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[crosstalk 00:02:07]. they wanted me to speak a lot of the
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committee meetings, i was as i said, member of the multiple listing board for them three years
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[crosstalk 00:02:19] it's also back the far back now
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[crosstalk 00:02:24]. my grandfather, his father, his name was robert brought over from europe
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[crosstalk 00:02:33] the three shapiro's that would are around today
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[crosstalk 00:02:40] that was maurice dead, hike dead children both and
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[crosstalk 00:02:45]marez and jake.
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boston iron and metal was mara shapiro he was the wealthiest and he took the name because they all came over to boston.
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and my fathers had two
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[crosstalk 00:03:10] brothers and sisters who lived in boston, still do them there
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[crosstalk 00:03:19] children and children, children great-grandchildren
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[crosstalk 00:03:24] and the rest of them were all descendants in baltimore they were a whole family divided between the two cities.
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[crosstalk 00:03:34] the government sales were very important to the people in those days and as a matter of fact
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[crosstalk 00:03:43] they borrowed them when the shipyard business and that sort of thing.
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[crosstalk 00:03:48] my father died too young
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[crosstalk 00:03:52] he was 52 because that's when the big money was made afterwards. [crosstalk 00:04:01]
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my brother morton ran the business for a while, but then he died a tennis court
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[crosstalk 00:04:08] a couple of weeks ago or last week, i don't know. [crosstalk 00:04:16]
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they're all nice people more lovely people.
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[crosstalk 00:04:26] and the one on old court [crosstalk 00:04:28]
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i think our oldest and youngest were boys the rest were all girls. and maurice
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had four children.
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how would you describe your family life growing up, was everyone from your father's family fairly well to do or...
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[crosstalk 00:04:52] why don't you tell me about that and how that affect... how that came to play in your family?
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and the ,those who weren't accepted,
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were able to belong and join and form their own club which became their home.
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and it's only in the last, oh,
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i don't know how many years that the relationship between them has been very good.
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which is what? so
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are you saying that these were all german-jewish clubs?
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oh yes. there weren't any non-jews and would it [crosstalk 00:00:44] be beyond a certain degree
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to business, my mother was somebody's secretary than my father did [inaudible 00:00:53]an
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i can you remember them saying that living on cross street over the store.
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the street car can dr. motorman would wait until my father got there,
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before he pointing up, my father lived in
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east baltimore in a rooming house or a boarding house, whatever they called it, then.
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can you describe any of the stories you heard about a german and a russian jewish
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[inaudible 00:01:31] no. i can't remember, specifics of that gun.no
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mar..marjorie lees. i think his name is.
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and there are maybe 8 or 10.
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i mean, there are only a certain number of cities in the country that can handle a real estate convention is one of them the biggest,
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and san francisco, chicago, hawaii,
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new york [inaudible 00:02:22] new orleans
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you know, your major cities
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excuse me. and we tried to get to as many as possible. right. so who was
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[inaudible 00:02:44] there were six of us who went over for
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i guess, of these builders, not altogether.
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i guess we paid our own fair and we paid their hotels, but they hosted us as nicely as they could.
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to try to get people come in and buy or rent
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belt was in spain.
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we had a bull, the six girls and at cocktail hour, every hour, every night. no, that, so the thing.
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as a matter of fact, harry and phyllis
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are doing something similar to that
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in about two weeks, they're going to france.
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so if you know anybody who wants to run a bill in france, they're the ones that contact,
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okay. that later was illegal,
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and that could no be longer be any of those
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that didn't last too long, and i don't think wow.
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after i was in the business, of course, roland park, definitely guilford.
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i didn't pay much attention to that. and we didn't have many jewish people who wanted to go roland park. there you go for it.
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as a matter of fact,
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i don't think it had too much trouble. i know one case.
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yeah, but other than that,
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i guess it was petering out. the law was becoming tighter.
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i really, and even guests, no, i don't remember that.
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no, no. when i grew up,
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my family, we had no prejudices,
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whether it was color or religion or what. my best friend,
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when i grew up as a little girl, was a catholic who eventually moved to brielle, new jersey.
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i went with her when she had holy communion and i knelt
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at the pew.
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i never gave it a second thought.
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if she wants to kneel to christ, okay i'll kneel too, but it won't be to christ.
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we corresponded, the biggest mistake i made was not keeping her letters. we corresponded
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for about 70 years, at least once a
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year at christmas. and she was my oldest friend. one year i
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didn't get a christmas card and i knew something had happened.
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i called and i finally reached her daughter and she said her mother had yes, had died.
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i didn't go
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to my senior prom
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at forest park because i would
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only take a jewish man, a boy,
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and i just didn't feel like being bothered.
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i wasn't going to go.
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it bothered me. so don't go. why?
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what do you mean? i may have been, i wasn't embarrassed or cause i went with all good guys
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but i didn't know. there were five girls.
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we always were together. i didn't know their friends.
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they didn't know my friend.
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they were from 1925, 25 or 29.
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describe what forest park was like physically. how do you remember it?
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well, i got there the year it opened and it was a fun school. it was a good school.
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was it a pretty school? yeah. what do you remember about it? like gathering, where did students gather?
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no, i don't think so. i don't remember that. that wasn't an issue.
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i only asked that, cause i never, i don't think of it much as a jewish place.
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near pennsylvania between kerry around kerry street and full.
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it was, they were row houses, church across the street.
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so what did they do? did they own stores after that?
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do you remember any jewish rituals that they held at the house?
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yeah. he just, he just wants to remind us every now and then.
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