date stringlengths 10 10 | nb_tokens int64 60 629k | text_size int64 234 1.02M | content stringlengths 234 1.02M |
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2022/09/01 | 858 | 2,650 | <issue_start>username_0: For a particular installed app (in my case, `com.android.chrome`), is there a way to tell which ABI is being used (e.g., `arm64-v8a`)?
I know I could launch the app and run `file` on `/proc//exe` but I'm wondering if there's a way to do this by examining the app itself.<issue_comment>username_1: Modern apps installed from Google Play Store consist of multiple APK files (also known as split APK files). If the app contains native `.so` files those files are usually packed per-ABI (e.g. `armeabi-v7a` `arm64-v8a` `x86` or `x86_64`) and only the matching ABI file is downloaded and installed.
Therefore for some apps you can check the installed ABI by listing all APK files that belong to an app:
```
adb shell pm path
```
Example:
```
package:/data/app/.../com.example.app-SO6ebvL9yDViMlHkHQ6NPw==/base.apk
package:/data/app/.../com.example.app-SO6ebvL9yDViMlHkHQ6NPw==/split_config.arm64_v8a.apk
package:/data/app/.../com.example.app-SO6ebvL9yDViMlHkHQ6NPw==/split_config.xxhdpi.apk
```
If the APK list contains an entry that ends with `arm64_v8a.apk` and no other APK file contains in it's file-name an other ABI name then you know that the `arm64_v8a` ABI version is installed and used.
Unfortunately this can only work for split APKs. And even for some split APK apps it doesn't work for an unknown reason - `com.android.chrome` is one of those apps that is a split app with platform dependent so files but none of the APK files have an indicator in the file-name which ABI is installed.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: To add to @username_1's reply, if the application has no native libraries, it means it is platform independent, so you can get the ABI from `adb shell getprop ro.product.cpu.abi`.
In the other case, suppose you have a phone with `arm64-v8a` and `com.android.chrome` only has a native library for `armeabi-v7a`, you can run `adb shell pm dump | grep primaryCpuAbi` and get the app's ABI.
Example:
```
$ adb shell pm dump com.android.chrome | grep primaryCpuAbi
primaryCpuAbi=armeabi-v7a
$ adb shell pm dump com.example.platform.independent | grep primaryCpuAbi
primaryCpuAbi=null
```
You can also try `adb shell pm dump | grep -A 3 "Dexopt state:"`
Example `arm`:
```
Dexopt state:
[com.example.nativelib]
path: /data/app/~~ThisIsAnExampleAAAAAAA==/com.example.nativelib-ThisIsAnExampleAAAAAAA==/base.apk
arm: [status=quicken] [reason=bg-dexopt]
```
Example `arm64`:
```
Dexopt state:
[com.android.dialer]
path: /system/product/priv-app/Dialer/Dialer.apk
arm64: [status=speed-profile] [reason=bg-dexopt]
```
Upvotes: 2 |
2022/09/04 | 242 | 954 | <issue_start>username_0: I have plenty of text messages for OTP or similar automated services on my Google Pixel 6. I'm doing some cleaning. How can one delete all text message threads except for a few ones on Pixel 6?<issue_comment>username_1: There exists no built-in solution to delete all text message threads except for a few ones on Pixel 6. Android does not offer any built-in solution for that use case.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Be aware in newer versions of Messages, you can go to
```
Profile Pic - Message Settings - Message Organization
```
and enable the option "Auto-delete OTPs after 24 hours"... this can help a lot.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/aupsR.png)
Otherwise Messages doesn't have the kind of granularity to mass delete multiple entire threads, you would have to switch to Textra or something like that to do that.
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer] |
2022/09/15 | 524 | 1,944 | <issue_start>username_0: I used <https://f-droid.org/> to search the F-Droid repository for an app and to download the respective APK file. I did find the app, however, the newest version has unwanted changes or requirements like a newer Android system version.
How can I download the previous/older versions of this app?<issue_comment>username_1: The APK files for old versions don't seem to be available/linked on the main homepage.
However, after doing some research, I found this forum post <https://forum.f-droid.org/t/archive-repositories/10556> which contains a list of all archive repositories, including the official F-Droid archive <https://f-droid.org/archive>.
Using <https://apt.izzysoft.de/fdroid/index/?repo=archive>, it is possible to browse said archive and download the APK file that you're looking for. You can verify that the actual download URL begins with `https://f-droid.org/archive/`.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: It is easy to install older versions, just from within the F-Droid app. From the specific page of the desired app on the device, scroll to its bottom, and open the directory node **"Versions"**, revealing previous F-Droid versions.
For example, on the main page just now, "Diary", a personal diary, has a version page with DOZENS of versions, (dated). Knowing the prior release date roughly will lead you to the version you want with an **"Install"** button.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: You can use the [WayBack Machine](https://archive.org/web/) website, I found some versions [here](https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.fdroid.fdroid/) for F-Droid and by plugging that into the Wayback Machine website I could get back to [earlier versions](https://web.archive.org/web/20210327135545/https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.fdroid.fdroid/), albeit some are not cached and cannot be accessed. I found that version 1.10 would download for example, is that old enough for you?
Upvotes: 1 |
2022/09/21 | 374 | 1,474 | <issue_start>username_0: When I restart my Samsung Galaxy S9, the screen timeout value changes to "**()**".
Notice that's not a zero; it's two parentheses. That's literally what appears in the settings. However, the phone must **think** of it as a zero, because the screen goes dark immediately when I'm not touching it (and then I have to enter my password again).
This setting change also happens if I have the Power Mode in "Maximum Power Saving" and I switch to a different Power Mode. I don't think it happens in Safe Mode.
This started happening a few months ago. It also happened with my old Galaxy S7; my solution was to get the S9. (JK, I had other reasons too.)
EDIT: Yes, Cody: I can set the timeout to any value, but when the phone restarts or comes out of "Maximum Power Saving", the timeout is reset to "**()**".<issue_comment>username_1: So, when you have set the timeout to be a longer length of time you see this issue? I assume you have tried rebooting your phone and trying software updates. If all else fails, you could try [resetting](https://www.verizon.com/support/knowledge-base-216579/) the phone.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Following @wbogacz's lead, I went to **Settings --> Apps --> Special Access --> Change system Settings.** I discovered that Avast Battery Saver had control over the timeout, so I revoked that privilege. (I think I could also have done it in the Avast app itself.)
That solved it.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer] |
2022/09/22 | 520 | 2,347 | <issue_start>username_0: At my school, when logging into wifi for the first time, we enter our ID & password into a normal wifi login page, then we download a certificate. I cannot confirm if the certificate changes depending on which student logs in. After downloading the certificate, we must install it as a **Trusted Root CA Certificate**. My Samsung phone says that "your network may be monitored" after installing this certificate.
My main question is if this can:
1. Allow the school to see what websites i visit
2. Cause security vulnerabilities
3. Slow down my web browsing
4. Route my internet traffic through a middle man
Thanks everyone for the help<issue_comment>username_1: It is unclear what the school says the certificate is for. It may be for WPA-Enterprise Wi-Fi authentication. It may also be for HTTPS interception. Please expand on that. Surely there’s some information on why you’re supposed to install the certificate…?
I will provide an answer about installing a CA certificate in the trusted root CA store. Going by the fact that it goes into the trusted root CA store, the certificate would not be unique per student.
---
There are two environments to consider. Your school network and other networks.
When you are connected to the school network, your school
* can intercept your connections, even when encrypted (see also last bullet)
* could accidentally leak the certificate’s private key
* can slow your web browsing either way
* can route your traffic any way they like, middle man or otherwise
Routing is unrelated to any certificates. Certificates are for *trust*. Having a CA certificate provided by the MITM installed makes security warnings go away, because you now trust the MITM.
When *not* connected to the school network
* the school cannot see where you browse
* the CA makes you more vulnerable (see above)
* browsing speed is unaffected
* the school cannot redirect or intercept your traffic
---
If you do not trust the school to properly manage this security-critical data, you should not *trust* their CA. This will probably make using their Wi-Fi impossible.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: The school certificate is probably to authenticate the connection. The school can't do anything other than that unless it has been enrolled in the organization.
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/09/25 | 1,094 | 3,705 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm getting very contradicting messages trying to run scrcpy wirelessly.
```
$ adb connect 192.168.1.200:5555
connected to 192.168.1.200:5555
$ adb devices
List of devices attached
192.168.1.200:5555 device
$ scrcpy
scrcpy 1.24
adb server version (41) doesn't match this client (39); killing...
\* daemon started successfully
ERROR: Could not find any ADB device
ERROR: Server connection failed
$ scrcpy --tcpip
scrcpy 1.24
ERROR: Could not find any ADB device
ERROR: Server connection failed
$ adb devices
adb server version (39) doesn't match this client (41); killing...
\* daemon started successfully
List of devices attached
```
At some point I succeeded to connect and run scrcpy. I disconnected and tried to run it again but no luck this time. I can't wrap my head around what's causing this.
```
$ whereis adb
adb: /usr/bin/adb /usr/share/man/man1/adb.1.gz
$ adb version
Android Debug Bridge version 1.0.41
Version 28.0.2-debian
Installed as /usr/lib/android-sdk/platform-tools/adb
```
I connected via USB to reenable adb over TCP/IP. Device IP doesn't show up. Previously device ID and IP were listed.
```
$ scrcpy --tcpip
scrcpy 1.24
INFO: Switching device J6AXB763C036R6E to TCP/IP...
ERROR: Device IP not found
ERROR: Server connection failed
$ adb tcpip 5555
adb server version (39) doesn't match this client (41); killing...
\* daemon started successfully
restarting in TCP mode port: 5555
$ adb devices
List of devices attached
J6AXB763C036R6E device
```
I tried again and failed.
```
$ adb kill-server
$ adb start-server
* daemon not running; starting now at tcp:5037
* daemon started successfully
$ adb devices
List of devices attached
$ adb connect 192.168.1.200:5555
connected to 192.168.1.200:5555
$ adb devices
List of devices attached
192.168.1.200:5555 device
$ scrcpy
scrcpy 1.24
adb server version (41) doesn't match this client (39); killing...
\* daemon started successfully
ERROR: Could not find any ADB device
ERROR: Server connection failed
```<issue_comment>username_1: It is unclear what the school says the certificate is for. It may be for WPA-Enterprise Wi-Fi authentication. It may also be for HTTPS interception. Please expand on that. Surely there’s some information on why you’re supposed to install the certificate…?
I will provide an answer about installing a CA certificate in the trusted root CA store. Going by the fact that it goes into the trusted root CA store, the certificate would not be unique per student.
---
There are two environments to consider. Your school network and other networks.
When you are connected to the school network, your school
* can intercept your connections, even when encrypted (see also last bullet)
* could accidentally leak the certificate’s private key
* can slow your web browsing either way
* can route your traffic any way they like, middle man or otherwise
Routing is unrelated to any certificates. Certificates are for *trust*. Having a CA certificate provided by the MITM installed makes security warnings go away, because you now trust the MITM.
When *not* connected to the school network
* the school cannot see where you browse
* the CA makes you more vulnerable (see above)
* browsing speed is unaffected
* the school cannot redirect or intercept your traffic
---
If you do not trust the school to properly manage this security-critical data, you should not *trust* their CA. This will probably make using their Wi-Fi impossible.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: The school certificate is probably to authenticate the connection. The school can't do anything other than that unless it has been enrolled in the organization.
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/10/03 | 460 | 2,005 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm connecting to a phone on OpenSTF via `adb`. Running
```
$ adb connect :
```
produces the message
```
failed to authenticate to :
```
However, `adb devices` shows the device and I can interact as expected with the phone. What does the authentication failure mean and should it concern me?<issue_comment>username_1: It is unclear what the school says the certificate is for. It may be for WPA-Enterprise Wi-Fi authentication. It may also be for HTTPS interception. Please expand on that. Surely there’s some information on why you’re supposed to install the certificate…?
I will provide an answer about installing a CA certificate in the trusted root CA store. Going by the fact that it goes into the trusted root CA store, the certificate would not be unique per student.
---
There are two environments to consider. Your school network and other networks.
When you are connected to the school network, your school
* can intercept your connections, even when encrypted (see also last bullet)
* could accidentally leak the certificate’s private key
* can slow your web browsing either way
* can route your traffic any way they like, middle man or otherwise
Routing is unrelated to any certificates. Certificates are for *trust*. Having a CA certificate provided by the MITM installed makes security warnings go away, because you now trust the MITM.
When *not* connected to the school network
* the school cannot see where you browse
* the CA makes you more vulnerable (see above)
* browsing speed is unaffected
* the school cannot redirect or intercept your traffic
---
If you do not trust the school to properly manage this security-critical data, you should not *trust* their CA. This will probably make using their Wi-Fi impossible.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: The school certificate is probably to authenticate the connection. The school can't do anything other than that unless it has been enrolled in the organization.
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/10/12 | 435 | 1,978 | <issue_start>username_0: I am trying to avoid any kind of sexual stimulation and want to block video content on any browser. I was looking for browsers which provide this functionality but could not find one. These are the browsers which I found
1. Atlas Browser
2. Lightning Browser
3. No image Browser
4. Habit Browser
All these browsers block only images in the browser. But I need a specific one which can block videos only. Finally, I found one such that blocks both images and videos but this functionality cannot be separated. The browser is Purity - Safe Porn less Browser.
I want to know if this functionality is separatable? Can we block images and videos separately? This browser needs subscription ; so does anyone know about any such browser that does not support flash or video files.
Important question : Can we practically block images and videos separately or are they correlated?<issue_comment>username_1: I dont know any browsers, but if your phone is rooted and have magisk installed you could install energized protection a magisk module to completely block sexual contents on your device, so even if you search for it on any browser in your phone no results will showing up..
P.s i have tested this method with chrome browser and it works, and should work with any other major browser too.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: I found a solution with help of username_3's comment. We can disable all video codecs and permanently lock this setting using various blockers available on Playstore such as BlockerX and Blockerhero. I added *about:config* to the blocked keywords and now I am totally blocked out of this setting.
This blocking codec thing did not work well with youtube but somehow solved my problem. Anybody looking for a solution can give it a try.
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: Have you tried the "Text Mode" extension from the Google Play store for Chrome, blocks images, videos and flash content.
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/10/17 | 619 | 2,447 | <issue_start>username_0: How can I open embedded audio or video files in Word documents? I can play their audio/video files on my computer when I open the document with Microsoft Office, but on my phone, I can just see the text on the files.<issue_comment>username_1: Doesn't seem to be possible for Word and PDF files due to imposed limitations of the OS and creators of that software, but however does seem to work for [html5](https://stackoverflow.com/a/35374889)
[Audio](https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_audio.asp)
[Video](https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_video.asp)
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: I'm asserting that Microsoft Corporation has not ported this feature to their MS Office and Word apps. Why they have not implemented this feature since so long so is not something I would delve into. My assertion is based on the following arguments I'm providing.
The "technical limitations" mentioned in a [thread](https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/how-to-enable-the-audio-file-mpeg4-to-work-on/84d036f7-f443-4630-882c-b608ed86a225) on Microsoft Answers forum has not been explained or discussed. AFAIK, no such limitation exist. Much like how MS Word operates on the Desktop by downloading the embedded media and playing it in an external app/program, MS Word for Android can do the same. In Android, MS Word has to download the media in a location where third-party apps can access it. Download or Document folder under Internal Storage (/sdcard) can be used for this. MS Word can then fire an intent so that relevant apps which can open the downloaded media can play it, or alternatively, show up as options to the user to choose from to play the media with.
If the privacy or confidentiality of embedded media is a concern for not allowing third-party apps to access embedded media, and hence, dropping the feature altogether, than MS Word can create a proprietary or FOSS -- to reduce development costs -- audio and video player and ask the user to install it. This extension app coming from Microsoft can be programmed to have access to private data of MS Word app. This way, privacy and confidentiality concerns would be alleviated since the player would be Microsoft owned and verified.
I'm not an Android developer but I do think that porting this feature is possible. This is a matter of "when this feature would be ported", and not "whether this can be ported or not".
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer] |
2022/10/20 | 411 | 1,661 | <issue_start>username_0: I have changed some security settings in my Android yesterday (I don't remember which one). Today most of the pages show "insecure connection" in Opera. I cannot even go to youtubel.com
Everything opens as normal in Firefox.
I've reinstalled Opera, but the problem remains.
How can I undo this?<issue_comment>username_1: I'd say the reason re-installing Opera didn't fix it is because your probably still using the same profile. Let me put it this way, when you re-installed you still had all your bookmarks still without having to import them again... ergo same profile.
Did you try going into Settings, Advanced and then click on Reset Settings (which restore settings to their original defaults)?
If you don't have that option or that doesn't work for you, do a backup of your bookmarks, et cetera and then create a new profile. Try entering opera:about in the url bar and then see if it tells you where your profile is located, close Opera, navigate to that location and delete everything. Upon re-opening Opera it should create a new profile.
I assume this is regular Opera and not Opera GX, you may want to have a look at [this](https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2022/03/opera-gx-gx-profiles-video-pickup/) if switching between profiles sounds good to you.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: I've fiddled with the problem for a couple of days.
My working solution was to backup my files, reset to factory defaults, reinstall apps (took 1-2 hours).
---
Update: @Irfan Latif is correct. These were indeed the security -> trusted credentials. That comment should have being the accepted answer.
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer] |
2022/10/20 | 500 | 2,086 | <issue_start>username_0: Samsung A10 with Android 11. Nor Viber, nor Telegram shows incoming call when they are not active. I mean, that if the messenger is open (in memory) and it is currently being used (focused) then incoming call is shown. However, if another application is used (but messenger is still open) then incoming call is not shown.
I think, the problem is that when messenger is not active it loses internet connection, because when Telegram becomes active (user switched to Telegram) it shows in the title "Connecting". Viber also shows something similar.
This is my mother's phone. It worked well before, but something happened. Either she changed some settings or the problem in updates.
Could anyone help to fix this problem?<issue_comment>username_1: I'd say the reason re-installing Opera didn't fix it is because your probably still using the same profile. Let me put it this way, when you re-installed you still had all your bookmarks still without having to import them again... ergo same profile.
Did you try going into Settings, Advanced and then click on Reset Settings (which restore settings to their original defaults)?
If you don't have that option or that doesn't work for you, do a backup of your bookmarks, et cetera and then create a new profile. Try entering opera:about in the url bar and then see if it tells you where your profile is located, close Opera, navigate to that location and delete everything. Upon re-opening Opera it should create a new profile.
I assume this is regular Opera and not Opera GX, you may want to have a look at [this](https://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2022/03/opera-gx-gx-profiles-video-pickup/) if switching between profiles sounds good to you.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: I've fiddled with the problem for a couple of days.
My working solution was to backup my files, reset to factory defaults, reinstall apps (took 1-2 hours).
---
Update: @I<NAME> is correct. These were indeed the security -> trusted credentials. That comment should have being the accepted answer.
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer] |
2022/10/20 | 858 | 3,407 | <issue_start>username_0: I have so many tabs open in Chrome that I have been literally unable to close them, and my browser has been rendered largely useless. HELP!
The central problem is that the focus bounces from tab to tab so fast that I can not stay on any one tab long enough to close it. In addition the "three dots" menu in the upper right, which I believe is supposed to have a "close all tabs" button, does only on rare occasions. I do not know what determines if this button is present or how to get it back when it is not. I'd accept an answer to any one of these questions), except: not 1) if there is no way to navigate to the "close all tabs" button.
1. Is there a map somewhere that shows which Chrome controls are available under what circumstances, so I can navigate
to the "close all tabs" button?
2. Is there a way to freeze tabs in place, so that the focus changes only when I select a different tab? This is what I want most, because I would like to be able to open a tab and look at it, and sometimes save some info., before deciding if I want to close it.
3. Is there a way to make the "close all tabs" button appear when it is not on the three dots menu?
4. If there is no easy way to solve this with native Chrome, is there an app that would let me do so? If it does not provide a way to freeze the tabs in place, it has to work even though the focus is bouncing rapidly from tab to tab.
I'm on a Moto G with Stylus 5G running Android 12, with security updates to August 2022
Thanks! I look forward to hearing from you.
}
--andrewH<issue_comment>username_1: Use [Tasker](https://tasker.joaoapps.com/) and create a task using [AutoInput](https://joaoapps.com/autoinput/) that will perform the tab closing for you.
The task could be configured to close all tabs, close the current tab, close x tabs, etc. You could trigger it from an icon, or even using your voice once you were familiar with the tools.
Please note there may be very small costs for these apps but they are entirely worth it.
**Tasker**
Tasker is an application for Android which performs tasks (sets of actions) based on contexts (application, time, date, location, event, gesture) in user-defined profiles or in clickable or timer home screen widgets.
**AutoInput**
AutoInput enables you to interact with any Android app automatically.
**UI Query**
Feature of AutoInput that allows you to query another app's screen for whatever it's showing, (buttons, text fields etc).
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: How about just killing all the tabs via adb using the command:
```
adb shell am force-stop com.android.chrome
```
Use adb by plugging the tablet/phone into a PC and using CMD.EXE (Windows PC) to issue the command from the folder you unzipped the [Android SDK Platform Tools](https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools) to. Hopefully you have USB debugging enabled on your device, you may get a prompt upon plugging your phone into your PC that you may use to enable USB Debugging. To make sure adb is running issue the command:
```
adb devices
```
Which will show your device, if not you may need your phone/tablet' drivers and install them through device manager.
The use of `adb shell` allows you to run the specified shell command on your device, `am` is activity manager, `force-stop` is the command and that's followed by the app you want to stop
Upvotes: 1 |
2022/11/11 | 514 | 2,059 | <issue_start>username_0: My S10 always freezes on startup, because of an update. It just doesn’t reach the end of the loading bar. I know I could wipe the data via recovery, but I want the pictures back at least.<issue_comment>username_1: Use [Tasker](https://tasker.joaoapps.com/) and create a task using [AutoInput](https://joaoapps.com/autoinput/) that will perform the tab closing for you.
The task could be configured to close all tabs, close the current tab, close x tabs, etc. You could trigger it from an icon, or even using your voice once you were familiar with the tools.
Please note there may be very small costs for these apps but they are entirely worth it.
**Tasker**
Tasker is an application for Android which performs tasks (sets of actions) based on contexts (application, time, date, location, event, gesture) in user-defined profiles or in clickable or timer home screen widgets.
**AutoInput**
AutoInput enables you to interact with any Android app automatically.
**UI Query**
Feature of AutoInput that allows you to query another app's screen for whatever it's showing, (buttons, text fields etc).
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: How about just killing all the tabs via adb using the command:
```
adb shell am force-stop com.android.chrome
```
Use adb by plugging the tablet/phone into a PC and using CMD.EXE (Windows PC) to issue the command from the folder you unzipped the [Android SDK Platform Tools](https://developer.android.com/studio/releases/platform-tools) to. Hopefully you have USB debugging enabled on your device, you may get a prompt upon plugging your phone into your PC that you may use to enable USB Debugging. To make sure adb is running issue the command:
```
adb devices
```
Which will show your device, if not you may need your phone/tablet' drivers and install them through device manager.
The use of `adb shell` allows you to run the specified shell command on your device, `am` is activity manager, `force-stop` is the command and that's followed by the app you want to stop
Upvotes: 1 |
2022/11/15 | 794 | 3,117 | <issue_start>username_0: On an Android phone I [had to](https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/41931/can-apps-update-without-google-account) log in to my Gmail account to update an app via the "Play Store".
I noticed (to my extreme annoyance) all my emails appearing as notifications on the phone's front screen.
Once I was done, I logged out of the account, via Settings > Users & accounts > Remove account.
The notifications of my emails did not disappear, but I then cleared them manually. As a precaution, I checked the Gmail app, and it appears to have downloaded a total copy of my entire email history into some kind of cache.
On my computer, I removed forcibly signed the phone out, but this had no effect.
The Google help page ["Sign out of Gmail"](https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8154?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&oco=1) says:
>
> The only way to sign out of the Gmail app is to remove your entire account from your phone or tablet.
>
>
>
That is what I did.
I assumed there must be a glitch. I guess Google never tested this properly, because, they figure, who would want to log out from *us*?
So I logged into the account again. This time, to sign out, I went *via* the Gmail app itself.
This successfully cleared it, and when I went back into the Gmail app, it showed no emails and asked me to set up an account. Thank goodness.
Still paranoid, I switched the phone off and on again. **The Gmail app now shows everything again.** The phone is not logged in, it is disconnected from wi-fi, checking on a computer shows the phone has been signed out.
The Gmail app shows every message I ever sent or received, without any password. This is a shared phone. It gives no option to sign out, because the accounts page says I have no account signed in.
What do I do?<issue_comment>username_1: I believe I've worked around the problem:
Settings > Storage -> Other Apps -> Gmail
Click "Clear Cache" and "Clear Data".
The storage usage amount reassuringly decreased, and the app no longer shows my emails.
As a precaution, I did this for every other stock app on the phone also, some of which also appeared to have a large amount of saved "user data", despite the phone only ever being purchased and used for 1 banking app.
As an additional paranoid step, I then created and logged into a blank throwaway account, logged out of it and deleted all the data again.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: [username_1's answer](https://android.stackexchange.com/a/249248/) should help, but I prefer to even *disable* the application. When you uninstall GMail application updates (that can be found in the same screen from which you uninstall it, on some Android versions as a button, on other in a menu), you can disable the application (the button should appear where the uninstall button is for uninstallable apps). Unless you enable the application again, there will be no GMail application available for use on your device.
Beware of that the Play Store *can enable* applications. I recommend disabling Play store app too, unless you are going to use it in near future.
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/11/18 | 399 | 1,703 | <issue_start>username_0: Problem
=======
The data on my phone is encrypted and I do not know how to flash something without decrypting it by using `Disable Force Encryption`.
When the data partition is decrypted I can just copy a file to be flashed to data, boot to recovery and flash it via recovery. But if the data partition is encrypted I cannot find/flash that file in recovery<issue_comment>username_1: I believe I've worked around the problem:
Settings > Storage -> Other Apps -> Gmail
Click "Clear Cache" and "Clear Data".
The storage usage amount reassuringly decreased, and the app no longer shows my emails.
As a precaution, I did this for every other stock app on the phone also, some of which also appeared to have a large amount of saved "user data", despite the phone only ever being purchased and used for 1 banking app.
As an additional paranoid step, I then created and logged into a blank throwaway account, logged out of it and deleted all the data again.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: [username_1's answer](https://android.stackexchange.com/a/249248/) should help, but I prefer to even *disable* the application. When you uninstall GMail application updates (that can be found in the same screen from which you uninstall it, on some Android versions as a button, on other in a menu), you can disable the application (the button should appear where the uninstall button is for uninstallable apps). Unless you enable the application again, there will be no GMail application available for use on your device.
Beware of that the Play Store *can enable* applications. I recommend disabling Play store app too, unless you are going to use it in near future.
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/11/21 | 450 | 1,784 | <issue_start>username_0: How can I suppress notifications, such as Amber alerts, on Android 11? I am getting numerous alerts for which I can do nothing, but my peace is being interrupted by these irrelevant alerts.<issue_comment>username_1: Open Setttings -> Notifications -> Wireless emergency alerts, set `AMBER alerts` to off.
Assuming you are using Google Messages:
1. Press the profile, then Messages settings.
2. Press Advanced -> Wireless emergency alerts. Press the 3-dots, select Alert preferences.
3. Emergency alerts opens. Set `AMBER alerts` to off. Or you can just switch off `Allow alerts`.
Optionally, you can also switch off `Extreme threats` and `Severe threats`.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: On the Home Screen, swipe up to show the list of installed Apps, search for "Messages" and open the "Messages" app.
Tap the 3 vertical dots "..." next to the magnifying glass (upper-right corner of the screen) and select "Settings".
Select "Emergency alert settings"
Select "Emergency alerts"
You can now uncheck "Extreme alerts", "Severe alerts", and "AMBER alerts".
---
*Verified on Android 9, but provided here in the hope it will be helpful to others, as these steps are somewhat arcane, and searching in settings yields no results.*
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: The exact method will vary by device, but the general steps are:
1. Go to the Settings app
2. Select "Apps & notifications", or your device's equivalent category containing notification preferences.
3. Select "Wireless emergency alerts", which may be under Advanced.
4. Toggle the alerts that you wish to receive on/off.
Alternatively, if your OEM moved the category for the alerts, you can use the settings app's search bar to search for "Wireless emergency alerts".
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/11/21 | 1,136 | 4,693 | <issue_start>username_0: I just switched from an iPhone to a Pixel. Whenever I try to open a PDF document, the browser automatically downloads it and ask me to open it elsewhere. I don't want that; I want an in-browser PDF view. Also it's not specific to browsers: the Gmail app, the Telegram app, almost any app is like that. Do I need to install a system plugin/extension or something?
Edit 1: can you "hack" the pdf feature into the [webview](https://developer.android.com/reference/android/webkit/WebView) by e.g. rooting the phone?
Edit 2: as I understand from the answers it's the AOSP developers' intention to make the pdf feature unavailable, contrary to say legal reason with adobe?<issue_comment>username_1: **Short answer:**
Install a PDF reader app to your device. Or find a browser (or other app) which suits your needs.
**Long answer:**
Android from the start has a concept called [Intents](https://developer.android.com/training/basics/intents/sending), which means one app could use a different app to handle specific task like 'open email app to start a message' or 'play a video'. This also means if a document format has a version 2 / or additional features, the receiver app could be updated to handle it.
The downside is Android devices need to have an app installed capable of reading the file/intent/URI passed to it.
From what I understand iOS only added [Universal Links](https://stackoverflow.com/a/36019359/295004) in iOS 9 which could provide similar behavior. Since Apple provides a [PDF viewer in their UIWebview/WkWebview](https://stackoverflow.com/q/2832245/295004) I expect any app on iOS to use the existing iOS framework as cross-app interaction had additional requirements.
Given that any additional feature (like displaying PDF) will add size to the original app, in the early days it was better to have a distinct separate app. Didn't need the feature, you didn't need to download anything which could cost valuable data airtime or take up space in your phone and possibly avoid having a duplicated function in different apps. Understandably modern phone have lots of storage space but in the end Android has had a guiding principle via the Intent system to leave the ability to read/play any document (PDF, office file, video, audio) to those apps who can specifically handle those file formats.
**Answers to Edit1 and Edit2 by OP:**
**Edit1 response:** "Rooting" won't give you additional features in any browser/app as adding features involves deep changes to the app requiring software development time. If you want a well integrated PDF viewer in a browser app, you'll have to find one. Opera has been suggested. This would be the same with any other messaging/communications app for any particular file or action, i.e. you don't expect it to view spreadsheets or handle geographic mapping. The advantage of Android is that you are free to change which app handles the action and get a better experience rather than be limited to any prebuilt apps (which iOS limits).
**Edit2 response:** Manufacturers are free to add in their own PDF/Document viewers for their particular flavor of Android. AOSP just provides the environment. PDF at this point is a [mix of open and proprietary parts](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_PDF) so depending on the document version any PDF rendering engine may encounter difficulties. Additionally PDF is trying to display text/images in a particular way including fonts. This now means that any app embedding a PDF engine will need be aware of security attacks. See my answer to [Why has Android made it impossible to install system fonts?](https://android.stackexchange.com/q/247123/3573) on how fonts can pose a security risk. Browsers given their sandbox nature displaying arbitrary HTML and Javascript code are attentive to security, other apps perhaps not so much as it is not a core product feature.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Your premise is wrong.
Android browsers [absolutely can display PDFs](https://blogs.opera.com/mobile/2019/05/the-new-opera-browser-for-android-52-comes-now-with-pdf-handling-and-improved-vpn/).
However, the application design paradigm in Android is fairly Unixy in that applications are generally designed to do one thing (i.e. browse the web) and do it well. If they need something else doing (i.e. reading a PDF), they pass that on to another application to handle (whose sole purpose is handling that other thing) using [intents](https://developer.android.com/training/basics/intents/sending).
Just because that's the typical design paradigm, doesn't mean that developers couldn't choose to eschew it, as in Opera's case.
Upvotes: 4 |
2022/11/25 | 1,015 | 4,236 | <issue_start>username_0: I have about 50 industrial machines (mostly CNC controlled by a PLC). They have ethernet jacks, with an existing IP address set. I need to connect them to the main building's network (which uses an entirely different IP scheme). I have accomplished this with a few machines by installing an industrial router in the machine, and using the router's NAT to bridge the two networks. It works well, but requires a router that costs around $400, requires an electrician to install, and requires downtime on the machine.
However, each of these machines has a Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 or Samsung Active Pro tablet mounted to it, connected to the building's WiFi. I have full control over the tablets, I can root them if needed.
I am wondering if I attach an ethernet adapter to the tablet's USB-C port (I've found a few that have pass-thru charging), then plug the ethernet cable into the CNC/PLC if there is a way I can bridge the wireless connection, and also have some NAT to do the address translation and forward the needed ports.
Changing IP addresses on the machine is not an option, and altering the building's network is not an option.
I have no need for DHCP, and only a couple of devices are on the ethernet side.
Has anyone done this?
Additional info:
I am fully aware that wiring each machine would be ideal, but it is not feasible. To show why, I’m putting some numbers below. This application is theoretical at this point, we have a small amount of data we want to relay to an on-site server, which is then parsed and displayed on the tablets. If the testing works, we’d look into customized android powered hardware in place of the tablets.
50 machines total (at this site)
$2,000 per minute downtime
30 minutes required to install cable (remove guarding and wire covers, run through tracks, replace covers)
$60,000 downtime (30 min x $2,000)
$250 per cable to run
$2,500 two engineers to review changes to networking and resign/recertify safety)
$62,750 / machine
$3,137,500 / site
So they can spend 3 million per location and risk angry customers from downtime or they can relay some data via some android tablets.
The data is not mission critical, it is used to monitor efficiency. If there are network issues the worst that happens is the data is reported when the connection is restored.<issue_comment>username_1: Honestly, I don't think using the tablets as routers is a very good way to do this due to the complexity and you essentially having dozens of tiny networks interconnected for no advantage. Why can't you just use VLAN's in the network and build one interconnecting route? This sounds like a basic network setup question.
Basically in your primary router for your network (usually, could be the switch as well) you would build a second "CNC" VLAN that matches the IP scheme of the CNC machines, and you assign switch ports to connect them to the network on the correct CNC VLAN. Then the router would just allow the two networks to communicate via the primary gateway (the router) for each network.
This is a very common setup actually. How exactly it would be implemented would vary a lot based on your equipment. This could be done via dedicated hardware (like one switch just for the CNC equipment) or by assigning ports of an existing switch to be untagged into the CNC VLAN.
This would allow for minimal new equipment and simple network routing, and minimal complexity while maintaining network security... Which is preferred in network setup.
I think adding additional routers or using the tablets/phones connected to each device as a routing device would add a level of complexity that would be quite a headache, especially later on.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Because I posted a simple question, I will post the simple answer I have found.
The answer to the question is yes, Android tablets can work as an access point when combined with a usb ethernet adapter.
They must be rooted in order for it to work, once rooted, the nat/port forwarding can be managed from iptables.
How well it performs obviously depends on the existing wifi network, the quality of the tablet, the number of devices connected, and the amount of network traffic.
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/12/05 | 1,144 | 3,689 | <issue_start>username_0: This is my first time attempting anything Android. I have installed Android Studio 2021.3.1 Patch 1 on Ubuntu 22.04 and created an Empty Compose Activity as a test.
The Device Manager looks like this
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/XJHw6.png)
But when I try to run it I get
```
The emulator process for AVD Pixel_XL_API_33 has terminated
```
idea.log contains
```
INFO - Emulator: Pixel XL API 33 - [...]android-sdk/emulator/emulator -netdelay none -netspeed full -avd Pixel_XL_API_33 -qt-hide-window -grpc-use-token -idle-grpc-timeout 300
INFO - Emulator: Pixel XL API 33 - Android emulator version 192.168.127.12 (build_id 9189900) (CL:N/A)
INFO - Emulator: Pixel XL API 33 - emulator: INFO: Found systemPath [...]/android-sdk/system-images/android-33/google_apis/x86_64/
WARN - Emulator: Pixel XL API 33 - Failed to process .ini file ~/.android/avd/Pixel_XL_API_33.avd/quickbootChoice.ini for reading.
WARN - Emulator: Pixel XL API 33 - cannot add library [...]/android-sdk/emulator/qemu/linux-x86_64/lib64/vulkan/libvulkan.so: failed
INFO - Emulator: Pixel XL API 33 - WARNING: lavapipe is not a conformant vulkan implementation, testing use only.
INFO - Emulator: Pixel XL API 33 - Process finished with exit code 139 (interrupted by signal 11: SIGSEGV)
ERROR - Emulator: Pixel XL API 33 - Emulator terminated with exit code 139
```
This happens with Android 5.0 and 8.1 projects.
As per [this question](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/68741533/android-emulator-does-not-start-after-arctic-fox-upgrade-libvulkan-so-failed) I have tried `sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall` which gives
```
"/usr/bin/ubuntu-drivers", line 187, in command_install
UbuntuDrivers.detect.nvidia_desktop_pre_installation_hook(to_install)
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/UbuntuDrivers/detect.py", line 839, in nvidia_desktop_pre_installation_hook
with_nvidia_kms = version >= 470
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'version' referenced before assignment
```
and `mesa-vulkan-drivers` are already installed.
How do I fix this error and run a basic project out-of-the-box in an emulator on Linux?<issue_comment>username_1: I don't really have a solution, but a workaround: I had the same problem on openSUSE Leap 15.4 and could solve it by choosing "Software - GLES 2.0" for "Emulated Performance" when creating an emulated device.
It seems, the problem with libvulkan.so only occurs when using "Hardware - GLES 2.0" or "Automatic" which in my case seems to also choose the Hardware setting.
So as I said, I don't know how to fix the problem with hardware rendering, but for me the software rendering is good enough, though probably slightly slower.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: If `mesa-vulkan-drivers` is already installed (`sudo apt install mesa-vulkan-drivers`)
* try to update your NVIDIA driver: `sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall`
* then **reboot** your system
---
If the `ubuntu-driver` command fails with this error:
```
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'version' referenced before assignment
```
You can try the fix from [here](https://askubuntu.com/a/1437985/650800) but in my case it selected a driver which did not recognize my display anymore (wrong resolution), so I selected the latest proprietary driver myself:
* Open "Additional Drivers" in the Ubuntu Launcher
* Select the latest proprietary driver listed here
* `Apply` (this takes a while) and reboot your system
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/u7qvO.png)
*Tested on Ubuntu 22.04*
Upvotes: 1 |
2022/12/06 | 2,526 | 9,342 | <issue_start>username_0: Germany is preparing to use **cell broadcast messages for emergency warnings** issued by the government. A first country-wide test is planned for December 8, 2022 as part of the [Nationwide Alert Day 2022](https://warnung-der-bevoelkerung.de/en/).
Many publications claim that reception of these cell broadcast messages will only work under **Android 11 or newer**:
* [Warnsystem Cell Broadcast: Deshalb erhalten alle Handynutzer JETZT eine SMS von ihrem Provider](https://www.netzwelt.de/news/209820-warnsystem-cell-broadcast-erhalten-handynutzer-sms-ihrem-provider.html)
* [Cell Broadcast: Kaum kompatible Smartphones – Generalprobe verschoben](https://stadt-bremerhaven.de/cell-broadcasts-kaum-kompatible-smartphones-generalprobe-verschoben/)
* This discussion on XDA Forums also mentions problems: [CellBroadcast and Emergency Warnings on Android - is it a mess?](https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/cellbroadcast-and-emergency-warnings-on-android-is-it-a-mess.4458307/)
However, as far as I understand, the underlying technical standard is about 20 years old, and Android has supported cell broadcast for ages ([since at least Jelly Bean](https://www.droid-life.com/2012/08/30/cell-broadcast-settings-menu-came-with-jelly-bean-for-verizons-galaxy-nexus/) / V4.1, release 2012).
**So why should there be a problem with Android versions before 11?**<issue_comment>username_1: That's not an easy to answer question. According to [reporting](https://logbuch-netzpolitik.de/lnp431-petzprovider#comment-180583 "mentioned report under a podcast from which I first heard about the issue") Germany extended the GSM standard that already was provided by most mobile phone vendors, by insisting on a message-identifier length of four instead of three digits. Germany formerly relied on a bunch of apps like
* NINA
* BIWAPP
* Katwarn
to only name the best known ones. Neither of them were widespread enough to provide propper warnings for all citizens, nevertheless the Bundesamt für Bevölkerungsschutz und Katastrophenhilfe (BBK) pushed for these apps instead of an app-independent solution so much that some vendors even removed the CBS functionality completely if the device ought to be sold in Germany (my LG for example does not provide it). This would be another obstacle to overcome now anyways.
Interestingly enough does section 9.4.1.2.2 of TS 123 041 specify the four digit message-identfier 4370 to 4393 used by DE-Alert even in version V11.4.0 of 2012 for PWS/EU-Alert. So why this shouldn't be implemented in most phones for years, I don't understand. Perhaps I have misread the whole thing but for me it represents as a lack of pressure from other countries to implement the standard. Additionally, as the working group for critical infrastructure (AG Kritis) in Germany states: the practice (in other countries) in the past were three digit message-identifier (reserved for operator messages according to TS 123 041). **But** the BBK amended it's requirements in a way that older devices would also receive a message-id 919 in parallel for highest severity, unfortunately they did this too late for other providers than T-Mobile to comply before alert day was due.
---
TL;DR: Other countries used existing functionality in phones to implement PWS while Germany relied on apps for years. Which is the reason they decided to drop backward functionality for older phones until it was too late for the test on alert day.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sources:
* [Technical realization of Cell Broadcast Service TS 123 041](https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/123000_123099/123041/11.04.00_60/ts_123041v110400p.pdf)
* [Technical realization of European Public Warning System](https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/102900_102999/102900/01.03.01_60/ts_102900v010301p.pdf)
* [Technical realization of DE-Alert](https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Anbieterpflichten/OeffentlicheSicherheit/DEAlert/TR_DE-Alert_Ausgabe_1-0.pdf)
* [Press release of AG Kritis](https://ag.kritis.info/tag/cell-broadcast/)
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: *I'll try to answer my own question :-)*
tl;dr
-----
This seems to be a misunderstanding. **With Android 11 or later, cell broadcast messages for emergency warnings are pretty much guaranteed to work, but they work on many devices with older versions, too.**
---
Source of the claim
-------------------
This claim seems to be based on a misunderstanding - probably some press release that got misquoted or incorrectly abbreviated somewhere along the line.
It is unclear where this claim originated. Many news sources have published it (see links in question), but the sources I found all do not attribute the claim, and use similar wording, so they probably copied it from some press release or article somewhere. The official site of the responsible German government agency (*Bundesamt für Bevölkerungsschutz und Katastrophenhilfe* - <https://www.bbk.bund.de/> ) does not mention Android 11 specifically - instead, it lists individual phone models that are or are not supported ([Kann mein Gerät Cell Broadcast empfangen?](https://www.bbk.bund.de/SharedDocs/FAQs/DE/Cell-Broadcast/faq_cell-broadcast-020.html?nn=20022)).
Technical details
-----------------
* Each Cell Broadcast message contains a "message identifier" or "message ID" (also called a "channel" on some phones), a number from 0-65535. That message identifier tells the phone the type and content of the message, such as a weather report, a technical message, or a warning message.
* For emergency warnings, specific message IDs have been reserved for different types of warnings, in particular IDs 4352 – 6399. The technology, along with the message IDs, is contained in the standard ETSI TS 123 041, at least since [version 9.2.0](https://www.etsi.org/deliver/etsi_ts/123000_123099/123041/09.02.00_60/ts_123041v090200p.pdf), published in January 2010. The new German warning system, specified in the offical standard [Technische Richtlinie DE-Alert](https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Anbieterpflichten/OeffentlicheSicherheit/DEAlert/Downlaod_TR-DE-Alert_1.1_Final.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=2), basically follows this standard.
* Support for emergency warnings via Cell Broadcast mainly requires that the phone reacts to Cell Broadcast messages with these message IDs. The offical Android source code has supported these emergency warning message IDs since at least V4.2/Jelly Bean (see [source code](https://cs.android.com/android/platform/superproject/+/android-4.2.2_r1.1:frameworks/opt/telephony/src/java/com/android/internal/telephony/gsm/SmsCbConstants.java;l=58)).
Conclusion
----------
The offical Android source code (as published by the [Android Open Source Project](https://source.android.com/)) has supported cell broadcast emergency warnings with the standardized message IDs since at least V4.2/Jelly Bean, so **in principle emergency warnings should work at least with all phones running Jelly Bean or later**..
**However**, phone manufacturers (and even mobile network operators supplying phones to customers) can and do customize the official Android source code they put on their devices. It is *possible* that some of them removed or deactivated warning messages, either entirely, or specifically for German phone networks, as these warnings were not previously used in Germany. For example, on older Samsung phones warnings are supported, but must be manually activated ([offical Samsung page](https://www.samsung.com/de/support/mobile-devices/notfallbenachrichtigung/)).
This **changed with Android 11**. Before, emergency warning support was part of the general source code, which manufacturers modify and ship to end users. In Android 11, a new [Cell Broadcast module](https://source.android.com/docs/core/ota/modular-system/cellbroadcast) was introduced. While the actual functionality seems mostly unchanged, the new module can be **updated individually by Google** via OTA updates (specifically as an [APEX package](https://source.android.com/docs/core/ota/apex)). That means Google can push updates without requiring a complete Android OS update, and independently of the manufacturers (who may not want to provide updates for old phones).
That means that phones which
* run Android 11 or later, and
* are up to date with Google updates
are practically guaranteed to support emergency warnings, as Google has provided a suitable update. However, many phones running Android 4.2 or later also support these warnings.
Check settings
--------------
To see if your device supports warning messages, check Android settings, or the message app settings (depending on device).
If the configuration is available in the settings (look for a section called "emergency alerts" or "wireless emergency alerts"), and if the alerts are activated there, the phone will most likely support the warnings (unless the manufacturer made complicated changes, which is possible but unlikely).
Upvotes: 2 |
2022/12/12 | 306 | 986 | <issue_start>username_0: Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, this icon (a gear with a ladybug? The sun holding the letter T?) suddenly appeared on my "swipe to unlock" screen.
Now the touchscreen is unresponsive and can't enter recovery mode. The only thing I can do is a soft reset.<issue_comment>username_1: It's a notification icon for "USB for file transfer". I see it only if the USB cable is plugged in between the phone and the PC, while I restart the phone.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/Fn3hD.jpg)
Reference: [The Complete Guide To Icons on Android Devices](https://www.urtech.ca/2020/08/solved-the-complete-guide-to-icons-on-android-devices/)
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: It can be also a notification for Android System, e.g. after the device restart while finishing a system update.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/M2vxO.jpg)
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/12/13 | 331 | 1,273 | <issue_start>username_0: How can I view which app has the permission to turn on and off the location in Android? I use a Samsung Galaxy S9 phone with Android 10.<issue_comment>username_1: try settings > privacy > manage permissions > location>
you should be displayed a list of the apps
Always allowed >
Allowed during the use>
Not allowed>
**I suggest you tick the three horizontal dots on up right side of the screen to display the system processes also**
and if if you don't know wtf that specific service is just make a search on google, that will keep you entertained for a while, it does for me hahah!
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: As an answer to your [comment](https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/249642#comment336067_249642), you can use [PermissionManagerX](https://github.com/mirfatif/PermissionManagerX). If your device isn't rooted, you can grant elevated privileges using ADB (instructions in app help). But elevated privileges are not required if you only want to see the list of permissions.
Search for `android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS` permission to get the list of apps:
To view also the system and framework apps, disable exclusion filters in drawer -> Exclusion Filters.
Upvotes: 2 |
2022/12/24 | 812 | 2,907 | <issue_start>username_0: My friend purchased a new tablet, "Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite", to replace their current "Samsung Galaxy Tab A (2016)".
I am trying to help them move WhatsApp over. However, all my installation attempts are installing a weird beta version of WhatsApp that acts like "WhatsApp Web" only.
In other words, instead of asking for a phone number upon first access, it is showing me a QR code and requesting me to go to the other device and link it, just like WhatsApp Web does.
What I want is to make the new tablet the new "main" WhatsApp application, replacing the current tablet. How to do this?<issue_comment>username_1: Whatsapp is linked to the mobile number. If you install it on a non-mobile device, then it can only be a mimic of another device.
That is why it's behaving like a web version. This version has to link to a main device with a sim card / phone number.
You may have to wait a while for the truly windows version, according to this report from [indianexpress](https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/social/why-we-need-whatsapp-web-to-work-without-a-phone-5859987/)
>
> Facebook-owned WhatsApp is reportedly working on a desktop version of the app that may allow users to use the messaging platform even when the phone is not connected to the internet. The information comes from a reliable leaker WABetaInfo, which claimed that WhatsApp is building a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) that would work even when the phone is off.
>
>
> For those who don’t know; WhatsApp can be accessed on a computer via WhatsApp Web app for PC or web.whatsapp.com address on a browser. All you need to do is log-in into the WhatsApp Web and you will be able to receive and send messages via PC without the need to touch your phone.
>
>
> However, in order to use WhatsApp on PC, you need to have WhatsApp installed on your phone and the device must have internet connectivity.
>
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Additionally, Whatsapp can no longer be installed on several phones after Nov 2021.
>
> Currently, we provide support for and recommend using the following devices:
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> Android running OS 4.1 and newer
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> iPhone running iOS 12 and newer
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> KaiOS 2.5.0 and newer, including JioPhone and JioPhone 2
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>
>
from [Whatsapp faq](https://faq.whatsapp.com/1150261202542208/?locale=en_US)
On another site, `S3 mini` is listed as one of the devices that it will not work on. If your tablet has a lower version of android, then try to update it first.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: OP here.
It somehow worked. We uninstalled WhatsApp from the old tablet, and then tried again to install it (normally, from Play Store) on the new tablet and then it just worked. I have no idea how this was possible though, I can't explain it.
Note: This was done a few days after I posted the question, but I am only adding the answer now because I forgot to do it.
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/12/25 | 778 | 2,829 | <issue_start>username_0: I was looking forward to using per-app languages with Android 13.
However, my OnePlus 8T does not feature the necessary settings item for that on OxygenOS 13.
Is it possible to set a different language with an adb shell command?
`adb shell settings get global settings_app_locale_opt_in_enabled` returns `null`, so I'm not sure if it's even implemented at all.
Smartphone is rooted with Magisk.<issue_comment>username_1: 9R user here. my native lang is ua, but I mainly use en. wanted to set ua for one particular app and also was seeking for this option. it seems that oneplus turned it off
<https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/zfgoy5/just_updated_my_op9_pro_to_oxygenos_13_but_cant/>
```
$ ~/w/own [255]> adb shell settings put global settings_app_locale_opt_in_enabled false
Exception occurred while executing 'put':
java.lang.SecurityException: Permission denial: writing to settings requires:android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
at com.android.providers.settings.SettingsProvider.enforceWritePermission(SettingsProvider.java:2562)
at com.android.providers.settings.SettingsProvider.mutateGlobalSetting(SettingsProvider.java:1562)
at com.android.providers.settings.SettingsProvider.insertGlobalSetting(SettingsProvider.java:1516)
at com.android.providers.settings.SettingsProvider.call(SettingsProvider.java:495)
at android.content.ContentProvider.call(ContentProvider.java:2511)
at android.content.ContentProvider$Transport.call(ContentProvider.java:525)
at com.android.providers.settings.SettingsService$MyShellCommand.putForUser(SettingsService.java:384)
at com.android.providers.settings.SettingsService$MyShellCommand.onCommand(SettingsService.java:280)
at com.android.modules.utils.BasicShellCommandHandler.exec(BasicShellCommandHandler.java:97)
at android.os.ShellCommand.exec(ShellCommand.java:38)
at com.android.providers.settings.SettingsService.onShellCommand(SettingsService.java:51)
at android.os.Binder.shellCommand(Binder.java:1073)
at android.os.Binder.onTransact(Binder.java:901)
at android.os.Binder.execTransactInternal(Binder.java:1331)
at android.os.Binder.execTransact(Binder.java:1268)
$ ~/w/own [255]>
```
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: just attempt to delete the setting and create it afterwards.
delete settings:
```
adb shell settings delete global settings_app_locale_opt_in_enabled
Deleted 0 rows
```
create it and assign the value:
```
adb shell settings put global settings_app_locale_opt_in_enabled false
```
confirm it's in place:
```
adb shell settings get global settings_app_locale_opt_in_enabled
false
```
Upvotes: 0 |
2022/12/28 | 121 | 536 | <issue_start>username_0: Is there any simple way to make extensions work on your Android phone with popular working browsers like Chrome or MS Edge, or do you have to download other browsers for this to work out?
If there is a simple solution, does anyone know how to go forward with it?<issue_comment>username_1: I guess Chrome and Edge for Android don't support extensions.
Firefox is a good choice, in my opinion
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Kiwi Browser, a Chromium fork, supports Chrome extensions on Android.
Upvotes: 1 |
2023/01/05 | 369 | 1,402 | <issue_start>username_0: TL;DR: Switching from A70 to Fairphone 4. What is the best way to transfer data/settings?
More context: I need to transfer data between two phones: An Samsung Galaxy A70 (2019) and a Fairphone 4. Both will be running stock and Android 11.
What is the best way to basically mirror or copy my old A70 to the new Fairphone 4?
I used Smartswitch when previously switching but I don't know if on can switch from a Galaxy phone to a NON-Galaxy phone using Smart switch.
Samsung's Websites more or less aggressively markets Smart Switch to be the way to switch to a Galaxy phone from your old potentially NON-Galaxy phone. Of course there is some marketing talk involved in there trying to promote Galaxy Phones.
In this video (<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3r9O2BACw>) another way is showcased but I didn't see this way when switching to and from an Android phone prior.
I am afraid the A70 is going to die soon and I am unsure if my Smart Switch backup on my PC will be sufficient so I am asking this question before the Fairphone 4 even arrived.
Thank you for your help in advance! (and sorry if my English isn't perfect)<issue_comment>username_1: I guess Chrome and Edge for Android don't support extensions.
Firefox is a good choice, in my opinion
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Kiwi Browser, a Chromium fork, supports Chrome extensions on Android.
Upvotes: 1 |
2023/01/16 | 678 | 2,566 | <issue_start>username_0: I have a router at home where I don't have access to settings as it is managed by the landlord. The router has the same SSID for 2.4Ghz and 5GHz.
I also have a wifi camera that I want to connect to that does not support 5Ghz Wifi. How can I disable 5GHz wifi completely on my phones? I can't seem to find any setting on either of my phones. The devices in question are Sony Xperia 5 II and Samsung S22.
I don't want to throw away a perfectly working camera just because it is not super modern.
Many thanks in advance for your help.
Added:
I need to connect to the camera directly from my phone - when I open the camera app it says "Camera does not support 5Ghz Wifi, please connect your phone to 2.4 GHz Wifi". I believe, it is needed to setup the camera's Wifi connection or something.<issue_comment>username_1: If both 2.4GHz and 5GHz WIFI are available, the camera will automatically connect to 2.4GHz. It will not even attempt to connect to 5GHz as it does not have an antenna for it. That is, it can't even see the signal.
You do not have to disable anything.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Looks like the app is using this "obscure morse system" to transmit initial set-up data to the camera via Wifi even if the camera is not yet connected to the Wifi. Usually the packet length of the encrypted Wifi packets is used to transmit the WPA2 key to the camera so that it can join the Wifi system (Warning: transmitting a secure Wifi key just obfuscated = more or less in clear text over a Wifi network is insecure and may be intercepted by others, revealing your WPA2 key).
To make this work the camera is sniffing for all surrounding (2.4GHz) Wifi networks. Therefore the used smartphone also has to use 2.4Ghz otherwise the camera will not be able to sniff the relevant data.
To solve your problem you would have to temporarily disable the 5GHz Wifi of your router. If that is not possible you can try to force your phone to use 2.4 GHz.
Some Android versions have a `WiFi Frequency Band` setting (see Wifi -> three vertical dots -> advanced). If your version has no such setting you can try to use pure physics:
Tha maximum range of 5GHz networks is, because of the frequency, smaller than those of 2.4Ghz networks. Thus if you increase the distance to your Wifi router or use other ways to decrease the signal strength, the phone should switch to 2.4 GHz. Make sure that the camera is placed half way between you and the router so tat it can sniff the WPA2 key and then connect to the Wifi.
Upvotes: 1 [selected_answer] |
2023/01/16 | 468 | 1,850 | <issue_start>username_0: My environment is:
Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS (xubuntu to be more specific),
NVidia driver 470.103.01,
Android SDK 33
When I start adb server by running some adb commands, the UI, mouse and other things starts to lag and stutter, only terminal keeps responsive. You can see the type of lags I'm talking about on the video. Note that even when the cursor is lagging the terminal still works smoothly. The task manager doesn't seem to register any spikes neither on CPU nor on memory usage. Do you have any idea of how to debug or fix this issue? Probably you faced something similar?
Thanks in advance
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YSdN9WtYQU>
Edit:
If I use MX Master 2S bluetooth mouse which connects directly to the bluetooth integrated into the motherboard, I see the effect described above. But if I connect cheap bluetooth mouse via its' bluetooth dongle, I don't see the stutter effects, everything runs smoothly. Looks like adb somehow interfere with builtin bluetooth device<issue_comment>username_1: Try starting your adb server as root with these commands in the terminal window:
```
adb kill-server # Get rid of any running server
sudo adb start-server # Start a new one running as root
```
If that does not start the stutter, try running your other commands and see if they stutter. In general, ADB works *much* better on Linux if the server is running as root.
OK, that isn't the problem, which seems to be something to do with the motherboard bluetooth controller. Check if there are driver updates for that, and for the USB controller?
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Okay, so I ended up connecting the mouse using a USB dongle instead of built-in Bluetooth. Not a solution to the initial problem, but anyway, this is a note for somebody who faces similar issues.
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer] |
2023/01/26 | 565 | 2,658 | <issue_start>username_0: We downloaded some APK files and attempted to open them only to encounter the "*There was a problem parsing the package*" error. So it didn't even make through to the Install screen. However, as it turned out, the files contained malware with a very high probability (according to VirusTotal).
The question is, could it still cause havoc inside the phone even though it didn't go through a proper installation?<issue_comment>username_1: If the APK file was not installed this reduces the probability a lot.
The only way I see that could harm a device would be if the file itself would contain an exploit against the Android MediaStore Service. This service processes all files on the internal shared storage sections (`/sdcard/` aka `/storage/emulated/0`).
The Android MediaStore Service has several vulnerabilities since Android 5 where it was included the first time. Video files, picture files and other file formats were affected, but I do not remember that the ZIP format could also be used to trigger an exploit.
It also depends on what Android versions your phone is running and of course what security patch level your device has.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Quite often, whenever there are problems during a download cycle -say, your browser developed a conflict during the download of a particular package, and if the error appeared to resolve itself to the browser, no flag (or notification to the user) would be raised. HOWEVER, if the issue ACTUALLY was not fixed completely, and only appeared to be fixed to the browser, then the likelihood of the app installing correctly is remote. The first sign of such a problem would be exactly what you experienced. "Problem parsing..." This message, by itself, will tell you nothing.
But the answer to your question, in THIS case (download issues), would certainly not do your device any harm. Before even posting the question, you should have done SOME secondary tests, to reveal additional information on the situation. The only way that the conditions you described could damage your device, would be if whatever you downloaded was actually OPENED, after download. The first thing I would check, if concerned about possible damage, would be the source of the error. This can be done by examining whatever WAS downloaded. A simple text editor could try and open whatever is there, if it is complete. If it isn't, it SHOULD be deleted right away.
Other items to check are any other things you downloaded from that source. Since it seems you left everything alone, you should be quite fine. Next time run at least 1 test before beginning to panic ;).
Upvotes: 1 |
2023/02/01 | 577 | 2,674 | <issue_start>username_0: I have an email account that I read with Thunderbird via IMAP on my PC, and I have rules to move emails into other folders.
I also have Outlook on my Android phone, and it constantly shows all emails in my Inbox, even ones that have been moved by rule to other folders. It is as if Outlook has cached the email and doesn't check to see if it's actually still there.
How can I force the Outlook app to refresh and detect this?<issue_comment>username_1: If the APK file was not installed this reduces the probability a lot.
The only way I see that could harm a device would be if the file itself would contain an exploit against the Android MediaStore Service. This service processes all files on the internal shared storage sections (`/sdcard/` aka `/storage/emulated/0`).
The Android MediaStore Service has several vulnerabilities since Android 5 where it was included the first time. Video files, picture files and other file formats were affected, but I do not remember that the ZIP format could also be used to trigger an exploit.
It also depends on what Android versions your phone is running and of course what security patch level your device has.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Quite often, whenever there are problems during a download cycle -say, your browser developed a conflict during the download of a particular package, and if the error appeared to resolve itself to the browser, no flag (or notification to the user) would be raised. HOWEVER, if the issue ACTUALLY was not fixed completely, and only appeared to be fixed to the browser, then the likelihood of the app installing correctly is remote. The first sign of such a problem would be exactly what you experienced. "Problem parsing..." This message, by itself, will tell you nothing.
But the answer to your question, in THIS case (download issues), would certainly not do your device any harm. Before even posting the question, you should have done SOME secondary tests, to reveal additional information on the situation. The only way that the conditions you described could damage your device, would be if whatever you downloaded was actually OPENED, after download. The first thing I would check, if concerned about possible damage, would be the source of the error. This can be done by examining whatever WAS downloaded. A simple text editor could try and open whatever is there, if it is complete. If it isn't, it SHOULD be deleted right away.
Other items to check are any other things you downloaded from that source. Since it seems you left everything alone, you should be quite fine. Next time run at least 1 test before beginning to panic ;).
Upvotes: 1 |
2023/02/06 | 620 | 2,798 | <issue_start>username_0: It happens every now and then that an app crashes on my Philips 65PUS9006 Android TV.
The problem is that I haven't found a way to restart the app from the Philips TV Remote.
* Is there a way to restart an app on a Philips Android TV with the help of the TV remote only?
* Alt, is there a way to completely restart Android on a Philips Android TV with the help of the TV remote only?
*I don't want to have to pull the plug out of the power outlet (like I have been doing so far), just to be able to restart an app that is not responding anymore.*<issue_comment>username_1: If the APK file was not installed this reduces the probability a lot.
The only way I see that could harm a device would be if the file itself would contain an exploit against the Android MediaStore Service. This service processes all files on the internal shared storage sections (`/sdcard/` aka `/storage/emulated/0`).
The Android MediaStore Service has several vulnerabilities since Android 5 where it was included the first time. Video files, picture files and other file formats were affected, but I do not remember that the ZIP format could also be used to trigger an exploit.
It also depends on what Android versions your phone is running and of course what security patch level your device has.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Quite often, whenever there are problems during a download cycle -say, your browser developed a conflict during the download of a particular package, and if the error appeared to resolve itself to the browser, no flag (or notification to the user) would be raised. HOWEVER, if the issue ACTUALLY was not fixed completely, and only appeared to be fixed to the browser, then the likelihood of the app installing correctly is remote. The first sign of such a problem would be exactly what you experienced. "Problem parsing..." This message, by itself, will tell you nothing.
But the answer to your question, in THIS case (download issues), would certainly not do your device any harm. Before even posting the question, you should have done SOME secondary tests, to reveal additional information on the situation. The only way that the conditions you described could damage your device, would be if whatever you downloaded was actually OPENED, after download. The first thing I would check, if concerned about possible damage, would be the source of the error. This can be done by examining whatever WAS downloaded. A simple text editor could try and open whatever is there, if it is complete. If it isn't, it SHOULD be deleted right away.
Other items to check are any other things you downloaded from that source. Since it seems you left everything alone, you should be quite fine. Next time run at least 1 test before beginning to panic ;).
Upvotes: 1 |
2023/02/07 | 2,254 | 6,103 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm trying to extract the content of super.img, modify some elements then repack it again. I followed all the steps correctly to extract the contents of `super.img` file.
When running `stat '%n %s *.img` for all images, I get the following sizes:
```
super.img 9663676416
```
For the partitions within `super.img`, I get the following:
```
mi_ext_a.img 4096
mi_ext_b.img 0
odm_a.img 755478528
odm_b.img 0
product_a.img 2827481088
product_b.img 0
system_a.img 644575232
system_b.img 0
system_dlkm_a.img 98304
system_dlkm_b.img 0
system_ext_a.img 503472128
system_ext_b.img 0
vendor_a.img 1484333056
vendor_b.img 0
vendor_dlkm_a.img 37294080
vendor_dlkm_b.img 0
```
I noticed that the sum of the partitions is `6252732416` which is less than the `super.img` size (don't know if this is the problem)
Now, without even modifying any partition content, I wanted to use `lpmake` to re-create the `super.img` again, hence, I created this batch
```
lpmake \
--metadata-size 4096 \
--super-name super \
--metadata-slots 2 \
--device super:9663676416 \
--group main:6252736512 \
--partition system_a:readonly:644575232:main --image system_a=./system_a.img \
--partition system_b:readonly:0:main --image system_b=./system_b.img \
--partition system_ext_a:readonly:503472128:main --image system_ext_a=./system_ext_a.img \
--partition system_ext_b:readonly:0:main --image system_ext_b=./system_ext_b.img \
--partition system_dlkm_a:readonly:98304:main --image system_dlkm_a=./system_dlkm_a.img \
--partition system_dlkm_b:readonly:0:main --image system_dlkm_b=./system_dlkm_b.img \
--partition product_a:readonly:2827481088:main --image product_a=./product_a.img \
--partition product_b:readonly:0:main --image product_b=./product_b.img \
--partition vendor_a:readonly:1484333056:main --image vendor_a=./vendor_a.img \
--partition vendor_b:readonly:0:main --image vendor_b=./vendor_b.img \
--partition vendor_dlkm_a:readonly:37294080:main --image vendor_dlkm_a=./vendor_dlkm_a.img \
--partition vendor_dlkm_b:readonly:0:main --image vendor_dlkm_b=./vendor_dlkm_b.img \
--partition mi_ext_a:readonly:4096:main --image mi_ext_a=./mi_ext_a.img \
--partition mi_ext_b:readonly:0:main --image mi_ext_b=./mi_ext_b.img \
--partition odm_a:readonly:755478528:main --image odm_a=./odm_a.img \
--partition odm_b:readonly:0:main --image odm_b=./odm_b.img \
--sparse \
--output ./super.new.img
```
Yet, I'm getting the below error:
```
lpmake I 02-07 20:36:57 3610213 3610213 builder.cpp:1012] [liblp]Partition system_a will resize from 0 bytes to 644575232 bytes
lpmake I 02-07 20:36:57 3610213 3610213 builder.cpp:1012] [liblp]Partition system_ext_a will resize from 0 bytes to 503472128 bytes
lpmake I 02-07 20:36:57 3610213 3610213 builder.cpp:1012] [liblp]Partition system_dlkm_a will resize from 0 bytes to 98304 bytes
lpmake I 02-07 20:36:57 3610213 3610213 builder.cpp:1012] [liblp]Partition product_a will resize from 0 bytes to 2827481088 bytes
lpmake I 02-07 20:36:57 3610213 3610213 builder.cpp:1012] [liblp]Partition vendor_a will resize from 0 bytes to 1484333056 bytes
lpmake I 02-07 20:36:57 3610213 3610213 builder.cpp:1012] [liblp]Partition vendor_dlkm_a will resize from 0 bytes to 37294080 bytes
lpmake I 02-07 20:36:57 3610213 3610213 builder.cpp:1012] [liblp]Partition mi_ext_a will resize from 0 bytes to 4096 bytes
lpmake I 02-07 20:36:57 3610213 3610213 builder.cpp:1012] [liblp]Partition odm_a will resize from 0 bytes to 755478528 bytes
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
Invalid sparse file format at header
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
Invalid sparse file format at header
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
Invalid sparse file format at header
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
Invalid sparse file format at header
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
Invalid sparse file format at header
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
Invalid sparse file format at header
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
Invalid sparse file format at header
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
lpmake E 02-07 20:36:59 3610213 3610213 images.cpp:320][liblp]Partition should only have linear extents: odm_b
```
Regardless of changing the order above, it keeps giving the same error for the last partition in the script.
Any idea how to get it properly configured?<issue_comment>username_1: It means that odm\_b cannot be at the end of the statement. You need to order your statements according to how the images expect to be treated inside the super.img They are referred to as extents.
imjtool should be able to give you information like this, but i was not able to get it running properly.
Debug through <https://github.com/username_1/lpunpack> somewhere inside at the end of read\_metadata
and find out how it should be ordered according to LpMetadataPartition.num\_extents and order accordingly.
Additionally the super:[SIZE] should always be larger than the total sum of its parts, ideally you would set this as the maximum size of the devices super partition.
I had a problem like this crop up and by moving the issuesome statement to the top of the list (as it had 0 for num\_extents) i was able to create the needed super.img. I don't have the device the super.img belongs to and am relying on external testers to test in the future, but i was able to create the super.img.
This should set you on the right path to getting where you need to be.
EDIT: Your metadata size looks a little low, the device i'm working with has 65536
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: I'm using **lpmake** built from this repo: <https://github.com/LonelyFool/lpunpack_and_lpmake>
Maybe it's a bug of source code. I print some log trace, and there is a vector overflow:
```
AddPartitionImage vendor_b ./vendor_b.img size:7 index:7 type:0
```
You can just comment the check, and lpmake works well.
```
// if (extent.target_type != LP_TARGET_TYPE_LINEAR) {
// LERROR << "Partition should only have linear extents: " << GetPartitionName(partition);
// return false;
// }
```
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/02/15 | 780 | 2,516 | <issue_start>username_0: To clarify, my problem isn't that I can't install an app because I have a similarly-named app; I am trying to update an app I installed via APK with another one of a later version.
I had previously downloaded YouTube Revanced from revanced.io, and a new version has been released, so I want to update it with the latest APK. However, despite acknowledging that I'm trying to update the app instead of installing ("Do you want to update this app?" dialogue), it still gives the "The package conflicts with an existing package" error.
Uninstalling and then reinstalling the app, though an option I have used, is inconvenient as I lose all my settings (there's no way to export them).
Thoughts?<issue_comment>username_1: From [the official ReVanced Discord server](https://discord.gg/revanced), this might mean that there's a signature conflict between the previous APK and the to-be-installed APK, and the only solution is to uninstall the current app first.
From its "help" server, [posted on Jan 21, 2023, by ReVanced (Bot)](https://discord.com/channels/952946952348270622/953993848374325269/1066207575886024745),
>
> **27 Installation is blocked due to conflicting with an existing installation**
>
> This implies that you must remove the previous installation to solve the conflict.
>
>
>
---
In addition, [the developer & maintainer suggested](https://discord.com/channels/952946952348270622/1069708489938710609/1069708489938710609) using ReVanced Manager instead and avoiding `revanced.io`.
>
> **meabeab** So my revanced app started stopping and i tried to reinstall it but it says "app not installed because the package conflicts with existing package" revanced is uninstalled
>
> **CnC\_Robert** use latest patches
>
> **meabeab** Where to download them?
>
> **CnC\_Robert** manager downloads it automatically
>
> **meabeab** But aren't you supposed to download the revanced from the site?
>
> **meabeab** Without the whole manager thing
>
> **CnC\_Robert** don't say revanced.io
>
> **meabeab** It is revanced.io
>
> **CnC\_Robert** fake
>
> **CnC\_Robert** revanced.app is the only official
>
> **CnC\_Robert** its not from us
>
>
>
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Edit: ReVanced Extended has added an option to export and import settings to/from a JSON file. I don't think this is in the official ReVanced app, though (probably forgot to mention that revanced.io is separate from the official one).
Upvotes: 1 [selected_answer] |
2023/02/16 | 609 | 2,368 | <issue_start>username_0: The screen rotation of my phone works fine. When I rotate the phone from portrait to landscape, then a small icon appears in the lower right corner. I have to click it, then the screen rotates. Going back from landscape to portrait works similarly.
Is it possible to have this icon in the lower right corner at all times? I.e., allowing me to rotate the screen at any time (by tapping the icon), but suppressing auto-rotation after I physically rotate the device?
In the options of my phone, I do not find that possibility. (See screenshot.) I also searched the internet, but what I could find was more concerned with bugs of the screen rotation (which I do not experience).
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/LSaff.jpg)<issue_comment>username_1: It doesn't appear there's a way to do this directly in the Android system. For most phones the standard options are:
1. Auto-Rotate ON: Your phone rotates automatically when you adjust its rotation
2. Auto-Rotate OFF Your phone doesn't rotate automatically but gives a small button to allow for rotation (Android 12 and up)
Although there is no way to do it within the Android system settings, there is an app called [Always Visible Screen Rotation](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alwaysrotate&hl=en_US&gl=US) that looks like it does exactly the thing you're looking for. It places a small icon on the screen that can be activated whether your device is physically rotated or not.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/yTHL9.png)
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: *This answer assumed the device in question is Samsung based on its screenshot.*
---
On Samsung devices, it is possible to show an always-on screen rotation button with the help of **the Assistant menu**.
1. Open Settings - Accessibility - Interaction and dexterity
2. Tap "Assistant menu"
3. Tap "Select Assistant menu items"
4. Add "Screen rotation" (and optionally remove the rest)
5. Switch "On" the feature
6. (Optionally, configure the size and its transparency)
The Assistant menu can also be moved around by holding and dragging the button.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/LGljY.png)
Upvotes: 3 |
2023/02/20 | 636 | 2,553 | <issue_start>username_0: Phone: Cubot KingKong 5 Pro
Android 11, Security Update July 5.
A couple of days ago the phone "crashed" and restarted itself. It does that from time to time, at worst it did it once per week or so, now less, like once in one or two months.
After it was back up, I've been getting a "Nfc Service has stopped" dialog, like every 30-60 seconds. If I close the dialog, a new one appears soon. It makes using the phone quite hard as there is constantly that dialog blocking the screen.
App Info says the culprit is "Nfc Service", go figure. I have already disabled it, but that dialog seems to come anyway. I don't use nor need NFC (as far as I know).
If I go to Android Settings -> Connected devices -> Connection preferences -> NFC, I see only "Advanced settings", and clicking on it does nothing. Does this mean NFC is already disabled?
As said, I am fine if NFC is completely disabled, as long as those irritating notes go away. Is there anything I can do, besides resetting the whole phone? I'd rather try to avoid it because I have some apps I have to backup & restore manually, like a VPN token software (it has to be set up again whenever I either change phone or reset the phone), Whatsapp and MapFactor navigator POIs.<issue_comment>username_1: I had the same problem on my Unihertz Jelly 2, also with Android 11. I contacted the manufacturer, and they instructed me to install an OTA update available from their website (the System Update under Settings said that no update is available). After installing the update, the problem went away. I'm not entirely sure if it was a new version or just reinstalling the latest update. In any case, I was able to do it without having to reset my phone to factory settings, although I did do a backup beforehand just to be sure.
Some additional details: In my case, the NFC stopped working after the phone ran out of battery during normal usage. I similarly had popups every minute or so, and also the battery was draining extremely quickly (100% to 0% in around 5-6h even if I did nothing with the phone). After the update, both issues were fixed.
(Sorry if this is not helpful for your case, but hopefully someone else benefits from this.)
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: I had the exact same problem with my Armor phone. I contacted the importer, and they replied that a bug in an online banking app (S-mobiili) was the culprit and that deleting it until they got it fixed would do the trick. And it did! Hope it fixes your problem too.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer] |
2023/02/26 | 1,110 | 4,378 | <issue_start>username_0: Since starting to use USB-C headphones (my new phone has no audio jack), I notice this (to my ears) very annoying issue: during playback of any audio, the sound output will be cut during moments of (very) low volume in the audio stream. For example: listening to an audio book, after every sentence, when the narrator pauses, you will hear a noticeable cut of all sound output, where normally there's always a little white noise in the background. I guess it's an optimization of not sending any audio signal when there is nothing to be heard, but to me these constant breaks in the background white noise are very annoying. As reference: this did not happen when using the audio jack on my old phone. The background white noise was just always present during playback.
I tried to research this issue, but it seems to be either almost impossible to set the right search terms or no one else is complaining about this. Although I find the latter hard to believe, since my partner experiences the same. Also in the Android settings I cannot find anything related to this.
Still I hope there is a way to resolve this. Either by applying a certain (advanced) setting or maybe by using some other workaround trick. Any insight and/or help in this matter is much appreciated, thanks!
PS: I assume this is standard Android behavior for USB-C headphones and not headphone specific. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong.<issue_comment>username_1: From what I know this is not easily achievable. There is no built-in setting for this, although you may get around the issue using (1) a ROM with a patched kernel (2) a third-party app.
This has been reported since early days of Android [1](https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/q-sound-cut-out-bug-on-low-volumes.2231796/) [2](https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/sound-cuts-off-at-low-volume.2340178/), and there is an [issue](https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/36952441) on AOSP that is marked as "won't fix", although I don't agree with that assessment. This might get more traction and get addressed if someone can confirm that (1) This is indeed a problem in AOSP (2) creates an issue that clearly states that this is not a problem in custom ROMs.
This may also be related to the fact that the output volume for USB-C headphone/headphone using USB-C adapters is applied by software rather than using DAC hardware volume. In other words, Android applies the system media volume to the sound signal and then sends it to USB-C, during which the sound may be distorted/filtered. [1](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/jaa9xj/apple_usbc_isnt_that_great_on_android_if_you_are/) [2](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/cpm4b3/apple_usbc_on_android_output_too_low/). There are reports that you can use the [Hiby app](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hiby.music) or [USB Audio Player PRO app](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en_US&gl=US) to control the volume of the DAC, which may help fix this issue. (I did not have luck there.)
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I was happy to come across your post as I have had the same issue on multiple android devices. Initially I thought it was the specific device, but after having the issue reproduce itsself on a new device later on, I re-initiated a search on this. Unfortunately I agree towards the same conclusion in that either no one experiences the issue or simoly finds another alternative (non USB-C headphones if possible etc) or simply loves with is (as I have had to do on occasion). It is annoying though as I either have to bump the volume so that even the quiet parts have the background noise fuzz loud enough for the audio to not cut out or simply deal with the cut-outs.
The issue is not related to the headphones as the issue does not exist when used on windows devices for example.
The only solution I have found is to use a frequency generator, put it on a low Hz so that you only have the white noise remain and then play whatever audio you wish to play on a low volume (I too fall asleep with audio books etc and the cutting out is annoying).
Yet to look into whether specific frequencies are a bad idea in terms of sleep etc, but thought I'd give you a potential work around if you have not yet found one or wish to consider it.
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/03/01 | 1,226 | 4,529 | <issue_start>username_0: On my Asus Zenfone 8 running Android 13, there is an option to set my home screen layout to two-layer mode or one-layer mode. (Accessed by long pressing empty space on home screen, then selecting Preferences > Home screen > Layout).
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/EJZVM.jpg)
The description says the two-layer mode has an "All Apps button", but I don't have one in either mode. The only difference I could see when switching to one-layer mode was that my icon locations were reset. (The icon locations were restored when switching back)
What is the difference between the two-layer and one-layer modes for the home screen?<issue_comment>username_1: The Asus' FAQ [[ZenFone] Change Home screen layout](https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1042369/) explains the difference.
In two-layer mode all apps screen aka app drawer screen is accessed by performing swipe up gesture on the home screen. There might be a little upward pointing arrow on your home screen as well.
In one-layer mode "all apps" screen is accessed by swiping leftward on the home screen. In other words "all apps" are shown on one of your home screens.
The source of confusion for you is that term "All apps button". All apps button aka app launcher button is a legacy, a thing of the past. It was replaced by swipe up gesture a couple versions ago in some vanilla release of Android. Asus ought to fix this annoying but harmless bug.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: To amplify a bit on previous answer:
(My previous Android experience was YEARS ago, back on Android 7.x, and now I've been transported from Android 7.x to Android-13: Wow...my world has REALLY CHANGED!)
Two weeks ago, I bought a new Android-13 based phone (Samsung Galaxy-family). To summarize, I've struggled
getting home-screen(s)? and app-screen(s)? arranged
to my satisfaction, and have had to do 'factory-resets'
a couple of times in the interim, due to what I'm calling 'bugs' (to be honest) and calling 'anomolies' (to be kind). Today, I learned some history: that my new Android-13 phone comes with a built-in 'skin' known as "One UI" (version 5.1, to be exact).
Let's talk about this (new?) 'two-layered' arrangement of 'icons'. In two-layered mode, it seems that all pre-installed icons are in alphabetical order. (Notice however that when you install more apps, they just get inserted into the next empty slot at the end, thus breaking any initially alphabetized ordering.)
At any rate, I think that these DRAWERS refer to levels. So, left-right swiping is staying within either the HOME-DRAWER (level) or the APP-DRAWER (level), and each drawer has its own separate series of 'dot-counts' (near bottom of the page) that indicate how many screenfuls of icons there are, and which position-relative horizontal screenful of icons that you're currently looking at.
So 'app-drawer' screens can be identified by fact there is only a 'search' field at the very top, and the
'dot-counts' at the very bottom...remainder of page is a full matrix of icons.
Whereas, 'home-drawer' screens can be identified by
the fact that, at top of the page appears the "time/temperate/city-name" line of info, and near bottom are the 'dot-counts' and at very bottom are a single row of your favorite/most-frequently-used icons.
But now I've got to add what I REALLY think: This is a PISS-POOR initial design/layout they begin with!!! What they SHOULD HAVE DONE is to have the built-in wallpaper
for the HOME-DRAWER (aka the 1st-floor) be 'light-yellow' [day-light metaphor] and DIFFERENT colored-wallpaper for the APP-DRAWER (aka the basement) be a'dark-ish' gray [night-light metaphor].
(Damn...wish I could figure out some way to ACHIEVE that background coloring, but so far, that doesn't seem possible !!!)
The 'show-stopper' in this whole mess is that their decision to even allow a SINGLE-LEVEL layout concept
is a FLAWED idea!
Because, notice that there's even an additional setting to have 'hidden' sub-group of app-level icons. As it
turns out, even if you knowingly never explicitly turn on 'hiding', their algorithm being used when you choose to switch from two-level mode to one-level mode, they
will just DISAPPEAR some icons on you, leaving you totally in 'MUMBLE-MODE', and deciding to return your
'broken' phone rather than resorting to 'factory-reset'!
Don't fall for it...STAY in two-level mode, as though
your life depended on it!!!
My 2-cents worth. Hope this helps.
Upvotes: -1 |
2023/03/20 | 1,120 | 4,118 | <issue_start>username_0: I want my phone to power off after being idle for some time (say, 15 minutes). This is a common feature in computers, but I couldn't find it on my Android settings, nor an app to help me out.
I don't want a scheduled shutdown, but a shutdown after inactivity.
Is that possible?<issue_comment>username_1: The Asus' FAQ [[ZenFone] Change Home screen layout](https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1042369/) explains the difference.
In two-layer mode all apps screen aka app drawer screen is accessed by performing swipe up gesture on the home screen. There might be a little upward pointing arrow on your home screen as well.
In one-layer mode "all apps" screen is accessed by swiping leftward on the home screen. In other words "all apps" are shown on one of your home screens.
The source of confusion for you is that term "All apps button". All apps button aka app launcher button is a legacy, a thing of the past. It was replaced by swipe up gesture a couple versions ago in some vanilla release of Android. Asus ought to fix this annoying but harmless bug.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: To amplify a bit on previous answer:
(My previous Android experience was YEARS ago, back on Android 7.x, and now I've been transported from Android 7.x to Android-13: Wow...my world has REALLY CHANGED!)
Two weeks ago, I bought a new Android-13 based phone (Samsung Galaxy-family). To summarize, I've struggled
getting home-screen(s)? and app-screen(s)? arranged
to my satisfaction, and have had to do 'factory-resets'
a couple of times in the interim, due to what I'm calling 'bugs' (to be honest) and calling 'anomolies' (to be kind). Today, I learned some history: that my new Android-13 phone comes with a built-in 'skin' known as "One UI" (version 5.1, to be exact).
Let's talk about this (new?) 'two-layered' arrangement of 'icons'. In two-layered mode, it seems that all pre-installed icons are in alphabetical order. (Notice however that when you install more apps, they just get inserted into the next empty slot at the end, thus breaking any initially alphabetized ordering.)
At any rate, I think that these DRAWERS refer to levels. So, left-right swiping is staying within either the HOME-DRAWER (level) or the APP-DRAWER (level), and each drawer has its own separate series of 'dot-counts' (near bottom of the page) that indicate how many screenfuls of icons there are, and which position-relative horizontal screenful of icons that you're currently looking at.
So 'app-drawer' screens can be identified by fact there is only a 'search' field at the very top, and the
'dot-counts' at the very bottom...remainder of page is a full matrix of icons.
Whereas, 'home-drawer' screens can be identified by
the fact that, at top of the page appears the "time/temperate/city-name" line of info, and near bottom are the 'dot-counts' and at very bottom are a single row of your favorite/most-frequently-used icons.
But now I've got to add what I REALLY think: This is a PISS-POOR initial design/layout they begin with!!! What they SHOULD HAVE DONE is to have the built-in wallpaper
for the HOME-DRAWER (aka the 1st-floor) be 'light-yellow' [day-light metaphor] and DIFFERENT colored-wallpaper for the APP-DRAWER (aka the basement) be a'dark-ish' gray [night-light metaphor].
(Damn...wish I could figure out some way to ACHIEVE that background coloring, but so far, that doesn't seem possible !!!)
The 'show-stopper' in this whole mess is that their decision to even allow a SINGLE-LEVEL layout concept
is a FLAWED idea!
Because, notice that there's even an additional setting to have 'hidden' sub-group of app-level icons. As it
turns out, even if you knowingly never explicitly turn on 'hiding', their algorithm being used when you choose to switch from two-level mode to one-level mode, they
will just DISAPPEAR some icons on you, leaving you totally in 'MUMBLE-MODE', and deciding to return your
'broken' phone rather than resorting to 'factory-reset'!
Don't fall for it...STAY in two-level mode, as though
your life depended on it!!!
My 2-cents worth. Hope this helps.
Upvotes: -1 |
2023/04/05 | 335 | 1,303 | <issue_start>username_0: WhatsApp has this feature of sending videos in messages which can only be viewed once by the recipient. It auto destructs after its viewed.
**Where does WhatsApp store this video file temporarily?** Is it possible to copy this file from this location while the video is playing? Need to know the location both in case of rooted and non-rooted phones.
PS: The other question [Where do Android apps store data?](https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/47924/where-do-android-apps-store-data) mentions general paths used by android specific apps. However, whatsapp storage location on android for some of their features are more obscure (Like - one time viewable videos). The locations mentioned in the previous answer do not contain the data for this use case.<issue_comment>username_1: Whatsapp stores its normal videos in
`\Internal storage\Android\media\com.whatsapp\WhatsApp\Media\WhatsApp Video`
It has two subfolders `Private` and `Sent`. If Whatsapp is storing these videos while playing, I would expect them here.
However, if they are storing it, I would expect it to be encrypted. Otherwise, the feature would be useless.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: I found it, it is supposed to be at
>
> `data/data/com.whatsapp/files/ViewOnce`
>
>
>
Upvotes: 2 |
2023/04/23 | 464 | 1,444 | <issue_start>username_0: [](https://i.stack.imgur.com/yJmbvl.png)
My phone restarted extra long for no reason and now the firmware is different. It shows up as generic android device not moto g pure. Can I encrypt the hardware to prevent this in the future?<issue_comment>username_1: We can't tell without knowing how this happened, so if you had for example some kind of virus, removing that would solve this.
If you haven't rooted your phone, secure boot should prevent anything like this though, have you rooted yours?
Unless this is an actual update from Motorola that auto installed.
TLDR you need to work out what caused it before you can start to find a solution.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: I don't know if this was a deliberate question or you are just confused on what you did.
Entering `*#*#4636#*#*` in the Phone app brings you to this Testing page where you can check all sorts of info regarding your phone like Wifi, NFC, Usage, Phone info, etc.
>
> Here are some other codes you can try
>
>
> 1. Phone information
> *#*#4636#*#*
> 2. IMEI Info
> \*#06#
> 3. Calendar
> *#*#225#*#*
> 4. FCM Diagnostics
> *#*#426#*#*
> 5. Engineering Mode
> *#*#2486#*#*
> 6. Regulatory information
> \*#07#
>
>
>
[Source](https://www.hardreset.info/devices/motorola/motorola-moto-g8-plus/codes/)
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/04/29 | 546 | 1,991 | <issue_start>username_0: I have an Android 5-based smartphone that I like a lot but it's an old phone and the touchscreen is damaged. The screen works perfectly but there's no user input available. The battery was changed recently and I suppose the technician did a good job fixing the backing side but broke the front part containing the touchscreen.
**Is there an option to access it somehow and make it controllable remotely?** If I use a USB cable, is possible to install TeamViewer or some other remote control software to still use it?
The phone has no other remote control software preinstalled. Its touchscreen broke before I was able to install anything for remote control.
The point is to use its camera and mic functionality, and still use its sensors to do something useful like a remote camera or something similar.<issue_comment>username_1: Use an OTG mouse and keyboard.
[From a thread](https://forum.fairphone.com/t/mouse-functionality-in-android-6-or-android-5/27826/2):
>
> I can confirm that using an USB OTG adapter a wireless Logitech mouse
> and keyboard combo works for me without problem using Fairphone Open
> OS 17.03 (Android 5.1).
>
>
>
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: If you can manage to get usb debugging working, try [scrcpy](https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy).
>
> Its features include:
>
>
> * audio forwarding (Android >= 11)
> * recording
> * mirroring with Android device screen off
> * copy-paste in both directions
> * configurable quality
> * Android device screen as a webcam (V4L2) (Linux-only)
> * physical keyboard/mouse simulation (HID)
> * OTG mode
> * and more…
>
>
>
(from its README)
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: If you want to use it connected to a computer, you can use [Vysor](https://www.vysor.io/). It's a program that lets you view and interact with your device from your desktop. It looks like the minimum Android version required for it is 4.4, so you should be good to go with Android 5.
Upvotes: 2 |
2023/04/30 | 640 | 2,286 | <issue_start>username_0: I find using `Power` + `Vol -` extremely cumbersome.
Is it possible to change this to holding `Power` Button? I'm on Android 10.<issue_comment>username_1: You cannot remap power button without root however, remapping any hardware button is possible without root.
There are many options available like [Button remapped](https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-buttonremapper-beta-v0-2-4-new-galaxy-s-version-added.850464/) from XDA or Magisk Module or Xposed Module (named Physical Button Master Control)
For remapping any other hardware button, I will suggest you to use [Button Mapper](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.homebutton&hl=en_US)
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: As you are looking for a solution to take screenshots without pressing `Power`+`Volume Down`, then you can [Edge Gestures](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ss.edgegestures), to setup a gesture that will take the screenshot.
If your phone shows a menu when pressing the power button and the menu include taking a screenshot, you can set [Edge Gestures](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ss.edgegestures) to display the menu, then you click press on `Screenshot`.
If your phone doesn't show a menu when pressing the power button, you can, as an example, set its `Swipe left and hold` from the right edge of the screen to take a screenshot as shown on the image below.
[](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ss.edgegestures)
Another solution is to use [Macrodroid](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.arlosoft.macrodroid&hl=en&gl=US) (or any other automation app such as Automate, Tasker, etc). Create a macro and set it up as shown on the image below. If you press the power button four times, it will trigger the action to take a screenshot. You have the choice to configure when pressing the power button either three, four or five times.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/Gcclj.png)
**Disclaimer:** I am just a user of the aforementioned apps.
Upvotes: 1 |
2023/05/01 | 348 | 1,203 | <issue_start>username_0: My Realme X2 (Android 11) phone, being a little old, when I press the power button, it gets pressed multiple times. I know this is a hardware issue, but I'd still like to get rid of emergency calls.
The disable app option is disabled and removing permissions does nothing.
| | [2](https://i.stack.imgur.com/vCVUD.jpg) |
| --- | --- |
Is there any way I can do it with ADB? I'm not planning on rooting this one yet.<issue_comment>username_1: I'm looking for a better solution for this myself, for now, the best I could do (on Android 13) was change the number it calls. For me, emergency # is 911, so I changed this to just "0". So even if it triggers accidentally, at least it doesn't call an actual "911" number.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: For Realme devices, according to multiple Reddit users on [r/Realme - Emergency SOS](https://www.reddit.com/r/Realme/comments/okshpx/emergency_sos/), the Emergency SOS app can be disabled by using ADB without the need for rooting:
```
adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.oppo.sos
adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.oplus.sos
```
(the package name should be either one of them depending on the device model)
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/05/11 | 1,114 | 4,357 | <issue_start>username_0: Say I want to add extra memory to my Android. Well, it turns out the only way to move apps to that extra space is to root first.
So if not for apps or anything, what should we use the extra space for?
Many Android phones have the ability to add extra space using a Micro SD card.
How to actually use that space?
Is there natural use of that extra space?
To be more frank.
What do people that buy those extra spaces usually use them for? I and my wife just let it empty most of the time because we don't know what to use it for.<issue_comment>username_1: Imagine storage space as an empty cardboard box.
You can if you want to:
* Store things that you don't have space to put elsewhere.
* Or you can have the box half-filled and keep some things somewhere out of the box.
* Or you can throw (delete) some of the things that you don't need anymore and have an empty box.
Apart from that there is no meaning of "how can we actually use" an empty storage space.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Google's documentation defines using a SD card on a Android device in two separate ways **portable storage** and **internal storage** (which is also known as [adoptable storage](https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/adoptable-storage)):
From: <https://support.google.com/android/answer/12153449?hl=en>
>
> When you set up an SD card on your Android device, you can choose between portable storage or internal storage.
>
>
> When you format an SD card for **portable storage**:
>
>
> * You can save files, like photos and videos, on the SD card.
> * You **can’t install apps** on the SD card.
> * You can transfer the SD card between devices.
>
>
> When you format an SD card for **internal storage**:
>
>
> * You can load files, like photos and videos, on the SD card.
> * You **can install apps** on the SD card.
> * You **can’t transfer the SD card** between devices.
> * The SD card can be used in addition to your device's storage.
>
>
>
In regions where data plans are expensive or mobile data is inconsistent, putting personal media (videos, music, photos) locally allows for device owners to use their content in an acceptable manner.
Certain apps like games may exceed the pre-built storage of a device so if the device supports adding a SD card, using a SD card to increase app storage may be desirable. This does come at the cost that the SD card is now [bound to that device by a cryptographic key](https://source.android.com/docs/core/storage/adoptable#security).
**Switching a SD card between different storage types requires reformatting of the SD card**
**But wait why can't some apps be moved to adoptable storage?**
From: <https://source.android.com/docs/core/storage/adoptable>
>
> Apps can be placed on adopted storage media only when the developer has indicated support through the `android:installLocation` attribute. New installs of supported apps are automatically placed on the storage device with the most free space, and users can move supported apps between storage devices in the Settings app. Apps moved to adopted media are remembered while the media is ejected, and return when the media is reinserted.
>
>
>
So for standard Android, developers need to enable the setting assuming the app is appropriate and [not using certain features in the app](https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/install-location#ShouldNot). Social media apps generally use services to get/send content and so would not have the setting for installing on SD card. It can also be due to oversight by the app developer as the default is `android:installLocation="internalOnly"`.
<https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/manifest-element#install>
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: You can use the space for. These gives you more space in internal storage.
* Storing files such as pictures or videos. I keep all my music and videos on it. Then I can just remove it when I change phones.
* Storing some data from some apps. *Note, this is not available for all apps*. You can do this
+ in Settings
+ Apps
+ Select an App
+ Press Change and you can shift to SD Card.
* You can store your photos to the SD card, from the camera automatically.
+ Open Camera App
+ Click on the Settings icon
+ Click on Storage Location / Settings
+ Select SD Card
Upvotes: 1 |
2023/05/14 | 1,102 | 4,314 | <issue_start>username_0: I have three phones where the upload speed is terribly slow (below 0.1MBit/s) over WiFi. Download speed is normal. Upload over mobile data is fast. Only when using WiFi, upload is slow. Tried in different WiFi networks. When trying other devices (phones and laptops), upload is fast using the same WiFi network.
Only thing in common for the affected phones: Used them in Egypt on vacation. But did not install anything, so don't know what could be the cause.
Using Android 13.
Any advice?<issue_comment>username_1: Imagine storage space as an empty cardboard box.
You can if you want to:
* Store things that you don't have space to put elsewhere.
* Or you can have the box half-filled and keep some things somewhere out of the box.
* Or you can throw (delete) some of the things that you don't need anymore and have an empty box.
Apart from that there is no meaning of "how can we actually use" an empty storage space.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Google's documentation defines using a SD card on a Android device in two separate ways **portable storage** and **internal storage** (which is also known as [adoptable storage](https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/adoptable-storage)):
From: <https://support.google.com/android/answer/12153449?hl=en>
>
> When you set up an SD card on your Android device, you can choose between portable storage or internal storage.
>
>
> When you format an SD card for **portable storage**:
>
>
> * You can save files, like photos and videos, on the SD card.
> * You **can’t install apps** on the SD card.
> * You can transfer the SD card between devices.
>
>
> When you format an SD card for **internal storage**:
>
>
> * You can load files, like photos and videos, on the SD card.
> * You **can install apps** on the SD card.
> * You **can’t transfer the SD card** between devices.
> * The SD card can be used in addition to your device's storage.
>
>
>
In regions where data plans are expensive or mobile data is inconsistent, putting personal media (videos, music, photos) locally allows for device owners to use their content in an acceptable manner.
Certain apps like games may exceed the pre-built storage of a device so if the device supports adding a SD card, using a SD card to increase app storage may be desirable. This does come at the cost that the SD card is now [bound to that device by a cryptographic key](https://source.android.com/docs/core/storage/adoptable#security).
**Switching a SD card between different storage types requires reformatting of the SD card**
**But wait why can't some apps be moved to adoptable storage?**
From: <https://source.android.com/docs/core/storage/adoptable>
>
> Apps can be placed on adopted storage media only when the developer has indicated support through the `android:installLocation` attribute. New installs of supported apps are automatically placed on the storage device with the most free space, and users can move supported apps between storage devices in the Settings app. Apps moved to adopted media are remembered while the media is ejected, and return when the media is reinserted.
>
>
>
So for standard Android, developers need to enable the setting assuming the app is appropriate and [not using certain features in the app](https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/install-location#ShouldNot). Social media apps generally use services to get/send content and so would not have the setting for installing on SD card. It can also be due to oversight by the app developer as the default is `android:installLocation="internalOnly"`.
<https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/manifest/manifest-element#install>
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: You can use the space for. These gives you more space in internal storage.
* Storing files such as pictures or videos. I keep all my music and videos on it. Then I can just remove it when I change phones.
* Storing some data from some apps. *Note, this is not available for all apps*. You can do this
+ in Settings
+ Apps
+ Select an App
+ Press Change and you can shift to SD Card.
* You can store your photos to the SD card, from the camera automatically.
+ Open Camera App
+ Click on the Settings icon
+ Click on Storage Location / Settings
+ Select SD Card
Upvotes: 1 |
2023/06/25 | 410 | 1,400 | <issue_start>username_0: I have a Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE and I would like to know
1. Whether it can support the LHDC function provided by Xiaomi Buds 3T Pro.
2. If the above is a yes, how do I know I am using that codec? [Will the word "LHDC" be displayed alongside with the Bluetooth device?]
I have searched many websites but cannot get a definite answer.
In my phone, I discovered the following: Settings > ... > Developer ... > Bluetooth ... and besides "SBC", "AptX" and ...., "LHDC" is an allowable choice.<issue_comment>username_1: >
> In my phone, I discovered the following:- setting > ... > developer ... > Bluetooth ... and besides "SBC" , AptX" and ...., "LHDC" is an allowable choice.
>
>
>
**If "LHDC" is mentioned in the settings then your phone supports LHDC.** So...
1. Yes, it supports LHDC (most Xiaomi and others support it since at least 2021).
2. Yes, the acronym "LHDC" will appear at the right of the Bluetooth audio device's name. That said it may not be selected by default. If that's the case then you need to tap the arrow (>), scroll down and enable the codec.
Upvotes: 1 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Unfortunately, after pairing Xiaomi Buds 3T Pro with Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE, the codec can only go up to AAC but not LHDC. Sad. This is because the HD audio has been factory pre-set as deactivated. Methods of re-activating it are welcome.
Upvotes: 1 |
2023/07/04 | 503 | 2,069 | <issue_start>username_0: I have a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3, updated to the latest possible Android 13, OneUI 5.1. Usually, whenever I'm inside a building, my phone (Google Maps) shows me a blue icon instead of a gray one at a completely different location.
I tried restarting the phone. I checked, and there is no mock location app.
What shall I do? It bothers me a lot.<issue_comment>username_1: GPS signals don't penetrate solid objects well. So other methods can be employed to add to it, such as Wifi and Mobile tower. Even if the GPS could be accurate, it does not support height. So different elevations are just going to produce an incorrect result.
Apps for malls and airports tend to use more precise wifi based locations and methods such as beacons. Many of the advertising boards have cameras (you can see them, if you look closely). These follow you around.
>
> GPS signals are carried through waves at a frequency that does not move easily through solid objects. A GPS device relies on a series of satellites in order to determine where it is physically located. The signals sent from these satellites do not penetrate all kinds of barriers with ease. When you use a GPS inside a building, a wide variety of physical barriers and potential interference sources make it difficult for the device to pinpoint your location accurately.
>
>
>
From [Why Doesn't GPS Work Inside a Building?](https://itstillworks.com/doesnt-gps-work-inside-building-18659.html)
I am not associated with this site, it was the first one in my search, to corroborate my statement.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Unfortunately there's not that much you can do - since you don't have GPS signal, your phone falls back to locating via WiFi. The WiFi equipment in the problematic building(s) was probably moved lately and has wrong location recorded in Google databases.
You can try reporting an issue in Google Maps - tap on blue dot and report a problem. But that also won't work immediately, you'll need to wait for the Google database to update over time.
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/07/11 | 1,275 | 5,021 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm using Pixel 7a and Google Messages. I wonder if there is a setting or an app to stop notifications on texts message coming from people I cannot block during off-hours in a systematic way: e.g. Every Monday morning.
---
Playing with [MacroDroid](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacroDroid) as suggested, I wouldn't mind getting feedback on the multiple options to set this up. For instance, an initial walk-through of the app has led me to place the phone on "Do Not Disturb" for any incoming messages, which is not what I was after.
Here is a macro trying to approximate the intended outcome, i.e. any text (SMS) from Jack received on Tuesday morning will stop the notification sound that I have as a default.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/wYdMMl.png)
Is this correct? After it triggers, will the notification sound be disabled for all incoming messages regardless of the sender's name (or number) until I reset it in my phone settings?<issue_comment>username_1: Depending on the Android version, users have more control in 13 & up over Notification Permissions. Can be controlled per App or Notifications for all apps link below M. Android device Settings will give an option of which all apps to allow Notifications at all, popup, or silent, etc.
Google Help topic: [Change app permissions on your Android phone](https://support.google.com/android/answer/9431959).
You can also use the "Manage notifications" screen to block notifications from specific apps or to change the priority of notifications.
Maybe will help.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Depending on your phone model, you may be able to accomplish this via Do Not Disturb. Here's how I did it on my Pixel 6 Pro running Android 13:
* Open Settings > Search 'Do Not Disturb'
* Click "Schedules"
* Click "Add more" and choose "Time"
* Customize the Days, Start and End times
* Click "Do Not Disturb behavior" > "Create custom settings for this schedule" (see screengrab below)
* Use the "Calls" and "Messages" settings to determine who is allowed through the Do Not Disturb settings
There are a lot of ways to accomplish what you want from here. The easiest way for messages (if you're using Google Messages) is to choose "Priority conversations" in Messages, then pick which texts threads are allowed through. Another way for calls and texts is to add people to your "Starred contacts" and only allow those during your chosen time.
Note, instead of "Schedules" in the second step, you can also choose "Event" to use your Google Calendar to decide when to apply these settings, which may be better depending on your use case.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/Dhqh9.gif)
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_1: I believe there might be another option and it was partially answered above.
As a user, I believe your best bet is to first organize your Contacts into Groups and add Labels for ex; "Trainees" or "Company partner" etc. Then you can easily scroll through and tag each quickly as a FAVORITE (star it).
When you're off yet can't block 1 contact or several, you can still set DND yet make the allowance of Allow Notifications and/or calls from certain people or your FAVORITES. This might take about 30 to organize contacts but I believe it will work. I hope so. Although I am still researching a bit. it should not change or mute alarms.
Google Help topic: [View, group & share contacts](https://support.google.com/contacts/answer/30970?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid).
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_1: To mute notifications from an individual contact in the Messages app:
1. Open Google Messages with said contact in mind.
* You can either open a temp new chat message to the contact without adding input, or
* Open an already existing (\*ongoing or archived doesn't matter) as long as desired contact name is showing.
2. In either scenario, go to the upper right-hand corner (on Android) or DETAILS on a different device:
3. Tap DETAILS
4. Tap NOTIFICATIONS
5. Select: SILENT
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/Pebeq.jpg)
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/hFhyL.jpg)
This will mute all notifications from this contact while using Google Messages app. Temporarily at least until you mark at the bottom of the same screen where it says "Set this as not a conversation." That will move it back from Conversation to Chat; normal chat contact status. That Conversation might be found in the All or possibly even Archived category, but it hasn't been deleted unless you did.
I don't use the individual notifications conversation windows, but you can also set a ***NOTIFICATION SOUND*** per Contact if you wanted. The Settings is in that same Detail screen and Menu.
Hope this does it.
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/07/16 | 2,141 | 7,866 | <issue_start>username_0: Since all smart phones have antennas, and these antennas are capable of detecting and receiving many types of signals including wifi, 2g, 3g, 4g, and 5g, then "we" should be able to make apps that help us observe the strength and presense of all these signals independent of the SIM card we happen to have and whether or not our phone is in airplane mode, correct? However, the signal-detector type Android apps I see out there only work when the radio transmitter is powered on, and even then it's limited to the particular service addressed to our SiM. Am I missing some vital factoid? I feel I must be. Something is not adding up for me.
I do have a dedicated EMF detector "Electro-smog Meter". It doesn't have transmitters yet it's antennae seem to work just fine.<issue_comment>username_1: Smartphones do have the hardware capability to detect various `signals`, the ability to access and observe this information is controlled by the phone’s `operating system` and hardware. This is [deliberate design](https://www.ijert.org/research/design-and-development-of-a-mobile-phone-signal-detector-IJERTV3IS070292.pdf) for security reasons.
Most [`signal detector apps`](https://www.signalboosters.com/blog/best-smartphone-apps-to-find-your-cell-signal-strength/) available on the `Google Play Store` work by accessing the phone’s built-in signal strength measurement tools. These tools are typically only active when the phone’s `radio transmitter` is powered on, which is why these apps may not work when the phone is in `airplane` mode or when the `SIM` card is removed.
I included some helpful links above as well as [here](https://www.electronicshub.org/cell-phone-detector-circuit/) and [here](https://circuitdigest.com/electronic-circuits/cell-phone-detector-circuit)
May you can try to tweak a custom recovery like `TWRP` and include a command line functionality in it for this purpose.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Here is my output in `/dev`:
```
RMX1911:/ $ ls /dev
ls: /dev/event-log-tags: Permission denied
ls: /dev/.coldboot_done: Permission denied
ls: /dev/cgroup_info: Permission denied
__properties__ gpiochip1 memory_bandwidth pts smd8 v4l-subdev17
adsprpc-smd gpiochip2 msm-rng qce smdcntl8 v4l-subdev18
adsprpc-smd-secure gpiochip3 msm_aac qg snd v4l-subdev19
apr_apps2 graphics msm_aac_in qg_battery socket v4l-subdev2
ashmem hw_random msm_alac qseecom stderr v4l-subdev20
at_mdm0 hwbinder msm_amrnb ramdump_a610_zap stdin v4l-subdev21
at_usb0 hypnus msm_amrnb_in ramdump_adsp stdout v4l-subdev22
at_usb1 i2c-0 msm_amrwb ramdump_cdsp stune v4l-subdev23
at_usb2 icesdcc msm_amrwb_in ramdump_ipa_fws subsys_a610_zap v4l-subdev24
avtimer iceufs msm_amrwbplus ramdump_md_a610_zap subsys_adsp v4l-subdev25
binder iio:device0 msm_ape ramdump_md_adsp subsys_cdsp v4l-subdev26
blkio iio:device1 msm_audio_cal ramdump_md_cdsp subsys_ipa_fws v4l-subdev3
block input msm_evrc ramdump_md_ipa_fws subsys_modem v4l-subdev4
btpower ion msm_evrc_in ramdump_md_modem subsys_venus v4l-subdev5
ccid_bulk ipa msm_g711alaw ramdump_md_venus tty v4l-subdev6
ccid_ctrl ipaIpv6CTTable msm_g711alaw_in ramdump_memshare_DIAG ttyHS0 v4l-subdev7
cg2_bpf ipaNatTable msm_g711mlaw ramdump_memshare_FTM tun v4l-subdev8
console ipa_adpl msm_g711mlaw_in ramdump_memshare_GPS uhid v4l-subdev9
cpu_dma_latency ipa_odl_ctl msm_hdcp ramdump_microdump_modem uinput vga_arbiter
cpu_variant:arm ipa_tethering_bridge msm_hweffects ramdump_modem uio0 video0
cpu_variant:arm64 jpeg0 msm_mp3 ramdump_venus uio1 video1
cpuctl kgsl-3d0 msm_multi_aac ramdump_wcss_msa0 urandom video2
cpuset kmsg msm_qcelp random usb-ffs video3
dcc_sram loop-control msm_qcelp_in rfkill usb_accessory video32
device-mapper mdmreason msm_rtac rmnet_ctrl usf1 video33
dpl_ctrl mdmrst msm_sps rpmsg_ctrl0 v4l-subdev0 video4
dri media0 msm_wma rpmsg_ctrl1 v4l-subdev1 video5
ecryptfs media1 msm_wmapro rpmsg_ctrl2 v4l-subdev10 video6
fd media2 mtp_usb rpmsg_ctrl3 v4l-subdev11 video7
freezer media3 network_latency rtc0 v4l-subdev12 vndbinder
fscklogs media4 network_throughput sensors v4l-subdev13 wlan
full media5 null smcinvoke v4l-subdev14 wwan_ioctl
fuse memcg ppp smd11 v4l-subdev15 zero
gpiochip0 memdev ptmx smd7 v4l-subdev16
```
Based on the provided list, the following entries are related to the modem cellular:
* at\_mdm0: This entry typically represents the modem device in Android systems. It is commonly used for communication with the modem for tasks such as AT commands.
* ipa: This entry refers to the Internet Protocol Accelerator (IPA), which is responsible for handling various network-related tasks, including cellular connectivity.
* mdmreason: This entry is associated with the modem and is used for managing modem reset and initialization operations.
* mdmrst: This entry is also related to the modem and is used for modem reset functionality.
These entries suggest the presence and functionality of the modem cellular in the device.
Rooting a phone can grant greater access to system files and settings, potentially allowing you to access modem devices and perform actions like reading signal strength without a SIM card. However, the ability to interact with modem devices after rooting depends on the specific device, operating system version, and modifications made during the rooting process. Tools like Android Debug Bridge (ADB) commands or modem-specific utilities can be used to retrieve signal strength information, but caution is necessary as accessing and modifying modem devices can lead to instability, loss of functionality, or even damage to the device. Additionally, the availability of signal strength information without a SIM card may vary depending on the device's hardware and software capabilities. Thorough research, consulting reliable sources, and proceeding with caution are recommended before attempting any modifications or accessing modem devices.
Based on most voted answer in this (<https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12855482/sending-at-commands-via-adb-android>), you can perform AT command from given modem device in `/dev` directory, in my phone case is `at_mdm0`
```
echo -e "AT\r\n" > /dev/at_mdm0
```
Now, try `AT+CSQ` to check siqnal quality with modem without SIM card
Upvotes: 2 |
2023/07/22 | 474 | 1,907 | <issue_start>username_0: Suppose I am connected to my Bluetooth speaker. I want to play my Youtube Music/Music Player on the speaker.
Now, if I turn on Instagram reels, what happens is the Music Player gets paused and the audio output happens through the Bluetooth speaker. What I want is for my Insta sound output should be through my phone's speaker.
**Is there any way by which this can be achieved?**
There can be many more use cases for this but this is just a small example.<issue_comment>username_1: If you have a Samsung device, this feature is included with [SoundAssistant](https://galaxystore.samsung.com/detail/com.samsung.android.soundassistant?langCd=en); note that this application isn't usually installed out-of-box. Other devices may vary based on OEM/model/etc, but if there's no native support you should still be able to find a comparable third party application.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I believe this will work as long as your device is indeed an Android, but do you know what version you're running? Just in case it makes a difference, these are the steps for Android 13 and I believe 11 & 12 as well.
Try these steps first
1. Go to your device Settings
2. Tap on Sound & Notifications, or it might say Sound & Volume, or even Sound & Vibration. Depends on your phone. But as long as it mentions Sound.
3. Scroll down and should hopefully see an option of Separate app sound > Tap to select
4. Tap Turn on now
5. For each input:
* App - select the app (or Apps) from the list of installed apps shown
* Audio Device - Select which **different device to use** for your selected app.
It's pretty straightforward after that. Pair and Sync and your Bluetooth should be set up as a separate Device for app sounds. Your system device media player will take care of the Insta reels.
Hope that helps and does the job.
\*\*These steps are for a Samsung phone
Upvotes: 1 |
2023/07/27 | 646 | 2,448 | <issue_start>username_0: How can I get programmatically when the phone was manufactured?
Is there any framework, instrumentation or toolset like Windows [WMIC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Management_Instrumentation) that allows unequivocally get hardware parameters of the device?
I found [this question](https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/120623/how-to-get-the-manufactured-date-information-in-android) but it is old, related to Motorola and has no answers, that is why I decided to ask a new one. I am seeking solution for Samsung phone, but vendor-agnostic way will be way better.
I know about [IMEI way](https://www.imei.info/news/how-know-production-date-my-mobile/) of checking the production date, but I want something more accurate that can be a double check.
Thanks.<issue_comment>username_1: It can be difficult and occasionally impossible to determine a phone's exact manufacturing date programmatically, especially on Android devices because of **privacy and security constraints**.
The manufacturing date of a phone is not directly accessible via a standard Android API or framework.
Using the `Build` class, you can get the build time as shown below:
```
val buildTime = Build.TIME
```
Remember that this represents the *`time at which the firmware was created`*, not the date the device was manufactured.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: Grabbing the exact manufacturing date of a phone programmatically is not a straightforward task, and there is no standard framework or `API` in Android that provides this information aka manufacturing date is not a an `exposed parameter` in the device's hardware or software.
`IMEI` way you mentioned is one of the methods to get an approximate manufacturing date, but it's not always accurate,
The closest I have come to getting this info consistently on all Android versions is this ( `build.prop metadata` )
```
stat -c %y /system/build.prop
2020-12-31 20:30:00
```
On some Android devices this date maybe stored in specific files depending on propriety flavor of Android used ( e.g. MIUI or colors Android ) and Android version. Below are just some pointer approaches to dig it out , rummaging through usual places.
```
find /sys/fs/pstore/ /var/log/ /data/logs/ -type f -exec cat {} \; | grep -E "First boot|Installation date"'
{ cat /proc/kmsg /sys/fs/pstore/dmesg-ramoops-0; logcat ; } | grep -i -E "First boot|Installation date"
```
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/08/01 | 552 | 2,183 | <issue_start>username_0: How can I duplicate a contact in the phone memory of a Samsung Android 11 smartphone without entering the same information again ? This is helpful for example when adding a person in the same organization as an already existing person in this organization.
ChatGPT told me to use the duplicate option in the options menu when editing the contact but there is no options menu in edit mode and the options menu outside edit mode does not contain a duplicate option.
Samsung Contacts app is version 12.7.05.5.<issue_comment>username_1: It can be difficult and occasionally impossible to determine a phone's exact manufacturing date programmatically, especially on Android devices because of **privacy and security constraints**.
The manufacturing date of a phone is not directly accessible via a standard Android API or framework.
Using the `Build` class, you can get the build time as shown below:
```
val buildTime = Build.TIME
```
Remember that this represents the *`time at which the firmware was created`*, not the date the device was manufactured.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: Grabbing the exact manufacturing date of a phone programmatically is not a straightforward task, and there is no standard framework or `API` in Android that provides this information aka manufacturing date is not a an `exposed parameter` in the device's hardware or software.
`IMEI` way you mentioned is one of the methods to get an approximate manufacturing date, but it's not always accurate,
The closest I have come to getting this info consistently on all Android versions is this ( `build.prop metadata` )
```
stat -c %y /system/build.prop
2020-12-31 20:30:00
```
On some Android devices this date maybe stored in specific files depending on propriety flavor of Android used ( e.g. MIUI or colors Android ) and Android version. Below are just some pointer approaches to dig it out , rummaging through usual places.
```
find /sys/fs/pstore/ /var/log/ /data/logs/ -type f -exec cat {} \; | grep -E "First boot|Installation date"'
{ cat /proc/kmsg /sys/fs/pstore/dmesg-ramoops-0; logcat ; } | grep -i -E "First boot|Installation date"
```
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/08/04 | 520 | 1,979 | <issue_start>username_0: I can't disable Parental control or add my own account on my son's Samsung Galaxy S10. The only option available since my son is only 9 is to remove or delete the account.
As per updated Google Play services version 23.24.14 2023, they recommend the device for factory settings.
Is there any other way?<issue_comment>username_1: It can be difficult and occasionally impossible to determine a phone's exact manufacturing date programmatically, especially on Android devices because of **privacy and security constraints**.
The manufacturing date of a phone is not directly accessible via a standard Android API or framework.
Using the `Build` class, you can get the build time as shown below:
```
val buildTime = Build.TIME
```
Remember that this represents the *`time at which the firmware was created`*, not the date the device was manufactured.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: Grabbing the exact manufacturing date of a phone programmatically is not a straightforward task, and there is no standard framework or `API` in Android that provides this information aka manufacturing date is not a an `exposed parameter` in the device's hardware or software.
`IMEI` way you mentioned is one of the methods to get an approximate manufacturing date, but it's not always accurate,
The closest I have come to getting this info consistently on all Android versions is this ( `build.prop metadata` )
```
stat -c %y /system/build.prop
2020-12-31 20:30:00
```
On some Android devices this date maybe stored in specific files depending on propriety flavor of Android used ( e.g. MIUI or colors Android ) and Android version. Below are just some pointer approaches to dig it out , rummaging through usual places.
```
find /sys/fs/pstore/ /var/log/ /data/logs/ -type f -exec cat {} \; | grep -E "First boot|Installation date"'
{ cat /proc/kmsg /sys/fs/pstore/dmesg-ramoops-0; logcat ; } | grep -i -E "First boot|Installation date"
```
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/08/06 | 526 | 2,079 | <issue_start>username_0: The Google play store has a line in their TOS that gives them the right to install arbitrary apps/updates without consent of the user.
Sadly, some apps appear to require play store to be enabled to work (eg. the official chatGPT app).
Is there any way to remove the play store as an acceptable app installation source, to completely prevent the risk of it installing something without explicit consent?<issue_comment>username_1: It can be difficult and occasionally impossible to determine a phone's exact manufacturing date programmatically, especially on Android devices because of **privacy and security constraints**.
The manufacturing date of a phone is not directly accessible via a standard Android API or framework.
Using the `Build` class, you can get the build time as shown below:
```
val buildTime = Build.TIME
```
Remember that this represents the *`time at which the firmware was created`*, not the date the device was manufactured.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: Grabbing the exact manufacturing date of a phone programmatically is not a straightforward task, and there is no standard framework or `API` in Android that provides this information aka manufacturing date is not a an `exposed parameter` in the device's hardware or software.
`IMEI` way you mentioned is one of the methods to get an approximate manufacturing date, but it's not always accurate,
The closest I have come to getting this info consistently on all Android versions is this ( `build.prop metadata` )
```
stat -c %y /system/build.prop
2020-12-31 20:30:00
```
On some Android devices this date maybe stored in specific files depending on propriety flavor of Android used ( e.g. MIUI or colors Android ) and Android version. Below are just some pointer approaches to dig it out , rummaging through usual places.
```
find /sys/fs/pstore/ /var/log/ /data/logs/ -type f -exec cat {} \; | grep -E "First boot|Installation date"'
{ cat /proc/kmsg /sys/fs/pstore/dmesg-ramoops-0; logcat ; } | grep -i -E "First boot|Installation date"
```
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/08/11 | 720 | 2,819 | <issue_start>username_0: About a month ago, I dropped my Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra about 10 cm above my sink, and it got a small dead pixel on the left edge near the top. The problem is that it has affected the whole area below the impact point, doing so that every time the light intensity gets too bright, for example, if I am accessing a white webpage with light intensity of 100%, the area below the dead pixel just turns black. But if I have the light intensity set to 10%, I can see the screen but the bottom area is still flickering.
I thought I could live with it, but I can't use my phone outside if I can only have the light intensity on 10%.
I know it's something to do with the screen, but I think it's weird that the top works completely fine, and everywhere beneath the impact point is broken. So I hope that it could be a loose cable or something and not the whole screen that has been destroyed due to a small dead pixel.
My question is, do you think it could be a loose cable or another thing I could fix without buying a new screen that costs 270€? Because if that's the case, I think I will just hold on for another month and switch to a new phone.<issue_comment>username_1: It can be difficult and occasionally impossible to determine a phone's exact manufacturing date programmatically, especially on Android devices because of **privacy and security constraints**.
The manufacturing date of a phone is not directly accessible via a standard Android API or framework.
Using the `Build` class, you can get the build time as shown below:
```
val buildTime = Build.TIME
```
Remember that this represents the *`time at which the firmware was created`*, not the date the device was manufactured.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: Grabbing the exact manufacturing date of a phone programmatically is not a straightforward task, and there is no standard framework or `API` in Android that provides this information aka manufacturing date is not a an `exposed parameter` in the device's hardware or software.
`IMEI` way you mentioned is one of the methods to get an approximate manufacturing date, but it's not always accurate,
The closest I have come to getting this info consistently on all Android versions is this ( `build.prop metadata` )
```
stat -c %y /system/build.prop
2020-12-31 20:30:00
```
On some Android devices this date maybe stored in specific files depending on propriety flavor of Android used ( e.g. MIUI or colors Android ) and Android version. Below are just some pointer approaches to dig it out , rummaging through usual places.
```
find /sys/fs/pstore/ /var/log/ /data/logs/ -type f -exec cat {} \; | grep -E "First boot|Installation date"'
{ cat /proc/kmsg /sys/fs/pstore/dmesg-ramoops-0; logcat ; } | grep -i -E "First boot|Installation date"
```
Upvotes: 0 |
2023/08/16 | 1,187 | 4,260 | <issue_start>username_0: I noticed this yesterday.
I went onto Play Store and had "10 app updates available".
I then went on to Aurora Store and there were "125 app updates available".
I checked the version number of a few apps online, and it did seem as though the updates were legitimate.
My questions:
* Are the updates on Aurora Store legitimate?
* And, if so, why are they not showing on Play Store?<issue_comment>username_1: Aurora Store is same as Play Store
==================================
* Aurora app source is Play Store. [Aurora Store](https://aurora-store.en.uptodown.com/android) says
>
> Overall, Aurora Store is an intriguing app, that completes two functions. First of all, it makes it easy to download virtually any APK **offered on Google Play**, and second, it enables you to manage the apps already on your device. All from an elegant, intuitive interface.
>
>
>
(Emphasis added)
This makes it clear that the source for Aurora is Play Store. Also the [FAQ](https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore/-/wikis/Frequently%20Asked%20Questions) has this
>
> **Is it safe to use Aurora store?**
>
>
>
>
> Aurora Store is fully open-source and verified by F-Droid. If you're asking about the safety of the apps in the store, those are the **exact same ones the Play Store would load and display**. A lot of dangerous stuff seems to sneak past Google though, so as a rule of thumb, don't download anything which you're unsure about.
>
>
>
Why does Aurora show more updates than Play Store?
==================================================
* Play Store follows [Release app updates with staged rollouts](https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/6346149?hl=en&sjid=5156686814281342623-AP). This could be the reason why you see less apps available in your region, Staged rollouts are:
>
> New and existing users are eligible to receive updates from staged rollouts and are chosen at random for each new release rollout.
>
>
>
>
> Your app update will be available to the percentage of users in your staged rollout, but it may take time for the full group to receive the update.
>
>
>
>
> Users won't be notified if they receive a version of your app in a staged rollout.
>
>
>
>
> If you choose specific countries for your staged rollout, the upgrade will be limited to users with Google Play accounts in those locations.
>
>
>
username_2's [answer](https://android.stackexchange.com/a/252782/131553) gives additional reasons for staged rollouts
To summarize, you won't see all app updates available on Play Store
Aurora Store is legitimate
==========================
**The updates in Aurora are legitimate** Aurora store is open source [hosted on Github](https://github.com/whyorean/AuroraStore) and the latest update to readme says
>
> The source code for Aurora Store is actively developed on GitLab. You can find the latest updates, contribute to development, and track the progress on the [Aurora Store GitLab repository](https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore)
>
>
>
Hence, there is no reason at all to doubt the authenticity of Aurora Store. As a side note the developer of Aurora store is also the developer of [Warden](https://github.com/whyorean/Warden) which is a tool for privacy conscious users, since
>
> Detects Trackers & Loggers across whole device
>
>
>
>
> Allows to disable all trackers/logger
>
>
>
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: App developers usually don't publish app updates immediately to all users. Instead they publish new app versions only a small subset of users (may be 5-10%) that is increasing over time ("staged rollout").
This is a precautionary measure, because if something goes wrong e.g. an app always crashes on a certain device or on devices by a certain manufacturer then this can easily lead to a denial-of-service attack against the app support (e.g. a forum) when millions of customers trying to reach the app support.
The Aurora Store uses internally Google Play Store but using a different account. Therefore it can happen the Aurora Store account is in the group of accounts which get access to the app update earlier, therefore in this case the app update is visible earlier in Aurora Store.
Upvotes: 2 |
2023/08/23 | 1,161 | 4,183 | <issue_start>username_0: Hi i have a Samsung Galaxy A30S.
I added a screen lock pin code and can't remember it.
The airplane mode is activated and I cannot turn it off, cause it's asking for pin number.
I don't want to do a hard or factory reset since I have very important memories of photos and phone numbers in it. Please Help.<issue_comment>username_1: Aurora Store is same as Play Store
==================================
* Aurora app source is Play Store. [Aurora Store](https://aurora-store.en.uptodown.com/android) says
>
> Overall, Aurora Store is an intriguing app, that completes two functions. First of all, it makes it easy to download virtually any APK **offered on Google Play**, and second, it enables you to manage the apps already on your device. All from an elegant, intuitive interface.
>
>
>
(Emphasis added)
This makes it clear that the source for Aurora is Play Store. Also the [FAQ](https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore/-/wikis/Frequently%20Asked%20Questions) has this
>
> **Is it safe to use Aurora store?**
>
>
>
>
> Aurora Store is fully open-source and verified by F-Droid. If you're asking about the safety of the apps in the store, those are the **exact same ones the Play Store would load and display**. A lot of dangerous stuff seems to sneak past Google though, so as a rule of thumb, don't download anything which you're unsure about.
>
>
>
Why does Aurora show more updates than Play Store?
==================================================
* Play Store follows [Release app updates with staged rollouts](https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/6346149?hl=en&sjid=5156686814281342623-AP). This could be the reason why you see less apps available in your region, Staged rollouts are:
>
> New and existing users are eligible to receive updates from staged rollouts and are chosen at random for each new release rollout.
>
>
>
>
> Your app update will be available to the percentage of users in your staged rollout, but it may take time for the full group to receive the update.
>
>
>
>
> Users won't be notified if they receive a version of your app in a staged rollout.
>
>
>
>
> If you choose specific countries for your staged rollout, the upgrade will be limited to users with Google Play accounts in those locations.
>
>
>
username_2's [answer](https://android.stackexchange.com/a/252782/131553) gives additional reasons for staged rollouts
To summarize, you won't see all app updates available on Play Store
Aurora Store is legitimate
==========================
**The updates in Aurora are legitimate** Aurora store is open source [hosted on Github](https://github.com/whyorean/AuroraStore) and the latest update to readme says
>
> The source code for Aurora Store is actively developed on GitLab. You can find the latest updates, contribute to development, and track the progress on the [Aurora Store GitLab repository](https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore)
>
>
>
Hence, there is no reason at all to doubt the authenticity of Aurora Store. As a side note the developer of Aurora store is also the developer of [Warden](https://github.com/whyorean/Warden) which is a tool for privacy conscious users, since
>
> Detects Trackers & Loggers across whole device
>
>
>
>
> Allows to disable all trackers/logger
>
>
>
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: App developers usually don't publish app updates immediately to all users. Instead they publish new app versions only a small subset of users (may be 5-10%) that is increasing over time ("staged rollout").
This is a precautionary measure, because if something goes wrong e.g. an app always crashes on a certain device or on devices by a certain manufacturer then this can easily lead to a denial-of-service attack against the app support (e.g. a forum) when millions of customers trying to reach the app support.
The Aurora Store uses internally Google Play Store but using a different account. Therefore it can happen the Aurora Store account is in the group of accounts which get access to the app update earlier, therefore in this case the app update is visible earlier in Aurora Store.
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/11 | 490 | 1,760 | <issue_start>username_0: Examples include [Avatar](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417299/), [Korra](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1695360/) and, to some extent, [<NAME>](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0278238/). They're all widely popular American cartoons, sometimes even referred to as *[Amerime](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime-influenced_animation)*.
Are questions about these series on-topic?<issue_comment>username_1: Tough, I also had thoughts about it. I believe that by definition, we should *not* allow such cartoons, because we need to draw the line.
The line should be drawn at "Anime & Manga only", which by definition is only Japanese.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I recently watched a Youtube video where an American asked some Japanese people what their favorite manga and anime were. One girl answered that SpongeBob was her favorite "anime".
It seems to me that Japanese people don't make the distinction between western cartoons and anime like we do. Therefore I'd rather be on the permissive side when it comes to which content is allowed or not.
On the other hand, I do strongly feel that there must be at least some Japanese influence to the show. Otherwise this site might just as well be called the Cartoons and Comics SE.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: I agree that Korra/ATLA and Samurai Jack and anime-inspired *Western* shows should be disallowed.
However, I do feel that manhwa *should* be on topic. A lot of manhwa / manhua looks just like doujinshi or independent manga.
To clarify: I *don't* think anything that "looks like" manga should be on topic here. However, manhua and manhwa are the products of Japan's historical dominance of East Asia, both economically/politically and culturally.
Upvotes: 0 |
2012/12/11 | 612 | 2,361 | <issue_start>username_0: Many anime are derived from visual/light novels, so it only feels natural to also discuss them here. What do you think?<issue_comment>username_1: I think this SE should probably be renamed to something so that all mediums of otaku culture are included, not just visual novels.
There are light novels, vocaloid, doujinshi, etc. that would all serve well on one site since the demographics for these are very similar.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: I think light novels, and other paraphernelia tangential to the "main" anime/manga fandom should be on topic here.
That said, I also believe the site need ***not*** be renamed to enumerate these items' inclusion. Most anime fans I know accept that these things are part of *otaku* culture.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_3: I think that I will cite <NAME>'s response to this question: [Are live-action series based on anime/manga/light novels on topic here?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/13/are-live-action-series-based-on-anime-manga-light-novels-on-topic-here). I think that only anime and manga should be discussed on this site, though questions about comparisons between light novels and their corresponding anime/manga, for example, should be allowed. That draws a pretty solid line.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: There was a recent discussion on [Chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/7287140#7287140) regarding a question about [Melty Blood](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/507/which-melty-blood-games-are-relevant-plotwise), pertaining relevancy of such games.
In essence it's a family of games which are in various proportions a mix of fighting game genre and Visual Novel - in the "story mode" the VN progresses along a plotline and from time to time duels occur. Now the proportion of fighting to plot varies wildly between those, and the asker wanted to know the order in which to play to follow the storyline of Tsukihime.
The consensus on Chat was that questions about that kind of games are relevant only if they ask about (or depend strictly on) the plot aspects of the game. Questions that pertain to the game mechanics, multiplayer, and other elements that are not directly relevant to the VN part are better asked on Arquade.
(in particular, the question about order is on-topic)
Upvotes: 3 |
2012/12/11 | 1,060 | 4,119 | <issue_start>username_0: I spotted this question — [What software is used for making anime?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/4/) — and would love to answer it, but I'm not convinced it's gelling with the other questions asked so far. Moreover, I know there's a [Graphic Design SE](https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/) that may be more appropriate for these types of questions. So are questions about how to make anime and manga off-topic?<issue_comment>username_1: I believe they should be off-topic. They're, as you said, better suited to [Graphic Design](http://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com) and are more about the animation process (not unique to anime) rather than the medium itself.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I strongly disagree to banish this kind of interesting and smart questions from Anime & Manga. At a question like that, the right answer is to back in topic by listing software used in a specific anime as an example. I'm thinking about Hoshi no Koe, the first self-producted anime by Makoto Shinkai: in the booklet, software he used back in early 2000 are listed: Photoshop 5 (2D), Lightwave 6.5 (CGI), Commotion DV3, Adobe After Effects 4.0. Is this information irrelevant? Are question about techniques a taboo?
*Note: this was previously a comment, moved here after username_1 suggestion above.*
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: As per my comment on [What software is used for making anime?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/4/) and on OP:
* The question should be about *real knowledge* of *Japanese* production ***internals***.
* The question must have *nothing* to do with "may Adobe After Effects be good for" kind of speculation. ***Speculation is bad.*** *Speculation* **is** what *makes* these questions *'off-topic'*.
* The question should not be about software.
* The question must be *focused tightly* on the **knowledge** of how Japanese **actually** make anime, **not** on how they might.
* The question has no place on [Video Production](https://video.stackexchange.com/), nor on [Japanese Language](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/), and definitely not on [Graphic Design](https://graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/). Western artists and craftspeople don't work in Japan, and most of them probably have *no clue* how Japanese **actually** make anime. They are no experts in *Japanese* internals, and western internals *are not interesting in anime production.*
* There is a real question hidden there about Japanese commons of anime production that could be very special and quite distinct from anything else. Personally, I very seldom read or watch western-style, but love manga and anime. It's for a reason: Japanese are so much more *advanced* in them. Just like their seiyuu are of *much, much higher quality* and thus the seiyuu training *internals* would be equally interesting as the anime production *internals*.
Strictly throw away *all* speculation about *any* method or tool. Throw away *all* western stuff. Focus on actual *Japanese* production.
And then it is *on-topic*, and ***only*** on topic **here**.
---
**Edit:**
Questions like [How are visual novels written? [closed]](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/420/) *would* be very interesting *and* on-topic ***if*** they would ask how ***Japanese*** **actually** create manga, anime and visual novels.
The ***problem*** is that *instead* they ask how these things ***could be*** created. But that is *not* interesting and is off-topic, because it results in speculation and advice that *doesn't* explain how actual Japanese *achieve* their generally *very high quality*. It is true that any *general western software, graphic design or AV expert could give speculative ideas about how "some kind of animation"* **could** *be made*. They would make actual facts about western methods, *but most of them could only give* **speculations** about *Japanese* methods on *other* SE sites.
**But** if these questions are *re-worded* to *focus* ***only*** *on* ***actual Japanese*** *production method* ***knowledge***, then it makes them a very interesting and on-topic question.
Upvotes: 3 |
2012/12/11 | 1,190 | 4,331 | <issue_start>username_0: We should start thinking about the FAQ for the site.
Some of the points I think we should agree on:
* What kinds of questions are good on-topic questions on this site?
* Where is the line drawn between on-topic and off-topic?
Probably there are more, we should discuss.<issue_comment>username_1: I'll post my views here. I'll be fixing the answer if new issues come up.
* Same as on Movies SE, I think we should forbid questions about **future** releases. So anything like:
>
> Will there be an Anime for this Manga?
>
> When will this Manga volume be published?
>
> *and so on...*
>
>
>
They are Not constructive as they invite for speculation.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I think we should include a faq on how to use the spoiler markup in the faq or somewhere more accessible for new users, as anime contains a lot of spoilers and many new users don't use the advanced help link when creating a question.
Just looking for a better way to inform users about the markup, otherwise this will be the main job for moderaters, implementing spoiler markup for questions by new users.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_1: >
> **Disclaimer**: This answer is Community Wiki so feel free to add, fix, change, etc. When we see it's completed, we'll use this as our FAQ.
>
>
>
**Spoiler**: In order to insert spoilers in your question, write your spoiler as a blockquote, but adding an exclamation mark, like `>!`. Every line with these symbols will be hidden until you hover with your cursor.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Importing some conclusions from [Can we also discuss Visual Novels, Light Novels and other related media?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3/can-we-also-discuss-visual-novels-light-novels-and-other-related-media)
To be added to on-topic list:
* Visual novels, light novels, and other tangentially related media (e.g. drama CDs) to the "main" anime/manga fandom
Possibly within a separate point:
* Fighting, shooters, and similar games derivative from common Anime/Manga franchise:
* Plot-centric questions related to events described in these games and how they fit in the plotline of the franchise are on-topic
* Questions about game mechanics, technical, and other aspects not related to the plot of these games belong in [Arqade](https://gaming.stackexchange.com/).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: I think it should be specified in the FAQ what exactly we are accepting as anime/manga. For example, it should be made clear that there are certain criteria that make something fit under the category of anime or manga. For anime, [How is anime defined?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/157/how-is-anime-defined) has some good answers, and while one hasn't been specifically chosen yet by the person asking, they generally have the same idea that the definition should be based on origin.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_5: How to [cite sources](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/191/98) for real world questions and in-universe questions; a list of reliable sources we can trust and use as reference, i.e. to check if [a work is or it's not an anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/69/98); a suggestion (not a strict rule) to adopt a neutral cultural perspective when [making a question](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/193/what-should-be-the-cultural-perspective-of-anime-and-manga-se) to avoid endless discussions about definitions. This should be implemented by [asking author of the question](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/206/98) to reformulate his/her question and not by rewriting.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_6: Two things the FAQ should add:
* **Recommendation charts:** Based on popularity, genre and demographic. There are many examples ([this](http://images.wikia.com/animu-mango/images/8/89/1266460057179.jpg) and [this](http://images.wikia.com/animu-mango/images/7/70/1262839877207.jpg)) that allow people to see some wide variety of titles before asking what to watch.
* **Season X tag:** Mainly to avoid getting a lot of new tags, maybe having a specific tag per season would allow people to find about new shows that are currently airing.
This two small things would help a lot to filter repetitive posts or maybe issues for new shows.
Upvotes: -1 |
2012/12/11 | 771 | 3,183 | <issue_start>username_0: Re: [How do you extract texts into a text format that you can copy and paste from visual novels?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/28/)
Should these questions be on-topic for this site, or should they be moved to Super User?<issue_comment>username_1: Questions like this are more about the process of extracting text from a compressed video file. These are *not* questions unique to the anime/visual novel medium (they could apply to other types of files that fit the same parameters) and are thus off-topic.
Super User is a good choice. Also consider [Digital Signal Processing](http://dsp.stackexchange.com).
By extension, this applies to questions asking how to extract subtitles from a compressed file.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: I think as a matter of practicality, the people who are qualified to answer these questions will be in greater abundance here than there. As such, assuming it's on topic on both sites, here is probably the better place.
As for whether it is on topic here, I'm all for including it for now. Maybe it doesn't formally match the proposal description, but these sorts of things should be ironed out during the private beta, rather than just following the description. If we find that these questions are overwhelming the more directly relevant ones we can remove them, but I think they are likely to be uncommon and will be a good reference for those who use the site provided that they stay that way.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: Visual Novels, Manga and Anime largely share the same target audiences, market venues, niches, cultures, and even categories (shoujo, harem, shounen, hentai, etc.) so I really think this is relevant to this site, and should be included in the FAQ.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: I'm inclined against the question being on topic. It is entirely a technical question, and does not involve plots/themes/trivia of the medium at all.
The relevant variables in this question are:
* Operating System
* Applocale or base locale switching?
* Full Japanese OS or just Japanese Language package?
* Game platform (which technology base is the Visual Novel using)
... all but the last are utterly irrelevant to this site.
The analogous question to this one over on movies would be "How do I digitize my Betamax movie collection?". Although it's true that movie-buffs are more likely to have an answer, it's also offtopic.
With that said, if we create an 'enhanced FAQ' entry that specifies whether Visual Novel questions themselves are on/offtopic, I think it would be good for that FAQ item to include the answer to this particular question as a snippet. (I'm also contemplating adding it to the [resources FAQ](https://japanese.meta.stackexchange.com/q/756/29) over on the Japanese language site.)
EDIT: I think those who support this question as ontopic need to explain whether "I can't play Episode X of anime Y from group Z, help!" is ontopic or not. Or heck, even "Why can't I play Visual Novel X?" These are just examples of other technical questions that are peripherally related to anime... that anime fans are most likely to have the solutions for.
Upvotes: -1 |
2012/12/11 | 922 | 3,569 | <issue_start>username_0: When I was asking a [question about Bleach](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/37/will-bleach-air-again) (the anime), I wanted to use/create the [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") tag, as I wanted to point out that the question was about the anime and not the manga.
I got the error that the anime tag is not allowed. Which is understandable (at first), but in this situation I suppose it was legit to use!
I suppose the same goes for the [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") tag..?
My suggestion is to do allow these tags, so people are able to specify/narrow down about what they are talking.
**Edit**: I just see that the [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") tag, is [being allowed](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga)?<issue_comment>username_1: So, after conferring with the team, I changed my mind. We're going to allow for both [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") and [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") because they would allow for users to filter questions better, and to allow for specific canon references.
That said: I think it would be better if we treated tags the same as on [Science Fiction and Fantasy](http://scifi.stackexchange.com), where you can just state in the question that this is about the Star Wars movie, or a specific Star Wars book, etc. The tag would be [star-wars](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/star-wars "show questions tagged 'star-wars'") and the question body specifies canon.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I think this is a horrible idea. I can all-but-guarantee you it will become the most-overused and abused tags on the site.
>
> Questions tagged [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'")
>
> This tag indicates that the question is specific to the anime version of a series that exists as both anime and manga, or movie(s).
>
>
>
I get that some questions are about an anime-specific version of the work — so describe that in your question; not with tags. Otherwise, we'd have a [movie](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/movie "show questions tagged 'movie'") tag on our Movie & TV site used only for movies that just happen to have TV versions. Sound silly, doesn't it?
Users are never going to understand that an [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") tag is only for questions that are specific to the anime-version of a series that exists as both anime and manga. Users are going to try and use this for *every* question that is either anime or menga.
But your can't divide a site into large swaths like this. These discussions go back as far back as our Cooking site when some folks were only interested in "savory vs. sweet" while another wanted "vegetarian vs. non-vegetarian." The tags will convey no useful information. At best it will be a horribly incomplete categorization system.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: Why not create tags [anime-only](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-only "show questions tagged 'anime-only'") and [manga-only](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-only "show questions tagged 'manga-only'")?
Upvotes: 0 |
2012/12/11 | 449 | 1,659 | <issue_start>username_0: I just had to ask but are discussions on hentai topics allowed here? It is something that people might end up doing here, so I just wanted someone to clear the air.<issue_comment>username_1: It seems like it should be allowed. It's anime. That said, it's probably also the case that it should be policed pretty tightly...but then, I guess everything is like that. I don't imagine too many questions will come up about it, but I don't see any reason to police them any differently than any other question. If it's a reasonable question, vote it up and try to answer it. If not, vote it down. If it's offensive, flag it.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I would imagine if anything, it would have the same rules as the failed [Sexuality.SE](http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3303/sexuality)
We have a [similar](https://movies.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263/are-adult-movies-as-far-as-industry-actors-etc-are-concerned-on-topic) rule on Movies.SE about Adult-Movies that everything should be kept in a scientific sense.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: I would say, questions regarding the best material to wank off to should be 100% not allowed. However, discussions regarding some of the other aspects of hentai should be fine. Some of the highest animation qualities I've ever seen have been in hentai works, and the story-lines of some are surprisingly well thought out.
Of course, this is assuming you're talking about honest-to-god hentai, and not just simple ecchi. Anime like Gakuen Mokushiroku or Highschool DxD are not hentai. They're ecchi. they should be 100% fine here.
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/11 | 2,457 | 9,559 | <issue_start>username_0: I've seen we have a tag for [bleach](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/bleach "show questions tagged 'bleach'"), [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'"), [dragonball-z](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/dragonball-z "show questions tagged 'dragonball-z'"), etc. Should that be what we do going forward for every series? Have a [neon-genesis-evangelion](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/neon-genesis-evangelion "show questions tagged 'neon-genesis-evangelion'") tag? A [fullmetal-alchemist](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/fullmetal-alchemist "show questions tagged 'fullmetal-alchemist'") tag? Or will that give us way too many tags, since there are quite a few different series out there? Is there some threshold of popularity you need to merit a tag for a given series?<issue_comment>username_1: I think we should take a cue from [Science Fiction and Fantasy](http://scifi.stackexchange.com) here; for a distinct work, have a tag for the work. It doesn't matter if there's only *one* question for the tag, if it's about a legitimate on topic work, then the tag should exist for searchability as well as future questions.
If the work is part of a series, then a tag for the series can exist as well.
An example of would be [macross](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/macross "show questions tagged 'macross'") as well as [macross-plus](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/macross-plus "show questions tagged 'macross-plus'").
Perhaps, for series, we would want to do something like [macross-series](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/macross-series "show questions tagged 'macross-series'") and then have [macross](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/macross "show questions tagged 'macross'") for the original and then [macross-plus](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/macross-plus "show questions tagged 'macross-plus'").
If this approach is taken, then we should request that [the script that deletes tags that have a low number of posts on them](https://meta.stackexchange.com/q/127700/140951) be disabled for this site.
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Thinking about this more, we might actually need *more* than one tag per series. Given that each series has commonly accepted Japanese *and* English titles, we'll probably need to be able to tag the question with both of them.
I don't know that synonyms are a good thing here, because it might cause flame wars over what the preference site-wide should be (and we certainly don't *not* have the space for two tags for a series on the question).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I think it's perfectly acceptable. There're language specific tags over on Stack Overflow, one for each language, and sometimes even more ([php](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/php "show questions tagged 'php'") [php4](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/php4 "show questions tagged 'php4'") [php5](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/php5 "show questions tagged 'php5'") etc).
On Arqade, there's a tag for each game. So I disagree with you. Anime/Manga specific tags should be allowed.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Yes
There's no other way to identify which Anime is applicable to the question other than in the question title. This can get unwieldy - especially for longer titles.
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And also for questions that apply to multiple Anime series such as: "To Aru Majutsu no Index" and "To Aru Kagaku no Railgun".
It's better to just apply both tags instead of trying to squeeze them into the title.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: Yes. A series tag is a vital part of a question on a site about literature, gaming, et cetera, and are a great example of the type of tags a site should have.
* **Represent an area of expertise**: It's possible for users to be an expert in a specific series, having an in-depth knowledge of it's world and characters.
* **Useful as a Filter**: Ideally our site will have a large volume of questions. With this in mind being able to easily sort by series is essential to make finding relevant questions easy and painless. Can you imagine trying to track down a question for a specific series if we didn't have series tags? Not only would it a painful experience, it would be enough for people to not want to use the site (I wouldn't. Searching would be impossible)
* **A Tag People will Follow**: Users will always be willing to follow (favourite) a series tag, and are likely to be among the top followed tags on the site. Due to this, they should exist.
* **A Tag People Will Want to Ignore**: If I don't read a series, then I won't care about any of it's questions aside from moderation purposes. Due to this I should be able to ignore any questions from this tag so they don't clog up on my front page. This is also very useful for **spoilers.** If I'm currently in the process of watching a series which I'm not up to date on I won't want to stumble across spoilers when I visit the front page of the site. The ability to ignore and hide tags is ideal for solving this problem.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_5: Honestly, I'm not sure if there is a good justification for any other kind of tag, at the moment.
The first tag tends to dominate SEO considerations (since it is prepended to the page title), and should generally match the series name.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_6: I suggest you consider *not* just holing yourselves into the "one tag per anime/manga" mindset for a number of reasons we learned the hard way in Gaming:
* **Tag length limit.** You'd be surprised how often this comes up. Want to talk about "Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation"? "assassins-creed-3-liberation" is way too long, "assassins-creed-liberation" is 26 characters...
* **Title localization.** Are you going to use "death-note" or "デスノート"? You can accept both, but you need to pick the one that goes in the titlebar — and that's very important Google-wise. So you might decide "okay, let's go with the English title whenever possible because the site is in English." What about animes that lack an *official* title in English, then?
* **Lack of character support.** Remember what I said about accepting "デスノート" as a tag or at least a tag synonym? Yeah, you can't do that. Yet. UTF-8 support in tags is currently only being tried on [Japanese.SE](https://japanese.meta.stackexchange.com/a/966/2908), afaik. Sure, it's easy to see a request for enabling this feature here too granted, but you should still be aware that it comes to the price of stability.
* **[untagged](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/untagged "show questions tagged 'untagged'").** A work that doesn't get two questions asked about it in the same six months gets retroactively changed into [untagged](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/untagged "show questions tagged 'untagged'"). If you rely solely on tags to know what anime/manga you're talking about, that... is very bad news. Thanks to Patents.SE and much pressure, Arqade managed to disable this process at the cost of, well, automatically pruning tags that do deserve pruning. That's another "special needs" request you might want to look into, at any rate.
Additionally there are a few ways that would make this even worse for Anime.SE than it is for Arqade:
* **Questions that are not about a single manga are on-topic.** On Arqade questions about games in general are regarded as "game design questions" more appropriate for GameDev. This is not true here and there's already plenty of questions about anime design, reading and production in general. What I've found is that "one tag per game" tends to cannibalize all other forms of tagging (consider for example [plot-disconnect](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/plot-disconnect "show questions tagged 'plot-disconnect'"), which one could easily consider a poisonous meta-tag that isn't useful as a filter or as an area of experitse.) The thought process that kicks in eventually is that "single work tags" are the superior kind of tag and everything else is useless. You clearly don't want this.
* **Even when it comes to "single work per tag," you still need to distinguish between anime and manga versions.** Except when you don't. Arqade approaches this by using (for example) "mass-effect-series" when asking questions about all Mass Effect canon (as opposed to "mass-effect" which is just about the first game), but such an approach is less likely to work well here. Consider "one-note": is it about the manga, the anime, both?
It is silly to say "don't make tags for single anime/mangas" (you *will* want tags for all major works - but where do you draw the line?), but going the opposite side and making a tag for *all* single animes or mangas brings about a lot of challenges, most of which aren't actually fun or rewarding to overcome. You end up wasting time on how to tag "Asaoka High School Baseball Club Diary: Over Fence", cursing about [untagged](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/untagged "show questions tagged 'untagged'") and generally not spending time actually doing questions and answers.
This is still day one and you still have a chance to break from the tyranny of "one game per tag." I suggest you consider it, starting perhaps by being precise in either the question title or body about what your question is actually about.
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/11 | 414 | 1,397 | <issue_start>username_0: This is the very first private beta I participate in. From what I understand, it takes about (sometimes more) a week for it to be a public beta.
When are moderators for it elected? During public beta? After it airs as an ordinary site?<issue_comment>username_1: Moderators are *appointed* a few weeks into public beta (by us, the Stack Exchange Inc. [Community Team](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/99338/who-are-the-community-managers-and-what-do-they-do)); if/when the site graduates, there'll be an actual election where folks nominate themselves and other folks vote for them.
See:
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* [Moderator Pro Tempore](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/07/moderator-pro-tempore/)
* [Stack Exchange Moderator Elections Begin](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/12/stack-exchange-moderator-elections-begin/)
* [A Theory of Moderation](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2009/05/a-theory-of-moderation/)
* [The 7 Essential Meta Questions of Every Beta](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/07/the-7-essential-meta-questions-of-every-beta/)
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: According to [this older blogpost](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/07/moderator-pro-tempore/), sometime around 7 days into a beta, moderators are selected.
If I understand correctly, until that point, we get a bit of extra attention from the global moderators.
Upvotes: 0 |
2012/12/11 | 938 | 3,901 | <issue_start>username_0: Many people only know a franchise by its English name, but some don't even have an official English name / title. What should be our policy on that?
I'd personally prefer the romanized Japanese and a tag synonym from the English one.<issue_comment>username_1: Here's my idea:
All types should be allowed. But we may need to pick a primary and synonymize all the others to it.
As for which we pick, I think that will depend on which one is most well recognized. (which may be different for each series) So I suggest we let multiple tags propagate first. And after a while we synonymize all the less used ones to the most used one.
Pros:
This will keep things organized and together. So we don't get the questions split across 3 different versions of the same tag. When someone enters any one of the tags, it'll auto-correct to the primary.
Cons:
It may be difficult to search for if the primary tag does not match what people are searching for.
So suppose we synonymize: [senjou-no-valkyria](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/senjou-no-valkyria "show questions tagged 'senjou-no-valkyria'") to [valkyria-chronicles](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/valkyria-chronicles "show questions tagged 'valkyria-chronicles'")
All questions about that Anime will be tagged [valkyria-chronicles](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/valkyria-chronicles "show questions tagged 'valkyria-chronicles'"), but searching for "Senjou no Valkyria" may not yield the question.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: It really heavily depends.
I think that for most cases, the English name should be the main. Although we won't start calling [pokemon](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/pokemon "show questions tagged 'pokemon'") as [pocket-monsters](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/pocket-monsters "show questions tagged 'pocket-monsters'").
It depends on the level of popularity of the English name against the Japanese, and how it was translated originally.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: For starters, we shouldn't just let anyone use any language they want for the tag names. We need to be consistent. Having some series tags in Japanese, and others in English is just confusing. We should strive to make things *less* confusing, not more. I think we can all agree that being consistent with language use is an easy way to make things less confusing.
Second, I think we can all agree that we should have a primary tag (to be consistent), but also have a synonym in the other language so that users searching for either language can find their questions. Remember, this is all about making things less confusing for the users.
Finally, the language we should use for the primary series tag should be the English name of the series, and the Japanese name should be a synonym. There are two reasons for this, the first being that the official language of Stack Exchange is English. I don't see any reason to use the Japanese name when we're all going to be typing in English.
The second, more important, reason, is to make things easier for users. Although I'm sure a sizable portion of our beta user base will be familiar with both the Japanese and English names of the series, this isn't going to be true for the community at large. After all, when you first starting watching anime did you have any idea what the Japanese name for any of the series you watched was? Probably not (assuming you're not from Japan). With this in mind, it makes sense that your average user will be searching for the English name, and not the Japanese name. So going with English just makes more sense. Remember, we want to make things *less* confusing for users, not more.
**EDIT**: In situations where the series doesn't have an English name going with the Japanese one is the obvious (And only) solution.
Upvotes: 3 |
2012/12/11 | 426 | 1,636 | <issue_start>username_0: Having them in the English order at all times would make it unambiguous what's the first or surname, but it wouldn't honour originally Japanese names, in my opinion.
The solution might be similar to [my other question on anime / manga titles](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/q/35/20), with tag synonyms.<issue_comment>username_1: I think it depends on *which* name you use. Use the conventions of the culture that the name is from, but respect the intent of the original work.
So if an English name is used in a Japanese series, then use the English name, as the creators of the series intended for the name to be represented in that way.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: We should use the English ordering as the primary tag, and the Japanese ordering name as a synonym. See my answer [here](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/35/should-anime-manga-names-tags-be-in-english-international-title-or-romaniz/53#53), which covers my thoughts on anime/manga series tags, but also applies here.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: It's a bit of a hit-or-miss for me.
I only ever watch Anime in Japanese now, so hearing/reading the Eastern order is pretty natural to me. It throws me off every now and then to hear/read it in the Western order, but a context in which it makes sense are Anglicized characters, such as <NAME> from *Love Hina*, or Gene Starwind from *Outlaw Star*.
I feel that we should be willing to accept both forms, since not everyone knows/hears the Eastern order of names, and there are series in which the names are read in their localized order.
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/11 | 316 | 1,236 | <issue_start>username_0: Should be allowed questions like "Where AnimExpo will be?" or "How many people went to Comiket 83?" be allowed?
Some could be intereting, while lots others will not as being too localized, so should there be a policy regarding this?<issue_comment>username_1: I'd argue against.
It's out of the scope of Anime/Manga, even if it's related.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I'd hate to [parrot myself](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/27/what-do-we-do-with-questions-about-future-events-releases/43#43) about being a news outlet so fresh into a site, hahaha. But I would basically think that at this point, the question feels less about the subject matter and more about, well, us, the people and consumers of it. I'd consider it not really applicable for the main site Q&A before we even reach that point.
That said, organizing community meetups at these kind of events is not something foreign for using the meta site, or the chat service. Although, with the sheer number of conventions that are around for these kind of things, it might be a bit better to have a dedicated chat channel for local meetups, and reserve giant meetup threads for them real big ones.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer] |
2012/12/11 | 303 | 1,086 | <issue_start>username_0: Are "Identify this manga" or "Identify this anime" questions on topic for the site? I'm wondering if we could incorporate a similar policy as that on [SciFi.SE](https://scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/13/are-book-movie-tv-series-identification-questions-allowed).<issue_comment>username_1: Agreeing with @JNat, I think the SF policy is a very good one for a site which has a medium. You may catch a glimpse of an anime or manga somewhere and think it's good, and then try to find it again. Or you may want to reread that one manga you read at a bookstore when you were bored, but you don't remember the name, just the general theme / specific traits about the characters (this is the case for me, currently).
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: ***No***, they should definitely be off topic.
I wrote a rather huge essay on this topic on Gaming.SE. Rather than re-post it here, I will [just link to that one](https://gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/a/4118/1719). All of the points remain the same whether applied to games, anime, movies, etc.
Upvotes: 1 |
2012/12/11 | 499 | 1,923 | <issue_start>username_0: I asked a [question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/105/how-does-alchemy-work) about the universal law of a manga. Similar to 'our' universal law of gravity we have in 'our' own universe.
I was wondering whether I should use a tag to indicate that the question is about the rules of the universe of that manga?
And what tag that would that be?
* [rules](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/rules "show questions tagged 'rules'") seems a bit unclear
* [universe](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/universe "show questions tagged 'universe'") might relate to the universe itself instead of the 'universal' rules.
* [law](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/law "show questions tagged 'law'") might relate to laws, judges, and so on<issue_comment>username_1: I'd go with [scene](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/scene "show questions tagged 'scene'"), Scene describes the world of the artwork in question, so it seems best appropriate here.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: Just tag with the name of the manga or anime itself. Experts in that manga or anime will know about its rules inherently. No one is an expert in rules of completely disjoint things *in general*. That's impossible. People can only be experts on specific subjects. Tag with the subject that the expert would know about, and leave it at that.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: After some thoughts, I would stick with [univere-law](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/univere-law "show questions tagged 'univere-law'")
Although it is a bit long and not very 'pretty', it is clear at the first glance.
[univeral-law](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/univeral-law "show questions tagged 'univeral-law'") seems to 'prettier', but it might also indicate that the question is about 'inter-artwork' laws/rules...
Upvotes: -1 |
2012/12/12 | 1,668 | 6,674 | <issue_start>username_0: This was touched on in [another meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/18/anime-tag-is-not-allowed), but I think it deserves a more in-depth discussion. It's also something we should straightened out now, because the current usage of these tags are already getting a bit out of control.
As of now people just seem to be tossing the [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") and [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") tags onto a question based on whether they are reading the manga, or watching the anime. I don't see what purpose this serves, since the question will apply to both the manga and the anime, and the answers will often be the same. In the situations where they aren't users can indicate this in their answers, stating whether this answer applies to the anime or the manga (and, ideally, could answer for both). Having two separate, yet identical questions, one for the manga and another for the anime is just redundant (and messy).
There are some exceptions to the "small difference" of course, where the anime and manga are significantly different (The first Full Metal Alchemist (FMA) anime and Manga are a perfect example of this), but in these situations having a separate tag for the manga *and* the anime makes more sense (i.e. something like [full-metal-alchemist](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/full-metal-alchemist "show questions tagged 'full-metal-alchemist'") and [full-metal-alchemist-2003-anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/full-metal-alchemist-2003-anime "show questions tagged 'full-metal-alchemist-2003-anime'")). It's much easier for a user to only need to search one tag, rather than two, and it also allows users to ignore questions from one work and not the other. Continuing on my FMA example, if I've watched the anime but I haven't read the manga I'd want to be able to ignore all of the manga questions to avoid spoilers, but would still like to be able to see questions about the 2003 anime.
Furthermore, if they anime and manga are *that* different, then I'd consider them independent yet related bodies of work anyways, and thus both deserving of their own tag.
It also fails to be useful as a filter. Considering the entire site is about anime and manga, then every question is going to be relevant to either an anime or a manga. It would be akin to tagging questions with [programming](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/programming "show questions tagged 'programming'") on Stack Overflow. Performing a searching with just [programming](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/programming "show questions tagged 'programming'") isn't going to help, I'll always need to use another tag for it to be useful. The same applies to [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") and [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") with their currant usage.
With that said, when *should* we use the [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") and [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") tags?
My first thought would be to state that the [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") and [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") tags should only be used when it's specifically about topic of manga and/or anime, and not about a specific work. However, I feel like this needs to be fleshed out more through community discussion.
An example of the above usage would be [What is the difference between doujinshi and manga?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/36/what-is-the-difference-between-doujinshi-and-manga) This isn't about a specific work, but manga as a whole. In this question the tag clearly indicate what the question is about: manga terminology.
When should we use the anime and manga tags?<issue_comment>username_1: I've started to retag some questions and primarily removing anime and manga tags from some questions otherwise we'll have too many questions tagged with manga and anime.
When I know for a fact that the question is valid for both the manga and anime I'll remove the tag.
These tags should essentially be used when the question is specific enough and aimed to either the manga or anime of a series.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: I don't think you should have these tags at all.
As you've already seen, users will continue to use these tags in lieu of *good* tagging practices. They're too general, which is why we typically block them on the outset… to say "no, no... what is your question *really* about?"
I understand that [menga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/menga "show questions tagged 'menga'") and [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") were never designed to be general, catch-all tags… but that's how they are going to be used. Users are never going to understand that an [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") or [menga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/menga "show questions tagged 'menga'") tag is only for questions that are specific to the anime-version of a series that exists as both anime and manga. So **those tags will applied to a completely random assortment of questions without reason.**
If you have a question that is about an anime-specific version of the work, describe that in your question; not with tags. You don't need tags to narrow down your question to that degree. It's too confusing and misleading to the vast, vast majority of your users, and I can all-but-guarantee you it will become the most-overused and abused tags on the site.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: I agree that [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") and [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") tags are just too general. Why not instead have [anime-only](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-only "show questions tagged 'anime-only'") or [manga-specific](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-specific "show questions tagged 'manga-specific'") type tags. This removes the ambiguity of the general tags and makes their use very obvious.
Upvotes: 1 |
2012/12/12 | 1,171 | 4,728 | <issue_start>username_0: This question was posted here: [Why does <NAME> say ～ござる (~gozaru) at end of every sentence?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/121/why-do-himura-kenshin-from-rurouni-kenshin-say-gozaru-at-end-of-every-sen) The author notes that: "I know this question probably belongs more on Japanese.SE, but we need to decide if this type of question is on-topic"
I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. On the one hand, there are cases (perhaps not this one) where there is some subtlety in the statement that is related to the plot. In that case, Japanese.SE probably wouldn't notice this. On the other hand, just for general questions about Japanese, answers would be faster and more complete there simply because of more people who know Japanese.<issue_comment>username_1: Language use seems to fit better under [Japanese.SE](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/), so I'm inclined to say that they're off-topic. Questions about word puzzles that have some important element to the plot itself, less so.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: In a case such as this, where the use of a certain language quirk is a central part of a character's personality and/or their backstory, it should be on-topic here.
Look at Duo from <NAME>. He talks extremely informally (and in the english dub, has a californian surfer accent). I think a question regarding 'why does Duo talk the way he does' might be on-topic here, because it says something about his character.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_3: I would say that questions that are pure definition (ex. asking what the honorific "senpai" means) shouldn't be allowed because they fit better under Japanese.SE, but questions that are purely related to anime or to that anime specifically should be allowed. For example, "What does Kaworu mean in the 24th episode of Neon Genesis Evangelion with his ambiguous phrasing?" should be allowed.
This way, relevant information that can't necessarily be found by just going to something like Google Translate can be asked.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: What I propose is this: questions about Japanese itself (e.g. "Translate this") should be considered off-topic, but questions which are in some way connected to the plot (e.g. "What is character X implying by saying ") are fine so long as they can't be answered by merely a translation but also require some understanding of the plot. The above would be a borderline case, but I'd allow it because it's not asking what Kenshin means by ござる, but is asking why he says that. Assuming the author knows that ござる is essentially a more polite form, it would be a better question if the body had somewhere something to the effect of "I know that ござる is used to end sentences in a more polite manner, but is that also why Kenshin uses it at the end of his sentences?" which I would then say is a perfectly fine question.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_5: While they are off-topic, they shouldn't be "closed as off-topic" but migrated to the relevant site.
If that migration path is not available yet, it should be added.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_6: I was pointed to this thread via a comment to my question [What was text in final frame of Magi?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/40848/what-was-text-in-final-frame-of-magi) . I agree that there are questions about the Japanese language which would add nothing to discussions of anime and/or manga. In the linked question, though, it concerns text overlayed into the image meant to be read by the audience, but was not translated. (I.e. it wasn't one of a dozen random shop signs the characters happen to walk by.) How can a question about it possibly be off topic?
If the text had been a separate layer, and could have been copied as text and pasted into Google Translate, perhaps I could understand why people might think I am too lazy to "do my own research". (Well, assuming Google Translate had half a clue in translating Japanese to English, anyway.) Even if there were a tool that could use OCR (optical character recognition) to pull Japanese text out of an image and translate it, the OCR would simply add another layer of potential error.
I guess the main thing I don't understand is why some are so quick to close. The question had been asked and answered before the first close vote was cast. The close-voters spend extra time on something they think should go away, and it will quickly fade away in any case. I spend extra time explaining myself on something which is transparently obvious. You spend extra time reading this post, thinking "Damn, another SE user b\*tching. Why don't these guys just go away if they don't like it here?"
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2012/12/12 | 2,094 | 8,875 | <issue_start>username_0: Better read as: **Sticking to Canon Questions.**
Suppose that an anime has a manga correspondent to it too, and the anime has a fair amount of filler that builds up season after season. Some fans of the manga whom also watch the anime may not wish to be bothered with all of the filler, and wish to ask for which specific arcs/episodes cover only canonical events with respect to the manga.
A very simple example: Naruto. There's lots of filler, even with the second series in it. Someone that's a fan of the show, but doesn't want to get bogged down by the filler, may want to only watch the episodes that progress the storyline.
Should these sorts of questions be allowed, and if so, under what pretense?
I don't have an objection to allowing these sorts of questions, since it's something that comes up with most long running series. If we do start allowing them, however, we would need to define what kinds of principles we allow those questions under. I'm thinking that something like, 'Man this filler really sucks, what's the next arc' questions wouldn't be constructive (and I could be proven wrong!).
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**EDIT:** To add to the discussion, an idea being bounced around would involve well-defining canon to allow these questions to be answered. In my mind, the problem is "well-defining" the canon of a series, since some series are anime-only, incomplete in manga, or a mix of both. Perhaps limiting the scope of these questions to long-running series, with a well-established canon, would help in giving these questions more relevance and less subjectivity.
To the "maintainability" point - I feel that the Community Wiki functionality would be very ideal for this; it allows for flexible maintenance of the list of non-canonical episodes, and everyone can participate.<issue_comment>username_1: My biggest problem with this question isn't so much in the question itself, but in the wording. "Filler content" is a slightly ambiguous term. For instance, many manga have extra chapters that get animated but aren't related to the plot of the story. It's not clear whether or not these should count as filler.
I'd suggest that these sorts of questions are better phrased as comparisons between the anime and the source material, e.g. "Which Naruto episodes are not based on content from the manga?" As far as I know filler content is almost never added for anime-original series, so this doesn't seem terribly restrictive.
However, I do worry that the site could become overrun by these sorts of questions. As such, it seems better to limit this to long-running series with lots of filler content. The other thing that worries me about this is that for ongoing shows the answer will change every time more filler is produced. I don't really know how to deal with this, since the answer will need to be edited every time, which will result either in frequent bumps or the answer quickly becoming obsolete. I don't know of a good solution for this, since restricting to completed shows rules out most of the big ones like One Piece, Naruto, Detective Conan, etc.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I don't see filler content as ambiguous; Makoto gave a pretty good definition in the question.
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To make it a bit more formal, if we strictly define filler as "Things in are decidedly not canon, as created by the original author or production company.", then this is very objective and very answerable. See Ktash's comments for more details and examples this criterion. I do not see a reason to restrict questions of this type.
I do not see the site being overrun by questions like this, since a question of this nature could be asked *at most* once per series. Gaming.SE, for example, deals with questions of this nature all the time (that can exist once per game, but are largely the same each time just with the game title changed), and it hardly ruins the ratio of content on the site there.
It won't get asked about every anime, and the ones it does get asked for will get quality useful content. I think this is a huge bonus for the site, actually. One of the main things that's important for a StackExchange site is to have content that will draw users in. People will search Google all the time to figure out which episodes of their favorite anime to skip. If Anime.SE can answer that question, maybe they'll stick around and ask/answer other questions as well.
I think this is a popular question, not terribly difficult to answer, not terribly difficult to maintain (since filler tends to happen in arcs and not *usually* in one-off scenarios). Gaming.SE also has to deal with maintainability issues (Minecraft in particular gets updated *all the time*, outdating scores of answers), and an occasional bump as a new plot arc starts every few months isn't going to ruin the front page.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: My 2 cents is that such questions should not be allowed, for two reasons.
1. The answer is usually easily searchable. Most series have their dedicated wikis, where this information is available complete with color-coding. As a result, asking this question in itself, constitutes poor research and as per SE rule/etiquette, would be closed.
2. In many cases, episodes cannot be separated easily into "canon" and "filler". Several canon episodes have some amount of filler in between. It would be impossible to give a perfectly correct answer, because it would involve, "from 4:30 to 8:00 in episode 487, the main characters just fool around, which is not in the manga, and hence filler."
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_4: It pretty much comes down to whether it's good filler or bad filler. Good filler being filler that expands on the story without contradiction. Bad filler is filler that is either pointless or contradictory or simply exists to pad out an episode's length.
In a manga to manga example. The One Punch Man re-draw has new scenes added to existing material and new side stories that weren't in the original web-comic, however all the changes were ok'd/written by the original Author and simply enhance the series as a whole. That's good filler. (Some could even argue...to a point...that Bleach's filler was ok.....since they at least did try to reference those events by adding new scenes to existing later material and explain why everyone was weaker during the filler arc then the previous one, though they did sometimes come off as very out of place, and some fillers were just simple time-wasters)
Bad filler imo is filler like in several episodes of Dragon Ball, where things happen that are never referenced again nor do they change anything involving the plot. They're simply there to pad out run-time. Because they tend to be quickly thrown together they often can even introduce contradictions to the story.
The worst sort of filler however, is filler that is put in at the EXPENSE of canon material. A recent example being Tokyo Ghoul Season 1, which devoted nearly 3 episodes of runtime (out of 12) to exploring a character that died in the manga before the story even began and not only contradicted the source material in several places, a VERY important scene was removed to fit it in. TG's first season would've barely fit into 12 episodes where they planned to end it, but it could have been done properly with only minor trimming of events. Instead they sacrificed actual development of canonical characters to literally waste time building up a character for no reason (some would argue that it's to give more impact and feels, but since that character ALREADY had plenty of feels it won't make you feel anymore for them and was simply wasted time, and as a result important information on how ghouls' bodies work and fight were cut out completely, not to mention lots of scenes that showed character development for the important characters resulting in the occasionally pulling something out of their %^$ without explanation since those scenes were cut).
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I do feel it's an important question over all, as some filler really is a waste of time to watch/read, while some filler is worth watching/reading and it's good to be able to tell people that to clarify, since Filler as a blanket term is generally seen as a negative because most filler is bad filler. But some older mangas might use a newer anime to add filler to enhance their story/correct somethings they changed their minds about and be canon, but since most people consider things that contradict the source material to be filler, it receives a negative opinion unless the people are just really vocal about how much it improved the work.
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2012/12/12 | 806 | 3,336 | <issue_start>username_0: The main motivation here is [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/156/20) asking where to find a list of currently airing anime, including date and time. It can be seen as a polling question (well, really, it is) and might come a cross as subjective, as there may be multiple valid answers, of which you might choose one by preference, but I also think it has (an) objectively correct answer(s), which fulfills the criteria set forth in the question completely.
What should or policy be here? Close as off-topic / not constructive (polling)? Keep them if they have one or more definite answers, from which one might pick depending on ones preferences?
As a tangent, on SO, there may also be multiple solutions to a specific programming problem, and you pick one that fits best depending on your demands and / or preferences.<issue_comment>username_1: In the beginning, these type of [bike-shed questions](https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/31253/the-bike-shed-problem-and-so) may be very attractive to many new users joining the site. They are common questions that many people will be searching for and will ultimately bring them to the site.
However, in the long-run, as we have seen on [Stackoverflow](https://stackoverflow.com/), they tend to degenerate into the large-scale non-constructive polling questions - which are no longer allowed and ended in many of the existing ones in a historical lock.
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So I think it's a double-edged sword. In the short-run they may be useful (or even crucial) to bringing in a critical mass of users. But in the long-run they will probably harm the site.
If we wanted to get the best of both, we could allow them for now. But if and when the site reaches maturity, we may need to consider locking them down - just as what has happened on Stackoverflow.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I think we could do something like [this](https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/1482/what-are-your-favorite-english-language-tools) - create "resource posts" that become centralized, single-instance posts of given kind of lists.
Allow them for now - another week maybe. Gather the answers, vote them according to quality. Then close, protect, archive and refer people to the archived question in years to come. The validity of the answers mutates very slowly. It will be okay for a few years, when we may conditionally allow one with updates.
Of course much more narrow and specific questions about resources - ones that are bound to yield 2-3 answers max, should be still welcome. Something so broad - maybe one or three per site is enough to cover all needs.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Questions that ask for resources are dangerous, since you don't have a definite answer or a range of definite answers: you'll receive tons of answers that can be considered all equally "right".
The factor that makes you decide which one is the best is subjective. I might like a different resource rather than yours.
This is not my opinion, rather it's a long established SE policy, so there's not much we can really do.
In any case, I'm not totally against these questions, but I would advise to forbid them on the main site. Instead, let's move them to Meta and make a single resources question so we can use that for these things.
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2012/12/12 | 678 | 2,622 | <issue_start>username_0: Since just "ending" can have both meanings, we should differentiate questions about the actual anime ending (maybe tag with [plot](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/plot "show questions tagged 'plot'")?) and the ending song / theme / ED ([ending-song](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/ending-song "show questions tagged 'ending-song'")?).
What should the tags be?<issue_comment>username_1: I think it would be better to use a tag that represents both the intro and outro songs, maybe something along the lines of "theme song", then the OP can describe which one or both they are referring to.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: "ending-song" implies that the tag is about the *song*, but there is also video there, so that doesn't make absolute sense, thus I wouldn't vote for renaming it like that. Also I'd say that the most used meaning of "ending" would be the episode's ending (song, that is) rather than the anime's plot ending.
So, I'd suggest leaving the "opening" and "ending" tags for the episode's opening and ending (i.e. songs), and making either "plot-ending" or "story-ending" for the story (IMO "story-ending" sounds a bit better).
I think two synonyms should be created as well: "OP" for "opening" and "ED" for "ending".
Note that it may be also useful to have tags for the music only, maybe "soundtrack" or "original-soundtrack" ( with a synonim "OST" ) tag for the soundtrack-related questions. Or maybe it should be names as simple as "music".
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: You could use episode-opening and episode-ending to clear any ambiguity, though I see OP and ED used more often.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: For music related to an anime, wouldn't it be easier just to bundle then into one all-encompassing [music](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/music "show questions tagged 'music'")?
Although most questions will probably concern OPs and EDs, sometimes there may be questions concerning insert songs, like "Alchemy" in *Angel Beats* or "God Knows" in *Haruhi*.
We can then add [opening-theme](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/opening-theme "show questions tagged 'opening-theme'"), [ending-theme](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/ending-theme "show questions tagged 'ending-theme'"), [insert-song](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/insert-song "show questions tagged 'insert-song'"), and/or [character-theme](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/character-theme "show questions tagged 'character-theme'") tag synonyms.
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then the worst that will happen is me losing some time opening the question. Of course, if the spoilers are not properly formatted (even if they are minor) that may be pretty disappointing.
Having the "spoilers" tag will help to prevent such situations since people that don't want spoilers will not open the questions in the first place.<issue_comment>username_1: I see your reasoning but I think I'll vote against.
The fact is that tags are meant to classify the question's content (this is also why you don't apply tags based on answers), while the [spoiler](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/spoiler "show questions tagged 'spoiler'") tag would classify the question "type".
Also other sites made this decision, I suggest you look at this question: [Spoiler alert: [spoiler] dies](https://gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/q/3300/20633).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: No. [spoiler](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/spoiler "show questions tagged 'spoiler'") is a meta tag. It doesn't describe the content of the question, but the question itself. It didn't indicate what the question is about, it indicates what might be inside.
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2012/12/12 | 359 | 1,432 | <issue_start>username_0: I think we should include a faq on how to use the spoiler markup in the faq or somewhere more accessible for new users, as anime contains a lot of spoilers and many new users don't use the advanced help link when creating a question.
Just looking for a better way to inform users about the markup, otherwise this will be the main job for moderaters, implementing spoiler markup for questions by new users.
Suggestions?<issue_comment>username_1: I disagree with the other answer.
Unique features for unique sites is used on sites like [math.se] for ages.
There shouldn't be much of a problem implementing it if and when the site goes live.
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That's how it should be. Spoiler markup - which *hides information* - is by-design a *reader-hostile feature!* It should be used sparingly, and avoided whenever possible.
The last thing you want to do is encourage new users to start spoiler-marking every last detail of their posts on the off-chance that someone doesn't know them yet. This is supposed to be a community of experts and those seeking expert knowledge - don't [hide your light under a bushel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamp_under_a_bushel).
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2012/12/12 | 740 | 2,698 | <issue_start>username_0: We really need to agree on this one early on. What do we do with questions who by nature are spoilers? I mean, not part of the question, but the entire question.
For instance, asking about a character who's identity is only revealed later in the manga (but not the anime). Even the question's title itself may contain major spoilers in that case.
The source of the problem comes from the unique relationship between manga and anime. The manga would always be ahead of the anime, and there would always be people only viewing one of the two.
Therefore, questions on topics entirely revealed on the manga is likely to produce heavy spoilers for viewers of the anime.
How do we deal with those? The only way I can think of is implement a feature to mark an entire question as spoilerish.<issue_comment>username_1: I think a good rule of thumb is this:
* Make sure the title of the question is NOT inherently spoilery. (One of [the moderators](https://anime.stackexchange.com/users/4/aarthi) has [already](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/19/do-we-know-what-happens-to-spike-at-the-end-of-cowboy-bebop#comment48_19) [requested this](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/12/list-of-surviving-uchiha#comment47_12) on the site a couple of times.)
* Warn for spoilers in the first line or two of the post.
* Mark the main part of the question inside spoiler block quotes ( which is `> !` for those unaware)
* Try to include some non-spoilery background to make the question discoverable long term.
A good example is [Where is Stark Tower located?](https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/16517/where-is-stark-tower-located) on SciFi. There's some background to make the question discoverable, but the main part of the question (which is spoilery for *The Avengers* film) is hidden under spoiler tags.
**[EDIT]**: I edited [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/214/why-isnt-tobi-blind-yet) to demonstrate the above as well as I could.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I would say we should follows these do's and don't's.
* **DO** Avoid major spoilers in titles
* **DO** Warn for spoilers at the top of the post
* **DO NOT** Put your post in spoiler markup
* **DO NOT** Put answers in spoiler markup
* **DO NOT Tag the question with a meta [spoiler](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/spoiler "show questions tagged 'spoiler'") tag!**
* **DO NOT** Avoid spoilers in the title so much that the question content cannot be understood from the title
The idea is that once you've warned at the top of the post, any further reading is at the user's own risk. No further spoiler markup is needed.
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2012/12/12 | 773 | 3,031 | <issue_start>username_0: I think we need a tag for questions about differences between anime/manga versions and even TV series/movie versions. That way it's easy to sort all of these questions without attempting to search for them. And it would be easier to implement this now rather than once we have even more questions.
I don't really know what to call it though.
Edit: To clarify, I think there should be **one** tag for all types of version comparisons. I don't want a tag for each type of comparison. Please speak up if you disagree though.<issue_comment>username_1: As suggested, I think [variations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/variations "show questions tagged 'variations'")(temporary prototype tag) will be a good fit for comparison questions, it can be applied to compare manga, anime and movie differences or differences between a series.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: EDIT: **No**.
Having considered this a bit... I actually don't think we should have a tag for this.
* It serves no purpose. No one is going to follow it, or ignore it. It only makes sense as a subtag of a particular series, and it's long established on SE that such tags are a BAD thing
* It's either redundant with the title (bad), or replacing it (worse: "When Sai leaves. [hikaru-no-go](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/hikaru-no-go "show questions tagged 'hikaru-no-go'") [variations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/variations "show questions tagged 'variations'")").
* Fundamentally... it's a meta-tag seperating out a certain kind of QUESTION, rather than categorizing it by the OBJECT of the question. It seems like it separates around the object, but that would only be if we had tags like [hikaru-no-go-variations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/hikaru-no-go-variations "show questions tagged 'hikaru-no-go-variations'"), rather than this meta-tag bolted onto the side of the other tag.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: Sure, I'm thinking of something like [manga-anime-differences](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-anime-differences "show questions tagged 'manga-anime-differences'") or [manga-anime-variations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-anime-variations "show questions tagged 'manga-anime-variations'"). Go wild. I think it's a perfectly valid tag.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_4: I vote for [difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/difference "show questions tagged 'difference'") or rather, [differences](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/differences "show questions tagged 'differences'"), as usually the plural is used for tags. Well, not always, but when possible it's the preferred form.
I propose to burninate/eliminate/delete/replace the [variations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/variations "show questions tagged 'variations'") tag since it is too unclear. And go with the one i proposed above.
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2012/12/12 | 1,042 | 4,507 | <issue_start>username_0: I brought this up on JLU a while ago too. I have some potential questions that I could easily find on other sites just by Googling. For example, the chronological order of a bunch of series/movies in a franchise.
Should these questions not be asked since it's easy to find the answer? Or should we ask them anyway in order to boost what our SE has to offer?<issue_comment>username_1: I think we should allow them. Even if you can find the answer on another site, we want people to come here. By asking these questions here (and providing answers), we are potentially drawing more visitors to the site when they Google the same question which in turn leads to more views and possibly more members if they like the site so much.
These questions should be within reason, though. For example, simply asking "Who is the author of Bleach?" is not a very good question and should not be encouraged just because we allow questions that you can answer with some Googling.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Yes. If a question is good, on-topic question, which is worth asking, why not?
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If you know the answer to said question, you can even answer it yourself!
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: Yes.
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"Too Simple" is something which has been discussed on Stack Exchange before, and was implemented on other sites with a **General Reference** close reason. It was considered a failure though, since all it results in is users drawing arbitrary lines in the sand for when a question is "too simple", and what sites are considered general reference.
Furthermore, a tool already exists for questions which are too simple, it's called a **downvote.**
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As you can see, the case of a question which is too simple is covered by `does not show any research effort`. With this in mind, there's really no reason to close these questions as well, because down votes are already a sufficient way of dealing with them.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_4: If the question is really easy, please **no**. We shouldn't be aiming at *repeating* available information in the internet.
If you want to treat something that is simple but you think that the internet lacks proof or back up for that, then it's a different matter. But asking things like *"What's Naruto's last name?"* (a stupid example) is really... meh. :)
It's also true that not all information is easy the same way for everybody but let's aim up rather than down.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: I have two (possibly conflicting) pieces of advice.
If you can google for the title of your question and get a solid page of relevant results, I wouldn't advise that YOU ask that particular question.
On the other hand, I wouldn't close 'obvious' questions based on only that. Presumably the person asking the question doesn't find it obvious.
The problem with a 'general reference' close reason for this site is that we don't really have a 'general reference'. On SO, I understand closing as 'general reference' any question asking about parameters to a builtin PHP function... that's clearly documented on the php website. However, the closest equivalent we're going to have would be the producer/artist/authors websites, which are generally not or only partially translated into English.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_6: The answer is **no**. If it's something that **is easily found via a google search** then it really doesn't add a lot of value to this site. If you allowed such questions then the site would be nothing but self-answered questions quoting other sites.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_7: There's no stupid question, just stupid people asking question... joking.
In all seriousness, <NAME> said one and hundred times that newb questions are allowed and welcomed. Stack Exchange aims to be an authoritative library of information, which users comes and get their questions answered.
Now, don't expect us to upvote a question that lacks research.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_8: Adding onto earlier comments, I'd say **yes**, if only since it would be fairly difficult to draw a line to distinguish between "simple" questions and ones that aren't "simple". Moreover, the downvoting mechanism works to discourage questions like that anyway, particularly since one of the suggested reasons for downvoting is "shows little research effort".
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2012/12/12 | 1,646 | 6,947 | <issue_start>username_0: People might want to ask about anime / manga which are similar in style / story to the one they just watched or liked. Should they be closed as "not constructive", since they are by-nature were preference-based and you can't objectively say which anime is truly similar to which other one? There are also sites like [MyAnimeList](http://myanimelist.net) which provide recommendations of similar series on series' page.<issue_comment>username_1: **Absolutely not.**
I've been a longtime lurker on the Stack Exchange sites (notably, SciFi) and I can say that these types of questions are *always* not constructive.
The ~~Not Constructive~~ "off-topic" close reason has the following text appended to it:
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Questions that ask for anime recommendations are:
* **Not empirically answerable.** -- They don't have one, or even *finite*, correct answers.
* **They're flamewar bait.** -- People *will* get into comment-fights about which anime is better, which is the better recommendation, why someone's rec was wrong, etc. I don't want to see that kind of drama here.
* **They're usually polls.** -- A non-terminating list of answers that get votes by popularity? Classic poll. Plus, mainstream titles (Naruto, Bleach, One Piece) are going to get more attention than less mainstream / niche shoujo or seinen/josei titles (Sainkoku Monogatari).
* **They're an excuse for discussion.** -- Good recommendations will require extensive knowledge about the OP's tastes and likes/dislikes. This is better done in chat.
Basically: ***always close these questions as ~~Not Constructive~~ "off-topic"*** and hold these discussions in chat instead.
Upvotes: 5 <issue_comment>username_2: No, I do not think these should be allowed.
Over on [Arqade](https://gaming.stackexchange.com/), we allowed game recommendations for quite a while, but they were [ultimately disallowed](https://gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1491/what-should-be-done-with-questions-asking-for-game-recommendations) because of the inherent problems that make them unsuited for the SE engine.
Subjectivity Problems
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The subjectivity of criteria for recommendations is the first problem, which you mentioned, as that very easily skews answers to becoming Not Constructive. When someone asks for a recommendation based on their enjoyment level of an existing work, it is practically impossible to give a canonical answer because of enjoyment level being so subjective from person to person.
If someone really enjoyed *Serial Experiments Lain* and wants something similar based on X, Y, and Z subjective criteria, how are we to determine what an appropriate, canonical answer is? Even if you look at objective criteria (cyberpunkish aspects, scifi setting, etc.), the determination of a canonical answer is still difficult because the asker may not feel that certain characteristics of another series match up "enough" to their criteria.
**Can't we allow them if they're specific enough?**
Again, determining the criteria for "specific enough" is incredibly difficult. If one person asks for 5 specific characteristics and another only asks for 4, do we close the one with 4? How vague or specific should said criteria be? This creates confusion for both drive-by visitors and for the community as a whole.
Inaccurate Voting Problems
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This is a *huge* issue with recommendation-style questions. Specifically, inaccurate voting issues are when answers end up garnering upvotes based on popularity/enjoyment/other subjective criteria *instead of answer quality*. This is *bad*.
For example, when we still allowed these on Arqade, any game-rec question that had an answer with "Portal" in it garnered a large amount of upvotes simply because Portal was mentioned in the answer. These questions turned into impromptu polls that awarded reputation that was not based on *quality content*, which is ultimately what we want to reward.
List Maintenance
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While a bit minor in comparison to the above 2 problems, the issue of maintenance when allowing these questions does play into the problems they have. When asking for a series recommendation, any new entries that fit into the (subjective) criteria the asker wants would have to be updated. This creates a maintenance problem the community has to deal with, keeping possible answers up to date in order for the question/answers to remain relevant. Again, this can be a somewhat minor issue, but it can still be a problem, especially considering the propensity for these questions to be asked in high volume.
So what do we do?
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Using the associated chat room is a good solution for areas of interest to the anime/manga community that can't be dealt with/aren't appropriate for the site proper. While some suggest a separate recommendation room, based on experiments with a separate game recommendation room in the past, I would suggest directing people to the main anime/manga discussion room, as it will likely have the most activity. Making people go to a recommendation specific room may not be fruitful at all, as it depends on the number of people willing to hang out there and *only* talk about recommendations. We've found on Arqade that directing them to our main chat room has netted the best results.
In addition, once the site picks up in traffic, we may be offered an Anime blog sometime in the future, which is also a good place to list more permanent resources for subjects like this. You could even do a recommendation-a-week blog or something like that!
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_3: I think it should be allowed but make it a rule for them to vote on the quality of the answer/ question rather than the topic of them here is an example:
What anime should I watch that is close to Attack on Titan?
1. Death Note
Well, I find that Death Note is a lot like Atack on Titan.
It was a dark theme. Death Note is about a guy who finds a book, apon careful examination he finds out that if he puts a name in the book the person in question will die soon.
2. Sourgen (not a real anime I only watch SnK)
This anime is also like Attack on Titan not because its dark but of its because of the god-tier animation and arial fight scene quality. The story is not as good as Attack on Titans but it has more humor in it!
hope these helped.
random person21
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So it could easily be like that person being helpful and giving evidence and ect, if it workes well I see no reason why it can't follow the rules or they might change a little
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2012/12/12 | 657 | 2,617 | <issue_start>username_0: Currently, 7 questions are tagged as [plot](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/plot "show questions tagged 'plot'"), which is the 3rd most on the site (behind Naruto and Manga). I'm worried that it seems like a very large portion of questions could have something to do with the plot. I also can't imagine that the tag would be useful for very many people. Perhaps a few odd people who are trying to avoid any kind of spoilers would ignore it, but that seems about it from my perspective.
Does the tag [plot](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/plot "show questions tagged 'plot'") serve any useful purpose, or is it a meta tag? If it is useful, what criteria should be applied when judging whether or not to use it? Does the question need to be about a central plot element, or is asking about anything related to the plot good enough to use the tag (presumably this will eventually go in the tag wiki)?<issue_comment>username_1: In theory, most questions on here will be about plot. I think it will be noise we don't need. It also doesn't serve to describe what the question is about any better. So, while I don't think it is necessarily meta, I think it is unnecessary.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I'm thinking it could exist. It should, however, be used only in circumstances such as plot-holes. But for that, maybe it should be renamed... So, maybe there should not exist a [plot](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/plot "show questions tagged 'plot'") tag, but rather a [plot-hole](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/plot-hole "show questions tagged 'plot-hole'") tag. No?
**EDIT:**
On the other hand, if I had some question regarding the plot ('Why did X do Y?' or 'Was it relevant to the plot that X did Y?'), I guess the [plot](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/plot "show questions tagged 'plot'") tag could be useful. I think maybe, rather than deleting it, we should think about its wiki.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: Agree, let's use:
* [plot-explanation](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/plot-explanation "show questions tagged 'plot-explanation'") for questions about the plot. We can use the same tag wiki [Movies SE](https://movies.stackexchange.com/tags/plot-explanation/info) does.
* [plot-inconsistency](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/plot-inconsistency "show questions tagged 'plot-inconsistency'") for plot holes and the like. Same from [Movies SE](https://movies.stackexchange.com/tags/plot-inconsistency/info).
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/13 | 2,168 | 7,071 | <issue_start>username_0: [Original Question on Area51](https://area51.meta.stackexchange.com/q/8367/70919)
Background Info
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VOCALOID (ボクロイド) is an English and Japanese (and recently Spanish, Chinese and Korean) voice synthesizer. The anime-inspired characters come with a 'voice' included in the software, which allows them to sing diverse songs created by anyone, with no limits to the pitch or tone of the singer's voice. <NAME>iku (初音ミク CV01), the most well-known Vocaloid - hitting Japan by storm in earlier years - has even made her way to the Top 50 Music Charts in Japan. She has released over 100,000 songs in her short life with countless different producers. It has evolved so much, that 2-hour-long concerts have been showed in Japan, America and England, as well as several other countries with the character projected onto a screen or using holographic imagery. On [Nico Nico Douga](http://nicovideo.jp), a popular Japanese version of YouTube (if you will) artists have made MVs (music videos) and PVs (picture videos) as well as MMD (MikuMikuDance - another software developed because of VOCALOID) videos, which as an animation - usually dancing and singing. Also in YouTube, many people have watched the PVs and MMD videos, and over 18,000,000 views have been counted on the [live version of Hatsune Miku's World is Mine (ワールドイズマイン) song](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTXO7KGHtjI). On [Fanfiction.net](http://fanfiction.net), a dedicated category was opened for the use of writing about the VOCALOIDs and many have been written. Hatsune Miku, <NAME>/Len and <NAME> - from Crypton Future Media - will all be apart of the Vocaloid 3 collection using the latest YAMAHA software, and Hatsune Miku will also have an English voicebank. Luka, Rin and Len's V2 versions already have English compatibility. Other VOCALOIDs include:
**From the V1 series**
* Meiko (Japanese)
* Kaito (Japanese)
* Miriam (English)
* Leon (English)
* Lola (English)
**From the V2 series**
* Hatsune Miku CVO1 (初音ミク CV01) (Japanese)
* Kagamine Rin/Len CVO2 (鏡音リン・レン CV02) (Japanese)
* Megurine Luka CV03 (巡音ルカ CV03) (Japanese)
* Sweet Ann (English)
* Prima (English)
* Plus +18 more
**From the V3 series**
* SeeU (시유) (Korean)
* Oliver (English)
* IA (Japanese)
* Bruno (Spanish)
* Clara (Spanish)
* +13 more and more to come (including CV01, CV02 and CV03 Vocaloid3 releases)
Topic
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Because of the fact the characters are 'anime', they are Japanese (mostly), and MV with anime art in them that could be considered a movie with the subtitles/lyrics. Some series have 8+ songs in them with about 8 minutes length such as the 'Akuno(悪ノ)(Evil Of) Series'.
Would the new Anime and Manga site be open to questions related to this? For example:
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> Q1: VOCALOID: In Servant of Evil (悪ノ召使) by Kagam<NAME>, why is Rin holding a glass flask at the end of the PV?
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> Q2: VOCALOID: Are Kagamine Rin and Len officially twins?
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> Q3: VOCALOID: Who is Hatsune Miku's Voice actress?
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Cheers.
**Notes:**
Sources and more information can be found below:
Hatsune Miku's [Wikipedia page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatsune_Miku) and [Wiki Page](http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Hatsune_Miku), Vocaloid [1](http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Vocaloid), [2](http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Vocaloid2) and [3](http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Vocaloid3) Wiki pages, Hatsune Miku's Manufacturer's [website](http://www.crypton.co.jp/), Saki Fujita's [Wikipedia Page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saki_Fujita), [Vocaloid Wiki](http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Vocaloid_Wiki), Hatsune Miku's [Toyota Corolla Campaign](http://www.toyota.com/corollamiku/) and her official [YouTube channel](http://www.youtube.com/user/hatsunemiku)
The answer to Q1 is generally up to how you interoperate it - however the answer is because of the link to the next song 'Message in a Bottle'. The answer to Q2 is no. They are officially termed as 'mirror images'. The Answer Q3 is Saki Fujita. CV stands for 'Character Voice', V1, 2 and 3 mean Vocaloid1, 2, and 3.<issue_comment>username_1: Questions related to the use of the software fit very nicely on the [Audio-Video Production](https://video.stackexchange.com/) SE site.
Works produced with the help of the software are fit for this site if they are *anime* works - that is generally, animated videos produced in Japan or by a Japanese company or individuals. Border cases will exist, but those are to be determined by further "Is *this* anime?" questions on our meta. In such a case, there's no point in singling out that they are VOCALOID-related questions. The site deals primarily with the end products, not with the tools used to create them.
Non-anime works created using this software are off-topic here, though they may be on-topic for Movies and TV (when used in life-action or non-anime animated works), Arqade (when used for computer game voices), Science Fiction and Fantasy (for non-anime works from these genres using the voices) and similar content-related SE sites.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I think we have to ask the question: **Do these characters exist in any Anime or Manga?**, and answer accordingly based on that, referring to material outside of the anime/manga if it's needed to better answer the question.
An appropriate Western animation analogy would be [Izzy, the 1996 Atlanta Olympics mascot](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izzy_%28mascot%29) -- questions about Izzy or olympic mascots in general would be inappropriate, but questions about the one-shot animated special *Izzy's Quest for Olympic Gold* would be fair game, and questions about Izzy's design within the special could then use information about Izzy in general in order to answer the question.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: As username_1 suggested, I agree that questions about using the Vocaloid program do not belong here.
However, besides the fact that Vocaloids are part of otaku culture, they are also starting to see their share of manga[[1]](http://myanimelist.net/manga/26196/Aku_no_Meshitsukai)[[2]](http://myanimelist.net/manga/11128/Miku-4)[[3]](http://myanimelist.net/manga/3446/Maker_Hikoushiki_Hatsune_Mix) and soon even a full-length TV anime[[1]](http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=476733). These are just "official" examples, but I have no doubt that even more doujin examples exist. I believe Vocaloid works in themselves are simply another form of doujin works, and questions related to their plots, stories, characters, etc. should be allowed here.
Allowed:
* Why does time keep resetting in Kagerou Days?
* How are Hatsune Miku and Akita Neru related?
* Has it ever been officially stated which Kagamine twin is older?
Not allowed:
* How can I make the Vocaloid program make this kind of sound?
* Where can I download Vocaloid CDs for free? (for legal reasons)
* Which Vocaloid sings this song? (allowing these could open up the possibility of thousands of questions just asking the same thing for different songs; it is probably better suited for chat)
Upvotes: 3 |
2012/12/13 | 2,733 | 9,940 | <issue_start>username_0: Keeping with the little note about ["The Seven Essential Meta Questions of Every Beta"](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/07/the-7-essential-meta-questions-of-every-beta/), I thought I'd open the discussion about the graphical interface of our lovely anime/manga site!
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As our site approaches graduation, we were asked to help with ideas regarding the design of our site..
So, I suppose anyone with suggestions should post them on up! I'm sure the whole community would love to see all of your creations!
Ideas, art pieces, thoughts, or anything else would be welcomed :)
Keep in mind that while bits and pieces are alright, **we should grasp the big picture of how we want the site before we knitpick the details**.<issue_comment>username_1: ~~First of all, I think it's too early to discuss this. The site will only receive it's unique design when it finishes the beta. I think this should wait a couple of days, at least until the open beta starts so more users can vote/share their opinions.~~
As for what I would like it to look like, a drawn-style, something like there is on <http://programmers.stackexchange.com> is nice, it should be more anime-like style of drawing though.
Programmers.SE looks like the interface is drawn with a marker, that is not going to suit this site.
I also really like the design of area51. It's not even about the pictures or the interface layout, but rather about the fact that it's bursting with colors, and looks very good. For example, if you compare Area51 and Stackoverflow, you will see that SO looks plain and dull (that's my personal opinion). Since we are discussing anime here, not some serious stuff like physics, I think that the site should be bright and colorful (much like anime itself is).
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Not sure if this deserves a whole answer, but...
It would be cool if we could have an anime-style mascot. Kind of like Wikipedia's [Wikipe-tan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3aWikipe-tan) or the various [OS-tan characters](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-tan).
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_3: I came up with a rough idea of some random concepts I threw together. This is more or less just a mock-up montage. Obviously we can't use the images as they're copyrighted content, but they serve as an idea of what could be placed there instead.
Here are two early revisions with color balance testing.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/fGGQe.png)
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/XLJ4l.png)
Here is a third version with characters from *Uchouten Kazoku* in the banner, the lolis and buttons I showed in other answers, and the brush icon that @username_4 posted, and some color changes. Personally I vastly prefer this revision, because it adds some Japanese culture to the header and makes it a bit more audience-neutral.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/ZEKa2.png)
NB: Personally, I like these designs better with a light topbar ([clicky](https://i.stack.imgur.com/G98pM.png)), but I don't know if we have a say in that.
**Fonts**
* Anime Ace (banner and headers, used in manga scanlations)
* WeblySleek UI (body, just used for a simple look)
**Images**
* Manga panel behind the banner ([source](http://orojackson.com/threads/epic-manga-panels-spreads.1564/))
* Chibi (anime) characters walking across the banner ([source](http://demitasse-lover.deviantart.com/art/Chibi-Run-Commission-141089060))
* *Uchouten Kazoku* banned (screencapped from an episode; Photoshopped for ink outlines)
**Colors**
* I chose blues and greys as a lot of manga and anime sites do the same; MyAnimeList, CrunchyRoll, Daisuki, AnimeNewsNetwork, and others
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: Just tossing this one out there. Here is my proposal for how the badges should look. A final design could be decided on but shuriken are pretty prevalent in anime and could work well.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: I like what [RPG](https://rpg.stackexchange.com/) did with theirs. In particular -
* The guy on the left and the dragon on the right, is a combination of outline and filled
* There is a grid background
I think these design elements should be included on the front page since our site also discusses anime and manga production. Perhaps having the scene go from manga-ish from the right to anime-ish to the left.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_4: We're still putting bits and pieces together in chat. One suggestion was to use a artistic brush stroke for accepted answers. Here is a quick mockup of how this might look. Again, a final design can/will be decided upon, just fleshing out how the small stuff might look for now.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_6: I came up with a minimalistic banner, it doesn't differ from the current one too much, but I think that'll cause less disruption to the site than a brand new one. It also shouldn't offend anyone too much ^\_^
Font: [Manga Temple](http://www.dafont.com/manga-temple.font)
Image: [Spring Blossom (Public Domain)](http://openclipart.org/detail/24440/spring-blossom-by-kattekrab)
Manga Temple speaks for itself, it's a font that is similar to those that are used in Manga, and are recognisable to be so.
I chose the subtle Sakura/Spring Blossoms as they feature in lots of shows, and not just shoujo.
Alternatively, maybe something could be based off this if it's not prominent enough.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Lollipops for badges? Because you can never have enough lolis.
Perhaps a tad dark (especially on the silver), but a basic idea.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: A somewhat sketchy version of question and answer control buttons. (The checkmark is hollow and grey when not selected.)
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_7: In my opinion, the design of the site should be as neutral as possible with respect to genre and style. This isn't a suggestion, but rather a sort of meta-criterion that I think should be applied to any design for the site.
The reason for this is that the anime community is very broad in terms of interests. Even looking at the site we've already made, this is apparent. There are a number of users who are primarily interested in action series like [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'") and [bleach](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/bleach "show questions tagged 'bleach'"). There are also a lot of users with almost no interest in these shows, who instead watch romance, comedy, drama, etc. (I fall into this category). There are people who only read manga, and people who only watch anime, and everything in between.
I've seen sites before which put a bigger emphasis on one or another style or genre in their site design, and this strongly correlates with what sort of a community they have. The sites where one genre or style are emphasized in the design tend to not seem very inviting to people who are not fans of that. We've talked a lot in chat about what effect the questions which show up to new users have on who we're attracting and whether it creates an environment which doesn't seem inviting to them. Having the site design itself do that would be quite a bit more significant in terms of who we're bringing in. If we want to make a site which is really for the whole anime/manga community, that isn't a good idea.
That doesn't mean that I think we should have a totally bland design, like e.g. [MathOverflow](https://mathoverflow.net/), but that the design elements that do get modified are fairly unobtrusive and generic. For an example which I think would be problematic, the banner on [RPG](https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/30311/designing-puzzles-requiring-halt-undead-and-animate-dead) is really focused on action, which is fine for an RPG site but would not be for an anime site.
The most successful anime sites online in terms of broad appeal are probably [MyAnimeList](http://myanimelist.net/), [Hummingbird](http://hummingbird.me/anime), and [Anime News Network](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/), which have fairly bland looking designs with some images of particular series. We can't do exactly that, but the design should aim to be similarly reserved to those sites in my opinion.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_8: I had a design idea that I'm still trying to conceptualize. The idea is to treat the main and meta portions for the site each like on side of a two-sided anime storyboard or manga manuscript. The front site (main site) has a more finished product with colors, tones, filled in bubbles, etc, while the opposite side (meta) is much rougher with draft lines unfilled/not typesetted bubbles, and mostly in black and white.
The main idea is to treat the back and front side is if there it were a like window some what mirroring each other. Sort of like a light and dark world, but instead a colored and non-colored world. For an example if in the colored world we see a person's face, in the non colored world we see the back of their heads, like looking at two-sided of a coin from different angles or a perspective inside a room surrounded by two-way mirrors:
Or front and back covers:
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/13 | 1,027 | 4,229 | <issue_start>username_0: Some questions may require a clarification that the OP wants an answer related to only the manga, or only the anime. This can be useful in cases when manga and anime plots are slightly (or not slightly) different.
Right now, I see three ways to do it:
* Add [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") or [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") to the question's tags.
* Explicitly point it out in the question title, something like:
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> What happened to X in the end of < some title > manga (not the anime)
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> Please note that I want the answers to be made on manga only, not the anime, since the plots of them differ.
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What should be considered the best way to do it?<issue_comment>username_1: I guess the tags are the way to go, but also some specification in the question or title itself (or both) is no problem and not redundant. Basically, I'd use the three of them.
I'd say your question is self-answered.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: The tag itself should suffice. You can write "...in the anime..." casually, without writing "(Not in the anime)" for example.
There is not a hard rule, I guess, but I prefer the casual way (you understand it without highlighting it multiple times).
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: I've discussed this to some degree [here](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/66/when-should-we-use-the-anime-and-manga-tags), but the main point to take away is that we should **not** use the [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'") and [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") tags to denote a question about a specific adaptation.
With that said, there are two situations that need to be considered. The first is when the manga and anime only differ slightly, such as the Bleach and Naruto animes. Although they add in additional spoilers, and sometimes remove things, they follow the same overarching plot as the manga. The second situation is when the manga and anime are significantly different, such as the the Full Metal Alchemist manga and the 2003 anime. Although they are both based in the same world, and share many of the same themes and characters, the plot is completely different. They are essentially two different, if not somewhat related, works.
For the second situation, where the anime and manga differ significantly then they should both have separate tags. The only connection these works share is being part of the same series. Having separate tags for these works will make it easier for users to find answers to their questions. After all, if I'm asking a question about the 2003 FMA anime, then I'm really not that interested in questions about the Manga or Brotherhood since the series are *drastically* different. It would be a lot easier if I can just filter my search results to only include questions about the 2003 FMA anime. We want to make things easier for the user, not more difficult.
In the situation that the manga and anime are similiar, then I think stating which adaptation you're talking about in the answer is enough. For the most part the answers will be the same, with the most notable exception being fillers. Having two separate questions, one for the anime and another for the manga seems fairly pointless. All it will do is make it harder for users to find answers to their questions. Remember, we want to make things easier for users, not more difficult.
Something else to consider is that a question belongs to the community as whole, not just the asker. Just because the OP wants an answer only relevant to the manga doesn't mean that's the only answers we allowed. The OP would accept the answer that best answers for the work he's interested in, and users would just vote on the other questions accordingly. That way anyone with the same question, bot interested in an answer based on the other adaptation, can find their answer in the same place.
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/13 | 1,144 | 4,338 | <issue_start>username_0: There are many questions which can't be answered easily, because there's just no known answer (mostly regarding story, abilities or something like that). Some examples:
[Is it possible to combine all five chakra elements?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/304/is-it-possible-to-combine-all-five-chakra-elements)
[How did the Hashirama and Madara statues at the Valley of the End come to be?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/300/how-did-hashiramas-and-madaras-statues-at-the-valley-of-the-end-came-to-be)
[What is the significance of Ran's birthday?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/13/what-is-the-significance-of-rans-birthday)
I think that these questions just can't be *answered*, they just provoke a discussion, because the true answer isn't known.
I think we should state in the FAQ, that such questions aren't allowed, because normally, this doesn't fit to the Q&A-Format of SE.<issue_comment>username_1: No. Stack Exchange is a Q&A site, not a forum.
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**Not Constructive**
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> As it currently stands, this question is not a good fit for our Q&A format. We expect answers to be supported by facts, references, or specific expertise, but this question will likely solicit debate, arguments, polling, or extended discussion. If you feel that this question can be improved and possibly reopened, see the FAQ for guidance.
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Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_2: >
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Try hard to differentiate here between:
1. **Questions that *cannot* be answered** (because, for instance, they're asking folks to predict the future or are based on an under-specified and/or completely hypothetical scenario). These should generally just be shut down - discussing them produces nothing but speculation.
2. **Questions where the answer is obscure** or difficult to obtain (relies on knowledge in an author's private journal, protected by a non-disclosure agreement, guarded by a dragon). These *can* be ok, if folks are disciplined about not answering when they don't have access to information. If they degenerate into idle speculation, they should be shut down as with #1.
3. **Questions where the answer is irrelevant** and the asker simply wants to get to know other members of the site better by getting folks to post their feelings (this is often the *actual* case for instances of #1 and #2, but some questions are *explicitly* asked for this reason). These should generally be shut down - they are discussion for the sake of discussion, and there are [other venues more appropriate for this](http://chat.stackexchange.com/).
The fact is, this is a Q&A website - which means [for every **Q**uestion, there must be an **A**nswer](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2011/01/real-questions-have-answers/). Folks visiting a year from now aren't going to care about some impromptu fan-fiction you and someone else put together in lieu of an actual answer - if they're searching for a question here to satisfy their curiousity or settle an argument, they're gonna want something substantial, and if we can't offer that we're just wasting their time.
[The FAQ](https://anime.stackexchange.com/faq#dontask) states this pretty clearly:
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> If your motivation for asking the question is “I would like to participate in a discussion about \_\_\_\_\_\_”, then you should not be asking here. However, if your motivation is “I would like others to explain \_\_\_\_\_\_ to me”, then you are probably OK. (Discussions are of course welcome in our [real time web chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/).)
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> * your answer is provided along with the question, and you expect more answers: “I use \_\_\_\_\_\_ for \_\_\_\_\_\_, what do you use?”
> * there is no actual problem to be solved: “I’m curious if other people feel like I do.”
> * we are being asked an open-ended, hypothetical question: “What if \_\_\_\_\_\_ happened?”
> * it is a rant disguised as a question: “\_\_\_\_\_\_ sucks, am I right?”
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2012/12/13 | 2,400 | 9,996 | <issue_start>username_0: A question I just stumbled upon, [Why is the ending of Death Note in the anime so different from the manga?](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/356/why-are-there-ending-of-the-series-death-note-so-different-in-manga-and-anime), is an example of the generic question type: "Why did they change X?" or "Why did they write it that way?". The only person that can answer these questions are the writers, resulting in any such question being *unanswerable* if there isn't an answer posted somewhere on the internet. As is outlined in the FAQ of every Stack Exchange site, `You should only ask practical, answerable questions based on actual problems that you face`. Since the vast majority of these questions won't be answerable, they should all be closed. After all, any answer not based on an official statement from the author would be 100% speculation.
I'm sure someone will raise the objection that since *some* of these questions have answers somewhere on the internet that those ones should be opened. However, since there is no way of knowing if such an answer exists until someone posts it, then that means we can't know if an answer is answerable when the question is posted. If we can't know a question is answerable, then it's unanswerable.
For the sake of argument, let's assume we *did* allow these questions when an answer from the author exists. Since we still can't know if the question is answerable when it's posted, it means we would either need to:
* Assume an answer exists until the question goes unanswered for a certain amount of time.
* Assume an answer doesn't exist until someone finds it.
Neither of these situations is acceptable. Assuming an answer exists for a set amount of time will result is likely to have the question be forgotten about, and never closed (clogging up the site with questions which should have been closed and deleted). In addition, any time we chose would be completely arbitrary. Do we wait an hour? A day? A week? If we need to start making arbitrary rules up to allow a question that's a clear indication the question should not be allowed.
Assuming an answer doesn't exist means we'd need to close the question, and then leave it on the site in a closed state *indefinitely*, until someone posts a comment saying they found an answer. Frankly, this is a completely ridiculous course of action to take. Having a bunch of closed questions floating around is just as bad as having a bunch of opened questions which should be closed.
Furthermore, closing is meant to be a *temporary* state, where all questions will either be deleted or re-opened (in the latter because the author fixed them). Closing isn't intended to be used on a question we never have any intention of re-opening unless a specific event eventually happens. After all, if we're just going to keep the question around *forever*, what's the point of even closing it in the first place?
In conclusion, "Why did they write it that way?" questions should be deemed off-topic since they are not answerable.<issue_comment>username_1: I mostly agree, but it's a bit of a slippery slope to say that all questions should be off-topic unless they definitely have an answer. If we want to restrict ourselves only to those questions which are definitely answerable without speculation, we'd miss a lot of potentially good questions. For instance, many questions about a potential plot hole falls into this category. Consider [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/1/the-one-piece-treasure-is-at-the-end-of-the-grand-line-but-isnt-that-the-s), and imagine if Oda-sensei had never thought about it, and there was no good reason why the Straw hats couldn't just go the other way. Then this would be an unanswerable question by your definition, but still not a bad one I'd argue.
Quoting from Shog9's answer on [Should we explicitly allow discussions?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/145/should-we-explicitly-allow-discussions),
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> **Questions where the answer is obscure or difficult to obtain** (relies on knowledge in an author's private journal, protected by a non-disclosure agreement, guarded by a dragon). These can be ok, if folks are disciplined about not answering when they don't have access to information. If they degenerate into idle speculation, they should be shut down as with #1.
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I do think that these questions are usually not great questions, but they are not always off-topic IMO. What we should definitely not do is allow speculation in the answers. If an answer seems to be entirely speculative, then you should downvote it and leave a comment.
We do need to draw the line somewhere, or else we're inviting a potentially unlimited number of questions like this. "Why did they write it this way?" will almost always be unanswerable, so I think it's a reasonable place to draw the line, but we may need to come back in the future to rethink this.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Yes, they should be either off-topic or not-constructive, that's mostly based on the wording of the question.
The answer is unanswerable by any means. It's very rare that this sort of information is voluntarily released by the mangaka or the production team.
So I believe we should generally and inclusively disallow them. Of course, there would be cases where the answer *is* answerable. But the line must be drawn.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: And what if the correct and satisfactory answer appears within first hour or two, before even the question reaches enough votes for closing? Still delete?
You make an awful lot of assumptions about the answer being unavailable. Following your logic, all questions ever should be closed because if you don't know the answer, you can't be sure it exists.
Of course speculative answers should be downvoted, but... what about a normally commonly acceptable question that doesn't get a satisfactory answer? I'm active on quite a few .se sites and you'll hardly ever see my accept rate on any to be 100% - sometimes I ask difficult questions and don't get valid answers at all. Not because they don't exist but because nobody who saw my question knows them. Does that make my questions wrong? Should I know a'priori before asking if the answer is available?
**Making up a rule that depends on the asker knowing a whole lot about the answer is pointless**: you ask questions to which you don't know answers.
**Making a rule that forbids a question because the answer *might* be impossible to attain is throwing out the baby with the bath water.** A whole bunch of good questions will be forbidden on basis that they might be unanswerable.
If you really feel so sick about leaving some questions unanswered, delete them a month after they received their last unsatisfactory answer. But personally, I'd leave them - just for people seeking the answer to be able to find out:
**The Answer Does Not Exist Or Is Uobtainable.**
This *is* a satisfactory answer if it's true. There is no point to consider the question invalid simply because that is the answer.
**EDIT**
Just to make it clear, repeating my comment here: **Yes, authoritative answers to these questions can only be obtained from creators. BUT WHY DIRECTLY?!** They are the very daily bread for these creators, appearing regularly in their blogs (frequently buried 20 pages in, of an obscure site), in panels from conferences (often recorded as Youtube videos) or in articles posted on niche magazines many issues back. Oh, and more frequently than not they are posted in Japanese.
That means they are very frequently available, obtainable, possible to locate - but not by a single person. You can't google a sentence uttered in the middle of a hourly panel in youtube video. You can't google contents of paper magazine you don't even own. You won't pick out the author's post on his own site from a thousand similar posts filled with speculations if you don't even know what is his site.
But then, if you post such a question, it will immediately ring a bell with a fan who saw/read the author's answer in the past. They have the blog bookmarked and limiting Google search to that single site they can find it in a minute. Typing conference name and the author name will bring up the video of the panel in Youtube search immediately. Finding the article in the pile of magazines under the bed will take a while but then the answer is there and can be retyped together with the issue number and page for reference.
In other words, **LOCATING these answers is possible primarily through community effort.**
Do you think forbidding this kind of answers is right, just because there is a chance that the author never did answer this question in the past?
Excuse me, let us close all General Relativity questions on Physics.se because <NAME> isn't willing to answer them in person. The fact these answers are contained within his journal? But *gasp!* what if they are not?!
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: What you've cited is a question that is perfectly, but difficulty, answerable: if an interview or a document with/by the author of the manga or the director of the anime is available.
Here an [example about Mohiro Kitoh's Bokurano](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-06-14/bokurano-helmer-changes-story-due-to-dislike-of-manga):
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> In closing, I have to post what I don't want to post: the director of the animated version of Bokurano dislikes the original manga.
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Q: Why Bokurano anime end differently from the manga?
A: Because the director of the anime dislikes the manga (quote)
The answerers have to search sources by original authors before starting speculations, looking for evidences about the creation process of that precise work.
Actually, answering this question correctly requires a high level of expertise and a deep knowledge of the work by a author, so with some fix it's a very attractive question for SE.
Upvotes: 1 |
2012/12/13 | 1,947 | 7,896 | <issue_start>username_0: In MetaJLU, there is a [list of resources for learning Japanese](https://japanese.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/756/resources-for-learning-japanese).
I thought this could be a good reference for something we might do here: create a list of works of reference that may introduce new users into the manga/anime world. This could go from technical works (that provide technical and theoretical details of manga/anime, as well as history of these media) to more informal works that would provide general views into Japanese/otaku culture ([Peter Carey](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Carey_%28novelist%29)'s [Wrong About Japan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrong_about_Japan) comes to mind). It could also, if this kind of questions were to be considered on-topic, contain works that are concerned with the making of anime/manga.
This is just a general idea, but I think it could turn out to be a good thing. Leave your thoughts.<issue_comment>username_1: I mostly agree, but it's a bit of a slippery slope to say that all questions should be off-topic unless they definitely have an answer. If we want to restrict ourselves only to those questions which are definitely answerable without speculation, we'd miss a lot of potentially good questions. For instance, many questions about a potential plot hole falls into this category. Consider [this question](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/1/the-one-piece-treasure-is-at-the-end-of-the-grand-line-but-isnt-that-the-s), and imagine if Oda-sensei had never thought about it, and there was no good reason why the Straw hats couldn't just go the other way. Then this would be an unanswerable question by your definition, but still not a bad one I'd argue.
Quoting from Shog9's answer on [Should we explicitly allow discussions?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/145/should-we-explicitly-allow-discussions),
>
> **Questions where the answer is obscure or difficult to obtain** (relies on knowledge in an author's private journal, protected by a non-disclosure agreement, guarded by a dragon). These can be ok, if folks are disciplined about not answering when they don't have access to information. If they degenerate into idle speculation, they should be shut down as with #1.
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I do think that these questions are usually not great questions, but they are not always off-topic IMO. What we should definitely not do is allow speculation in the answers. If an answer seems to be entirely speculative, then you should downvote it and leave a comment.
We do need to draw the line somewhere, or else we're inviting a potentially unlimited number of questions like this. "Why did they write it this way?" will almost always be unanswerable, so I think it's a reasonable place to draw the line, but we may need to come back in the future to rethink this.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Yes, they should be either off-topic or not-constructive, that's mostly based on the wording of the question.
The answer is unanswerable by any means. It's very rare that this sort of information is voluntarily released by the mangaka or the production team.
So I believe we should generally and inclusively disallow them. Of course, there would be cases where the answer *is* answerable. But the line must be drawn.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: And what if the correct and satisfactory answer appears within first hour or two, before even the question reaches enough votes for closing? Still delete?
You make an awful lot of assumptions about the answer being unavailable. Following your logic, all questions ever should be closed because if you don't know the answer, you can't be sure it exists.
Of course speculative answers should be downvoted, but... what about a normally commonly acceptable question that doesn't get a satisfactory answer? I'm active on quite a few .se sites and you'll hardly ever see my accept rate on any to be 100% - sometimes I ask difficult questions and don't get valid answers at all. Not because they don't exist but because nobody who saw my question knows them. Does that make my questions wrong? Should I know a'priori before asking if the answer is available?
**Making up a rule that depends on the asker knowing a whole lot about the answer is pointless**: you ask questions to which you don't know answers.
**Making a rule that forbids a question because the answer *might* be impossible to attain is throwing out the baby with the bath water.** A whole bunch of good questions will be forbidden on basis that they might be unanswerable.
If you really feel so sick about leaving some questions unanswered, delete them a month after they received their last unsatisfactory answer. But personally, I'd leave them - just for people seeking the answer to be able to find out:
**The Answer Does Not Exist Or Is Uobtainable.**
This *is* a satisfactory answer if it's true. There is no point to consider the question invalid simply because that is the answer.
**EDIT**
Just to make it clear, repeating my comment here: **Yes, authoritative answers to these questions can only be obtained from creators. BUT WHY DIRECTLY?!** They are the very daily bread for these creators, appearing regularly in their blogs (frequently buried 20 pages in, of an obscure site), in panels from conferences (often recorded as Youtube videos) or in articles posted on niche magazines many issues back. Oh, and more frequently than not they are posted in Japanese.
That means they are very frequently available, obtainable, possible to locate - but not by a single person. You can't google a sentence uttered in the middle of a hourly panel in youtube video. You can't google contents of paper magazine you don't even own. You won't pick out the author's post on his own site from a thousand similar posts filled with speculations if you don't even know what is his site.
But then, if you post such a question, it will immediately ring a bell with a fan who saw/read the author's answer in the past. They have the blog bookmarked and limiting Google search to that single site they can find it in a minute. Typing conference name and the author name will bring up the video of the panel in Youtube search immediately. Finding the article in the pile of magazines under the bed will take a while but then the answer is there and can be retyped together with the issue number and page for reference.
In other words, **LOCATING these answers is possible primarily through community effort.**
Do you think forbidding this kind of answers is right, just because there is a chance that the author never did answer this question in the past?
Excuse me, let us close all General Relativity questions on Physics.se because <NAME> isn't willing to answer them in person. The fact these answers are contained within his journal? But *gasp!* what if they are not?!
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: What you've cited is a question that is perfectly, but difficulty, answerable: if an interview or a document with/by the author of the manga or the director of the anime is available.
Here an [example about <NAME>'s Bokurano](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-06-14/bokurano-helmer-changes-story-due-to-dislike-of-manga):
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> In closing, I have to post what I don't want to post: the director of the animated version of Bokurano dislikes the original manga.
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Q: Why Bokurano anime end differently from the manga?
A: Because the director of the anime dislikes the manga (quote)
The answerers have to search sources by original authors before starting speculations, looking for evidences about the creation process of that precise work.
Actually, answering this question correctly requires a high level of expertise and a deep knowledge of the work by a author, so with some fix it's a very attractive question for SE.
Upvotes: 1 |
2012/12/14 | 1,621 | 5,926 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but how do we define anime here in anime.SE? Is it the distinctive art style? Being an animated production originating from Japan? A bit of both?
For instance:
* *Avatar: The Last Air Bender* has an anime-inspired art style. Is it anime?
* *Batman: The Animated Series* has had its animation done in Japanese studios. Is it anime?<issue_comment>username_1: The main site has this question about [the differences between anime and cartoons](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/69/what-differentiates-anime-from-regular-cartoons).
The answers are no definitions, but they surely show examples what anime is and what not.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: For the purposes of this question (and hence the FAQ), I propose that that we take "anime" to mean any animated series in which the either the primary animation studio is based in Japan and/or the show was originally broadcasted in Japanese. I don't think we should allow either of the two given examples unless we are going to go all the way and include all animated series. Under this proposal, First Squad (for example) would be allowed, but There She Is!! would not be.
This isn't perfect, of course. Paradoxically, the MADHOUSE Peanuts short would be allowed, while the original series would not be, and the 2011 ThunderCats television show is probably allowed while the original is not. But no matter what rule we choose, there are going to be exceptional cases, and we can deal with them as they arise.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: From **[Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime)**:
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> Anime (Japanese: アニメ?, [a.ni.me] ( listen); i/ˈænɨmeɪ/ or /ˈɑːnɨmeɪ/)
> **are Japanese cartoons and computer animation.**[1](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime) The word is the
> abbreviated pronunciation of "animation" in Japanese. In English, the
> term is defined as a style of animation originating in Japan, which
> often features colorful graphics, vibrant characters and action-filled
> plots with fantastic or futuristic themes.[2] The intended meaning of
> the term sometimes varies depending on the context.[3]
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From those two definitions I'd conclude an anime is:
* An animated work.
* One that is of Japanese style
* One that is made in Japan.
By that definition, none of your examples fit the bill (Avatar wasn't made in Japan, while Batman doesn't have the Japanese style).
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: Instead of trying to recreate a set of rules defining what an anime is, we have to identify at least two reliable sources to consult where the "it is not an anime" exception is moved.
The first two I can think of are:
* Anime News Network encyclopedia
* Wikipedia
Anime News Network apply these rules in the [What is anime section](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/faq#what_is_anime) of their FAQ:
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> anime is animation that is primarily produced and conceived in Japan. This includes animation conceived in Japan that has portions outsourced to other countries, but does not include animation primarily produced outside Japan and with the animation outsourced to Japan. It does however include animation that is co-conceived inside and outside of Japan and at least partially produced inside Japan.
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ANN editors [identify two technical definitions of anime](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/lexicon.php?id=45), 1) by origin and 2) by style. They agree to "by origin" definition.
Wikipedia excerpts are cited [in a previous answer](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/a/168/98) I don't repeat here. The article is useful while defining the controversy about origin vs. style issue, but the very methods used in Wikipedia to identify what an anime is for Wikipedia are written in the [Anime and manga WikiProject](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga#What_topics_we_do_not_cover) page (the Wikipedia equivalent of Meta SE), where they clarify:
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> Although its scope is broad, this project maintains an essential focus on anime, manga and related merchandise originally meant for consumption in Japan. This does not include works with incidental or minor association. Animated or printed works produced for consumption outside of Japan that nevertheless draw on or are similar to Japanese media in terms of content or form (such as Chinese animation, Korean animation, manhwa, manhua and Western manga-styled comics such as Gothic Sports and Peach Fuzz) do not fall under our scope.
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Both Wikipedia and Anime News Network apply the "per origin" definition. First answers on Anime SE about this topic highlights a good consensus about this definition too. But to avoid controversy we have to rely to external, reliable sources like these when this exception is moved about a particular title.
Applying this rule to *Batman: The Animated Series*:
* [On Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Animated_Series): not an anime
* [On ANN](http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=7970) (non-anime roles): not an anime
Batman TAS is not an anime.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_5: Most anime sites include stuff produced by Korean and Chinese animators for their markets such as [Aachi & Ssipak](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aachi_&_Ssipak). The number of titles we are talking about is small and I think that a loose definition is well warranted. FWIW, many Japanese anime outsource animation to Korea.
Western shows with anime connections will need to be tackled on a case by case basis. I would consider Batman: Gotham Knight and The Animatrix to be on topic. But I would consider Avatar, Batman: TAS, or The Simpsons for that matter to be off-topic.
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2012/12/14 | 798 | 3,163 | <issue_start>username_0: I've been asking in beta about anime crossovers 'cause I'm really interested about it. But they always vote for my question to be closed. Is topic about anime crossovers too off-topic to ask here? Just making sure so that my effort of asking won't be forsaken. Thanks a lot.<issue_comment>username_1: Your question is, and is not a list question at the same time.
On one hand, it indeed needs a short answer containing only the anime name. However, there is one problem: we can't know everything.
What does that mean in your context? That means that the question will become a list question eventually. Some person might think "Hey ok, Anime AAA was the first one, since it was released in 1990", and post it as an answer. Then another person comes and thinks "Hey, but there was also Anime BBB which appeared a year earlier!", and posts *this* as his own answer. Then another person comes... and so on and so forth. So eventually it will be a list-competition question with people trying to remember earlier and earlier examples of crossovers.
Probably if you rephrase the question to somehow avoid such a situation, it will be gladly reopened.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Pulling the comments into here:
When I first read the title:
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It immediately struck me as being the typical non-constructive question. Why? Because it sounds like it is asking for a list.
At the very core, the question is fairly legit. There can only be *one* Anime that had the *first* crossover. So it has an objective answer to it. I won't go into whether or not that answer is obtainable as username_1's answer covers that quite well.
However, the trick to these borderline questions is that they need to be phrased correctly.
Depending on a how a question is phrased, it can lead to different types of answers. Phrasing it incorrectly could send the question into a downward spiral towards non-constructive land.
As your current title stands, the plural on "anime(s)" could possibly bait many answers from different people who have opinions on what is "among the first". But phrasing it as:
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would tip it back towards that constructive direction. To make the question more constructive, you can request that all answers have authoritative evidence that they are the first. ([Skeptics](https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/) has a policy of requiring references to avoid this speculation trap.)
But as username_1 mentions, it may be difficult in this case. But that's a separate issue.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: It's not really a list question. To me it's hard but reasonably narrow. A list question is "How many anime have a prick as a main character?" (lol just an example).
When answers start to go over 10, then you must worry.
In any case, it depends. As a moderator I've left open questions that could have been Not constructive but that only received one answer. So my opinion is: keep an eye on such questions, if too many answers start to come in, then vote to close.
Upvotes: 2 |
2012/12/14 | 746 | 2,727 | <issue_start>username_0: This is going to be a very short question. Sooner or later people will start creating tags of popular characters, e.g., [kurosaki-ichigo](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/kurosaki-ichigo "show questions tagged 'kurosaki-ichigo'").
What should be our policy regarding them? AFAIK they are not usually allowed on SCIFI.SE, but they also have exceptions such as [c3po](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/c3po "show questions tagged 'c3po'"), or [spock](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/spock "show questions tagged 'spock'").
Should we generally allow or forbid using such tags?<issue_comment>username_1: I think that usually they don't have really a reason to exist, unless
* It's a very prominent character, that stands out;
* There are many questions about this specific character.
For example, on SciFi, there is a [voldemort](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/voldemort "show questions tagged 'voldemort'") tag. It **is** a prominent character (the main antagonist and what an antagonist!) and there are **80 questions** with this tag. That makes it a good tag. There will definitely be people searching for this tag.
One single tag about [character-from-anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/character-from-anime "show questions tagged 'character-from-anime'") would probably be too little. Is it really an interesting character, widely appreciated? If the question is no, it probably doesn't deserve a tag.
In any case, we don't need to take all the decisions now. I think it's best if we decide as we go on, keeping the tags we realize work and cutting those that we see have no reason to exist. But what I said will give us some parameters to decide and to anticipate what tags might work and which ones wouldn't.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I'd argue we should collectively disallow them. Even if the intention is good, things will get out of hand real quick.
Imagine the following:
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> ### "What is the relationship between Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura?"
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> [naruto](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto "show questions tagged 'naruto'")[naruto-uzumaki](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/naruto-uzumaki "show questions tagged 'naruto-uzumaki'")[sasuke-uchiha](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/sasuke-uchiha "show questions tagged 'sasuke-uchiha'")[sakura-haruno](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/sakura-haruno "show questions tagged 'sakura-haruno'")
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Even if you do limit to "only notable characters" or "only protagonists/antagonists", the line is far to blurred out to be used correctly.
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2012/12/14 | 819 | 2,908 | <issue_start>username_0: If you have ever read manga, or even watched anime - where this is less common - you will *probably* come across something described as 'Japanese Sound Symbols'. They are also known as 'sound symbolic', mimetic, ideophones and Japanese onomatopoeia. You can view much of the dynamics of sound symbols on the [Wikipedia Page](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_sound_symbolism).
Some of the listed examples were:
* じろじろ - jirojiro - *Stare intently*
* きらきら - kirakira - *Sparkle*
* どきどき - dokidoki - *Heart beat*
* ぴんぴん - pinpin - *Lively*
* しいんと - shi~nto - *Silence*
So, I thought that because it's mostly used in Anime & Manga, it *may* be on-topic here. *However* because it's in relation to expressions in **Japanese**, therefore - wouldn't those topics belong in the [Japanese Language & Usage](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/)?
Remember that the sound symbols are *in* Japanese, *used* in Japanese, *for* the Japanese and to express Japanese terms. The only thing it has to do with Anime and Manga is that it is used in the books/episodes!
You can see this question about whether [questions about the Japanese language should be on-topic](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/69/should-we-allow-questions-that-are-about-japanese-language-use-in-anime-manga), but the answer has suggested that it 'relates the the personality of the character' - however these expressions only express the being/situation/feelings of the character. Another example is this question about [the classic blood-nose symbol](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/39/does-the-bloody-nose-trope-necessarily-imply-a-sexual-situation). However, because this is in special relation to anime (obviously because real people *probably* do not get a blood nose when 'excited' :P).
I'd like some opinions on this, thanks in advance.<issue_comment>username_1: These can probably be used outside of mangas, to other forms of media (TV shows, magazines, etc).
Even if it *were* manga unique, it would still be walking the line there, off-topic in my opinion.
They have a perfectly functional **[JLU site](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/)**, that's where Japanese language questions belong.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I'm not exactly sure what the question we're discussing is here.
If it's something like "What are all the japanese sound symbols?". That's a non-answerable list question and should be closed.
If it's "What does 'gerogero' mean?" That's either a general reference question, or more appropriate on [JLU](http://japanese.stackexchange.com). Note that JLU is not particularly welcoming of questions that could be answered with a search of any of the dictionaries listed in their [Resources FAQ](https://japanese.meta.stackexchange.com/a/761/29) (for example [on jisho](http://jisho.org/words?jap=gerogero&eng=&dict=edict)).
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2012/12/14 | 740 | 2,896 | <issue_start>username_0: When asking a question about the difference between the manga and anime, I would have never thought to use the variations tag. Can we create a synonym of this tag as [anime-manga-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-manga-difference "show questions tagged 'anime-manga-difference'"), or at least [differences](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/differences "show questions tagged 'differences'")?<issue_comment>username_1: Honestly the [anime-manga-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-manga-difference "show questions tagged 'anime-manga-difference'") tag looks like should be the main one to me. [variations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/variations "show questions tagged 'variations'") is quite unclear.
In any case, no-one can create synonyms yet, since according to the [Privileges page](https://anime.stackexchange.com/privileges/suggest-tag-synonyms), we need 1250 reputation.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: I'm not a fan of [anime-manga-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-manga-difference "show questions tagged 'anime-manga-difference'"). Of the 9 questions tagged as this, 4 of them aren't about comparing anime and manga. It would quickly get out of hand if we had tags for every pair such as [light-novel-anime-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/light-novel-anime-difference "show questions tagged 'light-novel-anime-difference'"),[anime-movie-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-movie-difference "show questions tagged 'anime-movie-difference'"), [visual-novel-live-action-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/visual-novel-live-action-difference "show questions tagged 'visual-novel-live-action-difference'") (okay maybe the last one is unlikely, but you get the picture). Furthermore, it's not clear what should be done if there are 2 different versions of the anime. If I wanted to ask what the differences are between Eat-Man '97 and Eat-Man '98, would I use the tag [anime-anime-differences](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-anime-differences "show questions tagged 'anime-anime-differences'")? That's just silly.
I don't have a strong feeling one way for [differences](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/differences "show questions tagged 'differences'") vs. [variations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/variations "show questions tagged 'variations'"), but it's not clear to me that the former is more intuitive than the latter. I'd be very surprised if new users use the correct tag regardless of which we choose. From a practical standpoint, I'm just slightly in favor of keeping the status-quo, simply because people are already using it and may not notice the switch.
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2012/12/15 | 1,172 | 4,595 | <issue_start>username_0: This spawned from a discussion on the chat earlier today. There were some differences of opinion as to whether or not this is a good idea.
In [When should we use the anime and manga tags?](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/66/when-should-we-use-the-anime-and-manga-tags), we decided to get rid of the tags [anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") and [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'"), as they were very prone to misuse. It was not at all obvious that these referred to questions which were asking *only* about the anime version or manga version (respectively). While it hasn't yet been implemented, presumably a similar fate will eventually meet [visual-novel](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/visual-novel "show questions tagged 'visual-novel'"), [light-novel](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/light-novel "show questions tagged 'light-novel'"), and other similar tags.
There is a way to fix this other than getting rid of the tags. As karategeek6 proposed on his answer there (which has not gotten many comments or votes), we could use more explicit tags like [manga-specific](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-specific "show questions tagged 'manga-specific'") and [anime-specific](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-specific "show questions tagged 'anime-specific'"). These are more self-explanatory, so they are unlikely to be used inappropriately.
So, in principle, we can keep the tags that got deleted, just with minor modifications to make them less ambiguous. However, it's not clear whether or not we actually want to.
Is it a good idea to re-implement the deleted tags in the form [anime-specific](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-specific "show questions tagged 'anime-specific'") and [manga-specific](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga-specific "show questions tagged 'manga-specific'"), or should we keep things the way they are right now and not have tags for these at all?<issue_comment>username_1: Honestly the [anime-manga-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-manga-difference "show questions tagged 'anime-manga-difference'") tag looks like should be the main one to me. [variations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/variations "show questions tagged 'variations'") is quite unclear.
In any case, no-one can create synonyms yet, since according to the [Privileges page](https://anime.stackexchange.com/privileges/suggest-tag-synonyms), we need 1250 reputation.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: I'm not a fan of [anime-manga-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-manga-difference "show questions tagged 'anime-manga-difference'"). Of the 9 questions tagged as this, 4 of them aren't about comparing anime and manga. It would quickly get out of hand if we had tags for every pair such as [light-novel-anime-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/light-novel-anime-difference "show questions tagged 'light-novel-anime-difference'"),[anime-movie-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-movie-difference "show questions tagged 'anime-movie-difference'"), [visual-novel-live-action-difference](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/visual-novel-live-action-difference "show questions tagged 'visual-novel-live-action-difference'") (okay maybe the last one is unlikely, but you get the picture). Furthermore, it's not clear what should be done if there are 2 different versions of the anime. If I wanted to ask what the differences are between Eat-Man '97 and Eat-Man '98, would I use the tag [anime-anime-differences](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime-anime-differences "show questions tagged 'anime-anime-differences'")? That's just silly.
I don't have a strong feeling one way for [differences](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/differences "show questions tagged 'differences'") vs. [variations](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/variations "show questions tagged 'variations'"), but it's not clear to me that the former is more intuitive than the latter. I'd be very surprised if new users use the correct tag regardless of which we choose. From a practical standpoint, I'm just slightly in favor of keeping the status-quo, simply because people are already using it and may not notice the switch.
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2012/12/15 | 764 | 2,910 | <issue_start>username_0: Is asking about when a specific event happens in an anime or manga on- or off-topic? For example:
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I thought these may be of-topic because:
* They show a lack of research
* They're simple, one-word-provoking questions
They also may not be fit for other reasons.
Thanks in advance.<issue_comment>username_1: My thoughts on this are: questions with lack of research effort are not by default off topic. But this can be set by the community. Asking any question **without providing your effort** will make this site a sort of "Do this research for me, I'm too lazy to type on Google".
I don't think we should be too lenient against those. And by the way, it's not true that the General Reference has been totally removed. It still exists on EL&U, for example:
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Besides, episodes numbers aren't necessarily the same across countries (Japan and Italy for example are different). But your points are even more compelling:
* It asks for one-word answers... Not the best, but perhaps this can be fixed by making the question look for a more deep answer.
* They usually show lack of research, unless the OP proves their own research.
So the point is: **Should we decide what questions are too basic?**
For me, any question that is really too basic such as *What is Naruto's last name?* should be closed (if we decide this, the close reason would be **off topic**) and let other questions opened when the question might look basic but is more complicated, and especially if the OP shows some effort on their part.
So, *General Reference* being there or not, as long as it won't be there, we should probably close as *Not A Real Question* or *Too Localized*.
We're not here as a sort of quick encyclopedia resource.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: **Lack of research is not a close reason, that's what down votes are for.** This is an issue which has come up on multiple Stack Exchange sites, and was implemented with the General Reference close reasons. However, that was considered to be a **massive failure** and has since been removed on all sites which implemented on it. It just results in users drawing arbitrary lines in the sand for when a question is too simple, which is also why I disagree with your second reason for why these questions should be deemed off-topic.
Do think these are good questions? No, they're crap, but that's what down votes are for, not close votes.
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2012/12/15 | 2,438 | 8,521 | <issue_start>username_0: Since I can, because I am me and I can... Ok, now seriously. :P
I have the privileges to change the chat room name and description, so let's propose new names! Consider that you should:
* Propose a name (possibly explain why that name);
* And a description if you want, even if maybe we can keep this one since it points to the main site.
In any case, **provide one per answer**, so other people can vote on a single proposal. :)
Please use Mochan's answer format to keep consistency.<issue_comment>username_1: * **Name**
*Anime Amour and Manga Madness*
* **Description**
For those wishing to discuss their favourite anime and manga, and to socialize with people who enjoy what you do!
* **Explanation**
Amour means 'love' or 'romance'. I'd say I'm fairly in love with anime... and I'm mad about manga, too :)
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: **Name:** SFX
**Description:** For background sounds and chatter that may fall outside the main panels of the Q&A!
*Translator's note: Ok, this was a little tongue-in-cheek so I'm ok with editing the description to fit more to the community's taste.*
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: Here's another idea I had:
**Name:** Speech Bubbles
Can't think of an apt description, though.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_3: * **Name**
Spiky hairs *(or something like that)*
* **Description**
Because 99% of anime characters have spiky hair.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_4: * **Name:**
*Wide eyes*
* **Description:**
The place to discuss anime and manga!
I'm not sure about the description, but I'm sure everyone gets the name!
And yes, I know not every anime/manga uses wide-eyed characters. :D
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_5: **Name:** "Cat's Eye"
**Origin:** The name originates from a cafe reoccurs in many series drawn and authored by <NAME> (Originated in Cat's Eye, reoccurs in City Hunter and Angel Heart). The cafe is run by a trio of sister that moonlight as art thieves under the name of "[Cat's Eye](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%27s_Eye_(manga))." A reference to this is also made in Clamp's Tsubasa Chronicles.
**Reasoning:** The cafe recurs in many anime and manga universes, so it seems like a good place to mingle and talk about various anime and manga. My first choice would probably have been "[Ahnenerbe](http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Ahnenerbe)" from the Type-Moon metafiction, it's also a cafe shop with two entrances located beside a cinema or large bridge, and it exists in multiple locations across multiple meta-universes. Here various characters from the Type-Moon universe can meet people that they would not otherwise be able to without causing inconsistencies in the workings of either world of timeline (E.g., Shiki from *Tsukihime* and Shiki from *Kara no Kyoukai*). I wound up not choosing "Ahnenerbe" because of it's negative relation with [Nazi culture](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahnenerbe).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_6: **Name**:
Ahnenerbe
**Explanation**:
Ahnenerbe is, in the Type-Moon fandom, the cafe where characters from different franchises meet to speak to each other and explain aspects of the story.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_7: **Name:** Akiba
**Description:** Meet up at the Electric Town. (any suggestion is welcomed, a smart quote about Akiba would be perfect)
**Explanation:** As Wikipedia, "major shopping area for electronic, computer, anime, and otaku goods". It's a suggestive place for everyone is interested in anime and manga subculture, JNTO put this place at the top of their [Japan Anime Map](http://www.jnto.go.jp/eng/animemap/index.html), calling it "sacred land of the otaku legions". This contraption of [Akihabara](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara) is used frequently in anime and manga (e.g. *Densha Otoko*) and it's more simple than the long form. Could a word by 5 letters be more meaningful?
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_8: * **Name:** C.H.A.T. -> Cyber Haven for Anime Talk
* **Description:** Cyber Haven for Anime Talk, it'll be a play on the word chat itself.
* **Explanation:** Well, the room will be a haven for anime lovers, and things relating to anime and it's in cyberspace.
What do you think? It'll be neutral to both seasoned anime lovers and newcomers but has a dash of "cyberpunk love" in the name (or so my mind is leading me to perceive :P )
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_9: I'm going to go off the beaten path and suggest the obvious:
**Name:** Anime and Manga Chat
My personal pet peave is looking through the list of chat rooms and having absolutely no idea what half of them are about. Why obfuscate your chat room behind a list of clever in-jokes and memes? Seems counter-productive. Maybe that's just me.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_10: Perhaps a play on a major council or chatroom from an anime?
* From Eva: Human Instrumentality Committee (or SEELE)
I'd propose something from Naruto, but haven't actually watched the series.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_11: * **Name:**
The Guardians
* **Description:**
Guardians of earth united to protect ALL the people from ALL the evil.
For sure the ALL's can be removed, but it comes a bit geeky.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_5: **Name:** The Boundary of the Ethereal Horizon (不可視境界線の境界, Fukashi Kyoukaisen no Kyoukai)
**Description:** General discussion for [anime.stackexchange.com](http://anime.stackexchange.com). Blast reality! Burst into shreds! Banishment... this world!
[anime](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/anime "show questions tagged 'anime'") [chuunibyou](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/chuunibyou "show questions tagged 'chuunibyou'") [manga](https://anime.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/manga "show questions tagged 'manga'")
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The name was changed again to this as of Dec. 29nd, 2013. In an effort to promote more attention on a chat room name.\* If you have a better name suggestion, please post it in the thread and the community will vote on it!
In the words of the Dark Flame Master.... **Perish, enveloped in the flames of darkness!**
*Does not mean the discussion on this matter is closed. If better proposals arise and the community approves, the name and description can be changed.*
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_12: This answer is 3-4 years late and many things changed since the context of the question, but...
**Keep the same name and description**.
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> *Welcome back, my Master! (お帰りなさいませ、ご主人様!) Sit wherever you'd like and enjoy some General Chat for anime.stackexchange.com. Now serving anime and manga images in regular intervals via our maid service. To learn more about our maid service, please visit: meta.anime.stackexchange.com/q/1166/191*
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We, as a community, have been always using the same name. New friends and a whole new story were built using that name. It's almost an traditional and it carries a whole human value with it. It's *neccessary* to keep it? No, sure no. We'll still chat and have fun together. But, as a tradition, it's cool to keep it. It's an *identity* thing.
The term *Maid café* also says a lot about the chat organization. It remembers the culture that's related to the community not only in the chat but in the main Q&A site too - the japanese culture. With our bots (our *"maids"*), we get served with what we want and what we need. It's complete by itself.
It also says a lot about us because we're just like a Maid Café: you can just pull a chair and enjoy stuff you like with nice people. It's inviting. You can feel like there are some jokes in the air and there are people who will interact with you.
More over, Maid cafés are not limited to anime only, which is exactly like us. There are a lot of programmers in the chat and game fans, so random subjects just pop and we can talk about them without worrying if that's part of the *chat* or not. C'mon, chat's are made to chat!
And, above anything, we, as a community, have been always using this name. New friends and a whole new story were built using it. It's almost an traditional and it carries a whole human value with it. It's *neccessary* to keep it? No, it's not. We'll still chat and have fun together. But, as a tradition, it's cool to keep it. It's an *identity* thing. **We are the *Maid Café*** . :)
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2012/12/15 | 513 | 2,198 | <issue_start>username_0: Should we assume a culture neutral perspective when asking a question or it's fine to assume Anime & Manga SE is written mainly from foreigners **and** consequently all question are asked in a non-Japanese cultural perspective?
This issue started to bugs me from [What differentiates anime from regular cartoons](https://anime.stackexchange.com/q/69/98), where "regular" stands for non-anime. Answers to that question clarify how limited that point of view is because, by a Japanese point of view, "regular cartoons" are anime, but the question "foreigner" perspective is still intact.
Three options are available, here a very rough list:
* Japanese perspective: because anime are from Japan (producer perspective)
* Foreigner perspective: because Anime & Manga SE is written in English mainly for a foreign audience (foreigner watcher perspective)
* Neutral perspective: because objectivity and neutrality are major constraints.
Supposing neutral perspective is adopted, should questions have to be rewritten to adapt to that perspective?<issue_comment>username_1: I think even Japanese actually use "Anime" to refer to Japanese-style cartoons only. And I doubt you'll ever see a Japanese calling a Disney cartoon "Anime".
I don't think there's an issue here. :)
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_2: In the particular case you have listed, I'd rather the title be changed to "What differentiates anime from other cartoons?" (changing "regular" to "other"), which I guess is the neutral perspective. It seems to me that it is best to use objective terms whenever possible.
However, I don't think we should change every question and answer to fit with one particular perspective. It's not a very important consideration, as username_1 has said. If there's an easy way to change it to the objective perspective, then I think it's alright to do so, but if you find that you have to rewrite entire sentences to accomplish it, then you're probably infringing on the original author's stylistic rights.
tl;dr: We should not mandate a particular perspective, but we should support the objective perspective whenever it is convenient to do so.
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2012/12/16 | 1,301 | 5,118 | <issue_start>username_0: My question may seem a little simple, but most events regarding anime and manga are chronological.
Would asking a question about the first couple arcs of an anime or manga without the use of the spoiler box be spoiling? Can we assume that people already watched the arcs due to how long ago the content was released?
For example, would it be spoiling if I asked the following question **not** in a spoiler box:
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* If the question is based on anime, using the information from manga chapters that were not yet made into anime episodes is totally a spoiler. I believe that along with including it in a spoiler box, it's a good idea to explicitly state that it comes from manga that has not yet been screened.
* If the question is about the events in a particular episode/chapter, data colected from much later chapters is a spoiler. For example, if the question is "Why did X happen in episode Y?", and the answer is "Because in episode X+100 it's explained, that...". The part after "that" should be put into the spoiler box.
Now, to more controversial examples.
* Information about key events, *especially* about character deaths, should almost always be put into the spoiler box. The exception is if the question is about a specific chapter/episode, and the events happen before that episode. In that case people who haven't watched/read up to this episode/chapter will not open the question in the first place.
* I believe that any cross-over information should also be put into the box. For example, if the question is "Why X", and the answer is "Well, do you remember how in anime YY, character ZZ died in episode 75? It's pretty much the same here". Such information should be put into the box. It's frustraiting to come into a question about something you have watched long ago, and be spoiled on the events of another title that you are watching now.
And finally, every other piece of information that *you* think might be a spoiler for other people that come by your question/answer, should be put into the box. Don't be too worried: if you put an unnecessary box, or forget to put something important into it, other users will most likely edit your question/answer, or leave a comment for you. Remember, it's absolutely nothing bad including information that is hardly (or not at all) a spoiler into the spoiler box; it doesn't hurt anyone.
So, basically, using common sense is enough to determine whether you should use the box or not.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: I argue that anything **later than the scope of the question** is considered a spoiler.
For instance, if the question is about the Chuunin Exams arc in Naruto, an answer from an earlier arc (such as the Zabuza arc) shouldn't be marked as spoilers.
If the answer is from a later arc (Rescuing Sasuke, for example), those details should be marked as spoilers.
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Aside from that, make sure your title isn't spoilerish, and if it is, generalize it to make it good for reading:
How did Character X break out of Edo Tensei?
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Is problematic if Character X broke out of Edo Tensei very recently in the manga, which may spoil it for anime viewers.
How can Edo Tensei be broken?
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Is better. It only implies that Edo Tensei can be broken, which isn't very spoilerific. Inside of the questions, *also in spoiler tags*, should be the detailed question, with some introduction message:
### Warning! The following contains spoiler for Naruto anime viewers!
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That's my perspective on how we should be treating spoilers.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: I'm not sure how the community stands on this, but personally I would rephrase your original question of
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**From a spoiler point of view**
Calling the Baratie Arc "Sanji's Arc" would spoil that there will be such an important person called Sanji and therefore will probably be the new crew member. For a specific event like this, personally I would refer to the **chapter number** for comics or episode number for cartoons. This way people who didn't read or watch as far, would now know they don't want to click on this particular question. Numbers are a clearer reference to the **relative point in time** the event takes place in the story.
**From a question point of view**
Referring to a number might make the question **unnatural**, since we usually don't remember the events in every chapter. The contents of the question will obviously be explained in the body of the question with proper spoiler tags, but that might not be the community's convention.
**Conclusion**
Personally I would add chapter numbers for specific events, but I'm not sure how the community thinks about this.
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2012/12/17 | 736 | 2,977 | <issue_start>username_0: Questions about language and expressions are bound to happen over and over. Another [meta](https://anime.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/69/should-we-allow-questions-that-are-about-japanese-language-use-in-anime-manga) makes a point that they sometimes belong here (character-centric) and sometimes, to [JLU](https://japanese.stackexchange.com/) for being generic or not specific to anime.
It is hard for a non-Japanese to know this a'priori, so, we shouldn't penalize (by closing) questions that are a better fit at JLU simply because the author would first need to know the answer to know they are a better fit there. Instead, migrating them once it's been established they are a better fit there should be completely natural reaction.
If the migration path is not yet available, adding a request to admins to create it.<issue_comment>username_1: Migration paths are added for non-mod users, for sites where the flow is "constant" and not occasional. Moderators can migrate to any site in any moment, so the absence of migration paths is not a problem.
Until you get a migration path, the course of action that I suggest is:
* **Vote to close** and/or
* **flag**, choose **custom** and write something like
>
> Off topic, please migrate to [site]
>
> Be concise. :P In any case, don't do the second while we're still in Beta. Your flag might be declined.
>
>
>
Ah one last thing: Meta is (and will be) always the first option for migrating. :) So you're going to have a maximum of 4 extra sites in general, I think.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Some notes about how this will play out once we go further. username_1 notes what's relevant for us at the moment since we're in private beta - no migration, period.
Once we enter public beta, the main method to migrate will be to flag a post for moderator attention. Then, someone on the community team, or your pro tem moderator team when that shows up, will handle the rest. In this vein, any kind of migration is fine if it works, we don't need concrete paths.
If this site reaches graduation, then we can open official migration paths that even normal users will be able to use when voting to close. However, the requirements to this are strict. We need a **demonstrated need of the migration path as illustrated by a history of migration**. That is, we don't just add a migration path based on logical connection. Consider Arqade, our Gaming site, and our Game Development site. In logic, they would make sense to migrate to each other. In practice, there is no history of migration from Game Dev over to Arqade, and there have been only less than 30 questions migrated from Arqade to Game Dev over the course of over 2 years. So there isn't enough "wrong traffic" to warrant the official public path to be established, it's unnecessary.
Let's wait and see what migration trends we see as the coming months go by, then we can revisit this topic.
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