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... or distributed systems back into the mainstream as something that's really-
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... really important. i think people back then researched it because it was definitely an interesting topic of study-
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but i definitely think blockchains have had a huge impact in reinvigorating this kind of research.
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so a lot of people might have heard of definity, of tendermint-
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... ethereum's new protocols, bitcoin. i would say the focus for mechanism labs has so far been on proof-of-stake. or proof-of-stake, proof-of-work-
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started out with proof-of-work. and one thing we saw as a huge problem was this huge energy and efficiency-
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i personally don't know if mining is long-term sustainable. and when you, in general, think of building a technology that is scalable across generations, across people, across countries-
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what are other externalities of such a technology?
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i think that mining, in and of itself-
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... is not necessarily any more efficient than today's economic systems or financial systems-
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... anything, it's probably going to make all the systems that we've built and optimized over the years more inefficient.
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i think we need to be building something that brings out long-term sustainability and probably is way more efficient than what we have today.
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... proof-of-stake. and i think proof-of-stake was put forward as one of the very earlier models that-
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these are all newer ideas and newer concepts. so that's why mechanism labs chose to focus on proof-of-stake.
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yeah. so i guess one way of thinking about any of these consensus mechanisms is when you really say consensus-
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... which is how do you prevent people from creating multiple identities?
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and the second part is, how do you actually come to agreement, but wean the people who have been chosen to come to agreement-
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yeah. yeah. the actual part where people come to agreement is still-
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you have no concept of probabilistic finality.
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... goal is for all honest nodes to come to agreement on the same view of the network, versus in blockchains-
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... you have this concept of all the nodes may, with a high probability, come to a common agreement of what the network looks like.
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yeah. so these are the traditional ways of coming to consensus. what bitcoin uses-
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... is secretly mining the longest proof-of-work chain-
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the moment that they come out with the longest chain-
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... with bitcoin, you have this ability for anyone in the world to be part of the bitcoin mining community to join and suddenly join the-
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and in order to have these additional properties, you have to trade off some things-
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so you don't necessarily need a blockchain to be the most efficient application.
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exactly, and also, i don't know if bitcoin would be long term sustainable and would be a certain fallback.
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proof of stake seems like a really interesting concept.
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so could you define proof of stake and differentiate it to proof of work?
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to be part of the consensus of that network.
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you're incentivized to act in an honest manner in order to have the value of your coins appreciate or-
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if you act dishonestly, the value of your coins go down. versus in proof of work-
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[inaudible 00:01:17] or at least that was satoshi's idea, but-
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yeah, i guess the broad categorization that a lot of people use is chain based or bft based.
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pbft stands for practical byzantine fault tolerance.
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applications where it might have been extremely valuable and it's only just now that they've suddenly found this highly financialized purpose that achieved all of this renown.
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i would definitely say that was quite the case.
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just like if you look at other cryptography or other research that was going on, zero knowledge proof-
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if i'm not mistaken, and it's only very recently that the applications of it are coming to light.
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was the different types of proof of stake protocols.
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yeah.that from memory, i think that was the first proof of stake consensus protocol.
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it seemed a lot more primitive and there definitely was a larger possibility of attacks on those early protocols. like the idea of stake grinding attacks where a minor could-
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basically go back in time and try different possibilities of what block would give him the chance to be the block creator for the next round.
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and that was a huge problem with these early protocols.
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and so this is what was happening in 2014 then.
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and they gave rise to different protocols that we see today.
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and then you have like tendermint, which basically doesn't use randomness at all.
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if you have less than a third of the stakeholders or a third of the voting power malicious.
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or malicious, then even those 10%.
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and it's definitely only going to be something that we can realistically expect to deal with-
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and i guess all of the projects that we wrote about in our paper are projects that i'm excited about-
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i'm also really, really excited about proof of storage.
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yeah, so verifiable delay functions are basically, the idea behind them is in a general commit reveal scheme-
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and then you send another message to reveal the value that you commit it to.
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but with a vdf, what you can essentially do is just make a commitment and then the reveal happens automatically after some amount of time.
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but the computation it takes to get the value that you committed to takes some amount of time.
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identifies the problem and just to complete ludicrous nature of it.
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i'm going to rerecord an interview with singularitynet.
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which is essentially a two-sided ai component marketplace and i've just recorded in it.
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not adult industry related at all.
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but they're beholden to large distribution services and also large payment processing services.
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silos of control. then you can really bring all of the value that make those businesses profitable and put it into the pockets of the people on both sides.
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this live cam seems like a great use case for payment channels.
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the embedded discrimination that's in the financial system against the adult industry and-
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right? that's a blockchain. it's inclusive and permissionless and-
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because once we have most of the commerce of the adult entertainment industry running on spankchain and on ethereum-
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then we don't need to deal with the censorship that is imposed by the payment processors and the banks that they serve.
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i also am really excited about spankchain because we're not industry adjacent-
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i'm a part of the adult industry.
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so many people want to work alongside of adults.
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in the space that we're working in, and that's one of the biggest things because so many payment processors are ashamed to be associated with us or it goes against their-
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their terms of service or code of ethics like jp morgan chase closed down adult performers.
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but you can't do individual transactions because-
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i can go to any city in the world and be recognized on the street.
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south america. it's almost, it's actually scary.
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such as they don't want it to show up on their bank statements.
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or, they don't want it to show up in the mail.
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and with blockchain technology it can be semi-anonymous.
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i think with that, we would be giving more money directly to the people who are producing the content.
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which would not only benefit us.
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or given the opportunity to explore it in a-
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because the obstacles themselves attach that stigma.
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last thing you want is someone to know about it.
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and we hope that it's more generally accepted and-
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we think that there's like a guilt and shame bubble.
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people are the ones who suffer the most under the discrimination.
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everything trickles down into the sex industry, as well.
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so, these payment processors unfairly target-
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these already oppressed people, like trans women have a hard time getting on cam sites or clip sites because there's not a category for them.
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it's either straight women or gay men.
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what percentage of that market do you think you can capture?
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this is intended to be a play for domination.
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so what we have to do is survive long enough that we make that future happen.
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it's taken from performers and given to the clip sites that they host their content on.
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H
4
5
4.4
800
Female
Train
like a very popular site, manyvis.com takes, i think-
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3.8
3.6
4.6
800
Female
Train
the marketed price of a product.
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U
5
3.4
4.4
800
Female
Train
so you're getting down to a third of your actual economic value.
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X
4
3
4.6
800
Female
Train
it's only five cents, so, we're literally working for nickels.
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X
3.8
4.2
4.6
800
Female
Train
there has been no breakthrough in innovation.
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