions (so long as they pertain to anime).**
As far as I can tell, there are no legal issues involved as long as we restrict to legal releases. There's a bit of grey area as to what is a legal release in some countries, but it's pretty clear that in practice this means that *licensed releases are acceptable, while fansubs aren't.*
Since there's no legal issues, assuming the question asked is answerable (like the one linked above) the only arguments that I can see against such a question are that they are too localized and/or are typically too easy to answer. The latter isn't really true; wading through the difficult licensing issues, incomplete news articles, and various companies' websites is a pretty daunting task. By comparison, oftentimes an expert will know the answer immediately. If anime licensing were documented uniformly and well on Wikipedia or ANN, there might be a good argument for such questions being too basic, but the documentation there can out-of-date, incomplete, or altogether wrong.
As for the question of whether these questions are too localized, consider that we are allowing [merchandise](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/merchandise "show questions tagged 'merchandise'") questions, i.e. questions about promotional materials released in conjunction with an anime. My interpretation of [this question](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/484/24) is that the community consensus is to allow such merchandise questions, though I suppose that's still up for some debate. We've even allowed cases where the merchandise in question was released in countries other than Japan (see e.g. [What are the 2003 Wendy's Promotional Pokémon Toys?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3429/24)). If those sorts of questions are on topic, it seems like questions about releases of the actual anime should be at least as acceptable, if not more.
It might be worth creating a tag for all questions asking about home releases of an anime if this is something that a lot of people find uninteresting. [merchandise](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/merchandise "show questions tagged 'merchandise'") could probably be used for this, though a different tag might be warranted as well since these questions require different knowledge to answer than most [merchandise](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/merchandise "show questions tagged 'merchandise'") questions.
It's worth noting that we have precedent for allowing such questions. Here are four open questions which are in the same vein as the linked question, asking about releases of anime/manga. If we were to ban such questions, all of these would need to be closed:
* [Why weren't Kingdom Heart volumes released regularly?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/112/24)
* [Was the ufotable Touhou anime ever released?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/56/24)
* [Was anything past volume 7 ever released in English?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3306/24)
* [Is Guilty Crown on DVD in the USA, UK, or Australia?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3727/24)
For the question regarding Disney releases of Ghibli movies, the current phrasing is a bit non-constructive even though the underlying question (Is there any digital distribution of Ghibli films through Disney?) is fine. It could be improved easily by making the question more clear and objective. The title should also probably be clarified. This is all pretty standard cleanup, and assuming no one else does it in the meantime I'll try to do it soon, though I don't think it's strictly necessary here.
However, of the example questions listed in the OP, I don't think questions about the "best place to buy that limited edition figure or CD of featuring their favorite character or show" should be allowed here. These are shopping questions, and there are [many problems](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/11/qa-is-hard-lets-go-shopping/) associated to them. The "best place to buy" is always going to be a subjective question. There are plenty of questions about anime figures and other merchandise which I think would be acceptable, but anything asking us to compare products or vendors isn't constructive.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: One can argue that these are too localized:
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> This question is unlikely to help any future visitors; **it is only
> relevant to a small geographic area**, a specific moment in time, or an
> extraordinarily narrow situation that is **not generally applicable to
> the worldwide audience of the internet**. For help making this question
> more broadly applicable, see the FAQ.
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A question on where to buy certain manga/anime/franchise, will usually only apply to a certain city/town in a certain state/country.
An answer applicable to US folks will not apply to me, who live in Israel. Furthermore, an answer applicable to New York folks, won't necessarily apply to folks from Texas, etc.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Questions on whether something has been licensed in a country (and by whom) are, IMO, acceptable. Questions on *who* is streaming a digital copy of a title are, IMO, not: too localised, unhelpful to most, and very likely to go out of date quickly. Answers to such questions will often result in the answerer's favourite service, and therefore, opinion.
This question in particular also appears to assume that everybody here is (presumably) in the US or that the default location for questions is the US.
-1, -1, -1. Chat is a better fit for such matters.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/06/06 | 2,716 | 8,946 | <issue_start>username_0: The summer season of anime starts soon (most premiers are in July). Currently airing series tend to generate a lot of interest and consequently a lot of traffic, so it would be good if we could get some high-quality questions about them. However, we also need those questions to get answered well, which requires that we have members here who are knowledgeable about such series.
With that in mind, I had the idea of informally polling here on meta to get a sense of what series are good fits for our community. This isn't intended to be used for any official business, but it will help some people (like me) decide what series are good to ask about. Of course, you're welcome to ask about a series even if it isn't here.
**Factoring in expected popularity and our community's strengths, what series from summer 2013 would make good material to ask about?**
For simplicity, let's keep it to one anime per answer. Upvote if you think it's a good choice to ask about. Feel free to leave a comment if you're planning on watching that series, or if you consider yourself especially knowledgeable about it (e.g. you've read the manga). I'm posting this rather early so that there's plenty of time for people to check out the source material, previous seasons, and whatever promotional videos have been released before the season stars.
Click the image below to see the Neregate chart of all anime premiering in summer 2013. As a warning, the chart is large. *(Users with lower bandwidth or not wanting to wait for the image to load can view a textual version [here](http://pastebin.com/SfLyFaR5).)*
[](http://i5.minus.com/iCEio4Fkz7APE.png)<issue_comment>username_1: **Monogatari Series Second Season**
This is the continuation of the popular series of NisiOisiN novels beginning with Bakemonogatari. It's a very popular series, and hence likely to attract lots of visitors. It also is at times fairly confusing, with a good deal of symbolism and artistic liberties, so there's plenty to ask about. Also, including myself, we have at least a couple of users who have read some of the light novels.
[Click here for the PV](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxCqk3E4QcY)
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: **Code Geass Gaiden: Bōkoku no Akito**
This is an OVA spin-off of Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion set on the European warfront. Code Geass is fairly popular and can be confusing, so this might bring in some users.
[Here is the ANN description of the announcement.](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-22/code-geass-gaiden-bokoku-no-akito-project-announced)
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: **Ro-Kyu-Bu! SS**
This is a second season of the series [*Ro-Kyu-Bu!*](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ro-Kyu-Bu!), a reasonably popular basketball-themed anime. It is a bit esoteric (in terms of its target audience being a bit narrow), but I think it still has the potential to bring in some users. There is also [an OVA](http://myanimelist.net/anime/15807/Ro-Kyu-Bu!:_Tomoka_no_Ichigo_Sundae) due out on June 20.
[Brief ANN announcement](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-20/ro-kyu-bu-anime-gets-2nd-season)
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: **<NAME>**
This series is based off of a game which has a ginormous English fanbase, mostly thanks to a playthrough thread on SA I believe. I expect that the anime will experience decent popularity since fans who don't know Japanese can experience the story "first hand" for the first time.
I don't know too much about the series, but it seems to have a good amount of characters and a complex (or at least more complex than most anime lately...) plot, so it should be full of questions. We could also get new members who have read the playthrough and can answer these questions.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: **<NAME>**
This franchise is already pretty popular; its previous seasons are even licensed in the US. However, it's been **7 years** since since the previous season, so I'm sure there are people who have forgotten details about the story that the new series may rely on. Additionally, new questions about past seasons' events may arise due to new information presented in the current season.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: Can a noob add her 2 cents? I vouch for **Gatchaman Crowds**. It's relationship to the original Gatchaman series (including Gatchaman II and Fighter) are going to raise questions.
Also Tatsunoko has been known to put in cameo appearances of characters from other series. So we can expect some "which series is being referenced here" type questions.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_6: This is a graph showing how Winter anime are received by English-speaking communities, ordered by studio. Any slice is the sum of all MAL, AnimePlanet and ANN members who watched one or more episodes of the show produced by the studio (animation production).
Then, following anime from AIC, SHAFT and A-1 Pictures is a wise choice, since in the graph the anime of these studio covers about 30% of the total for Winter 2013.
Shows of these studios for Summer 2013 as of the OP list are:
* Gen'ei o Kakeru Taiyou
* Gin no Saji: Silver Spoon
* Servant x Service
* Monogatari Series Second Season
P.A. Works has one show running by now (Red Data Girl) and will present [Uchoten kazoku](http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2013/06/11-1/video-uchoten-kazoku-exhibition-at-tokyo-anime-center) and this would be my personal choice.
However, *Genshiken Nidaime* has many strong points to be a very interesting series to be covered on Anime & Manga SE: in my country some volumes of the manga are sold out and the series is very well known, and Production IG is a big name too. This is a series talking about an anime and manga circle, so it can starts discussions about [manga-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-production), [anime-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-production) and [culture](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/culture) like [Bakuman](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/bakuman).
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_1: This is a sort of meta-answer rather than an actual answer. I searched on MAL for all series which will air next season. I then sorted them by number of users listing the series as "plan to watch", and recorded the top 30 (all with over 1000 users). The results are below.
Note, however, that this is just the number of people saying that they plan to watch the series. It's not a terribly good estimate for the actual numbers of viewers. In particular, shows with large existing fanbases are overrated, while sleeper hits won't become clear until we have at least a few episodes to judge by. It also indicates absolutely nothing about our community's strengths or what will make for good questions, just a crude estimate of the overall size of the fanbase.
Sadly, it seems that links don't work inside tables, so I made sure to use the same name as the MAL page.
```
# Members Series Name
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1 13201 High School DxD NEW
2 12061 Blood Lad
3 10654 Kami Nomi zo Shiru Sekai: Megami-hen
4 9929 Free!
5 9453 Monogatari Series: Second Season
6 9120 Danganronpa: Kibou no Gakuen to Zetsubou no Koukousei – The Animation
7 6491 Watashi ga Motenai no wa Dou Kangaetemo Omaera ga Warui!
8 5378 Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya
9 5471 Kamisama no Inai Nichiyoubi
10 4406 Choujigen Game Neptune: The Animation
11 4127 Kimi no Iru Machi
12 3749 Gin no Saji
13 3499 Brothers Conflict
14 3219 Rozen Maiden (2013)
15 3178 Hakkenden: Touhou Hakken Ibun 2
16 3137 Makai Ouji: Devils and Realist
17 2806 Inu to Hasami wa Tsukaiyou
18 2278 Senki Zesshou Symphogear G: In the Distance, That Day, When the Star Became Music...
19 1949 Servant x Service
20 1935 Genei wo Kakeru Taiyou
21 1917 Kiniro Mosaic
22 1913 Gatchaman Crowds
23 1880 Ro-Kyu-Bu! SS
24 1877 Love Lab
25 1529 <NAME>
26 1518 Fantasista Doll
27 1500 Tamayura: More Aggressive
28 1490 Senyuu. 2
29 1470 Stella Jogakuin Koutou-ka C³-bu
30 1099 Kitakubu Katsudou Kiroku
```
Feel free to update this table, but if you do please update the whole table, not just a single series.
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2013/06/09 | 4,661 | 17,964 | <issue_start>username_0: Lately we've been getting some [culture](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/culture "show questions tagged 'culture'") questions such as [this one](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4070/reservations-at-a-bar), concerning bar reservation from something a user read from the *Bartender* manga. I think this is a bit off topic and may be better suited for Travel.SE.
When asking about out-of-universe [culture](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/culture "show questions tagged 'culture'") questions, where should we draw the line? If possible, please provide some acceptable and unacceptable examples in your suggestions.<issue_comment>username_1: I think that questions of the form *"I've seen X happen in anime. Does this happen in real life in Japan?"* aren't really questions about anime (usually). They're questions about Japan. There are exceptions to this, like when X itself is an anime-related topic. For example, asking a specific question about how realistic the portrayal of the anime production company in episode 8 of OreImo would be acceptable (I can't think of any questions regarding this at the moment, but it would at least constitute an acceptable topic).
However, if the same question could be asked without making any reference to an anime, and the answers would be the same, then it's not really an anime question. The linked question "Is it common for Japanese bars to require advance reservations?" is probably an example of that. Hence, I propose the following policy:
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These questions might make sense on [Travel.SE](https://travel.stackexchange.com/) or [JLU.SE](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/), but they aren't squarely within the expertise of anime-fans. For those interested in such things, the [Culture and life in Japan proposal](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/34330/culture-and-life-in-japan) on Area51 would include a lot more questions like this. Some of these questions might still get answers here, since most knowledgeable anime fans also know a lot about Japanese culture, but it isn't strictly a question about anime.
Some of these questions might still be able to converted into valid questions, though often not [culture](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/culture "show questions tagged 'culture'") questions. If X is something that happens quite frequently in anime, though it seems to be less common in real life, then asking about the origin or meaning probably makes a valid [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'") or [symbolism](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/symbolism "show questions tagged 'symbolism'") question. An example of this would be [Why is "I won't forgive you" a commonly used threat?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2914/24). Some of these questions will get answers of the form "Actually, this is common in real life in Japan, not just in anime". However, just asking whether it occurs in Japan is off-topic. Also, note that such questions typically need multiple examples to be reasonable. Depending on the trope, it may require more or less, but IMO three examples is a bare minimum.
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As a note, strictly speaking, the tag [culture](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/culture "show questions tagged 'culture'") is misused pretty frequently. It's not for questions about Japanese culture broadly. Those are off-topic. From the tag wiki, it's for:
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Some examples of [culture](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/culture "show questions tagged 'culture'") questions which *are* properly tagged are [What factors contributed to the "golden age" of anime?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3822/what-factors-contributed-the-golden-age-of-anime) and [Why does censorship level differ between manga and anime?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/862/why-does-censorship-level-differ-between-manga-and-anime). It doesn't include arbitrary questions about Japanese culture, nor does it include questions about tropes (unless the explanation is certain to be based on Japanese culture).
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: There are existing questions asking the reason for certain practice done by characters in anime/manga, which are culture-related.
* [Why is she throwing water on the ground?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/9958/why-is-she-throwing-water-on-the-ground)
* [Why strike stones taken from inside a pot against each other?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/5166/why-strike-stones-taken-from-inside-a-pot-against-each-other)
* [Check and circle marks in test papers](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/17101/check-and-circle-marks-in-test-papers)
* [What are these people doing in front of a shrine?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/20943/what-are-these-people-doing-in-front-of-a-shrine)
Following the policy username_1 suggested, these questions would be off-topic, since the scenes in anime/manga simply reflect the culture in real life, and by replacing anime reference with an image or video in real life, those question would become Japanese culture questions.
However, I think those questions have value on Anime & Manga.SE, since they help viewers better understand the Japanese culture, so they can further appreciate the anime/manga itself. It would also be more natural for the people who see a certain scene in anime/manga and want to understand what is going on to come here and ask their questions here.
Questions from [culture](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/culture "show questions tagged 'culture'") aside, we are bound to run into questions asking about references to real-life Japanese events/politics/people/popular culture/etc. in series such as *Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei*, *Joshiraku* or *Tesagure Bukatsumono*. Those topics are at odd with the site scope. However, to understand those references, it is necessary for the answer to draw knowledge from those fields to adequately explain them.
On the other hand, I wouldn't want our site flooded with direct questions about Japanese culture without any reference to anime/manga, since it would go outside the site scope and attract the wrong audience.
I currently can't think of a policy, since I'm not sure of all the cases that we don't want. However, I think a policy regarding culture questions should:
### Allow
* What/Why do [these characters] perform [this action]?
* What is [this cultural phenomenon] portrayed in many different anime?
* [This anime] claims [some cultural fact]. Is it true?
Using some example questions from [Japanese Culture](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/59039/japanese-culture) proposal as example, these questions would be allowed *if there is a scene in the anime/manga/etc. mentioning the cultural practice*:
* Why does Japanese society put so much emphasis on hierarchical relationships? (上下関係)
* Why are you supposed to take your shoes off when you enter somebody's home?
* Why do the Japanese tie omikuji fortunes to fences and tree limbs?
* Why does [this character] reject [this item] as omiyage (gift)?
(Modified from What items are should you avoid giving as an omiyage (gift)?)
* Why are [these numbers] considered lucky or unlucky in Japan?
(Modified from What numbers are considered lucky or unlucky in Japan?)
* Why is it rude to stab your chopsticks into your rice/pass food with chopsticks/other chopstick etiquette?
* Why is it that lost items are often returned to the police rather than stolen?
* What are the sociocultural factors that contribute to the very long working hours often seen in Japanese companies?
* Why did Japan develop such a strong cultural objection to gun ownership?
* Why do [the characters] say that towel is not allowed in onsen?
(Modified from Are you expected to be naked in an onsen resort? If so would it be unacceptable to wear a swimming costume?)
* Why are New Year celebrations Shinto, marriages Christian, and funerals Buddhist in Japan? [Should be split into 3 questions, each cite examples from anime/manga/etc. Hard to actually pull this off, though]
(Although I list these questions here, some of them I doubt will never get asked here, since there is no anime talking about them)
### Disallow
* What is considered [rude/taboo/good] when [doing something] according to Japanese culture?
* What is the origin of [some cultural practice]?
Using some example questions from [Japanese Culture](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/59039/japanese-culture) proposal as example, these questions would be disallowed:
* Are Ninja as culturally popular in Japan as they currently are in English-speaking countries, especially the USA?
* Does Japan have a similar or equivalent practice of [another culture's practice]?
* In what situations is a yukata worn versus a kimono?
* As a visitor from the United States, is it polite or rude for me to bow?
* Is shrugging your shoulders considered rude in Japan?
* What should you bring when you are invited to a Japanese person's home for dinner?
* Does Japan have a similar or equivalent practice of [another culture's practice]?
* What are the earliest known origins of onigiri (rice balls)?
* When did the association of white flowers with death and funerals begin?
* When did tattoos become associated with yakuza?
* What are the differences in dress between geisha and maiko? Do they have different responsibilities as well?
I hope to use these example questions to draw a line of what to include, and what not to, from which we can observe and generalize it into a policy.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: This answer comes as a counter-proposal answer to [@username_2's](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/2334/274).
Let me first state my fundamental viewpoint: **If we allow these questions to be asked without using anime as *context*, we open the door to all kinds of off-topic questions.** Everything from [programming](https://stackoverflow.com/) to [outdoor living](https://outdoors.stackexchange.com/) becomes on-topic. And that's... bad.
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This is **incorrect**. The anime cited in these questions (well, at least three of them) is required to give the question *context*.
Take, for example, *Why strike stones taken from inside a pot against each other?*. If we remove all references to the anime, we get:
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For all we know, it could be starting a fire with two blocks of flint. The environment, actions, and characters present in the scene are necessary to answer it. Even if you saw someone doing this in real life, you wouldn't have the context of the son leaving home.
Contrast with *Check and circle marks in test papers*, and you get:
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Aside from the possible lacking context that this is happening in *Japan*, nothing changes. It is a question about how a test paper is marked, not about anime, nor even about its characters. You *could* argue that you'd have to know about Keima Katsuragi answering the first one wrong intentionally, so I'm willing to let this one slide with an edit (to show the focus).
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Perhaps this will sound harsh, but why are we tasked with helping people appreciate anime and manga? SO is not asked with helping people appreciate code, Math.SE is not tasked with helping people appreciate math, and so on. While it is fantastic that we can help people understand their favorite anime and manga through our site, it is not our responsibility to sell the medium.
Moreover, it's hard to make the argument that anime is really culturally fulfilling. While some like *Uchouten Kazoku* will provide more cultural themes, if we judged Japanese culture by anime, we'd not only severely overestimate the amount of lolis in Japan, but also miss out on things that are truly important to their culture. (Kind of like learning about World War II by watching *Captain America*.)
If they want to understand Japanese culture better, that's up to them. We could also help them better understand Japanese language used in anime and manga by making those kind of questions on-topic, but that would be silly. Instead, any [japanese-language](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/japanese-language "show questions tagged 'japanese-language'") questions **require context from the anime or manga** in order to be answered. ([(Good)](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/4839/274), [(Bad)](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/4111/274))
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Of course. So, come ask about the scene. Describe the characters, atmosphere, and how they relate to what's going on. **The anime has to give the question context.**
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Yes. This is an ongoing problem. We will frequently have questions that require information from the real world, such as [this world map question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/20982/274). This is why we have contributors that have varied interests, such as physics, language studies, programming, art, and so on. But, this is not to say that this varied skill base is where we should focus the site. That's a bad idea.
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As for your question list, I see some that would be good questions.
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If we do not have a policy in place like [@Logan's](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/611/274), then we will be forced to accept these questions as on topic:
* *Why are pagodas pointy?*
(I saw a pagoda in an anime. Why is it pointy on top?)
* *Why do people drive on the left side of the road?*
(In anime, people always drive on the left. Why?)
At this point you're probably thinking that we can just downvote or close the "bad ones". But that leaves us with the issue that the criteria used to select "bad" questions will become **entirely subjective**. People will say road rules obviously have nothing to do with anime and close it, but anyone who's curious or unsure about what Golden Week is will probably be more than happy to leave it open.
Recall the text of [culture](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/culture "show questions tagged 'culture'") that Logan posted above.
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Asking what Golden Week is, or why a test is scored backwards, is not about anime, nor about manga. (Nor related media.) It is about Japanese culture, or worse, culture in general. It belongs here as much as asking "What's Christmas?" on [Movies & TV](https://movies.stackexchange.com/).
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My opinion: **We should retain [@Logan's policy](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/611/274) on the matter.** If a question cannot be asked without requiring details or context from an anime, manga, or on-topic medium, the question is off-topic.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: As long as the purpose of the question is to understand what you're watching, then it should be fair game.
* If you want to know what that white and black ball-shaped finger-food anime characters often eat is, then that should be fine.
* If you want to know why and when they add suffixes to everyone's names, that should be fine.
Both of those questions would essentially be about something that exists in real life, and that exists independently of anime.
Most viewers would assume that they are both real-life phenomenons, and they would be justified in coming here and asking about them.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/06/23 | 800 | 2,721 | <issue_start>username_0: How should we tag questions about the series [Rosario + Vampire](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosario_%2B_Vampire)?
If we try to tag it as [rosario+vampire], the editor automatically divides it into two tags, [rosario](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/rosario "show questions tagged 'rosario'") and [vampire](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/vampire "show questions tagged 'vampire'").
I've (temporarily, unless the community agrees it should stay as is) tagged [the only existing question for the series](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4195/why-is-tsukune-allowed-into-the-monster-school-in-rosariovampire) as [rosario-+-vampire](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/rosario-%2b-vampire "show questions tagged 'rosario-+-vampire'"), but that looks a bit strange.
**Should we let it be as is, or retag it to something else** (like the romanization of the Japanese name)**?**<issue_comment>username_1: I'm thinking of several options:
1. [rosario-plus-vampire](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/rosario-plus-vampire "show questions tagged 'rosario-plus-vampire'") (I think that's the best option).
2. Another workaround is [rosario++vampire](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/rosario%2b%2bvampire "show questions tagged 'rosario++vampire'").
We could synonym as well.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: What's wrong with just [rosario-vampire](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/rosario-vampire "show questions tagged 'rosario-vampire'")? That shorthand is used in a lot of places where the "+" looks out of place (like in blog post URLs).
MAL has the entry a "Rosario to Vampire" but that romanization seems to be an outlier.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: This [MSO post](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/77757/184716) related to the issue was listed as [status-planned](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/status-planned "show questions tagged 'status-planned'") for over 2 years with no real fix. User [nhahtdh](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/1398/nhahtdh) here (who is also a frequent MSO user) put a bounty on it to attempt to get this worked out, and it seems that the team may add more exceptions to deal with these sorts of cases.
If the tag system is changed to accommodate [rosario+vampire] we should use that as it is more correct (note that this can't be input using the current `[tag:tagname]` syntax here, but can in chat). If not, [rosario-vampire](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/rosario-vampire "show questions tagged 'rosario-vampire'") which is being used right now is an acceptable work-around.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/06/26 | 1,640 | 5,913 | <issue_start>username_0: Now that [custom close reasons](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2013/06/the-war-of-the-closes/) are live, I think we should take time to discuss how to customize our off-topic close reasons.
Here's what Meta.SO did:
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Which means, we'll use this to call out specific types of question we don't like.
[List pending...]
Here are some guidelines to work with:
* **Keep it simple**, so new users reading these will understand, especially if they are not familiar with Stack Exhange or otaku lexicon.
* **Give solid reasoning** -- try to have something that's not too open-ended as to open things up to a debate or retort, like with the legality of certain media sources.
* **Keep it brief** -- there's no need to write a book about it so lets aim for under 500 characters, including links and other Markdown tags.
* **Give your reasoning** behind each reason. It helps to reference previous meta posts (or perhaps we should make a unified meta post for unacceptable questions on the site?) so we don't confuse users haven't taken a chance (or time) to peruse those our lovely meta site. Kinda like [what Arqade did](https://gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5081/here-is-a-thing-look-at-the-thing-do-you-see-the-thing-i-would-like-to-know).
* **Provide three reasons** in your suggestion/answer, because that's all we get, for now...<issue_comment>username_1: I'm gonna play devil's advocate and dare to say that we don't actually need them at the moment.
How many questions do we actually close? As far as I can tell, not a lot.
On bigger sites like SO, the canned off-topic close reasons are to save time when there are literally thousands of questions that need to be closed. But on Anime.SE, we have so few question closures that we actually have the man-power to consider each one on a case-by-case basis. Quite often, we end up debating the status of a question in chat anyway.
So in short, if it doesn't fit one of the existing reasons, I'd say we should just do the custom "other" close reason and explain our case. I don't think we don't have enough traffic to get a good picture on what the "average" off-topic question is like.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: FWIW, I added *one* reason here during the rollout, as it seems to have come up a lot:
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That said, y'all don't seem to be overwhelmed here. Until it becomes a chore, I would recommend just using "other" in most cases and letting the asker know what they did wrong.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: EDIT: These questions should be closed as "too broad", with a comment explaining that such questions are not allowed and linking to [How should we deal with out-of-universe list questions in general?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/587/24). A separate close reason is not necessary in this case.
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We have a bunch of old questions which ask for lists of anime or manga (out-of-universe lists). Some are still open, while others were closed for a fairly wide variety of reasons (which were usually controversial). Our [new policy on this](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/587/24) is that questions asking for a list like this should be closed. Hence, I propose the following close reason:
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It would be nice for this to be added as a custom close reason so that we can go clean up these questions. That would also alert future readers that such questions are no longer allowed here.
Here are some questions which would fall into this category:
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* [Is there a definitive list of Zombie Anime out there or in the making?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2213/)
Already closed but not deleted:
* <https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3758/24>
* <https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2645/24>
Still open:
* <https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/616/24>
* <https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3210/24>
* [What has <NAME> directed at Toei that he isn't credited for?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/2282/24) (debatable)
Note: I've not included any questions of the form "Do there exist any examples of X", such as [Are there any female mangaka pretending to be a male?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/3901/24). These are still under debate, and are at least as common as the above, but in my opinion they're acceptable until they turn into invitations for people to post more examples without adding any further content. If a question of this form is getting lots of examples posted when it's already answered (which are not better answers than the original), it should be protected and/or closed under either this reason or "too broad". I haven't checked which (if any) questions like this deserve to be closed right now.
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2013/06/28 | 1,021 | 3,921 | <issue_start>username_0: This is just a suggestion from me. I suggest for all of us to restrain first from downvoting or voting to close a question, instead we should comment first on how the user can improve his/her questions, especially to those new users.
In reality, most of new users are excited to use this site without reading the FAQs. They are excited to participate so they ignore the site's rules, thus having them ask not-so-good questions or answers. So, being users who have more understanding on how the site really works, we have to be a little considerate on them, to not lure them away from using the site.
I, myself has gone through this and I admit it, it is a bit discouraging to have your questions downvoted or closed. But when I got used to the site's rules and understood how it works, I got more comfortable. I don't know if I'm being too paranoid or a bit off-topic but with our questions per day dropping I think we should be concern with this.
[This new question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4247/kenpachi-versus-shunsui) got me troubled. As you can see, the user is a bit frustrated as to why his question got downvoted and has votes to close.
The bottomline of what I'm suggesting is, let's be a little more considerate of the new users and consider commenting first before downvoting or voting to close. If the user didn't modify his/her question after having comments on how to improve the question or answer, then probably that's the time to downvote or vote to close.
Again, this is just a suggestion and I mean no harm.<issue_comment>username_1: Not sure if you noticed, but the example question you've linked has no less than 5 (now 6, including mine) comments explaining why his question isn't good, and only 2 votes down, plus 2 votes to close.
Voting is part of the site, you get rewarded for good posts, and "stung" for bad ones. That's one of the main points of the site, and it's the reason the Stack Exchange model has become successful.
Commenting and explaining things to the user is nice, but it's less meaningful without actually feeling "the sting".
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Although I understand your concern, either you provided a bad example question or I just don't agree with you. That question *needs* to be closed, even if it is a question by a new user. You said it yourself in [a comment you left there](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4247/kenpachi-versus-shunsui#comment3514_4247):
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Plus, if you read [this in the help center](https://anime.stackexchange.com/help/dont-ask), you'll see the question just does not fit the SE model. This is taken from "What types of questions should I avoid asking?":
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Having said this, I understand that sometimes we may seem harsh on new users, and that could be solved by commenting instead of downvoting. However, that's not always the case, as some questions are just plain bad or simply do not fit the Q&A model we have. Now the important part here, is that whenever you close a question, you should leave a comment explaining why you did it.
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2013/07/03 | 1,083 | 4,198 | <issue_start>username_0: I've seen several instances of new users posting links to scanalation sites for manga or full anime episodes. This is (as far as I can tell) not allowed here. The canonical reference for this is [How do we deal with copyrighted material on our site?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/404/24), which says that moderators aren't responsible for policing copyright violations (which I agree with).
However, it also says that links to fansub groups, scanalation sites, etc. for the purpose of sharing the illegal content are clearly out of bounds, and I would argue that they also make our site look less professional. This doesn't apply to embedded images, links to short video clips, or legal streaming sites. When a new user posts such a link in an otherwise good question/answer, I'll typically edit it out (possibly replacing it with an image or quote if there's a reason to do so) and leave a comment to the effect of "please don't post links to illegal sources for anime/manga here", which hasn't caused any problems so far.
However, it's also common for new users to leave such links in comments. A recent example is [here](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4273/is-there-a-special-meaning-to-the-class-name-2-h-2#comment3559_4277). In these cases, I leave a comment telling them the same, but there's not anything I can do to get rid of the links. If the user deletes it themselves, we're all clear, but if that doesn't happen, there's no practical way that I can enforce our no-fansub policy, besides a custom flag for moderator intervention to delete it.
**So, with regard to such comments (containing material which clearly violates our policy on fansubs and scanalations), which of these is the best course of action?**
* Leave a comment informing them of our policy, and if they don't delete the comment then do nothing.
* Leave a comment, and wait some period of time. If they don't delete it, then flag it.
* Leave a comment, and simultaneously flag the post.
* Something else<issue_comment>username_1: I say either the second or the third options you wrote are the way to go.
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However, the second has the problem that you (or whoever left the comment to inform the new user) may forget you left the comment and end up not flagging it. So maybe the **third option may be the best**.
With that said, I know I generally edit out anything like this that I catch, but I may not always catch it. So with or without the "waiting period" I think these things should definitely be flagged.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Haven't we discussed this before? In the **[Fourth](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/conversation/copyright-material-in-posts-4-chat-cast) [Chat-cast](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/conversation/more-on-copyright-4-chat-cast)** (there are two links there).
We've agreed, with the help of a community moderators, that we are not lawyers, and should not think much of it (unless it's something obviously dubious like a link to a warez site and the such).
If it's *for the purpose* of sharing the copyrighted content (and not as an appendix or assistive to the post), flag and remove it. If it's borderline, leave it.
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Now that us moderators have the ability to *undelete comments deleted by moderators*, I think it would be safer to remove bluntly (and even borderline-ish) offensive material from comments, we can always undelete them later if we require.
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Additionally, other new users may see the link before it's deleted and also think it's OK to post such links. They may simply not see the comment asking to remove the link, or they could even see the comment and think "well the post hasn't been deleted so I guess it's not THAT bad."
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2013/07/14 | 1,685 | 5,817 | <issue_start>username_0: In order to help bring together new and veteran users of our site to different genres and series of anime, out community is holding a weekly social event in our [Review and Recommendations](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/7576/recommendations-and-reviews) chatroom on Saturday.
Any and all users are welcome to join. A minimum of 20 rep is required to access the chatroom, you are encouraged to participate in our main Stack Exchange site, but it is not mandatory. Any new users with less than 20 rep may ask a moderator for an invite to the room for this event via the Community's [Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/AnimeAndMangaQA) or [Google+](https://plus.google.com/b/111061084179563499110/111061084179563499110/posts) Page.
The format of the event will be simple, the next event starts on **Sept. 14th, 2013 @ 1700 UTC (1pm EDT)**. Users interested in attending should watch the mentioned episode for some casual discussion of the various aspects of the episode or series, e.g. what you liked/didn't like, any references you noticed, trivia, or ask any questions you may have about the episode or series.
The session is expected to last about an hour. Click [here to view and register](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/7576/recommendations-and-reviews?tab=schedule) yourself!
For this week will be a **free topic** session. Come discuss whatever series you'd like.
If you have any issues feel free to join us in our [general chatroom](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/anime-and-manga) and well try to help you as best we can. At the end of our sessions, we will be choosing the next series to watch.
Feel free to post your nominations as an answer to this question. Any TV series, OVA, or movies are alright. Newer and non-mainstream series are especially welcome, as they give new anime viewers a fresher perspective on the industry. Classic anime are welcome as well as long as they can be easily accessible by your average user.
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**Synopsis**: In a time in Kyoto that's populated by humans, shapeshifting tanuki, and flying tengu, the head of the Shimogamo tanuki family, Souichirou, who has been the head of the tanuki community in Kyoto, has been eaten by a group of humans called the "Friday Club". With Shimogamo family now in decline, the story follows the son of Souichirou, Yasaburou, along with his mother, powerful older brother and timid younger brother (and another brother who decides he's better off as a frog). Now he's tasked with taking care of the old head of the tengu as he learns about his father and the tengu and human communities.
**Reason**: Really interesting characters and art style. Kind of a surreal setting where you're not sure how serious you're supposed to take everything, sometimes funny, sometimes serious.
The show is on Crunchyroll and is currently (as of 7/22/2013) on its third episode.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I think [Kyousogiga](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=13434) would be a fun series to watch, especially with a TV series [coming this Fall Season (2013)](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-07-26/kyousogiga-anime-gets-tv-series-this-fall).
**Synopsis**: The basic plot is pretty much ripped straight from that story: the main character, Koto, has somehow been sent to some crazy fantasy world and she is looking for a rabbit so that she can return home. Everything else teeters on the edge of sort of making sense and being complete bullshit. The story is also kind of clumsy in the way it sporadically skips from one scene to the next with almost no indication of who the people it’s focusing on are, but I guess that kind of goes along with the dreamlike world it’s set in.
**Reason**: The premise is a bit like *Alice in Wonderland*, but with the zany and outlandish styles of *Mononoke, Trapeze, Summer Wars, and FLCL*. The plot starts out a bit thin, but the action and character really draw you in, even when you don't know what's going on.
Check out the PV trailer and see for yourself [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In4YoCWTKiM).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: **Children Who Chase Lost Voices**
*<NAME> (星を追う子ども) (lit. “Children Who Chase Stars”)*
**Synopsis:** The movie follows a young girl named Asuna who is living a standard life in small-town Japan after the death of her father as she discovers that there is a hidden world underground replete with fantastic creatures and a surprising history that may hold the key to resurrecting the dead.
**Reason:** Watching this movie will give any anime fan a lot of flashbacks to the heyday of Studio Ghibli fantasy adventures, but this movie really is much more than just a Ghibli clone. *Children Who Chase Lost Voices* skews toward an older audience than other fantasy adventures dealing thematically with such subject matter as coping with loss and the purpose/inevitability of death while including the beautiful sweeping vistas and intricately detailed environments that Shinkai films are known for. Certainly the best fantasy adventure anime to come out in a long while.
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2013/07/28 | 534 | 1,762 | <issue_start>username_0: [Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pet_Girl_of_Sakurasou) is an LN with a recent anime adaptation. The tag [sakurasou-no-pet-na-kanojo](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/sakurasou-no-pet-na-kanojo "show questions tagged 'sakurasou-no-pet-na-kanojo'") is 26 characters, which just barely doesn't fit, so the user who created it [here](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4482/why-is-maid-chan-voice-actor-listed-as-in-ending-credits) used [sakurasou-no-pet](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/sakurasou-no-pet "show questions tagged 'sakurasou-no-pet'") instead. This is a reasonable choice, but not necessarily the best one. There is an English name, "The Pet Girl of Sakurasou", which would fit at 25 characters if we used [the-pet-girl-of-sakurasou](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/the-pet-girl-of-sakurasou "show questions tagged 'the-pet-girl-of-sakurasou'"). Personally I've not heard the English title used much.
**What tag should we use for this series?**<issue_comment>username_1: The english tag name [the-pet-girl-of-sakurasou](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/the-pet-girl-of-sakurasou "show questions tagged 'the-pet-girl-of-sakurasou'") works as it is valid, legible and is nested within SE's tag naming restrictions so I say use it instead.
On your comment about the popularity of the english title, "sakurasou" is present in both so it should be found quite easily.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Why not simply use [sakurasou](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/sakurasou "show questions tagged 'sakurasou'") and note its full name in the description? Alternatives can be added as synonyms.
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2013/07/30 | 393 | 1,435 | <issue_start>username_0: I've discovered this section of Stack Exchange and I like it. However, the icon here is confusing me.
What is this? Perhaps a Japanese character? If so what does it mean? Is it open to change?
I have seen other beta sites that have the blue background with something special (like the [Lego](https://bricks.stackexchange.com/) one)
Also, there are multiple icons that are just the blue background with a couple letters from the page title, like [Board Games](https://boardgames.stackexchange.com/)
<issue_comment>username_1: This is the temporary icon given to us (this site, <http://anime.stackexchange.com>) by Stack Exchange.
It will (maybe) change when we graduate, and we can try to ask for it to be changed, if you propose an alternative, and it gets voted positively here on meta.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: The icon is the kanji 画, which can mean either brush-stroke or picture (the latter seems to be the meaning intended here). It has many different pronunciations (my dictionary lists 9) so I won't list them all here. It is used in a number of art-related Japanese words, including the words for picture (画像), artist (画家), and to draw (画する). Perhaps most relevant for this site, it's also used in *manga* (漫画).
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2013/08/01 | 1,702 | 7,002 | <issue_start>username_0: Recently we had a [question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4573/how-do-i-read-manga-with-multiple-panes) that didn't really feel like it falls under [manga-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-production "show questions tagged 'manga-production'"), so I provisionally created a [general-manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/general-manga "show questions tagged 'general-manga'") tag.
Should we have a general tag (either an all inclusive one or or separate ones for anime and manga) for miscellaneous questions that don't fall under either [manga-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-production "show questions tagged 'manga-production'") and [anime-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-production "show questions tagged 'anime-production'")?
Is there a better way we can handle this? Or are we just chasing a figurative unicorn here?<issue_comment>username_1: I'm not a fan of [general-manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/general-manga "show questions tagged 'general-manga'"). It has most of the problems that [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") would have had (hence why it's blacklisted), namely that it would be incorrectly applied frequently and too broad. It seems to subsume all other manga-specific tags, such as [manga-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-production "show questions tagged 'manga-production'"), at least in principle. Furthermore, I literally can't imagine any other questions which would be in [general-manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/general-manga "show questions tagged 'general-manga'") that are not already covered by one or more existing tags. Rather, when questions like this come up, we should find more specific tags for them.
In my view, a better tag for this question would be a fairly specific tag for this sort of question, namely [panel-arrangement](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/panel-arrangement "show questions tagged 'panel-arrangement'") or something similar. This would include all questions asking about the flow of a specific page of manga, and it could be useful for future askers in a relatively small number of cases. For example, I still get confused occasionally when reading shoujo manga, as (for whatever reason) it often has much more complicated arrangements than most other genres. There's quite a bit more to how panels are arranged than just "read left-to-right" so I think the tag makes sense, though it will probably be a low-volume tag.
Finally, regarding this particular question, I think it should be edited to be more descriptive. The OP isn't really looking for the "general rule" of what the right order to read the panels is. The general rule, insofar as one exists, is to read right-to-left, and the OP already knew this. There are exceptions to that rule, which is why [panel-arrangement](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/panel-arrangement "show questions tagged 'panel-arrangement'") isn't totally trivial, but that's the only simple "general rule" which exists. What the OP really wants to know is how he should read this particular page of manga and why it is not in the usual arrangement. He may have been looking for a rule that can be applied in all such cases, but with the number of exceptions and special cases such a question is probably closeable as "too broad". Making it specific to this particular page of the Naruto manga in both the title and question body would make the question more objectively answerable, avoid spoilers for future viewers, and pave the way for occasional future questions in the same vein about different confusing pages.
So in summary, the changes I suggest (both for this question and in terms of [general-manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/general-manga "show questions tagged 'general-manga'")) are:
* Keep [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'") on the question
* Add [panel-arrangement](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/panel-arrangement "show questions tagged 'panel-arrangement'") to this question
* Remove [general-manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/general-manga "show questions tagged 'general-manga'") from this and any other questions
* Make the question title and body specific to this page of manga
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I think a [general-manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/general-manga "show questions tagged 'general-manga'") would be considered a meta-tag per: <http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/08/the-death-of-meta-tags/>
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I propose [manga-reading](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-reading "show questions tagged 'manga-reading'") as it describes the content of the question.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: I think we should take the simplest route:
**Tag the question with the series (or author) it's from (or by).**
In this case, [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'") or [masashi-kishimoto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/masashi-kishimoto "show questions tagged 'masashi-kishimoto'").
Even if we have questions about how to read certain panels on pages, it's usually localized to the just that series or author. Even if we have questions about how to read certain panels on pages, it's usually localized to the just that series or author, rarely does an author deviate from a normal style. Questions about panel layout should stay consistent with in a series...
Questions about why the paneling in two (or more) series differ can probably fall under [manga-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-production "show questions tagged 'manga-production'"), but questions about the panel arrangement of a certain series, should go under fall under the series itself.
Just like how was can examine/ask questions the artistic style of an anime, with the series/author (probably director in this case) tag, I think asking about the panel arrangement falls under the same category.
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2013/08/02 | 1,104 | 4,576 | <issue_start>username_0: Recently there was [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/4591/63) asking about now defunct "thesubwire.com" site the aggregates manga, anime, and light novel updates, but it has since closed down for reasons unknown.
Are questions about these websites (such as the one mentioned above) and/or their communities (i.e. question pertaining to specific events, people, or news from Nico Nico, 2ch, and/or 4ch) considered on-topic? If so, how should we tag them? To what extent do we allow questions such as these?<issue_comment>username_1: I think it can probably be umbrellaed under [resources](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/resources "show questions tagged 'resources'"), maybe? I think questions pertaining to sites like nicodouga or 2ch are relevant as long as the question is about anime and manga, and not about the site specifically. In that sense, nicodouga or 2ch could be considered a "resource" related to the anime or manga in question.
The question about `thesubwire.com` is a little meta or borderline. The issue that I think should be raised is that sites like that are illegal. The subwire site specifically hosts translations of copyrighted works, which are protected by international copyright law from being translated without the copyright holder's consent. Subtitles, scanlations, and full-on translations of novels are all completely illegal and vary in degree how much the copyright holders are willing to pursue their rights.
I don't know what took down the site in question but asking for such a site, IMO, is like asking for fansubs.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: One thing that should be made clear is that our policy against fansubs is **not for legal reasons** (e.g. copyright). Stack Exchange employees monitor copyright claims, and it's neither the job of the community nor the moderators here to do that. We can ban discussion of fansubs on the main site, but this is done because they're off-topic and don't maintain a professional image, not because they're illegal. We can actually put SE in some legal hot water if we are too enthusiastic about trying to enforce legal restrictions on the site, so it's best to leave all legal issues up to them directly.
With regards to this question, I think it fails on this count because it's specifically asking about fansubs. Despite that, there are sites, like MAL, which would seemingly constitute valid answers and don't seem to be violating any laws. However, my biggest problem with questions like this is that it opens us up to essentially any question about any anime site, which isn't really what I think we're here for. This gets in to a fuzzy area, namely what the borders are of resource request questions, which is why I would have preferred for such questions to be held on meta rather than on the main site (see [this question](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/474/how-should-we-handle-posts-containing-anime-manga-resources)). I don't have an answer to what the boundary should be for such questions, but this one is clearly over it in my opinion.
**Update:** After rereading the question, I'll mention that there is a perfectly valid closely related question, namely "What databases of anime series exist?". If the references to thesubwire were removed (most notably "Does anyone know what happened to this site?" which is off-topic, but it would probably be good to remove the other references to avoid confusion also), and the parts of the question about showing translation updates (which violates the above policy) were removed, then I think it would be okay as a resource question, and probably more useful the the majority of people.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: The conclusion we've reach **on this particular question** is that since it is a question concerning fan-translations, the [referenced question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/4591/63) is **considered off-topic.**
As for question about specific anime/manga-related site, we'll review them on a case-to-case basis for now. Some might be considered on-topic (e.g., questions about Crunchyroll's anime lineup) while others might be considered off-topic (e.g., questions about what happens on 2/4ch).
As a side note, resource requests [are allowed](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/474/how-should-we-handle-posts-containing-anime-manga-resources) on the main site using the [resource](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/resource "show questions tagged 'resource'") tag.
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2013/08/16 | 941 | 3,454 | <issue_start>username_0: Sometimes, I find myself wanting to cite a Japanese text as evidence for an answer to a question on Anime.SE. Japanese sometimes includes phonetic annotations called furigana, which look like this:
The small characters in the upper line of text are phonetic annotations that explain how the characters in the main (lower) line of text are read.
In order to faithfully reproduce Japanese text, furigana are often necessary. This is particularly important for anime-related media (light novels, in particular), which frequently use completely nonstandard "phonetic" readings for various kanji (cf. 禁書目録 as インデックス in "A Certain Magical Index").
Japanese.SE already supports furigana in markdown. The example above ([taken from Japanese.SE](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/12552/why-does-the-%E6%96%87%E8%AA%9E-version-of-the-bible-have-so-many-nonstandard-readings)) was generated using the following markdown:
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It's possible to do this in raw HTML using and its friends, but that gets to be [kind of verbose](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/ruby) and a pain to type out by hand each time. Can we get support for the `{}` Markdown shorthand here, too?<issue_comment>username_1: This site should now have the [same functionality](https://japanese.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/199/jlu-hacks-ruby-rendering) as Japanese SE.
It's supported both on the main site and on meta, but not in comments.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: This is a very good addition, but we should be careful about overusing it. Keep in mind that lots of users here can't read any Japanese, including Hiragana/Katakana. Using furigana is not a substitute for including a translation, and in cases where the pronunciation is important, a romanization of the text as well. Furigana are very helpful for a minority of users in a minority of situations.
I think most people would find them most useful when the reading of a word is important and the intended reading is not the most common reading. For instance, from the example posted, 元始 is usually read as げんし, so the reading as はじめ is not obvious. Similarly, 創造 would normally be read as そうぞう, so including the furigana here is helpful. However, the readings of 神 and 天地 are the most common ones and would be recognizable for most users here who know any Japanese. If the person doesn't know these, what they should do is look them up in a dictionary, not look at furigana and try to guess the meaning of the word. If you use furigana it basically forces everyone to read the tiny text in case it's supposed to be read differently, and for most users here who are able to read the Japanese text it's a nuisance for two of those four words.
With that in mind, I think we should agree to use this sparingly. My criterion would be that if it's useful for someone who is fluent in Japanese, we can include it, but if it's only useful for those learning Japanese then don't include it. So if, for example, a light novel uses a nonstandard reading and you want to quote it (e.g. the example posted 禁書目録), go ahead, but don't add it to kanji that would be read correctly by those who are already familiar with the characters. Our goal isn't to teach people Japanese here; it's to have questions and answers about anime.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/08/16 | 872 | 3,178 | <issue_start>username_0: For example, the Japanese title of [the 2013 Spring anime that has AHSMBs in it](http://myanimelist.net/anime/15863/Ginga_Kikoutai_Majestic_Prince) is 銀河機攻隊マジェスティックプリンス. When giving a romanization (as opposed to a translation, which would be "Galactic Armored Fleet Majestic Prince" or something), should we romanize it as "ginga kikoutai majesutikku purinsu" or "ginga kikoutai majestic prince"? In my experience, the latter style is overwhelmingly favored among English-speaking anime communities on the internet.
I'm asking because I noticed that the [toaru-kagaku-no-railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/toaru-kagaku-no-railgun "show questions tagged 'toaru-kagaku-no-railgun'") and [toaru-majutsu-no-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/toaru-majutsu-no-index "show questions tagged 'toaru-majutsu-no-index'") tag wiki excerpts use the romanizations "Rērugan" and "Indekkusu" respectively, while the tags themselves use the English analogues ("railgun" and "index"). Should we standardize on one style or the other for tags and tag wikis, and if so, which one?<issue_comment>username_1: I don't really think we need an official policy on this in general.
For most things other than tag names and possibly tag wikis, it's up to the post author what they want to use. So long as it's recognizable, I don't see a problem with either method of romanization. Often times if I'm using the Japanese name of a series I'll also use the English name since it's impossible to know which is more recognizable for most people.
For tag names, we usually prefer the English name if there is an official one that fits within 25 characters. If not, the goal is just to make it recognizable to the majority of people and search engines while retaining most of the keywords, though there are [some guidelines](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/521/24) for the best way to do this most of the time. Which is better is going to depend a lot on the series itself, but I suspect most of the time using the English word is going to be better for SEO and also in terms of fitting the title within 25 characters. For tag wikis, the most important purpose of these is to make it clear what the series is, so it probably makes sense to include all names by which the series is known.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Since this is an English language site, it only makes sense to use the English version of the words which are obviously supposed to be English. "Rērugan" and "Indekkusu" are obviously English words and not borrowed words.
For Tag names, I personally prefer to use [kana spelling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C4%81puro_r%C5%8Dmaji) which makes it easier to type on regular US-101/104 style keyboards (using things like "ou" instead of "ō"). As for the name to use in anime/manga title tags, I personally prefer to use the name of an official westernized licensor (like "A certain scientific railgun"), just because most of the time it's easier to find for more casual fans, but it runs into the problem of other English speaking regions and their possibly (different) localization titles.
Upvotes: 1 |
2013/08/20 | 1,613 | 6,185 | <issue_start>username_0: Recently there was the addition of [viewing-order](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/viewing-order "show questions tagged 'viewing-order'"), a meta tag intended to tag questions which request the chronological or intended viewing order or a particular series. The following questions were suggested to be tagged:
* [What is the in-universe chronological order of the Monogatari Series?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4695/what-is-the-chronological-order-of-the-monogatari-series)
* [What is the proper order to watch Hakuouki in?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2650/what-is-the-proper-order-of-watching-hakuouki)
* [Which anime episodes of Aria correspond to which manga chapters?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2249/which-anime-episodes-of-aria-correspond-to-which-manga-chapters)
* [What is the chronological order of the episodes of xxxHolic?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/368/what-is-the-chronological-order-of-the-episodes-of-xxxholic)
* [In what order should I watch the Ghost in the Shell series?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2922/in-what-order-should-i-watch-the-ghost-in-the-shell-series)
* [In what order should I watch Daily Lives of High School Boys series?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4881/in-what-order-should-i-watch-daily-lives-of-high-school-boys-series)
The Sci-fi & Fantasy StackExchange has [a 'suggested-order' tag](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/suggested-order) which is similar to this idea. That said, this tag does not seem necessary, but there are pros and cons.
**Pros**
* All viewing-order-related questions will be easily accessible.
* Anyone wishing to answer only questions related to viewing order can have this tag followed.
**Cons**
* It is highly unlikely that there can be an expert in viewing orders. This was largely the reason for avoiding meta tags thus far.
* There probably won't ever be a question that will receive an answer from someone who had [viewing-order](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/viewing-order "show questions tagged 'viewing-order'") followed, but not any of the series in question.
**Should we keep [viewing-order](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/viewing-order "show questions tagged 'viewing-order'"), or is this another meta tag that should go by the wayside?**<issue_comment>username_1: I think we **should get rid of [viewing-order](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/viewing-order "show questions tagged 'viewing-order'")**. I come to this conclusion based on the points I made in the question: There will probably not be an expert on viewing orders in general, and the answers will likely come from people who are intimate with the tagged series.
In lieu of [viewing-order](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/viewing-order "show questions tagged 'viewing-order'"), any viewing-order-related questions should be tagged with **any and all series** that it pertains directly to. Some examples:
* "What is the chronological order of the *Monogatari* Series?" [monogatari-series](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/monogatari-series "show questions tagged 'monogatari-series'")
* "I want to watch all the *Pokémon* movies; in what order should I do so?" [pokemon](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/pokemon "show questions tagged 'pokemon'")
* "What is the viewing order of *Robotics;Notes*, *Chaos;Head*, and *Steins;Gate*?" [robotics-notes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/robotics-notes "show questions tagged 'robotics-notes'") [chaos-head](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/chaos-head "show questions tagged 'chaos-head'") [steins-gate](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/steins-gate "show questions tagged 'steins-gate'")
However, as mentioned, I do not believe that these questions warrant their own unique tag. Additionally, [viewing-order](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/viewing-order "show questions tagged 'viewing-order'") should be removed from any existing questions.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I'm not convinced that [viewing-order](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/viewing-order "show questions tagged 'viewing-order'") is a meta tag. There's basically no debate as to what questions fit under it. It also requires some skill to answer these questions, especially when the series was not released in chronological order. Writing a good spoiler-free answer to these questions does require a bit of skill.
With that said, I'm not sure that the tag helps more than it hurts. The primary issue I have with it is that if we apply it consistently it will take up the top spot on most questions, which is significant for the purposes of SEO. The top tag which is not already a part of the question gets added at the beginning of the question title. That means that most of these questions, when indexed by Google, will begin with "viewing-order", possibly pushing more important keywords into worse positions. For example, for the question "What is the chronological order of the Monogatari Series?", the most important keywords are "Monogatari series" and "chronological". "viewing order" isn't important and isn't very helpful.
Admittedly, all of this is pretty minor, but the benefits are also minimal. For most series, there are only a small number of users here who have seen it (often in the single digits), and they're the only ones qualified to answer this sort of question. I don't really think it will lead to any more questions getting better answers at this stage, and it's more likely to get out of hand than to aid people. In this case, I don't see the added troubles being worth it for us right now. When we get to a size that we have a sizable number of users for a lot of series, it may be worth reconsidering this. Also, if SE creates a new feature that would allow us to not have this tag influence SEO as much then it might be worth having.
So tl;dr, **I agree that we should get rid of the tag for now, but for different reasons than the other answer.**
Upvotes: 1 |
2013/08/22 | 1,475 | 6,108 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm asking because I can't find a list of reasons why questions about where to read/watch fansubbed anime, scanlated manga online are illegal. I'd like this site to have a separate page on that, or at least short phrases in the help center that would explain, or link to appropriate SE policy documents with more detail.
So why are fansubs and scanlations illegal? As far as I know, they are alright unless some company is going to produce their own translation. I get it that not everyone might know right away when a certain anime or manga localization gets licensed in wherever the legal boundaries prohibit further distribution of fan-made translations, so it would be bothersome, or impossible to keep track of all such material (links to it) and delete in time. But there's so much stuff on Youtube that is not deleted yet. Why is that? Does Youtube has some kind of different policy than SE sites? I mean aren't corresponding laws the same for all sites?<issue_comment>username_1: Our policy is that we aren't lawyers, and won't prevent you from adding scanlated images or video links to episodes if your answer to a legitimate post can be improved by it.
As a general rule, Fansubbing and scanlation distribution is illegal on most countries (as well as the US, where SE is rooted). We just don't care if it's for the sake of making a post more high a quality, and no one seems to care (from the copyright holder's place)
We do care when someone deliberately asks for such information, because the answer itself, in its core, would be about something which is probably illegal.
Note that asking where you can read/watch manga/anime **legally** is not off-topic on this site.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I wish to address the situation that lead to this meta question rather than the topic of the question.
It seems after chatting with the user that this question is related to [my meta question here](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/635/how-should-we-deal-with-new-users-posting-links-to-illegal-material-in-comments). The OP of this question inserted in a comment on [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/4273/24) links to a manga page on a scanalation site and a YouTube video of a complete anime episode.
In this case, the link to the scanalation site was replaced by an image of the page in question, which was relevant. The YouTube video was removed. These actions were performed by a moderator after I flagged the comment explaining that the comment itself was helpful but the links should be changed or removed.
In the case of the scanalation website, I think this was actually an improvement to the quality of the comment. The current image is more stable (being uploaded to Stack Exchange's imgur account, it's immune to link rot except in very drastic cases). It also doesn't require users here to visit a site of questionable legality to see the content. Because the comment was just referencing the manga and had nothing to do with the scanalation site, there was no loss in content. **For on-topic manga references, these can and should always be done via uploading an image with the upload feature and linking to them with** `[link text](https://i.stack.imgur.com/XXXXXXX)`. Even ignoring questions of legality, this style of manga references should always be preferred to linking to a page from a scanalation site for practical reasons, whether in questions/answers or comments.
The YouTube link was more questionable in my opinion. At first glance I could not see how it was relevant. I suspect there was relevant content there, but it was basically impossible to access because the video was too long. YouTube videos can be made to start at a particular point, which really would have helped demonstrate that the link was useful. Alternatively the user could give a screenshot of the relevant point of the video if it's a single frame. In any case, this link is more debatable than the other one, if only because YouTube is a more reputable site and the link was removed rather than being converted. I believe removing the link was an acceptable action mostly because it was not helpful in its present form (as a link to the beginning of the video rather than to the relevant point in the video). Another good option would be to find the relevant clip as a shorter video and link to that. **If any of the above actions had been taken, I think the link could have probably stayed, but in its present form it was not useful and made us look unprofessional.**
With all of that said, while the actions were justified, these are very understandable mistakes. Our policy on fansubs and scanalations is admittedly a bit hard to follow. As a general rule, links to scanalation sites should be replaced by uploaded images to imgur. Beyond that, so long as the links you post are in good faith, helpful, and aren't actively promoting copyright violations, they aren't really a problem in my opinion.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: Addressing the OP question:
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International Copyright Treaties state so. No matter what the fansubs think, a work does not need to be licenced in your country. The [Berne Convention](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention) applies if your country is a signatary (Japan and USA are). There is [an article at AnimeNews Network by <NAME>](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2003-06-08/3) that goes in depth, but his conclusion, and I quote:
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There are also the [wikipedia article on the subject](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fansub#Legal_and_ethical_issues), if you want more sources.
Bottom Line: Unless specifically authorized or licenced by the copyright holder, it is illegal.
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2013/09/14 | 889 | 3,573 | <issue_start>username_0: Sometimes we get questions that contain an image and ask "what is this image from?", where it turns out that performing a reverse image search on the image returns English-language results identifying the origin of the image. For example:
* <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/5188/>
* <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/5139/>
* [What manga is this image with a depressed girl from?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4122/)
Are these questions good (i.e. upvote-worthy, or at least not-downvote-worthy)?<issue_comment>username_1: I do not think these questions are good, and that they do deserve downvotes. I object to them on two grounds:
1. These questions show literally no research effort.
2. These questions are almost entirely unhelpful to other people. Images aren't searchable except by reverse image search, so unless someone comes upon the question by reverse-image-searching the exact image that the OP put in the question, they'll never find it.
I'm not asking for them to be closed, of course - they're on topic, and deserve to remain open (in keeping with various SE principles, including the principle that there are no questions "too easy" to be asked). It's just that they're also *bad*, and so I do think that these questions merit downvotes.
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Note that I am identifying a relatively narrow set of questions as problems here. Other identification questions that are superficially similar but to which I do not object include:
* [What show is this?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/5105/) (at the time it was posted, all reverse image search results were in Japanese)
* [What's the character in the poster hanging on the wall supposed to be?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/5187/) (reverse image search returns no relevant results)
* [Can you help me identify what supernatural anime with white-haired protagonist this is?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/5165/) (non-quotative text descriptions are not generally amenable to search)
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: I don't see these questions as problematic. I will preface this by saying: If you wish to downvote, that is your prerogative; the act of voting is anonymous and completely subjective. **However**, I would discourage downvoting, closing, and other such actions for the following reasons.
Many people do not even know [Google reverse-image search](https://support.google.com/images/answer/1325808?hl=en) exists. Unfortunately I don't have any specific polls or stats on this, but I have had many people ask me the origin of a specific image, after which I point them to the reverse search, much to their astonishment. We are an anime and manga site, not a tech site, so we should not assume people to be familiar with anything beyond Google's basic image and text searches.
Additionally, the question itself will contain a lot of *searchable, textual* details. Let's take the *piyo-piyo* apron question for example: It contains a title referring to the term "piyo", as well as the apron, and then shows an image. If we then imagine someone, *without* the image, who searches "anime girl piyo-piyo apron" on Google, they could easily end up on our site. That's a win-win: We get traffic, and our users get an answer.
In essence, I am opposed to viewing reverse-image-searchable questions as "poor" because **there is little awareness of Google's reverse-image capabilities**, and because **having such questions improves our chances of drawing in someone with the same question**.
Upvotes: 3 |
2013/11/04 | 1,835 | 7,674 | <issue_start>username_0: Generally, we like for text-based [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions to contain as much information as possible. Things like names of characters, major plot points, and genre/atmosphere are very important, and less significant things like subplots, where/when the OP saw it, details about art style, etc are all very helpful for answerers. Questions which don't include enough information are *usually* bad questions, as they may have multiple possible answers and it's essentially a guessing game as to which is the correct one.
With that said, *sometimes* one has a reasonable guess what the right answer is, despite the lack of information. By reasonable, I don't just mean "this matches a couple of the OP's points," but "this matches everything the OP said, and it's very likely the correct answer." This is a subjective judgement, but I think it's something that users here can be trusted to make.
Normally, if a non-ID question is even remotely answerable, it can be edited to be a good question that fits our standards in some way. Either the question is clear, and can be edited and answered by anyone, or it's unclear and requires more input from the OP and should be closed. However, ID requests are different in that we can't even edit anything in. The OP is the only one who knows what series they're thinking of. Furthermore, they may not know any more information besides what they provided.
So, what's the proper policy when a low-quality ID request comes along that I think I know the answer to? Is it appropriate to post the answer despite the fact that the question has problems, and let the OP and the community decide on how useful it is? (After all, the problems were not significant enough to stop us from finding the answer.) Should I comment to request for clarification when I already think I know what the answer is? Should I vote to close as unclear? In addition, if I do manage to guess correctly, at that point should more details be edited in to the question?
I personally lean towards posting the answer--after all, all text-based ID request answers are guesses to some degree, and the community here is capable of judging whether the guess is at least reasonable. However, I can see arguments for other actions as well.<issue_comment>username_1: If you feel you have the correct answer for the question, I think you should post it. Flawed as the question may be, as you've pointed out in this type of questions answers are always guesses to some degree.
In addition to this, however, I think you could always leave a comment requesting some clarification you find necessary (maybe because you were not sure if it was *show a* or *show b*, and one simple detail would make you lean toward one or the other, or something of the like).
If you do leave the correct answer, I think it's mostly up to the OP to add said clarification or not (although IMO, there's no need for it).
However, if your answer is not correct, I think the OP *should* add some clarification (sometimes it may not be possible).
I think closing as unclear should only take place when the question is very generic, and after comments requesting clarification, no additional information was added.
However, even in such cases I am unsure about closing them: someone may be able to identify the show even with little and generic information, or maybe the OP remembers the show and can answer it himself. So maybe these unclear and generic questions could be down-voted instead of closed since they are, in fact, bad questions.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: If you feel that there are more details missing from the question, and perhaps the OP didn't know he should include them, comment him about it.
If you feel that the question can absolutely not be answered because it lacks details, vote to close it as unclear. Putting a question on hold, editing to improve it, and then reopening it is a healthy process that beneficial to both the site and the user.
If you are confident you can answer it even though it's a bit vague, post your answer and comment for more details. Remember we aren't limited to one answer per question and not per user either.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: Text-only identification question are typically rely sole on the memory of the OP, which often times are unreliable (if it was, they'd remember it).
Give the OP sometime to better form their question. If the OP does't at least try to make an effort to give some details to narrow things down, then they probably don't really care if it is answered or not. After all you're taking your time to help them answer thier question.
While there are far less title to deal with in anime than in TV show and movies. Dealing with identification questions related to manga can sometimes be a huge hassle (especially with oneshots).
We can adopt something similar to TV & Movies.SE's [guidelines](https://movies.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic) (see "Identify-This-X Questions"):
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Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: We should clear up any confusion on the subject of what a good [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") should have.
An identification request should have as many of the following points as possible:
* Any description of the leading/recurring character(s) (i.e., physical description, behavioral, etc)
* Any description of any distinctive features (e.g., girls who a soda cans that do battle) or the setting
* What the genre or style was (e.g., mecha, sci-fi, fantasy, shonen, shoujo, seinen, etc)
* What the drawing/animation style is like
* When and where you saw it (If you saw it when you were a kid don't give you age, give the approximate year, and month if possible)
* Type of media: TV show, OVA, movie, manga, one-shot, etc
* Any image(s), audio, or video(s) related to the series
If your question has less than two of the the above mentioned, or the description given are deemed to be too ambiguous, it will be put on hold as "Unclear what you're asking." You should edit your question to add more details, before it can be reopen.
Upvotes: 2 |
2013/12/07 | 2,615 | 10,534 | <issue_start>username_0: In light of certain questions asking about content that may potentially violate the site's content policy on sexually explicit content (aural, written, and visual), should we impose a policy or restriction against these question or disallow them completely?
I personally don't see any long term advantages in allowing them, but I'm okay iwth it if we try to keep things from being too explicit. The only problem with such a solution is how to educate new user on what is and is not acceptable. The type of enforcement, in the long run, might be more trouble than it's worth.
Adding a [nsfw](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/nsfw "show questions tagged 'nsfw'") tag seems to be as counter-intuitive, much like the short-lived [spoiler](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/spoiler "show questions tagged 'spoiler'"). We might be able to use the spoiler tags in some way to cover up the images, but the fact of the matter is that the content still maybe sexually explicit.
So I ask the community, how do you think we should handle this matter?<issue_comment>username_1: Could be that the NSFW images be hidden in "spoiler" quotes blocks and inform the users that behind there's NSFW content. Is an idea.
Like this:
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Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: As far as I know, this site does not have a policy against posting of any sexually explicit content beyond the [Stack Exchange content policy](http://stackexchange.com/legal/content-policy), which states that:
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This is rather vague to me. Certainly, pornographic images or links are included, but it's not clear to me that written descriptions of sexually explicit events qualify in all cases. For example, I'd expect a textbook explanation of sexual intercourse would be allowed and on-topic on sites like [biology](https://biology.stackexchange.com/). Given that SE was willing to create a [sexuality site](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3303/sexuality), it's pretty clear that the policy isn't just "any mention of sex is against the rules". Exactly where the line is drawn is up to SE, but I'd assume that we want to be as lenient as possible on this while remaining compliant with the SE global requirements.
On the other hand, we've [already discussed](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/21/24) whether asking about Hentai is allowed, and the strong consensus was "yes, so long as it is done in a 'scientific' way". While that post is about whether the topic is allowed at all, the answers also suggest a particular policy for policing such content. Specifically, it could be inferred from the answers there that, so long as the question is written with "grown-up" mature language, it should be allowed. We've had a few good questions about hentai series as well.
So, in my opinion, *unless and until* we hear back from Stack Exchange directly for clarification on exactly what is covered by the content policy, we should proceed with allowing questions about sexually explicit material so long as the questions themselves are not sexually explicit. Questions which do not have pornographic images/audio/links and which use the most scientific language available when mentioning about sexual events should not be a problem in my view. For what it's worth, that seems to be the policy on [Movies & TV](https://movies.stackexchange.com/) as well as on the failed [Sexuality](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3303/sexuality) site. If a question fails to meet these (and can't be fixed by slight changes in language) it probably qualifies as spam/offensive and I'd think that in most cases having it deleted that way would be preferable to having moderators enforce the policy.
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In the interest of users here, it would be good if such posts generally have some sort of indication or warning so that users who do not want to see that content won't accidentally do so. I'm not proposing this as an official policy, but as a strong suggestion to askers. The warning could be in the title or at the top of the question, and could be as simple as e.g. including "hentai" in the title. Use of spoiler markup as suggested in username_1's answer is also probably a good idea.
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For [the question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/6191/hentai-identification-request) which lead to this meta post, in its current form I would say it is allowed, and actually a very good example of exactly how one should ask an ID-request question about a hentai series. The images (in their current form) are censored appropriately. The text uses the terms "fellatio" and "masturbate" rather than more vulgar equivalent slang terms. The title of the question has the word "hentai" which serves as a warning to anyone casually browsing the site. In its current state this should be unlocked. The history should also be wiped since that does contain images with nudity.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: It's pretty safe to define 'explicit' as any content that a normal user of the site would not want to be observed observing. It's content or links *to* content that you wouldn't want your spouse / children / parents walking in to find you viewing. In other words, it's offensive or *embarrasing* to the *average* user of the site.
***This is a subjective call, and always will be.*** If you find that you'd have to explain your browsing habits to someone looking over your shoulder, it *probably* crosses the line. If images we served in your browser cache could cause you to have to explain your Internet use to your I.T. department at work, we've got a problem.
We also allow anyone over 13 years of age to participate on any of our sites, and that's something that we ask people to keep in mind.
What I recommend is narrowing the discussion quite a bit. ***Should we allow questions about hentai, or not?*** *That* in and of itself alleviates you from needing to judge this as it's posted. If hentai is off-topic, then surely requests to identify it are also off-topic. Most questions that you get *[directly about hentai](https://anime.stackexchange.com/search?q=hentai)* seem to be identification requests.
You could just as easily allow the topic in general, but close or delete posts that make people feel uncomfortable, or would be likely to do so. However, that puts you in the very awkward position of:
* Judging them individually
* "Why was this one left but mine closed?"
That *may* be the way to go *if* it's worth the added toll of dealing with a few horrible questions every so often. If there's enough *good* that you can get out of hentai as a community, then just make sure to err on the side of caution when evaluating questions. If you think *this might be a little on the inappropriate side*, then it probably *is*, and at least needs editing.
I don't have enough knowledge of hentai, the culture around it and the appreciation of it as art - so I'm not well equipped to guide you there. Another CM will probably join in on the conversation.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_4: I agree mostly with [username_3's post](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/759/261) (lol), some things I'd like to point out:
I personally think we should permit:
* Discussion, plot (is there plot in that stuff?)
* Identification requests
But not allow
* Explicit links
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First of all, we want to avoid explicit **links** given our audience. Posting a link to such content is nearly the same as hosting that content here. A spoiler block wouldn't really help much.
However, I don't see a problem with discussion and identification requests (once again, avoiding explicit content links). The only way an user would be stumbling upon any kind of inappropiate material would be by doing an actual Google search for the subject, which is clearly none of our business.
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Regarding the usage of a [nsfw](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/nsfw "show questions tagged 'nsfw'") tag, it doesn't seem necessary to me if a question already has the [hentai](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/hentai "show questions tagged 'hentai'") tag.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_5: Allow me to list some Pros and Cons of each. the content, if accepted, would obviously need to be restricted. However, I will let others discuss on the How.
Allowing NSFW content
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**Pro**
* More users/questions
* Quality, Professional answers for NSFW questions
**Con**
* Risk being banned by some networks/filters for NSFW content
* Risk exposing some users to adult content
* Legal issues? (I know very little in the way of laws so someone else should verify this)
Prohibiting NSFW content
------------------------
**Pro**
* No worries about underage users, site blocking, etc.
* Users can have no worries about finding inappropriate material (ask/answer from work)
**Con**
* Users that really want an answer will have to look towards less reliable, potentially dangerous options
* Defining the line between acceptable and NSFW
Due to the nature of this answer, I suggest an up-vote means "Allow NSFW in some manner" and down-vote means "Prohibit all NSFW".
*NOTE*: This is intended to be a list of pros and cons for each option. If you would like to add to the list, feel free, but please refrain from offering suggestions on how it would be done. Instead, offer the suggestion as a separate answer and link it to your addition so it can be voted on based on its own merits.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_6: Until we hear otherwise from one of the CMs on an official stance, hentai questions and content will be allowed, with the following stipulations:
* All images, video, and audio are allowed as long as the content is not explicitly sexual or graphic in nature
* Descriptions may not include content that is explicitly sexual and/or graphic in nature
* Borderline content (e.g., panty, bikini shots with a bit too much skin showing) that is deemed questionable must be hidden in a spoiler markdown tag (`>!`)
* A **noticeable warning** of some type must be included within the body of the question to indicate that the material may be or is explicit/graphic.
Please leave a comment if you feel that anything has been missed and might cause potential issues.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer] |
2013/12/10 | 1,037 | 3,670 | <issue_start>username_0: We had [community ads](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/364/community-promotion-ads-on-the-se-network) on three network sites this past year, namely [Arqade](http://gaming.stackexchange.com), [Scifi](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/), and [Role-Playing Games](http://rpg.stackexchange.com). These refresh every year, so we'll need to post them again to any sites that we want them.
There are some meta questions we should answer regarding these. Last year, we more-or-less decided on these in [chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/anime-and-manga), but it's really more appropriate to hold the discussion on meta. Here are some examples:
* Do we want community ads? (Probably, but keep in mind that unlike a year ago, we aren't exactly having a hard time bringing in traffic now so we may not need them.)
* Which sites should we post community ads on? Which ads should we use on each of these sites?
* How many different ads should we have? (Last year we had several, but having too many may come off negatively)
* Are the existing ones from 2013 sufficient, or do we need to design new ones?
Feel free to post as an answer your ideas to any of the above questions or any suggested ads (new or recycled). The main goal of this meta post is to coordinate our promotional efforts via community ads in the network.
Here are the specifications for the ads (taken verbatim from the above post):
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### How does it work?
The answers you post to this question *must* conform to the following rules, or they will be ignored.
1. All answers should be in the exact form of:
```
[![Tagline to show on mouseover][1]][2]
[1]: http://image-url
[2]: http://clickthrough-url
```
Please **do not add anything else to the body of the post**. If you want to discuss something, do it in the comments.
2. The question must always be tagged with the magic [community-ads](/questions/tagged/community-ads "show questions tagged 'community-ads'") tag. In addition to enabling the functionality of the advertisements, this tag also pre-fills the answer form with the above required form.
### Image requirements
* The image that you create must be **220 x 250 pixels**
* Must be hosted through our standard image uploader (imgur)
* Must be GIF or PNG
* No animated GIFs
* Absolute limit on file size of 150 KB<issue_comment>username_1: [](https://anime.stackexchange.com/)
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_1: [](https://anime.stackexchange.com/)
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I've reposted the one we used on RPG.SE and two on Scifi since there were no complaints and no better suggestions for these sites. While we now have 7 ads that I know of, I didn't see much need to post more than that. The purpose of these ads is to make sure that regular Scifi/RPG users are aware of our site, not to flood their site in an attempt to bring in traffic (which we're doing pretty well on).
Click the ads for links to their respective posts. If you have an account on these sites I'd encourage you to vote for them so that other related SE communities will continue to be aware of us.
RPG:
[](https://rpg.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3222/community-promotion-ads-2014/3255#3255)
Scifi:
[](https://scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/a/3284/12014)
[](https://scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/a/3283/12014)
Upvotes: 1 |
2013/12/16 | 916 | 3,596 | <issue_start>username_0: The [reference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference "show questions tagged 'reference'") tag is, in my opinion, a pox upon Anime.SE.
* One cannot be an expert on "references". However, one can be an expert on some related topics:
+ Some references are Japan-cultural and can be tagged with [culture](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/culture "show questions tagged 'culture'"); some are puns/etc and can be tagged with [japanese-language](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/japanese-language "show questions tagged 'japanese-language'"). Both of these are topics on which we have experts.
+ Some references are to other franchises. For these, we have two options. If the asker knows what specific franchise is being referenced, the asker can tag that specific franchise. If not - well, we could tag it with hypothetical [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") or [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") tags, but this is an anime/manga site, so those are basically implied.
+ (Are there any other cases I'm missing?)
* This tag is bad for SEO. If it were used consistently in all questions that are about "references", I estimate we would have at least 40 questions with this tag, putting it in the top 8 tags on the site and thus swamping more interesting, franchise-related tags.
* This tag is "[meta-tag](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/08/the-death-of-meta-tags/)-like" ([which is bad](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/403/what-is-the-status-of-meta-tags)) - it cannot stand alone (and indeed, does not stand alone on any of the 19 questions in the [reference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference "show questions tagged 'reference'") tag so far).
I think we ought to do away with [reference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference "show questions tagged 'reference'"). Thoughts?
**EDIT (Dec 20):** Given that there is some support for removing [reference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference "show questions tagged 'reference'") and no opposition, I'm going to start going through the questions tagged [reference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference "show questions tagged 'reference'") and eliminating the tag (plus doing whatever other cleanup is necessary) at the rate of 2-3 a day (so as not to swamp the front page).<issue_comment>username_1: I don't see a need for such a tag. If you're looking for a reference within an episode for a series, all you really need is the series name. WE should also remove the [parody](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/parody "show questions tagged 'parody'") synonym, too.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: It feels somewhat unnecessary and too ambiguous/open-ended in terms of what it could cover on its own - as stated above, for identifying something within a series, the name itself (and maybe some additional tags, such as [japanese-language](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/japanese-language "show questions tagged 'japanese-language'") or [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'"), should be sufficient. Moreover it really does seem problematic as a meta-tag.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: [reference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/reference "show questions tagged 'reference'") has been slain.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer] |
2013/12/28 | 3,855 | 15,766 | <issue_start>username_0: Lately the quality of some [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions. with no sort of audio-visual artefacts (e.g. an image, video, or sound clip), have been very lacking in quality.
I believe it's time we set some minimum requirements for such questions. We can look at how other SE sites like [SciFi](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/tags/story-identification/info) and [Movies and TV](https://movies.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic) do it, or be like [Arqade](https://gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5128/revisiting-the-identify-this-game-ban) and forbid these "tip of my tongue" question that do not include some sort of audio-visual artefact. Additionally, if we ever decide on a policy, how will it affect older questions?
I don't want to necessarily discourage [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions. I just want to help improve current and future ones so they are more easily answered.<issue_comment>username_1: I agree that we need to up the level of these questions, not necessarily with audio/visuals, because usually a simple audio/visual is plenty to Google search and make the question too trivial.
I think some sort of minimal level of description, approximate year, drawing style, or something similar is needed.
In the case of older questions, we are not going to edit each of those, and possibly invalidate answers. Leave them as they are. If they are referenced by users or seen as an example to continue with low quality questions, us mods will lock on a one-by-one basis.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: My viewpoint is that many of the [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions coming in are bad questions, but few of them *need* to be closed. This is, in my opinion, the same viewpoint that JNat suggested in his answer [here](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/712).
Hence, IMO the first course of business should be to create an FAQ on meta regarding how to ask (and possibly answer) ID request questions well. This should be linked to in the help center and the tag wiki of [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'"). The guide should include all the common problems we observe with ID requests and what the best way is to write them. The point of this is that many users will not know what sort of information is useful and what is not, and the FAQ will help them discern that. If there is interest in this I am willing to write a first draft, but it should be a community effort. Once this is in place, any new ID requests which are clearly low-quality should be directed to this with a request to improve the content along the lines of those suggestions to give them the opportunity to improve.
If the suggestions are not implemented and the question continues to have some of these problems (as will unfortunately occur frequently no matter what), the question should be **downvoted**. Note that [negatively voted questions without answers will be deleted eventually](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/92006/184716) which means these will not be a sore thumb forever even if we don't close them. Furthermore, questions at -4 or lower won't show up on the main page. If a question is downvoted, it's clear that we don't see it as good content, so even if it sticks around it isn't as much of a broken window. Downvotes are *supposed* to be the primary form of quality control on SE sites, while close votes are reserved for questions that will not work in this format and flags for content that needs immediate attention. Thus, I think they are the right tool for dealing with most of this.
As for which questions should be closed, I think the existing close reasons are satisfactory once we interpret them properly. The ones that are most significant are **unclear what you're asking** and **too broad**; the other close reasons rarely apply and it's clear when they do.
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An identification question is **unclear** if it doesn't even approach reasonable English, and is incomprehensible. This is pretty obvious, but it seems to be more common for identification questions than other questions. Here's an example question that should be closed as unclear.
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> **What anime is this?**
>
>
> * Blue hair
> * Uses mecha
> * Lots of girls
> * Like Code Geass
>
>
> [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'")
>
>
>
I have no idea what that means, and neither would anyone else. You could guess what it means, but we're already playing one guessing game by accepting ID requests, and we don't need to have guessing games inside our guessing games. If you see a post with a comparable level of incomprehensibility, close it as **unclear what you're asking**. A comment asking the OP to clarify is also in order (and if they do the question should be reopened).
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A question is **too broad** when it admits many possible answers that can not be objectively distinguished in terms of quality or relevance in any way. In the context of ID questions, I propose that *any identification question which is satisfied by at least 2 unrelated anime/manga is too broad*. The reasoning here is that if there are two anime with those characteristics, in all likelihood there are at least a dozen. In the rare cases where there are 2 cases but they're easily distinguished and there are no others, you may be able to fix the question by asking for clarification, but 90% of the time questions with this level of detail are just too general.
To make this explicit, if you can think of 2 separate anime which satisfy the criteria required and you think there are more, you should vote to close the question as too broad. You should also leave a comment to the effect of "There are many anime which satisfy this description, such as [example 1](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example) and [example 2](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Example). Unless you can give more information we're not going to be able to definitively answer this. You might also want to look at [this guide](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/0) to see how you can improve your question" This will alert the OP that they need to improve and alert other close voters that the question really is too broad if they could not think of these examples themselves.
I'll give 2 examples to see how this can actually be a bit counterintuitive if you view close votes as a form of quality control.
1.
>
> **Looking for anime with a female ninja**
>
>
> I'm looking for an anime which I saw in an AMV. I can't find the AMV anymore but I watched it about a year ago. The anime had a female ninja as one of the main characters (at least a recurring character since the AMV had a lot of scenes with her). I think her hair was either blue or purple. It seemed to be a comedy anime by some of the scenes, and I didn't see a lot of action. Based on the art style it was probably made around or after 2000. Sorry, but that is all I can remember. Can you tell me what this anime is?
>
>
> [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'")
>
>
>
This question actually has the makings of a good question, but the OP's specifications just aren't unique enough to make it answerable. If they had asked about something a bit less generic we could have a chance at answering it, but right now the only possibility is that everyone posts their own guess which may or may not be correct. The OP has also gone through the motions of telling us about the location they saw it and the art style; unfortunately these don't help.
In fact, there are many which fit this bill: [2x2 Shinobuden](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja_Nonsense), [Himawari!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himawari!), [Kage Kara Mamoru!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kage_Kara_Mamoru!), [Kill Me Baby!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_Me_Baby), [Gintama](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gin_Tama), .... If you admit the possibility that one or more of the points in the description was slightly misremembered (e.g. hair color) then you have to admit more series as well like [Senran Kagura](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senran_Kagura), [Juubei-chan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubei-chan:_The_Ninja_Girl), and [Keroro Gunsou](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keroro_Gunso), and if Samurai characters are also allowed (which would be a common mistake) then the number at least doubles. These are just the examples I could come up with off the top of my head; others may be able to think of more.
In this case, the OP put some effort into the question, but it's just not answerable. We should close it to keep it from getting out of hand with lots of answers (all of which match the description), but I don't think there's any need to downvote. Downvotes are a signal that "you should put more effort into this", while closing means "this isn't going to work here." The two are not automatically related. In this case, more effort isn't possible. The OP has told us everything he remembers, but we just can't help. The best thing to do would be to redirect the OP to chat where we can tell them all the series we can come up with.
2.
Here's a contrasting case:
>
> **Help me find anime plz**
>
>
> I'm looking for this one anime it had girls who were actually juice cans. Thx
>
>
> [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'")
>
>
>
This is clearly a poorly written question, and the OP put very little effort into it. However, as far as I know, it only matches one anime: [Akikan!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akikan!). So this *isn't* too broad; in fact it is an answerable question (assuming there are no other anime with girls who were actually juice cans). In this case, you'd be very justified downvoting the question (and commenting to link them to the aforementioned proposed FAQ) but the question does not need to be closed because we can answer it fairly definitively.
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You will notice that I've said nothing about descriptions which don't seem to match any series. In these cases, assuming the OP hasn't made a mistake, they aren't solely to blame for us not being able to answer. Not that we'll be able to answer every question even if we try, but we shouldn't penalize the OP for the fact that we don't know the anime they're referencing.
In these cases, you should comment requesting more information if you think it would be helpful to others. If the question is written in a way that you're sure you would remember the series if you had seen it, it's probably a good question that you just don't know the answer to (which happens to all of us). Some examples of questions like this for me are <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/6396/what-is-this-80s-anime-involving-three-differently-sized-robots-that-can-combine> and [Manga involving indirect kiss through icecream](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2684/manga-involving-indirect-kiss-through-icecream). The right course of action for these questions is to ignore them or possibly upvote them.
If the data included seems incomplete and you think that you would have trouble remembering the series even if you had watched it (e.g. the only information included was about a side-story or minor character) then you may want to ask for more info. A question that was like that for me is <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/5802/looking-for-a-manga-with-the-quote-whisper-sincerely-the-words>, since it's not clear to me how significant that quote is. (In this case the OP provided all the info they could after such a request was made, though it was in a comment.)
I don't believe that either of the above cases justifies closing the question. Voting is of course up to the individual and downvotes may be justified, but closing the question because we can't think of anything seems unfair considering we wouldn't close even the hardest non-ID questions about the most obscure series unless they had other problems.
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Downvoting bad questions more will clean up the bad questions eventually, but it's reasonable to ask if there's anything we can do sooner to deal with these. I don't believe we'll ever be able to get rid of bad ID questions completely. So long as we continue to be a place that accepts ID requests, that is going to be a big part of what people use the site for. It's by far the most common kind of question most people have with regards to anime. They're not the best questions or the ones that will bring in traffic, and in many cases they're really more like low-hanging fruit (which admittedly has its uses e.g. for new members to build up rep answering easy questions), but they do serve a purpose of helping the anime community.
One measure we could take is requiring all users to create an account to ask questions. That already exists on some other sites. This minimal amount of effort will put off the most lazy askers. The other benefit of this is that a lot of unregistered users try to come back later when we ask for clarification. They often have to do so with a different account. We can still tell based on the identicon that it's the same user but they don't have the ability to edit their question or comment on it. That can make these questions a pain to moderate.
However, it'll also put off a small number of people who *are* asking good questions. I'm not sure if the tradeoff is worth it considering that our biggest problem IMO is that our user base is still very small. Making it tag-specific might help (if this is possible), but people might also cheat and just use a different tag. This is a somewhat serious measure and if we want to consider it further I think a separate discussion is warranted.
We could also impose restrictions on what sorts of questions should be allowed. This is a bit problematic though in that it will always get rid of some questions where the OP has put in effort and just doesn't know the information required. I don't think we should stop people from asking well-written answerable questions simply because they don't know e.g. what decade the anime was from. This sort of meta-data *should* be recommended in the FAQ, but *should not* be part of what is required for the question. Unless these questions are literally unanswerable because the information given is too generic or the question is incomprehensible, we should not close them, since that's not what close votes are intended for. Downvoting is fine though if you think the question is low quality and no effort was put into it, which would fit many questions where the OP does not include any sort of meta information about when they watched it or the art style.
Other than that, I don't think we *can* do anything short of banning this class of questions entirely. If we do that, most of them would just end up on other sites anyway, potentially losing us some good questions and users. In my opinion this is not yet justified. If we write an FAQ, begin downvoting bad ID questions more aggressively, and still find that we're swamped by these low quality ID requests, at that point we should reconsider whether banning these is worthwhile.
Upvotes: 3 |
2013/12/30 | 857 | 2,864 | <issue_start>username_0: Now that we've made it past the one year mark, lets take sometime and consider if we should have a fancier name for our [main chatroom](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/).
The [previous post](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/192/what-should-we-call-our-chat-room) from over a year ago favored, the generic "Anime and Manga Chat" name as the name. I personally think we should come up with something unique like what the other SE sites have done, but I'll leave the ultimate decision up to the community. Do we want a (cool) new name for our main chat room?
If you're interested in proposing a new name, post a answer to this question that includes:
* The suggested **name** (possibly explain why that name).
* A **description** of the room (feel free to add any tags you feel are relevant -- it doesn't matter if they currently exist or not).
* An **explanation** is optional, but it will help other understand your intent.
As ["A" wise person](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/users/15/alenanno) once said:
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><issue_comment>username_1: I've mentioned this several times in the chat. But to make it official:
How about: [**"The Maid Cafe"**](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maid_caf%C3%A9)
It's not very original, but:
* It's short.
* Easy to remember.
* Representative of the culture.
* Has a fairly minimal risk of offending anybody.
I don't have any ideas for a description though. Feel free to make a suggestion.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: **Name:** Anime & Manga Chat
**Description:** General discussion for anime.stackexchange.com. Discuss your favorite character, theories, and series. Ask or give recommendations. Nothing related to the subject of anime and manga is off-topic here.
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This is the current name/description of the chatroom. Upvote (or downvote) this post if you want (resp. don't want) to keep the chatroom name/description the same.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_3: **Name:** MADHouse (**M**anga and **A**nime **D**iscussion **House**)
**Description:** Your one-stop studio for parodying and reliving as your favorite anime/manga characters. Y U NO MAD?
**References:**
* [Madhouse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhouse_%28company%29)
* [MAD](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/mad)
* [Y U NO](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/y-u-no-guy)
* [Yuno](https://i.stack.imgur.com/QSQRb.png)
* [nomad](https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/nomad)
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_4: **Name**: <NAME>
**Reference**:
* "A coffee shop used as a location for TYPE-MOON metafiction, involving the Fate, Tsukihime, and Kara no Kyoukai worlds." -- from [Type Moon Wiki](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Ahnenerbe).
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2014/01/03 | 1,468 | 5,805 | <issue_start>username_0: The closing of this [Where can I find spanish subtitles for Dragon Ball legally?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/6703/where-can-i-find-spanish-subtitles-for-dragon-ball) question suggests that unofficial subtitles are illegal.
Is this true?<issue_comment>username_1: Translation is considered a "derivative work" and those can only be made by the copyright owner of the original work. Rights to create derivative works can be sold/given/granted to others at the whim of the copyright owner of the original work.
* <http://www.technollama.co.uk/are-fan-translations-an-infringement-of-copyright>
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Some countries may not honor international copyright law, but most places do and the copyright on derivative works apply internationally.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Briefly:
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Subtitles are treated much like movie scripts by most video industries, that is - either downloading user-generated or official subtitles without the copyright holder's consent is subject to intellectual property rights.
Previous Cases:
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This said, there haven't been many arrests for people distributing subtitles, the main target of the companies are to prevent copies of video from being illegally distributed.
There have been a couple of arrests though, in countries such as Norway, Israel & France.
* [NorSub](http://extratorrent.cc/article/2220/subtitles+might+be+illegal.html), a site for Norwegian subtitles had to cease operating after a court case from film distributors in the U.S.
* [Warner](http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-action-closes-yet-more-fansub-sites-090301/) sues several different subtitling sites
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Most countries are signatories of the [Berne Convention](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention_for_the_Protection_of_Literary_and_Artistic_Works), Which in a nutshell, means that national copyright laws apply in international areas for that work:
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<NAME>, founder of Sweden’s Pirate Party has voiced his support for fan made subtitles. On his website he writes:
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2014/01/05 | 618 | 2,422 | <issue_start>username_0: [Quite awhile ago](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/27/what-do-we-do-with-questions-about-future-events-releases), I asked the question <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3372/will-there-be-a-continuation-of-sword-art-online> and recently the answer to this question came available and was wondering:
* *How should we treat questions that ask about future unannounced events?*
* *And if allowed, how broad (in terms of timeframe) should we allow these questions to be ?*
Another example would be: <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/5398/new-dragon-ball-z-series><issue_comment>username_1: I think questions about future series should be categorized as off-topic.
One cannot absolutely base an answer off of time since the series ended. For example, it is possible a series with a large fanbase could have an addition series release 7/8 years later.
One could estimate an answer basing off the content left to cover if the show is based off a manga/light novel, such as Sword Art Online and perhaps with a combination of ratings and popularity thrown in. However, no-one apart from the people involved in the process is going to know much.
Often details of future events can be rumours or there can be cancellations, so answers can be based off of volatile information.
The problem is that there are some questions that ARE answerable, that we will miss out on if we close all these questions. But I think the benefits of these few questions being answered are highly outweighted by lots of unanswerable or volatile questions.
I suggest, much like @GraceNote's post on [What do we do with questions about future events/releases?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/27/what-do-we-do-with-questions-about-future-events-releases) back in '12, that we leave future events to new sources such as ANN or Crunchyroll.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: When a question about the occurence of a future event is asked. Only one of two outcomes is possible:
* Either the event does not happen, then the question will never have a definite answer, and as such, is not answerable.
* Or the event does happen, then the question loses its usefulness (because it's like asking "Will the world end in 2012?", not very effective, is it?)
As such, question regarding future unannounced events should (still) be treated as off-topic.
Upvotes: 3 |
2014/01/20 | 1,533 | 6,116 | <issue_start>username_0: We discussed this before at [Are "anime-physics" questions a good fit for our site?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/541/are-anime-physics-questions-a-good-fit-for-our-site). There I answered that [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'") isn't a very good tag in my opinion. This is a followup to that with the intent to either clarify or delete the tag.
[anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'") is, in my opinion, very vague. It seems to deal with almost any in-universe mechanics for any series, as well as certain tropes which exist in multiple universes (see e.g. [this page](http://www.cs.utah.edu/~duongsaa/more_htm/jk_100animeRules.htm)). The [tag wiki](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics) seems to me to imply it's for this latter category, in which case I think it's entirely covered by [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'"), but a lot of the current questions in the tag don't fit that. I don't really know when I'm supposed to apply it. I don't understand why [Why is Steins Gate in the Beta Attractor Field?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/6876/why-is-steins-gate-in-the-beta-attractor-field) isn't tagged with it, but [Why do some anime characters never grow old?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/6854/why-do-some-anime-characters-never-grow-old) is.
To me it seems like a meta tag. I can't imagine anyone actually being an expert on anime physics, at least as broadly as it's being defined here. It has all the problems of [character-abilities](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/character-abilities "show questions tagged 'character-abilities'") which we removed earlier for much the same reason.
Should we remove this tag? If it is going to stay, what objective criteria can be used to make the tag clear, useful, not a meta tag, and not a duplicate of [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'")?<issue_comment>username_1: I can see reasons for removing as well as for keeping. If it were up to me, I see no *harm* in keeping the tag. Given Logan's comment, removing is probably the better option.
Reasons to Keep
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* Users that like questions about a certain anime, but do not like questions that would fall under the "anime-physics" realm can easily ignore those ones.
* Users that like thinking about the mechanics behind things could enjoy these questions, regardless of where they come from (and maybe even find some new anime/manga in the process)
Reasons to Remove
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* Many of these questions are within the realm of their respective series, so just the anime/manga name should be sufficient
* Those that go beyond one show fall under the tag [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'")
* When used with a tag of lesser popularity, this tag will take over and be appended to the title
I also want to discuss the claim that having an anime-physics expert is unlikely. While it is unlikely that any user could be an expert on all [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'"), it is also unlikely for a user to be an expert on all [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'") or [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'"). Of the three, I think anime-physics is probably the most likely to master. After all, the question is asking how a mechanic could work using the known laws of physics while also including any sorts of special cases (i.e. magic)
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Quite frankly, I have no idea what "anime physics" even is. Unless someone can provide a good definition of what things are and are not covered by the [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'") tag, the lack of a solid definition for the topic is reason enough to do away with it.
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Regarding username_1's discussion of being an expert on various things (which I would comment on, but this is a bit long for a comment):
* [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") - you're right, one cannot be an expert on "identification requests". As long as we allow questions on the topic, though, we kind of have no choice but to allow this tag as an exception.
* [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'") - I think one can, in fact, be an expert on "tropes". This expertise comes from wide-ranging experience consuming anime and related media, and understanding what commonalities exist in many different anime, and why they exist. This is, admittedly, a bit difficult to characterize, but I think we can agree that somebody who has watched a lot of anime understands why the protagonist sits in the back row by the window, or what the "anime sweatdrop" means, or whatnot.
* [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'") - until I know what this actually means, I have no idea whether or not one can be an expert on it.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: The consensus seemed to be strongly in favor of removing [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'"), and I haven't heard any strong opposition to this or attempted clarifications of the tag's purpose and scope. Hence, I've removed it from all questions that had the tag. The tag should be removed from the system within 24 hours.
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer] |
2014/01/24 | 1,441 | 5,902 | <issue_start>username_0: The help center's [on-topic page](https://anime.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic) is supposed to tell new users what they can and can't ask about, and when we close a question as off-topic it should typically be citing this page rather than any meta discussions. Currently, there's no mention of the fact that [unannounced future events are off-topic](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/800/2014-edition-how-should-we-treat-questions-regarding-future-unannounced-events). There's a strong consensus in favor of this ban, for the essential reason that we're a fan Q&A site rather than a news source.
Questions of this type are actually quite common; enough that [JNat proposed a close reason](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/664/24) for them (not yet implemented, though we've had a number of questions closed for this reason in the past few months). Currently, when closing these questions, we have to direct users to one of the meta discussions where this policy was established, which is not at all ideal. Meta discussions like this are often hard to read and should never be the primary way of communicating the policy to new users. It also serves as a surprise to those new users who *do* read the help page and don't see this, only to have their question closed. This happened at <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/7013/will-there-be-a-third-season-of-sekirei> and possibly elsewhere.
In order to better communicate this policy, a line should be added to the help center's off topic list. Something like:
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If this is not clear enough, we should also make a meta [faq](/questions/tagged/faq "show questions tagged 'faq'") question addressing the subtleties and link to that from the help center. I don't think this is necessary presently since the policy isn't terribly complicated.<issue_comment>username_1: I can see reasons for removing as well as for keeping. If it were up to me, I see no *harm* in keeping the tag. Given Logan's comment, removing is probably the better option.
Reasons to Keep
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* Users that like questions about a certain anime, but do not like questions that would fall under the "anime-physics" realm can easily ignore those ones.
* Users that like thinking about the mechanics behind things could enjoy these questions, regardless of where they come from (and maybe even find some new anime/manga in the process)
Reasons to Remove
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* Many of these questions are within the realm of their respective series, so just the anime/manga name should be sufficient
* Those that go beyond one show fall under the tag [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'")
* When used with a tag of lesser popularity, this tag will take over and be appended to the title
I also want to discuss the claim that having an anime-physics expert is unlikely. While it is unlikely that any user could be an expert on all [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'"), it is also unlikely for a user to be an expert on all [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'") or [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'"). Of the three, I think anime-physics is probably the most likely to master. After all, the question is asking how a mechanic could work using the known laws of physics while also including any sorts of special cases (i.e. magic)
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Quite frankly, I have no idea what "anime physics" even is. Unless someone can provide a good definition of what things are and are not covered by the [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'") tag, the lack of a solid definition for the topic is reason enough to do away with it.
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Regarding username_1's discussion of being an expert on various things (which I would comment on, but this is a bit long for a comment):
* [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") - you're right, one cannot be an expert on "identification requests". As long as we allow questions on the topic, though, we kind of have no choice but to allow this tag as an exception.
* [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'") - I think one can, in fact, be an expert on "tropes". This expertise comes from wide-ranging experience consuming anime and related media, and understanding what commonalities exist in many different anime, and why they exist. This is, admittedly, a bit difficult to characterize, but I think we can agree that somebody who has watched a lot of anime understands why the protagonist sits in the back row by the window, or what the "anime sweatdrop" means, or whatnot.
* [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'") - until I know what this actually means, I have no idea whether or not one can be an expert on it.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: The consensus seemed to be strongly in favor of removing [anime-physics](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-physics "show questions tagged 'anime-physics'"), and I haven't heard any strong opposition to this or attempted clarifications of the tag's purpose and scope. Hence, I've removed it from all questions that had the tag. The tag should be removed from the system within 24 hours.
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer] |
2014/02/18 | 1,871 | 6,708 | <issue_start>username_0: We just got [a question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/7572/will-there-be-a-second-season-of-rwby) on [rwby](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/rwby "show questions tagged 'rwby'") (cf. [Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RWBY)). Is RWBY on-topic?
Relevant facts:
* RWBY is not anime, because it is not Japanese.
* RWBY is (or claims to be?) inspired by and/or patterned after anime.
* We accept questions on [avatar](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/avatar "show questions tagged 'avatar'"), which seems similar to RWBY as far as "anime-ness" goes.
* There was an old [meta thread](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1/is-animation-or-comics-inspired-by-japanese-culture-or-styles-considered-on-topi) on this topic. It is not authoritative, but it does contain some opinions that may be of interest.
* There was also a more recent [meta thread](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/415/should-we-expand-our-scope) that has a very good breakdown of the issue by LoganM.
Having never seen RWBY, I have no opinion on this matter myself.<issue_comment>username_1: I skimmed the [trailer](http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?sid=rwby&v=more) for it and would say that it should qualify as on topic.
The characters are pretty anime-poi.. most of the time. The backgrounds are not, and reminds me of samurai jack, but then it's a web series, and I'd say the style has to do more with production constraints.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I think it should be counted as on topic.
Right now we are also accepting close to manga things such as Manwha/ Korean web strips.
I think anime like and anime inspired series should be allowed aswell.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: I think the fact that it's in the anime section of Crunchyroll and is anime-styled, like Avatar means that it should on topic.
If you didn't know it was an American production, it'd be a pretty safe guess to say it'd originate from Japan, whereas many other Western animations are easier separated visually.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_4: It's hard to say whether or not RWBY is on topic for the site by definition alone. The series itself is very derivative of anime culture, but it stands out on it's own as a genre... in the West at least.
If anything I think we should count it like a self-published work similar to doujinshi works from Japan. Now I'm not saying or claiming RWBY is doujinshi (a self-published work). While it's unique on it's own being the first published web series of it's kind by an American production company, it like the many forms of self-made doujinshi content from Japan, RWBY was made and developed by fans of the subculture just like Touhou and Vocaloid developed in Japan.
We mustn't necessarily dismiss RWBY or works like it as "not anime" simply because it's not from Japan. Sure, in a purely technical sense RWBY is not anime because it doesn't come from Japan. This doesn't mean that it can't become a part of the subculture because it's not from Japan. The subculture has become what it is today not solely, because of Japan (although it is responsible from much of the content) fans from all over the world have made anime what it is today by talking, sharing, parodying, and creating their own content. Some do it by emulation, while others use it for inspiration. It's thanks to the fans anime has become what it is today. Much like sports, it'll never get anywhere without it fans.
RWBY may see cheesy and "unanime-like" at first, but people worked hard on it -- let it grow and develop, perfection is an art yet to be mastered by people. We're already in agreement that doujinshi is [on-topic for this site](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/267/63). So instead of arguing whether or not it's anime in a technical sense, why not give RWBY a chance and see if it belongs in the culture? If it's something we like we can keep it, if it's not what we wanted we can shelve it. Don't just think about anime and manga just by where it's from or who it's by, think about anime and manga as a culture. While opinions may vary, it the voice of the community as a whole that determines it's culture.
***tl;dr* Let's see RWBY for the culture it represents not where it's from and see how it goes from there.**
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: I'll post up what i have researched, it should be noted that this is incomplete as i tried to limit spoilers as i have yet to see the series (it has been bumped up on my "to watch" list to be watched after Katanagateri)
RWYB is sold in Australia by anime distributor Hanabee, that being said, Hanabee also sells Red VS Blue which is another production by <NAME> which is clearly not anime however RWYB is also simulcasted on Crunchyroll which is focused on streaming East Asian media including anime, manga, drama, music, electronic entertainment, and auto racing content but i don't watch Crunchyroll so i have no idea what other exceptions they have made.
Now to quote [Logan M's Post](http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/13900620#13900620) in the [Maid Café (メイド喫茶)](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/maid-cafe-)
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Thing brings up a very good point, if we look ad Anime as a media then we can only accept animated series made in japan which means [Avatar: The Last Airbender/The Legend of Aang](https://anime.stackexchange.com/tags/avatar/info) and [The Legend of Korra](https://anime.stackexchange.com/tags/avatar-legend-of-korra/info) shouldn't be accepted anymore.
But if we look at Anime as a subculture then we can accept Avatar cause it contains the same feel that an anime carries, ofcause purests would disagree to that. [The Boondocks](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boondocks_%28TV_series%29) on the other hand looks like anime, both the comic strip and the cartoon were influenced by the creators love of anime and manga and Huey has fantasies which seem quite reminiscent of Afro Samurai (at least from the few episodes i saw), doesn't have the same feel as what Avatar has.
[Appleseed](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appleseed_%28film%29) which is anime doesn't the same visual style as we normally associate with however it does have that feel which shows that the visual styles is not what make an anime feel like an anime. in RWBY's case it does have that feel of it being an anime (from what i've seen in the trailers) so in my opinion i do believe it should be on topic.
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2014/02/19 | 1,455 | 6,505 | <issue_start>username_0: Lately I feel that the quality of [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions has waned significantly. These most of these tip-of-my-tongue are without audio-visual artifacts, and rely solely on the asker's memories which are more often than not very unreliable.
I would like to ask the community's help on deciding whether we should creating hard guidelines for what these types of questions or eliminate them all together.
I present to you two options:
Option A: Set Guidelines
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If we wish to keep that that we **MUST** implement and enforce some set of criteria to ensure that there is sufficient information to go on to be able to identify a series.
We should clear up any confusion on the subject of what a good [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") should have. This would be added to the help center for visibility and reference. An example of a set of guidelines would be something like this:
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> * What the drawing/animation style is like
> * When and where you saw it (If you saw it when you were a kid don't give you age, give the approximate year, and month if possible)
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As for disallowing [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions, I don't think we should needlessly disallow ALL such questions. Instead we can limit these questions to only those with some sort of visual-audio artifact component (in addition to images and clips of video and audio, rough sketches/graphics are acceptable).
Option C: Disallow all future [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions
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This option involves not allowing [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions on this site and closing currently unanswered questions.
If you have another idea please feel free to leave a suggestion as answer.<issue_comment>username_1: **Option A**: Keep them but QC the questions! (Final guidelines to proposals to be voted on in another meta)
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_1: **Option B:** Save the the ones we can see and hear. (Only questions with audio-viusal artifacts will stay and be allowed.)
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_1: **Option C**: Close all [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions! They'll be off-limits from now on!
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: **Option A'**: Implement more stringent quality control on these questions primarily with *downvotes*, not *close votes*.
Yes, we need some quality control on this front. However, the intended way to deal with a poor question on SE sites is downvotes. Close votes should be reserved for questions that just won't work in our format, not ones that are probably answerable but low quality. I wrote [an expansive answer](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/792/24) explaining the difference on a related question and when to do what.
This may seem contradictory to [Downvoting new users whose questions don't meet our criteria](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/437/downvoting-new-users-whose-questions-dont-meet-our-criteria), but it's really a different issue. That was a case of a decent question that needed to be closed because it's off topic and not something we cover, but didn't need to be heavily downvoted since it wasn't unclear or low-effort and the policy was (at the time) fairly obscure. Bad ID requests are on topic and answerable, but low quality/effort. They should be downvoted but not typically closed unless they fail some other criterion for closing.
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For this to work, we actually have to have users willing to downvote stuff. That seems like a limiting factor right now for whatever reason, but I'd encourage everyone to be more liberal with downvotes when you think they're justified (not just in the case of ID requests). I've seen many questions and answers that I considered poor despite many upvotes. Starting now, I intend to downvote these whenever I see them, not just when I consider it to be obviously wrong or problematic.
We also need me (or someone else willing) to write some sort of [faq](/questions/tagged/faq "show questions tagged 'faq'") for new users who want to understand how to ask a good ID request. I've been planning on doing this for a while (as my linked answer above says), but I've lost one nearly complete draft and some other stuff came up that diverted my attention. I will hopefully be able to do it this weekend, but if someone else wants to take it off my hands then feel free to offer.
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2014/02/26 | 4,546 | 14,799 | <issue_start>username_0: For the inevitable launch of our site community we need to come up with a mascot design to help us promote ourselves.
To the community, I'd like to ask you to share your ideas on what kind of mascot would best promote and represent and promote community.
They can be just about anything, lolis, chibis, robots, animals, ships, etc. Be creative and try you best at creating a new, original concept. It doesn't matter if you can draw or not, even a description is fine.
Please try to follow this format when proposing an mascot:
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The top voted mascot suggestion may be commissioned into a work for the our site launch.
Try to keep things safe for work and do your best for the future of our community!
I'm looking forward to what everyone has to offer!<issue_comment>username_1: **Name:** Hina-Chan
*Appearance:* [Vegetable green hair](http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa227/Kyouki-chan93/GreenHair.jpg) *(Na in Hina can mean vegtables/greens)*, Purpelish eyes *(like in the picture before)* , about the size of [Squid Girl](http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2011/007/2/b/squid_girl_by_sykeone-d36ma1v.jpg)
*Personality:* She has a radiant personality *(Another play on the name Hi can mean day/sun)*, always willing to help people. Always looking happy and ready to cheer you up. And very Adventurous/Curious.
*Background:* As she is not that old yet she sees every day as an adventure. Whenever possible she try's to learn new things, try new things out in her world wide exploration. Trying to turn everything into a Adventure.
**Charm Points:** Due to her bright personality, and curiosity she makes for a good hyper active cheery and adventurous girl (although this sometimes is quite tiring)
She is always trying to learn/find out new things.
She also is kind of clumsy at times, causing some of her adventures to be off short duration.
**Other:**
[*Blood type:* B](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_types_in_Japanese_culture)
*Hobbies:* Discovering new things, Going on trips.
*Family:* Family consists of her Father and Mother, And the last 4 years a Nephew also lived with them
Her mother is a Model for a swimsuit magazine, which often forces her to travel the globe. Hina joins her on these trips whenever she can
Her father runs a local local book store, selling all kinds of rare and antique books. Which Hina some times secretly reads through to find certain 'Treasure maps'
Her nephew is 3 years younger then her and often goes with her whens he goes out Exploring/adventuring. Due to him being younger he most often can't keep up and hurts himself somehow, making the duo return early from their adventures
*Favorite food:* Hina is a huge sweet tooth, with her favorites being [Pocky](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Us-pocky.jpg) and [Botan rice candy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botan_Rice_Candy)
*Least Favorite food:* Hina dislike's vegtables, and all foods that look green.
*Favorite book:* [Artemis fowl](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_Fowl_%28series%29), She also is trying to find a Fairy to extort gold from using Artemis as a guide to do so.
*Favorite Manga/anime:* One piece, she likes how they are searching for a huge treasure while adventuring to do so.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: **Name:** Ai-chan
**Description:** Highschool detective. Carries a magnifying glass wherever she goes and determined to find out answers to all of Anime & Manga Stack Exchange's questions!
Having moved on from simple highschool mysteries, Ai now works as professional sleuth and tries to solve all of A&M's puzzling questions. She's still a highschool student though, so she mightn't get all of them ^^;
Raggedy hazelnut hair and wears a pale blue sailor fuku uniform (could have a summer version also).
When she's not solving mysteries, you can find Ai unwinding with a good light novel/manga on the sofa.
**Charm Point**: Very enthusiastic about finding answers and always tries her hardest. She gets very upset when she can't find an answer to a question (it's cute though).
When stuck on a particularly hard mystery, Ai scrunches her face up in intense consentration until she has a vivid realisation. I can imagine an exclamation mark over her head when she finds a solution
**Blood Type**: A
**Age**: 17
**Star Sign**: Gemini
**Favourite Anime/Manga:** Lupin III
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: ***Se*iko-chan** (惺子), 18 years old, high-school student. (*name roughly means "sincere child"*)
She's knowledgeable, kind, honest, helping and straightforward. And good-looking, of course.
Seiko-chan represents the greatness of StackExchange community, and, in their turn, users are inspired to become great like her.
She loves experiencing various emotions the world of anime and manga can offer through inspiring adventures, fantasy, dramas; alluring romance, ero-manga; light-hearted comedy, slice of life; more serious seinen and josei, sci-fi, sports, and whatnot.
Seiko-chan's **favorite drink** is tea. Different kinds of tea, which perfectly fit the mood and allow for best entertainment experience.
She also enjoys cosplay and has some friends who share her infatuations.
Anime and manga just happen to be one of her main interests in entertainment. And so this is for many users, so don't forget to join [the Chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/) for some on- and off-topic discussion!
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*[end of cool part]*
Forgive me if I messed up with the Japanese, for I am lvl 1 in it.
If anything, I'd go with Shaft's art style for realistic proportions, attractive body figure and serious, yet adventurous feeling. Along the lines of Hanekawa Tsubasa of Monogatari series.
I imagine it would be pretty awesome to have a random rotation of header backgrounds of Seiko-chan with various cups of tea, reading some manga or watching anime, if anyone is up to the task of drawing them.
Seiko-chan's friends could partake in her cosplay parties, parodying famous scenes and characters in the site's header and footer.
I'm opposed to cliche mascot characters with standard trademark elements, and StackExchange deserves much better. Which is why I thought of the above. Feel free to be inspired by this thought, and create your own unique proposition worthy of this site.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_4: **Name: Dexter**
Info: A very skilled warrior. Very kind but can be annoying at times and thrives to become the best of the best though perseverance and love. Can be clumsy but that is what makes Dexter, Dexter. Also very talkative!
**Relations:**
<NAME>- His nannie: )
<NAME>- His Aunty : )
Best friends- Jamie and Shawn
Mum + Dad- Raiko + Tress
Hobbies: Enjoys eating, sleeping, having fun, being with family and fighting bad guys and loves to be a rebel to his principal.
**Age- 15**
Fav foods- He says 'gotta be everything'
Inspiration: @miharu-dante.
Fav anime: Full Metal Alchemist; Fairy Tail
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Professions: Warrior/Mage and Sorceress
Strength: 3/5 Still needs training though
School: Capital Bay School for the Magic Arts
Best spell: Dazled Fury
Graduation Status: Not yet
Charm point: Loves to say "my time is now" and has a very bad history with lady's as he always goes awkward around them.
**Dexter says to pick him for Mascot. Working on an image to for him too. Not good at drawing though : )**
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_5: **Names**: Azeru-kun (♂) and Aseko-chan (♀)
**Description**:
Azeru-kun and Aseko-chan are the fraternal twin ambassadors of Anime.SE. Azeru-kun is smart and reserved, he is very good at logical deductions and enjoys detective manga. Aseko-chan is a natural-born leader, she is a natural at any sports and likes adventure anime. Azeru-kun enjoys [sharp and deep conversations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/) and prefers to [settle arguments with negotiation](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/review) (though he usually ends up failing to do so), while Aseko-chan is [much more chatty](http://chat.stackexchange.com/) and [is quick to use her fists on arguments](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banhammer) (to the annoyance of her brother).
Despite their personalities being almost exact opposite and despite their frequent fights, they are always very close with each other.
**Charm Point**:
Azeru-kun wears a diamond-shaped pendant (♦) and Aseko-chan wears a diamond-shaped hair clip (♦).
**Best friends**:
* [Doraemon](https://www.animenewsnetwork.co.uk/news/2008-03-14/doraemon-to-be-japan-first-anime-ambassador): Japan's Anime ambassador
* [The Unicorn](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/122026/what-is-unicorn-on-stack-overflow): Meta ambassador
**Rivals**:
* [That noisy twins](http://www.google.com/search?q=kagamine%20twins&tbm=isch): they envy them since they are terrible singers
* [Sakamoto](http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/12178567#12178567)
**Azeru**
* Favorite genres: detective, shoujo, mecha, slice-of-life
* Likes: reading manga, [the Hiitachins](http://www.google.com/search?q=the%20hitachiin&tbm=isch) (he admires them as he thinks he's a gentlemen like them)
* Dislikes: [red graffiti](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/19775/148108), cosplay, singing, his twin sister
* [180-degree](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/180-degree_rule): Left
**Aseko**
* Favorite genres: adventures, shounen, sports, horror
* Likes: her twin brother, watching anime, [red markers](https://meta.stackexchange.com/a/19775/148108), putting costumes on Azeru
* Dislikes: singing, [the Hiitachins](http://www.google.com/search?q=the%20hitachiin&tbm=isch) (they creep her out)
* [180-degree](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/180-degree_rule): Right
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I know zero Japanese, so I picked a Japanese-sounding name that somewhat rhymes with A.SE. If they turn out to mean something offensive, I apologize in advance, any suggestions are welcome.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_6: **Name**: Sakamoto (Type Unicorn)
**Description**: Sakamoto is one of the the most charming unicorn you will ever see. While our site has meidos and lolis (also waifus), there's severe lack of unicorns. Unicorns have been a popular subject across many SE sites and SE meta memes.
Sakamoto is the gear that makes things turn, he digs through old questions and bumps up unanswered questions that have been buried under the sands of time. He sifts through the flags and delivers them to the moderators. He keeps tally on upvotes and downvotes. He the one responsible to compiling organizing the review queues, writing the labels to the tags and making sure the feeds arrive on time! He gives it his all so visitors from around the world can have a good time on this site! He's the one that gets things done behind the scenes!
*Design not final. May be subject to change. In case you are wondering where the original archetype comes from, this is the [unicorn](http://genesis-horizon.wikia.com/wiki/Unicorn) from 'The Horizon In the Middle of Nowhere' series. (I have yet to figure out an original design for him, so this serves as a placeholder for now.)*
**Charm Point**: Sakamoto's charm lies in this simple, nondescript design. There's enough detail for a shape, but not too much detail to bog him down. This makes him easy to draw and be reproduced by others. His uses his magical horn (which doubles as a drill, a "giga-drill") to get things done around the site since he technically has no hands. While it doesn't seem like it, Sakamoto can actually fly thanks to his magical tail, which is actually a harisen.
He's round like [Bubbles](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/10/meet-bubbles/), the official SE mascot, but he's not flat, instead he's like fluffy and soft to touch, like a dango. He has little-bitty feet that go "clop-clop-clop" as he walks. His cute little eyes and button nose can disarm even the most unloving brutes. If he was a [Servant](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Servant) That cute radiant blush of his up his Charisma to A Rank (Saber only has Charisma that is B Rank) and light even the darkest of places.
*Blood Type*: O
*Birthday*: Dec. 11, 2012 (12/11/12)
Hobbies: Organizing the logistics of Anime.SE, spotlighting old questions so they can get answers, delivering bounties that have been awarded, handing out badges to helpful users, delivering notifications, delivering feeds to the chat rooms, and much much more~
**tl;dr: This site needs more unicorns.**
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_7: **[万]{まん}[賀]{が}[河]{か} (Q-kun)**
* Gender: Male
* Age: 23
* DoB: 17/03/1993
* Blood type: O
Man Gaka is a chubby chibi manga character who draws manga for SEAM (Stack Exchange: Anime & Manga) to be adapted by A-chan. His name literally means "River of Ten Thousand Congratulations". His nickname, Q-kun, is a reference to his Quteness (cute as a pet) and his role as a Questioner. He is somewhat like a combination of <NAME> from *Accel World* and Albert "Al" Pitt from *Aria*.
Charm Points: As you may know, some mangaka write tidbits at the end of a manga volume. Q-kun does that, too, offering tips and reminders to question askers.
**[雨天]{うてん}[布達]{ふたつ} (A-chan)**
* Gender: Female
* Age: 17
* DoB: 24/04/1999
* Blood type: A
Uten Futatsu is an animated character and a mania. Uten means "rainy days" and Futatsu means "to make something known" or "that something that is made known". The A in her nickname is for Ame (rain) and Answers.
Charm Points: twintails (bluish-grey and sometimes braided) and a mild chuunibyou (中二病). She has the power to manipulate water, but is rather inexperienced at it that she sometimes accidentally floods Q-kun. I'll be honest and say that I had <NAME> from *Valkyria Chronicles* in mind when I conceived A-chan.
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How I conceived Uten Futatsu: from アニメ, make the ア and メ revolve around the ニ so the katakanas change between アニメ and メニア. メニア sounds like mania, which describes many anime fans quite well. The ニ looks like 二 (pronounced ni or futatsu), hence the rather common personality of 中二病. アニメ minus the ニ is アメ, or rain. The revolving motion is called うんてん, which is very similar to うてん (has the kanji for rain, too).
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2014/03/05 | 14,733 | 35,027 | <issue_start>username_0: You can use this question as a formatting sandbox. You can
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2014/03/06 | 895 | 3,828 | <issue_start>username_0: I was wondering how people feel about these questions. I'm not sure whether these would count as a questions on Anime & Manga, but what would be you advice on questions like these and would they be closed. It would be likely to be closed, but really i'm looking for an opinion.
Helpful answers will be good.<issue_comment>username_1: I understand your feeling of wanting them closed.
I personally find it a very risky question as it is still anime production wise related, which should make it a question that is allowed on the site. The information necessary to answer this isn't really laying around either, it would take a huge effort to compare the viewer statistics that are released to the public and make a worthy answer out of it, even though without citation it can be answered in a 1 liner.
The fact that the answer to this specific question is really hard to obtain, and ever fluctuating (viewer numbers rise and drop on regular occasions)
So my view, as long as they don't stray to far from the [anime-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-production "show questions tagged 'anime-production'"), so for example "What is the most watched anime in Philippines" would be close to impossible to answer, and if it is answerable the answer would be ever fluctuating.
My view on this individual question, the information is hard to obtain, takes a huge effort to make a non 1 liner good answer for it. And I personally think closing it as to broad. Also the information from this ( after doing some research ) fluctuates allot making it very hard to maintain a solid answer
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I'm more-or-less fine with this sort of question.
First off, it's on topic in my opinion. A question might be off-topic if it were highly specific to the reception of anime in a particular culture (other than Japanese culture IMO). However, this question has a global perspective. It's about how anime is recieved, which is something that ought to be on topic here.
I also don't think it's opinion-based. A good answer to this question calls for some statistics, not opinions. If anything, it's less opinion-based than all the [tropes](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/tropes "show questions tagged 'tropes'") questions that mostly never get objective answers or go beyond duplicating content that's already listed elsewhere on Wikipedia or TVTropes.
I don't think it's too broad either. There aren't very many possible answers, and answers themselves wouldn't need to be very long. Listing the 5-10 top countries by some statistic, and a couple paragraphs of explanation, would probably be sufficient. If someone already had such data available, it would not be a very challenging question to answer.
What this question may be is *too hard*. The data don't seem to have been collected, and doing it would require some sort of international polling that's pretty difficult. However, that is *not* a reason to close the question. If it were, virtually every nontrivial question on niche series would also be too hard. When a question is too hard, the proper course of action is just to not answer it. If you think it's too hard for *anyone* to answer, then downvoting (ideally with a comment) would be reasonable, but I'd be very surprised if no one in the world knew which countries anime is popular in. There are definitely ways one could study this, e.g. looking at export data, traffic to major anime sites, etc. It would not surprise me if there were academic papers which already perform this analysis. If it hasn't been performed, then it's pretty intensive to do well, which means that it probably won't get answered, but all that closing the question would do is change "hard" to "impossible".
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2014/03/07 | 1,694 | 6,711 | <issue_start>username_0: It's been announced that this site will graduate. That's great news and it's a testament to the hard work that our community has put into maintaining quality content, especially given how this site could have turned out. Looking at the [Area 51 metrics](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/31538/anime-manga), all the numbers are pretty good. While there are still areas we could stand to improve on, none of them are serious issues. However, there is one thing that bothers me about our graduation, which is a number that's pretty easy to overlook:
We currently have only 16 users with over 3k rep. While that's more than 3 times the "excellent" level criterion, I still think it's too low for a graduated site. It's not a problem now, because most of the important privileges are way lower than that. But once we graduate, the **[Close/Reopen Vote Privilege](https://anime.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/close-questions) will be raised to 3k rep.** That means that there will only be 16 users on the site with that privilege. Currently, by contrast, there are 73.
16 seems rather low to me. If you include the moderators (I expect we'll continue to have at least 3), that would be only 13 regular users to cast nonbinding votes. Of those 13 users, 3 haven't been seen in the past week (some longer than that). That's not a huge problem, but we can't count on them to be regularly voting on these things. So realistically, **there'll be something like 10 users who can cast nonbinding close votes**. We'll still need 5 votes to do anything though. So basically, except in the very obvious cases (which mods can handle on their own anyway), it will be quite difficult to close anything without a strong consensus. Practically speaking, it may just happen that mods start closing things once they get 2-3 other close votes, but I'd rather let the community handle this as much as possible and reserve moderator intervention for the exceptional cases.
It's not clear to me that the transition from 73 close voters to 16 will be a smooth one. It could create problems for us at least until we get more 3k users. I don't know how long that will be, but I expect it would at least be a few months, if not longer. It would also mean that even a single user at this level leaving the site would have a noticeable effect.
For comparison, of the [10 most recent graduated sites](http://area51.stackexchange.com/?tab=launched), only the oldest 3 had fewer than 30 users at this level when they graduated. The average was 33.8 at the time of graduation (more than twice ours), and the lowest was 23. We'd be *far below any of those* if we graduated today. Admittedly, we aren't graduating today, but I think we should consider this on the premise that we will graduate relatively soon, and if it turns out to take a while, then the problem may correct itself. In any case, I fully expect that eventually we'll have enough 3k users that closing/reopening question will never be something we have to worry about, but I'm not sure we're there yet.
So, with regards to this situation, here are my questions:
1. **Is this actually a problem, or am I just paranoid?** It could be that we've reached a point where we don't need so many close voters, e.g. if the current high rep voters are already mostly handling it.
2. **If this is a problem, is there anything we should do about it? If so, what?** The only things I can think of are requesting to delay our graduation (how long?) and voting more (how would we encourage this?).<issue_comment>username_1: I don't think that the lack of close voters will be a problem with our current community size.
With our current amount of questions and the (what I see passing by) bad questions that need to be closed down I think we would only need about 10 people at the max until we grow some more. Most of the active close voters right now are already above the 3k rep and generally think about closing things in the same way.
That does not take away the fact that we can indeed use more close voters for the future. We don't know when a big load of people will get interested in the site, and a certain degree of bad questions will most likely follow.
**How to improve upvoting:**
Right now I get the feeling allot of people skip questions most likely won't know a answer to, or just skip certain post all along because they are not about a series they know anything about. This leads to well known series such as Naruto/One Piece/Bleach to receive tons of upvote's, while the less known series are left in the dust.
**With this my suggestion is to draw more attention to smaller series by adding bounty's to them.**
Drawing more attention to questions is hard. And I know there are allot of people out there that are just sitting around there trying to get their reputation high enough to be able to do more in the community. There for Bounty's will certainly attract a certain degree of activity in some lesser known series.
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> I haven't even got that much reputation. If they graduate the site, there will be no way that I will be able to do anything else on this site and it will probably take me a year just to reach 700 reputation
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**How are we going to do this?**
Were should these bountys come from ? I would suggest high rep users. Or if possible through the Community user. Right now we got the community user bumping a post once in a while for more attention. Is it not a option to let the community user put a bounty on certain questions as well?
**So my final conclusion: Right now it is no problem, but we should improve our voting through bounty's to prevent it from becoming a problem.**
*I am open for discussion on this topic as well, so feel free to comment on this or mention me in the chat and ill pop in there.*
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: >
> If this is a problem, is there anything we should do about it?
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Yes. Get your house in order! **And don't forget to vote!**
There are enough folks with enough privileges right now to do a thorough spring cleaning. Get rid of crap, up-vote hidden gems, elevate good questions and bury mediocre ones. **[Start here](https://anime.stackexchange.com/unanswered)**
Those 180 users with 200+ rep? You can *all* vote. Up and down. This is one of the most important privileges on the site, the one that effectively controls all the rest... So use it!
If you follow this advice, by the time y'all graduate you'll have a site that doesn't *require* large numbers of high-rep users... But you'll have plenty of them anyway. So get to work...
Upvotes: 4 |
2014/03/14 | 1,399 | 5,800 | <issue_start>username_0: Take, for example, this question: [Will there be a continuation of Sword Art Online?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/3372/will-there-be-a-continuation-of-sword-art-online). At the time the question was written, no announcement about a second season of SAO had been made, and so the question was correctly deemed off-topic.
Now, however, the second season of SAO (GGO / Phantom Bullet) has been confirmed to air during summer 2014. Should we reopen that question and answer it, now that there is an answer to be given?
**EDIT:** The question I referred to above has been deleted. Here is a screencap of the question, for reference: [link](https://i.stack.imgur.com/fob7C.png).<issue_comment>username_1: **For the most part, no, we should not be reopening most of these sorts of questions.**
The reason we don't allow questions about unannounced future events is that we aren't a news source. We'd be spectacularly bad at these sorts of questions if we allowed them. No one here is likely to have any knowledge related to these things that is not public. Even if we did, it would be impossible without a legitimate source to provide an acceptable answer. As a result, there are at least two big problems with such questions. One is that most of them will never be answered, or even answerable. That isn't the case once an announcement is made, so it isn't an issue for this class of question.
However, the other problem is that once an announcement is made, the question is essentially immediately obsolete here as soon as it is answerable. The information gets posted on every major anime website, literally overnight. [ANN](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com), [MAL](http://myanimelist.net/), [Crunchyroll](http://www.crunchyroll.com/), and even [Wikipedia](http://www.wikipedia.org/) will all have the information readily available for anyone searching for it. We aren't helping anyone find information that they couldn't already get by going to any of these places (as any reasonable person would do). That's still a problem for the question in the OP, and at this point even if we reopened it and answered it I'm not sure it would actually help anyone.
The argument above that we shouldn't reopen the question just because the answer is covered other places does have its flaws. We tend to be pretty lenient towards even relatively low-effort questions here. However, there's another good reason we don't want this sort of question open. It sets a precedent for lots of future questions, almost all of which would need to be closed. In that sense, it's a huge broken window. In the early days of [Stack Overflow](https://stackoverflow.com/), many questions not about programming were asked, and some had pretty useful answers even if they were off-topic. However, a lot of them ended up inspiring a large number of copycat questions which were generally of low quality. This is a big part of why SO began more aggressively closing off-topic questions. This is probably a good lesson to take from SO despite the fact that we're a very different community in terms of standards. Keeping the question closed helps to avoid this copycat problem.
So no, there shouldn't be an exception for most of these questions. The only ones that deserve to be reopened are ones that a reasonable person might ask *after* hearing the announcement. For instance, if someone had asked "Which light novels will the second season of SAO adapt?" before it was announced, that question could be reopened after the announcement. The run-of-them-mill "Will X get an anime?" questions should not be reopened though. To phrase that a bit differently, questions *asking about* and announcement are allowed, but questions *asking for* an announcement are not.
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As a note, in my opinion, questions of the form "Will X get an anime?" should typically be deleted fast enough to avoid this issue anyway. There's really no reason not to delete the questions in this case. There's nothing the OP can change to make it an allowable question. In addition, for whatever reason questions like this seem to generate a lot of undesirable traffic, since they're arriving here on a broken window. We should be deleting them fairly quickly rather than leaving them closed and undeleted indefinitely.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: **No, future events should still be off-topic**
I still agree with the previous question:
[What do we do with questions about future events/releases?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/27/what-do-we-do-with-questions-about-future-events-releases?rq=1)
In that, we are not a news outlet, we are a knowledge-based Q&A site.
Questions that are about future events can quickly get out-dated. For example [When will the airing of Fairy Tail episode 176 begin?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/6571/when-will-the-airing-of-fairy-tail-episode-176-begin) might be useful now, but once it starts airing again, that knowledge is useless.
I feel that an event being 'announced' or 'unannounced' is irrelevant. If it has been annouced, there are news sites that will cover this information and the question is quickly made obsolete. And it's very hard to get a definitive answer for unannounced events as.. well, they haven't been announced, so not much is known about them publicly.
As regards to @LoganM's sample question "Which light novels will the second season of SAO adapt?" I agree that it is something that could be answered after the event. But it's very likely that question will be edited to "Which light novels do the second season of SAO adapt", becoming a typical question on the site. So I propose the same rules apply, and that the owner could edit their question later on to fit the requirement.
Upvotes: 1 |
2014/03/24 | 3,749 | 13,369 | <issue_start>username_0: We've previously voted that we need a set of guidelines to quality control (QC) [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions that will be added to our [help center](https://anime.stackexchange.com/help). These guidelines will be applied to ALL (new and old) [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") question since the tag's inception.
So I ask the community, how should we go about making these guidelines?
Please format and present your list of guidelines for [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") in the form you wish for it to appear in the help center.
The guidelines should include, but are not limited to the following:
* List of criteria to follow
* Examples of things that fit the criteria (i.e. are certain criteria more welcomed, like images, audio, and/or video?)
* Minimum number of criteria that must be present in the [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") question
* Any what to do for certain exceptions (e.g., What if the criteria are fulfilled but the details are too vague?)
* What action should be taken for questions that fail this criteria?<issue_comment>username_1: >
> Please note that as of May 8, 2016, **ALL** [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions are now [**off-topic**](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2805/what-wed-like-to-do-about-those-gosh-darn-identification-requests-questions/2806#2806).
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> However, such question are still welcome [in our main chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/maid-cafe-) for users with with at least [20 rep](https://anime.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/chat) (globally on StackExchange).
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**Hey you!** You're probably here, because you asked an [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") question that was "put on hold" or "closed."
If you would care to know why, please take sometime to read [this meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2490/a-new-users-guide-to-our-site-and-whats-wrong-with-their-identification-reque/2491#2491).
In short, **these guidelines are here to help us help you find what you're looking for**. We realize you can't remember everything, but every bit of detail you can remember (no matter how insignificant it may seem) can be a lot of help. All we ask for you to fulfill, at minimum, three (3) of these guidelines.
**If you are unsure of what you need to include, please look over the checklist in [this meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2661/lets-help-id-request-users-help-themselves-with-a-floating-checklist-guide-for).**
Please note that questions with **ONLY** **an image(s), audio, and/or video(s)** are **[off-topic](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2725/policy-review-image-only-id-requests/2726#2726)**.
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Please *please* try to doing a [reverse image search](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/21618/where-is-this-picture-from-how-do-i-use-reverse-image-search-to-find-the-source) yourself, instead of asking us to find it.
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Taking cues from sites like TV & Movies.SE, Sci-Fi.SE, and Arqade, I've come up with the following guidelines:
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> An [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") should have as many of the following points as possible:
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> * Any description of the **leading/recurring character(s)** (i.e. physical description, behavior, etc.)
> * Any description of any **distinctive features**, including the plot and related elements (e.g. girls who are soda cans that do battle, or i.e., the setting, the plot)
> * What the **genre or cinematic style** was (e.g. mecha, sci-fi, fantasy, shonen, shoujo, seinen, noir, cyberpunk, etc.)
> * What the **drawing/animation style** is like
> * **When and where** you saw it (if you saw it when you were a kid, don't give your age, give the approximate year, and month if possible)
> * Who the **publisher, licensor, and/or distributor** was
> * **Type of media**: TV show, OVA, movie, manga, web-series, one-shot, etc.
> * Any **image(s), audio, or video(s)** related to the series (an exception may be made for questions with one or more of these items)
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> **If you are unsure of what you need to include, please look over the checklist in [this meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2661/lets-help-id-request-users-help-themselves-with-a-floating-checklist-guide-for).**
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> For a detailed example and explanation of **how to properly ask for [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions** w/o any audio-visual artefacts, please read [this answer](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/783/what-kind-of-policy-should-we-adopt-for-current-and-future-identification-reque/792#792).
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> For a more in-depth explanation of the why we're asking you to provide such details, refer to [this post](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/2473/63).
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In addition to the above guidelines, here are some suggestions to improve the quality of your [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions:
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> Make Sure To Have A Descriptive Title
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> All [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions **should have a title that is phrased or edited to be phrased as a question containing at least one pertinent detail** from the body of the question. Vague titles like "Requesting an anime identification" or "What is this anime show?" will lower the visibility of your question by fellow users since they'll have to click on it to find out what it's about. **This shows a lack of effort on your part.** Why should someone make an effort to help you if you can't properly format the question in your title?
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> Please limit your [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions to ask for only **one series or piece per question**. Questions asking us to identify multiple unrelated media will only dilute the quality of responses with partial answers.
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> Please questions with **ONLY** **an image(s), audio, and/or video(s)** are **[off-topic](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2725/policy-review-image-only-id-requests/2726#2726)**. If you're looking for the source of an anime image try doing a [**reverse image search**](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/21618/how-can-i-identify-an-anime-using-reverse-image-search) search yourself.
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We want to maintain a consistent quality for [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") question and have no choice but to enforce a minimum standard of acceptable quality.
We're not asking you to write an essay, but we expect you to at least make an attempt to fulfill the bare minimum, so we have some solid leads to go on:
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> As a **bare minimum** your question needs meet ***three*** of these guidelines. **If you are unsure of what you need to include, please look over the checklist in [this meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2661/lets-help-id-request-users-help-themselves-with-a-floating-checklist-guide-for).**
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> Questions with **ONLY** **an image(s), audio, and/or video(s)** are **[off-topic](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2725/policy-review-image-only-id-requests/2726#2726)**. *Please* try to doing a [reverse image search](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/21618/where-is-this-picture-from-how-do-i-use-reverse-image-search-to-find-the-source) yourself.
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> Even if the aforementioned minimum guidelines are met, if the description provided is determined to be too ambiguous or generic, it will be put on hold as:
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Even if you question has been closed, it doesn't mean that it's the end of the line. Please try to review your question and make an attempt to addition details.
**If you are unsure of what you need to include, please look over the checklist in [this meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2661/lets-help-id-request-users-help-themselves-with-a-floating-checklist-guide-for).**
If you need help, feel free to reach out to the moderators or other users. We'll try to help you as best we can.
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> If your question has been ["put on hold" or "closed"](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/2491/63), **it's not too late to edit your question** to include more details, **we'll be more than happy to reopen** your question once other users have reviewed and determined that there is **sufficient detail** to go about to helping you identify what you're looking for.
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Upvotes: 6 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: >
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> If possible, do a [reverse image search](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/21618/how-can-i-identify-an-anime-using-reverse-image-search)
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> Copy template, fill in details, tag [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'")
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> *Note: if you [can't delete](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/44557/261498) it due not not being registered, leave a comment and if we see it, we'll delete it for you*
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Identification Request Template (minimum of three):
* An Image
* When and where you saw it
* Media
* Genre
* Animation/Art style
* Distinctive Features and the story
* Character Descriptions
* Studio/Publisher/Distributor
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**Example Identification Request**:
*What anime are these purple, red, and blue robots from?*
* **An Image**: *any picture, youtube, sound clip, that's related*
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/fb7ED.jpg)
* **When and where**: Bad- *I was 10*; Good- *2010*; Best- *Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter of X year*
Fall 1995
* **Media**: *manga, show, movie, etc...*
TV Show
* **Genre**: *shonen, shoujo, sci-fi, fantasy, slice of life, etc..*
Shonen, Action, Mecha, Sci-fi
* **Animation/Art style**: *hand drawn, cg, sloppy, detailed, ghibli, etc..*
Apocalyptic, Dark, Stylized
* **Distinctive Features**: *plot, tropes, environment, themes*
giant purple humanoid robot, plug suits, under ground city, angels wiping out mankind
* **Character Descriptions**:
-Main character has repeated mental breakdowns, is a student, wears a white plug suit, constantly whining, etc..
-Red head tsundere, red plug suit, red mech
-Blue haired quiet girl, white plug suit, blue mech
* **Studio/Publisher/Distributor**:
Gainax, Production I.G., Deen
*other examples: Shaft/Bones/Sunrise/Kishimoto/Tite Kubo/Clamp...
Kodansha/Square/ASCII Media Works/Jump...
Funimation/Viz/CrunchyRoll...*
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: As of 08/02/2016, **Image-only Identification requests** are off-topic.
If you wish to identify an image, please check out how to [Reverse Image Search](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/21618/where-is-this-picture-from-how-do-i-use-reverse-image-search-to-find-the-source).
Alternatively, if you have enough reputation you may ask in our [chat room](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/maid-cafe-).
There are several other websites that may assist you in your search, but because of consistently low-quality issues, [we have elected](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2725/policy-review-image-only-id-requests) to not have these questions on our site
Upvotes: 3 |
2014/03/25 | 194 | 818 | <issue_start>username_0: I accidentally created a tag called [full] when I was asking a FMA question and I accidentally pressed enter and created the tag [full]. How do I delete it? I am panicking cause people may think I am doing this on purpose.
Please help.<issue_comment>username_1: You need to remove the tag from whatever questions it's currently on (at the moment there are none so you're already done with that). After that, just wait for the tag to be automatically removed. This should happen daily at 3:00 UTC so long as it isn't being used on any questions at that time.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Tags not used in any question are automagically deleted by the system in 24 hours. Just remove the tag from whatever question it has it and try to keep it like that ;)
Upvotes: 2 |
2014/03/25 | 201 | 812 | <issue_start>username_0: The [symbolism](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/symbolism "show questions tagged 'symbolism'") tag is currently our 16th-most-used tag, and I'm not sure if it's actually doing us any good. Should we get rid of it?<issue_comment>username_1: You need to remove the tag from whatever questions it's currently on (at the moment there are none so you're already done with that). After that, just wait for the tag to be automatically removed. This should happen daily at 3:00 UTC so long as it isn't being used on any questions at that time.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Tags not used in any question are automagically deleted by the system in 24 hours. Just remove the tag from whatever question it has it and try to keep it like that ;)
Upvotes: 2 |
2014/03/28 | 341 | 1,303 | <issue_start>username_0: What is the criteria for this and are we allowed to ask questions on animes shows that are usually Yaoi or Yuri related in nature? Please do not get this confused with Hentai!
An answer would be nice. I would like to know since it seems that hentai related questions seem to be allowed. Not sure why though?
Answers are appreciated.
Note: I am asking this question because I was planning on asking questions related to a Yaoi such as <NAME>. What is your opinion on this?<issue_comment>username_1: As long as it's anime/manga related independently the genre are on topic and can be asked in Anime.SE. We would kindly ask that you should be make your posts Safe For Work (SFW).
So, for your specific concern, Yaoi and Yuri genres are on topic as long as you express yourself with professionalism fit of the SE site.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Definetly, I've asked questions about Yuri items before and I don't see why Yaoi would be any different:
[Why did the Strawberry Panic manga end?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/4447/why-did-the-strawberry-panic-manga-end)
If it's something explicit in nature, be sure to try and make the content sfw as @username_1 has mentioned, but as a genre they are perfectly fine
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer] |
2014/03/29 | 393 | 1,611 | <issue_start>username_0: Just wondering on this and I feel kind of silly for asking this but what do you do in a Chat Room? I notice that on other Stackexchange websites they have Chat Rooms. I gained the privelge to chat in chatrooms a while back now and I really don't know what its about? What are you suppose to talk about? E.g. I went to a Anime and Manga chat room and had no idea what to say. What are you suppose to talk about? Are than any rules I should be aware of, because it just looked like questions that you ask show up there.
Help would be nice.<issue_comment>username_1: The general topic is Anime and Manga, but you aren't limited to that. The only major rule is be nice and treat others the same way you expect to be treated.
We're hoping to see you there :)
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Personally I go there to ask about different shows and stuff, I think I asked a couple of days ago - if, after watching episode 1, should I continue with Nisekoi, as I didn't enjoy the first episode.
I don't talk much, but I do stick my head in now and then.
It's really just a general chat room with the other members in the anime stackexchange community - people post pictures, talk about questions that don't really need a meta, and just chat about anime and related stuff [It doesn't even have to be related, there's often programming talk in there too].
The questions that show up there is sent by a chatbot that posts ones that have been newly asked.
If you don't know where to start, why not just introduce yourself and see where it goes from there :)
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2014/04/08 | 1,117 | 4,298 | <issue_start>username_0: Are questions about crunchyroll (and other popular anime-focused software) on topic here? I figured the users most likely to be able to answer a question about crunchyroll would be here, but there is a webapps SE site. I know Arqade takes questions about Steam, which in itself is not a game.<issue_comment>username_1: I think allowing questions about CrunchyRoll as a service has three issues:
**1. You will get a better answer elsewhere.**
It is highly unlikely that the people on our Q&A site will know better than CrunchyRoll support, a related forum, or the [Web Apps Stack Exchange](https://webapps.stackexchange.com/).
**2. There won't be many of these questions.**
Aside from individual issues of people who already use this site, there will be few issues brought up at all. This isn't to say we want more—I'm simply getting at the fact that there's no need for us to permit these as it's not going to bring down our current quality standards to ignore them.
**3. It has great implications.**
Say we allow questions about CrunchyRoll. What else do we allow? MyAnimeList? Hummingbird.me? The domino effect of allowing such questions would be grand.
Therefore, with these said, **I am against allowing questions about CrunchyRoll in general**.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I think that following Arqade's policy on Steam (cf. [this thread on meta.Arqade](https://gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/6890/why-are-steam-questions-on-topic)) is the right way to go about this. In particular, there *is* definitely merit in allowing questions about services operated by licensed vendors of anime/manga/etc, such as Crunchyroll, Funimation, etc. Whether or not services operated by other parties (e.g. MAL, etc.) should be on topic is a separate issue (personally, I am ambivalent about this).
Note the following, partially in rebuttal to Eric:
* "You will get a better answer elsewhere" has never really been a good reason for deeming things off-topic on StackExchange. The entire point of SE (as I see it, anyway) is to *become* the place to get the best answers for your questions. Certainly, there will be some questions that are only answerable by Crunchyroll support ("I can't log into my account halp plox"), but there will be others that are answerable by ordinary folks like us (e.g. [Is the version of Madoka Magica on Crunchyroll the DVD version?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/6266/is-the-version-of-madoka-magica-on-crunchyroll-the-dvd-version)).
* The largest community of experts on Crunchyroll/etc on StackExchange is almost certainly found here, not on Webapps.SE or anywhere else.
* I disagree that the implications are "great". There is a finite and short list of services that are Crunchyroll-like, about which I propose we accept questions. In fact, let me list most of them: Crunchyroll, Funimation, Daisuki, Aniplex Channel, Madman, and maybe Hulu and Youtube. There's probably a few UK/Australia services I missed there, but you get the idea - there aren't that many of these services out there.
This being the case, I propose that we revise our list of on-topic things to include something in the vein of [Arqade's](https://gaming.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic) "Game-specific hardware and utilities" that accurately outlines the types of anime services that are kosher for this site.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: To make my answer as simple as possible-
No, CrunchyRoll is not on-topic. My reason for this is this...
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Just because CrunchyRoll is an anime-focused software does not mean that it is on-topic on Anime and Manga because as the name implies it does not say *Anime Software and Hardware.*
We try to encourage questions that ask about something specific and relevant to an Anime (Show/TV-Series), Manga or Light Novel.
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2014/04/24 | 2,493 | 8,379 | <issue_start>username_0: As some users have suggested in the past, there may be merit in coming up with a standard format for tag wikis (and, more importantly, excerpts) for series tags. That is, tags like [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'"), [madoka-magica](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/madoka-magica "show questions tagged 'madoka-magica'"), etc., but not tags like [anime-production](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-production "show questions tagged 'anime-production'"), [theme-song](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/theme-song "show questions tagged 'theme-song'"), etc.
I have posted an answer containing one, and encourage other users to discuss this proposal, as well as make their own proposals if they think mine doesn't work.<issue_comment>username_1: Excerpts
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I propose that excerpts for series contain the full name of a series in Japanese (romanized; there's no point in tossing kanji/kana in there - yes, I know I'm responsible for adding a fair bit of unnecessary Japanese text to the excerpts; I now realize that was stupid). They should also contain any official English localizations of the name and any common ways of referring to them that aren't necessarily official. The names should be ordered from most used to least used.
A reference to an author/director/producer is also helpful to situate the excerpt in context. In most cases, we need not include any other information.
So, for example, here are how some of these would work:
* [madoka-magica](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/madoka-magica "show questions tagged 'madoka-magica'") - *Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica (or "Puella Magi Madoka Magica" is a 2011 anime series produced by Shaft.*
* [chuunibyou](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/chuunibyou "show questions tagged 'chuunibyou'") - *"Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!" ("Love, Chunibyo & Other Delusions"), is a light novel written by Torako, with an anime adaptation by Kyoto Animation.*
* [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'") - *Naruto is a manga series by Masashi Kishimoto.*
* [one-piece](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/one-piece "show questions tagged 'one-piece'") - *One Piece is a manga series by Oda Eiichiro.*
* [shingeki-no-kyojin](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/shingeki-no-kyojin "show questions tagged 'shingeki-no-kyojin'") - *Shingeki no Kyojin (or, "Attack on Titan" or "The Eotena Onslaught") is a manga series by Hajime Isayama.* (lol jk)
* [kara-no-kyoukai](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/kara-no-kyoukai "show questions tagged 'kara-no-kyoukai'") - *Kara no Kyoukai (or, "The Garden of Sinners") is a light novel series by Nasu Kinoko.* (note that we don't include "The Boundary of Emptiness" which is a literal translation of "Kara no Kyoukai", but isn't actually used as a title by anyone)
Now, there are some excerpts that will need additional disambiguation or references to other related tags. We should do so while still maintaining economy of space:
* [fullmetal-alchemist](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fullmetal-alchemist "show questions tagged 'fullmetal-alchemist'") - *Fullmetal Alchemist (the manga; the 2003 anime; and the 2009 anime, subtitled 'Brotherhood'), or "Hagane no Renkinjutsushi" is a series by Hiromu Arakawa.*
* [dragon-ball](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/dragon-ball "show questions tagged 'dragon-ball'") - *Use this tag for Dragon Ball (the manga by <NAME> and the original anime) as well as Dragon Ball Z. For Dragon Ball GT, use [dragonball-gt].*
* [monogatari-series](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/monogatari-series "show questions tagged 'monogatari-series'") - *The Monogatari series is a light novel series by Nisio Isin, including Bakemonogatari, Nisemonogatari, Nekomonogatari, Kizumonogatari, etc.*
* [neon-genesis-evangelion](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/neon-genesis-evangelion "show questions tagged 'neon-genesis-evangelion'") - *Neon Genesis Evangelion ("Shin Seiki Evangelion") is a 1995 anime series produced by Gainax. Use this tag for Rebuild of Evangelion, too.*
* [toaru-majutsu-no-index](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/toaru-majutsu-no-index "show questions tagged 'toaru-majutsu-no-index'") - *A Certain Magical Index ("Toaru Majutsu no Index") is a light novel series by Kazuma Kamachi. See also [toaru-kagaku-no-railgun].* (and correspondingly for [toaru-kagaku-no-railgun](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/toaru-kagaku-no-railgun "show questions tagged 'toaru-kagaku-no-railgun'"))
* [fate-zero](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fate-zero "show questions tagged 'fate-zero'") - *Fate/Zero is a light novel series by Urobuchi Gen, and a prequel to [fate-stay-night].*
What I'm basically getting at here is that we don't need all this cruft like "...is a shoujo manga series written by such-and-such" or "...consisting of 13 volumes and 42 episodes plus 3 OVAs" or "...in which <NAME> fights the demons and saves the world" - for the most part nobody needs that information to pick the right tag.
Wikis
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I'm not as concerned with standardizing the wikis as I am with standardizing the excerpts, because the wikis frankly aren't that important. As long as they don't grow into enormous unmaintanable monstrosities, whatever, you know.
A few series tags may need to have some clarification about where they should be used (FMA, Raildex, Dragon Ball, and so forth), for which a sentence or two should suffice. Other than that, the only thing I think ought to be a mandatory feature of a tag wiki is a link to the Wikipedia article for the series - or, when there is no such article, a link to the next-best resource, which might be ANN or MAL or something.
Other than those basic requirements, I think that we should allow the tag wikis (but not excerpts) to develop organically - the tag wikis for [Naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/tags/naruto/info), [FMA](https://anime.stackexchange.com/tags/fullmetal-alchemist/info), [One Piece](https://anime.stackexchange.com/tags/one-piece/info), and [Bleach](https://anime.stackexchange.com/tags/bleach/info) all seem like perfectly reasonable ways of approaching this - one piece of promotional art, a brief summary, a listing of related media, and links to relevant Wikipedia articles.
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If we can agree on this, I'd be happy to go through the series tags and 1.) reformat the excerpts per my proposal; 2.) leave the tag wikis mostly untouched except to add Wikipedia links where they are absent; and 3.) cull any cases of plagiarism found in the tag wikis.
**Update 2 May 2014:** I have basically implemented this proposal for tags with few questions, but will leave tags with 6 or more questions untouched; see [here](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/957/1908) for more details.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Here's how I think tag excerpts should be constructed:
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My vision of tag excerpts' purpose is to allow users to definitely identify anime/manga without the need to look further into the tag's wiki. I also think that tag wikis do not serve the purpose of identification, but as a cool place to collect all interesting information about a work.
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2014/04/27 | 840 | 3,050 | <issue_start>username_0: In the question <https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/8915/is-anyone-aware-of-this-movie>, it turns out that the thing the OP was looking for was [The Road to El Dorado](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_to_El_Dorado), which is a DreamWorks film, not an anime. Should we close it as off-topic?
(Personally, I'm ambivalent about this, but I figured I'd bring it up.)<issue_comment>username_1: I say no. If we are to accept [identification-request](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/identification-request "show questions tagged 'identification-request'") questions w/o visual-audio artefacts, we will need to accept a lack of knowledge/awareness of our users in [distinguishing](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/69/63) anime and non-Japanese animation (technically only their). Whenever one attempts to a question of this type is the words of the asker (OP) should be taken with a grain of salt -- as one's memory is rarely infallible.
This is not to say allow all questions that "look like" anime, but rather give a bit of leeway to the asker (especially if they are new), if they believe the media that's on the tip of their tongue is anime.
SciFi.SE (TV & Movies SE too) on occasion gets questions tagged as anime, when they're not.
Some examples that I've come upon:
* [Mid-1980s animated theatrical release](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/q/33677/3623)
* [Anime movie about a boy in a ghost town](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/q/36215/3623)
I'd rather not be picky about whether or not a series is anime, because [sometimes the lines are blurred](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%8Cban_Star-Racers). I doubt that the distinction is really that important to most users. If we do anything we should usually include a note letting the asker know that the name of the media and how it isn't anime.
**tl;dr:** I think such questions are okay to stay as is for now, but let try not to let it go out of hand in the future.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I believe we've been through this in another issue.
You can't judge a question by its answers. You can't close a question because the answers on it would be off-topic. Because the asker can't know that in advance.
If the OP asks a question that by definition is off-topic (the question, not the answers). Close it. If it isn't that obvious, asking here on meta is a right course of action.
A question is to remain open until decided otherwise. And if we *do* decide otherwise, the change will be reflected here on meta and in the help center.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: If the question makes it clear that it isn't anime then close it however if the user is unsure if it's actually anime then allow the question.
When it gets answered and we find that it's not an anime title. if the user returns and confirms it or the answer itself matches the question without question i would suggest migrating the question/answer to something like [TV & Movies](https://movies.stackexchange.com/).
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