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so if you actually participate in a token generating event,
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so that's why we do not regulate a,
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participation in a token generating event. under the anti money laundering legislation,
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you have this investor interest approach.
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so in a way, the test is a little bit wake
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how you apply, how we test in order to define whether or not it falls under the security regulations or not.
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and that makes it difficult to decide whether or not your token you generate is now falling on the securities law or not in switzerland.
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and that's the reason why the assessment is easier and it actually provides you more legal certainty.
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and i think this is the advantage we have in our jurisdictional environment.
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that's a good question. if we do a token generating event, we-
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... always consult our us legal team, and there are some token generating event which we would say, okay.
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so if you donate something to a foundation-
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... and this is a mandatory audit-
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... that's the reason why you cannot use a foundation structure for transmitting funds.
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and you can only use the funds according to purpose, controlled by an audit company and by supervisory authority.
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so you see, the concept is different. in the us-
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... it can be possible that the foundation is collecting the funds and is then transmitting the-
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you can do a lot of things. you can support whatever you want or-
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... one structure.it's not for every token generating event-
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... foundation structure. now regarding the-
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let's say multi jurisdictional reach and impact.
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one is how you structure a token generating event.
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so this is more like, are you allowed to distribute a token in this country.
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cp standards because.
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every token you generate has a different functionality. depending on the functionality.
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we can ensure that such a token generated at switzerland will be listable.
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which you go through to qualify the token generating events.
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and we will further enrich this now with our quality standards on the tokens which we want to generate.
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you have to also qualify the token issuance based on a tax level.
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interesting new things around these token generating events, which are not only limited to jurisdictional questions.
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so we will see a lot of developments in this space in the future.
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change the term from ico to token generating event.
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because ico is misleading. with the token generating events.
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we have a new type of community based funding which i think will have a huge impact in the future and will be a solid model as well in the-
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regulated in a way that it will be a sustainable development.
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which are a lot around in the market because for the overall community.
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a easy and efficient funding system would further enhance the overall development of such a blockchain community.
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it's interesting you use the term token generation event.well
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token launch. the two terms seem to be
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open financing system in their already existing legal structure. i give you example.
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to tokenize their shares. so it's a mixture between.
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we treat them as a security, and we use the efficiency of the blockchain system to create and design.
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this is pretty cool because you guys obviously were there right at the start, and now you're taking this model and applying it to existing problems beyond just what had-
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... been for a while this wild west of token funding events.
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that's pretty cool. let's look a bit at why switzerland has become such an important hub for this kind of activity.
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you see, first is the genuine decentralized nature of our government.
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we are fully, genetically decentralized.
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secondly, we have a high legal security, in an environment which you operate-
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... new pilot, you would need as stable as possible legal jurisdiction, which switzerland can offer.
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here again, switzerland has advantages. and then finally, from a tax perspective-
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... we have a room of maneuver in actually fixing our tax rates.
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we have 8% compared to 19 in the european area.
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it's a good breeding ground for these kind of activities.
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seeing a new wave of innovation coming in the internet space.
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... merge with ethereum. ethereum was the first attractive player in the crypto valley.
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and attracted a lot of similar companies trying to develop their product or their ideas on the ethereum platform.
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we see the disadvantage of its high cost to develop the business in switzerland, and-
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... they prefer to support this activity with educational events, with social events.
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maybe we can get back together and have another discussion.
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we will happy, because we will proceed now in developing our concepts in auditing and do quality checks for token generating event project-
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... crypto property, which could be an interesting topic to talk about because this is then real law and real jurisdictional discussion.
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because for that we need to qualify the blockchain crypto property asset class, and the process will be probably finished-
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... i hope this week or next week, and we will hopefully, hopefully get the final paper ready by august.
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i was wondering if there's anyone on you guys' team or anyone you guys can think of who writes a lot or might be interested in contributing or-
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... know it would be a good way to influence the rest of the legal community if you guys were regularly producing and syndicating content.
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we are now, our team will be 16 lawyers and tax experts and compliance expert doing nothing else than working on blockchain projects.
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.. to support [inaudible 00:06:40] because we are interested to share as much as we can because we have an interest in the community.
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place where you guys find good analysis on the subjects, and just blockchain legal issues in general?
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... issue is there are a lot of articles around, a lot of articles. but for us, they just touch what we already know.
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... kind of blockchain crypto property assets. so...
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we are much more already advanced in a detailed legal discussion. and what you find in the space and if you google around legal analysis of the blockchain is-
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well that's mildly disheartening, but it also just-
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so thanks for joining me guys, and i look forward to diving into this thing.
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so we were in the process of preparing the token sale for falcoin.
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and we realized we needed to have a platform to do a token sale that needed to be able to do accreditation for investors.
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simultaneously across all of these ways of paying, so-
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we realized that we might as well put in more work into creating a platform that other people could use because-
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it's a massive undertaking to build this whole thing.
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... useful for the entire network and a platform for projects to just make it something that other projects could use.
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... writing this complicated platform and so on.
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... meaning there's a ton of things that are suboptimal.
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like far from suboptimal, and sometimes downright extremely complicated and shouldn't be.
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and we think that there's a ton of value to be created there.
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yeah, sure. no, i'd be happy to talk about coinlist's product. and it really stems from-
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... a very well explained and easy to engage with interface and to be able to make these decisions on all the legal complexities and-
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so we came up with coinlist now. and so what it is it's this great place-
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... very focused on token developers, for them to be able to come and give a really great-
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... and the engagement there and being able to rally a community around what you're doing.
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but then also tune towards a more angellist type investment crowd. so you have bigger types of funds coming in and making bigger investment plays.
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we're really excited to build a platform that lets token creators really focus on what they should be focusing on, which-
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.. you shouldn't need to build out an entire platform and consider all of this compliance issues and their regulation incredibly deeply. we-
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and we're fortunate that we had to build this no matter what.
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... just make a great platform that everybody can use in the future.
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and you can also get a bunch of visibility directly into how the sale is going as-
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you can see how money that has been committed up so far and so on.
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again, every product has to build for themselves, and many times, it's kind of broken. we see some cases of-
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this is really complicated, especially for people that are not coming from the crypto background.
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... which is a very basic thing that's so far missing from a lot of these token sales.
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major events, where a single token sale slows down the entire ether network dramatically, and brings it down to a halt.
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you don't want the token sales to grind the ether network down to a halt just because it's occurring, right?
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