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... as observer mission, observer. state this when it comes to elections-
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and that's the last one yet. why was this report-
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... without consultation with the department when it comes to our shortcomings?-
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Female
... and i must say if you go to section four, when it comes from [inaudible 00:04:39]-
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... but like from the cge [inaudible 00:04:44] something internal. so we've gone back to like join that. then, when it comes to female mutilation-
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865
Female
... i've gone to mean, but the section you gave, but i think...
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4.6
4.6
3.8
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Female
so i think that's will be important there too.
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4
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Female
... just with the grants. i think that has to be, i'm not going to speak to everything, that's will have to be investigated.
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because i know when it comes to social development, i'm to speak under correction-
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3.2
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Female
... here. i think it's 12 million or 40 million that is on social grants.
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3.6
4.4
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Female
no, it's 40 million i think, when you compare with the 49 million that we have in south africa. and that just very high because it means then we're moving towards-
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... a welfare state. and government is being proactive now. because-
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865
Female
... we were looking no longer at subsistence.
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Female
but we want to make women economically viable.
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4.6
4
4
865
Female
you look at the economics, even social development.
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4.6
4.4
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865
Female
i don't know because, look here, this is new so it's my last thing. the way i understand it, when it comes to rectification of protocol-
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4.6
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Female
... it has to come to parliament.
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Female
we have to take it through the national assembly. and i think we as parliament and parliamentarians have to give the approval.
A
4.8
4.4
5.2
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Female
thank you. that's all.
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865
Female
i just scanned through them and i think it will be important to read those articles you gave us too. and then-
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4.2
4
865
Female
and even take in experts when it comes. like-
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3.6
3.8
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Female
thank you. but i'm not going to ask that question now.
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3.4
4.2
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865
Female
now look here there's a question too, that i would like to ask.
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3.4
4.2
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Female
can i ask it now? fine, because it is to do with women. yesterday, the chairperson-
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4.2
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Female
... of the committee spoke to me about many problems-
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4.4
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Female
... that widows are having. and it do come up-
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Female
over to you cge. but can you come forward? who's making the presentation?
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you all look so far. maybe you can-
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chairperson, just bear with me for some time. i won't be too long.
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i just will ask, my very first question is are we as a country-
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Female
for the first time we're looking at something like this. shouldn't we want our country have one report?
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Female
because look here, there's many challenges in it. i'm looking at this one here.
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4
3.4
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Female
without consultation with the department, when it comes to our shortcomings.
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3.6
4.6
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Female
i like the way you're going to deal with the recommendation, but are there other recommendations?
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Female
and i must say, it's difficult to write such a report when it comes from not-
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4.4
3.8
4.8
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Female
... the department, like from the cge. because you said it was something internal, so we congratulate you on that. then when it comes to female mutilation-
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3.8
2.4
4
865
Female
... you spoke to traditions and culture and you gave us a section.
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3.8
3.6
4.2
865
Female
i can't remember the section you gave. but i think-
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865
Female
so i think that will be important there too.
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4
3.4
865
Female
because i know when it comes to social development, i'm to speak under correction-
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4.6
4.6
4.8
865
Female
... here. i think it's 12 million or 40 million that is on social grants.
X
4.8
5
4.2
865
Female
a welfare state. and government is being proactive now because-
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4
865
Female
but we want to make women economically viable.
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5
4.6
4.8
865
Female
you look at economics, even social development-
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4.6
3.8
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Female
... once it's rectified-
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4.6
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865
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... we have to take it through the national assembly. and i think we as parliament and parliamentarians, have to give the approval.
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it will be important for us to look at those challenges. because look here, we received the documents-
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3
4.2
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Female
... i just scanned through them, and i think it will be important to read those articles to gave us too. and then-
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4
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865
Female
... and even taking experts when it comes. like-
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now, look here, there is a question too that would like to ask,"
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"can i ask it now? fine, because it is to do what women. yesterday, the chair person."
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"of the committee spoke to me about many problems."
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".also. i don't want to say, some of the oversized arrived."
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3.6
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Female
".i have been bombarded by this kzn people for a long time."
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".i don't actually have an answer to them now."
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".it is a pity that, when we wanted to go to attend down until i had to go to."
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"the house chair, then he finally agreed."
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"chair, i also wanted to do recommend that, that we use the whole wednesday."
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"to draft report."
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"and, jeepers, i'm just thinking now."
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"we look at what those inputs are. but secondly, if, if i take into consideration what members have said now, there are two things: kzn, the kzn.
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so we were going to visit the center. we were going to get childline involved.
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it's going to be a combination of information and also looking at places. so that's kzn. eastern cape.
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we can check with tholisa whether the two days can be done. and for example, i'm thinking of the top of my head. if we look at one day round the,..
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the second day can be department of health.
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around death of children and babies. so besides visiting a centre, you can also have oversight to which department of health can brief the committee to say "this is what we're doing"."
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".so if the, if that is bringing up the oversight to more of what we need to do, then there is 3 so far; western cape next wednesday,
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the eastern cape two days, one of it is around the justice centre and the second
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[inaudible 00:02:13] cape and cape then this term. because again, tactically, it will cut into your time as to, we you want to come here to report on particular issues.
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there is a victim empowerment center for women in uitenhage too, you know, because.
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to find out what are you doing about these things? and even when it comes to the baby,
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she went overseas and then once she was overseas, then the countries ask her.
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4.4
4.8
864
Female
how do this work that we can build these centers too?
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Female
so i think that was like a plus for south africa.
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4
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we should first put it to one or two parts, this part of oversights, this term,
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and then... all i'm concerned is that at least by the end of the year, we should have done something around oversight.
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we have the one this year and then in our first term next year.
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Female
it's especially because we must also remember, jefferson, next year is election year.
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that we, that we, that we actually do that in the first quarter."
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".miss out on the second quarter, but
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Female
thank you chair. you know, chair, i think.
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Female
i would agree because it's not also a matter of domestic violence.
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Female
all of these things and make double sure that it's all in the report.
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Female
if that is fine, then on tuesday after management,
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then she can request for debate in the house, you know, the 9th of august.
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Female
monday.yeah. so we'll have to have it either just before or just after us, but preferred leave before [crosstalk 00:04:05] preferably before so we can heighten the awareness and get the publicity and so on.
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4.2
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and then if management is fine with it, program will be adjusted and wednesday we can go for adoption.
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i want to just say that. can we try as members.
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a big, huge huge meeting of widows. so at that meeting, we agree that it should be.
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because, currently they have.
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if all provinces are not sure presented, so can you be.
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there so that we can build on that and then tell them the.the widows. i'd be very brief.
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apparently with those.
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experiencing a lot of problems, especially with regards to tax.
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you know, some of them,
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but this pensions have become.
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Female
such burden on them.
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you know, that's how we get tax when we receive our travel claims and all that,
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to such an extent that.
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rather not take it then to pay so much tax.
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