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now this guy has been in receipt of support from the western powers, as part of his position.
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this guy was consulting with the syrians,
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with elements of the syria rebel movement,
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in terms of how they should basically carry out operations.
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we know that the turks have also been conducting some kind of training exercises.
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and there's been quite credible reports from sources like debkafile, which is an israeli private intelligence outlet,
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which has been confirming that the united states and
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britain and various regional powers like turkey, saudi arabia, and qatar have been providing training.
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british special forces are on the ground in jordan on the border,
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and have been actually providing hands-off advice as to how these guys should carry out operations.
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so there is a very concerted effort from behind the scenes on the part of certain elements
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of the military intelligence community in the west, specifically britain and america,
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aligning themselves with these key regional powers,
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which are trying to push forward the most virulent elements of the rebel movement, who basically are
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extremists from the factions,
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some of them with affiliations to al-qaida.
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and as we can see, rebel groups have already been armed
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by the united states. apparently there was one report from asia times,
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and elsewhere as well, that turkey had actually airlifted volunteers from libya
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into syria in order to support the rebel movement.
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we've had reports about jihadists from iraq flooding in.
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the elements of al-qaida and hamas and some other groups,
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are actually involved also in the syrian rebel movement.
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so there's some element here of the civilian government now becoming aware that this is clearly not a good thing, and they're slightly worried about it and made public statements about it.
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the question that we need to be asking ourselves is why is it that the elements of the secret national security apparatus has been
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basically facilitating these kinds of operations and facilitating these very dodgy connections with extremist groups who were supposed to be fighting in the war on terror?
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why are they doing that under the noses of the civilian administration?
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and i think that's really my concern about what's happening in syria, that there is a desire to control the outcome
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and there's an uncertainty as to what could happen. because i think before assad started to crack down on the protest movements in syria,
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there was this uncertainty within the west about where this would go as was with the case with libya.
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there was uncertainty about where this would go. gaddafi was basically one of our guys, he was a bastard, but he was one of our bastards.
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i think there was a decision that was made that something needs to be done to control the possible outcome in case gaddafi does become overwhelmed
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by the kind of popular movement and the rebel movement that was there into the rebel movement.
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and we started to see the support for the rebels accelerate even by nato intervention.
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i think it's the same kind of concerns of assad.
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why rock the boat too much? he's not that bad. we've
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been tolerating the fact that he did this and we've been tolerating his human rights abuses. we've still been supporting him with a police military training.
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so we have to remember as much as we might not like syria, ostensibly,
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we have been propping up his regime with military support as well.
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so the question is, why have the tables turned? why is there suddenly this desire to kind of pinpoint
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what's happening, beyond the kind of violence on the ground? and why are we supporting the rebel movement there,
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if we were kind of happy with the status quo before?
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and i think that's because there is again, an uncertainty about where this could lead and there is a desire to try and calibrate the violence, to control it
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and to be able to, in that way, control the possible outcome. i think they're not sure whether assad will fall,
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or whether the rebels might win. they're not really sure what might the outcome be.
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the other possibility is that there is a longterm game plan here, which is linked to very neo-conservative agendas.
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that's what just quickly, i was going to say that you could almost say that
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what's shaping up here is, you look at libya, you look at syria
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and look, actually, what's been happening in pakistan, is a new form of foreign policy strategy, which you could almost call the obama doctrine,
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which is very different to the bush doctrine, but it seems to be almost trying to achieve the same aims.
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who were basically quite openly calling for a series of direct interventions in large areas of the middle east to reconfigure the whole region.
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and all of the countries that we're now looking at, in terms of the prospect of either military intervention or there's a lot of chaos there. in the united states,
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we're looking at iran, we're looking at syria, we're looking at libya.
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we've already had iraq, we've got eyes on lebanon.
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all of these regions have actually been named as regions where we should be intervening in by neo-cons.
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so it's kind of strange that we find a democrat president-
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.. pursuing a strategy of response to the arab spring, which has ended up involving the united states some way or another
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in some of the very same countries that were highlighted by neo-cons as strategic reasons we need to be targeting to reconfigure the region.
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so i think there is certainly a possibility that elements of the defense and security establishment
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are very concerned by what the arab spring might mean that, this is something that took them utterly by surprise.
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and this has dovetailed, i think, with some of those neo-con elements within the defense establishment who are proposing this idea that, "look
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at some point or another, in order to control events in the middle east, we are going to have to intervene in these regions and really reconfigure the power structures across the region in order to benefit israel
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and also benefit the united states in order to keep hegemony."
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well, the uk has always kind of played a subsidiary role
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from a defense perspective to the united states,
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going back to shortly after the second world war.
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when if you look at the declassified foreign office archives.
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well, this is really where it becomes difficult because if you look at what happened in libya,
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but from the perspective that has already always driven u.s. foreign policy, which is
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the last decades and the policy has been, "we're not really not bothered by the fact that gaddafi is a dictator."
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until the people started taking to the streets. and it was very clear that-
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finding as many potential justifications and complex legal reasons for why they don't need to actually do anything.
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and in fact, justifying their relationship with mubarak. i mean, hillary clinton's, while things were kicking off,
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we support the mubarak government and basically just lauding everything that was going on and turning a blind eye effectively.
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purely when they realized that this guy's not going to be able to maintain power.
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and that was the point where you could see that things were a little bit uncertain. it wasn't clear, we hadn't really made a clear decision,
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but what i can say we were definitely worried about was a longterm conflict in
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libya, who basically run the country by the gun.
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and that would mean that a significant source of supply onto the world oil markets would be destabilized.
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so it was like, "let's make sure that we get that all production secure and get it back on the market."
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disturbing neo-con doctrines that came out of israel in the 1980s.
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for example, there was a strategy document, strategy article published in a magazine that was published by the world zionist organization in the eighties
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talking about a longterm israeli plan for how the middle east should be reconfigured
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with a neo-con kind of bent.
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even breaking them up into smaller units so that they could be easily manipulated and allow for the expansion of a greater israel.
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the americans certainly, i don't think the americans bought into that idea as a whole.
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and so we've seemed to have this reversion to this idea that actually, maybe, and i suspect that what's happening in syria is actually that, "well, let's actually keep the melting pot going.
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let's keep the violence going because what we don't want is a strong syria, which is a strong ally of iran, which
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could pose a problem. and what we want is to just keep that place chaotic."
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so it quite what might well be that we're going to watch the syria thing deteriorate,
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and we will let it deteriorate, before we kind of make a real decision as to who or what we want to happen there.
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when i say we, i don't mean we the people, i'm talking about the west. or certain elements of western security apparatus.
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and what do you think is, i mean, how should, how should people on the... okay, what would you say to somebody in syria right now saying, "i want the western bombs to fall because
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this guy's a bastard?
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whether this guy's for real or not, i don't know,
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but i know for a fact from contacts that i have with people in syria who are on the ground, that that is not what they want
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on dissident news channels like russia today. and i don't give russia today any credence as a credible news source all the time,
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because they want to kind of demonstrate the need for some kind of intervention on their behalf.
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when they intervene, the bombs will drop on everyone. and this is what happened in libya.
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thousands of people were killed, not just by gaddafi, more just by even rebels who were just shooting anything that moved.
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