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... from tinkering with society, the way the technocrats have been doing for the last century? we know how to make a better human. we know how to make you think better. we-
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... know how to make you act better. we know how to make your cancer go away.
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some of this we do have the technology for. that does not mean that we should force anyone-
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... to take that technology. if she was searching out alternative-
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... treatments, she should be allowed to do that. why does she have to be subjected to what in the court's opinion-
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... is the best treatment? why does the court get to decide that?
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what do you think about this? give me a call. should cassandra determine whether she receives the chemo or not? or is she making a stupid decision-
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... and she ought to be forced to take the chemo? 303-477-5600 is the number for the studio.
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remember, you can always share your thoughts with me on facebook, facebook.com/grassrootsradiocolorado. love to hear from you. i'm chris cook, and this is grassroots radio colorado on klz.
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and the court took custody of her and has ordered her to get chemotherapy against her wishes. should she be allowed-
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... to refuse that treatment? or is the court right in doing what they're doing?
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this is such a violation of somebody's person. it's just absolutely astounding. we've got tom on the line.
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... decision, why is she not capable of making the decision of whether she wants chemo or not?
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that's exactly the point, i think. and i think that's a very, very good point.
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she doesn't have to tell her parents about any sort of drug stuff that she talks to her doctor about. she doesn't have to-
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... talk to them about an abortion. she doesn't have to talk to them about a myriad of procedures. but refusing treatment, then the court can step in and-
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... refusal. this would not be a decision that you take lightly. you're told you're going to die.
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that i don't know, and i have been trying to track down that information. i'm going to-
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... err on the side of caution, and hope that because dcf has taken over-
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... custody of her, that they are now responsible for her medical bills. so, one would hope. but it's-
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just from a gut standpoint, tom, what do you think about this?
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... 32 ounce soda pop. it's nuts. when are we going to take responsibility for our own actions and our own lifestyle?
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well, probably when the government actually lets us, and so far they're not. they're just getting worse and worse and worse. it's just absolutely atrocious.
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tom, thanks so much for calling into grassroots radio and offering those thoughts. tom's absolutely right. tom's absolutely right. she can go out and get an abortion without telling her parents.
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she can make all sorts of grown-up decisions before she's 18 when it comes to stuff like that. but this obviously carefully considered-
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... refusal... this would not be a decision that you take lightly. you're told you're going to die.
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but she still refused to get the chemo, because it's hell. it's absolute hell. and going through that is an atrocious-
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... experience. so if she chooses not to subject herself to that-
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... why does the state think it has the right to torture her this way?
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i cannot imagine how much more wrong it could be to force the will of the judge over her own judgment.
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i'm not going to find it. nbcnews.com, from today, it was by a guy named arthur caplan. he's apparently a bioethicist.
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... an ounce of ethics in my mind. the primary goal in this case is to save a young life. this is a disease where medicine can do that. admittedly, the treatment sucks-
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... but it works. i hope when judges hear this case thursday, they tell cassandra that she needs to get the chemo.
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she has, or she ought to have the freedom to state what is and is not done to her body. i think that is the-
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... bottom line. and just because you and i think we know better, it's still not our decision.
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freedom doesn't mean anything unless we have the freedom to make what you and i think are stupid decisions.
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freedom doesn't mean anything unless we have that.
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freedom doesn't just mean that we get to go all the places where they tell us we can go and do all the things where they think it's okay-
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for us to do those things. freedom of speech is not freedom to talk about the weather.
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freedom means nothing until you get to the extremes. and if we don't have it at the extremes, we don't have it anywhere in between either.
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got kayda on the line.hi.kayda, welcome to grassroots radio. what have you got for me?
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well, a couple of comments. first of all, i'm kind of on a campaign to replace the term, "the government" with "the politicians". it's the politicians who are doing this-
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and it's wrong in every way.i cannot imagine how much more wrong it could be to force the will of the judge-
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... over her own judgment.right. right. i agree.yeah. that's atrocious. i will endeavor-
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because have a really great point there, kayda. it's not some nameless, faceless entity. these are actual people who are doing this to actual other people.
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right. right. that's an excellent point. kayda, thanks so much for calling into grassroots radio. that's unique. i had not heard that before, but that is a good point. that's an excellent-
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... point. the judge sits up there and substitutes his judgment for this young woman's-
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... substitutes his thought process for hers. he negates her humanity. he negates her freedom. he negates her-
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... individuality. he negates her individual rights by saying, "i know what's best. you're going to do what i tell you to do."
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every tyranny on this planet that we have ever seen, that is the basic thought process behind it.
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"i know what's best. sit down, shut up and do what i say."
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you see it all over the place. we see it all over the place. we see it here, in colorado-
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... when they tell us about renewable energy mandates, or red light cameras or internet sweepstakes. let's talk about that one real quick.we've got a friend-
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... a friend of grassroots radio, a guy named trey franzoy, who owns an internet cafe. and they run internet sweepstakes in there for-
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... free hours on the computer, and so forth. but it's an internet cafe where you can go in and do stuff like get your resume put together, apply for jobs, that kind of thing.
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and they're now running a bill, dropped yesterday, to close those down. it's a marketing ploy.
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he should be allowed to market his business the way that he wants to.
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and that's bottom line. it's his business, he should be able to market it. but big gambling, the-
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... gambling entities up in the mountains, have decided that they think this is gambling. and so they're going to substitute their judgment.
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she lives her life. she deserves the right to choose what treatments she receives. if she wants to pursue-
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and again, yes, this is an extreme case.
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life and death, there's a border for you. it's not until you get to that point that you are actually testing-
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they make excuses that she's not mature enough to make these decisions. they make excuses that, of course, they are much more mature and much better equipped to make these decisions for her.
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she does not own her body. she does not own her mind. the government does. that's tyranny. i want to lighten this up a little-
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... after the break. and remember if you miss any part of this show, you can get the podcast at grrc.podomatic.com. you can also download that podcast.
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you can't do that. you have to recognize it, call it out for what it is. if you want to be a tyrant, fine. be honest about it. that's all i'm asking. okay?
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don't couch it in these compassionate terms. don't sit there and tell me that you're doing it to save a life. you're doing it for all the right reasons, so that makes it okay.
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you're still taking away someone's rights. you are still taking away someone's rights. you are still substituting your judgment for theirs. if you're going to do that.
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we're going to do the compassionate thing. forget it.
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forget it. you're reducing liberty. you're reducing freedom. you're taking away someone's right to choose.
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each of these stories with a category, so that i can find them later. i have one category that says, "i don't even know what to say." that's the tag that i put on this.
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what drives me nuts about this? brian moylan in time, again-
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every single uncomfortable feeling, they will subscribe to something that makes-
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it's a systemic problem that needs to be addressed, probably, with government grants.
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howard, welcome to grassroots radio colorado. what do you got for me?thank you.
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yeah, you've stepped on a nerve with the terri schindler situation. i called her schindler because that is her maiden name. and i won't even-
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and so, with that being the case, jeb bush had the chance to step in. and what happened, and i'm going to say it, i got to say it-
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and schindler, you know, similar said "i want," and she said it so loudly that the police and-
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the parents had her. they put her in front of a window next to a plant, have a cat crawling on her, and she could live her life out. but-
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this is worth a thousand word article. this is worth calling attention to people about-
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you have got to be kidding me. this was probably, unfortunately, funded by a grant at somewhere along the line-
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thing that is pointy and long is a phallic symbol. every single thing in life that happens to them that they do not like is the result.
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and she puts this in time magazine and time magazine publishes. it's even worse.
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thinking about this. this is so insane. here, it gets even worse, okay? so she's worried about the lines ...
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because she might have to wait in line while she has to go pee, which is, as she put it-
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i'm going to just going to read this paragraph to you because this is insane. "in the meantime, the male centerdness of our-
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... their options by for example, peeing "like a man" on the other hand, attempts to encourage men to emulate-
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she really put a lot of thought into this, horrifies many people, horrifies many people.
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let us know 303-477-5600. i'm chris cook. and you're listening to grassroots radio colorado on klz 560.
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... of one year of tuition fees, room and board at georgetown is about $61,000. median household income in the united states-
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... is $53,891. i think she's maybe got a little bit of privilege problems here. this chick has them.
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you want to look at what dangers are of privilege, right here, right here. living a life of comfort like that-
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... means that you do not tolerate any sort of obstacle. you do not tolerate any sort of uncomfortableness, refuse-
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... must be sexism, must be the war on women, even if it is the result of simple biology, even if it is the result of-
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... choices that women make for themselves, for example, leaving the workforce to raise children. but they continue to incorporate those statistics in-
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... so that they can pull out their false statistic that women are paid 77 cents for every dollar that a man makes.
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... makes this point. and i thought this was a really good point. sexism implies malice towards women.
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that requisite mens rea that says, "i'm going to get that person."
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they'd rather be getting back to whatever the heck it was that they were doing, like watching the game or being at the concert or whatever. they're waiting, probably holding her purse, standing outside the-
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excellent point. very excellent point.
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