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dblake123
t2_ewy86
I don't know about anyone else, but I don't know any software developers who drive a lambo. If you are a software developer and you drive a lambo you ALSO own a significant piece of a company. Which means you're not really a software developer and more of an investor in my opinion.
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ebgx1ix
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FG_Regulus
t2_aybf9
Looking it up there seem to be two terms: * Space Leak - referring to when a program uses more memory than it needs but does, within the life of the program, free it. * Memory leak - referring to _either_ when a program has allocated memory with no references, or when a program has tracked allocations that have no codepath to deletion. My example there was the former and your original point seems to be correct. Nice chat!
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ecera7o
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cyancynic
t2_20i37
I. Haven’t lived in the same house for over 5 years since leaving my parents home. I regret every purchase. I’ll be retiring in five years. I reckon I’m ahead not buying. Maintenance is never my problem and I don’t have huge amounts of cash tied up.
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ebgx2pd
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t1_ebgjvg1
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Dynoman
t2_40fq8
What are the costs of running your own screeps server? Is it a subscription thing?
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ecerbz2
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BillyWilliamton
t2_409t5
I love how you're being down voted as if other countries are entitled to those jobs.
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ebgx5ks
t3_a4n8jv
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t5_2fwo
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cowinabadplace
t2_3xj24
The first time I wrote Go I wrote an application that hooked up via Protobuf to our Java APIs and worked without any setup on Linux and OS X. From inception to deployment on client machines it was the fastest I’ve ever achieved an objective in any language. It was a tech demonstrator so I didn’t continue building on it so I can’t tell you about he maintainability of the code I wrote in those two days, but boy was it smooth sailing. Easiest language and ecosystem to enter ever. Nothing comes close. I don’t like it that much but I’m glad something that opinionated occupies that space.
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ecerfbo
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ClickHereToREEEEE
t2_2i6wo11n
I'd rather make twice as much.
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ebgx9de
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebgp1cm
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgx9de/
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freezodaz
t2_26j55a08
Cool, I'm going to tweet this on [www.bashtwits.com](https://www.bashtwits.com) and never think about it again.
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ecernsp
t3_a8epbk
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/r/programming/comments/a8epbk/i_made_a_playlist_of_129_videos_on_programming/ecernsp/
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t5_2fwo
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GoodThingsGrowInOnt
t2_o2ebkno
It's technically easiest but the productivity overhead of a creative team who doesn't talk to each other is massive.
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ebgxabb
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebg2iuo
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgxabb/
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t5_2fwo
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hansenchen
t2_gxjvk
Thank you! <s> Look at you, seizing the means of production! Does it feel crimey? </s> All 9 tips are new to me!
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1545595481
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ecernwt
t3_a8la52
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t1_ecc88fy
/r/programming/comments/a8la52/8_super_heroic_linux_commands_that_you_probably/ecernwt/
1547985275
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t5_2fwo
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GoodThingsGrowInOnt
t2_o2ebkno
You're wrong about all of that. I won't explain why.
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ebgxbji
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebgq4yf
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgxbji/
1547413960
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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saltybandana
t2_2hallns5
You're missing the forest for the trees here. > Also .unwrap() isn't equivalent to catch(Exception e) {} and technically a car isn't a truck, yet putting diesel fuel in either of them will cause problems. in other words, the technicalities have nothing to do with the point. They're both a developer explicitly writing code that actively doesn't handle the error case, and if you're not ok with doing it in one language then you shouldn't be ok with doing it in another. If you think the error not being silenced (ie it crashes noisily) is the important difference between those two then I'm going to conclude that we have a fundamentally different view of what's considered acceptable in software. > I'm not advocating the use of .unwrap(), just saying it doesn't trigger my desire to fire the person that wrote it. That's your prerogative, but for me it's not enough to simply have software that runs, I want it to be stable and that means dealing with the failure cases in both languages. > This is a very disruptive behavior and you will be forced to change your code to better handle the error. Silencing the error and completely ignoring it might lead to some other symptom way down the line and maybe corrupted data that you notice way later. It won't be as clear to you where the problem happened in the source. it's a principle known as fail fast, and while you can argue that it's safer you can't argue that the person writing that code is doing any better in terms of stability of the software. At this point I think this is an ideological issue for you and I don't think there's any meaningful discussion to be had as a result. Maybe you'll surprise me, but I doubt it. They're both bad, they should both be avoided, and they should both result in disciplinary action for any developer who is doing it in production code. The fact that they're aberant in different ways is not important here. > let a = foo()?; is just as explicit as the Go boilerplate. It is a shorthand for: I misunderstood, I thought you were referencing exceptions allowing for code not to deal with the error at the call site. With that clarification in mind, that's fine but it doesn't invalidate the point that explicitness has advantages. The fact that rust has macro's for sugar is irrelevant here and I'm unsure what your point was supposed to be considering the context. I think you were trying to argue that it means there's less room for mistakes due to typo's? If so I refer you back to my original point about the difference in worldview. A typo or a mistake of this sort is something that's easily fixed once discovered. To draw an analogy, you can easily screw up the code in a catch block, but no one is arguing that writing catch blocks is error prone. but this very fact is WHY I'm arguing what I'm arguing.
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ecero5h
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lolniclol
t2_7gl92
Probably because they make software that for the most part works, unlike the indian software farms. ​ Member when Windows updates didn't break computers every time? I do.
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ebgxcrf
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ecerp8b
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karuna_murti
t2_xkl09uk
- path to stable - path to async 3.x already my favorite, now heading to right direction. Now if only diesel has async competitor.
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ebgxct1
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/r/programming/comments/a4cebi/rocket_v04_typed_uris_database_support_revamped/ebgxct1/
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o11c
t2_fjay8
Most people can write software that *appears* to work and *appears* to achieve its goal, until it doesn't.
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1545595525
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ecerq7w
t3_a8kwg9
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/r/programming/comments/a8kwg9/what_every_programmer_should_know_about_memory/ecerq7w/
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sponge_bob_
t2_clp1k
try setting up a tech company in australia where our internet is slower than a snail on a treadmill
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ebgxeop
t3_a4n8jv
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delight1982
t2_spv3t
Sounds like you are taking about Nim
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1545595655
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ecerx6i
t3_a8rptf
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t1_ecepjqc
/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecerx6i/
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CPlusPlusDeveloper
t2_5xexu
That's assuming, you stay single and childless. How much would it cost to say have four kids? You'd need a three bedroom house, a minivan, a yard, etc.? Almost everywhere in Western Europe that's quite expensive, whereas in Utah or Texas, it's dirt cheap. In general, family formation in Europe is much more expensive than the US, and it's reflected in much lower birthrates. Particularly in Italy.
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ebgxfcn
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/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgxfcn/
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drysart
t2_3kikg
But... nothing about PostgreSQL prevents you from continuing to use the generated IDs SQL Server created; and nothing about Postgres prevents you from setting your PK sequence start value to far enough ahead that in the mid-migration period where you're using both databases they can both continue to generate BIGINTs independently without stepping on each other.
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ecery28
t3_a8vpy4
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t5_2fwo
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gas4u
t2_daqo0
Good video nonetheless broski
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ebgxgni
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t1_ebg16jn
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgxgni/
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lone-scientist
t2_ieu9r
> But I would argue most of your code SHOULD be error logic, preventing errors, and/or consistency checks to try and detect errors. I could not disagree more. Most of your code should be engineered towards reducing error handling to the bare minimum. There are languages that allow you to tie guarantees to types in a really beautiful way. Take a look at [Elm](https://elm-lang.org/), [Idris](https://www.idris-lang.org/), or Haskell. [This talk showcases what I mean](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcgmSRJHu_8). When I code using these languages, error handling tends to live in the "access layer" (i.e. side-effects), while most of the core logic stays completely error free. Besides, you can have **MORE** explicitness and safety without _magic_ and Go's boilerplate. Have you ever heard of [`Result`](https://package.elm-lang.org/packages/elm/core/latest/Result)?
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ecerzny
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RollCageOnTheGT3
t2_f4lccc9
I mean it had to have been paid for at some point. Maybe they frontloaded the payments or inherited the house, but I don't know if you can just wave it away as free.
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ebgxhgg
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/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgxhgg/
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saltybandana
t2_2hallns5
the point is that you're explicitly telling the software to stop and anyone looking at the code can see it. it's uglier in Go, but the explicit approach has benefits over using exceptions. And yes, exceptions have benefits over the Go approach, but that's not what's being attacked in this thread so isn't really being discussed.
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eces3sw
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t1_ecel1ug
/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/eces3sw/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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icetheace
t2_18hijudb
I prefer this site. https://m.directtextbook.com
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ebgxi3z
t3_a4r3sd
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t3_a4r3sd
/r/programming/comments/a4r3sd/a_rare_sale_on_taocp_is_happening/ebgxi3z/
1547414041
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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drysart
t2_3kikg
What database server *doesn't* let you just pull the generated ID into a server-side variable to use across multiple statements in a batch *without* requiring a roundtrip to deliver the ID to the client mid-batch?
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1545595806
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eces56k
t3_a8vpy4
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/r/programming/comments/a8vpy4/why_did_we_shift_away_from_databasegenerated_ids/eces56k/
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WaywardTraveller
t2_590j6
Just to be clear, I'm in no way voicing any opinion about whether you, or anyone else, are better off renting or purchasing. Merely discussing the financial differences between the two.
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ebgxlvi
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/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgxlvi/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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nfrankel
t2_ayl6m
Rule #4: > /r/programming is not a support forum
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ecesdik
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/r/programming/comments/a8xluy/can_someone_please_help_me_with_this/ecesdik/
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t5_2fwo
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fungussa
t2_3wv64
Do you know what 'the cloud' is?
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ecesirv
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Major_Reacher
t2_alxao
Do they though? I get paid £500 a day. I’m sure these jobs also exists in Canada. So they are probably about the same.
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ebgxrfn
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Wegnerr
t2_yo3tv
What's the advantage of using voip over skype/slack/any other app?
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eceslhk
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/r/programming/comments/a8xl5o/i_decided_to_build_my_own_sip_server_and_i_think/eceslhk/
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r/programming
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sanity
t2_75zx
Yes, that's the one.
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ebgxry8
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t1_ebgvvyq
/r/programming/comments/a4dtp2/kweb_a_new_approach_to_building_rich_webapps_in/ebgxry8/
1547414162
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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c-smile
t2_ue34p
Anger is not good for your health, e.g. you already lost ability to read even basic messages. TL;DR for you: here I am talking about making Sciter Open Source with BSD alike license.
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ecesod1
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/r/programming/comments/a8vkzm/sciternode_as_an_alternative_to_electron/ecesod1/
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brokething
t2_7kzg7
You misunderstood, it's not that Rust does not fix things about C, it definitely does. However, *most Rust features are not fixes to C*, they are entirely new things that turn Rust into a very different beast, and in my opinion disqualify it from being the "next C" or a "pure C replacement".
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ecespef
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/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecespef/
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t5_2fwo
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ReDucTor
t2_4cv2u
I think some people also believe it is helping the author more.
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False
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ebgxupq
t3_a4m0rb
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t1_ebgkegu
/r/programming/comments/a4m0rb/game_engine_black_book_doom/ebgxupq/
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redditthinks
t2_43jni
[Crystal.](https://crystal-lang.org/)
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ecesudw
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/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecesudw/
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ronniethelizard
t2_1532vc
Since it is a coffee machine, presumably it heats water. The simple solution to this is to put the CPU and dGPU in the water container to preheat the water. This solves two problems: * Overheating * Environmental waste from the extra electricity to heat the water. * The coffee machine being down because of a heat problem. ;)
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ebgxyu3
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/r/programming/comments/a45jvw/electron_and_the_decline_of_native_apps/ebgxyu3/
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oridb
t2_90rkq
Why do you believe that the parent uses the online demo playground for developing their software?
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ecesuo8
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Heiemmdsjsieiemms
t2_2r6oqdcr
So... you *can* contribute to a taxed advantaged retirement account. Please tell me you don’t write technical documentation.
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ebgxyyz
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saltybandana
t2_2hallns5
This is a sleight of hand and one I don't appreciate. functional languages that have a strict separation of side effects vs pure code of course has a tendency to put the error handling in the code dealing with side effects. To be quite rude about it, no shit, sherlock. What you're basically saying is "anytime I interact with the real world in languages like haskell, I have to handle errors". Yep. And doing so is going to involve a lot of code or you're not being complete about it and your software is therefore not stable. No one believes that Haskell is the one language where you don't have to worry about the network not being available when making web requests.
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False
0
ecesuvj
t3_a8rptf
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/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecesuvj/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
tonefart
t2_ywdx0
You can buy and live in a used RV.
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1544406989
False
0
ebgxzsy
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebg06rv
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgxzsy/
1547414259
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
gcross
t2_572z0
Ah, I see what you are getting at now. Thank you.
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1545596294
False
0
ecesvt1
t3_a8rptf
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t1_ecespef
/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecesvt1/
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2
t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
JoCoMoBo
t2_v9jxt
It really depends on the individual. If you are young and healthy then health care is cheap. However I can guarantee you that as you get older then the chances of requiring health care will increase. >By contrast a London tube pass costs $400 a month No, it doesn't. I commute in from Zone 2. A monthly travel card is $166 ([https://www.toptiplondon.com/transport/tickets/underground-tickets-travelcards/](https://www.toptiplondon.com/transport/tickets/underground-tickets-travelcards/)) To spend $ 400 on you would need to get the Zone 1-8 Travel Card. Living in Zone 8 and commuting to London is not something you would want to do regularly. (I've done this for short periods). It would be around 2 hours each way.
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1544407012
False
0
ebgy0pv
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebgwzxs
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgy0pv/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
yawaramin
t2_77bue
> You can create an object with all the needed information without a round trip to the DB. Except now all your clients have to implement the logic for generating a unique ID. Also, if you create an object without round-tripping to the DB, what are you doing with the object? What happens if something crashes and the object you just created (e.g. a sale transaction) gets lost?
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1545596380
False
0
ecet0fy
t3_a8vpy4
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t1_ecehlls
/r/programming/comments/a8vpy4/why_did_we_shift_away_from_databasegenerated_ids/ecet0fy/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
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1544407034
False
0
ebgy1lr
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t1_ebgbzsm
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgy1lr/
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0
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
VernorVinge93
t2_2amyhthy
So far, well documented json (I guess Yaml is also okay, but the formatting always breaks just a little bit). My actually preference is Haskell though (even bash or python are pretty good). It gives you a Turing complete language with types (on Haskell's case) that can give you error messages of you make a mistake and people already know the format and syntax.
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1545596392
False
0
ecet111
t3_a8rptf
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t1_ece7b1v
/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecet111/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
jeffzebub
t2_1nkvfd8x
I was a software developer in the 90s and early 00s. I moved on to something else, but I thought that this work had been commoditized and outsourced to offshore developers. Is it really still as lucrative as this suggests?
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False
0
ebgy2hm
t3_a4n8jv
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t3_a4n8jv
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgy2hm/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
bighi
t2_6b0c4
And the only way to write software that achieves its goal (be it helping people find a house to rent, or communicating, or listing their tasks) is to learn the low-level operation of memory?
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1545596395
False
0
ecet15q
t3_a8kwg9
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t1_ecerq7w
/r/programming/comments/a8kwg9/what_every_programmer_should_know_about_memory/ecet15q/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
elsif1
t2_4au7b
>You can get employees who are just as skilled and capable in nearly any other city in the world without the expense. Can you, though? In numbers? How many AI specialists are in Phoenix, for example? I do agree that many companies don't need super high levels of bleeding edge talent, though. Another factor is that startups also like to be near their investors / networks, but I've started to see an uptick in startups choosing to locate elsewhere (Seattle, etc)
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1544407085
False
0
ebgy3m8
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t1_ebgkvlm
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgy3m8/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
yawaramin
t2_77bue
Meh, I don't see anything described here that wouldn't be solved more neatly by [Instagram-style sharded IDs](https://instagram-engineering.com/sharding-ids-at-instagram-1cf5a71e5a5c).
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False
0
ecet9sn
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/r/programming/comments/a8vpy4/why_did_we_shift_away_from_databasegenerated_ids/ecet9sn/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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iskin
t2_4ae3c
Try for it if you think you will enjoy. Any fear of being outclassed should be decided after you've worked it for awhile. If you don't like it or it doesn't like you then you move on.
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1544407098
False
0
ebgy44e
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t1_ebgvo0l
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgy44e/
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r/programming
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existentialwalri
t2_qzhaeug
go is not simple, it's SIMPLISTIC; best way it was ever put to me by seasoned go devs... and after while myself i saw what they meant
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1545596631
False
0
ecetds3
t3_a8rptf
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/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecetds3/
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7
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
elsif1
t2_4au7b
Timezones suck. I mean, they're necessary, but they suck to deal with.
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1544407141
False
0
ebgy5tb
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebg0loe
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgy5tb/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
VernorVinge93
t2_2amyhthy
Right. Imgcat and catimg both exist.
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1545596664
False
0
ecetfm7
t3_a8mjza
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t1_ecdkncn
/r/programming/comments/a8mjza/templeos_down_the_rabbit_hole/ecetfm7/
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r/programming
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nomnommish
t2_mrgpd
20-30% of what income base though?? Say an average senior engineer or lead makes 200k in California. 20-30% of that is 40k-60k. Meaning 150k elsewhere. In fact it might be closer to 130k in some places. But 60k is 5k a month. Even if you count in taxes, it still means 3k a month. Or 4k with tax breaks. Granted that California rents and property prices are crazy, but if you're paying 1.5k - 2k a month in a cheap place, you're paying about 3k - 5k a month for a somewhat similar place. My point is, income increase rapidly starts outstripping cost of living expense and lets you start building up serious levels of savings. A low cost of living area with low income will never let you accelerate your savings like that. You will be hidebound to a lifetime of servitude to save enough for retirement.
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False
0
ebgy5y6
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebg06rv
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgy5y6/
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r/programming
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pjmlp
t2_755w5
Those 25 reasons will decrease with each Java release, and in couple of years it will join Scala, Clojure and Groovy in market share. Java rules the JVM, just like C# rules the CLR, C rules POSIX, JavaScript the browser, C++ rules CUDA and so forth. The "system language" of the platform dictates the rules, it is the one used to extend it, the official ABI, and everything else requires additional tooling, FFI integration, mixed mode debugging support, wrapper libraries for idiomatic patterns and so on. A good lesson I have learned thoughtout the years was that staying with platform languages always wins in the long run.
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False
0
ecetgjq
t3_a7r8qv
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t1_ecer8mc
/r/programming/comments/a7r8qv/eclipse_410_released/ecetgjq/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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harmar21
t2_ic34q
I work for a publisher. We tried to stop book printing, but we had such a high demand for it, we had to continue... This was even a reference book where you can have quick and easy bookmarks, hot linking, erratas, etc, but people rather have a hardcopy in their hands.
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1544407154
False
0
ebgy6ah
t3_a4m0rb
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t1_ebgh9bl
/r/programming/comments/a4m0rb/game_engine_black_book_doom/ebgy6ah/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
scirc
t2_hsxce
Pretty sure it's being done for a former NASA engineer that worked on the AGC and subsequently bought the unit as surplus, not for NASA themselves.
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1545596690
False
0
ecetgy8
t3_a8tmd0
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t1_ecelvq7
/r/programming/comments/a8tmd0/apollo_guidance_computer_restoring_the_computer/ecetgy8/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
iCyber
t2_66snz
It's actually interesting to me. I work in Canada and although salaries are pretty competitive here. I can easily find the same job in some state in the US for twice the salary and same cost of living depending on the state...
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1544407175
False
0
ebgy76k
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t3_a4n8jv
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgy76k/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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sanderspedro
t2_z77q8
VoIP is not an app. It stands for Voice over IP. In fact, Skype and similar apps use VoIP at is core. Routr is a tool you can use to create your own VoIP app or service.
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1545596737
False
0
ecetjfn
t3_a8xl5o
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t1_eceslhk
/r/programming/comments/a8xl5o/i_decided_to_build_my_own_sip_server_and_i_think/ecetjfn/
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r/programming
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False
ryantwopointo
t2_5n496
I started at that pay at an entry level in a small town in the Midwest.. that seems crazy low
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1544407205
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0
ebgy8cx
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebghque
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgy8cx/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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crabbone
t2_e3qdk15
Trust me, this: https://github.com/wvxvw/golog/blob/olegs/expose-native-objects/native/decoder.go#L67 was a lot of fun to write. Maybe I don't know how bad it can get, because the second worst place after Go for me is split between Java and C#. But Go is *a lot* worse than even Java in this respect.
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False
0
ecetkse
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t1_ecejlg3
/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecetkse/
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r/programming
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CandleTiger
t2_bb39jns
I mean, it’s not like welders too good for pipes are not a thing. Tell the person putting prototype airframes together that they did a great job and the next assignment is 3,000 miles of pipes... I bet they won’t be satisfied.
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False
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ebgycfb
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t1_ebgim5g
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgycfb/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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Wegnerr
t2_yo3tv
No, I know that. I'm asking why build your own, when there are good ones already made
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False
0
ecetmxe
t3_a8xl5o
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t1_ecetjfn
/r/programming/comments/a8xl5o/i_decided_to_build_my_own_sip_server_and_i_think/ecetmxe/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
TurboGranny
t2_4z68w
Developer in Houston checking. Definitely the way to go.
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1544407350
False
0
ebgye1e
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebgh818
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgye1e/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
lone-scientist
t2_ieu9r
Now you are just nit-picking part of my argument. I talked about types and guarantees and only mentioned side-effects as an example. I talked about the `Result` abstraction. You decided to ignore those. Have a good day!
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1545596833
False
0
ecetopd
t3_a8rptf
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t1_ecesuvj
/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/ecetopd/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
CrypticCube
t2_a3cch
Are you Zack Ryder?
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1544407391
False
0
ebgyfo0
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebg16jn
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgyfo0/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
pmedv
t2_bwznk
Looks promising, thank you! Will this sciter add-on use the same V8 instance from Node.js? Or the addon has another scripting engine instance, like in Electron?
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0
1545596877
False
0
ecetr01
t3_a8vkzm
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t3_a8vkzm
/r/programming/comments/a8vkzm/sciternode_as_an_alternative_to_electron/ecetr01/
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r/programming
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False
CPlusPlusDeveloper
t2_5xexu
> If you are young and healthy then health care is cheap. However I can guarantee you that as you get older then the chances of requiring health care will increase. And yet the vast majority of software engineers are young and healthy. (As well as covered extensively by their employer health insurance.) Again, without devolving into a general argument about US good or evil, the fact that old Americans pay a lot in healthcare is pretty much irrelevant to the difference between what a 30 year old American engineer makes relative to a British engineer. > No, it doesn't. I commute in from Zone 2. A monthly travel card is $166 Okay, so let's take that as a given. The relative difference to owning a Toyota Camry, is $90 a month. That doesn't explain why American engineer are getting paid $100k+/year more than equivalent British engineers. Let me even take it one step back. Let's look at other skilled professions. London also has a healthy market for investment bankers. London investment bankers do not make significantly less than New York based investment bankers. If anything, they probably make more. Same for corporate lawyers. Yet London software engineers make significantly less than New York engineers. It can't simply be that the intrinsic properties of living in London are the reason why. Otherwise we'd see similar gaps among bankers and lawyers.
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False
0
ebgyg6n
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/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgyg6n/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
sanderspedro
t2_z77q8
Up! hehe. I created Routr as a part of a bigger system, a UCaaS.
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1545596898
False
0
ecets4l
t3_a8xl5o
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t1_ecetmxe
/r/programming/comments/a8xl5o/i_decided_to_build_my_own_sip_server_and_i_think/ecets4l/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
CrippledEye
t2_asqlv7v
Maybe its his typing speed
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1544407446
False
0
ebgyhqp
t3_a4qfu6
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null
t1_ebgt4jw
/r/programming/comments/a4qfu6/i_keep_seeing_yt_vids_using_this_atrocious_stock/ebgyhqp/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
Doriphor
t2_6z4p5
Since they're working on it for the Apollo landing's 50th anniversary, I assumed NASA was in on it, but you might be right.
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0
1545596969
False
0
ecetvw7
t3_a8tmd0
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t1_ecetgy8
/r/programming/comments/a8tmd0/apollo_guidance_computer_restoring_the_computer/ecetvw7/
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1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
I_AM_A_SMURF
t2_be0j5
No true, not as a Software Engineer anyway. I have all of this (minus firing without good cause but still) normal SV salary and remote job. Healthcare and retirement is a problem for most people but not SWE.
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0
1544407458
False
0
ebgyi86
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebgp1cm
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgyi86/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
liquidivy
t2_adfz3
Smalltalk, I guess. SeL4, from another perspective. The Midori project from Microsoft research: http://joeduffyblog.com/2015/11/03/blogging-about-midori/
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0
1545597051
False
0
eceu04o
t3_a8rptf
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t1_ecdld7o
/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/eceu04o/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
zulelord
t2_4aa0f
NH pays $140k for that, seems very low for NY
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1544407470
False
0
ebgyio1
t3_a4n8jv
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null
t1_ebghque
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgyio1/
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7
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
brokething
t2_7kzg7
I am not really making a positive or negative statement about the safety features of Rust, I am just describing how Rust and C are very different languages.
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0
1545597131
False
0
eceu4eg
t3_a8rptf
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t1_ecefdgd
/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/eceu4eg/
1547986428
5
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
elsif1
t2_4au7b
I think your Google pay info might be outdated if you think a good silicon valley eng is only getting $120k. I don't blame you, though, it is constantly going up to try and keep up with the housing market.
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0
1544407537
False
0
ebgyla6
t3_a4n8jv
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t1_ebgs5yf
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgyla6/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
redditthinks
t2_43jni
For small web projects take a look at Crystal. For larger ones, C# (and F#) is great.
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0
eceu51f
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t1_ecepe1c
/r/programming/comments/a8rptf/i_do_not_like_go/eceu51f/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
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False
TurboGranny
t2_4z68w
Just a counter point here. Most of those peeps are working in feature houses. You can get programming jobs at non-software companies and not get abused. I get 27 days off plus 6 holidays and maybe pull 6 hours a day.
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1544407567
False
0
ebgymfl
t3_a4n8jv
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null
t1_ebg84t4
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgymfl/
1547414568
1
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
Scellow
t2_9phqw
Sciter is awesome, the only downsite was lack of tutorials and TIS, wish i could use JS or better: TS out of the box
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0
1545597272
False
0
eceuc6d
t3_a8vkzm
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null
t3_a8vkzm
/r/programming/comments/a8vkzm/sciternode_as_an_alternative_to_electron/eceuc6d/
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2
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
james41235
t2_gwvty
And? It doesn't cost 250k a year to live in DFW/NC/CO...
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0
1544407580
False
0
ebgymxk
t3_a4n8jv
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null
t1_ebgy1lr
/r/programming/comments/a4n8jv/why_software_developers_are_paid_5x_more_in_the/ebgymxk/
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t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
PLATYPUS_WRANGLER_15
t2_v3ge4dc
::UuidCreate or the Unix equivalent?
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0
1545597336
False
0
eceufqx
t3_a8vpy4
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t1_ecet0fy
/r/programming/comments/a8vpy4/why_did_we_shift_away_from_databasegenerated_ids/eceufqx/
1547986570
3
t5_2fwo
r/programming
public
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False
pron98
t2_f0thb
Right (or output character, depending on your perspective). There is no algorithm that takes a DFA and tells in fewer than n steps whether or not it halts on some input within n steps -- same as for a TM.
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rustyrazorblade
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I agree with everything in this post. Go is a mediocre language in every regard, it only excels at being easy to pick up. Just because something is easy to use doesn’t make it a great solution for complex problems. A hammer is easy to use but doesn’t exactly work for building anything with even a trivial level of complexity.
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percykins
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Please tell me you don't ignore the word "unless" while reading technical documentation.
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i9srpeg
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Doesn't that mean that while your tests are passing in the in-memory db, your production code might still fail?
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undertheskysoblue
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Hey don't dismiss HTML. Respect the elderly.
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ahminus
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Couldn't agree with you more. I have spent 25 years trying to convince newly minted programmers that a *large chunk* of all the code you write is going to be error handling code, and there are no two ways about it. No programming language removes the need to deal with errors, whether they come from network failures, disk writes, slow hardware devices, bad user input, or even bad program logic and suddenly you're dealing with a stale or nil object reference. If one could trust people to *write* proper exception handling code, it would be great, but my experience is that explicit error propagation is one way to *force* people to consider things that they otherwise ignore. Unchecked exceptions are, in all actuality, the very type of "goto" that Djikstra hated so much (and ironically, C's "goto" is *not*, because you can only jump within function scope). Although, TBH, I see people do things like ignore the return from "scanf" all the damn time, anyways. But, at least the compiler tells you what a bonehead you're being.
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SizzlerWA
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Well, I’m basing my claim on 25 years of software development experience. I’m a principal engineer. I’m not biased against native development, I like it. Based on what personal experience do you “flat out not believe me”? Have you developed macOS and iOS apps using a variety of both native and non-native SDKs? If so, I’d be genuinely curious to learn about your experience. If not, then I don’t see what basis you have for your counterclaim ... It’s possible I’m doing things wrong, if so, enlighten me please. So?
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crabbone
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More like half a century.
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cyancynic
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I understand that. The thing people don't figure is closing costs, commissions, maintenance, depreciation of durable goods like appliances, plumbing fixtures, taxes, HOA fees, misc other upkeep, and loss of liquidity. I wish I had figured that stuff out sooner. I would have saved myself a bunch of money. Buying makes sense at somewhere around the 10+ year mark and I've never been that stable. I have itchy feet I guess.
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jayesch
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We had an impending deadline and were asked to provide software workaround for hardware bug. It was tense situation. Everyone is in the lab and it’s 10 pm on Saturday evening. Some VP dude, (let’s call him Joe) walks in after his work out routine, calls a scrum. My manager, his manager, director, the VP dude and I are all in the meeting room waiting for next words from VP dude. He says: I don’t care, put more people if required, make it work. My director politely replies : “It doesn’t work this way Joe. If you put 9 men and women to work doesn’t mean you can make a baby in 1 month.” Since then I have used this same counter argument many times when program managers fail to understand that certain jobs can’t be parallelized.
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Why would you use electron for a command line tool when you have node? Electron is for GUI applications
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v3rminator
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There are not both the same, not even close. The USA was losing the space race big time and needed to distract the public from the shit show in Vietnam. The greatest achievement in human history and we haven't been there in almost 50 years, why? The Apollo program, that's all 17 missions costed 150 billion in today's money, the USA annual military budget is 650 billion so don't start with the it's all too expensive crap.
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mrcrassic
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Not true. Barcelona, for example, has rent prices within the city center that rival NYC. They also pay more in taxes. Tell me how software devs there can only make $30-50k/year USD? Furthermore, it is possible to earn NYC/SF salaries (or close to them) from remote locations. Hard, but possible.
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Streetguru
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I guess a project called mechanical blender exists but I don't know anything about it. http://www.mechanicalblender.org/
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THE_SIGTERM
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Want a cookie?
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c-smile
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"SciterLite"... hmmm I probably need to give it better name or just to revitalize my htmlayout as a name of this thing … Anyway, that-thing.node will contain just gfx, html, css implementation. When you will load <html window-frame="standard"> <script>…</script> </html> the script will be executed by Node.JS itself and in its main thread. For now (in that demo from the article) I am using "unisex" N-API interfaces that are agnostic to JS engine used by Node (NodeJS can use Google's V8 or Microsoft's Chakra).
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