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south african voters don't actually know what local government is about and they don't actually know what they're voting for.
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i hope you're listening closely. what comes to mind for you. it's not meant to only be about feminism.
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won't be long babe, breakfast will be served as soon as i'm done with this-
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21 minutes after 10. my goodness, the learning's taking place here, i'm loving every second of it.
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we don't do enough soul searching, those of us who think that we are good social justice-
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for example, a lot of black men who are deeply conservative, who are very good on questions of race, and then suddenly, if you want to talk about gender issues or issues involving lgbt-
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someone who has a different kind of body, and it was more effeminate. so can-
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we don't check our privileges, even though we think we are the most amazing social justice activists.
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can i just add to that? for me, my identity sectionality, it specifically feeds to my understanding of-
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and meanwhile, time runs out and we haven't heard from the other voices.
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when dead white men write complicated things, we think it's beaut-
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tools for sewing, tools for sanding, tools for routing, tools for drilling, tools for joining.
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i think you realize that theorizing does not have an age.
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it does not have a look nor does it have a race, nor does it have a particular context.
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see as the purpose of feminism's today, and then related to that is, the conversation does sound very academic and theoretical. and obviously-
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we all living in an age of arising populism that sort of suggests, and also rising anti-intellectualism that suggested we-
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history. do not forget that women-
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Female
that is not a complex. it's actually if one listens to the explanations and so on. let me-
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just answer the first part of that question. what is the function of feminism? if anything-
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feminism, its function is to empower those who need it- ...
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which is why we can't be saying that feminism has always been the case. it's why i find it so problematic for someone saying, "no, i don't believe in feminism." and then-
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Female
no, but then they haven't even explained which feminism are you even talking to. even within the literature, there's first wave, second wave, third.
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Female
if you look at those different times in history-
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the women there had certain needs, but then again, then the next- ... issue,
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was who at that space was defining feminism, because then what was happening with the suffragettes-
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it was about the vote. but meanwhile, black women were still wanting to be empowered and to be taken out of slavery. so- ...
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Female
these are the issues then. so then again, what is it that women need within their particular moment in time?
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but then it begs the question within south africa, we cannot homag-
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okay, let me use much easy language. we can't be saying that all women are the same, all women-
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it's not about saying that feminism is just one thing, it's about rather just saying that-
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it must speak to the specific needs of its particular group of people at a specific time.
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we just keep it together. we mustn't tell anyone. so until today, that thing's still haunts me. and this year-
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she was torn and the guy took the money that she had.
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it just happens and it goes, and it ends there. you carry it until you go to the grave.
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thank you. i just want to say thank you to [tuli 00:03:50] for sharing that. and i think she-
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Female
i think for me, it's just tiring. it's just tired. just everyday tired. everyday having to almost put it on my happy face.
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Female
everything is okay. and then what makes it even more tiring is when you do-
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Female
when you're just tired of being just tired, and you just speak out and then the amount of anger that gets thrown at you-
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Female
that's one of the biggest things, why is it that i don't feel space?
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i don't feel safe to speak my pain. i feel like i'm constantly having to make people understand my pain and i'm tired of that. and that's where- ...
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most of my exhaustion comes in. just trying to make people understand my pain as a black woman.
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add to that, but then we should also be careful not to be playing the oppression olympics, "i have more than you." even men have to- ... also
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feel themselves having to check themselves, even black men.
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especially the idea, because you remember the problem here-
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.. is not women or feminists. the problem here is patriarchy. men also are dealing with their own being. they also have to assert themselves
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as men. and then that assertion... there's big issues about needing to create spaces where men can talk about their emotions, but also more importantly,
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encouraging men to, when they see these acts of toxic masculinity, being able to call their fathers, their brothers, out. their friends are telling them
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that, "listen here, this is the kind of stuff that puts our women in danger." so, in a sense, we must be careful.
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we mustn't say that it's just women who are hurting. we live in a very toxic,
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horrible society that is marginalizing people on so many different levels and that we mustn't, again, [inaudible 00:00:48]
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they must also be brought into discussion. they must also be made aware of what they are doing is also having danger, and not on themselves, but also on women.
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it was just being said about the society that we live in,
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about survival and it's very hard to survive in this society. ...
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radio stations that broadcast in african levels. when we feel that, you know what, this is a [inaudible 00:01:14]
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before i could do that, i have to think about the recipient, i have to think about the...
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i think that doesn't need to be explained. let's go to [trouvaille maselo 00:01:25]. hello.
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i'm not going to pick you up. big boys don't cry, kind of thing. ...
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Female
have a little boy in our household. but i am curious. it's definitely true that parents do treat...
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that's happened to me with boyfriends before, too. and i'm like, "why is there no response?"
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"oh, i haven't experienced that, so i don't know." well, duh, you weren't in my shoes, but it's called empathy.
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i don't know. in certain ways men are taught to be more aggressive and less collaborative and women are taught to work together and...
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these ideas are so powerful. there's the idea of self fulfilling prophecies where it's like, if you're told women are this [inaudible 00:02:12].
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you don't really want to grow up to not be empathetic, but it really does limit human potential, when you're saying, "you're this. you're that. you're not this. you're not that. you can't be this. you can't be that."
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we just take it as a fact, in a face value. so then you're like, "oh, okay. well, that's that. no questioning this." you know? but what...
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no, i know, but i mean, it's like [inaudible 00:02:37], just say how her textbook. are these textbooks that we receive doing a lot...
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... pointing at. you're either male or female and if you're anything in between, then it's not ideal.
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these are strongly held beliefs that are being passed...
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yeah. so something that we can all agree on is that personality really creates a person and creates the differences between people. not gender biologically.
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i've seen this happen in my own life. if i'm pissed at something, my boyfriend... [inaudible 00:03:14]
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you know? she did not know what she was talking about. she was being overly sensitive,
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and that serves a purpose to not really... ...
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Female
the equation. it takes it and puts it all on you. it takes your
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Female
voice away. so i think that, that really does serve a purpose, and that's why it's seen as negative.
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remember that thing that... this is interesting, because it's not even a boyfriend or a family member, but remember thing that happened to you, claire? when you...
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i pick you up at 3:00 pm. and i was like, that's just not okay.
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we had an agreement and i want you to uphold your part of the agreement.
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depending if it was like, "well, actually, i really can't get there." [inaudible 00:03:58]
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and i was like, "yes. i was upset. yeah."
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... all on you. it's like, "no. what's happening here is that you're late."
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yeah. i just called you out for not doing your job.
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if it had been the other way around, i bet that i would have been like, "oh my god, i'm so sorry." blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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i you had been a guy, he would have been like, "oh, sorry dude. sorry man." you know?
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i had an ex partner who used to say to me like, "oh, are you cranky with me?"
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[inaudible 00:04:33] just in a bad mood for no legitimate reason, who's just cranky. yeah. that's another way to de-legitimize someone.
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a way to minimize, once again, women's emotions, women's feelings and just disregard them as, "oh, women."
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... to me. oh my god. i just thought of the time that it happened to me. we were all traveling for work, this was my coworker who said that to me...
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we got back, i was just kind of obviously in a bad mood, but i wasn't saying anything to, i wasn't mean to any of them.[
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].yeah, i was minding my own business. i was just not in a happy mood. which i was okay with. first of all, it's a sunday night and i don't need to be working on it, but anyway,[
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].just increase in hormones. [crosstalk 00:00:20].by the way i was not on my period when this guy asked.[
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].and my response was i was just, fuming red and i was like, why?[
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].and he was like, "oh, i don't know. just wondering," oh, just wondering j dubs. okay.[
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]two days of the month, i feel slightly more down or a little bit more emotional than the other days, but also i kind of keep a record of-[
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].trying to guess whether or not i'm on my period based on my emotions, because that's really, really not fair. it's de-legitimizing your emotions,[
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].but you can, you should definitely be able to bring it up and say, "i might be feeling this way because of this," but no one should ever try to guess what you're,[
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]you're saying the "are you pissed?" thing. it's like just a way of not taking accountability for why you might be.yeah,[
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].it would be rude. it would be like sometimes maybe if you're having a cold, you would be really wanting to be at home because you're sick. and you are maybe being more cranky because you're sick.[
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]but, you still don't want someone being like,[
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] a coworker, or somebody with, they're late or like your partner, if they may be did something, said something that made you feel bad. you don't want someone being like, oh, you're just,[
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].but it was really interesting when you just said, "if it might be.[
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].because you know those commercials, the snickers commercials? and it says,[
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