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**Nick Nisi:** Mm-hm. I kind of wanna build on that a little bit and talk about some weird things that I'm currently doing with my setup... And I've been kind of experimenting with this, but over the holidays this year I ended up picking up an M1 Mac Mini, and -- I was gonna ask, we're probably all on Macs here, right?... |
**Kevin Ball:** How did you guess...? |
**Nick Nisi:** \[08:03\] Yeah... For work, I have a 16-inch 2020 MacBook Pro. And that's what I do all of my work on. But now my personal machine is this M1 Mac Mini... And I have this whole setup, which we'll kind of talk about the hardware side of things a little bit more with that... But I have that all hooked up go... |
So sometimes I end up working -- because I'm just using Vim and Tmux, I just happen to work from the Mac Mini SSH-ed into the other machine... And if I want to access other things, like "Oh, I wanna connect to a database" or whatever, through SSH config you can just configure port forwarding, and have all of that... So... |
And then I have kind of the best of both worlds, where I can run my podcast app and listen to podcasts if I want to... That is M1-based; it's an iPhone app that runs on that... But then everything that I do - it's almost indistinguishable, because it's all running through SSH, which is very transparent, when my whole s... |
**Kevin Ball:** How do we get this away from being a Vim party? We've gotta move on... \[laughter\] What are some other fun software things that maybe aren't as deeply tied into the terminal? |
**Brian Douglas:** Yeah, I would say what I've been playing a lot around with - and my day job is at GitHub, so I had some pretty early access with GitHub Codespaces, so - plug-plug maybe, I don't know... But I've been using it for one-off instances. I've made a contribution to Node.js, very trivial, when the whole ES ... |
So I've done that quite a few times for open source contributions, running tests in a hosted environment... Kind of similar to your Mac Mini setup, but except those Mac Minis are sitting somewhere in -- I guess the Codespace is probably some sort of Microsoft server room. |
**Nick Nisi:** Yeah. |
**Kevin Ball:** Yeah, dockerizing your dev and test environments is so powerful. It's not something actually that we have set up in my current work, but it is something I've done in the past and it makes it so trivial to do things like that, where you're like "Oh... Well, why don't I just run this someplace else? Why d... |
**Nick Nisi:** And not to bring this back to Vim, but I've totally used Codespaces to use the terminal to run Vim on my iPad... So it's a cool environment, no matter how you integrate it. I really like Codespaces; that's a cool thing. |
**Brian Douglas:** It's really cool. I didn't think even connecting my local environment to then leverage Vim -- because I haven't set up my vim config, because I've used the Vim bindings in VS Code, which is actually the best... I was gonna say IDE. VS Code is technically not an IDE, but a code editor that uses Vim bi... |
**Nick Nisi:** One cool thing about Codespaces is if you have a public repo called Dotfiles, it will set that up in your Codespace... |
**Brian Douglas:** What...?! \[laughs\] |
**Nick Nisi:** Yeah, it's pretty cool. |
**Brian Douglas:** You're teaching me... |
**Nick Nisi:** \[laughs\] |
**Kevin Ball:** \[12:01\] I must admit I have not tried Codespaces yet, so... I may have to go do that. |
**Nick Nisi:** It works fantastic. I've mostly used it as an iPad dev environment, but I really like it for that. So let's talk about another piece... Let's talk about maybe remote collaboration, and kind of how that pertains to development. As we've been working remotely, whether we typically did or not, the last year... |
**Brian Douglas:** Yeah. I use Codespaces in combination with Twitch... I did a lot of livestreaming on Twitch. It's a nice way to -- because I'm always working out of the GitHub repo, I already have stuff up and running, so that way folks who are watching me live can get context pretty quickly, just by me dropping a l... |
**Kevin Ball:** That's cool. |
**Nick Nisi:** Yeah. |
**Kevin Ball:** I'm so much more ghetto... Like, "Push up a branch. Okay, let me pull it down. Let' me screen-share with you. Okay..." |
**Nick Nisi:** I will say that I have used -- I've jumped out of Vim and into VS Code for some pair-programming, and that is phenomenal. With that live share plugin - it's so nice, being able to work on the same files... Or a lot of times I'll just have -- Follow to the Right I think is the option, and it just keeps th... |
**Brian Douglas:** I'm curious, are both of you normally remote employees, or did you go remote because of last year? |
**Nick Nisi:** I have been remote since 2013... |
**Brian Douglas:** Okay. |
**Nick Nisi:** But last year has been completely different, too. |
**Brian Douglas:** Yeah. |
**Kevin Ball:** I go back and forth... I had been remote for a few years, and I started at where I'm working now at Humu in late October, before the pandemic; late October 2019. I was in person, and I was in person for all of five months, and then we went remote... So kind of wandering back and forth. But I think what ... |
**Nick Nisi:** Yeah. And I was at a company that was fully remote up until last May, and then I joined a new company, C2FO, that are in Kansas City... So I'm working as a remote employee from Nebraska for them. And it's been really easy, because everybody has been remote this whole time. I'm hoping that the patterns th... |
**Kevin Ball:** Wait -- Nick, you got a new job? |
**Nick Nisi:** I did, yeah. A year ago. \[laughs\] |
**Kevin Ball:** Color me out of the loop... \[laughter\] |
**Nick Nisi:** I haven't talked about it too much. |
**Kevin Ball:** Are you no longer working on Dojo? |
**Nick Nisi:** Not too much. I'm doing mostly React stuff, but full-stack TypeScript. So still singing TypeScript's praises. |
Another piece - and we've kind of talked about it already - is terminals, and terminal-based work. Obviously, Tmux and Vim has been a topic, so let's try and stay away from that... But what about terminal emulators specifically? What's the ones that you all use? |
**Brian Douglas:** I am pretty boring, I use iTerm. |
**Nick Nisi:** Yeah, that's probably the most popular one on Mac, for sure... |
**Brian Douglas:** Yup. |
**Nick Nisi:** \[15:59\] It's easy to set up, easy to configure, and looks great. |
**Kevin Ball:** Yeah, I think I've just used Terminal. |
**Nick Nisi:** Really? |
**Kevin Ball:** I'm super-boring. |
**Nick Nisi:** Yeah. |
**Kevin Ball:** I do set up Homebrew or whatever -- the green on black coloring scheme, which both helps my eyes, and makes people who don't know how to code look at what I'm doing and go "Whoa, you're from the Matrix!" \[laughter\] But mostly because I'm used to it. |
**Nick Nisi:** Sure. I moved away from Terminal because it doesn't work well with -- the color scheme that I use is called Base16, and it's actually 100 or more different color schemes that are all based around these central colors... So you can switch out, and there's like a really cool command line; I just type base1... |
So I was using iTerm for that, because iTerm works totally fine with it... But I've dabbled a little bit with -- I don't know if I wanna admit this, to be honest, but I've dabbled a little bit with ligatures in my font environment... And if you use ligatures in iTerm, it actually kicks it out of Metal rendering, which ... |
So for that I've been - for probably the last year - using a terminal called Kitty, which is across OS, it works on everything... A terminal emulator that is all GPU-based, and it does some unique things with -- I'd be horrible at explaining what it's actually doing, but it works totally fine with ligature support, bec... |
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