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i'm a balance of both. i'm a fair balance of both because i appreciate, and i try to perform on a lyrical depth, like kweli.
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the main band, and orin isaacs was one of the main players. and what they were playing as a band is what influenced my style.
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and it just made it seem not so far away.
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white fang, chuggo.
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decided to be a win on his behalf, but because i got disqualified
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for saying some line about pus. i said pus like pink lotion or some shit and got disqualified, you know what i mean? i'd beat mans from freaking point blank at a car show battle,
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and he joined the squad. and silver fox was basically our dj sound. that's our dj crew within the fam,
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by rob taggart. so if you're not a part of the rob taggart talent agency, you can't book a stage for yourself.
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you know, i would've started that two years ago, man. pretty much when i started to work on just junior.
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i was just on my quincy jones productions, bringing in mad musicians and shit,
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and i was gearing up to drop every day.
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i don't have that type of richness. my richness is life forever. yeah. tell me about the significance of that to you.
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never have. i've always had enough to survive. money's always showed up when i needed it.
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and people telling me i smile all the fucking time, so i guess i'm doing something right,
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| 5.538462
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you know what i mean? and i need to find the strong person that said that, and i just found that miraculously. it just encompassed it all in a nutshell, i wanted people to know out the gate.
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O
| 5.5
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i wrote that record shortly after my grandmother died.
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so i wrote that at a dark time for me, but that was a little bit of a release.
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and she didn't even blink, i don't even know where she got the money. she just handed it to me.
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just because i'm a rapper that produces, don't expect a rap album that i produced.
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that's why there's some funk music. that's why there's some 90's r&b, some slower soul. i wanted that. but my divine time project that i'm leading towards,
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he was like, "yo bro, how come your monitor's red?" and i'm like, yo, i'm baited.
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we got booked to perform at celebration square at mississauga.
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we jumped off stage, heard the kids running over to buy albums and get their signatures and shit,
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and then supporting [inaudible 00:06:04], because you guys are making sure people get to find out about quality music and give them options and not just feel stuck with the fucking radio shit.
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itunes will have them and you can also listen or download them from...
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all right, well welcome jonathan brewer,
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being here, being the first ever guest on this podcast, the frito show.
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so the plan with this podcast is to...
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| 4.2
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the artist from, well, mainly the oslo art scene.
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in two galleries from the oslo art scene or people from the museums, or curators or... but not limiting to hear that.
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| 4.2
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i spend about half my time here, and about half of my time, either in new york or la.
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i remember the first time i came into your studio, and i thought, "what the fuck is this guy doing?" at that time, you made the most ugly paintings ever.
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or ugly in a very specific way, but i heard that a lot.
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so i met a couple of these painters who kind of were beyond descaling, but in a different kind of way. and so you reminded me of that.
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yeah, because you came straight from new york when you came to oslo i lived in new york for two years before i came to oslo
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from there. yeah.
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but you didn't have your schooling from new york, did you?
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i studied liberal arts. undergrad. yeah. so the academy was really my first art school.
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i jumped in feet first and you know...
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| 3.4
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84
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no. so as i said, i was really intrigued by your paintings because they were so ugly and you were
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| 4.8
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84
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yeah. i mean, you also looked like the typical painter. with all the paint on the floor, the big mess. and, i mean, it looked like.
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i mean, we're talking partly about a period in which i was still doing my masters.
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you know, as i see your work, you tend also to kind of work in i say almost...
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i spent six months in the studio, all day, every day. and then i spent six months at the coffee shop, doing nothing.
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julio le parc, he's got a... he's an old artist. he's working mostly,
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that is, as cynical. i think that it's true that you have to have that, but i also think that it's sometimes more
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genuinely interesting when you try not to have that, try not to have that logo.
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Male
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yeah, i completely agree with you but...
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84
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Male
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so reinventing yourself every year or so is professionally, sort of, disastrous, but...
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83
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no, i have a dual relation to that idea, because i
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like to try stuff i can't do, but the truth is, in reality, i do stuff i can do.
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and so even though i would wish to kind of push myself further in reality, often there is not enough time to push yourself.
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my big example for that is jack lohman who kind of works 19 hours a day. did his day job, did his writing after that and
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[crosstalk 00:08:46]. and i mean, in the end, it's hard to beat that. the benefits of labor.
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but also the limitations of labor i think, as you said it's you take the time to kind of...
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sit on a cafe and think, and read, and recharge, and...
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yeah, i've discovered plenty of times that if i'm really in the studio a lot and in the studio day after day, after day, after day, it's even hard to make small talk at the bar or...
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your shape, you don't fit my painting.
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and also that's a...
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oh, you're here. you're here for a couple of weeks.
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and so the last year you spent basically, well, you said you spent it in los angeles, but whenever i talked to you, you were in florida, you were in...
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i tell people i live in la, but it's sort of a lie. i've been in la about six months out of last year, but not straight. i go to la and i go somewhere else, and i go back to la for a little bit.
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the york motel and eagle rock. if anybody knows los angeles.
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lot of drug addicts and families. drug addict families.
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83
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so i've been living there and just to avoid having to commit to a lease.
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83
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yeah. raid projects is this great gallery space. they don't put on exhibitions that regularly, but [crosstalk 00:09:50].
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and after that, they stopped doing the shows, but normally it was...
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84
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that's a beautiful, it's really close to downtown and close to chinatown.
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84
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yeah, it's close to downtown, it's in lincoln heights. they're actually ending the residency
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in 2014, i think. i think they've already stopped accepting applications.
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but i mean, it's been going on for a number of years, and i think that the guy that's running it, the guy that's actually doing the day-to-day running it now- who is that now? jason.
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but anyway, i think he's moving on to something else, and i think they just decided they don't have anybody
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[crosstalk 00:00:34]. it's [crosstalk] together. yeah? yeah. it was cypress college in cyprus.
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well, that too. but also, basically my whole body of work started there. it started with one picture i took in-
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well, what i found most surprising was just how small the los angeles arts...
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i mean, new york is a city of 10 plus million people, los angeles as a city of-
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it's less accessible, so kind of the infrastructure, you have to get there by car. so i mean, there's a certain routine [crosstalk 00:01:08].
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you can discover galleries in new york. and in la, you basically have to go to the area where the galleries are.
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mm-hmm (affirmative). so, there's a little bit of a lack of accessibility, in that sense. as an outsider, you can't just...
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didn't seem like people were trying to glean a lot from them, about what's happening in europe.
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it's just a different kind of vibe you have to...
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yeah. but so back to you avoiding la. i mean,
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yeah, you got the residency and whole bunch of artists been there lately. and especially two years ago, everybody was going to [inaudible 00:01:41],
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too, one and a half years ago. yeah. yeah. i was quite envious. i want to go back. i love my los angeles.
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you look to any european city, of course they've been founded a lot earlier, but they've been rebuilt 20 times, as well.
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well, we've both been in detroit last summer, and i thought it was a fantastic city.
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i don't think so, but i mean...
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one thing i've been hearing about detroit, and it seemed that way to me when we were there, is that once you get that
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low, you can really completely reinvent yourself. and it seems like detroit's...
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no, but...
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i would love to be able to work in detroit and produce in detroit, because it's so cheap there. and then spend half time here.
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but isn't that also kind of...
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still new york and london, and it's going to be that way for a long time, i think. but i see that as a really...
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i see that as a good thing, though. i mean, i'm interested in being able to have a foot in two cities, and...
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you're three months there. you're three months there. you're three months there. and i mean, i think two studios is realistic. three studios becomes-
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two studios isn't even all that uncommon. no. i mean, a lot of artists do that. but
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still, i mean, i love the idea, and you were seriously considering, also, this just now, to kind of set it up more.
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| 4.2
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well, i mean unless some disaster occurs, that's what i'm going to be doing over the next year because i've been traveling for the last year, basically without...
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yeah. talking about traveling, you've just
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been in france lately, to visit our good friend.
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