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[inaudible 00:05:56] qualified installers, fast enough. how can we train-
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... people, right here, in silicon valley, that they're one of the most expensive labor markets in the country-
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so grid alternatives is just a really amazing model-
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... expanding markets. so what grid alternatives, essentially, does, is that they will allow for people to come and volunteer on actual worksites-
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... and allow for a really speedy training process.
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... out and having a job, but really instilling people with the right resources-
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you know, it's interesting that the model we have in the us, and we've been pushing everybody to go to college and-
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... for example, in germany, is they have a really good vocational training [inaudible 00:06:36]-
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"gee, maybe i should be an electrician or a plumber." and it's like, "no, no, no-
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... and be an executive and things like that. and so i didn't do that-
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... environmental interest, and really want to change the world, as opposed-
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you know, i'm just looking for the highest-paid electrician job that i can get.
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[inaudible 00:06:54] are turning inside to find a job that has some sort of purpose or meaning. and when we're going into this crisis, i think that the most-
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... labor industry, in the country, is solar installers.
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... renewable energy, is that we're going to be able to employ so many people, because they require people to, constantly, be tuning them up and cleaning them. and-
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... also, they're community-led. so you're going to get people who are from those areas, working-
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... really a compelling need for us to reduce costs. i mean, that's kind of what i've been focusing on since-
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how do we have that $60,000 solar system? get it down-
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... about 20,000 now, but we want to, still, get it down below 10, and then-
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... really, really pays off. but how can we reconcile the fact that, when there's a lot of demand for jobs, the price-
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... goes up. so how do we reconcile that increase in demand, increase in wages, with having to reduce the cost so that everybody can afford it.
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... be a lot of demand, and a lot of need for solar. and just by virtue of expansion, the cost will go down.
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and, also, the other side of it, is that it's important right now, that part of the just transition, that we're looking at, is not necessarily all about transitioning.
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... mentality of constant growth is not going to be sustainable.
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i mean, the expectation that our economy will continuously grow has put us in the situation right now, where we're-
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... facing climate catastrophe. so we need to start making sure that the emphasis is more on the person.
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i think part of the just transition is making sure that we're actually valuing people's lives more than we are profits.
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... economy to continue to grow at, just call it, 2%.
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... influence our partisan political system. how can we, as-
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yeah. it's a really interesting and good question.
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in america, right now, one out of five americans hear about global warming more than once a month. and a quarter of americans never hear about global warming.
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and the other thing that's really exciting and interesting, is that there is a study done at yale, that saw that if 3.5% of-
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... in public support. so, active supporters, which means people who are voting, going to the streets, talking about-
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... the thing we called relational organizing. and that's making sure that one of the best ways to, actually, grow a movement, is talking to the people you work with-
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... because when we see all these massive protests on the street.
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when you see a protest, there's all these underground-
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... growing up in saratoga. it was this expectation of going to college and having everything-
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after going to college, i think that things became more confusing because the pathway to just-
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a safe feature or even just like a comfortable feature was not a reality for me.
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and so i started getting more politically active in realizing that there's a huge gap between what the public wants and what politicians are doing.
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i started getting involved 10 months ago. i started-
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i went to the protest outside nancy pelosi's office and that's when i was first introduced to sunrise, and sunrise-
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is really incredible because of first of all, how successful they've.
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the dnc never had a dedicated climate debate, but they did pressure the politicians to have their own debate with cnn, which is-
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hey, that's all the time we have on this week's energy show. thanks kylie for joining us. and thanks to all-
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-any of today's show, you can always go to our website at cinnamon.energy and listen to the podcast.
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the more topsy-turvy the world outside becomes, the more we can see the importance of a stable place to live and that housing and health are often the same.
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year old landscapes and upwards of 65,000 years of continuous human habitation.
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welcome to a very special forum. it is terrific to see a full room. thanks a lot for coming.
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we are celebrating the launch of a video series tonight.
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patient housing, our host, and it's full member co-ops
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and all the more so i think in the context of the systemic and cultural shifts we need to explore in these changing times.
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called her to ask if she thought it'd be a good idea if i brought the transitions film festival to perth, it's a pretty prominent film festival in-
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in the east. she said, not only did she think it would work, but she'd help me do it. so we did it together and in turn a bunch of co-ops
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ops backed it in, but it's to say that we clearly believe in sharing powerful stories and that film is a great way to do it.
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and not only that, but we believe in sharing powerful conversations like the one we will go on to share tonight. now, the first person i'd like to introduce to you is jasmine palmer.
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[inaudible 00:02:16] development, a melbourne-based co-housing community developed by nightingale.
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designing groups of inner city housing for future resident collectives and raising her daughter within one such community, she undertook doctoral research asking the question
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why does high quality citizen led infill housing occur in other countries, but not in australia?
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now anthony taylor is a policy officer, as you've also heard at the business council of co-operatives and mutuals.
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that's the peak body and voice for co-ops and mutuals in australia. i can tell you that otherwise he's pulled off a minor miracle in the modern age and has almost zero stockability.
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online, not even a bio on the bccm website.
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so my only other point of reference is that he was brilliant to work with when we did bring the festival, the film festival over to perth last year, he was my contact cause the bccm.
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[inaudible 00:03:16] shooter is chair of cooperation housing, and he's been living at first free mantle housing collective with his partner and daughter for 12 years.
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one quarter acre block is very isolating apart from which it's unaffordable for so many people. i think the first free mantle housing collective co-op model works well
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two multi award-winning medium density projects was instrumental in [inaudible 00:03:43] journey. the first was called genesis where she lives with her husband in a straw bale home they-.
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they built together, and the other is a community development called deciding [inaudible 00:03:54] often hears the remark we need more of this.
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[inaudible 00:04:01] and then go on to perhaps talk about why tonight was so important.
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when i think back, what got me into this place to start with is i guess when we moved to australia, because i come from the netherlands originally, i just looked at how.
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we do infield development here and naively, i thought, well, surely we can do that better. so that's when my husband and i decided to sell-
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the vision that we want to be, build a platform that we can grow the sector from, but i think that's why tonight is celebrating what we have. i think those bits
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[inaudible 00:04:41] all show such richness, and it's a privilege working in this sector to meet the people and to hear those stories almost on a day to day basis.
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so i think it's really important to celebrate what we have and at the same time then look forward to with the question, how can we build more of this.
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thanks, ocean and your personal story is so powerful too forward. just stepping into the bridge and doing while also spotting up that bridge needs to be a bit better.
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better for others. anthony, could i go to you next in a sense to take a step back from co-op housing and just look at co-ops more broadly
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let's not assume too much knowledge around what a co-op is and how it works and why it's important. so if you can talk to that-
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a little bit in general and perhaps a bit on the state of play, like where is it in australia, but don't forget also from you, what was your early spark.
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spark to get involved in this stuff at all?sure. and i have to do that because i'm-
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my internet profile.that's right mate, you owe me.yeah, i have to, how i got interested in co-ops was at union. i worked at a student union restaurant that was self-managed, so-
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i was interested in worker co-ops i guess first off and so [inaudible 00:06:00] here, so that's great. yeah. had an interesting co-ops through that and-
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and then i studied law and i remember and there was a bit of talk already about one of the things with co-ops which people don't really know is low awareness about co-ops.
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about different models like cooperative housing and that's part of what the videos are today are being made for is to raise awareness and, yeah, i remember going to-
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corporations law and asking my lecturer what can you tell me about co-ops? and they said there might be a book about charities in the library. so i was, yeah.
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yeah, i had an interest from i guess at uni that this job that i landed in happened to be in a-
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a place that was running, i guess, broadly on cooperative principles. maybe not all of the principals, now that i know all the co-op principles, but yeah broadly and that's what-
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what are co-ops, the co-op principles is one way to understand.
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what a co-op is, there are international principles that all the co-ops have agreed on and-
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and they control it democratically. so that means that all the different members, even if some of them are putting in more or less so like in a farmer-
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co-op for example, you might have a big farmer and a small farmer. they've all got democratic control to look at the bigger picture of what's in the interest of them as-
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people or small business people
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in terms of state of play of co-ops in australia, there's about 2000 co-ops in australia. co-ops and mutuals.
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as a member of rac. yeah. so most people are a member of probably multiple co-ops in this room.
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and so western australia and australia have a long history of co-operatives.
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at the book launch of the history that was at uwa earlier this year to celebrate the centenary, the uwa chancellor said he was surprised at how little-
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sector had been studied given its prominence in our society and economy. peter, are you surprised at that also and could i get a sense from you of what-
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i got interested in housing about 40 years ago when i was an apprentice and somebody needed somewhere to live after coming out of hospital.
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and then i read a report by a social worker, cheryl comiti. i don't know if you've heard of her, but she did a lot of work on homelessness and it struck me as how much home-
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homelessness there is in western australia.
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and i ran a house for homeless young people for about two years. that was back when houses were only $40 or $60 a week. it was a rundown dump of a house.
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house in west leadville, which i expected to see bulldozed when i went past a few weeks ago, but it was tarted up and looking very gentrified.
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