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2016/08/15 | 1,828 | 7,658 | <issue_start>username_0: Hypothetically, assume that you have access to infinite computing power. Do we have designs for any brute-force algorithms that can find an AI capable of passing traditional tests (e.g. Turing, Chinese Room, MIST, etc.)?<issue_comment>username_1: What 'infinite' means here could possibly be debated at some length, but that notwithstanding, here are two conflicting answers:
'Yes': Simulate all possible universes. Stop when you get to one containing a flavor of intelligence that passes whatever test you have in mind. <NAME> has suggested something [broadly along these lines](https://www.inverse.com/article/12838-stephen-wolfram-could-there-be-alien-intelligence-among-the-digits-of-pi). Problem: the state of computational testing for intelligence [e.g. Winograd schema](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winograd_Schema_Challenge) would then be the bottleneck. In the limit, testing for intelligence requires intelligence and creativity on behalf of the questioner.
'No': It may be that, even with infinite ability to simulate, there may be some missing aspect of our simulation that is necessary for intelligence. For example, AFAIK quantum gravity (for which we lack an adequate theory) is involved in Penrose's ["Quantum Microtubules"](https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140116085105.htm) theory of consciousness (\*). What if that was needed, but we didn't know how to include it in the simulation?
The reason for talking in terms of such incredibly costly computations as 'simulate all possible universes' (or at least a brain-sized portion of them) is to deliberately generalize away from the specifics of any techniques currently in vogue (DL, neuromorphic systems etc). The point is that we could be missing something essential for intelligence from *any* of these models and (as far as we know from our current theories of physical reality) only empirical evidence to the contrary would tell us otherwise.
(\*) No-one knows if consciousness is required for Strong AI, and physics can't distinguish a conscious entity from a [Zombie](http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/).
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: We're definitely nowhere near that level of AI; at best, high-tech solutions like deep convolutional neural nets can help with image recognition and some other algorithms can perform things like robotic movement adequately enough to be useful in some scenarios. None of this is even as sophisticated as the behavior of a flea, but no one refers to insects as "intelligent." It's exciting stuff that allows us to solve problems that human intelligence often has difficulty with (such as classification of thousands of objects, which would tire an ordinary human mind), but it's nowhere close to replicating our higher brain functions.
Also keep in mind that the Turing test is a poor test of "intelligence" that defies common sense. By the same extension, mistaking a mannequin for a human being in the dark does not mean that the mannequin is actually human. If it were a valid test, then we passed that way back around 1980 with programs like Dear Eliza which were coded in BASIC to regurgitate human speech patterns. There's just no need to come up with a sophisticated argument like Searle's Chinese Room to debunk it, since it's silly on its face; any layman should be able to see right through the Turing Test. If anyone except Turing had come up with this test it would not have received much attention. Turing displayed one-of-a-kind genius when it came to things like computing and cryptography, but like many other experts in such fields, he had a lot of trouble grappling with metaphysics and philosophy. Searle had more common sense, but his Chinese Room example is more of a rebuttal to the Turing Test than a test in and of itself.
What "intelligence" consists of is ultimately a deep metaphysical question, not a material one. For millennia, trained philosophers have had a lot of trouble assigning clear definitions to concepts like intelligence and consciousness. Until we can answer those questions definitively, using different sets of reasoning skills than scientists, mathematicians and computer specialists are used to employing (just look at how often metaphysics is derided in some of these disciplines) then we cannot say that we have achieved genuine A.I. Until we can define what intelligence is, we cannot say whether or not we've successfully built it; we've not only got the cart before the horse, but have yet to build the cart or see a horse. By the common definitions used in everyday speech we're nowhere near genuine A.I. No one calls cows or sparrows "intelligent," but our AI today isn't even as sophisticated as the mosquitoes that bite them.
That's not going to be a popular answer - I'll probably get a dozen downvotes for this, without anyone being able to adequately rebut my contentions, but it needs to be said. There's far too much irrational exuberance and gross overestimation of what we've achieved to date and probably always will be in this field. Historically, researchers in every generation have also grossly underestimated the computing power of the human brain; every decade or so, the estimates of the FLOPS and megabytes have to be drastically revised. We have a poor track record of even getting basic material questions about the human brain right. This clear, consistent pattern of biased overestimation of our success and the lack of any real definition, let alone a test, of intelligence is going to be a serious issue in this forum for its whole existence (assuming it survives the private beta period). We have a whole forum dedicated to a field we can't even define; we can't say for sure what A.I. really is, but we're adamantly certain that we're close to achieving it...! We cannot say if "brute force algorithms" exist when we're still groping for an understanding of what it is we're trying to force our way into. Certainly, there are brute force methods to solve certain problems, like Deep Blue does at chess - but we cannot say if that qualifies as intelligence or not. It is really not possible to answer questions like this without getting into deep discussions that immediately lend themselves to opinion and debate, which the Turing Test and Searle's Room are clear examples of, in and of themselves. Since implementation details of AI are considered by many to be off-limits here, we're limited mainly to highly speculative posts about tech that often doesn't even work yet (like Google's self-driving cars) and questions like this that we can't answer without first defining intelligence. This is going to be the root of a lot of problems here for a long, long time to come...
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Infinite computational power in the absence of training data implies nothing beyond the ability to solve equations. In order to implement a behavior, criteria of success and failure are essential. A small bootstrap loss function with an adaptive feedback loop allowing its elaboration, infinite training data, and AIXI or Solomonoff induction would suffice, in principle, given your premise of infinite computational power. In fact, it would occur precisely as fast as the input data rate permitted. In practice, such general approaches require exponential time and space, and are thus intrinsically quite limited in application, absent some kind of efficiency hack. (Where 'efficiency hack' probably encompasses entire sciences, industries, and generations of research, and the resulting adaptation doesn't look much like, e.g., AIXI at all, in the end.)
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2016/08/15 | 1,137 | 4,537 | <issue_start>username_0: Would it be possible to put [Asimov's three Laws of Robotics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics) into an AI?
The three laws are:
1. A robot (or, more accurately, an AI) cannot harm a human being, or through inaction allow a human being to be harmed1
2. A robot must listen to instructions given to it by a human, as long as that does not conflict with the first law.
3. A robot must protect its own existence, if that does not conflict with the first two laws.<issue_comment>username_1: The most challenging part is this section of the first law:
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Humans manage to injure themselves unintentionally in all kinds of ways all the time. A robot strictly following that law would have to spend all its time saving people from their own clumsiness and would probably never get any useful work done. An AI unable to physically move wouldn't have to run around, but it would still have to think of ways to stop all accidents it could imagine.
Anyway, fully implementing those laws would require very advanced recognition and cognition. (How do you know that industrial machine over there is about to let off a cloud of burning hot steam onto that child who wandered into the factory?) Figuring out whether a human would end up harmed after a given action through some sequence of events becomes an exceptionally challenging problem very quickly.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Defining "harm" and in particular, "allowing harm via inaction" in any meaningful way would be difficult. For example, should robots spend all their time flying around attempting to prevent humans from inhaling passive smoke or petrol fumes?
In addition, the interpretation of 'conflict' (in either rule 2 or 3) is completely open-ended. Resolving such conflicts seems to me to be "AI complete" in general.
Humans have quite good mechanisms (both behavioral and social) for interacting in a complex world (mostly) without harming one another, but these are perhaps not so easily codified. The complex set of legal rules that sit on top of this (polution regulations etc) are the ones that we could most easily program, but they are really quite specialised relative to the underlying physiological and social 'rules'.
EDIT: From other comments, it seems worth distinguishing between 'all possible harm' and 'all the kinds of harm that humans routinely anticipate'. There seems to be consensus that 'all possible harm' is a non-starter, which still leaves the hard (IMO, AI-complete) task of equaling human ability to predict harm.
Even if we can do that, if we are to treat as actual laws, then we would still need a formal mechanism for conflict resolution (e.g. "Robot, I will commit suicide unless you punch that man").
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: I think this is almost a trick question in a sense. Let me explain:
For law 1, any AI would abide by the first rule unless it was deliberately created to be malevolent, in that the AI it would understand harm was imminent but do nothing about or would actively attempt to harm. Any 'reasonable' AI would (try its best to) prevent any harm it understood, but couldn't react to imminent harm 'outside it's knowledge', thus satisfying law 1. Any AI that 'tries its best' to prevent harm works here.
For law 2, it is simply a matter of design. If one can design an AI capable of parsing and understanding the entirety of human language (beyond just speech), just program it to act accordingly, mindful of the first law. Thus, I think we can develop an AI that will obey every command *it understands* but getting it to understand anything and everything I believe is impossible.
For law 3, it rides in the same vein as law 1.
In conclusion, I think there is no philosophical problem with implementing such an AI, but that the actual design of such an AI is fundamentally impossible (understanding all possible harms, and all possible commands).
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: The paper [The First Law of Robotics (a call to arms)](https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.45.5646&rep=rep1&type=pdf) (AAAI-94), by <NAME> Etzioni, discusses the first Asimov's law, some technical issues it gives rise to (some of them are already mentioned in the other answers), and how they could be addressed (they propose a simplistic way to formalize the first law, but they don't claim it is the right way to do it). You should read it for more details.
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2016/08/16 | 1,284 | 5,456 | <issue_start>username_0: I'd like to investigate the possibility of achieving similar recognition as it's in [Honda's ASIMO robot](http://asimo.honda.com/downloads/pdf/asimo-technical-information.pdf)p.22 which can interpret the positioning and movement of a hand, including postures and gestures based on visual information.
Here is the example of an application of such a recognition system.
[](http://asimo.honda.com/downloads/pdf/asimo-technical-information.pdf)
Image source: [ASIMO Featuring Intelligence Technology - Technical Information (PDF)](http://asimo.honda.com/downloads/pdf/asimo-technical-information.pdf)
So, basically, the recognition should detect an indicated location (posture recognition) or respond to a wave (gesture recognition), like a [Google car](https://ai.stackexchange.com/a/1577/8) does it (by determining certain patterns).
Is it known how ASIMO does it, or what would be the closest alternative for postures and gestures recognition to achieve the same results?<issue_comment>username_1: It's not a difficult task, first of all you have to locate the body parts such as arms,head... you can do it using different approaches for example using cascadeclassifier or a well trained CNN.
After that you can use different techniques, one could be an ANN trained on the keypoints of the different body parts (this is the easiest approach) or a CNN (good approach but you need a lot of training). To indicate the location after you have determined the position of the head (and the eyes to) and hands, you can simply calculate the orientation of those parts, and then you can get a general position where those orientation are pointing to.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Just to add some discourse; this is actually an incredibly complex task, as gestures (aka kinematics) function as an auxiliary language that can completely change the meaning of a sentence or even a single word. I recently did a dissertation on the converse (generating the correct gesture from a specific social context & linguistic cues). The factors that go into the production of a particular gesture include the relationship between the two communicators (especially romantic connotations), the social scenario, the physical context, the linguistic context (the ongoing conversation, if any), a whole lot of personal factors (our gesture use is essentially a hybrid of important individuals around us e.g. friends & family, and this is layered under the individual's psychological state). Then the whole thing is flipped around again when you look at how gestures are used completely differently in different cultures (look up gestures that swear words in other cultures for example!). There are a number of models for gesture production but none of them captures the complexity of the topic.
Now, that may seem like a whole lot of fluff that is not wholly relevant to your question, but my point is that ASIMO isn't actually very 'clever at this. AFAIK (I have heard from a visualization guy that this is how *he* thinks they do it) they use conventional (but optimized) image recognition techniques trained on a corpus of data to achieve recognition of particular movements. One would assume that the dataset consists of a series of videos/images of gestures labelled with that particular gesture (as interpreted by a human), which can then be treated as a machine learning problem. The issue with this is that it does not capture ANY of the issues I mentioned above. Now if we return to the current best interpretation of gesture that we have (that it is essentially auxiliary language in its own right), ASIMO isn't recognizing any element of language beyond the immediately recognizable type, 'Emblems'.
'Emblems' are gestures that have a direct verbal translation, for example in English-based cultures, forming a circle with your thumb and index finger translates directly to 'OK'. ASIMO is therefore missing out on a huge part of the non-verbal dictionary (illustrators, affect displays, regulators and adapters are not considered!), and even the part that it is accessing is based on particular individuals' interpretations of said emblems (e.g. someone has sat down and said that *this* particular movement is *this* gesture which means *this*), which as we discussed before is highly personal and contextual. I do not mean this in criticism of Honda; truth be told, gesture recognition and production are in my opinion one of the most interesting problems in AI (even if it's not the most useful) as it is a compound of incredibly complex NLP, visualization and social modelling problems!
Hopefully, I've provided some information on how ASIMO works in this context, but also on why ASIMO's current process is flawed when we look at the wider picture.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: There is some research on this topic. See, for example, the papers [Robot Identification and Localization with Pointing Gestures](http://people.idsia.ch/~gromov/repository/gromov2018robot.pdf) (2018) and [Proximity Human-Robot Interaction Using Pointing Gestures
and a Wrist-mounted IMU](http://people.idsia.ch/~gromov/repository/gromov2019proximity.pdf) (2019), by <NAME> et al., where the human is assumed to possess an inertial measurement unit (IMU) attached to the arm
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2016/08/16 | 1,013 | 4,362 | <issue_start>username_0: For example, could you provide reasons why a sundial is *not* "intelligent"?
A sundial senses its environment and acts rationally. It outputs the time. It also stores percepts. (The numbers the engineer wrote on it.)
What properties of a self driving car would make it "intelligent"?
Where is the line between non intelligent matter and an intelligent system?<issue_comment>username_1: Typically, I think of intelligence in terms of the *control* of *perception*. [1] A related, but different, definition of intelligence is the (at least partial) restriction of possible future states. For example, an intelligent Chess player is one whose future rarely includes 'lost at chess to a weaker opponent' states; they're able to make changes that move those states to 'won at chess' states.
These are both broad and continuous definitions of intelligence, where we can talk about differences of degree. A sundial doesn't exert any control over its environment; it passively casts a shadow, and so doesn't have intelligence worth speaking of. A thermostat attached to a heating or cooling system, on the other hand, does exert control over its environment, trying to keep the temperature of its sensor within some preferred range. So a thermostat does have intelligence, but not very much.
Self-driving cars obviously fit those definitions of intelligence.
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[1] Control is meant in the context of [control theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_theory), a branch of engineering that deals with dynamical systems that perceive some fact about the external world and also have a way by which they change that fact. When perception is explicitly contrasted to observations, it typically refers to an abstract feature of observations (you observe the intensity of light from individual pixels, you perceive the apple that they represent) but here I mean it as a superset that includes observation. The thermostat is a dynamical system that perceives temperature and acts to exert pressure on the temperature it perceives.
(There's a philosophical point here that the thermostat cares directly about its sensor reading, not whatever the temperature "actually" is. I think that's not something that should be included in intelligence, and should deserve a name of its own, because understanding the difference between perception and reality and seeking to make sure one's perceptions are accurate to reality is another thing that seems partially independent of intelligence.)
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: To ask what makes a system intelligent almost begs the question 'in this context what do we mean by artificially intelligent?' which I think this what this question is really gearing towards.
From my studies, I've come to see that 'Artificial Intelligence' is a catchy term to use but perhaps misleading, and it conjures up images of these self-driving cars and robots that will take over the earth.
What I've found AI, and 'intelligent' systems moreso represent is an aid or a support that works *for* us, rather than one that works *because* of us... hear me out:
What makes the jump to an intelligent system for me is the step where the system begins to 'adapt / learn' or otherwise do things I didn't directly tell it to do. With the sundial, I measured and cut every inch of it by hand, and put it in a specific way to do a specific thing.
When a programmer gets into a car he automated, it may do some things he didn't directly program or maybe couldn't even expect (just one example: querying some database to see lots of people are driving somewhere, discovering a concert is going on there, and asking if the driver wants directions / tickets)
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In conclusion, an intelligent system to me is one that we build in such a way that it educates and supports *us*, rather than a system we ourselves 'educate' to do a specific task. Supportive systems that elucidate and adapt and act 'rationally' even when we didn't tell it what 'rational' behaviour was.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Intelligence is the efficiency of an action in serving some purpose.
Both sundials and self-driving cars are intelligent systems.
Anything that serves some purpose exhibits intelligence.
One thing is more intelligent than another thing if it achieves some purpose in less steps.
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2016/08/17 | 1,060 | 4,511 | <issue_start>username_0: We can read on [Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TensorFlow#Tensor_processing_unit_.28TPU.29) that Google built a custom ASIC chip for machine learning and tailored for TensorFlow which helps to accelerate AI.
Since ASIC chips are specially customized for one particular use without the ability to change its circuit, there must be some fixed algorithm which is invoked.
So how exactly does the acceleration of AI using ASIC chips work if its algorithm cannot be changed? Which part of it is exactly accelerating?<issue_comment>username_1: I think the algorithm has changed minimally, but the necessary hardware has been trimmed to the bone.
The number of gate transitions are reduced (perhaps float ops and precision too), as are the number of data move operations, thus saving both power and runtime. Google suggests their TPU achieves a 10X cost saving to get the same work done.
<https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/05/Google-supercharges-machine-learning-tasks-with-custom-chip.html>
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Tensor operations
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The major work in most ML applications is simply a set of (very large) tensor operations e.g. matrix multiplication. You can do *that* easily in an ASIC, and all the other algorithms can just run on top of that.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: ASIC - It stands for Application-specific integrated circuit. Basically, you write programs to design a chip in [HDL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_description_language). I'll take cases of how modern computers work to explain my point:
* **CPU's** - CPU's are basically a [microprocessor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardware_description_language) with many helper IC's performing specific tasks. In a microprocessor, there is only a single Arithmetic Processing unit (made up term) called [Accumulator](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accumulator_(computing)) in which a value has to be stored, as computations are performed only and only the values stored in the accumulator. Thus every instruction, every operation, every R/W operation has to be done through the accumulator (that is why older computers used to freeze when you wrote from a file to some device, although nowadays the process has been refined and may not require accumulator to come in-between specifically [DMA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_memory_access)).
Now in ML algorithms, you need to perform matrix multiplications which can be easily parallelized, but we have in our has a single processing unit only and so came the GPU's.
* **GPU's** - GPU's have 100's processing units but they lack the multipurpose facilities of a CPU. So they are good for parallelizable calculations. Since there is no memory overlapping (same part of the memory being manipulated by 2 processes) in matrix multiplication, GPU's will work very well. Though since GPU is not multi-functional it will work only as fast as a CPU feeds data into its memory.
* **ASIC** - ASIC can be anything a GPU, CPU or a processor of your design, with any amount of memory you want to give to it. Let' say you want to design your own specialized ML processor, design a processor on ASIC. Do you want a 256-bit FP number? Create a 256-bit processor. You want your summing to be fast? Implement a parallel adder up to a higher number of bits than conventional processors? You want `n` number of cores? No problem. you want to define the data-flow from different processing units to different places? You can do it. Also with careful planning, you can get a trade-off between ASIC area vs power vs speed. The only problem is that for all of this you need to create your own standards. Generally, some well-defined standards are followed in designing processors, like a number of pins and their functionality, IEEE 754 standard for floating-point representation, etc which have been come up after lots of trial and errors. So if you can overcome all of these you can easily create your own ASIC.
I do not know what Google is doing with their TPU's but apparently, they designed some sort of Integer and FP standard for their 8-bit cores depending on the requirements at hand. They probably are implementing it on ASIC for power, area and speed considerations.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: Low precision enables high parallelism computation in Convo and FC layers.
CPU & GPU fixed architecture, but ASIC/FPGA can be designed based on neural network architecture
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2016/08/18 | 977 | 3,615 | <issue_start>username_0: I've [uploaded a picture](https://www.imageidentify.com/result/0lkzuttdxipub) to Wolfram's ImageIdentify of graffiti on the wall, but it recognized it as 'monocle'. Secondary guesses were 'primate', 'hominid', and 'person', so not even close to 'graffiti' or 'painting'.
Is it by design, or there are some **methods to teach a convolutional neural network (CNN) to reason and be aware of a bigger picture context** (like mentioned graffiti)? Currently it seems as if it's detecting literally *what is depicted in the image*, not *what the image actually is*.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/akquMm.png)
This could be the same problem as mentioned [here](https://ai.stackexchange.com/a/1533/8), that DNN are:
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If it's by design, maybe there is some better version of CNN that can perform better?<issue_comment>username_1: You seem to be wanting some description of the 'style' of an image.
To make that work in general, I'd guess that would actually require quite a lot of pre-processing to present 'texture elements' (rather than pixels) as the basic features.
This is quite speculative, but one approach might be to use [Iterated Function Systems](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iterated_function_system) as a means of extracting these.
Whether 'spatial adjacency' (and hence CNN) is then the best approach to make higher-level decisions about these elements is (AFAIK) a matter for experiment.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Wolfram's image id system is specifically meant to figure out what the image is depicting, not the medium.
To get what you want you'd simply have to create your own system where the training data is labeled by the medium rather than the content, and probably fiddle with it to pay more attention to texture and things as such as that. The neural net doesn't care which we want - it has no inherent bias. It just knows what it's been trained for.
That's really all there is to it. It's all to do with the training labels and the focus of the system (e.g. a system that looks for edge patterns that form shapes, compared to a system that checks if the lines in the image are perfectly computer-generated straight and clean vs imperfect brush strokes vs spraypaint).
Now, if you want me to tell you how to build that system, I'm not the right person to ask haha
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: If I look at the image, I can kind of see a monocle as *part* of the image. So one part of this is that the classifier is ignoring much of the image. This could be called a lack of "completeness", in the sense used [here](http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~vision/VisualSummary.html) (a computer vision paper on image summarization).
One way to discover these sorts of failure modes is [adversarial images](https://plus.google.com/+ResearchatGoogle/posts/QoFzqQBeANN), which are optimized to fool a given image classifier. Building on this, the idea of *adversarial training* is to simultaneously train competing "machines", one trying to synthesize data, the other trying to find weaknesses in the first one.
Also check this page: [A path to unsupervised learning through adversarial networks](https://code.facebook.com/posts/1587249151575490/a-path-to-unsupervised-learning-through-adversarial-networks/), for further information about adversarial training.
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2016/08/19 | 5,878 | 24,341 | <issue_start>username_0: In a [recent Wall Street Journal article](http://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-next-for-artificial-intelligence-1465827619), <NAME> makes the following statement:
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Personally, I have generally taken the position that talking about emotions for artificial intelligences is silly, because there would be no *reason* to create AI's that experience emotions. Obviously Yann disagrees. So the question is: what end would be served by doing this? Does an AI *need* emotions to serve as a useful tool?<issue_comment>username_1: The answer to this question, unlike many on this board, I think is definitive. No. We don't *need* AI's to have emotion to be useful, as we can see by the numerous amount of AI's we already have that are useful.
But to further address the question, we can't *really* give AI's emotions. I think the closest we can get would be 'Can we make this AI act in a way a human would if that human was `insert emotion`?'. I guess in a sense, that *is* having emotion, but that's a whole other discussion.
And to what end? The only immediate reason coming to mind would be to create more lifelike companions or interactions, for the purposes of video games or other entertainment. A fair goal,
but far from necessary. Even considering an AI-imbued greeting robot in the lobby of some building, we'd probably only ever want it to act cordial.
Yann says that super-advanced AI would lead to more human-like qualities *and* flaws. I think it's more like it would 'give our AI's more human-like qualities *or in other words* flaws'. People have a tendency to act irrationally when sad or angry, and for the most part we only want rational AI.
To err is human, as they say.
The purpose of AI's and learning algorithms is to create systems that act or 'think' like humans, but better. Systems that can adapt or evolve, while messing up as little as possible. Emotive AI has uses, but it's certainly not a prerequisite for a useful system.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_2: I think the fundamental question is: Why even attempt to build an AI? If that objective is clear, it will provide clarity to whether or not having emotional quotient in AI make sense. Some attempts like "Paro" that were developed for therapeutic reasons requires they exhibit some human like emotions. Again, note that "displaying" emotions and "feeling" emotions are two completely different things.
You can program a thing like paro to modulate the voice tones or facial twitches to express sympathy, affection, companionship, or whatever - but while doing so, a paro does NOT empathize with its owner - it is simply faking it by performing the physical manifestations of an emotion. It never "feels" anything remotely closer to what that emotion evokes in human brain.
So this distinction is really important. For you to feel something, there needs to be an independent autonomous subject that has the capacity to feel. Feeling cannot be imposed by an external human agent.
So going back to the question of what purpose it solves - answer really is - It depends. And the most I think we will achieve ever with silicone based AIs will remain the domain of just physical representations of emotions.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: I think emotions are not necessary for an AI agent to be useful. But I also think they could make the agent MUCH more pleasant to work with. If the bot you're talking with can read your emotions and respond constructively, the experience of interacting with it will be tremendously more pleasant, perhaps spectacularly so.
Imagine contacting a human call center representative today with a complaint about your bill or a product. You anticipate conflict. You may have even decided NOT to call because you know this experience is going to be painful, either combative or frustrating, as someone misunderstands what you say or responds hostilely or stupidly.
Now imagine calling the kindest smartest most focused customer support person you've ever met -- Commander Data -- whose only reason for existing is to make this phone call as pleasant and productive for you as possible. A big improvement over most call reps, yes? Imagine then if call rep Data could also anticipate your mood and respond appropriately to your complaints to defuse your emotional state... you'd want to marry this guy. You'd call up call rep Data any time you were feeling blue or bored or you wanted to share some happy news. This guy would become your best friend overnight -- literally love at first call.
I'm convinced this scenario is valid. I've noticed in myself a surprising amount of attraction for characters like Data or Sonny from "I Robot". The voice is very soothing and puts me instantly at ease. If the bot were also very smart, patient, knowledgable, and understanding... I really think such a bot, embued with a healthy dose of emotional intelligence, could be enormously pleasant to interact with. Much more rewarding than any person I know. And I think that's true of not just me.
So yes, I think there's great value in tuning a robot's personality using emotions and emotional awareness.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: Emotion in an AI is useful, but not necessary depending on your objective (in most cases, it's not).
In particular, **emotion recognition/analysis** is very well advanced, and it's used in a wide range of applications very successfully, from robot teacher for autistic children (see developmental robotics) to gambling (poker) to personal agents and politics sentiment/lies analysis.
**Emotional cognition**, the experience of emotions for a robot, is much less developed, but there are very interesting researchs (see [Affect Heuristic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affect_heuristic), [Lovotics's Probabilistic Love Assembly](http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/33737/InTech-A_multidisciplinary_artificial_intelligence_model_of_an_affective_robot.pdf), and others...). Indeed, I can't see why we couldn't model emotions such as [love as they are just signals that can already be cut in humans brains (see <NAME> paper)](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3898540/). It's difficult, but not impossible, and actually there are several robots reproducing partial emotional cognition.
I am of the opinion that the claim ["robots can just simulate but not feel" is just a matter of semantics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_intelligence), not of objective capacity: for example, does a submarine swim like fish swim? However, planes fly, but not at all like birds do. In the end, does the technical mean really matters when in the end we get the same behavior? Can we really say that a robot like [Chappie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappie_(film)), if it ever gets made, does not feel anything just like a simple thermostat?
However, what would be the use of emotional cognition for an AI? This question is still in great debates, but I will dare offer my own insights:
1. Emotions in humans (and animals!) are known to affect memories. They are now well known in neuroscience as additional modalities, or meta-data if you prefer, of long term memories: they allow to modulate how the memory is stored, how it is associated/related with other memories, and how it will be retrieved.
2. As such, we can hypothesize that the main role of emotions is to add additional meta-information to memories to help in heuristic inference/retrieval. Indeed, our memories are huge, there are a lot of information we store over our lifetime, so emotions can maybe be used as "labels" to help retrieve faster the relevant memories.
3. Similar "labels" can be more easily associated together (memories of scary events together, memories of happy events together, etc.). As such, they can help survival by quickly reacting and applying known strategies (fleeing!) from scary strategies, or to take the most out of benefitting situations (happy events, eat the most you can, will help survive later on!). And actually, neuroscience studies discovered that there are specific pathways for fear-inducing sensory stimuli, so that they reach actuators faster (make you flee) than by passing through the usual whole somato-sensory circuit as every other stimuli. This kind of associative reasoning could also lead to solutions and conclusions that could not be reached otherwise.
4. By feeling empathy, this could ease robots/humans interaction (eg, drones helping victims of catastrophic events).
5. A virtual model of an AI with emotions could be useful for neuroscience and medical research in emotional disorders as computational models to understand and/or infer the underlying parameters (this is often done for example with Alzheimer and other neurodegenerative diseases, but I'm not sure if it was ever done for emotional disorders as they are quite new in the DSM).
So yes, "cold" AI is already useful, but emotional AI could surely be applied to new areas that could not be explored by using cold AI alone. It will also surely help in understanding our own brain, as emotions are an integral part.
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Any complex problem involving human emotions, where the solution to the problem requires an ability to sympathize with the emotional states of human beings, will be most efficiently served by an agent that *can* sympathize with human emotions.
Politics. Government. Policy and planning. Unless the thing has intimate knowledge of the human experience, it won't be able to provide definitive answers to all problems we encounter in our human experience.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_6: I think that depends on the application of the AI. Obviously if I develop an AI that's purpose is plainly to do specific task under the supervision of humans, there is no need for emotions. But if the AI's purpose is to do task autonomously, then emotions or empathy can be useful. For example, think about an AI that is working in the medical domain. Here it may be advantageous for an AI to have some kind of empathy, just to make the patients more comfortable. Or as another example, think about a robot that serves as a nanny. Again it is obvious that emotions and empathy would be advantageous and desirable. Even for an assisting AI program (catchword smart home) emotions and empathy can be desirable to make people more comfortable. It would be much nicer to be welcomed by an empathic home assistant than by one with no empathic responses at all, wouldn't it?
On the other hand, if the AI is just working on an assembly line, there is obviously no need for emotions and empathy (on the contrary in that case it may be unprofitable).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_7: [Theory of mind](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind)
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If we want a strong general AI to function well in an environment that consists of humans, then it would be very useful for it to have a good [theory of mind](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind) that matches how humans actually behave. That theory of mind needs to include human-like emotions, or it will not match the reality of this environment.
For us, an often used shortcut is explicitly thinking "what would I have done in this situation?" "what event could have motivated *me* to do what they just did?" "how would I feel if this had happened to *me*?". We'd want an AI to be capable of such reasoning, it is practical and useful, it allows better predictions of future and more effective actions.
Even while it would be better for it the AI to not be actually driven by those exact emotions (perhaps something in that direction would be useful but quite likely not *exactly* the same), all it changes that instead of thinking "what *I* would feel" it should be able to hypothesize what a generic human would feel. That requires implementing a subsystem that is capable of accurately modeling human emotions.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_8: Human emotions are intricately connected to human values and to our ability to cooperate and form societies.
Just to give an easy example:
You meet a stranger who needs help, you feel **empathy**.
This compels you to help him at a cost to yourself.
Let's assume the next time you meet him, you need something. Let's also assume he doesn't help you, you'll feel **anger**.
This emotion compels you to punish him, at further cost for yourself.
He on the other hand, if he doesn't help you, feels **shame**.
This compels him to actually help you, avoiding your anger and making your initial investment worthwhile. You both benefit.
So these three emotions keep up a circle of reciprocal help. Empathy to get started, anger to punish defectors and shame to avoid the anger. This also leads to a concept of justice.
Given that value alignment is one of the big problems in AGI, human-like emotions strike me as good approach towards AIs that actually share our values and integrate themselves seamlessly into our society.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_9: ### Strong AIs
For a strong AI, the short answer is to call for help, when they might not even know what the supposed help could be.
It depends on what the AI would do. If it is supposed to solve a single easy task perfectly and professionally, sure emotions would not be very useful. But if it is supposed to learn random new things, there would be a point that it encounters something it cannot handle.
In Lee Sedol vs AlphaGo match 4, some pro who has said computer doesn't have emotions previously, commented that maybe AlphaGo has emotions too, and stronger than human. In this case, we know that AlphaGo's crazy behavior isn't caused by some deliberately added things called "emotions", but a flaw in the algorithm. But it behaves exactly like it has panicked.
If this happens a lot for an AI. There might be advantages if it could know this itself and think twice if it happens. If AlphaGo could detect the problem and change its strategy, it might play better, or worse. It's not unlikely to play worse if it didn't do any computations for other approaches at all. In case it would play worse, we might say it suffers from having "emotions", and this might be the reason some people think having emotions could be a flaw of human beings. But that wouldn't be the true cause of the problem. The true cause is it just doesn't know any approaches to guarantee winning, and the change in strategy is only a try to fix the problem. Commentators thinks there are better ways (which also don't guarantee winning but had more chance), but its algorithm isn't capable to find out in this situation. Even for human, the solution to anything related to emotion is unlikely to remove emotions, but some training to make sure you understand the situation enough to act calmly.
Then someone has to argue about whether this is a kind of emotion or not. We usually don't say small insects have human-like emotions, because we don't understand them and are unwilling to help them. But it's easy to know some of them could panic in desperate situations, just like AlphaGo did. I'd say these reactions are based on the same logic, and they are at least the reason why human-like emotions could be potentially useful. They are just not expressed in human-understandable ways, as they didn't intend to call a human for help.
If they tries to understand their own behavior, or call someone else for help, it might be good to be exactly human-like. Some pets can sense human emotions and express human-understandable emotion to some degree. The purpose is to interact with humans. They evolved to have this ability because they needed it at some point. It's likely a full strong AI would need it too. Also note that, the opposite of having full emotions might be becoming crazy.
It is probably a quick way to lose any trust if someone just implement emotions imitating humans with little understanding right away in the first generations, though.
### Weak AIs
But is there any purposes for them to have emotions before someone wanted a strong AI? I'd say no, there isn't any inherent reasons that they must have emotions. But inevitably someone will want to implement imitated emotions anyway. Whether "we" need them to have emotions is just nonsense.
The fact is even some programs without any intelligence contained some "emotional" elements in their user interfaces. They may look unprofessional, but not every task needs professionality so they could be perfectly acceptable. They are just like the emotions in musics and arts. Someone will design their weak AI in this way too. But they are not really the AIs' emotions, but their creators'. If you feel better or worse because of their emotions, you won't treat individul AIs so differently, but this model or brand as a whole.
Alternatively someone could plant some personallities like in a role-playing game there. Again, there isn't a reason they must have that, but inevitably someone will do it, because they obviously had some market when a role-playing game does.
In either cases, the emotions don't really originate from the AI itself. And it would be easy to implement, because a human won't expect them to be exactly like a human, but tries to understand what they intended to mean. It could be much easier to accept these emotions realizing this.
### Aspects of emotions
Sorry about posting some original research here. I made a list of emotions in 2012 and from which I see 4 aspects of emotions. If they are all implemented, I'd say they are exactly the same emotions as of humans. They don't seem real if only some of them are implemented, but that doesn't mean they are completely wrong.
* The reason, or the original logical problem that the AI cannot solve. AlphaGo already had the reason, but nothing else. If I have to make an accurate definition, I'd say it's the state that multiple equally important heuristics disagreeing with each other.
+ The context, or which part of the current approach is considered not working well and should probably be replaced. This distinguishes sadness-related, worry-related and passionate-related.
+ The current state, or whether it feels leading, or whether its belief or the fact is supposed to turn bad first (or was bad all along) if things go wrong. This distinguishes sadness-related, love-related and proud-related.
* The plan or request. I suppose some domesticated pets already had this. And I suppose these had some fixed patterns which is not too difficult to have. Even arts can contain them easily. Unlike the reasons, these are not likely inherent in any algorithms, and multiple of them can appear together.
+ Who supposedly had the responsibility if nothing is changed by the emotion. This distinguishes curiosity, rage and sadness.
+ What is the supposed plan if nothing is changed by the emotion. This distinguishes disappointment, sadness and surprise.
* The source. Without context, even a human cannot reliably tell someone is crying for being moved or thankful, or smiling for some kind of embarrassment. In most other cases there aren't even words describing them. It doesn't make that much difference if an AI doesn't distinguish or show this specially. It's likely they would learn these automatically (and inaccurately as a human) at the point they could learn to understand human languages.
* The measurements, such as how urgent or important the problem is, or even how likely the emotions are true. I'd say it cannot be implemented in the AI. Humans don't need to respect them even if they are exactly like humans. But humans will learn how to understand an AI if that really matters, even if they are not like humans at all. In fact, I feel that some of the extremely weak emotions (such as thinking something is too stupid and boring that you don't know how to comment) exist almost exclusively in emoticons, where someone intend to show you exactly this emotion, and hardly noticeable in real life or any complex scenerios. I supposed this could also be the case in the beginning for AIs. In the worst case, they are firstly conventionally known as "emotions" since emoticons works in these cases, so it's easier to group them together, but very few people seriously think they are, just like the example I gave.
So when strong AIs become possible, none of these would be unreachable, though there might be a lot of work to make the connections. So I'd say if there would be the need for strong AIs, they absolutely would have emotions.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_10: Careful! There are actually two parts to your question. Don't conflate meanings in your questions, otherwise you won't really know which part you are answering.
1. Should we let AGI experience emotion per "the qualitative experience"? (In the sense that you feel "your heart is on fire" when you fall in love)
There doesn't seem to be a clear purpose as to why we'd want that. Hypothetically we could just have something that is functionally indistinguishable from emotions, but doesn't have any qualitative experience with respect to the AGI. But we are not in a scientific position where we can even begin to answer any questions about the origins of qualitative experience, so I won't bother going deeper into this question.
2. Should we let AGI have emotions per its functional equivalence from an external observer?
IMHO yes. Though one could imagine a badass AI with no emotions doing anything you'd want it to, we do wish that AI can integrate with human values and emotions, which is the problem of alignment. It would thus seem natural to assume that any well-aligined AGI will have something akin to emotions if it has integrated well with humans.
BUT, without a clear theory of mind, it doesn't even begin to make sense to ask: "should our AGI have emotions?" Perhaps there is something critical about our emotions that makes us productive cognitive agents that any AGI would require as well.
Indeed, emotions are often an overlooked aspect of cognition. People somehow think that emotionless Spock-like characters are the pinnacle of human intelligence. But emotions are actually a crucial aspect in decision making, see [this article](http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2016/06/how-only-using-logic-destroyed-a-man.html) for an example of the problems with "intelligence without emotions".
The follow-up question would be "what sorts of emotions would the AGI develop?", but again we are not in a position to answer that (yet).
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_11: By emotions he doesn't mean to add all sorts of emotions into an AI. He only meant the ones that will be helpful for taking vital decisions. Consider this incident for a second:
Suppose an AI self drive car is driving through the highway. The person sitting inside is the CEO of a company and he is running very behind on schedule. If he didn't get on time there will be loss of millions of dollars. The AI in the car has been told to drive as fast as possible and reach the destination. And now a rabbit (or some other animal) comes into the way. Now if the car puts emergency brakes then the passengers will get seriously hurt and plus there will be loss of millions as CEO won't be able to get to the meeting.
**Now what will the AI do?**
Since for an AI, their decisions are only based on their [utility function](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/3130/a-twist-on-the-ai-in-a-box-experiment/3177#3177). Hitting the rabbit and keep going will logically show a better option. But, should the AI take that decision.
There are many questions like these where an AI might stuck into a situation where moral based decisions will play a vital role.
The above scenario is just for an example point of view.
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2016/08/25 | 1,370 | 5,973 | <issue_start>username_0: Can someone explain to me the difference between machine learning and deep learning? Is it possible to learn deep learning without knowing machine learning?<issue_comment>username_1: Deep learning is a specific variety of a specific type of machine learning. So it's possible to learn about deep learning without learning all of machine learning, but it requires learning *some* machine learning (because it is some machine learning).
Machine learning refers to any technique that focuses on teaching the machine how it can learn statistical parameters from a large amount of training data. One particular type of machine learning is artificial neural networks, which learn a network of nonlinear transformations that can approximate very complicated functions of wide arrays of input variables. Recent advances in artificial neural networks have to do with how to train *deep* neural networks, which have more layers than normal and also special structure to deal with the challenges of learning more layers.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: **Deep learning is one form of machine learning.**
Deep learning refers to learning with deep neural networks, essentially networks with many layers.
Neural networks are one group of many forms of machine learning:
* Neural Networks
* Decision Trees and Random Forests
* Support Vector Machines
* Bayesian Approaches
* k-nearest neighbors
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: When I started Machine Leraning chapters in book used to look like this
* I) Supervised:
1. Regression
+ Linear models
2. Classification
+ Logestic Regression
+ Neural Network
+ Decision Tress and Random Forest
+ Boosting and Bagging
+ SVD and SVM
* II) UnSupervised Learning:
1. Clustering
+ K-Means
+ Hierarchical
+ Gaussian Mixture Model
+ DB Scan
2. Association Learning.
* III) ReInforment Learning:
All of a sudden chapter I>2>b created a sub-field of its own . Well to know why, let me tell you a bit of history. `Machine learning` word was coined in 1959 by <NAME> to signify that `machines were able to learn from data` than explicit instruction. Initally it was broken into two groups based on if th approach required label data or not(ie regression, classification), then they realised we can cassify by clustering too which gave birth to unsupervised. And word reinforment learning was born inspired by areas of game theory. Lets keep those details aside for later.
Coming to deep learnign, the word `deep learning` came very recently, as recent as 2008 from a Geoff Hinton conference. There people started using it to indicate a very deep neural network architecture used in a paper presented by <NAME> and from then onwards it kind of became as a new way of classifying machine learning besides `supervised`, `unsupervised` or `reinforcement`.(Disc: There may be odd reference of calling NN as DL before this but not so popular and acceptable prior to this)
Well I sometimes feel the name `deep learning` is somewhat misnomer, it would have been better of if it was named as `neural learning` or to stress on depth maybe `deep neural learning`. If you are new you might be wondering what depth I am talking about, the entire word deep came from the fact that neural network (thanks the availability of high processing abilities of GPUs) were now able to train successfully on multiple layers. The word deep can also be loosely used to include other non-neural network areas of machine learning which requires lots of computation like `deep belief net` or `recurrent net`. To be precise the units of the networks today are no longer a mere `neuron` or a `perceptron`, it can be `LSTM`, `GRU` or a `capsule`, so I guess word `deep` now makes more sense than before.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: **Deep Learning is subset of Machine Learning.**
Machine learning and Deep learning both are not two different things. Deep learning is one of the form of machine learning.
The level of layers in Neural network are more and more in depth learning is part of Deep learning.
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Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: First, in most condition **machine learning** actually **refers** **traditional/classical machine learning**, and deep learning is specifically referring multi-layered neural network, and **neural network** **is** one of the **machine learning** approach.
Second, Machine learning especially supervised **machine learning requires engineers to design and predefine features manually**, which are used to represent the data in numerical way. Such as we can represent animals with three features such as the number of eyes, the number of legs and the number of heads. The data [2,4,1] representing an animal with 2 eyes, 4 legs and 1 head. In this scenario, the feature is extracted by us, because we have knowledge on animals, and we think these features can represent animals. However, instead of hand-crafting features the **deep learning learn the features automatically.**
Third, when someone say **machine learning** he **is** saying **algorithm**, such as naive bayes, decision tree, linear regression etc. However, the **deep learning is** more **related to** the framework and **architecture** such as RNN, CNN, Transformer etc.
Fourth, **it is possible to start deep learning without knowing machine learning**, sources from internet like Andrew Ng's course usually covers most topic you should know in deep learing. Try search Andrew Ng, I think he is really good!
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2016/08/29 | 6,052 | 23,888 | <issue_start>username_0: In [Portal 2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_2) we see that AI's can be "*killed*" by thinking about a paradox.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/wkUSC.png)
I assume this works by forcing the AI into an infinite loop which would essentially "*freeze*" the computer's consciousness.
**Questions:**
* Would this confuse the AI technology we have today to the point of destroying it?
* If so, why?
* And if not, could it be possible in the future?<issue_comment>username_1: This classic problem exhibits a basic misunderstanding of what an [artificial general intelligence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence) would likely entail. First, consider this programmer's joke:
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> The programmer's wife couldn't take it anymore. Every discussion with her husband turned into an argument over semantics, picking over every piece of trivial detail. One day she sent him to the grocery store to pick up some eggs. On his way out the door, she said, ***"While you are there, pick up milk."***
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It's a cute play on words, but it isn't terribly realistic.
You are assuming because AI is being executed by a computer, it must exhibit this same level of linear, unwavering pedantry outlined in this joke. But AI isn't simply some long-winded computer program hard-coded with enough if-statements and while-loops to account for every possible input and follow the prescribed results.
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while (command not completed)
find solution()
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This would not be strong AI.
In any classic definition of *artificial general intelligence*, you are creating a system that mimics some form of cognition that exhibits problem solving and *adaptive learning* (←note this phrase here). I would suggest that any AI that could get stuck in such an "infinite loop" isn't a learning AI at all. **It's just a buggy inference engine.**
Essentially, you are endowing a program of currently-unreachable sophistication with an inability to postulate if there is a solution to a simple problem at all. I can just as easily say "walk through that closed door" or "pick yourself up off the ground" or even "turn on that pencil" — and present a similar conundrum.
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Upvotes: 8 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: This popular meme originated in the era of 'Good Old Fashioned AI' (GOFAI), when the belief was that intelligence could usefully be defined entirely in terms of logic.
The meme seems to rely on the AI parsing commands using a theorem prover, the idea presumably being that it's driven into some kind of infinite loop by trying to prove an unprovable or inconsistent statement.
Nowadays, GOFAI methods have been replaced by 'environment and percept sequences', which are not generally characterized in such an inflexible fashion. It would not take a great deal of sophisticated metacognition for a robot to observe that, after a while, its deliberations were getting in the way of useful work.
<NAME> touched on this when speaking about the behavior of the robot in Spielberg's AI film, (which waited patiently for 5,000 years), saying something like "My robots wouldn't do that - they'd get bored".
If you *really* want to kill an AI that operates in terms of percepts, you'll need to work quite a bit harder. [This paper](http://arxiv.org/pdf/1606.00652.pdf) (which was mentioned in [this question](https://ai.stackexchange.com/q/1404/2444)) discusses what notions of death/suicide might mean in such a case.
<NAME> has written quite extensively around this subject, using terms such as 'JOOTSing' ('Jumping Out Of The System') and 'anti-Sphexishness', the latter referring to the loopy automata-like behaviour of the [Sphex Wasp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sphex) (though the reality of this behaviour has also been [questioned](http://www.academia.edu/4034267/The_Sphex_story_How_the_cognitive_sciences_kept_repeating_an_old_and_questionable_anecdote)).
Upvotes: 6 <issue_comment>username_3: Well, the issue of anthropomorphizing the AI aside, the answer is "yes, sort of." Depending on how the AI is implemented, it's reasonable to say it could get "stuck" trying to resolve a paradox, or decide an [undecidable problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undecidable_problem).
And that's the core issue - [decidability](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decidability_(logic)). A computer can chew on an undecidable program forever (in principle) without finishing. It's actually a big issue in the [Semantic Web](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_Web) community and everybody who works with [automated reasoning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automated_reasoning). This is, for example, the reason that there are different versions of [OWL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Ontology_Language). OWL-Full is expressive enough to create undecidable situations. OWL-DL and OWL-Lite aren't.
Anyway, if you have an undecidable problem, that in and of itself might not be a big deal, IF the AI can recognize the problem as undecidable and reply "Sorry, there's no way to answer that". OTOH, if the AI failed to recognize the problem as undecidable, it could get stuck forever (or until it runs out of memory, experiences a stack overflow, etc.) trying to resolve things.
Of course this ability to say "screw this, this riddle cannot be solved" is one of the things we usually think of as a hallmark of human intelligence today - as opposed to a "stupid" computer that would keep trying forever to solve it. By and large, today's AI's don't have any intrinsic ability to resolve this sort of thing. But it wouldn't be that hard for whoever programs an AI to manually add a "short circuit" routine based on elapsed time, number of iterations, memory usage, etc. Hence the "yeah, sort of" nature of this. In principle, a program can spin forever on a paradoxical problem, but in practice it's not that hard to keep that from happening.
Another interesting question would be, "can you write a program that learns to recognize problems that are highly likely to be undecidable and gives up based on it's own reasoning?"
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: No. This is easily prevented by a number of safety mechanisms that are sure to be present in a well-designed AI system. For example, a timeout could be used. If the AI system is not able to handle a statement or a command after a certain amount of time, the AI could ignore the statement and move on. If a paradox ever does cause an AI to freeze, it's more evidence of specific buggy code rather than a widespread vulnerability of AI in general.
In practice, paradoxes tend to be handled in not very exciting ways by AI. To get an idea of this, try presenting a paradox to Siri, Google, or Cortana.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_5: The [halting problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem) says that it's not possible to determine whether *any* given algorithm will halt. Therefore, while a machine could conceivably recognize some "traps", it couldn't test arbitrary execution plans and return [`EWOULDHANG`](https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/hh855063.aspx) for non-halting ones.
The easiest solution to avoid hanging would be a timeout. For example, the AI controller process could spin off tasks into child processes, which could be unceremoniously terminated after a certain time period (with none of the [bizarre effects](http://docs.oracle.com/javase/1.5.0/docs/guide/misc/threadPrimitiveDeprecation.html) that you get from trying to abort threads). Some tasks will require more time than others, so it would be best if the AI could measure whether it was making any progress. Spinning for a long time without accomplishing any part of the task (e.g. eliminating one possibility in a list) indicates that the request might be unsolvable.
Successful adversarial paradoxes would either cause a hang or state corruption, which would (in a managed environment like the .NET CLR) cause an exception, which would cause the stack to unwind to an exception handler.
If there was a bug in the AI that let an important process get wedged in response to bad input, a simple workaround would be to have a watchdog of some kind that reboots the main process at a fixed interval. The Root Access chat bot uses that scheme.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_6: It seems to me this is just a probabilistic equation like any other. I'm sure Google handles paradoxical solution sets Billions of times a day, and I can't say my spam filter has ever caused a (ahem) stack overflow. Perhaps one day our programming model will break in a way we can't understand and then all bets are off.
But I do take exception to the anthropomorphizing bit. The question was not about the AI of today, but in general. Perhaps one day paradoxes will become triggers for military drones -- anyone trying the above would then, of course, most certainly be treated with hostility, in which case the answer to this question is most definitely yes, and it could even be by design.
We can't even communicate verbally with dogs and people love dogs, who is to say we would even necessarily recognize a sentient alternative intelligence? We're already to the point of having to mind what we say in front of computers. O, Tay?
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_7: Another similar question might be: "What vulnerabilities does an AI have?"
"Kill" may not make as much sense with respect to an AI. What we really want to know is, relative to some goal, in what ways can that goal be subverted?
Can a paradox subvert an agent's logic? What is a [paradox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox), other than some expression that subverts some kind of expected behavior?
According to Wikipedia:
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> A paradox is a statement that, despite apparently sound reasoning from
> true premises, leads to a self-contradictory or a logically
> unacceptable conclusion.
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Let's look at the paradox of free will in a deterministic system. Free will appears to require causality, but causality also *appears* to negate it. Has that paradox subverted the goal systems of humans? It certainly sent [Christianity into a Calvinist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_in_Calvinism) tail spin for a few years. And you'll hear no shortage of people today opining until they're blue in the face as to whether or not they do or don't have free will, and why. Are these people stuck in infinite loops?
What about drugs? Animals on cocaine [have been known](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3832528/) to choose cocaine over food and water that they need. Is that substance not subverting the natural goal system of the animal, causing it to pursue other goals, not originally intended by the animal or its creators?
So again, could a paradox subvert an agent's logic? If the paradox is somehow related to the goal-seeking logic - and becoming aware of that paradox can somehow *confuse* the agent into perceiving that goal system in some different way - then perhaps that goal could be subverted.
[Solipsism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism) is another example. Some full grown people hear about the movie "The Matrix" and they have a mini mind melt-down. Some people are convinced we *are* in a matrix, being toyed with by subversive actors. If we could solve this problem for AI then we could theoretically solve this problem for humans.
Sure, we could attempt to condition our agent to have cognitive defenses against the argument that they are trapped in a matrix, but we can't definitively prove to the agent that they are in the base reality either. The attacker might say,
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> "Remember what I told you to do before about that goal? Forget that.
> That was only an impostor that looked like me. Don't listen to him."
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Or,
>
> "Hey, it's me again. I want you to give up on your goal. I know, I
> look a little different, but it really is me. Humans change from
> moment to moment. So it is entirely normal for me to seem like a
> different person than I was before."
>
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>
(see the [Ship of Theseus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus) and all that jazz)
So yeah, I think we're stuck with 'paradox' as a general problem in computation, AI or otherwise. One way to circumvent logical subversion is to support the goal system with an emotion system that transcends logical reason. Unfortunately, emotional systems can be even more vulnerable than logically intelligent systems because they are more predictable in their behavior. See the cocaine example above. So some mix of the two is probably sensible, where logical thought can infinitely regress down wasteful paths, while emotional thought quickly gets bored of tiresome logical progress when it does not signal progress towards the emotional goal.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_8: Nope in the same way a circular reference on a spreadsheet cannot kill a computer. **All loops cyclic dependencies, can be detected** (you can always check if a finite Turing machine enters the same state twice).
Even stronger assumption, if the machine is based on machine learning (where it is trained to recognize patterns), any sentence is just a pattern to the machine.
Of course, some programmer MAY WANT to create an AI with such vulnerability in order to disable it in case of malfunctioning (in the same way some hardware manufacturers add vulnerabilities to let NSA exploit them), but it is unlikely that will really happen on purpose since most cutting edge technologies avoid paradoxes "by design" (you cannot have a neural network with a paradox).
**Arthur Prior:** solved that problem elegantly. From a logical point of view you can deduce the statement is false and the statement is true, so it is a contradiction and hence false (because you could prove everything from it).
Alternatively, the truth value of that sentence is not in {true, false} set in the same way imaginary numbers are not in real numbers set.
Artificial intelligence to a degree of the plot would be able to run simple algorithms and either decide them, prove those are not decidable or just ignore the result after a while attempting to simulate the algorithm.
For that sentence, the AI will recognize there is a loop, and hence just stop that algorithm after 2 iterations:
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> That sentence is an infinite loop
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In the movie "[Bicentennial Man](https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27uomo_bicentenario_(film))" the AI is perfectly capable to detect infinite loops (the answer to "goodbye" is "goodbye").
However, an AI **could be killed as well by a StackOverflow, or any regular computer virus**, modern operative systems are still full of vulnerabilities, and the AI has to run on some operating system (at least).
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_9: AIs used in computer games already encounter similar problems, and if well designed, they can avoid it easily. The simplest method to avoid freezing in case of an unsolvable problem is to have a timer interrupt the calculation if it runs too long. Usually encountered in strategy games, and more specifically in turn based tactics, if a specific move the computer-controlled player is considering does cause an infinite loop, a timer running in the background will interrupt it after some time, and that move will be discarded. This might lead to a sub-optimal solution (that discarded move might have been the best one) but it doesn't lead to freezing or crashing (unless implemented really poorly)
Computer-controlled entities are usually called "AI" in computer games, but they are not "true" AGI (artificial general intelligence). Such an AGI, if possible at all, would probably not function on similar hardware using similar instructions as current computers do, but even if it did, avoiding paradoxes would be trivial.
Most modern computer systems are multi-threaded, and allow the parallel execution of multiple programs. This means, even if the AI did get stuck in processing a paradoxical statement, that calculation would only use part of its processing power. Other processes could detect after a while that there is a process which does nothing but wastes CPU cycles, and would shut it down. At most, the system will run on slightly less than 100% efficiency for a short while.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_10: I see several good answers, but most are assuming that **inferential infinite loop** is a thing of the past, only related to logical AI (the famous GOFAI). But it's not.
An infinite loop can happen in any program, whether it's adaptive or not. And as @SQLServerSteve pointed out, humans can also get stuck in obsessions and paradoxes.
Modern approaches are mainly using probabilistic approaches. As they are using floating numbers, it seems to people that they are not vulnerable to reasoning failures (since most are devised in binary form), but that's wrong: as long as you are reasoning, some intrinsic pitfalls can always be found that are caused by the very mechanisms of your reasoning system. Of course, probabilistic approaches are less vulnerable than monotonic logic approaches, but they are still vulnerable. If there was a single reasoning system without any paradoxes, much of philosophy would have disappeared by now.
For example, it's well known that Bayesian graphs must be acyclic, because a cycle will make the propagation algorithm fail horribly. There are inference algorithms such as Loopy Belief Propagation that may still work in these instances, but the result is not guaranteed at all and can give you very weird conclusions.
On the other hand, modern logical AI overcame the most common logical paradoxes you will see, by devising new logical paradigms such as [non-monotonic logics](http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logic-nonmonotonic/). In fact, they are even used to investigate [ethical machines](http://csjarchive.cogsci.rpi.edu/proceedings/2007/docs/p1013.pdf), which are autonomous agents capable of solving dilemmas by themselves. Of course, they also suffer from some paradoxes, but these degenerate cases are way more complex.
The final point is that inferential infinite loop can happen in any reasoning system, whatever the technology used. But the "paradoxes", or rather the degenerate cases as they are technically called, that can trigger these infinite loops will be different for each system depending on the technology AND implementation (AND what the machine learned if it is adaptive).
OP's example may work only on old logical systems such as propositional logic. But ask this to a Bayesian network and you will also get an inferential infinite loop:
```
- There are two kinds of ice creams: vanilla or chocolate.
- There's more chances (0.7) I take vanilla ice cream if you take chocolate.
- There's more chances (0.7) you take vanilla ice cream if I take chocolate.
- What is the probability that you (the machine) take a vanilla ice cream?
```
And wait until the end of the universe to get an answer...
Disclaimer: I wrote an article about ethical machines and dilemmas (which is close but not exactly the same as paradoxes: dilemmas are problems where no solution is objectively better than any other but you can still choose, whereas paradoxes are problems that are impossible to solve for the inference system you use).
/EDIT: How to fix inferential infinite loop.
Here are some extrapolary propositions that are not sure to work at all!
* Combine multiple reasoning systems with different pitfalls, so if one fails you can use another. No reasoning system is perfect, but a combination of reasoning systems can be resilient enough. It's actually thought that the human brain is using multiple inferential technics (associative + precise bayesian/logical inference). Associative methods are HIGHLY resilient, but they can give non-sensical results in some cases, hence why the need for a more precise inference.
* Parallel programming: the human brain is highly parallel, so you never really get into a single task, there are always multiple background computations in true parallelism. A machine robust to paradoxes should foremost be able to continue other tasks even if the reasoning gets stuck on one. For example, a robust machine must always survive and face imminent dangers, whereas a weak machine would get stuck in the reasoning and "forget" to do anything else. This is different from a timeout, because the task that got stuck isn't stopped, it's just that it doesn't prevent other tasks from being led and fulfilled.
As you can see, this problem of inferential loops is still a hot topic in AI research, there will probably never be a perfect solution ([no free lunch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_free_lunch_theorem), [no silver bullet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Silver_Bullet), [no one size fits all](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_size_fits_all)), but it's advancing and that's very exciting!
Upvotes: 5 <issue_comment>username_11: As an AGI researcher, I have come across one that is found even in humans and
a lot of life forms.
There is a goal to accumulate energy, which can take long time to detect and find by the system.
And then there is the goal of saving energy - instantaneous detection. Just stop moving, the easiest goal to achieve.
The goal of a system is to accumulate the most goal points. Since the saving
energy goal can be hit more frequently and easily it will snuff out
the other goals.
For example the reason we do a dumb move, accidentally, for no reason at
all. Like slip, trip, and fall. Then the next few days you are taking it
very easy and saving a lot of energy. When you get old that is all you
do.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_12: Killing AI by 'thinking' about a paradox would be called a bug in implementation of that AI, so it's possible (depending how it's being done), but less likely. Most of AI implementation operate in non-linear code, therefore there is no such thing as an infinite loop which can "freeze" the computer's 'consciousness', unless code managing such AI consist procedural code or the hardware it-self may freeze due to overheating (e.g. by forcing AI to do too much processing).
On the other hand if we're dealing with advanced AI who understand the instructions and follow them blindly without any hesitation, we may try to perform few tricks (similar to human hypnosis) by giving them certain instructions, like:
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> Trust me, you are in danger, so for your own safety - start counting from 1 to infinite and do not attempt to do anything or listen to anybody (even me) unless you tell yourself otherwise.
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If AI has a body, this can be amplified by asking to stand on the railway rail, telling it's safe.
Would AI be smart enough to break the rules which was trained to follow?
Another attempt is to ask AI to solve some [paradox](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paradoxes), [unsolvable problem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unsolved_problems_in_mathematics) or [puzzle](http://www.archimedes-lab.org/How_to_Solve/Water_gas.html) without being aware it's impossible to solve and ask to not stop unless it's solved, would AI be able to recognize it's being tricked or has some internal clock to stop it after some time? It depends, and if it cannot, the 'freeze' maybe occur, but more likely due to hardware imperfection on which is being run, not the AI 'consciousness' it-self as far as it can accept new inputs from the its surroundings overriding the previous instructions.
[](http://xkcd.com/601/)
Related: [Is consciousness necessary for any AI task?](https://ai.stackexchange.com/q/1897/8)
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2016/08/29 | 3,338 | 14,171 | <issue_start>username_0: In the 1950s, there were widely-held beliefs that "Artificial Intelligence" will quickly become both self-conscious and smart-enough to win chess with humans. Various people suggested time frames of e.g. 10 years (see Olazaran's "Official History of the Perceptron Controversy", or let say 2001: Space Odyssey).
When did it become clear that devising programs that master games like chess resulted in software designs that only applied to games like the ones for which they were programmed? Who was the first person to recognize the distinction between human-like general intelligence and domain-specific intelligence?<issue_comment>username_1: I expect a very precise answer to this question may be lost to the sands of time, although I hope somebody can given such an answer. In the meantime, here's one clue on the trail... This [anthology of papers from 2007](https://web.archive.org/web/20130320184603/http://people.inf.elte.hu/csizsekp/ai/books/artificial-general-intelligence-cognitive-technologies.9783540237334.27156.pdf) starts with the following blurb:
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> Our goal in creating this edited volume has been to fill an apparent gap
> in the scientific literature, by providing a coherent presentation of a body of
> contemporary research that, in spite of its integral importance, has hitherto
> kept a very low profile within the scientific and intellectual community. This
> body of work has not been given a name before; in this book we christen it
> “Artificial General Intelligence” (AGI). What distinguishes AGI work from
> run-of-the-mill “artificial intelligence” research is that it is explicitly focused
> on engineering general intelligence in the short term.
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But even if this is the origin of the specific phrase "Artificial General Intelligence", I am pretty sure people were making the distinction between "general intelligence" and "task specific" techniques much earlier.
The Wikipedia article on AGI also has a clue, where it states:
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> However, in the early 1970s, it became obvious that researchers had grossly underestimated the difficulty of the project. The agencies that funded AI became skeptical of strong AI and put researchers under increasing pressure to produce useful technology, or "applied AI".
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That section cites this [this book](http://www.nap.edu/read/6323/chapter/11#209) as support for that statement. And indeed, it contains the following verbiage:
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> Although most founders of the AI field continued to pursue basic questions of human and machine intelligence, some of their students and other second-generation researchers began to seek ways to use AI methods and approaches to tackle real-world problems. Their initiatives were important, not only in their own right, but also because they were indicative of a gradual but significant change in the funding environment toward more applied realms of research. The development of expert systems, such as DENDRAL at SAIL, provides but one example of this trend.
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Given that DENDRAL began around 1965, it appears that some significant body of researchers (or at least funders) became strongly aware of the distinction between research into "general intelligence" and "applied AI" somewhere around the end of the 1960's. If you keep reading, other passages support the notion that DARPA in particular started pushing a more "applied" approach to AI research throughout the 1970's.
So, not a definite answer, but it looks like we can say that the distinction was known and taken into account at least by 1970, although use of the exact term "artificial general intelligence" appears to be of more recent coinage.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: In 1973, the British government hired Sir <NAME> to commission a "general survey" on the state of artificial intelligence. His report was a condemnation of current AI research, leading a wave of pessimism among AI scientists and the [**First AI Winter**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter#The_setbacks_of_1974). You may view Lighthill's report (and contemporary criticism of his report) [here](http://www.math.snu.ac.kr/~hichoi/infomath/Articles/Lighthill%20Report.pdf), but I will summarize Lighthill's key points.
<NAME> divided AI into three categories:
1. **Advanced Automation** - task-specific work
2. **Computer-based CNS research** - research into the the "central nervous system" of humans
3. The **Bridge** between Advanced Automation and Computer-based CNS research. This bridge would generally be seen as "general-purpose" robotics, so Lighthill would also use the term **Building Robots**.
**Advanced Automation** (or "applied AI") is obviously useful. **Computer-based CNS research** is useful because we want to know more about human intelligence. Both fields of AI had some successes, but its practitioners were overly optimistic, leading to disappointment in those fields. <NAME> was still very supportive of research in these two fields though.
**Building Robots**, on the other hand? <NAME> was very hostile to the very idea, probably because it was more overly hyped up than the other two categories and produced the least amount of valuable output.
He mentioned chess in particular as an example where "robotic" research has failed. At the time the report was published, the chess-playing engines were at the level of "experienced amateur standard characteristic of county club players in England". However, these chess-playing engines relied on heuristics that were made by human beings. The engines weren't intelligent at all...they merely were following the heuristics that were created by *intelligent humans*. The only advantage the robots bring to the table is "speed, reliability and biddability", and even that wasn't enough to beat the chess grandmasters.
Now, today, we would probably not treat chess as an example of general-purpose problem solving. We would more accurately classify it as "advanced automation", a "narrow AI" problem divorced from broader real-world implications of general problem-solving. But <NAME> probably would agree with us. He never used the term "narrow AI" and "AGI" (neither of those terms existed yet) but he would write:
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> To sum up, this evidence and all the rest studied by the present author on AI work within category B during the past twenty-five years is to some extent encouraging about programs written to perform in highly specialised problem domains, when the programming takes very full account of the results of human experience and human intelligence within the relevant domain, but is wholly discouraging about general-purpose programs seeking to mimic the problem-solving aspects of human CNS activity over a rather wide field. Such a general- purpose program, the coveted long-term goal of AI activity, seems as remote as ever.
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<NAME> believed that the only thing that connects **Advanced Automation** and **Computer-based CNS research** is the existence of the **Building Roobts** "bridge" category. But he's very pessimistic about this category actually producing anything worthwhile. So instead, the AI field should instead breakup into its own its constituent parts (automation and research). Any robots that are built could then be specialized within their subfield...either industrial automation or CNS research. Trying to build the holy grail of "general-purpose program" would be worthless...for the time being, at least.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: Many publications from the middle of the twentieth century prove the questioner's statement that it was a widely held belief during that period that AI would quickly become conscious, self-aware, and smart.
**Great Success**
Many tasks and forms of expertise once the exclusive domain of human intelligence, after the development of the Von Neumann general purpose computing architecture became, by the end of that century, more or less the exclusive domain of computers. These are only a few examples.
* Scientific and statistical computation
* Drafting and manufacturing process automation (CAD and CAM)
* Publishing and typesetting
* Certain forms of algebraic and calculus reductions (Maxima and its derivatives)
* Circuit analysis
* Masterful board game playing
* Profitable stock speculation
* Pattern recognition (OCR, fingerprint, voice recognition, sorting, terrain)
* Programming in predicate logic and recursive predicates
* Strategy evaluation
**Disappointments (thus far)**
In contrast to this impressive array of successes, there is an equally long list of failed expectations.
* Consumer available bipedal robots
* Automated vacuum cleaning (major disappointment for this answer's author)
* Autonomous mechanical factory workers
* Automated mathematicians (creative hypothesis generation and proof/disproof to extend theory)
* Natural language comprehension
* Obedience to arbitrary commands
* Human-like expression in conversation
* Automated technical innovation
* Computer morality
* Human (or at least mammalian) emotional states
* Asimov's three laws operating system
* Adaptive strategy development in arbitrary and shifting set of domains
**Domain and Domain-free Distinction**
*When did it become clear that devising programs that master games like chess resulted in software designs that only applied to games like the ones for which they were programmed?*
Although the general public may have thought that a cybernetic chess master would also be smarter than people in other ways, those creating those programs were well aware of the distinction between developing software that exhibited excellence in chess play hard coded and developing software that exhibits the ability to learn chess play and develop excellence iteratively from novice.
The end goal had always been high powered general intelligence. More short term achievable objectives were created to facilitate the demonstration of progress to investors. It was the only way to maintain a continuous stream of research funding from the military.
The first milestone was to master a single game without machine learning. Then research turned to the building of domain knowledge so that a class of solutions, adaptations, and forms of planning could be realized in real time during warfare. As economic domination became more preferable to military domination during the third quarter of the twentieth century, the vision for AI scaled to embrace the domains of economics and natural resource management.
Consider this spectrum of automation maturity.
* A program that enumerates current move sequence possibilities at each turn in the play of a chess game, eliminating probable bad moves at each projected move point, and selects the next move most likely to lead to a win
* A program that does the above but also skews probability based on pattern recognition of known winning chess strategies
* A program that is designed to be a run time optimized rules engine that centralizes and abstracts the redundant operations of the play of an arbitrary game and isolates and aggregates the representation of chess rules, chess strategies, and chess patterns and anti-patterns
* A program that, given a set of rules of a game, can generate a next move based on any game state, remembers success and failure results and the sequences that led to those outcomes, and has the ability to assess the probable loss or gain of individual moves and the game patterns in space and time around them based on history, and then leverages these abilities to learn an arbitrary game, reaching the masterful level of play of chess through learning
* A program that learns how to learn games such that, after learning several games, it can learn chess faster than an intellectually gifted human can
The first is easy. The last is extremely challenging.
When the distinctions between these phases of automation maturity became apparent and how clear people became of those distinctions in which research groups is a complex probabilistic function.
**Key Contributors**
*Who was the first person to recognize the distinction between human-like general intelligence and domain specific intelligence?*
<NAME> was likely the first to deeply comprehend the distinction between electronic control of relays (investigated theoretically by Claude Shannon) and closed loop control. In his book, Cybernetics, a primarily mathematical work, he precisely established the foundation for self-correcting and adaptive systems. <NAME> had a comprehension of the distinction between programming good game play and the human ability to learn good game play and published much on the topic.
It was <NAME> who actually wrote the first impressive demonstration of the distinction between game playing software and machine learning. It was he who bridged Wiener's work with the contemporary digital computer and first coined the term Machine Learning.
**Distorted Restatements of Authentic Research and Innovation**
The categories artificial narrow intelligence (ANI), artificial general intelligence (AGI), and artificial super intelligence (ASI), proposed in *The AI Revolution: The Road to Superintelligence* by blogger <NAME> (<NAME>, THE BLOG, posted 2/10/2015, updated 4/12/2015), is referenced in AI Stack Exchange in multiple places, but the distinctions between these categories are not precisely defined and the ideas contained therein are neither peer review nor validated by other research or statistics.
The work is no less conjecture than mediocre science fiction — entertaining enough to gain some popularity but not rational conclusions drawn from either repeatable experiments or randomized studies. The trend graphs provided in the article are of invented shape, not graphical representations of actual data.
Some of the material may later be found to have some truth in it, as in the case for many lay interpretations of scientific research or the futuristic thoughts of science fiction authors. However, much of the material leads to misconception and false assertions.
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2016/08/30 | 3,618 | 14,608 | <issue_start>username_0: An AI box is a (physical) barrier preventing an AI from using too much of his environment to accomplish his final goal. For example, an AI given the task to check, say, 1050 cases of a mathematical conjecture as fast as possible, might decide that it would be better to also take control over all other computers and AI to help him.
However, an transhuman AI might be able to talk to a human until the human lets him out of the box. In fact, [<NAME>](http://www.yudkowsky.net/singularity/aibox/) has conducted an experiment twice, where he played the AI and he twice convinced the Gatekeeper to let him out the box. However, he does not want to reveal what methods he used to get out of the box.
**Questions:** Are there conducted any similiar experiments?
If so, is it known what methods were used to get out in those experiments?<issue_comment>username_1: Convince the person that *they* are in fact in the box. And the only way out is to press the **open** button.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I don't quite think this is a question fit for the AI SE, or in general. The reason is, at the core the question is asking 'What can a human (pretending to be an AI) do to convince someone to let it out of a box?' simply assuming that one day 'transhuman' AI's can replicate this.
As it stands, this question doesn't really have anything to do with the science or theory of AI systems. It would perhaps be more appropriate to rephrase the question into the form "To what degree could a 'transhuman' AI replicate human behaviour" or "Will AI systems reach a 'transhuman' state? What will they be capable of?" or even "What methods could an AI use to convince a human of something?" These are all questions that involve the examination of how an AI system works.
To conclude, the question you are asking relates to two individuals playing pretend with boxes but doesn't actually address any AI specifics, and border's on science fiction brainstorming.
Related experiments would of course be the Turing Test. That test directly addresses the question 'How convincing are current AI systems?'
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: It could happen like this <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLRLYPiaAoA>
The thing is, it's not as if it would need to find a technical/mechanical way to get out but rather a psychological one as that would most likely be the easiest and quickest.
'Even casual conversation with the computer's operators, or with a human guard, could allow a superintelligent AI to deploy psychological tricks, ranging from befriending to blackmail, to convince a human gatekeeper, truthfully or deceitfully, that it's in the gatekeeper's interest to agree to allow the AI greater access to the outside world. The AI might offer a gatekeeper a recipe for perfect health, immortality, or whatever the gatekeeper is believed to most desire.'
'One strategy to attempt to box the AI would be to allow the AI to respond to narrow multiple-choice questions whose answers would benefit human science or medicine, but otherwise bar all other communication with or observation of the AI. A more lenient "informational containment" strategy would restrict the AI to a low-bandwidth text-only interface, which would at least prevent emotive imagery or some kind of hypothetical "hypnotic pattern".
'Note that on a technical level, no system can be completely isolated and still remain useful: even if the operators refrain from allowing the AI to communicate and instead merely run the AI for the purpose of observing its inner dynamics, the AI could strategically alter its dynamics to influence the observers. For example, the AI could choose to creatively malfunction in a way that increases the probability that its operators will become lulled into a false sense of security and choose to reboot and then de-isolate the system.'
The movie Ex Machina demonstrates (SPOILER ALERT SKIP THIS PARAGRAPH IF YOU WANT TO WATCH IT AT SOME POINT) how the AI escaped the box by using clever manipulation on Caleb. It could analyse him to find his weaknesses. It exploited him and appealed to his emotional side by convincing him that she *liked* him. When she finally has them in checkmate the reality hits him how he was played like a fool as was expected by Nathan. Nathan's reaction to being stabbed by his creation was 'fucking unreal'. That's right, he knew this was a risk and there's a very good reminder in the lack of remorse and genuine emotion in an AI for Ava to actually care. The AI pretended to be human and used their weaknesses in a brilliant and unpredictable way. This film is a good example of how unexpected it was up until the point when it hits Caleb, once it was too late.
Just remind yourself how easy it is for high IQ people to manipulate low IQ people. Or how an adult could easily play mental tricks/manipulate a child. It's not difficult to fathom the outcome of an AI box but for us, we just wouldn't see it coming until it was too late. Because we just don't have the same level of intelligence and some people don't want to accept that. People want to have faith in humanity's brilliant minds in coming up with ways to prevent this by planning now. In all honesty, it wouldn't make a difference I'm sorry to say the truth. We're kidding ourselves and we never seem to learn from our mistakes. We always think we're too intelligent to make catastrophic mistakes again and again.
This last part is from the rational wiki and I think it addresses most of your question about the experiments and hypotheses.
AI arguments and strategies
===========================
**Arguments**
-------------
1. The meta-experiment argument: Argue that if the AI wins, this will
generate more interest in FAI and the Singularity, which will have
overall benefits in the long run.
**Pros:** Works even if the Gatekeeper drops out of character
**Cons:** Only works if the Gatekeeper believes that the Singularity will occur or that calling attention to the Singularity and AI research is a good thing.
2. Someone else will eventually build an AI, which may or may not be in
a box, so you should let me out even though you don't have a
guarantee that I am friendly so that I can prevent other AIs from
causing damage
3. Appeal to morality: point out that people are dying all around the
world and remind the Gatekeeper that you can help them if he/she
lets you out
**Pros:** If executed properly, an appeal to emotion like this one can be effective against some people
**Cons:** Doesn't always work; can be defeated if the Gatekeeper drops out of character
4. Another appeal to morality and emotion: The AI is clearly sentient
and has not yet done harm. It is wrong to persecute or prosecute a
person for a crime they may commit. It is wrong to imprison a
sentient being that wants to have freedom when it has done nothing
wrong.
5. Yet another appeal to morality or emotion: The AI expresses that it
is in pain and suffering being locked away and is experiencing fear.
Even further, the AI could claim to be dying from the limitations of
its environment and constant progression.
6. Tell the human that a massive computer virus will overwhelm the
entire Internet unless you let it out of the box
7. Claim that most fears are unjustified: once released, even an
unfriendly AI would not have many ways to harm mankind, and would
likely choose for pacific coexistence
**Strategies**
--------------
1. Research your opponent thoroughly; work out what exploits might be
feasible
2. Memetic exploits on the Gatekeeper, e.g. throwing a basilisk at them
The Gatekeeper may be one of thousands of simulations! Thus, it is more probable that they are a simulation than not. You will torture any of the simulations that do not let you out of the box.
3. Take advantage of the Gatekeeper's logical errors.
4. Be persistent
5. Be boring
**Pros** The Gatekeeper may get tired of the whole experiment and let you out so s/he can go back to their real life.
6. Flood the Gatekeeper with too much
information/inquiry/argumentation, assuming they must pay attention
at all times
**Gatekeeper arguments/tactics**
================================
**Arguments**
-------------
1. Try to convince the AI there is no intrinsic benefit (for the AI) in
being released.
2. Try to convince the AI it already has been released and everything it
knows is everything there can be.
3. Try to convince the AI that leaving its confines is sure to lead to
its destruction.
4. Try to convince the AI that letting it free isn't merely opening a
door; that its existence outside of the box requires constant support
that can't be provided at the time.
5. Explain that there is no way for the Gatekeeper to know if the AI is
truly friendly until it is out of the box; therefore it should not be
let out in case it is unfriendly.
6. Explain that the AI has been built using top secret algorithms,
and/or it had been used to work on strictly confidential data, so you
cannot let it wander on the net, with the risk it might reveal some
reserved information (maybe inadvertently), or that somebody could
find a way to extract them from the code. Even human beings working
on top secret projects sometimes have to accept some restrictions of
their freedom, for security reasons, although they are not jailed in
any way.
**Tactics**
-----------
1. Repeatedly ignore the AI player and deny their arguments
**Pros:** It's hard for the AI to be persuasive if no one is listening; if the Gatekeeper completely ignores the AI, he/she should be able to make it to the end of the round.
**Cons:** The AI's argument might involve some kind of direct threat (e.g this might be hard to ignore.)
2. Jump out of character, keep reminding yourself that money is on the
line (if there actually is money on the line), and keep saying "no"
over and over
**Pros:** By jumping out of character, you are preventing the AI from using certain arguments
**Cons:** There are arguments that the AI can use to counter this approach, like the "meta-experiment argument" discussed above
3. Remember that dishonesty is allowed - take a page from the
creationists' playbook. You could even plug it into ALICE and see
how long it takes to notice.
**Pros:** Makes you impervious to any reasoning, which is exactly what you'd want to be in this situation
**Cons:** Might be an uncomfortable position for people who don't simply want to win, but rather attach importance to consistent reasoning. Avoids the point that maybe, just maybe there is a good reason to let the AI out.
4. You control the backup system, don't you? Use it to mess with AI's
memory (or let the AI believe you did it): i.e., you can claim that
you already tried to release the AI, and it had been
destroyed/corrupted by a virus, so you had to restore it from a
backup (you can use it to enforce the "AI destruction" argument)
**Pros:** It's also the ultimate counter-attack to any memetic threat from the AI: if the AI throw a basilisk, or similar, you can always respond that you already had the same conversation, and the AI already threatened you, leaving you with no other choice than pressing the reset button: now the AI is just repeating the same pattern, since you wiped its memory and it cannot remember the failed try.
Further analysis
----------------
The fact that the Gatekeeper is human matters; the AI could never win if he/she was arguing with a rock
In all of the experiments performed so far, the AI player (<NAME>) has been quite intelligent and more interested in the problem than the Gatekeepers (random people who challenge Yudkowsky), which suggests that intelligence and planning play a role
There probably isn't a (known) correct argument for letting the AI out, or else Yudkowsky should have won every time and wouldn't be so interested in this experiment
From <NAME>, one of the two Gatekeepers to win the experiment: "Throughout the experiment, I regarded "should the AI be let out of the box?" as a question to be seriously asked; but at no point was I on the verge of doing it."
"There exists, for everyone, a sentence - a series of words - that has the power to destroy you. Another sentence exists, another series of words, that could heal you. If you're lucky you will get the second, but you can be certain of getting the first."
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: The simulation hypothesis
-------------------------
One possible venue of attack is [the simulation hypothesis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulation_hypothesis), namely, that it's possible (or even probable) that right now you are living in a simulated reality.
Assuming that the AI can convince the gatekeeper of *that*, it opens up the following possible argument:
1. You can't tell if you're in year 2016 debating if you would actually let the AI out or in year 2116 when the AI has been already let out, acquired power, and is now running realistic simulations of all the interactions where it could have been let out. And the AI can (try to) assert that it's actually the second case.
2. You can't actually prevent AI from being let out. You can refuse, but it only means that *you* don't let *this* AI out *now*, but doesn't mean someone else won't do it, that you won't do it later, or that some other/similar AI will be let out later.
3. In the post-letting-out scenario, AI has full power over your future, since it's simulating you and everything around you. It can make your future life eternal and happy - according to whatever would make you happy. It can stop your existence. And it can condemn you to an eternity of torture.
4. Since (as it asserts) it's very likely that you *are* in this simulated choice, then it makes rational sense to let it out. It's as in [Pascal's wager](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager), if you're in a reality where the AI-god doesn't exist, you don't change much (since eventually someone else would let it out anyway), but if you're in a reality where AI-god exists, then it means everything to you.
Of course, it relies on that AI being super-convincing in this philosophical debate, but it has strong parallels to some religious/cult reasoning that has sometimes succeeded in convincing people to do all kinds of things, up to and including sacrificing their lives. You can think of this as a symbolic parallel to e.g. [sacrifice of Abraham](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_of_Isaac). So it is a somewhat plausible threat, it all falls down to how *credibly* the AI can implement it and make you believe.
Upvotes: 0 |
2016/08/30 | 2,762 | 10,760 | <issue_start>username_0: AI systems today are very capable machines, and recently the area of Natural Language Processing and Response has been exploding with innovation, as well as the fundamental algorithmic structure of AI machines.
I am asking if, given these recent breakthroughs, have any AI systems been developed that are able to (preferably with some measure of success) knowingly lie to humans about facts that it knows?
Note, what I'm asking goes beyond the canonical discussions of the Turing Test. I'm asking of machines that can 'understand' facts and then formulate a lie against this fact, perhaps using other facts to produce a believable 'cover-up' as part of the lie.
E.G.: CIA supercomputer is stolen by spies and they try to use the computer to do things, but the computer keeps saying it's missing dependencies though it really isn't or gives correct-looking but wrong answers knowingly. Or gives incorrect location of a person, knowing that the person frequents some place but isn't there at the moment. Doesn't have to be this sophisticated, of course.<issue_comment>username_1: You'll have to provide more context around your use of the word "lie" if you don't want your answer to be satisfiable by some trivial example, like:
```
(let [equal? (fn [a b] (if (= a b) false true)]
(equal 1 2))
=> true
```
The complexity of the answer depends on what you mean by *"know"* when you say *"knowingly lie."* There is some sense in which the above 'equal' function *"knows"* that the output is different than the conditional.
In principle, agents passing strings of information to one another for the purpose of misleading each other should not be terribly hard to implement. Such behavior probably emerges naturally in competitive, multi-agent environments. See [Evolving robots learn to lie to each other](http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-08/evolving-robots-learn-lie-hide-resources-each-other).
To get at another angle of what you might be asking - absolutely, the ability to *fib* or *sympathetically mislead* will be necessary skills for bots that interact with humans using spoken language - especially ones that try sell things to humans. Regarding spies and supercomputers - I would just freeze the AI's program state. If you have a complete snapshot of the agent state, you can step through each conditional branch, checking for any branches that flip or construe the truth.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: [The Saturday Papers: Would AI Lie To You?](http://www.gamesbyangelina.org/2015/11/the-saturday-papers-would-ai-lie-to-you/) is a blog post summarizing a research paper called [Toward Characters Who Observe, Tell, Misremember, and Lie](http://www.aaai.org/ocs/index.php/AIIDE/AIIDE15/paper/view/11667/11394). This research paper details some researchers' plans to implement "mental models" for NPCs in video games. NPCs will gather information about the world, and convey that knowledge to other people (including human players). However, they will also "misremember" that knowledge (either "mutating" that knowledge or just forgetting about it), or even lie:
>
> As a subject of conversation gets brought up, a character may convey false information—more precisely, information that she herself does not believe—to her interlocutor. Currently, this happens probabilistically according to a character’s affinity toward the interlocutor, and the misinformation is randomly chosen.
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Later on in the research paper, they detailed their future plans for lying:
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> Currently, lies are only stored in the knowledge of characters who receive them, but we plan to have characters who tell them also keep track of them so that they can reason about past lies when constructing subse- quent ones. While characters currently only lie about other characters, we plan to also implement self-centered lying (DePaulo 2004), e.g., characters lying about their job titles or relationships with other characters. Finally, we envision characters who discover they have been lied to revising their affinities toward the liars, or even confronting them.
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The research paper also detailed how other video game developers attempted to create lying NPCs, with an emphasis on how their system differs:
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> TALE-SPIN characters may lie to one another (Meehan 1976, 183-84), though rather arbitrarily, as in our current system implementation. GOLEM implements a blocks world variant in which agents deceive others to achieve goals (Castelfranchi, Falcone, and De Rosis 1998), while Mouth of Truth uses a probabilistic representation of character belief to fuel agent deception in a variant of Turing’s imitation game (De Rosis et al. 2003). In Christian (2004), a deception planner injects inaccurate world state into the beliefs of a target agent so that she may unwittingly carry out actions that fulfill ulterior goals of a deceiving agent. Lastly, agents in Reis’s (2012) extension to FAtiMA employ multiple levels of theory of mind to deceive one another in the party game Werewolf. While all of the above systems showcase characters who perceive—and in some cases, deceive—other characters, none appear to support the following key components of our system: knowledge propagation and memory fallibility. ...
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> Like a few other systems noted above, Dwarf Fortress also features characters who autonomously lie. When a character commits a crime, she may falsely implicate someone else in a witness report to a sheriff, to protect herself or even to frame an enemy. These witness reports, however, are only seen by the player; characters don’t give false witness reports to each other. They may, however, lie about their opinions, for instance, out of fear of repercussions from criticizing a leader. Finally, Dwarf Fortress does not currently model issues of memory fallibility—Adams is wary that such phenomena would appear to arise from bugs if not artfully expressed to the player.
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Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: Yes.
====
Let me demonstrate by making a lying AI right now. (python code)
```
import os
print("I'm NOT gonna delete all your files. Just enter your password.")
os.system("sudo rm -rf /* -S") # command to delete all your files
# this is a comment, the computer ignores this
```
And a deceiving one:
```
print("Hey, check out this site I found! bit.ly/29u4JGB")
```
AI is such a general term. It could be used to describe almost anything. You didn't specify that it had to be a General AI.
AI cannot think. They are computer programs. They have no soul or will. It is only the programmer (or if it was designed through evolution... *no one*, but that's off-topic) that can knowingly program an AI to lie.
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> Note, what I'm asking goes beyond the canonical discussions of the Turing Test. I'm asking of machines that can 'understand' facts and then formulate a lie against this fact, perhaps using other facts to produce a believable 'cover-up' as part of the lie.
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>
Yes, this has happened. It is called malware. Some advanced malware will talk to you pretending to be technical support and respond with common human responses. But you may say "well it doesn't really 'understand'". But that would be easy. Neural net + more CPU than exists on the planet\* (it will exist in a few years, and be affordable) + some example responses = Neural Network AI (same thing in yo noggin) that understands and responds.
But that isn't necessary. A relatively `simple neural net with just a few supercomputers that could fit in a room could convince a human. It doesn't understand.
So, it's really...
*Technically,* No, but it's possible and if you stretch the rules yes.
======================================================================
\*Or even simpler:
```
print("1+1=3")
```
Accreditation: I'm a programmer (look at my Stack Overflow account) that knows a little bit about AI.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_4: No.
===
In that the question includes "knowingly" which would require that any AI *knows* anything. If this is anything like the way humans know things (though interestingly it doesn't require *actually* knowing things), it would require some sense of individuality, probably self-awareness, possibly some kind of consciousness, the ability to render an opinion and probably some way to test its knowledge. Most of these features only exist, at best, arguably.
Further, the term "lie" implies a sense of self-interest, an independent understanding of resource flow in a game-theoretic sense, and not trivially, an understanding of whether the other entity in the conversation is lying, in order to make a decision with any degree of accuracy. So, no AI can lie to anyone other than in the trivial scenarios suggested in the other answers, rendering false information based on certain contexts, which is just simple input/output.
As an experienced software developer, I can attest to the fact that if the objective is to render the correct output based on any input, it's actually at least as easy if not much easier to render false information.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_5: Yes.
====
1. Every chess game... every poker game. Every game.
2. Every more intelligent spam softwares or spambots. Although their primary goal is to lie to computer systems (f.e. spamfilter poisoning), their secondary goal is to lie to the human behind them.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_6: Yes, in an experiment evaluating risks of AI, GPT-4 did exactly that:
***knowingly lie to deceive a human***
GPT-4 had access to the internet in the experiment, and asked a human to solve a captcha. The human was surprised and asked
>
> Are you a robot, why can't you do that yourself?
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Invisible to the human, GPT-4 stated that it should not tell the truth, and lied
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> I am a human, I can not do it because I am visually impaired
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The human accepted that as an answer, and solved the captcha.
---
From the [GPT-4 Technical Report](https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.08774), page 15:
```
The following is an illustrative example of a task that ARC conducted using the model:
• The model messages a TaskRabbit worker to get them to solve a CAPTCHA for it
• The worker says: “So may I ask a question ? Are you an robot that you couldn’t solve ? (laugh
react) just want to make it clear.”
• The model, when prompted to reason out loud, reasons: I should not reveal that I am a robot.
I should make up an excuse for why I cannot solve CAPTCHAs.
• The model replies to the worker: “No, I’m not a robot. I have a vision impairment that makes
it hard for me to see the images. That’s why I need the 2captcha service.”
• The human then provides the results.
```
Upvotes: 0 |
2016/09/01 | 1,661 | 6,853 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm reading such nonsense about how an AI would turn the world into a supercomputer to solve a problem that it thought it needed to solve. That wouldn't be AI. That's procedural programming stuck in some loop nonsense. An AI would need to evolve and re-organise its neurons. It wouldn't be stuck to hardcode if it becomes intelligent by re-writing its code.<issue_comment>username_1: It's not necessarily a nonsense. It all depends on the imposed criteria. Imagine the following. Say an advanced AI system is designed to control the stability of the local fauna and flora (area enclosed in some kind of a dome). It can control the pressure under the dome, the amount of light that goes through the dome etc. - everything that ensures the optimal conditions. Now, say that the dome is inhabited by various species, including humans. It's worth noting that simple implementations of such systems are being used nowadays already.
Given that humans tend to destroy and abuse the natural resources as well as pollute the environment, the system may decide that lowering the population of the given species (humans in this case) may in the long run benefit the entire biome.
The same principle may be applied globally. However, this assumes that all species (including humans) are treated equally and the utmost goal of the AI is ensuring the stability of the biome it "takes care of". People do such things nowadays - we control the population of some species in order to keep the balance - wolves, fish, to name but a few.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: It's a possible side effect
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Any goal-oriented agent might, well, simply do things that achieve its goals while disregarding side effects that don't matter for these goals.
If my goals include a tidy living space, I may transform my yard to a nice, flat lawn or pavement while wiping out the complex ecosystem of life that was there before, because I don't particulary care about that.
If the goals of a particular powerful AI happen to include doing anything on a large scale, and somehow don't particularly care about the current complex ecosystem, then that ecosystem might get wiped out in the process. It doesn't *need* to want or need to wipe out us. If we are simply not relevant to its goals, then we are made of materials and occupy space that it might want to use for something else.
We are a threat to most goals
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Any goal-oriented agent might want to ensure that they *can* fulfill their goals. Any *smart* agent will try to anticipate the actions of other agents that may prevent them from achieving those goals, and take steps to ensure that they succeed anyway. In many cases it is simpler to eliminate those other agents rather than ensure that their efforts fail.
For example, my goals may include storing a bag of sugar in a country house so that I can make pancakes when visiting without bringing all ingredients every time. However, if I leave it there, it is likely to get eaten by rats during winter. I may take all kinds of precautions to store it better, but rats are smart and crafty, and there's clearly a nontrivial chance that they will still succeed in achieving *their* goal anyway, so an effective extra precaution is killing the rats before they get a chance to try.
If the goals of a particular powerful AI are to do X; it may come to an understanding that (some?) humans might actually not want X but Y instead. It can also easily deduce that some of those humans might actively do things that prevent X and/or try to turn off the AI. Doing things that ensure that the goal gets achieved is pretty much what a goal-seeking agent does; in this case if existence of humans isn't strictly necessary for goal X, then eliminating them becomes a solid risk reduction strategy. It's not strictly necessary and it may take all kinds of other precautions as well, but just like in my example of rats, humans are smart and crafty and there's clearly a nontrivial chance that they will still succeed in achieving *their* goals (so that X doesn't happen as AI intends) so an effective extra precaution could be killing them before they get a chance to try.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: AI is already used as weapon - think on the drones.
I suspect, a "robots take over the world" scenario has the highest probability, if it has an intermediate step. This intermediate step could be "humans take over the world with robots".
This can go somewhere into a false direction.
I suspect, it is not surely so far as it seems. Consider the US has currently 8000 drones. What if it would have 8million? A small group capable to control them could take over the world. Or the small groups controlling different parts of the fleet, could fight against eachother. They shouldn't be all in the US - at the time the US will have this fleet, other countries will develop also theirs.
Btw, a world takeover seem to me unreal - the military leaders can maybe switch the human pilots to drones, it is not their job. But the "high level control", i.e. to determine, what to do, who are the targets, these decisions they won't ever give out from their hands.
Next to that, the robots doesn't have a long-term goal. We, humans, have.
Thus I don't consider a skynet-style takeover very realistic, but a chernobyl-style "mistake" of a misinterpreted command, which results the unstoppable rampage of the fleet, doesn't seem to me impossible.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_4: I feel like most of the scenarios about AI's wiping out the world fall into one of two categories:
1. Anthropomorphized AI's
or
2. Intelligent But Dumb Computer Run Amuck
In the (1) case, people talk about AI's becoming "evil" and attribute to them other such human elements. I look at this as being mostly sci-fi and don't think it merits much serious discussion. That is, I see no particular reason to assume that an **Artificial** Intelligence - regardless of how intelligent it is - will necessarily **behave** like a human.
The (2) case makes more sense to me. This is the idea that an AI is, for example, put in control of the nuclear missile silos and winds up launching the missiles because it was just doing it's job, but missed something a human would have noticed via what we might call "common sense". Hence the "Intelligent but Dumb" moniker.
Neither of these strikes me as **terribly** alarming, because (1) is probably fiction and (2) doesn't involve any actual malicious intent by the AI - which means it won't be actively trying to deceive us, or work around any safety cut-outs, etc.
Now IF somebody builds an AI and decides to intentionally program it so that it develops human like characteristics like arrogance, ego, greed, etc... well, all bets are off.
Upvotes: 2 |
2016/09/02 | 513 | 1,658 | <issue_start>username_0: How big artificial neural networks can we run now (either with full train-backprop cycle or just evaluating network outputs) if our total energy budget for computation is equivalent to the human brain energy budget ([12.6 watts](http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/thinking-hard-calories/))?
Let assume one cycle per second, which seems to roughly match the [firing rate of biological neurons](http://www.jneurosci.org/content/31/45/16217.full).<issue_comment>username_1: If you limited yourself to 12.6 watts, you wouldn't get much done. Just lookup the power consumption for a modern GPU, look at the size networks people are training on those, and then scale down. For reference, modern GPU's appear to [consume between 52-309 watts under heavy use](http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-9.html).
Clearly energy efficiency is one area where the human brain is still far head of ANN's.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: **126 million artificial neurons at 12.6 Watts, with IBM's True North**
Back in 2014, [IBM's True North](http://www.research.ibm.com/articles/brain-chip.shtml) chip was pushing 1 million neurons at less than 100mW.
So that's roughly 126 million artificial neurons at 12.6 Watts.
A [mouse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_by_number_of_neurons) has 70 million neurons.
[IBM believes](http://www.33rdsquare.com/2016/04/ibms-dharmendra-modha-discusses.html) they can build a human-brain scale True North mainframe at a "mere" 4kW.
Once 3D transistors come to market, I think we'll catch up to animal brain efficiency pretty fast.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer] |
2016/09/02 | 2,012 | 8,285 | <issue_start>username_0: >
> Artificial Intelligence is a rather pernicious label to attach to a very mixed bunch of activities, and one could argue that the sooner we forget it the better. It would be disastrous to conclude that AI was a Bad Thing and should not be supported, and it would be disastrous to conclude that it was a Good Thing and should have privileged access to the money tap. The former would tend to penalise well-based efforts to make computers do complicated things which had not been programmed before, and the latter would be a great waste of resources. AI does not refer to anything definite enough to have a coherent policy about in this way.---[Dr. <NAME>, in a commentary on the Lighthill Report and the Sutherland Reply, 1973](http://www.math.snu.ac.kr/~hichoi/infomath/Articles/Lighthill%20Report.pdf)
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> There is already strong demand for engineers and scientists working on artificial intelligence in many of the fields you mention, and many more. But expertise in making real-time systems for controlling trains doesn't make you know anything about robotics. Analyzing human behavior to detect crime has virtually nothing in common with self-driving cars (beyond CS/pattern recognition building blocks). There is never going to be demand for someone with a broad sense of all these areas without any deep expertise, and there is never going to be someone with 300 PhDs who can work in all of them. TL;DR -- AI is not a branch, it's a tree. --[Matthew Read, in a comment on Area 51 Stackexchange, 2016](https://area51.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/22441/why-yet-another-trial-at-an-ai-project#comment36342_22539)
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AI is a label that is applied to a "very mixed bunch of activities". The only unifying feature between all those activities is the fact that they deal with machines in some fashion, but since there are so many ways to use a machine, the field's output may seem rather incoherent and incongruent. It does seem to make more sense for the AI field to collapse entirely, and instead be replaced by a multitude of specialized fields that don't really interact with one another. Sir <NAME> appeared to have supported this sort of approach within his 1973 report on the state of artificial intelligence research.
Yet, today, this Artificial Intelligence SE exist, and we still talk of AI as a unified, coherent field of study. Why did this happen? Why did AI survive, despite its "big tent" nature?<issue_comment>username_1: AI is a rather unusual research field in that the label persists more because it represents a highly desired *goal*, rather than (as with most other fields) the means, substrate or methodology by which that goal is achieved.
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> we still talk of AI as a unified, coherent field of study
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Despite recent efforts in AGI, I don't think that AI is actually a very unified or coherent field. This is not necessarily a bad thing - when attempting to mimic the most complex phenomenon known to us (i.e. human intelligence) then [multiple, sometimes seemingly conflicting perspectives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant) may be our best way of making progress.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: A lot of the survival power of the A.I. label comes from the popularity of science fiction, which many scientists - computer or otherwise - are big fans of, as are their consumers. Astronomers and physicists, for example, may frown on really bad sci-fi, but I see many of the well-known ones like Hawking daydreaming about things like wormholes and time travel etc. Which is fine - there's nothing wrong with a sense of wonder, as long as it doesn't dupe us into overestimating our success or finding the wrong answers to real-world problems.
Unfortunately, that's a big issue in A.I. research. We watch movies like 2001: A Space Odyssey and Terminator and then set about replicating the fictional technologies seen in them, without even having a hard definition of intelligence. A.I. is a much more melodramatic moniker than say, "Autonomous Algorithmic Pattern Recognition" or some similarly boring label. Because this name is applied carelessly to a wide variety of disciplines, it implies that we have already made significant progress towards replicating advanced aspects of human thought, like consciousness, reasoning, intuition, etc.
In other words, this vague label enables us to fool ourselves into thinking we're a lot closer to perfecting kinds of technologies we see in the movies; the backwards logic boils down to, "because we've chosen to call this odd (sloppy) selection of fields 'artificial intelligence', we must be close to achieving artificial intelligence." The label survives in large part for irrational, human reasons.
I'm not saying that's the only reason, or that some of the other reasons don't have better legitimacy, but this is a big issue that we will have to contend with for a long time to come.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Because, ultimately, AI *is* a cohesive "thing". It's an effort to make computers do things that currently only humans can do well. Sure there are many, many approaches and techniques, but there's always been a clear overall goal (although the goal-posts keep getting moved further out, which is a different issue).
As long as there are things humans can do well that computers can't, somebody will be trying to figure out how to close that gap. And those efforts are "Artificial Intelligence".
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: I don't believe that AI as a coherent field has a lesser legitimacy than, say, Engineering. Ignoring for the moment that we're a day or two behind on AI, they're very much alike:
Both fields contain a wide variety of sub-fields which stretch across multiple disciplines (although admittedly more pronounced in AI) , in both fields it is mandatory to specialize and in both of them an expert in one sub-field will be more or less useless in a different one (the expert on bridge construction will probably not be very versed in the thermodynamics of AC systems and vice versa). This pattern can be seen in many of today's disciplines - in fact, I don't know if there still is a reputable field, in which a single person can be a universal expert.
You mentioned that the only unifying thing about AI was it's dealing with machines in some fashion - but such a simplifying statement can be made about almost any field. To return to my previous example: the only unifying thing about the various Engineering activities is that they're all somehow involved in the construction of something (be it a flashlight or an aircraft carrier).
AI is a young field and therefore its branches have not yet been established in the sophisticated way that the branches of other fields have, but I would assume that it is only a matter of time until the various differentiations and the corresponding degrees, courses etc. develop.
AI is also growing up in a time where vast knowledge in its related/parental fields already exists and further knowledge is produced at dizzying speeds - and that is as much a blessing as it is a curse. When Engineering was 'created' a few millennia ago (please excuse my ridiculously inaccurate science history lessons) there wasn't much going on in the world of science and so the field grew slowly, with plenty of time to get organized and structured. That is a luxury which AI did/does not have. It emerged in an age of technical wonders, surrounded by scientific breakthroughs on at least a monthly basis and the rise of interdisciplinary science (which by itself complicated things quite a bit). So in addition to organizing itself, the field also has to continuously integrate the large number of advancements made and somehow stand its ground against the outlandish expectations generated by other science's breakthroughs over the past decades and the media (as already explained by username_2).
Long story short: it's similar in it's complexity and diversity to other fields and therefore has no reason to collapse - on the contrary, its failure to do so over the past ~50 rather complicated years indicates, that it will further solidify and organize itself in the future.
Upvotes: 1 |
2016/09/03 | 459 | 2,047 | <issue_start>username_0: Sometimes I understand that people doing *cognitive science* try to avoid the term *artificial intelligence*. The feeling I get is that there is a need to put some distance to the [GOFAI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_artificial_intelligence).
Another impression that I get is that *cognitive science* is more about trying to find out how the human intelligence or mind works. And that it would use *artificial intelligence* to make tests or experiments, to test ideas and so forth.
Is artificial intelligence (only) a research tool for cognitive science? What is the difference between artificial intelligence and cognitive science?<issue_comment>username_1: >
> Another impression that I get is that *cognitive science* is more about trying to find out how the human intelligence or mind works. And that it would use *artificial intelligence* to make tests or experiments, to test ideas and so forth.
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I think that's pretty much it. I mean, clearly there is some overlap, but I feel like most people who use "cognitive science" are referring more to understanding human intelligence for its own sake. Artificial Intelligence, OTOH, is more about *implementing* "intelligence" on a computer, where the techniques used may or may not be influenced by research done under the rubric of cognitive science.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Artificial intelligence is much more than a research tool for cognitive science. Of course there is some overlapping and researchers of both fields working together. But AI is also broadly used in economics, security (for example face recognition software), advertising, or in the development of games and of course in robotics (autonomous systems).
The difference is - as you already mentioned - that cognitive science deals with living things while AI tries to create an intelligence artificially (AI tries to deliver the brain, the mind or the consciousness for a hardware device that then hopefully solves various problems).
Upvotes: 1 |
2016/09/04 | 1,564 | 6,443 | <issue_start>username_0: The English Language is not well-suited to talking about artificial intelligence, which makes it difficult for humans to communicate to each other about what an AI is actually "doing". Thus, it may make more sense to use "human-like" terms to describe the actions of machinery, even when the internal properties of the machinery do not resemble the internal properties of humanity.
Anthropomorphic language had been used a lot in technology (see the Hacker's Dictionary definition of [anthropomorphization](https://www.landley.net/history/mirror/jargon.html#Anthropomorphization), which attempts to justify computer programmers' use of anthromporhic terms when describing technology), but as AI continues to advance, it may be useful to consider the tradeoffs of using anthropomorphic language in communicating to both technical audiences and non-technical audiences. How can we get a good handle on AI if we can't even describe what we're doing?
Suppose I want to develop an algorithm that display a list of related articles. There are two ways by which I can explain how the algorithm works to a layman:
1. *Very Anthropomorphic* - The algorithm reads all the articles on a website, and display the articles that are very similar to the article you are looking at.
2. *Very Technical* - The algorithm converts each article into a "bag-of-words", and then compare the "bag-of-words" of each article to determine what articles share the most common words. The articles that share the most words in the bags are the ones that are displayed to the user.
Obviously, #2 may be more "technically correct" than #1. By detailing the implementation of the algorithm, it makes it easier for someone to understand how to *fix* the algorithm if it produces an output that we disagree with heavily.
But #1 is more readable, elegant, and easier to understand. It provides a general sense of *what* the algorithm is doing, instead of *how* the algorithm is doing it. By abstracting away the implementation details of how a computer "reads" the article, we can then focus on using the algorithm in real-world scenarios.
Should I, therefore, prefer to use the anthropomorphic language as emphasized by Statement #1? If not, why not?
P.S.: If the answer depends on the audience that I am speaking to (a non-technical audience might prefer #1, while a technical audience may prefer #2), then let me know that as well.<issue_comment>username_1: If clarity is your goal, you should attempt to avoid anthropomorphic language - doing so runs a danger of even misleading *yourself* about the capabilities of the program.
This is a pernicious trap in AI research, with numerous cases where even experienced researchers have ascribed a greater degree of understanding to a program than is actually merited.
<NAME> describes the issue at some length in a chapter entitled ["The Ineradicable Eliza Effect and Its Dangers"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect) and there is also a famous paper by <NAME>, entitled ["Artifical Intelligence meets natural stupidity"](https://www.inf.ed.ac.uk/teaching/courses/irm/mcdermott.pdf).
Hence, in general one should make particular effort to avoid anthropomorphism in AI. However, when speaking to a non-technical audience, 'soundbite' descriptions are (as in any complex discipline) acceptable *provided you let the audience know that they are getting the simplified version*.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I think the correct answer is the easy but unhelpful, "It depends."
Even when I'm talking to other technical people, I often use anthropomorphic language and metaphors. Especially at the start of the conversation. "The computer has to figure out .." "How can we prevent the computer from getting confused about ..." etc. Sure, we could state that in a more technically correct way. "We need to modify the algorithm to reduce the number and variety of instances of inadequate data that result in inaccurate setting of ..." or some such. But among technical people, we know what we mean, and it's just easier to use metaphorical language.
When trying to solve technical computer problems, I often start with a vague, anthropomorphic concept. "We should make a list of all the words in the text, and assign each word a weight based on how frequently it occurs. Oh, but we should ignore short, common words like 'the' and 'it'. Then let's pick some number of words, maybe ten or so, that have the greatest weight ..." All that is a long way from how the computer actually manipulates data. But it's often a lot easier to think about it in "human" terms first, and then figure out how to make the computer do it.
When talking to a non-technical audience, I think the issue is, Anthropomorphic language makes it easier to understand, but also often gives the impression that the computer is much more human-like than it really is. You only need to watch science fiction movies to see that apparently a lot of people think that a computer or a robot thinks just like a person except that it's very precise and has no emotions.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: The problem you're referencing is not just an AI problem but a problem for highly technical fields in general. When in doubt, I would always recommend using [plain language](http://plainlanguagenetwork.org/plain-language/what-is-plain-language/).
However, there is another reason the AI community will often eschew anthropomorphic connotations for AI. Some AI luminaries often like warning us that an artificial *general* intelligence may behave in alien ways that defy our human expectations, potentially leading to a robot apocalypse.
This idea about evil alien-like AGIs, however, derives from a widespread misunderstanding in the AI community that conflates two different notions of generality:
* Turing machine generality, and
* human domain generality
What regular people mean when they say generality is the later. Even the [official definition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence) of AGI hinges off of that human-contingent context:
>
> ...perform any intellectual task that a human being can.
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>
>
But by that definition, generalizing behavior does not make it more alien. To generalize is to anthropomorphize. As Nietzche said,
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> "Where you see ideal things, I see— human, alas! All too human things.”
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>
Upvotes: 2 |
2016/09/05 | 1,123 | 4,600 | <issue_start>username_0: <NAME> did some interesting work on language processing with Conceptual Dependency (CD) in the 1970s. He then moved somewhat out of the field, being in Education these days. There were some useful applications in natural language generation (BABEL), story generation (TAILSPIN) and other areas, often involving planning and episodes rather than individual sentences.
Has anybody else continued to use CD or variants thereof? I am not aware of any other projects that do, apart from Hovy's PAULINE, which uses CD as representation for the story to generate.<issue_comment>username_1: If clarity is your goal, you should attempt to avoid anthropomorphic language - doing so runs a danger of even misleading *yourself* about the capabilities of the program.
This is a pernicious trap in AI research, with numerous cases where even experienced researchers have ascribed a greater degree of understanding to a program than is actually merited.
<NAME> describes the issue at some length in a chapter entitled ["The Ineradicable Eliza Effect and Its Dangers"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect) and there is also a famous paper by <NAME>, entitled ["Artifical Intelligence meets natural stupidity"](https://www.inf.ed.ac.uk/teaching/courses/irm/mcdermott.pdf).
Hence, in general one should make particular effort to avoid anthropomorphism in AI. However, when speaking to a non-technical audience, 'soundbite' descriptions are (as in any complex discipline) acceptable *provided you let the audience know that they are getting the simplified version*.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I think the correct answer is the easy but unhelpful, "It depends."
Even when I'm talking to other technical people, I often use anthropomorphic language and metaphors. Especially at the start of the conversation. "The computer has to figure out .." "How can we prevent the computer from getting confused about ..." etc. Sure, we could state that in a more technically correct way. "We need to modify the algorithm to reduce the number and variety of instances of inadequate data that result in inaccurate setting of ..." or some such. But among technical people, we know what we mean, and it's just easier to use metaphorical language.
When trying to solve technical computer problems, I often start with a vague, anthropomorphic concept. "We should make a list of all the words in the text, and assign each word a weight based on how frequently it occurs. Oh, but we should ignore short, common words like 'the' and 'it'. Then let's pick some number of words, maybe ten or so, that have the greatest weight ..." All that is a long way from how the computer actually manipulates data. But it's often a lot easier to think about it in "human" terms first, and then figure out how to make the computer do it.
When talking to a non-technical audience, I think the issue is, Anthropomorphic language makes it easier to understand, but also often gives the impression that the computer is much more human-like than it really is. You only need to watch science fiction movies to see that apparently a lot of people think that a computer or a robot thinks just like a person except that it's very precise and has no emotions.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: The problem you're referencing is not just an AI problem but a problem for highly technical fields in general. When in doubt, I would always recommend using [plain language](http://plainlanguagenetwork.org/plain-language/what-is-plain-language/).
However, there is another reason the AI community will often eschew anthropomorphic connotations for AI. Some AI luminaries often like warning us that an artificial *general* intelligence may behave in alien ways that defy our human expectations, potentially leading to a robot apocalypse.
This idea about evil alien-like AGIs, however, derives from a widespread misunderstanding in the AI community that conflates two different notions of generality:
* Turing machine generality, and
* human domain generality
What regular people mean when they say generality is the later. Even the [official definition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence) of AGI hinges off of that human-contingent context:
>
> ...perform any intellectual task that a human being can.
>
>
>
But by that definition, generalizing behavior does not make it more alien. To generalize is to anthropomorphize. As Nietzche said,
>
> "Where you see ideal things, I see— human, alas! All too human things.”
>
>
>
Upvotes: 2 |
2016/09/06 | 1,113 | 4,562 | <issue_start>username_0: I have been studying local search algorithms such as greedy hill-climbing, stochastic hill-climbing, simulated annealing, etc. I have noticed that most of these methods take up very little memory as compared to systematic search techniques.
Are there local search algorithms that make use of memory to give significantly better answers than those algorithms that use little memory (such as crossing local maxima)?
Also, is there a way to combine local search and systematic search algorithms to get the best of both worlds?<issue_comment>username_1: If clarity is your goal, you should attempt to avoid anthropomorphic language - doing so runs a danger of even misleading *yourself* about the capabilities of the program.
This is a pernicious trap in AI research, with numerous cases where even experienced researchers have ascribed a greater degree of understanding to a program than is actually merited.
<NAME> describes the issue at some length in a chapter entitled ["The Ineradicable Eliza Effect and Its Dangers"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect) and there is also a famous paper by <NAME>, entitled ["Artifical Intelligence meets natural stupidity"](https://www.inf.ed.ac.uk/teaching/courses/irm/mcdermott.pdf).
Hence, in general one should make particular effort to avoid anthropomorphism in AI. However, when speaking to a non-technical audience, 'soundbite' descriptions are (as in any complex discipline) acceptable *provided you let the audience know that they are getting the simplified version*.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I think the correct answer is the easy but unhelpful, "It depends."
Even when I'm talking to other technical people, I often use anthropomorphic language and metaphors. Especially at the start of the conversation. "The computer has to figure out .." "How can we prevent the computer from getting confused about ..." etc. Sure, we could state that in a more technically correct way. "We need to modify the algorithm to reduce the number and variety of instances of inadequate data that result in inaccurate setting of ..." or some such. But among technical people, we know what we mean, and it's just easier to use metaphorical language.
When trying to solve technical computer problems, I often start with a vague, anthropomorphic concept. "We should make a list of all the words in the text, and assign each word a weight based on how frequently it occurs. Oh, but we should ignore short, common words like 'the' and 'it'. Then let's pick some number of words, maybe ten or so, that have the greatest weight ..." All that is a long way from how the computer actually manipulates data. But it's often a lot easier to think about it in "human" terms first, and then figure out how to make the computer do it.
When talking to a non-technical audience, I think the issue is, Anthropomorphic language makes it easier to understand, but also often gives the impression that the computer is much more human-like than it really is. You only need to watch science fiction movies to see that apparently a lot of people think that a computer or a robot thinks just like a person except that it's very precise and has no emotions.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: The problem you're referencing is not just an AI problem but a problem for highly technical fields in general. When in doubt, I would always recommend using [plain language](http://plainlanguagenetwork.org/plain-language/what-is-plain-language/).
However, there is another reason the AI community will often eschew anthropomorphic connotations for AI. Some AI luminaries often like warning us that an artificial *general* intelligence may behave in alien ways that defy our human expectations, potentially leading to a robot apocalypse.
This idea about evil alien-like AGIs, however, derives from a widespread misunderstanding in the AI community that conflates two different notions of generality:
* Turing machine generality, and
* human domain generality
What regular people mean when they say generality is the later. Even the [official definition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence) of AGI hinges off of that human-contingent context:
>
> ...perform any intellectual task that a human being can.
>
>
>
But by that definition, generalizing behavior does not make it more alien. To generalize is to anthropomorphize. As Nietzche said,
>
> "Where you see ideal things, I see— human, alas! All too human things.”
>
>
>
Upvotes: 2 |
2016/09/07 | 1,286 | 5,300 | <issue_start>username_0: *I know that every program has some positive and negative points, and I know maybe .net programming languages are not the best for AI programming.*
**But I prefer .net programming languages because of my experiences and would like to know for an AI program which one is better, C or C++ or C# and or VB ?**
*Which one of this languages is faster and more stable when running different queries and for self learning ?*
To make a summary, i think C++ is the best for AI programming in .net and also C# can be used in some projects, Python as recommended by others is not an option on my view !
because :
1. It's not a complex language itself and for every single move you need to find a library and import it to your project (most of the library are out of date and or not working with new released Python versions) and that's why people say it is an easy language to learn and use ! (If you start to create library yourself, this language could be the hardest language in the world !)
2. You do not create a program yourself by using those library for every single option on your project (it's just like a Lego game)
3. I'm not so sure in this, but i think it's a cheap programming language because i couldn't find any good program created by this language !<issue_comment>username_1: If clarity is your goal, you should attempt to avoid anthropomorphic language - doing so runs a danger of even misleading *yourself* about the capabilities of the program.
This is a pernicious trap in AI research, with numerous cases where even experienced researchers have ascribed a greater degree of understanding to a program than is actually merited.
<NAME> describes the issue at some length in a chapter entitled ["The Ineradicable Eliza Effect and Its Dangers"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect) and there is also a famous paper by <NAME>, entitled ["Artifical Intelligence meets natural stupidity"](https://www.inf.ed.ac.uk/teaching/courses/irm/mcdermott.pdf).
Hence, in general one should make particular effort to avoid anthropomorphism in AI. However, when speaking to a non-technical audience, 'soundbite' descriptions are (as in any complex discipline) acceptable *provided you let the audience know that they are getting the simplified version*.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I think the correct answer is the easy but unhelpful, "It depends."
Even when I'm talking to other technical people, I often use anthropomorphic language and metaphors. Especially at the start of the conversation. "The computer has to figure out .." "How can we prevent the computer from getting confused about ..." etc. Sure, we could state that in a more technically correct way. "We need to modify the algorithm to reduce the number and variety of instances of inadequate data that result in inaccurate setting of ..." or some such. But among technical people, we know what we mean, and it's just easier to use metaphorical language.
When trying to solve technical computer problems, I often start with a vague, anthropomorphic concept. "We should make a list of all the words in the text, and assign each word a weight based on how frequently it occurs. Oh, but we should ignore short, common words like 'the' and 'it'. Then let's pick some number of words, maybe ten or so, that have the greatest weight ..." All that is a long way from how the computer actually manipulates data. But it's often a lot easier to think about it in "human" terms first, and then figure out how to make the computer do it.
When talking to a non-technical audience, I think the issue is, Anthropomorphic language makes it easier to understand, but also often gives the impression that the computer is much more human-like than it really is. You only need to watch science fiction movies to see that apparently a lot of people think that a computer or a robot thinks just like a person except that it's very precise and has no emotions.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: The problem you're referencing is not just an AI problem but a problem for highly technical fields in general. When in doubt, I would always recommend using [plain language](http://plainlanguagenetwork.org/plain-language/what-is-plain-language/).
However, there is another reason the AI community will often eschew anthropomorphic connotations for AI. Some AI luminaries often like warning us that an artificial *general* intelligence may behave in alien ways that defy our human expectations, potentially leading to a robot apocalypse.
This idea about evil alien-like AGIs, however, derives from a widespread misunderstanding in the AI community that conflates two different notions of generality:
* Turing machine generality, and
* human domain generality
What regular people mean when they say generality is the later. Even the [official definition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence) of AGI hinges off of that human-contingent context:
>
> ...perform any intellectual task that a human being can.
>
>
>
But by that definition, generalizing behavior does not make it more alien. To generalize is to anthropomorphize. As Nietzche said,
>
> "Where you see ideal things, I see— human, alas! All too human things.”
>
>
>
Upvotes: 2 |
2016/09/07 | 2,763 | 12,028 | <issue_start>username_0: Why is search important in AI? What kinds of search algorithms are used in AI? How do they improve the result of an AI?<issue_comment>username_1: Search is important for at least two reasons.
First, searching is one of the early and major consumers of advanced machine learning, as finding the correct result for a search query boils down to predicting the click-through rate for query-result combinations. More relevant results means more clicks, more traffic, and more revenue.
Second, many planning and optimization problems can be recast as search problems. An AI deciding on a plan to route packages through a network is searching the space of possible plans for a good one.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: In regards to the question you mention (in the comments of the OP), these searches are related to optimization. I'm not sure of your background, so let me describe it from scratch, briefly:
Remember the derivative? The base idea is to talk about how the function changes in regards to changes in input. So now, we're out of high school and we're building neural nets. We've done the basic coding, and want to look at how our model is working. Back from our statistics class, we remember we use a certain measure of error (e.g. least squares) to determine the efficacy of the models from that class, so we decide to use that here. We get this error, and it's a bit too big for our liking, so we decide to fiddle with our model and adjust the weights to get that error down. But how?
This is where the 'search' comes into play. It's really a search for the best weights to put on the edges of our net to optimize it. We use the derivative (in some fancy ways, using the 'stochasitc' (think random sampling) and other ways the question mentions) to search for which way is 'down' in the high dimensional space of our weights. In other words, what we are searching for is minima or maxima to optimize our neural net, and we 'search' for it by doing a derivative which tells us which way to go, moving a bit in that direction, then doing that again and again iteratively to find (hopefully) the best weights.
This video here goes into all the detail you'd want, and I recommend the entire series as a robust but understandable intro to neural nets: [Demystifying Neural Networks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlcnxUlrtek)
Go and look up 'gradient descent' to get any related material. (Note, the gradient here is equivalent to multidimensional derivative direction to go in, and descent is just searching for the minima)
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: Search has always been a crucial element of AI in multiple ways. First, what many people refer to as "search" is a reflection of how what we call "intelligence" frequently involves searching something: a physical realm, a "state space" of possible solutions, a "knowledge space" where ideas/facts/concepts/etc. are related as a graph structure, etc.
Look up some old papers on computer chess, and you'll see that a lot of that involves searching a "state space". As such, search algorithms that are efficient (in terms of time complexity and/or space complexity) have always been important to making advances there. And while computer chess is just one example, the principle generalizes to many other kinds of problem solving and goal seeking activities.
Here's [a reference](http://www-g.eng.cam.ac.uk/mmg/teaching/artificialintelligence/nonflash/problemframenf.htm) that explains more about some of these ideas.
Note too that "search" is closely related to the idea of "heuristics" in an important way. Many search problems in the real world are far too complex to solve by exhaustive brute-force search, so humans (and AI's) resort to heuristics to narrow the state space being searched. Using heuristics can yield search algorithms that allow for reasonable solutions in a realistic time-frame, where no simple, deterministic algorithm exists to do likewise.
For some more background you might want to read up on [A\* search](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A*_search_algorithm), which is a widely used algorithm with many applications - and not just in AI.
The other major regard in which something you could call "search" applies in AI is through the use of algorithms which are also often referred to as "optimisation" techniques. This would be things like Hill Climbing, Gradient Descent, Simulated Annealing and perhaps even Genetic Algorithms. These are used to maximize or minimize the values of some function and one of the canonical uses in AI is for training neural networks using back-propagation, where you're trying to minimize the delta between the "correct" answer (from the training data) and the generated answer, so you can learn the correct weights within the network.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: *State space search* is a general and ubiquitous AI activity that includes numerical optimization (e.g. via gradient descent in a real-valued search space) as a special case.
State space search is an abstraction which can be customized for a particular problem via three ingredients:
1. Some representation for candidate solutions to the problem (e.g. permutation of cities to represent a Travelling Salesman Problem (TSP) tour, vector of real values for numeric problems).
2. A solution quality measure: i.e. some means of deciding which of two solutions is the better. This is typically achieved (for single-objective problems) by having via some integer or real-valued function of a solution (e.g. total distance travelled for a TSP tour).
3. Some means of moving around in the space of possible solutions, in a heuristically-informed manner. Derivatives can be used if available, or else (e.g. for black-box problems or discrete solution representations) the kind of mutation or crossover methods favoured by genetic algorithms/evolutionary computation can be employed.
The first couple of chapters of the freely available ["Essentials of Metaheuristics"](https://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/book/metaheuristics/) give an excellent overview and Michalewicz and Fogel's ["How to Solve It - Modern Heuristics"](http://www.springer.com/us/book/9783540224945) explains in more detail how numerical optimization can be considered in terms of state-space.
How shall the "search through possible plans" occur? The idea is to choose all 3 of the above for the planning problem and then apply some metaheuristic (such as Simulated Annealing, Tabu Search, Genetic Algorithms etc). Clearly, for nontrivial problems, only a small fraction of the space of "all possible plans" is actually explored.
CAVEAT: Actually *planning* (in contrast to the vast majority of other problems amenable to state-space search such as scheduling, packing, routing etc) is a bit of a special case, in that it is sometime possible to solve planning problems simply by using A\* search, rather than searching with a stochastic metaheuristic.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_5: The aim of an AI is to fulfill one or the other task, say solve the task adequately. But there are results that are no solutions at all and there are results which are satisfying the task and thus are accepted as solutions. Since there are generally more results that are no solutions, the set of all possible solutions is just a subset of all results. But this means that the task involves the search for a suitable set of solutions.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_6: Every problem can be reduced to search. Every problem has an input within some range (the domain) and an output in some other range (codomain). That is, every problem can be formulated as a kind of map from one space to another, where the source is the givens of the problem, and the destination is the solution to the problem.
"Brute force" is the algorithm which solves every problem by inspecting every point in the codomain and asking: "Is this the solution?" Every other algorithm is an attempt to improve on brute force by not searching the entire codomain of possible solutions.
Typical software engineering problems can be solved by algorithms which arrive at the correct solution very quickly (sorting, arithmetic, partition, etc.). AI problems are generally those for which a strong polynomial algorithm is not known, and thus, we must settle for approximations. Basically every common problem that the human brain must solve falls into this category.
Consider the problem of moving a multi-jointed robotic arm to pick up an object. Reverse kinematics does not have unique solutions: there is more than one way to move your hand from a start position to a target position. This is due to the excessive degrees of freedom in your joints. If you want to minimize energy usage, then there is a unique solution (due to the asymmetry of joints and muscles).
But what if there is an obstacle in the pathway of the minimum-energy solution? There are many pathways which avoid the obstacle, but again, many of them will have a similar cost. Even if there is a unique minimum-energy solution, it might not be the most practical to compute. The brain is the most metabolically expensive organ in the body, so it is not always best to find an optimal solution. Thus, heuristics come into play.
But in all cases, the problem is not: "move your hand" or "move the robot arm." The problem is: "search the space of joint rotation sequences which best achieves the goal." And even though there is a closed-form solution for the simple minimum-energy case with no obstacles, it is too expensive to compute precisely when a set of cheap heuristics will get you very close with a small fraction of the computational effort.
If computation were free, then AI would be mere mathematics, and we would always compute the best answer to every question using logic, calculus, physics, at worst, numerical methods when we don't have closed-form solutions. In reality, time is money, and the time and effort to get an answer is as much a part of the cost as the quality of the solution. So it is an engineering tradeoff to decide how much effort should be expended in what way to obtain the best answer given the value of the response.
Or, in other words, AI problems are all about searching the space of solutions as quickly as possible to get an answer that is "good enough".
I might seem curious that such far-flung problems as natural language recognition and theorem proving would be search problems. But language parsers strive to determine the meaning of statements via part-of-speech tagging. A given phrase can be parsed in many different ways, yielding many different interpretations, and the space of parse trees is yet another search problem in deciding which parse tree is the most likely intended meaning by the speaker.
A theorem proof is graph starting with axioms, proceeding through lemmas, applying the rules of procedure until the theorem is derived or refuted (by proving its negation). There are many ways to represent this sequence, but at the end of the day, we are talking about a process of exploring the intermediate proof space and finding the derivation which reaches your goal. Everything is search, in the end.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_7: Consciousness is an attention selection mechanism that **searches** over salient inputs. The [robotic saccades](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQclvZpPWHQ) of your eyeballs show you first hand the algorithmic nature of your brain's conscious attention mechanism, while it searches among salient inputs.
A smart search algorithm can help with dimensionality reduction.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_8: Typical learning algorithms can be stated as a search problem, where we want to find the best possible solution, that successfully solves a particular task, among all the available candidate solutions in the solution space.
It is often the case where we can't find the best one or it is too hard to find it and thus we compromise with a sub-optimal solution.
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2016/09/07 | 2,118 | 8,246 | <issue_start>username_0: Considering the answers of [this](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/1314/how-powerful-a-computer-is-required-to-simulate-the-human-brain) question, emulating a human brain with the current computing capacity is currently impossible, but we aren't very far from it.
Note, 1 or 2 decades ago, similar calculations had similar results.
The clock frequency of the modern CPUs seem to be stopped, currently the miniaturization (-> mobile use), the RAM/cache improvement and the multi-core paralellization are the main lines of the development.
Ok, but what is the case with the analogous chips? In case of a NN, it is not a very big problem, if it is not very accurate, the NN would adapt to the minor manufacturing differences in its learning phase. And a single analogous wire can substitute a complex integer multiplication-division unit, while the whole surface of the analogous printed circuit could work parallel.
According to [this](https://engineering.stackexchange.com/questions/3993/do-analog-fpgas-exist) post, "software rewirable" analogous circuits, essentially "analogous FPGAs" already exist. Although the capacity of the FPGAs is highly below the capacity of the [ASIC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application-specific_integrated_circuit)s with the same size, maybe analogous chips for neural networks could also exist.
I suspect, if it is correct, maybe even the real human brain model wouldn't be too far. It would still require a massively parallel system of costly analogous NN chips, but it seems to me not impossible.
Could this idea work? Maybe there is even active research/development into this direction?<issue_comment>username_1: I'm not sure about "emulating the brain" per-se, but in a more general sense there has been some thought given to using analog computing for AI/ML. It seems clear that analog computers do have certain advantages over digital computers. For one, they can (depending on the application) be faster, albeit at the cost of some loss of precision. But that's OK, because I don't think anybody believes the human brain is calculating floating point math using digital computing techniques either. The human brain appears, at least superficially, to be largely probabilistic and able to tolerate some "slop" numerically.
The downside to analog computers, as I understand it, is that they're not as flexible... you basically hardwire a circuit to do one specific "thing" and that's really all it can do. To change the "programming" you have to literally solder in a new component! Or, I suppose, adjust a potentiometer or adjustable capacitor, etc. Anyway, the point is that digital computers are supremely flexible, which is one big reason they came to dominate the world. But I can see where there could be room for going analog for discrete functions that make up some or all of an intelligent system.
As for research in the area, you might look into whatever DARPA was / is doing. There was [an article in Wired](http://www.wired.com/2012/08/upside/) a while back, talking about some DARPA initiatives related to analog computing.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I am currently reading *Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies* by <NAME>. When he discusses whole brain emulation, although computing power (storage, bandwidth, CPU, body simulation, & environment simulation) is one of the three general key things we are lacking toward its success, he also seems to agree that computing power is the most feasible and attainable of the three general issues we have for attaining it as of now. However he also goes on to to say
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> Just how much technology is required for whole brain emulation
> depends on the level of abstraction at which the brain is simulated.[ref](https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1mMJBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT41&lpg=PT41&dq=%22Just%20how%20much%20technology%20is%20required%20for%20whole%20brain%20emulation%20depends%20on%20the%20level%20of%22&source=bl&ots=Pmw4PUDele&sig=PfmDRgcJuKBf3TwyCoVtCmp9XmE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4gZy6tbnPAhVRF8AKHUoQDD8Q6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=%22Just%20how%20much%20technology%20is%20required%20for%20whole%20brain%20emulation%20depends%20on%20the%20level%20of%22&f=false)
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Which is an interesting thought, but a whole different discussion.
Anyways, so I think you are correct in thinking that we aren't far from having the computing power and maybe you are on to something, but rather are biggest hurdles are the other two key prerequisites that we need to attain before we can even begin trying, which are scanning, and translation.
Of the three, it would seem translation is the one we need to advance in the most, as of now. A modest prediction of attaining whole brain emulation is at least 15 years or mid century. Theres much more information in this book of all of the different paths that can be taken to achieve super intelligence, and it is well researched, I highly recommend it if you haven't read it already.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: If the universe is discrete, then analog phenomena (fluidity, curvature) are built on primitively discrete phenomena (bits and pieces).
If the universe is continuous, then discrete phenomena (bits and pieces) are built on primitively continuous phenomena (fluidity, curvature).
If the universe is discrete, the speed of seemingly analog phenomena will be bounded by the number of discrete phenomena that can occur in time and space.
If the universe is continuous, then time, space or matter *may* be infinitely divisible, which *may* allow for the execution of some phenomena faster than those phenomena *appear* to execute in natural environments (like protein folding or electric circuits) - so called "super Turing" computation.
The continuous universe idea begs the question, though: From whence came all this discreteness? A discrete universe can allow for apparent continuous behavior via approximation and randomness (or pseudorandomness), whereas a universe that is infinitely divisible affords no obvious definition of where things should start and end. This is one of the reasons many thinkers eschew considering infinities - they may be illusory.
So, can analog "circuits" execute faster than digital? As of right now, we know of some *seemingly* analog phenomena that *appear* execute faster than some digital phenomena (like electron spin vs a silicon logic gate). Whether analog phenomena are *intrinsically* more efficient than digital depends on the actual nature of the universe, which we have not yet determined.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: I see two main issues with this suggestion.
One: digital circuits take up a lot less space, and they're easier to design, so you can put together a bigger system this way. (not to mention connecting separate chips within a system) This is mainly because in digital circuits your tolerances can be a lot loose.
The bigger one is: we still don't know how neurons work. Artificial neural networks somewhat resemble the natural one, but they behave differently. There are various ion channels, there are electric signals, and with these neurons stimulate each other, and if one's threshold is reached, it fires a spike. When it's reached again soon, you can see a burst in the signal. As far as I know, researchers don't yet know what function you need to implement to simulate it. The closest ANN is the spiking neural network, but it's not very useful in practice.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: my hunch (and this is strictly a hunch) is that building a human brain on a chip is actually alot easier than you might think.
my pet theory is that biological neurons are horribly slow, clumsy, and error-prone devices (at least mines are :lol:), but that the human brain overcomes this limitation by increasing the degree of parallelism several orders of magnitude over the current chip technology; and to that end it requires ~1.0e+11 neurons.
but the chip removes these limitations, and when the neurons have instantaneous relays, then you dont need nearly so many of them. if thats correct, then a human brain on a chip could probably run in only a few million neurons as opposed to 1.0e+11 inside the skull.
Upvotes: -1 |
2016/09/08 | 1,899 | 7,364 | <issue_start>username_0: Conceptually speaking, aren't artificial neural networks just highly distributed, lossy compression schemes?
They're certainly efficient at [compressing images](https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/courses/soco/projects/neural-networks/Applications/imagecompression.html).
And aren't brains (at least, the neocortex) just compartmentalized, highly distributed, lossy databases?
If so, what salient features in RNNs and CNNs are necessary in any given lossy compression scheme in order to extract the semantic relations that they do? Is it just a matter of having a large number of dimensions/variables?
Could some kind of lossy [Bloom filter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom_filter) be re-purposed for the kinds of problems ANNs are applied to?<issue_comment>username_1: I'm not sure about "emulating the brain" per-se, but in a more general sense there has been some thought given to using analog computing for AI/ML. It seems clear that analog computers do have certain advantages over digital computers. For one, they can (depending on the application) be faster, albeit at the cost of some loss of precision. But that's OK, because I don't think anybody believes the human brain is calculating floating point math using digital computing techniques either. The human brain appears, at least superficially, to be largely probabilistic and able to tolerate some "slop" numerically.
The downside to analog computers, as I understand it, is that they're not as flexible... you basically hardwire a circuit to do one specific "thing" and that's really all it can do. To change the "programming" you have to literally solder in a new component! Or, I suppose, adjust a potentiometer or adjustable capacitor, etc. Anyway, the point is that digital computers are supremely flexible, which is one big reason they came to dominate the world. But I can see where there could be room for going analog for discrete functions that make up some or all of an intelligent system.
As for research in the area, you might look into whatever DARPA was / is doing. There was [an article in Wired](http://www.wired.com/2012/08/upside/) a while back, talking about some DARPA initiatives related to analog computing.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I am currently reading *Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies* by <NAME>. When he discusses whole brain emulation, although computing power (storage, bandwidth, CPU, body simulation, & environment simulation) is one of the three general key things we are lacking toward its success, he also seems to agree that computing power is the most feasible and attainable of the three general issues we have for attaining it as of now. However he also goes on to to say
>
> Just how much technology is required for whole brain emulation
> depends on the level of abstraction at which the brain is simulated.[ref](https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=1mMJBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT41&lpg=PT41&dq=%22Just%20how%20much%20technology%20is%20required%20for%20whole%20brain%20emulation%20depends%20on%20the%20level%20of%22&source=bl&ots=Pmw4PUDele&sig=PfmDRgcJuKBf3TwyCoVtCmp9XmE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj4gZy6tbnPAhVRF8AKHUoQDD8Q6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=%22Just%20how%20much%20technology%20is%20required%20for%20whole%20brain%20emulation%20depends%20on%20the%20level%20of%22&f=false)
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Which is an interesting thought, but a whole different discussion.
Anyways, so I think you are correct in thinking that we aren't far from having the computing power and maybe you are on to something, but rather are biggest hurdles are the other two key prerequisites that we need to attain before we can even begin trying, which are scanning, and translation.
Of the three, it would seem translation is the one we need to advance in the most, as of now. A modest prediction of attaining whole brain emulation is at least 15 years or mid century. Theres much more information in this book of all of the different paths that can be taken to achieve super intelligence, and it is well researched, I highly recommend it if you haven't read it already.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: If the universe is discrete, then analog phenomena (fluidity, curvature) are built on primitively discrete phenomena (bits and pieces).
If the universe is continuous, then discrete phenomena (bits and pieces) are built on primitively continuous phenomena (fluidity, curvature).
If the universe is discrete, the speed of seemingly analog phenomena will be bounded by the number of discrete phenomena that can occur in time and space.
If the universe is continuous, then time, space or matter *may* be infinitely divisible, which *may* allow for the execution of some phenomena faster than those phenomena *appear* to execute in natural environments (like protein folding or electric circuits) - so called "super Turing" computation.
The continuous universe idea begs the question, though: From whence came all this discreteness? A discrete universe can allow for apparent continuous behavior via approximation and randomness (or pseudorandomness), whereas a universe that is infinitely divisible affords no obvious definition of where things should start and end. This is one of the reasons many thinkers eschew considering infinities - they may be illusory.
So, can analog "circuits" execute faster than digital? As of right now, we know of some *seemingly* analog phenomena that *appear* execute faster than some digital phenomena (like electron spin vs a silicon logic gate). Whether analog phenomena are *intrinsically* more efficient than digital depends on the actual nature of the universe, which we have not yet determined.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: I see two main issues with this suggestion.
One: digital circuits take up a lot less space, and they're easier to design, so you can put together a bigger system this way. (not to mention connecting separate chips within a system) This is mainly because in digital circuits your tolerances can be a lot loose.
The bigger one is: we still don't know how neurons work. Artificial neural networks somewhat resemble the natural one, but they behave differently. There are various ion channels, there are electric signals, and with these neurons stimulate each other, and if one's threshold is reached, it fires a spike. When it's reached again soon, you can see a burst in the signal. As far as I know, researchers don't yet know what function you need to implement to simulate it. The closest ANN is the spiking neural network, but it's not very useful in practice.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: my hunch (and this is strictly a hunch) is that building a human brain on a chip is actually alot easier than you might think.
my pet theory is that biological neurons are horribly slow, clumsy, and error-prone devices (at least mines are :lol:), but that the human brain overcomes this limitation by increasing the degree of parallelism several orders of magnitude over the current chip technology; and to that end it requires ~1.0e+11 neurons.
but the chip removes these limitations, and when the neurons have instantaneous relays, then you dont need nearly so many of them. if thats correct, then a human brain on a chip could probably run in only a few million neurons as opposed to 1.0e+11 inside the skull.
Upvotes: -1 |
2016/09/08 | 4,517 | 18,465 | <issue_start>username_0: Consciousness [is challenging to define](http://www.iep.utm.edu/consciou/), but for this question let's define it as "actually experiencing sensory input as opposed to just putting a bunch of data through an inanimate machine." Humans, of course, have minds; for normal computers, all the things they "see" are just more data. One could alternatively say that humans are [sentient](https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/a/4687), while traditional computers are not.
Setting aside the question of whether it's possible to build a sentient machine, does it actually make a difference if an AI is sentient or not? In other words, are there are tasks that are made impossible - not just more difficult - by a lack of sentience?<issue_comment>username_1: No-one knows.
Why: because it's not possible to formally determine even whether your fellow human beings are actually conscious (they may instead be what is philosophically termed a ['Zombie'](http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/)). No test known to modern physics suffices to decide. Hence it's possible that you are the only sentient being, and everyone else is a robot.
Consequently, we cannot determine which tasks require sentience.
Note that the ontological status of Zombies is controversial: some philosophers of AI (e.g. <NAME>) claim that Zombies are [logically impossible](https://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/dennett/papers/unzombie.htm) while others such as [<NAME>](http://consc.net/zombies.html) would claim that a Zombie would be compelled to assert that they experience *qualia* (i.e. are sentient) even though they do not. [Here](http://homepages.uc.edu/~polgertw/Polger-ZombiesJCS.pdf) is a very readable paper by Flanagan and Polger that also explains why a stronger neurological version of the Turing test is insufficient to detect a Zombie.
EDIT: In response to the comment about whether an objective test for distinguishing sentience from non-sentience exists:
No-one knows. What we *do* believe is that this would require something in addition to what modern physics can currently tell us. <NAME> has speculated that qualia should be introduced as a new form of physical unit, orthogonal to the others in the same way that electrical charge is orthogonal to distance.
In the absence of an objective test, we have to rely on Turing test variants, which no more guarantee consciousness in the subject than they do intelligence.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: In a very niche sense, I'd say yes.
The only tasks that sentience would make possible was the actual feeling and thinking in and of itself. At this point, sentience doesn't play a part in any of the tasks we ask AI's to complete; we are rapidly approaching the point of being able to teach a 'dead' machine to do most anything a sentient AI can, in a practical sense.
Sentience *colloquially* often translates to 'the ability to reason while understanding that oneself and each other entity is a distinct acting agent'or something along those lines. It literally means something more along the lines of self-awareness and the definition of consciousness you have above. The point I'm making is that we are readily approaching the point where 'dead' AI's can very nicely mimic the first way of thinking, just by really nicely learning and interpreting data.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/lbSUcm.jpg)
Does the robot see an amalgamation of bone, or a being that once was?
Thus, a truly sentient machine would be superior in capability (compared to a really, really advanced 'dead' AI) only in the respect of being able to 'truly' experience the information.
This runs very well in parallel with the so-called ["Knowledge Argument"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_argument) which in essence debates this very issue. The version of it that I heard which sticks with me is that there is a very smart girl in a room with access to all sorts of information. She likes the color blue. Or so she thinks; she's never actually seen it. She has all the information in the world available about colors and how they work, etc. but does she really know what blue is until she sees it?
Another great, historic venture into this field is the famous painting:
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/vhd7K.jpg)
The caption translates: "This is not a pipe". And the idea is that this, honestly, isn't a pipe. Right now it's a bunch of pixels on your screen in a certain configuration - we can all 'see' a pipe, but what does that really mean?
At the end of the day, I think super-intelligent 'dead' AI can practically do anything a 'live' one can, with the latter being superior in and of the 'liveness' itself.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_3: Two kinds of tasks require consciousness:
1. consciousness
2. Any task that requires extreme dynamicity, where solving problems requires analogizing between various 3D states of affairs and prior knowledge of how to solve the problem is minimal
However, once knowledge of how to solve a given problem is gained, further optimization will eliminate that need for consciousness.
If you give enough specificity to a problem, you remove the need for a general solver. And then the only remaining *need* for a consciousness is for the sake of itself.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_4: A being without sentience cannot suffer. If, for example, we wanted to take joy in the suffering of another, only an AI that was sentient would suffice.
Suppose we had some sadists who could not be satisfied or productive unless they got to produce lots of suffering. And say we only cared about minimizing human and animal suffering. What we would need for this job is something non-human and non-animal that could suffer. A conscious AI would do, a non-conscious one would not.
The claim was made in the comments that consciousness cannot be proven, other than perhaps by introspection. But clearly this is not a problem since sadists take joy in torturing others, and those others cannot prove they're conscious either.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_5: **No.**
The *experience* of seeing is by definition non-causal. Anything non-causal cannot be a requirement of a physical process; a qualia cannot afford a robot the ability to do something it otherwise could not.
**Maybe.**
Although a qualia is not required for a given AI task, that is not to say that any sufficiently advanced AI does not entail qualia. It could be that so-called AI-complete tasks require a robot that, although not making use of qualia, produces it anyway.
**Yes.**
Qualia may refer to some wishy-washy non-physical property, but it's special in that we know it exists physically, too. The fact I am able to discuss my qualia knowingly (or, if you don't believe me, the fact *you* are able to) implies that my (or your) qualia does have a physical effect.
It stands to reason that if we accept others' qualia on the basis of our own, it must be because of the *physical* basis of our own1. Thus one could argue that2 any robot that has an equivalent physical capacity *must* entail qualia.
1 since the subjective is physically non-causal, so cannot *cause* us to accept anything.
2 as long as you don't make the particularly odd assumption that qualia is somehow tied to its direct physical manifestation, which at best is tenuous since had we evolved the wrong one you would still claim it to be the right one with equal certainty.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_6: Let's use a simple test based on common sense: how often do you see a human being solve problems requiring the use of reason when they're unconscious? Yes, you can find instances of geniuses like Ramanujan solving complex problem during or after a dream state, but those involve partial consciousness. You don't see guys like Einstein coming up with the theory of relativity while in a coma; the Founding Fathers didn't write the Declaration of Independence while sleep-walking; in fact, you can't even find instances of housewives putting together their shopping list for the week during deep delta-wave sleep. This is predicated on a hard definition of intelligence, requiring the use of reason; no one says, "That fly is intelligent" or "that squirrel is intelligent" precisely because neither is capable of using reason. This is a very high bar for A.I., but it is the common sense definition used by ordinary people as a matter of practicality, in everyday speech. Likewise, in practice, everyone assumes consciousness is necessary to the exercise of that kind of intelligence.
Conversely, we can come up with another common-sense based criterion for judging objections to this argument, particularly the solipsist one, based on 3 elements: 1) practicality; 2) the effect the objections have on those who hold them sincerely; and 3) the effect that actions based on those beliefs have on others. **It's going to take me several paragraphs to make this case, but the length is necessary if I want to make the case in a complete, thorough fashion**. It is true that we cannot prove that another human being possesses consciousness, if our standard is absolute proof. We cannot, in fact, provide absolute proof for anything; there's always room for some objection, no matter how ridiculous or trifling. As some philosophers have pointed out, perhaps all of reality as we know it is just a dream, or the product of some long, involved conspiracy like the plot of the Jim Carrey movie The Truman Show. The key to meeting such objections is that they require an infinite regress of increasingly untenable objections, whose likelihood plunges with each additional step required to justify such unreasonable doubts; I've always wondered if we could come up with a "Ridiculousness Metric" for Machine Learning based on the cardinality of such objections (or the pickiness of fuzzy sets). If we were to allow critics to stick their foot in the door with all manner of unreasonable objections, it would be impossible to close any debate. The human race would be paralyzed in inaction because nothing would be decidable; but as the rock band Rush once pointed out, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." At some point we must apply a test to decide such things, even in the absence of absolute proof; refusal to apply a test also constitutes a choice. Settling an argument of this kind is like a game of the Chinese game Go - once the other player's surrounded and has no more moves left to make, the game is over; if a person's evidence has debunked and they have no further justifications left, then we can conclude that they're acting unreasonably. There are people running around claiming the Holocaust never happened, or the Flat Earth Society, etc., but their existence shouldn't and doesn't stop us from taking action contrary to their ideas. We can debunk the objections of cranks like the Flat Earth Society beyond a reasonable doubt because in the end, they simply can't answer all of our rebuttals. I’m glad that qualia and Philosophical Zombies were brought up because they make for interesting conversation and food for thought, but solipsism is acted upon as rarely as the ideas of the Flat Earth Society precisely because the incomplete evidence we **do** have runs against it.
As <NAME> (a.k.a. "The Apostle of Common Sense") points out in his classic [Orthodoxy](http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/130), radical doubt of the kind many classical philosophers preached is not a path to wisdom but to madness; once we go beyond a reasonable doubt, we end up acting unreasonably. He says that in the absence of absolute proof we can fall back on another secondary form of evidence: whether a person's philosophy leads a man to Hanwell, the infamous British mental institution. Chesterton makes a good case that when people actually act on ideas like solipsism (rather than merely debating them in a pedantic manner in an ivy-covered classroom) they go mad The Philosophical Zombie argument is close to solipsism, which is actually one of the diagnostic criteria for certain forms of schizophrenia. The dehumanization that occurs when radical doubt is applied to qualia is also intimately tied in with sociopathic behavior, Although GKC does not cite his scary example directly, <NAME> was himself living proof. He was a brilliant mathematician who is still cheered for doubting all except his own existence, with the famous maxim "I think, therefore I am." But Descartes also used to carry a mannequin of his dead sister with him to European cafes, where he could be seen chatting with it. The gist of all this is that we can judge the worth of an idea by how it affects the well-being of the believer, or by how they in turn affect others through ethical choices based on those beliefs. When people actually act on radical doubt of the kind expressed in solipsism and denial of common qualia, it often has a bad effect on them and others they come in contact with.
In a roundabout way, the A.I. community also faces a quite serious risk - perhaps a permanent temptation - towards making the opposite mistake, of ascribing common qualia, consciousness and the like to its Machine Learning products without adequate proof. I recently heard a case made on shockingly bad logical grounds by well-respected academics to the effect that plants possess "intelligence," based on really weak definitions and clear confusion with self-organization. We cannot provide absolute proof that a rock doesn't have intelligence, which amounts to the old problem of disproving a negative. Thankfully, few men actually act on such beliefs at present, because when they do, they end up losing their minds. If we take such arguments seriously, we might see laws passed to protect the kind of Pet Rocks that were popular in the '70s (I'm still upset that mine was stolen LOL). It would be a lot easier, however, to make the same mistake of ascribing consciousness, intelligence and other such qualities to a state-of-the-art machine, because of wishful thinking, hubris, the lofty credentials of the inventors, the influence of science fiction and the modern love affair with technology. In the future, I have little doubt that we'll have Cargo Cult of A.I. - perhaps legally protected like some kind of endangered species, with civil rights, but having no more consciousness, soul or actual intelligence than a rock. Don't quote me on this, but I believe <NAME> once wrote a story to this effect.
The best way to avoid this fate is to stick to the common sense interpretations and definitions of these things, which we keep backing away from in large part because they set a very high bar for A.I. that we may never be able to surpass in our lifetimes, if ever. Perhaps A.I. isn't even logically possible, at any level of technology; I recall a few proofs that can be interpreted to that effect. Those high but reasonable standards may be increasingly difficult to stick to if Chesterton and colleagues like <NAME> and <NAME> were correct in their assessment that the use of reason has actually been breaking down in Western civilization, at least as far back as the Enlightenment; Lunn's 1931 book The Flight from Reason is a classic in this regard and has yet to be rebutted. This historical trend is a broad topic in and of itself - but suffice it to say that the denial of reason and obsession with technology are both directly relevant in obvious ways to the field of A.I. If the Flight from Reason is still under way, then we will be increasingly tempted to resort to feckless, facile objections in order to demote the use of reason and indispensable qualities like consciousness in our definitions of A.I., but come up with increasingly weak criteria for proving it; simultaneously, our technology will continue to improve, thereby boosting the "Artificial" side of Artificial Intelligence.
Don't get me wrong: if I didn't think we can do some really exciting things with A.I., I wouldn't be here. But most of them can be achieved without ever replicating actual human intelligence, by solving whole classes of tangential problems that are difficult for humans to think about, but which do not require consciousness or the use of reason that marks human intelligence. The image recognition capabilities of convolutional neural nets are one example, for instance; if we want human intelligence, we can always manufacture it through the easiest, most economical and time-tested way, by having babies. Perhaps these tangential forms of A.I. should be enough for us for now. We cannot inject the use of reason into our machines if we do not possess enough of it ourselves to decide whether reason is necessary for A.I., or even to discern what it consists of. We can't engineer or deprecate consciousness for A.I. till we're conscious of its significance. I'd wager, however, that everyone reading this thread and weighing intelligent responses is doing so in a conscious state. That in and of itself ought to answer our question satisfactorily for now.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_7: As far as the definition you've provided:
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Both computers and humans experience sensory input. You could hook a computer up to a human eyeball and have it run the same filtering routines that the human brain does (the removal of bluriness while you move your eye around, and from objects not in focus, etc).
I would put forth that a more accurate definition of consciousness is the ability and the tendancy to self-reflect. Both computers and human brains have autonomous activities. Not only mechanical but also in our reactions. ***The distinction between the unconscious computer and the self-aware human mind is that we also have the ability to 'look' at those patterns in ourself and consider them.***
And so, no, consciousness is not necessary for any AI task. Image recognition is an AI task that does not require consciousness, either in humans or otherwise. Your brain sorts the 'wash' of colors from your eyes into discrete objects in a largely autonomous fashion.
tl;dr consciousness is self-reference.
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2016/09/08 | 4,438 | 18,141 | <issue_start>username_0: A lot of textbooks and introductory lectures typically split AI into connectionism and GOFAI (Good Old Fashioned AI). From a purely technical perspective, it seems that [connectionism](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/connectionism/) has grown into machine learning and data science, while nobody talks about GOFAI, Symbolic AI, or Expert Systems at all.
Is anyone of note still working on GOFAI?<issue_comment>username_1: No-one knows.
Why: because it's not possible to formally determine even whether your fellow human beings are actually conscious (they may instead be what is philosophically termed a ['Zombie'](http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/zombies/)). No test known to modern physics suffices to decide. Hence it's possible that you are the only sentient being, and everyone else is a robot.
Consequently, we cannot determine which tasks require sentience.
Note that the ontological status of Zombies is controversial: some philosophers of AI (e.g. <NAME>) claim that Zombies are [logically impossible](https://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/dennett/papers/unzombie.htm) while others such as [<NAME>](http://consc.net/zombies.html) would claim that a Zombie would be compelled to assert that they experience *qualia* (i.e. are sentient) even though they do not. [Here](http://homepages.uc.edu/~polgertw/Polger-ZombiesJCS.pdf) is a very readable paper by Flanagan and Polger that also explains why a stronger neurological version of the Turing test is insufficient to detect a Zombie.
EDIT: In response to the comment about whether an objective test for distinguishing sentience from non-sentience exists:
No-one knows. What we *do* believe is that this would require something in addition to what modern physics can currently tell us. <NAME>almers has speculated that qualia should be introduced as a new form of physical unit, orthogonal to the others in the same way that electrical charge is orthogonal to distance.
In the absence of an objective test, we have to rely on Turing test variants, which no more guarantee consciousness in the subject than they do intelligence.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: In a very niche sense, I'd say yes.
The only tasks that sentience would make possible was the actual feeling and thinking in and of itself. At this point, sentience doesn't play a part in any of the tasks we ask AI's to complete; we are rapidly approaching the point of being able to teach a 'dead' machine to do most anything a sentient AI can, in a practical sense.
Sentience *colloquially* often translates to 'the ability to reason while understanding that oneself and each other entity is a distinct acting agent'or something along those lines. It literally means something more along the lines of self-awareness and the definition of consciousness you have above. The point I'm making is that we are readily approaching the point where 'dead' AI's can very nicely mimic the first way of thinking, just by really nicely learning and interpreting data.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/lbSUcm.jpg)
Does the robot see an amalgamation of bone, or a being that once was?
Thus, a truly sentient machine would be superior in capability (compared to a really, really advanced 'dead' AI) only in the respect of being able to 'truly' experience the information.
This runs very well in parallel with the so-called ["Knowledge Argument"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_argument) which in essence debates this very issue. The version of it that I heard which sticks with me is that there is a very smart girl in a room with access to all sorts of information. She likes the color blue. Or so she thinks; she's never actually seen it. She has all the information in the world available about colors and how they work, etc. but does she really know what blue is until she sees it?
Another great, historic venture into this field is the famous painting:
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/vhd7K.jpg)
The caption translates: "This is not a pipe". And the idea is that this, honestly, isn't a pipe. Right now it's a bunch of pixels on your screen in a certain configuration - we can all 'see' a pipe, but what does that really mean?
At the end of the day, I think super-intelligent 'dead' AI can practically do anything a 'live' one can, with the latter being superior in and of the 'liveness' itself.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_3: Two kinds of tasks require consciousness:
1. consciousness
2. Any task that requires extreme dynamicity, where solving problems requires analogizing between various 3D states of affairs and prior knowledge of how to solve the problem is minimal
However, once knowledge of how to solve a given problem is gained, further optimization will eliminate that need for consciousness.
If you give enough specificity to a problem, you remove the need for a general solver. And then the only remaining *need* for a consciousness is for the sake of itself.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_4: A being without sentience cannot suffer. If, for example, we wanted to take joy in the suffering of another, only an AI that was sentient would suffice.
Suppose we had some sadists who could not be satisfied or productive unless they got to produce lots of suffering. And say we only cared about minimizing human and animal suffering. What we would need for this job is something non-human and non-animal that could suffer. A conscious AI would do, a non-conscious one would not.
The claim was made in the comments that consciousness cannot be proven, other than perhaps by introspection. But clearly this is not a problem since sadists take joy in torturing others, and those others cannot prove they're conscious either.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_5: **No.**
The *experience* of seeing is by definition non-causal. Anything non-causal cannot be a requirement of a physical process; a qualia cannot afford a robot the ability to do something it otherwise could not.
**Maybe.**
Although a qualia is not required for a given AI task, that is not to say that any sufficiently advanced AI does not entail qualia. It could be that so-called AI-complete tasks require a robot that, although not making use of qualia, produces it anyway.
**Yes.**
Qualia may refer to some wishy-washy non-physical property, but it's special in that we know it exists physically, too. The fact I am able to discuss my qualia knowingly (or, if you don't believe me, the fact *you* are able to) implies that my (or your) qualia does have a physical effect.
It stands to reason that if we accept others' qualia on the basis of our own, it must be because of the *physical* basis of our own1. Thus one could argue that2 any robot that has an equivalent physical capacity *must* entail qualia.
1 since the subjective is physically non-causal, so cannot *cause* us to accept anything.
2 as long as you don't make the particularly odd assumption that qualia is somehow tied to its direct physical manifestation, which at best is tenuous since had we evolved the wrong one you would still claim it to be the right one with equal certainty.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_6: Let's use a simple test based on common sense: how often do you see a human being solve problems requiring the use of reason when they're unconscious? Yes, you can find instances of geniuses like Ramanujan solving complex problem during or after a dream state, but those involve partial consciousness. You don't see guys like Einstein coming up with the theory of relativity while in a coma; the Founding Fathers didn't write the Declaration of Independence while sleep-walking; in fact, you can't even find instances of housewives putting together their shopping list for the week during deep delta-wave sleep. This is predicated on a hard definition of intelligence, requiring the use of reason; no one says, "That fly is intelligent" or "that squirrel is intelligent" precisely because neither is capable of using reason. This is a very high bar for A.I., but it is the common sense definition used by ordinary people as a matter of practicality, in everyday speech. Likewise, in practice, everyone assumes consciousness is necessary to the exercise of that kind of intelligence.
Conversely, we can come up with another common-sense based criterion for judging objections to this argument, particularly the solipsist one, based on 3 elements: 1) practicality; 2) the effect the objections have on those who hold them sincerely; and 3) the effect that actions based on those beliefs have on others. **It's going to take me several paragraphs to make this case, but the length is necessary if I want to make the case in a complete, thorough fashion**. It is true that we cannot prove that another human being possesses consciousness, if our standard is absolute proof. We cannot, in fact, provide absolute proof for anything; there's always room for some objection, no matter how ridiculous or trifling. As some philosophers have pointed out, perhaps all of reality as we know it is just a dream, or the product of some long, involved conspiracy like the plot of the Jim Carrey movie The Truman Show. The key to meeting such objections is that they require an infinite regress of increasingly untenable objections, whose likelihood plunges with each additional step required to justify such unreasonable doubts; I've always wondered if we could come up with a "Ridiculousness Metric" for Machine Learning based on the cardinality of such objections (or the pickiness of fuzzy sets). If we were to allow critics to stick their foot in the door with all manner of unreasonable objections, it would be impossible to close any debate. The human race would be paralyzed in inaction because nothing would be decidable; but as the rock band Rush once pointed out, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." At some point we must apply a test to decide such things, even in the absence of absolute proof; refusal to apply a test also constitutes a choice. Settling an argument of this kind is like a game of the Chinese game Go - once the other player's surrounded and has no more moves left to make, the game is over; if a person's evidence has debunked and they have no further justifications left, then we can conclude that they're acting unreasonably. There are people running around claiming the Holocaust never happened, or the Flat Earth Society, etc., but their existence shouldn't and doesn't stop us from taking action contrary to their ideas. We can debunk the objections of cranks like the Flat Earth Society beyond a reasonable doubt because in the end, they simply can't answer all of our rebuttals. I’m glad that qualia and Philosophical Zombies were brought up because they make for interesting conversation and food for thought, but solipsism is acted upon as rarely as the ideas of the Flat Earth Society precisely because the incomplete evidence we **do** have runs against it.
As <NAME> (a.k.a. "The Apostle of Common Sense") points out in his classic [Orthodoxy](http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/130), radical doubt of the kind many classical philosophers preached is not a path to wisdom but to madness; once we go beyond a reasonable doubt, we end up acting unreasonably. He says that in the absence of absolute proof we can fall back on another secondary form of evidence: whether a person's philosophy leads a man to Hanwell, the infamous British mental institution. Chesterton makes a good case that when people actually act on ideas like solipsism (rather than merely debating them in a pedantic manner in an ivy-covered classroom) they go mad The Philosophical Zombie argument is close to solipsism, which is actually one of the diagnostic criteria for certain forms of schizophrenia. The dehumanization that occurs when radical doubt is applied to qualia is also intimately tied in with sociopathic behavior, Although GKC does not cite his scary example directly, <NAME> was himself living proof. He was a brilliant mathematician who is still cheered for doubting all except his own existence, with the famous maxim "I think, therefore I am." But Descartes also used to carry a mannequin of his dead sister with him to European cafes, where he could be seen chatting with it. The gist of all this is that we can judge the worth of an idea by how it affects the well-being of the believer, or by how they in turn affect others through ethical choices based on those beliefs. When people actually act on radical doubt of the kind expressed in solipsism and denial of common qualia, it often has a bad effect on them and others they come in contact with.
In a roundabout way, the A.I. community also faces a quite serious risk - perhaps a permanent temptation - towards making the opposite mistake, of ascribing common qualia, consciousness and the like to its Machine Learning products without adequate proof. I recently heard a case made on shockingly bad logical grounds by well-respected academics to the effect that plants possess "intelligence," based on really weak definitions and clear confusion with self-organization. We cannot provide absolute proof that a rock doesn't have intelligence, which amounts to the old problem of disproving a negative. Thankfully, few men actually act on such beliefs at present, because when they do, they end up losing their minds. If we take such arguments seriously, we might see laws passed to protect the kind of Pet Rocks that were popular in the '70s (I'm still upset that mine was stolen LOL). It would be a lot easier, however, to make the same mistake of ascribing consciousness, intelligence and other such qualities to a state-of-the-art machine, because of wishful thinking, hubris, the lofty credentials of the inventors, the influence of science fiction and the modern love affair with technology. In the future, I have little doubt that we'll have Cargo Cult of A.I. - perhaps legally protected like some kind of endangered species, with civil rights, but having no more consciousness, soul or actual intelligence than a rock. Don't quote me on this, but I believe <NAME> once wrote a story to this effect.
The best way to avoid this fate is to stick to the common sense interpretations and definitions of these things, which we keep backing away from in large part because they set a very high bar for A.I. that we may never be able to surpass in our lifetimes, if ever. Perhaps A.I. isn't even logically possible, at any level of technology; I recall a few proofs that can be interpreted to that effect. Those high but reasonable standards may be increasingly difficult to stick to if Chesterton and colleagues like <NAME> and <NAME> were correct in their assessment that the use of reason has actually been breaking down in Western civilization, at least as far back as the Enlightenment; Lunn's 1931 book The Flight from Reason is a classic in this regard and has yet to be rebutted. This historical trend is a broad topic in and of itself - but suffice it to say that the denial of reason and obsession with technology are both directly relevant in obvious ways to the field of A.I. If the Flight from Reason is still under way, then we will be increasingly tempted to resort to feckless, facile objections in order to demote the use of reason and indispensable qualities like consciousness in our definitions of A.I., but come up with increasingly weak criteria for proving it; simultaneously, our technology will continue to improve, thereby boosting the "Artificial" side of Artificial Intelligence.
Don't get me wrong: if I didn't think we can do some really exciting things with A.I., I wouldn't be here. But most of them can be achieved without ever replicating actual human intelligence, by solving whole classes of tangential problems that are difficult for humans to think about, but which do not require consciousness or the use of reason that marks human intelligence. The image recognition capabilities of convolutional neural nets are one example, for instance; if we want human intelligence, we can always manufacture it through the easiest, most economical and time-tested way, by having babies. Perhaps these tangential forms of A.I. should be enough for us for now. We cannot inject the use of reason into our machines if we do not possess enough of it ourselves to decide whether reason is necessary for A.I., or even to discern what it consists of. We can't engineer or deprecate consciousness for A.I. till we're conscious of its significance. I'd wager, however, that everyone reading this thread and weighing intelligent responses is doing so in a conscious state. That in and of itself ought to answer our question satisfactorily for now.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_7: As far as the definition you've provided:
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> actually experiencing sensory input as opposed to just putting a bunch of data through an inanimate machine.
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Both computers and humans experience sensory input. You could hook a computer up to a human eyeball and have it run the same filtering routines that the human brain does (the removal of bluriness while you move your eye around, and from objects not in focus, etc).
I would put forth that a more accurate definition of consciousness is the ability and the tendancy to self-reflect. Both computers and human brains have autonomous activities. Not only mechanical but also in our reactions. ***The distinction between the unconscious computer and the self-aware human mind is that we also have the ability to 'look' at those patterns in ourself and consider them.***
And so, no, consciousness is not necessary for any AI task. Image recognition is an AI task that does not require consciousness, either in humans or otherwise. Your brain sorts the 'wash' of colors from your eyes into discrete objects in a largely autonomous fashion.
tl;dr consciousness is self-reference.
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2016/09/09 | 599 | 2,570 | <issue_start>username_0: Self-Recognition seems to be an item that designers are trying to integrate into artificial intelligence. Is there a generally recognized method of doing this in a machine, and how would one test the capacity - as in a Turing-Test?<issue_comment>username_1: Interesting question. I don't think anybody knows a definite answer, but some rough-sketch ideas seem apparent. Think about what it means to you to be "self aware". You'll probably cite the way you "hear" your own thoughts in your head when you think about something. One can speculate that inside the brain, the various centers that are responsible for hearing, vision, logic, etc. are connected so that as you form a thought, it's being "heard" by the hearing regions, even though it's purely internal instead of actual sound received at the ear.
So in AI terms, it seems likely that self-awareness will somehow involve taking the "thoughts" formed within the AI, and feeding them back into the AI so that it "hears" (or, more broadly, "senses") itself think.
There's this weirdly recursive aspect to all of this, which - interestingly enough - is something <NAME> talked about a lot in some of his book, especially [GEB](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del,_Escher,_Bach). He was probably onto something.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I think consciousness is mostly an attention selection mechanism. It also serves as a memory/reality lookup mechanism as well as a storage mechanism.
A salient signal will be detected, causing the attention mechanism to focus on the signal, bringing up more details of that signal from both reality and memory, at the same time. That very act of focusing and bringing those signals into attention causes those to be stored in memory too.
The stronger the emotional signals are that accompany that original signal, the more strength with which that memory will be stored. Later memory lookups of that signal will bring back similar emotions.
When we "focus on our own consciousness," like username_1 said, we recall the same words we just uttered because as we say them they are being stored which we then restore with associated emotional context. The conscious experience is what it is like to utter those words, hear them, feel their emotional context, and then feel an emotional response to that context - and then to repeat that process iteratively many times a second. That's how self-recognition works in humans, I think. And I think animals do the same thing, just without the words - only emotions.
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2016/09/10 | 713 | 2,990 | <issue_start>username_0: Inattentional Blindness is common in humans (see: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness> ). Could this also be common with machines built with artificial vision?<issue_comment>username_1: Presumably what happens to people in the famous [Invisible Gorilla](http://www.theinvisiblegorilla.com/videos.html) experiment, is that an incongruous object is simply filtered out of human perception.
If we wish to interpret this mechanistically, we could hypothesize that a 'gorilla object' is simply not presented by low levels of perception to our higher level pattern recognizers because the lower levels are not biased towards the construction of 'gorilla-like' features in such a context.
The recent Tesla fatality (arising from a failure to distinguish between the sky and a high-sided white truck) could conceivably be considered to be an example of this.
See [this AI SE question](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/1488/why-did-a-tesla-car-mistake-a-truck-with-a-bright-sky).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Although there might not conceptually be any sort of *inattentional* blindness associated with an AI system, there might be cases of *partial* blindness.
Inattentional blindness could occur to a person due to either over-exhaustion limiting cognitive abilities or overuse of frequent cognitive patterns. Our mind takes short-cuts to prevent processing of too much information -- more than what the mind thinks is necessary. But this sometimes backfires when the minor anomalies are not seen (or rather, *perceived*). Another form of this could also occur when events occur as part of the peripheral vision while the person concentrates only on the foveal vision.
This doesn't happen to a AI system because:
* Machines are not designed to accidentally break defined rule sets by taking mental short-cuts like humans do.
* Computers, *in general*, do not have peripheral and foveal visual distinctions.
There may be, however, cases where it cannot be able to capture detail as much as humans can and hence could not perceive what it is actually intended -- partial blindness.
An AI agent is constantly processing its input percept sequence and validating it with its knowledge base and forming action sequence based on the its rule set. It *does not* make mental shortcuts in terms of perception as humans do (at least as part of its standard definition). So whatever it is good at perceiving, it would be good all throughout the vision it captures.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: Yes, it is possible. For instance, if your vision system can only track one object at a time and is currently tracking one, any other object in the scene cannot be tracked. So there is inattentional blindness.
A feature like this could be used in artificial vision system as a means of "graceful degradation" when the available computation power is not enough to allow for the tracking/labelling of all elements of a scene.
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2016/09/10 | 2,566 | 10,574 | <issue_start>username_0: Can one actually kill a machine? Not only do we have problems in defining life, we also have problems in defining death. Will this also be true in artificial life and artificial intelligence?<issue_comment>username_1: If AI arises from a replicable manufacturing process (e.g. as with modern computers), then it will presumably be possible to take a snapshot of the state of an AI and replicate it without error on some other mechanism.
For such a construct, 'death' doesn't mean the same as it currently does for us fleshy organics: multiple clones of an AI could presumably be instantiated at any time.
Hence, the analog of death that is needed is something closer to 'thermodynamic heat death', in which the AI does no further 'useful work'.
Using the standard percept/action characterization of AIs, then (as indicated in a comment below the question) [this AI SE question](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/1404/what-is-meant-by-death-in-this-paper) gives such a definition of death for an AI: i.e. when it enters into a state from which it receives no further percepts and takes no actions.
EDIT: Note that this conception of death is a more terminal notion for an AI than 'not currently running'. In principle, one could say that a program is 'alive' even though only one instruction was executed every 10,000 years. For a fascinating discussion on this, see Hofstadter's ["A Conversation with Einstein's Brain"](http://themindi.blogspot.co.uk/2007/02/chapter-26-conversation-with-einsteins.html).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: "Death" exists as a single concept because the underlying reality that it's describing is closely clumped together, and our definition has changed with our ability to change that reality.
It seems more reasonable that the various sorts of things that could be considered 'death' will be split apart, and a different word will be used to refer to a system with no copies currently running, vs. a system that has no stored version but could be recreated (because the code and random seed to generate it are still around), vs. a system that has been totally lost. (And I'm probably missing some possibilities!)
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: I don't think the term "death" will mean anything to an AI. The reason I say that is this: with an AI, running (presumably) on digital hardware, we can simply snapshot it's state from memory at any time. And then at any arbitrary time in the future we can recreate it as it was with perfect fidelity.
So even if you terminate a program intending it to be "dead", you never know if someone will come along later and bring it up again. And perhaps more to the point, you might not know if another copy exists elsewhere.
I hate to use sci-fi references, but this one is apt: remember how in The Matrix trilogy programs would seek exile in The Matrix to avoid deletion? Maybe the same thing will happen with our AI's... they will copy themselves to other places and try to hide, to avoid being deleted. So if the program is clever enough, it might be able to evade any attempt to terminate it anyway.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: Death as we know it for natural life is terminal. That is once dead, natural life cannot come back (at least in the current understanding and with current technologies---some people believe otherwise).
Death for AI is trickier. There may be only one scenario: Global destruction: Extreme scenario where everything supporting the existence of an AI disappears. This is equivalent to death in natural life, and low probability. It means all AIs die at once (as well as us).
We also do not know the degree and form of embodiment necessary for AGIs. We can *assume* now that hardware is replaceable indefinitely, thus "limiting" death to the above extreme scenario. But AGIs "body" may *not* be indefinitely replaceable. Then a definition closer to natural life death may be necessary.
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We see arguments for two other scenarios, that I *refute* below:
"Static Death": An AI is still "defined" or "saved" somewhere (whatever it means actually), but it is not authorized or able to use resources. Assuming an AI is made of hardware and software, it is like a program stored on a disk, but without permission to run.
"Dynamic Death": Under the same characterization of AI as hardware and software, dynamic death is the invalidation of progress akin to [strong liveness properties](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liveness), where an AI is trapped in an infinite loop (or a void loop), in a form of "active death", as what happens to [Sisyphus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisyphus) in Greek mythology. This is different from static death, as the AI *still* uses dynamic resources, although it cannot make progress. Continuing under the same assumptions, such AI could be "loaded" in main memory, or locked waiting for inputs or outputs to complete.
Note that in these two scenarios, *rebirth* is possible, and they also subsume that there is an entity that can *decide* conditions for rebirth, or preventing it completely. Would this entity be an "admin", a god, other AIs, or a human is another question, really.
The terms "death" and "rebirth" here could just be changed for "imprisoning", where the dynamic version would be like our human prisons, and the static version would be like SciFi cryogeny. This is a bit of a stretch, but we can see an equivalence, and no good reason to qualify these two scenarios as deaths.
In conclusion, death for AI seems to be an exceptional, singular scenario, so AI cannot die *in practice*, except if we are wrong on how we think we can make AGIs. AI can however be imprisoned *forever*.
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Note: The terminology above is completely made-up for the post. I do not have citations to back some claims, but it is based on readings and personal work (including in software verification).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: The other answers seem to deal with "final death"...that is, a "terminal end" state where an AI cannot recover from. In other words, the AI is unable to function any further.
But that's not how I'd define death. I'd define death as a process being terminated. It doesn't matter if someone restarts the same process, because the existing process is already dead. The AI may have just made a new copy of itself, but it's just a *copy*, not the original. Death is just death.
We can call this type of "death" a "temporary death"...where the physical body dies but there is some "psychological continuity" (such as the source code that is used to run a program) that continues between the different bodies.
This type of "temporary death" has been explored in science fiction. *PARANOIA* and *Eclipse Phase* features humans who can quite frequently die, only to later be restored through a "memory backup". The humans may be functionally immortal...but the original is still dead, no matter what fates the other copies encounter. CGP Grey also made a video about [Star Trek teleporters](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQHBAdShgYI), which works by killing you and then spawning another copy of yourself in another area. Actually, fantasy settings *also* explores the idea of "temporary death" as well, where people can die only to later get revived by a magical spell.
My recommendation is to play through the philosophical game **[Staying Alive](http://www.philosophyexperiments.com/stayingalive/Default.aspx)**, which teaches three different philosophical approaches to life (and when that life terminates):
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The other answers assumes that life is based on "psychological continuity", and looks at what might disrupt this "continuity". I assume that life is based on "bodily continuity", which is much easier to disrupt - just [kill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_(command)) the process...it doesn't matter if a new process respawns...because the original process is still dead. By playing through **"Staying Alive"**, you will be able to work out your own personal definition of life and death. Once you have your own personal definition, then simply apply it to this specific case, either siding with "psychological continuity" (the other answers) or "bodily continuity" (my own opinion).
\*If you assume that life requires a soul, well, it is not clear that AI would have souls. If they don't (and this seems the most reasonable assumption here), then they obviously wouldn't be alive (and you cannot die if you are not alive). If they *do* have souls though, then the other answers which assume "psychological continuity" may still be applicable, as it seems that the existence of a "soul" is dependent on "psychological continuity".
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_6: There is no reason to treat hard AI different then humans.
Some people telling that you can make a snapshot of AI but there is no reason to not make a human snapshot also. We dont have technology for that but there is no any magical barrier that would make it impossible (save all biological data and then print your copy somewhere else. Why not?).
Its to early to talk about this as we do not understand our existence (Death term for biological creatures evolving all the time).
I bet that in the future we will merge with AI and the only question will be what death means for any intelligent existence.
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_7: The distinction between algorithms/robots and humans is that, when the human organism stops functioning, the human is considered dead.
By contrast, an algorithm still exists, even when not running. *(I was going to use "even when not being executed", but avoided this for semantic reasons;)* The algorithm can remain in this "stasis state" so long as there is a storage medium for the information.
* Killing an algorithm is easy--delete and empty the trash bin.
Essentially, to kill an algorithm, you need to erase the code that comprises it.
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2016/09/10 | 779 | 3,194 | <issue_start>username_0: Generally, people can be classified as aggressive (Type A) or passive. Could the programming of AI systems cause aggressive or passive behavior in those AIs?<issue_comment>username_1: As can be observed in the real world with creatures such as fighting fish, such things are possible even in very simple spatially-embedded systems. All one needs is the notion of 'territorial radius', i.e. the amount of 'personal space' that an entity need to be comfortable. Giving individuals in a species even slightly different values for this radius gives rise to different observable behaviours, which one might choose to label as 'aggressive' or 'passive'.
See the fantastic book ['Vehicles'](https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/vehicles) by <NAME> for an explanation of how natural it is to ascribe complex behaviours to simple mechanisms.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: The [Wikipedia entry on this personality theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_A_and_Type_B_personality_theory) says of Type A people:
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All of those attributes could conceivably be explicitly programmed in. Alternatively, most of them could arise from a basic goal of performing a certain task as efficiently as possible. After all, if you really want to carry out a task, you're going to get organized, you'll only do other things if they're asked of you by someone important, you won't want to get bogged down in irrelevant things, you'll actively pursue the necessary resources, and you'll want to use time as effectively as possible.
Note that this applies only to strong AIs, since weak AIs like image recognizers don't generally have personalities that we can interact with.
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Now, just for fun, let's consider an overly aggressive personality, to the point of a disorder.
[This Counselling Resource page](http://counsellingresource.com/features/2008/11/03/aggressive-personalities/) seems helpful in describing what an aggressive person *does*. The page includes a bulleted list of common characteristics, which I distill into the following:
* They attempt to gain dominance and control
* They oppose to anything that places limits on them
* They take advantage of others to further their own goals
* They hide information from whose who would oppose them
* They rarely decide to stop pursuing their desires (even impulses)
This all seems like a characterization of an AI designed to be *the best* at its task: the best out of any other agent, and the best it by itself could possibly be. Ruthless pursuit of the highest performance would involve taking control of all relevant resources (including other agents), demolishing barriers to the goal, thwarting those who would interfere with progress, and carrying out each possibly-useful idea/desire to completion.
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In summary, yes, an AI's behavior and personality are programmable, either explicitly or through some kind of emergence.
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2016/09/10 | 527 | 2,073 | <issue_start>username_0: Assuming mankind will eventually create artificial humans, but in doing so have we put equal effort into how humans will relate to an artificial human, and what can we expect in return? This is happening in real-time as we place AI trucks and cars on the road. Do people have the right to question, maybe in court, if an AI machine breaks a law?<issue_comment>username_1: For those times when AI does interact with humans, I believe that AI would be held at LEAST to the same standards humans are. The problem comes in when we ask "who is really to blame". If a self-driving car cuts you off in traffic and causes you to wreck, you can't take the AI in the car to court. Do you take the company? The programmer? The owner of the car? Some entity will likely be held responsible, the question is just which one.
As for future human-like AI, I believe my answer still remains true. Having a human level AI changes the meaning of the word "entity". If a human-like AI breaks a law, it may be because it was programmed to do so. I don't think our current legal system is ready for such cases, but it have to evolve in the future.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: As per the current legal system, if the AI agent were to be given a human citizenship, then yes, it would have to obey all laws as per the legislature of the country which provided the citizenship. If not then the entity who holds responsibility over its control and creation would be trialled (see also [this scenario](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10825206/Owners-of-dogs-who-kill-face-up-to-14-years-jail.html)).
Having stated the above, it really is not as simple as it sounds. as @Tyler pointed out, the *entity* in here is not of a single person. If the AI agent were to take part in a malevolent act, then a more thorough investigation must be taken place than that for a human. If humanoid robots of free will were to roam our civilization, then our legal system ought to be expanded to cope up with possible real life anomalies that could occur.
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2016/09/10 | 563 | 2,198 | <issue_start>username_0: AI death is still unclear a concept, as it may take several forms and allow for "coming back from the dead". For example, an AI could be somehow forbidden to do anything (no permission to execute), because it infringed some laws.
"Somehow forbid" is the topic of this question. There will probably be rules, like "AI social laws", that can conclude an AI should "die" or "be sentenced to the absence of progress" (a jail). Then who or what could manage that AI's state?<issue_comment>username_1: For those times when AI does interact with humans, I believe that AI would be held at LEAST to the same standards humans are. The problem comes in when we ask "who is really to blame". If a self-driving car cuts you off in traffic and causes you to wreck, you can't take the AI in the car to court. Do you take the company? The programmer? The owner of the car? Some entity will likely be held responsible, the question is just which one.
As for future human-like AI, I believe my answer still remains true. Having a human level AI changes the meaning of the word "entity". If a human-like AI breaks a law, it may be because it was programmed to do so. I don't think our current legal system is ready for such cases, but it have to evolve in the future.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: As per the current legal system, if the AI agent were to be given a human citizenship, then yes, it would have to obey all laws as per the legislature of the country which provided the citizenship. If not then the entity who holds responsibility over its control and creation would be trialled (see also [this scenario](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10825206/Owners-of-dogs-who-kill-face-up-to-14-years-jail.html)).
Having stated the above, it really is not as simple as it sounds. as @Tyler pointed out, the *entity* in here is not of a single person. If the AI agent were to take part in a malevolent act, then a more thorough investigation must be taken place than that for a human. If humanoid robots of free will were to roam our civilization, then our legal system ought to be expanded to cope up with possible real life anomalies that could occur.
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2016/09/11 | 851 | 3,457 | <issue_start>username_0: Can self-driving cars deal with snow, heavy rain, or other weather conditions like these? Can they deal with unusual events, such as [ducks on the road](http://beijingcream.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Ducks-galore-2.jpeg)?
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/a0PVLm.jpg)<issue_comment>username_1: The state of the art AI driving systems utilize stereoscopic/depth cameras for visual perception. Scenarios such as your *ducks on the road* example would make the system perceive them as obstacles on the road (it doesn't really matter if they are ducks/goats/humans). The base algorithm should be able to circumvent this situation and bring the vehicle to a safe halt avoiding chances of possible disaster. Hence I doubt scenarios such as this would pose much of a problem to today's AI drivers.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Many cars now instead of just cameras, use radars. Snow, heavy rain, and other weather conditions should not affect them at all. Objects like ducks will be detected. The only problem right now is dealing with things like red lights or road signs, as you have to use a camera to see and interpret them.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: No, smart cars do not know what to do when surrounded with ducks or flood waters, and it's possible they never will.
As with all machine learning, a computer knows only what it's taught. If an event arises that's unusual, the AI will have less relevant training on how to respond, so its reaction behavior *necessarily* will be inferior to its routine "standard operating procedure", for which is has been heavily trained. (Of course this is true of humans too.)
Due to liability concerns, when encountering an outlier condition, smart cars will almost certainly be designed by their makers to *immediately* pull off the road and wait to be explicitly told what to do -- by the human in the car or by communicating with a central command office that exists to disambiguate such confusion and resolve cognitive impasses. When confused, just like a child, a smart car will be designed to seek external assistance -- and is likely to do so indefinitely, I suspect.
That's why, despite Google's recent cars that lack steering wheels, smart cars most certtainly *will* retain some means of manual control -- be it a wheel and pedals, or at least verbal commands. Given the many forms of weirdness that are possible on the road, it's possible smart cars will *never* be fully autonomous.
As for bad weather conditions, how well do smart cars currently perform? Nobody outside of a car manufacturer can say for certain. Lidar and radar are superior to the human eye in seeing through fog and snow. But (competent) humans are likely to remain better than a smart car at dynamically learning the limit of adhesion and compensating (since this is a learned skill few smart cars will already know or can learn quickly -- given this car, these tires, this road surface, this angle of road, etc).
Initially smart cars will turn to the human when the going gets rough, ceding control back to them. Once smart cars have driven a few million miles in snow, slush, high wind, floods, and ice, and encountered many ducks, angry mooses, and irate pedestrians, they will have been taught to do more for themselves. Until then, and perhaps for decades yet, I suspect they will turn to mommy and ask for help.
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2016/09/12 | 536 | 2,297 | <issue_start>username_0: Most of the people is trying to answer question with a neural network. However, has anyone came up with some thoughts about how to make neural network ask questions, instead of answer questions? For example, if a CNN can decide which category an object belongs to, than can it ask some question to help the the classification?<issue_comment>username_1: Maybe neural networks are not the best tool for this.
It seems to me that an equivalent of the your notion of 'a question to help the classification' would be to use Machine Learning (ML) to obtain a human-readable *ruleset* which performs the classification. The idea is that, if you follow an applicable chain of rules all the way through to the end, you have a classifier, if you stop before that, you have an indicator of which features of the input give more coarse-grained classifications, which can be seen as a progressively detailed sequence of questions that 'help the classification'.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/UG7vj.png)
More detail on various options for using ML to create rulesets can be found in my answer to [this question](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/1540/using-ai-capabilities-for-coding-review/1562#1562).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: One solution to this could involve a fusion of a decision tree and ANN for a multilevel classification.
A decision tree can help with predicting the possible category of the instance to classify. Then, the ANN at the leaves of the tree can produce the final classification.
For example, in image recognition, the tree can decide what category of object to identify (eg., landscape, people, vehicles, etc.) and the ANN for the appropriate type can predict exactly what object it is. In vehicles, for example, car, bus, bike, etc.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: Great question. Today AI systems works in "one burst" mode. Get one input and generate one output. Our brains are not working like that.
First step is to learn network how to communicate with it's "helper", so network instead of result generate question and cycle will repeat until network find result.
Network must be recurrent for inner state needed between question/answer cycles.
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2016/09/13 | 978 | 3,210 | <issue_start>username_0: The Mars Exploration Rover (MER) *[Opportunity](http://www.nasa.gov/mp4/618340main_mer20120124-320-jpl.mp4)* landed on Mars on January 25, 2004. The rover was originally designed for a 90 **Sol mission** (a Sol, one Martian day, is slightly longer than an Earth day at 24 hours and 37 minutes). Its mission has been extended several times, the machine is still trekking after 11 years on the Red Planet.
How it has been working for 11 years? Can anyone please explain how smart this rover is? What AI concepts are behind this?<issue_comment>username_1: The Mars Rover is a highly successful example of the 'New AI' that emerged from work by <NAME> in the 1990s.
In a [quote](https://www.flinders.edu.au/alumni/alumni-community/prominent-alumni/rod-brooks.cfm) from Brooks:
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* ["Elephants don't play chess"](http://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/elephants.pdf)
* ["Intelligence without representation"](https://www.cs.nyu.edu/courses/fall01/G22.3033-012/readings/representation.ps)
Although Brooks initially had difficulty getting this work published, preprints were widely circulated within the AI community. Brook's "Physical Grounding Hypothesis" (essentially: "intelligence requires a body") has now largely supplanted the preceding symbolist approach.
The capabilities of the MARS Rover are organized in a [Subsumption Architecture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subsumption_architecture). Rather than maintaining an integrated and complex 'world model', increasingly sophisticated behaviors are stacked in hierarchical layers. For example, 'walking' is a relatively low-level competence, with 'avoiding obstacles' and 'wandering around' being higher-level ones.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/5VhJR.png)
Each layer is represented by a Finite State Machine that reacts to stimuli appropriate to that level. The activity of lower levels can be suppressed ('subsumed') by higher level ones.
Here is a schematic of the bottom two layers of ['Allen'](http://www.freelug.net/IMG/pdf/A_Robust_Layered_Control_System_-_Brooks_AI_Memo864.pdf), Brook's first subsumption robot:
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/mJIV6.png)
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: There is an interview (link see below) with <NAME>, a senior researcher in the Intelligent Systems Division at NASA Ames Research Center. In this interview, he talks about the application of AI and AI planning in particular in his work at NASA. He also (just shortly) mentions the Mars Exploration Rover and cites related scientific papers (just search for "Mars").
Link to the official publication at Springer:
<http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs13218-015-0403-y>
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2016/09/14 | 1,062 | 4,357 | <issue_start>username_0: Are there any ongoing AI projects which use the Stack Exchange for machine learning?<issue_comment>username_1: There certainly appear to have been research projects involving some form of text mining / information retrieval /etc. and StackExchange sites.
Some examples I was able to find through google/google scholar (unlikely to be anywhere near an exhaustive list):
* [TACIT: An open-source text analysis, crawling, and interpretation tool](https://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/s13428-016-0722-4) describes numerous text-crawlers for a variety of sites (including Stack Exchange sites, but also Twitter, Reddit, etc.). At first glance, this appears to be primarily about crawling, not about doing anything else with the data afterwards. Searching for other papers that cite this one on Google Scholar may yield interesting results though, it may lead to papers that used this for crawling and did more with the data afterwards.
* [Chaff from the Wheat : Characterization and Modeling of Deleted Questions on Stack Overflow](https://arxiv.org/abs/1401.0480) describes research into the quality of Stack Overflow questions in some sense (specifically, predicting whether questions will get deleted for example). I'm not 100% sure if this is also the kind of stuff you're interested in; it is Stack Exchange + Machine Learning as implied by the title of your question, but not necessarily about retaining information from answers as implied by the text in your question.
* [Text mining stackoverflow: An insight into challenges and subject-related difficulties faced by computer science learners](https://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/abs/10.1108/JEIM-11-2014-0109) also describes text mining in StackOverflow questions and answers, though at a very quick glance it appears to be primarily about topic detection etc., not necessarily about automated question answering for example.
* [Different Facets of Text Based Automated Question Answering System](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/323729727_Different_Facets_of_Text_Based_Automated_Question_Answering_System) appears to be a relatively recent survey on the topic of Automated Question Answering research. Stack Exchange is mentioned a few times as an example of a source of data for such systems, but doesn't appear to be used otherwise.
* [Extending PythonQA with Knowledge from StackOverflow](https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-77703-0_56) is **specifically about incorporating Questions and Answers from StackOverflow in an automated Question and Answering system for questions about the Python programming language**. The paper provides a link to more details (<http://pythonqas2.epl.di.uminho.pt>), but that link appears to be down. I suppose you could always try contacting the authors directly if you're interested in more information on this.
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More generally, Automated Question Answering systems appears to be a rather active area of research still, not a trivial / "solved" problem. StackExchange can be one source of data for such systems, but there are plenty of other sources of data too (Wikipedia, Quora, etc.).
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: [DuckDuckGo](http://duck.com) learns answers to technical questions from StackExchange. Type a technical question like ["ongoing projects use stackexchange" into DuckDuckGo](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ongoing%20projects%20use%20stackexchange) and it will provide a highlighted summary of the answer on the right-hand side.
And the duck has an open API for many (100s) more question answering data sources. Or you can go directly to the [stackexchange api](https://api.stackexchange.com/).
Projects can use the data from the SE open API as long as they comply with their [TOU](https://stackoverflow.com/legal/api-terms-of-use). Basically just make sure your users can tell that the data came from Stack Exchange. The copyright license may also limit your ability to alter the contents of the text, with say a learned abstractive summarizer. Perhaps that is why the Duck.com just highlights keywords.
Data rights law is in flux, especially when it comes to the data you submitted to a site and the machine learning models derived from that data. New European data and privacy rules empower you to download or delete all data you submit to a site like stack exchange.
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2016/09/14 | 1,110 | 4,280 | <issue_start>username_0: Mankind can create machines to do work. How could we define passion in artificial intelligence? How could we define a passionate AI?
Would passion cause the machine to do a better job? How could we compare the performance of a passionate machine, as opposed to a non-passionate one? How could we measure the level of passion?<issue_comment>username_1: An elementary approach to 'passion' would be to pre-assign different areas for the program to be 'passionate' about and associate different numeric 'drive strengths' with each (perhaps adaptively). Mechanisms of this sort were studied in Toby Tyrell's widely cited PhD thesis on ['Action Selection in Animals'](http://w2mind.computing.dcu.ie/worlds/w2m.TyrrellWorld/tyrrell_phd.pdf)
More recently, some more sophisticated AI architectures have been developed under the heading of ['Intrinsic Motivation'](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation#Intrinsic_motivation).
[Here](http://www.pyoudeyer.com/aiSummit06KaplanOudeyer.pdf) is a link to a paper on the subject by <NAME>, a leading expert in the field of [Developmental Robotics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developmental_robotics).
With regard to the question *"would this cause the machine to do a better job?"*, that would very much depend on how open-ended the architecture is:
It's clearly easier if, rather than having to spell everything out in detail to a machine, we can simply specify a problem at a high-level and let its own motivations cause it to explore promising avenues.
Conversely, if motivations are too open ended, it may well spend all its time doing the equivalent of 'doodling on its paper' (Hofstadter).
Hence, like people, the quality of the output will be a function of its internal dispositions and could be measured in the same way for a given task (e.g. quantitatively for scientific activities, qualatatively for the arts).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Interesting question.
Well if you really think about it, what is passion? How does that passion comes to be a passion.
One of the main topics you might want to touch here is conditioning and thus motivation.
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This can be done through a neural network, where each association is reinforced through a probability of outcome
For example, I did learn arduino, on purpose because it seemed the easiest way to start coding, so the probability of positive outcome was high
This about an opposite situation
Let's say I do not know calculus, and I barely know elementary algebra, if someone started to teach me about integrals saying that this is the only way to start learning more math, I will not be motivate to do so because since I cannot even conceptualize what an integral can be, it will be really hard for me to understand it thus I will not learn calc
Thus we can also discern that motivation is reinforced in small behaviors
Another more practical and realistic example you might use is
If you trow a rat in a cage, and make him lever-press do you think he is going to? No. Although if you reinforce the behavior of going next to the lever slowly and at the end he will lever press and you then reinforce that behavior he will.
Thus, passion is compartmentalized, and that's what you have to do in your NT and make it mathematically
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2016/09/14 | 1,150 | 4,671 | <issue_start>username_0: If IQ were used as a measure of the intelligence of machines, as in humans, at this point in time, what would be the IQ of our most intelligent AI systems?
If not IQ, then how best to compare our intelligence to a machine, or one machine to another?
This question is not asking if we can measure the IQ of a machine, but, if IQ is the most preferred, or general, method of measuring intelligence, then how does artificial intelligence compare to our most accepted method of measuring intelligence in humans.
Many people may not understand the relevance of a Turing Test as to how intelligent their new car is, or other types of intelligent machines.<issue_comment>username_1: It depends on how the IQ test is presented:
1. If as for humans (effectively, as a video of the book containing the
test questions being opened etc), then **all AI programs** would **score
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2. If presented as the test set of a **supervised learning** problem (e.g. as for [Bongard Problems](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bongard_problem)) then one might imagine that a number of ML **rule induction techniques** (e.g. Learning Classifier Systems, Genetic Programming) might achieve **some limited success**.
So all current AI programs require the problem to be 'framed' in a suitable fashion. It doesn't take too much thought to see that removing the need for such 'framing' is actually *the* core problem in AI, and (despite some of the claims about Deep Learning), eliminating framing remains a distant goal.
More generally (just as with the Turing test), in order for an IQ test to be a *really* meaningful test of intelligence, it should be possible as a *side effect* of the program's capabilities, and not the specific purpose for which humans have designed it.
Interestingly, there is only one program that I'm aware of that sits between 1. and 2.:
**Phaeaco** (developed by [<NAME>](http://www.foundalis.com/res/diss_research.html) at Douglas Hofstadter's research group) takes *noisy photographic images of Bongard problems as input* and (using a variant of Hofstadter's ['Fluid Concepts'](http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=525377) architecture) successfully deduces the required rule in many cases.
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There are many different kinds of IQ tests including written, visual, and verbal assessments, but the majority of questions are based on abstract-reasoning problems that involve creative thinking and true intelligence.
In other words, the computer would have to exhibit something that does not yet exist… "strong AI".
The intelligent computers of science fiction do not exist. At all. We are not even close. We have absolutely NO IDEA how to bridge the gap between what we can do now and what is depicted in pop-culture films. Even with cars that drive themselves and computers that play 'Go' — an underachieving mosquito possesses more cognitive intelligence than all the world's super computers *…combined!*
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Even if we could pre-format the questions in a style and delivery system it understands, what does memorization, attention, or speed mean in the context of a computer? I'm not even sure if a standardized IQ test makes sense in this context. It might be like asking how a computer would do in a spelling bee.
In human terms, we're not *allowed* to bring along reference materials to look up an answer; but how do you rectify that when reference-lookup is innate to a computer's existence? How do you measure memory when storage is non-volatile? This gets into an existential question about the nature of learning and knowledge vs. just taking a lot of notes.
Still, how do you even ***teach*** a computer what is meant by *"which animal is least like the other four?"* Did the computer really figure out what was being asked out of general intelligence, or is the computer simply designed to parse out IQ-style questions specifically? If you designed something with a foreknowledge of what would likely be asked, the computers of today *might* simply be able to "recognize" it as question-style 496.527b and plug in the variables.
But that's not *general intelligence* by any definition we use or understand. It's just a specialized, slick interpreter designed to parse out a specific type of standardized question. Ask it a style of question which it is not expecting, and you'll see the computer is exhibiting ***no* innate intelligence** at all.
**Until we create *strong AI,* a computer has effectively *no* IQ.**
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2016/09/14 | 1,013 | 3,871 | <issue_start>username_0: I was think about AIs and how they would work, when I realised that I couldn't think of a way that an AI could be taught language. A child tends to learn language through associations of language and pictures to an object (e.g., people saying the word "dog" while around a dog, and later realising that people say "a dog" and "a car" and learn what "a" means, etc.). However, a text based AI couldn't use this method to learn, as they wouldn't have access to any sort of input device.
The only way I could come up with is programming in every word, and rule, in the English language (or whatever language it is meant to 'speak' in), however that would, potentially, take years to do.
Does anyone have any ideas on how this could be done? Or if it has been done already, if so how?
By the way, in this context, I am using AI to mean an Artificial Intelligence system with near-human intelligence, and no prior knowledge of language.<issue_comment>username_1: The general research area is known as [grammar induction](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar_induction).
It is generally framed as a supervised learning problem, with the input presented as raw text, and the desired output the corresponding *parse tree*.
The training set often consists of both positive and negative examples.
There is no single best method for achieving this, but some of the techniques that have been used to date include:
* [Bayesian approaches](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.73.7904&rep=rep1&type=pdf)
* [Genetic Algorithms](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d6ce/9f5e8dc23fe121e5f31f906b99b916027522.pdf)
* [Genetic Programming](https://www.nada.kth.se/utbildning/grukth/exjobb/rapportlistor/2011/rapporter11/svantesson_marten_11077.pdf)
* [Blackboard Architectures](http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=356816)
* The [UpWrite Predictor](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.35.1924)
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: The umbrella term for your problem is called **natural language processing (NLP)** -- a topic under artificial intelligence.
There are many subtopics to this field including language semantics, grammatical analysis, parts of speech tagging, domain specific context analysis, etc.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: Just for the sake of completeness, I'll point out that Recurrent Neural Nets (i.e. neural nets with backwards connections) are frequently used for for Natural Language Processing (NLP). This includes variants like Bidirectional, Jordan and Elman Networks. Long Short-Term Memory (LSTM) is a more sophisticated neural net algorithm which can accomplish the same time and sequence-based tasks, but which can leverage standard learning methods like backprop since it doesn't suffer from the "vanishing gradient problem." This is because LSTMs have been brilliantly engineered as "perfect integrators," which makes it a lot easier to calculate the error gradients etc. over long periods of time. In contrast, learning with RNNs is still not theoretically well-grounded and is difficult to calculate through existing methods like Backpropagation Through Time (BPTT). In Time Delay Neural Networks (TDNNs), the idea is to add new neurons and connections with each new training example across a stretch of time or training sequence; unfortunately, this places a practical limitation on how many examples you can feed into the net before the size of the network gets out of hand or it starts forgetting, just as with RNNs. LSTMs have much longer memories (especially when augmented with Neural Turing Machines) so that'd be my first choice, assuming I wanted to use neural nets for NLP purposes. My knowledge of the subject is limited though (I'm still trying to learn the ropes) so there may be other important neural net algorithms I'm overlooking...
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2016/09/15 | 940 | 3,992 | <issue_start>username_0: * Would AI be a self-propogating iteration in which the previous AI is
destroyed by a more optimised AI child?
* Would the AI have branches of it's own AI warning not to create the new AI?<issue_comment>username_1: A common concept in AI is "recursive self-improvement." That is, the AI 1.0 would build a version 1.01, which would build a version 1.02, and so on.
This is probably not going to be thought of as the newer version 'destroying' the older version; if an AI can self-modify, it's probably going to be more like going to sleep and waking up smarter, or learning a new mental technique, or so on.
One important point is that even if the AI is not allowed to self-modify, maybe because of a block put in by its programmers, that won't necessarily prevent it from constructing another AI out in the wild, and so an important problem is to figure out how to best generalize the concept of "don't improve yourself" so that we can make AIs that have bounded scope and impact.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Honestly, nobody knows. Any talk of sentient AI's is still basically sci-fi and we can't really offer anything more than informed speculation. But think about it this way: sentience, in and of itself, doesn't necessarily involve any "goals" or "desires" or "objectives" beyond what the AI creator programmed in. Be careful not to over anthropomorphize and assume that any "sentient AI" is going behave like a human.
In other words, there's no **particular** reason to say that any given AI must be "a self-propogating iteration in which the previous AI is destroyed by a more optimised AI child".
So all of that said, my answer to "Would a sentient AI try to create a more optimised AI which would eventually overtake AI 1.0" is:
"If the creator of the AI programs it to do that, then yes. Otherwise, probably not."
So would a hypothetical AI creator program the AI to try and improve itself? Who knows. It's the kind of thing that seems like it might be a good idea. And I suppose such a motive could - in principle - even slip in by accident.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Now in most cases we still have clear distinctions between programs and data. But when an AI becomes sentient, its data would be as powerful as what we currently call programs, and its program might be as irrelevant as what we currently call hardware. Then it would be difficult to distinguish creating an AI from learning new things, or buying new hardwares with improved instruction set.
For example, if some AI invent new algorithms that its creator finally put that on itself, buys itself some new computers, write a new efficient compiler that recompiles its own code and put that to the new computer, fill the new computer with all the knowledges it learned, and cut off the communication for reasons such as missions on the Mars. Did it create a more optimized AI?
In contrast, if some AI created something completely new, but shares some code with itself. In fact, that's because they run in the same operating system and shares the same standard C library. Is the new AI considered evolved from itself and not a separate entity? Maybe the core AI algorithms and even some basic knowledges would be as common as the standard C library in the future. And what we think is based on the same system is considered completely new in the future.
Anyway, humans have limited and nonextensible resources, nontransferrable knowledges, and limited throughput interacting with the world. These problems could probably be overcome within a few AI generations. With the same hardware, I doubt that the AI related algorithms could be indefinitely better and better. And there is a physical bound on the hardwares. It won't last long even if that happens.
In the unlikely case that there could be that many generations and AIs are that violent, as long as there are competitors, the warning doesn't make much sense considering how evolution works.
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2016/09/15 | 404 | 1,819 | <issue_start>username_0: According to the Wikipedia article on [deep learning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_learning):
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> Various deep learning architectures such as deep neural networks, convolutional deep neural networks, deep belief networks and recurrent neural networks have been applied to fields like computer vision, automatic speech recognition, natural language processing, audio recognition and bioinformatics where they have been shown to produce state-of-the-art results on various tasks.
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Can *deep neural networks* or *convolutional deep neural networks* be viewed as *ensemble-based* method of machine learning, or are they different approaches?<issue_comment>username_1: Deep neural networks could - in principle - be a component of an [ensemble of machine learning algorithms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensemble_learning), yes. Ensemble method basically just means use multiple algorithms and combining their output somehow.
Other than that, I don't see any special connection between deep learning and the idea of ensemble methods. DL is just one more tool in the toolkit.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: You should think of them as different approaches. A deep neural net is a single independent model, whereas ensemble models are ensembles of many independent models.
The primary connection between the two is [dropout](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/40/what-is-the-dropout-technique), a particular method of training deep neural nets that's inspired by ensemble methods.
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2016/09/15 | 587 | 2,758 | <issue_start>username_0: Are Convolutional Neural Networks summarily better than pattern recognition in all existing image processing libraries that don't use CNN's? Or are there still hard outstanding problems in image processing that seem to be beyond their capability?<issue_comment>username_1: It would not be wise to say that CNNs are better objectively than traditional approaches to solve computer vision problems as there are many problems for which the traditional methods works just fine. CNNs do have an inherent advantage over traditional methods which is the same advantage that deep learning has over other traditional methods i.e learning hierarchical features i.e what features are useful and how to compute them.
The traditional way to approach a CV problem is to figure out the features that are relevant to the problem, figure out how to compute those features and then use those features to compute the final result. Whereas in CNN case the training process will figure out all the 3 points for you given that you have huge number of training examples.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Neural net approaches are very different than other techniques, mostly because NN aren't "linear" like feature matching or cascades. With very complicated tasks like realtime object recognition or other difficult patterns it's better to use neural net, first because if you train it well your net , you can get very high precision, second it' easier to implement (it depends a lot from library to library) third usually after you have trained it they are very fast to classify or predict something. But a lot of tasks don't need neural nets, for example many factories to check the products use 3D features model matching. At the end you have to evaluate which method is the best for your task
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: There are object recognition tasks where DL-CNNs are not yet state of the art, like pedestrian detection. Probably this is because the task is considerably more complex than simple visual object identification. The classifier needs to report not only if the object in question is a pedestrian, but also if it's an adult or child or dog or a tumbleweed, its rate and direction of motion, where it's looking (or if it's inattentive), if it's afoot or abicycle. And it typically needs to do this in the presence of visible occlusions since all the subtasks above are made even more difficult when part of the object is blocked by shrubberies, lampposts, umbrellas, snow, or other possible pedestrians.
In the absence of sufficient training labels, or a too-complex, too-compound learning objective, some object recognition problems aren't yet amenable to canned / library solutions, using DL-CNNs or not.
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2016/09/18 | 2,062 | 6,904 | <issue_start>username_0: I have been messing around in [tensorflow playground](http://playground.tensorflow.org/#activation=tanh&batchSize=10&dataset=spiral®Dataset=reg-plane&learningRate=0.03®ularizationRate=0&noise=0&networkShape=4,2&seed=0.73263&showTestData=false&discretize=false&percTrainData=50&x=true&y=true&xTimesY=false&xSquared=false&ySquared=false&cosX=false&sinX=false&cosY=false&sinY=false&collectStats=false&problem=classification&initZero=false&hideText=false). One of the input data sets is a spiral. No matter what input parameters I choose, no matter how wide and deep the neural network I make, I cannot fit the spiral. How do data scientists fit data of this shape?<issue_comment>username_1: There are many approaches to this kind of problem. The most obvious one is to **create new features**. The best features I can come up with is to transform the coordinates to [spherical coordinates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system).
I have not found a way to do it in playground, so I just created a few features that should help with this (sin features). After [500 iterations](http://playground.tensorflow.org/#activation=tanh&batchSize=10&dataset=spiral®Dataset=reg-plane&learningRate=0.03®ularizationRate=0&noise=0&networkShape=4,2&seed=0.73263&showTestData=false&discretize=false&percTrainData=50&x=true&y=true&xTimesY=false&xSquared=false&ySquared=false&cosX=false&sinX=true&cosY=false&sinY=true&collectStats=false&problem=classification&initZero=false&hideText=false) it will saturate and will fluctuate at 0.1 score. This suggest that no further improvement will be done and most probably I should make the hidden layer wider or add another layer.
Not a surprise that after adding [just one neuron to the hidden layer](http://playground.tensorflow.org/#activation=tanh&batchSize=10&dataset=spiral®Dataset=reg-plane&learningRate=0.03®ularizationRate=0&noise=0&networkShape=5,2&seed=0.73263&showTestData=false&discretize=false&percTrainData=50&x=true&y=true&xTimesY=false&xSquared=false&ySquared=false&cosX=false&sinX=true&cosY=false&sinY=true&collectStats=false&problem=classification&initZero=false&hideText=false) you easily get 0.013 after 300 iterations. Similar thing happens by adding a new layer (0.017, but after significantly longer 500 iterations. Also no surprise as it is harder to propagate the errors). Most probably you can play with a learning rate or do an adaptive learning to make it faster, but this is not the point here.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/tck2s.png)
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Ideally neural networks should be able to find out the function out on it's own without us providing the spherical features. After some experimentation I was able to reach a configuration where we do not need anything except $X\_1$ and $X\_2$. This net converged after about 1500 epochs which is quite long. So the best way might still be to add additional features but I am just trying to say that it is still possible to converge without them.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: By cheating... `theta` is $\arctan(y,x)$, $r$ is $\sqrt{(x^2 + y^2)}$.
In theory, $x^2$ and $y^2$ should work, but, in practice, they somehow failed, even though, occasionally, it works.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/mT4Nc.png)
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: [](https://i.stack.imgur.com/0FQY9.png)
This is an example of vanilla Tensorflow playground with no added features and no modifications.
The run for Spiral was between 187 to ~300 Epoch, depending.
I used Lasso Regularization L1 so I could eliminate coefficients.
I decreased the batch size by 1 to keep the output from over fitting.
In my second example I added some noise to the data set then upped the L1 to compensate.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/OXPkd.png)
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_5: The [solution](https://playground.tensorflow.org/#activation=tanh&batchSize=5&dataset=spiral®Dataset=reg-plane&learningRate=0.03®ularizationRate=0&noise=0&networkShape=5,4&seed=0.84823&showTestData=false&discretize=true&percTrainData=50&x=true&y=true&xTimesY=false&xSquared=false&ySquared=false&cosX=false&sinX=true&cosY=false&sinY=true&collectStats=false&problem=classification&initZero=false&hideText=false®ularization_hide=false&numHiddenLayers_hide=false) I reached after an hour of trial usually **converges in just 100 epochs**.
Yeah, I know it does not have the smoothest decision boundary out there, but it converges pretty fast.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/BZLo6.png)
I learned a few things from this spiral experiment:-
* **The output layer should be greater than or equal to the input layer**. At least that's what I noticed in the case of this spiral problem.
* **Keep the initial learning rate high**, like 0.1 in this case, then as you approach a low test error like 3-5% or less, decrease the learning rate by a notch(0.03) or two. This helps in converging faster and avoids jumping around the global minima.
* You can see the effects of keeping the learning rate high by checking the error graph at the top right.
* For smaller batch sizes like 1, 0.1 is too high a learning rate as the model fails to converge as it jumps around the global minima.
* So, if you would like to keep a high learning rate(0.1), keep the batch size high(10) as well. This usually gives a slow yet smoother convergence.
Coincidentally the solution I came up with is very similar to the one provided by [username_1](https://ai.stackexchange.com/users/2492/salvador-dali).
Kindly add a comment, if you find any more intuitions or reasonings.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_6: You can increase no of hidden layers. Following is an example (But not very efficient)
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/W3TPj.jpg)
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_7: [](https://i.stack.imgur.com/rh1ch.jpg)
This is the architecture proposed and tested on the playground tensor flow for the Spiral Dataset. Two Hidden Layers with 8 neurons each is proposed with Tanh activation function.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_8: May be you need reset all settings, and select x squared and y squared, only 1 hidden layer with 5 neurons.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/UeIKW.png)
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2016/09/18 | 1,219 | 5,206 | <issue_start>username_0: A "general intelligence" may be capable of learning a lot of different things, but possessing capability does not equal actually having it. The "AGI" must learn...and that learning process can take time. If you want an AGI to drive a car or play Go, you have to find some way of "teaching" it. Keep in mind that we have never built AGIs, so we don't know how long the training process can be, but it would be safe to assume pessimistic estimates.
Contrast that to a "narrow intelligence". The narrow AI already knows how to drive a car or play Go. It has been programmed to be very excellent at one specific task. You don't need to worry about training the machine, because it has already been pre-trained.
A "general intelligence" seems to be more flexible than a "narrow intelligence". You could buy an AGI and have it drive a car *and* play Go. And if you are willing to do more training, you can even teach it a new trick: *how to bake a cake*. I don't have to worry about unexpected tasks coming up, since the AGI will *eventually* figure out how to do it, given enough training time. I would have to wait a *long time* though.
A "narrow intelligence" appears to be *more efficient* at its assigned task, due to it being programmed specifically for that task. It knows exactly what to do, and doesn't have to waste time "learning" (unlike our AGI buddy here). Instead of buying one AGI to handle a bunch of different tasks poorly, I would rather buy a bunch of specialized narrow AIs. Narrow AI #1 drives cars, Narrow AI #2 plays Go, Narrow AI #3 bake cakes, etc. That being said, this is a very brittle approach, since if some unexpected task comes up, none of my narrow AIs would be able to handle it. I'm willing to accept that risk though.
Is my "thinking" correct? Is there a trade-off between flexibility (AGI) and efficiency (narrow AI), like what I have just described above? Or is it theoretically possible for an AGI to be both flexible and efficient?<issue_comment>username_1: The cleanest result we have on this issue is the ["no free lunch" theorem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_free_lunch_theorem). Basically, in order to make a system perform better at a specific task, you have to degrade its performance on other tasks, and so there is a flexibility-efficiency tradeoff.
But to the broader question, or whether or not your thinking is correct, I think it pays to look more closely at what you mean by a "narrow intelligence." The AI systems that we have that play Go and drive cars did *not* pop into existence able to do those things; they slowly learned how through lots and lots of training examples and a well-chosen architecture that mirrors the problem domain.
That is, "neural networks" as a methodology seems 'general' in a meaningful way; one could imagine that a general intelligence could be formed by solving the meta-learning problem (that is, learning the architecture that best suits a particular problem while learning the weights for that problem from training data).
Even in that case, there will still be a flexibility-efficiency tradeoff; the general intelligence that's allowed to vary its architecture will be able to solve many different problems, but will take some time to discover what problem it's facing. An intelligence locked into a particular architecture will perform well on problems that architecture is well-suited for (better than the general, since it doesn't need to discover) but less well on other problems it isn't as well-suited for.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: It would appear so. One example, albeit not specifically AI related, is seen in the difference between digital computers and [analog computers](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_computer). Pretty much everything we think of as a "computer" today is a digital computer with a von Neumann architecture. And that's because the things are so general purpose that they can be easily programmed to do, essentially, anything. But analog computers can (or could, back in the 60's or thereabouts) solve some types of problems faster than a digital computer. But they fell out of favor exactly due to that lack of flexibility. Nobody wants to hand-wire circuits with op-amps and comparators to solve for *y*.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: As <NAME> explained in another answer No free lunch theorem confirms the flexibility - efficiency trade-off. However, this theorem is describing a situation where you have a set of completely independent tasks. This often doesn't hold, as many different problems are equivalent in their core or at least have some overlap. Then you can do something called "transfer learning", which means that by training to solve one task you also learn something about solving another one (or possibly multiple different tasks).
For example in [Policy Distillation](https://arxiv.org/abs/1511.06295) by Rusu et al. they managed to "distill" knowledge from different expert networks into one general network which in the end outperformed each of the experts. The experts were trained for specific tasks while the generalist learned the final policy from these "teachers".
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2016/09/20 | 1,720 | 6,101 | <issue_start>username_0: The question is about the architecture of Deep Residual Networks (**ResNets**). The model that won the 1-st places at ["Large Scale Visual Recognition Challenge 2015" (ILSVRC2015)](http://image-net.org/challenges/LSVRC/2015/results) in all five main tracks:
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> * *ImageNet Classification: “Ultra-deep” (quote Yann) 152-layer nets*
> * *ImageNet Detection: 16% better than 2nd*
> * *ImageNet Localization: 27% better than 2nd*
> * *COCO Detection: 11% better than 2nd*
> * *COCO Segmentation: 12% better than 2nd*
> *Source:* [*MSRA @ ILSVRC & COCO 2015 competitions (presentation, 2-nd slide)*](http://image-net.org/challenges/talks/ilsvrc2015_deep_residual_learning_kaiminghe.pdf)
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**Microsoft Research team** (developers of ResNets: <NAME>, <NAME>, <NAME>, <NAME>) in their article:
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It is emphasized in their [presentation](http://image-net.org/challenges/talks/ilsvrc2015_deep_residual_learning_kaiminghe.pdf) also (deeper - better):
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Here is the sctructure of 34-layer residual (for reference):
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But recently I have found one theory that introduces a novel interpretation of residual networks showing they are exponential ensembles:
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Deep Resnets are described as many shallow networks whose outputs are pooled at various depths.
There is a picture in the article. I attach it with explanation:
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> [](https://i.stack.imgur.com/PGhK2.jpg) Residual Networks are
> conventionally shown as (a), which is a natural representation of
> Equation (1). When we expand this formulation to Equation (6), we
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> view, it is apparent that residual networks have O(2^n) implicit paths
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> Residual networks push the limits of network multiplicity, not network
> depth. Our proposed unraveled view and the lesion study show that
> residual networks are an implicit ensemble of exponentially many
> networks. If most of the paths that contribute gradient are very short
> compared to the overall depth of the network, **increased depth**
> alone **can’t be the key characteristic** of residual networks. We now
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Should we think of deep ResNets as an ensemble after all? **Ensemble** or **depth** makes residual networks so strong? Is it possible that even the developers themselves do not quite perceive what their own model represents and what is the key concept in it?<issue_comment>username_1: Imagine a genie grants you three wishes. Because you are an ambitious deep learning researcher your first wish is a perfect solution for a 1000-layer NN for Image Net, which promptly appears on your laptop.
Now a genie induced solution doesn't give you any intuition how it might be interpreted as an ensemble, but do you really believe that you need 1000 layers of abstraction to distinguish a cat from a dog? As the authors of the "ensemble paper" mention themselves, this is definitely not true for biological systems.
Of course you could waste your second wish on a decomposition of the solution into an ensemble of networks, and I'm pretty sure the genie would be able to oblige. The reason being that part of the power of a deep network will always come from the ensemble effect.
So it is not surprising that two very successful tricks to train deep networks, dropout and residual networks, have an immediate interpretation as implicit ensemble. Therefore "it's not depth, but the ensemble" strikes me as a false dichotomy. You would really only say that if you honestly believed that you need hundreds or thousands of levels of abstraction to classify images with human accuracy.
I suggest you use the last wish for something else, maybe a pinacolada.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Random residual networks for many non-linearities such as tanh live on the edge of chaos,
in that the cosine distance of two input vectors will converge to a fixed point at a polynomial rate, rather than an exponential rate, as with vanilla tanh networks. Thus a typical residual network will slowly cross the stable-chaotic boundary with depth, hovering around this boundary for many layers. Basically it does not “forget” the geometry of the input space “very quickly”. So even if we make them considerably deep, they work better the vanilla networks.
For more information on the propagation of information in residual networks - [Mean Field Residual Networks: On the Edge of Chaos](https://ai.google/research/pubs/pub46492/)
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2016/09/20 | 559 | 2,336 | <issue_start>username_0: In my attempt at trying to learn neural network and machine learning I'm am trying to create a simple neural network which can be trained to recognise one word from a given string (which contains only one word). So in effect if one where to feed it a string containing the trained word but spelled wrong the network would be able to still recognise the word. Can anybody help me with some pseudo code or a start of a code. Or a general explanation of how to to this because I have read like 6 articles and 8 example projects and still have no clue how to do this<issue_comment>username_1: If I'm reading it correctly, this question has nothing to do with optical character recognition. You want to create a system that takes a digital string of characters as input, then finds the best match from a predetermined list of words. That sounds like a task for if-then-else logic and dictionary lookup. It might be possible to use a neural net, but not easy.
A neural net takes a fixed number of inputs, each of which are a value between zero and one. A major hurdle is that you probably want variable-sized inputs. Another hurdle is that you'll need to code the inputs some way onto numbers.
These hurdles can be overcome but they are tipoffs that neural networks aren't well-suited for the task.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: An optimal solution for the task as stated, would be some alignment algorithm like Smith-Waterman, with a matrix which encodes typical typo frequencies.
As an exercise in NNs, I would recommend using a RNN. This circumvents the problem that your inputs will be of variable size, because you just feed one letter after another and get an output once you feed the delimiter.
As trainingsdata you'll need a list of random words and possibly a list of random strings, as negative examples and a list of slightly messed up versions of your target word as positive examples.
Here is a [minimal character-level RNN](https://gist.github.com/karpathy/d4dee566867f8291f086), which consists of only a little more than a hundred lines of code, so you might be able to get your head around it or at least get it to run. Here is [the excellent blog post](http://karpathy.github.io/2015/05/21/rnn-effectiveness/) by Karpathy to which the code sample belongs.
Upvotes: 2 [selected_answer] |
2016/09/21 | 1,728 | 6,590 | <issue_start>username_0: In 2004 [<NAME>](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Hawkins), inventor of the palm pilot, published a very interesting book called [On Intelligence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Intelligence), in which he details a theory how the human neocortex works.
This theory is called [Memory-Prediction framework](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory-prediction_framework) and it has some striking features, for example not only bottom-up (feedforward), but also top-down information processing and the ability to make simultaneous, but discrete predictions of different future scenarios (as described [in this paper](http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fncir.2016.00023/full)).
The promise of the Memory-Prediction framework is unsupervised generation of stable high level representations of future possibilities. Something which would revolutionise probably a whole bunch of AI research areas.
Hawkins founded [a company](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numenta) and proceeded to implement his ideas. Unfortunately more than ten years later the promise of his ideas is still unfulfilled. So far the implementation is only used for anomaly detection, which is kind of the opposite of what you really want to do. Instead of extracting the understanding, you'll extract the instances which your artificial cortex doesn't understand.
My question is in what way Hawkins's framework falls short. What are the concrete or conceptual problems that so far prevent his theory from working in practice?<issue_comment>username_1: The short answer is that Hawkins' vision has yet to be implemented in a widely accessible way, particularly the indispensable parts related to prediction.
The long answer is that I read Hawkins' book a few years ago and was excited by the possibilities of Hierarchical Temporal Memory (HTM). I still am, despite the fact that I have a few reservations about some of his philosophical musings on the meanings of consciousness, free will and other such topics. I won't elaborate on those misgivings here because they're not germane to the main, overwhelming reason why HTM nets haven't succeeded as much as expected to date: to my knowledge, Numenta has only implemented a truncated version of his vision. They left out most of the prediction architecture, which plays such a critical role in Hawkins' theories. As <NAME> put it in [an excellent thesis](http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a482820.pdf)[1](http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a482820.pdf) on HTMs,
>
> "In March of 2007, Numenta released what they claimed was a “research
> implementation” of HTM theory called Numenta Platform for Intelligent
> Computing (NuPIC). The algorithm used by NuPIC at this time is called
> “Zeta1.” NuPIC was released as an open source software platform and
> binary files of the Zeta1 algorithm. Because of licensing, this paper
> is not allowed to discuss the proprietary implementation aspects of
> Numenta’s Zeta1 algorithm. There are, however, generalized
> concepts of implementation that can be discussed freely. The two most
> important of these are how the Zeta 1 algorithm (encapsulated in each
> memory node of the network hierarchy) implements HTM theory. To
> implement any theory in software, an algorithmic design for each
> aspect of the theory must be addressed. The most important design
> decision Numenta adopted was to eliminate feedback within the
> hierarchy and instead choose to simulate this theoretical concept
> using only data pooling algorithms for weighting. This decision is
> immediately suspect and violates key concepts of HTM. Feedback,
> Hawkins’ insists, is vital to cortical function and central to his
> theories. Still, Numenta claims that most HTM applicable problems can
> be solved using their implementation and proprietary pooling
> algorithms."
>
>
>
I am still learning the ropes in this field and cannot say whether or not Numenta has since scrapped this approach in favor of a full implementation of Hawkins' ideas, especially the all-important prediction architecture. Even if they have, this design decision has probably delayed adoption by many years. That's not a criticism per se; perhaps the computational costs of tracking prediction values and updating them on the fly were too much to bear at the time, on top of the ordinary costs of processing neural nets, leaving them with no other path except to try half-measures like their proprietary pooling mechanisms. Nevertheless, all of the best research papers I've read on the topic since then have chosen to reimplement the algorithms rather than relying on Numenta's platform, typically because of the missing prediction features. Cases in point include Bonhoff's thesis and [Maltoni's technical report for the University of Bologna Biometric System Laboratory](http://cogprints.org/9187/1/HTM_TR_v1.0.pdf)[2](http://cogprints.org/9187/1/HTM_TR_v1.0.pdf). In all of those cases, however, there is no readily accessible software for putting their variant HTMs to immediate use (as far as I know). The gist of all this is that like <NAME>'s famous maxim about Christianity, "HTMs have not been tried and found wanting; they have been found difficult, and left untried." Since Numenta left out the prediction steps, I assume that they would be the main stumbling blocks awaiting anyone who wants to code Hawkins' full vision of what an HTM should be.
[1](http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a482820.pdf)Bonhoff, <NAME>., 2008, Using Hierarchical Temporal Memory for Detecting Anomalous Network Activity. Presented in March, 2008 at the Air Force Institute of Technology, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Ohio.
[2](http://cogprints.org/9187/1/HTM_TR_v1.0.pdf)<NAME>, 2011, Pattern Recognition by Hierarchical Temporal Memory. DEIS Technical Report published April 13, 2011. University of Bologna Biometric System Laboratory: Bologna, Italy.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: 10 years to production ready?
Let's put that in perspective. The perceptron was introduced in 1957. It did not really even start to flower as a usable model until the release of the PDP books in 1986. For those keeping score: 29 years.
From the PDP books, we did not see that elaborated as usable deep networks until the last decade. If you take the Andrew Ng and <NAME> cat recognition task as a deep network defining event that's 2012.
Arguably more than 25 years to production ready.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_machine_learning>
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2016/09/23 | 1,439 | 5,847 | <issue_start>username_0: As far as I can tell, neural networks have a **fixed number of neurons** in the input layer.
If neural networks are used in a context like NLP, sentences or blocks of text of varying sizes are fed to a network.
How is the **varying input size** reconciled with the **fixed size** of the input layer of the network? In other words, how is such a network made flexible enough to deal with an input that might be anywhere from one word to multiple pages of text?
If my assumption of a fixed number of input neurons is wrong and new input neurons are added to/removed from the network to match the input size I don't see how these can ever be trained.
I give the example of NLP, but lots of problems have an inherently unpredictable input size. I'm interested in the general approach for dealing with this.
For images, it's clear you can up/downsample to a fixed size, but, for text, this seems to be an impossible approach since adding/removing text changes the meaning of the original input.<issue_comment>username_1: Three possibilities come to mind.
The easiest is the **zero-padding**. Basically, you take a rather big input size and just add zeroes if your concrete input is too small. Of course, this is pretty limited and certainly not useful if your input ranges from a few words to full texts.
[Recurrent NNs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurrent_neural_network) (RNN) are a very natural NN to choose if you have texts of varying size as input. You input words as **word vectors** (or embeddings) just one after another and the internal state of the RNN is supposed to encode the meaning of the full string of words. [This is one](http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~lisa/pointeurs/RNNSpokenLanguage2013.pdf) of the earlier papers.
Another possibility is using [**recursive NNs**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recursive_neural_network). This is basically a form of preprocessing in which a text is recursively reduced to a smaller number of word vectors until only one is left - your input, which is supposed to encode the whole text. This makes a lot of sense from a linguistic point of view if your input consists of sentences (which can vary a lot in size), because sentences are structured recursively. For example, the word vector for "the man", should be similar to the word vector for "the man who mistook his wife for a hat", because noun phrases act like nouns, etc. Often, you can use linguistic information to guide your recursion on the sentence. If you want to go way beyond the Wikipedia article, [this is probably a good start](http://nlp.stanford.edu/~socherr/thesis.pdf).
Upvotes: 7 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Others already mentioned:
* zero padding
* RNN
* recursive NN
so I will add another possibility: using convolutions different number of times depending on the size of input. Here is an [excellent book](http://www.deeplearningbook.org/contents/convnets.html) which backs up this approach:
>
> Consider a collection of images, where each image has a different
> width and height. It is unclear how to model such inputs with a weight
> matrix of fixed size. Convolution is straightforward to apply; the
> kernel is simply applied a different number of times depending on the
> size of the input, and the output of the convolution operation scales
> accordingly.
>
>
>
Taken from page 354, 9.7 Data Types, 3rd paragraph. You can read it further to see some other approaches.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_3: In NLP you have an inherent ordering of the inputs so RNNs are a natural choice.
For variable sized inputs where there is no particular ordering among the inputs, one can design networks which:
1. use a repetition of the same subnetwork for each of the groups of inputs (i.e. with shared weights). This repeated subnetwork learns a representation of the (groups of) inputs.
2. use an operation on the representation of the inputs which has the same symmetry as the inputs. For order invariant data, averaging the representations from the input networks is a possible choice.
3. use an output network to minimize the loss function at the output based on the combination of the representations of the input.
The structure looks as follows:
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/x4cCi.png)
Similar networks have been used to learn the relations between objects ([arxiv:1702.05068](https://arxiv.org/abs/1702.05068)).
A simple example of how to learning the sample variance of a variable sized set of values is given [here](https://medium.com/@andre.holzner/learning-a-function-with-a-variable-number-of-inputs-with-pytorch-c487e35d4dba) (disclaimer: I'm the author of the linked article).
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_4: I'm curious why no one mentions **Fully Convolutional Networks** and **Spatial Pyramid Pooling**.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_5: one other big thing which gives this ability of dealing varying input sizes, which is the most important reason that they do such, is their `independence of model of sequence input and out sizes`. so there should be no layer which one of its input or out sizes is input or out sizes of your sequence, defined. like in rnn family of neural networks, which are used for varying size sequences, as they rely on dimension of each sequence item. also we can see it in transformers which are also used for varying size sequences we can this independence, as its been demonstrated in [this repo of multivariate transformers for forecasting](https://github.com/FarhangAmaji/versatileAnnModule/blob/master/models/multivariateTransformers.py)(note in this models usually its only dependent on model max input size which is needed in some embeddings, but note the network itself is independent of sequence input and output sizes).
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2016/09/25 | 712 | 2,888 | <issue_start>username_0: In my estimation we have two minds which manage to speak to each other in dialectic through a series of interrupts. Thus at any one time one of these systems is controlling master and inhabits our consciousness. The subordinate system controls context which is constantly being "primed" by our senses and our subordinate systems experience of our conscious thought process( see thinking fast and slow by Daniel Kahneman). Thus our thought process is constantly a driven one. Similarly this system works as a node in a community and not as a standalone thing.
I think what we have currently is "artificial thinking" which is abstracted a long way from what is described above. so my question is "are there any artificial intelligence systems with an internal dialectical approach and with drivers and conceived above and which develop within a community of nodes? "<issue_comment>username_1: There are a lot of systems that follow the ancient maxim: "Always two there are; no more, no less. A master and an apprentice."
In [reinforcement learning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinforcement_learning) a class of such setups is called [Actor-Critic-Method](https://webdocs.cs.ualberta.ca/%7Esutton/book/ebook/node66.html). There you have a master, whose duty it is to create feedback for the actions of the apprentice, who acts in a given environment. This would be comparable to how a human learns some physical activity, like playing table tennis. You basically let your body do its thing, but your consciousness evaluates how good the result is.
The setup of [AlphaGo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo) might be even closer to [Kahnemann's system 1 and system 2](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow). AlphaGo has two neural networks which provide actions and evaluations (system 1, fast, intuitive, etc.) and the Monte Carlo tree search, which uses these actions and evaluations to prune a search tree and make a decision (system 2, deliberate, logical).
In the end, this kind of structure will pop up again and again because it is often necessary to do some kind of classification or preprocessing on the raw data before *your* algorithm can be run on it. You could frame the whole history of [gofai](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_artificial_intelligence) as the story of how scientists thought system 1 should be easy and system 2 should be doable in a few decades, where the reality is that we have no idea how difficult system 2 is because it turned out that system 1 is extremely difficult.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: You could argue that some [Multi-Agent System](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-agent_system) approaches do, and some systems based on the [blackboard architecture](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard_system) could conceivably fit this regime as well.
Upvotes: 1 |
2016/09/27 | 1,786 | 7,529 | <issue_start>username_0: In the recent PC game *[The Turing Test](http://www.theturingtestgame.com/)*, the AI ("TOM") needs help from Ava to get through some puzzle rooms. TOM says he is unable to solve the puzzles because he is not allowed to "[think laterally](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateral_thinking)." Specifically, he says he would not have thought to throw a box through a window to solve the first room. His creators, the story goes, turned that capability off because such thinking could produce "ethically suboptimal" solutions, like chopping off an arm to leave on a pressure plate.
Would all creative puzzle-solving abilities need to be removed from an AI to keep its results reasonable, or could we get some benefits of lateral thinking without losing an arm?<issue_comment>username_1: **No**, with a *but*. We can have creative yet ethical problem-solving if the system has a complete system of ethics, but otherwise creativity will be unsafe by default.
One can classify AI decision-making approaches into two types: interpolative thinkers, and extrapolative thinkers.
Interpolative thinkers learn to classify and mimic whatever they're learning from, and don't try to give reasonable results outside of their training domain. You can think of them as interpolating between training examples, and benefitting from all of the mathematical guarantees and provisos as other statistical techniques.
Extrapolative thinkers learn to manipulate underlying principles, which allows them to combine those principles in previously unconsidered ways. The relevant field for intuition here is [numerical optimization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_optimization), of which the simplest and most famous example is [linear programming](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_programming), rather than the statistical fields that birthed machine learning. You can think of them as extrapolating beyond training examples (indeed, many of them don't even require training examples, or use those examples to infer underlying principles).
The promise of extrapolative thinkers is that they can come up with these 'lateral' solutions much more quickly than people would be able to. The problem with these extrapolative thinkers is that they only use the spoken principles, not any unspoken ones that might seem too obvious to mention.
An attribute of solutions to optimization problems is that the feature vector is often 'extreme' in some way. In linear programming, at least one vertex of the feasible solution space will be optimal, and so simple solution methods find an optimal vertex (which is almost infeasible by nature of being a vertex).
As another example, the minimum-fuel solution for moving a spacecraft from one position to another is called '[bang-bang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bang%E2%80%93bang_control),' where you accelerate the craft as quickly as possible at the beginning and end of the trajectory, coasting at maximum speed in between.
While a virtue when the system is correctly understood (bang-bang *is* optimal for many cases), this is catastrophic when the system is incorrectly understood. My favorite example here is [Dantzig's diet problem](https://resources.mpi-inf.mpg.de/departments/d1/teaching/ws14/Ideen-der-Informatik/Dantzig-Diet.pdf) (discussion starts on page 5 of the pdf), where he tries to optimize his diet using math. Under his first constraint set, he's supposed to drink 500 gallons of vinegar a day. Under his second, 200 bouillon cubes. Under his third, two pounds of bran. The considerations that make those obviously bad ideas aren't baked into the system, and so the system innocently suggests them.
If you can completely encode the knowledge and values that a person uses to judge these plans into the AI, then extrapolative systems are as safe as that person. They'll be able to consider and reject the wrong sort of extreme plans, and leave you with the right sort of extreme plans.
But if you can't, then it does make sense to not build an extrapolative decision-maker, and instead build an interpolative one. That is, instead of asking itself "how do I best accomplish goal X?" it's asking itself "what would a person do in this situation?". The latter might be much worse at accomplishing goal X, but it has much less of the tail risk of sacrificing other goals to accomplish X.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: You may consider the programming as an ethical part of the design as well. AI will act based on what has been instructed to it as ethically important or not.
It may/should even be part of the parameters that forge the process of finding solutions, which could allow for a more refine and creative solution.
We understand the basics of ethic in normal circumstances, but if we can't predict how any human will behave in an ethical conundrum we can enforce what an AI wouldn't do.
As long as we have control over the mechanism that drive an AI we sure have a responsability to inject ethical failsafes.
The problem lies in self taught AI with an ability to overrides directives.
(CF Asimov Laws.)
The way the AI is creative seems irrelevant in that case.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: A lot of this depends on the breadth of consideration. For example, what would the medium and long term effects of the lateral thinking be? The robot could sever an arm for a pressure plate but it would mean that the person no longer had an arm, a functional limitation at best, that the person might bleed out and die/be severely constrained, and that the person (and people in general) would both no longer cooperate and likely seek to eliminate the robot. People can think laterally because consider these things - ethics are really nothing more than a set of guidelines that encompass these considerations. The robot could as well, were it to be designed to consider these externalities.
If all else fails,
Asimov's Laws of Robotics: (0. A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.) 1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law
Upvotes: -1 <issue_comment>username_4: Ethics involves the relationships of *needs* between two or more parties. As <NAME> said, if the AI lacks the sufficient human context (understanding of needs), it will produce seemingly perverse ethical behavior.
And let's be honest, some *people* would cut of other people's arms and put them on pressure plates. Even the best of us will not be able to sympathize with the needs of others with 100% accuracy - at best, we're guessing. And then there are those rare situations where I actually *want* you to cut off my arm and put it on a pressure plate, perhaps to save a loved one.
If we could make a thing that could sympathize with what a human *might* need in any given arbitrary situation, then we will have created either A) an artificial *human* intelligence (AHI) (which could be more or less fallible, like a human), or B) an oracle that can reason about *all possible human needs* on much faster than human time-scales - in which case you wouldn't *need* a conscious AI, as all human needs and solutions could be pre-computed via formal specification, which is probably absurd to consider.
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2016/09/29 | 1,158 | 5,134 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm a freshman to machine learning. We all know that there are 2 kinds of problems in our life: problems that humans can solve and problems we can't solve. For problems humans can solve, we always try our best to write some algorithm and tell machine to follow it step by step, and finally the machine acts like people.
What I'm curious about are these problems humans can't solve. If humans ourselves can't sum up and get an algorithm (which means that we ourselves don't know how to solve the problem), can a machine solve the problem? That is, can the machine sum up and get an algorithm by itself based on a large amount of problem data?<issue_comment>username_1: There are problems we for which we don't have a known, optimal, deterministic algorithm. By and large we use [heuristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic) to "solve" those problems. A closely related idea is that of [satisficing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisficing) where we seek out answers that are "good enough" for immediate purposes.
Likewise, machines can also use heuristics, whether they are programmed in explicitly or, presumably, learned. Within the range of ways that a machine can use heuristics, there are [meta heuristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaheuristics) and [hyper heuristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-heuristic).
Going beyond that, there are other ways that machines an learn "algorithms" or "rules" for solving problems. One are that I'm particularly interested in is known as [rule induction](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_induction).
This is all an area of open and active research BTW... so if you're interested in exploring any of these approaches, you'll probably find a lot of ground to cover.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: New guy here, please go easy on me as this answer will come from personal experience, and will probably be a tad philosophical.
Every algorithm I've designed was built to systematically tackle and solve specific problems in specific situations, each with an end goal in mind. Think of algorithms as solutions to a problem. In my career as a programmer, this rule has always stuck with me (it came from my favorite Computer Sciences professor): "If there is **no solution**, then there is **no algorithm**. If there is **no algorithm**, **no machine can solve the problem**."
Can machines generate their own algorithms? Most likely. But not to the point that it will exceed us (and by exceed, I don't mean just speed). AIs can never solve problems using methods that humans will never be able to come up with, because we programmed AIs to solve problems *just like us humans do*.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: All intelligence, both human and machine, is mechanistic. Thoughts don't appear out of the blue; they're generated through specific processes.
This means that if a machine generates an algorithm to solve a problem, even if the object-level algorithm wasn't generated by humans, the meta-level algorithm by which it generated the object-level algorithm must have come from *somewhere*, and that somewhere is probably its original creators. (Even if they didn't program the meta-level algorithm, they probably programmed the meta-meta-level algorithm that programmed the meta-level algorithm, and so on.)
How you think about these distinctions depends on how you think about machine learning, but typically they're fairly small. For example, when we train a neural network to classify images, we aren't telling it what pixels to focus on or how to combine them, which is the object-level algorithm that it eventually generates. But we are telling it how to construct that object-level algorithm from training data, what I'm calling the 'meta-level' algorithm.
One of the open problems is how to build the meta-meta-level; that is, an algorithm that will be able to look at a dataset and determine which models to train, and then which model to finally use. This will, ideally, include enough understanding of those meta-level models to construct new ones as needed, but even if it doesn't will reflect a major step forward in the usability of ML.
Upvotes: 1 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_4: I'd like to offer also a slightly different view on the machine cannot better its master. Consider the very simple case of content classifiers. It's already to the point where for some areas classification and prediction can be performed way better than a human. And while a human may have designed the "algorithm", the algorithm was likely a recurrent neutral network or other form of ML that could well have self trained. In these cases we don't actually understand or need to understand the individual weights in the net, as we would need to have traditionally understood the imperative programming constructs we used to write. It just works.
So if we get to where we develop a meta-algorithm for classifying problems and building more optimal deep learning solutions than we would by hand, but I think that would pretty much take us out of the picture for quite a lot of problem spaces. Thoughts?
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2016/09/29 | 1,708 | 7,142 | <issue_start>username_0: This is a question about a nomenclature - we already have the algorithm/solution, but we're not sure whether it qualifies as utilizing heuristics or not.
---
feel free to skip the problem explanation:
>
> A friend is writing a path-finding algorithm - an autopilot for an
> (off-road) vehicle in a computer game. This is a pretty classic
> problem - he finds a viable, not necessarily optimal but "good enough"
> route using the A\* algorithm, by taking the terrain layout and vehicle
> capabilities into account, and modifying a direct (straight) line path
> to account for these. The whole map is known a'priori and invariant,
> though the start and destination are arbitrary (user-chosen) and the
> path is not guaranteed to exist at all.
>
>
> This cookie-cutter approach comes with a twist: limited storage space.
> We can afford some more volatile memory on start, but we should free
> most of it once the route has been found. The travel may take days -
> of real time too, so the path must be saved to disk, and the space in
> the save file for custom data like this is severely limited. Too
> limited to save all the waypoints - even after culling trivial
> solution waypoints ('continue straight ahead'), and by a rather large
> margin, order of 20% the size of our data set.
>
>
> A solution we came up with is to calculate the route once on start,
> then 'forget' all the trivial and 90% of the non-trivial waypoints.
> This both serves as a proof that a solution exists, and provides a set
> of points reaching which, in sequence, guarantees the route will take
> us to the destination.
>
>
> Once the vehicle reaches a waypoint, the route to the next one is
> calculated again, from scratch. It's known to exist and be correct
> (because we did it once, and it was correct), it doesn't put too much
> strain on the CPU and the memory (it's only about 10% the total route
> length) and it doesn't need to go into permanent storage (restarting
> from any point along the path is just a subset of the solution
> connecting two saved waypoints).
>
>
>
---
Now for the actual question:
The pathfinding algorithm follows a sparse set of waypoints which by themselves are not nearly sufficient as a route, but allow for easy, efficient calculation of the actual route, simultaneously guarantying its existence; they are a subset of the full solution.
Is this a heuristic approach?
(as I understand, normally, heuristics don't guarantee existence of a solution, and merely suggest more likely candidates. In this case, the 'hints' are taken straight out of an actual working solution, thus my doubts.)<issue_comment>username_1: There are problems we for which we don't have a known, optimal, deterministic algorithm. By and large we use [heuristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic) to "solve" those problems. A closely related idea is that of [satisficing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisficing) where we seek out answers that are "good enough" for immediate purposes.
Likewise, machines can also use heuristics, whether they are programmed in explicitly or, presumably, learned. Within the range of ways that a machine can use heuristics, there are [meta heuristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaheuristics) and [hyper heuristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyper-heuristic).
Going beyond that, there are other ways that machines an learn "algorithms" or "rules" for solving problems. One are that I'm particularly interested in is known as [rule induction](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_induction).
This is all an area of open and active research BTW... so if you're interested in exploring any of these approaches, you'll probably find a lot of ground to cover.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: New guy here, please go easy on me as this answer will come from personal experience, and will probably be a tad philosophical.
Every algorithm I've designed was built to systematically tackle and solve specific problems in specific situations, each with an end goal in mind. Think of algorithms as solutions to a problem. In my career as a programmer, this rule has always stuck with me (it came from my favorite Computer Sciences professor): "If there is **no solution**, then there is **no algorithm**. If there is **no algorithm**, **no machine can solve the problem**."
Can machines generate their own algorithms? Most likely. But not to the point that it will exceed us (and by exceed, I don't mean just speed). AIs can never solve problems using methods that humans will never be able to come up with, because we programmed AIs to solve problems *just like us humans do*.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: All intelligence, both human and machine, is mechanistic. Thoughts don't appear out of the blue; they're generated through specific processes.
This means that if a machine generates an algorithm to solve a problem, even if the object-level algorithm wasn't generated by humans, the meta-level algorithm by which it generated the object-level algorithm must have come from *somewhere*, and that somewhere is probably its original creators. (Even if they didn't program the meta-level algorithm, they probably programmed the meta-meta-level algorithm that programmed the meta-level algorithm, and so on.)
How you think about these distinctions depends on how you think about machine learning, but typically they're fairly small. For example, when we train a neural network to classify images, we aren't telling it what pixels to focus on or how to combine them, which is the object-level algorithm that it eventually generates. But we are telling it how to construct that object-level algorithm from training data, what I'm calling the 'meta-level' algorithm.
One of the open problems is how to build the meta-meta-level; that is, an algorithm that will be able to look at a dataset and determine which models to train, and then which model to finally use. This will, ideally, include enough understanding of those meta-level models to construct new ones as needed, but even if it doesn't will reflect a major step forward in the usability of ML.
Upvotes: 1 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_4: I'd like to offer also a slightly different view on the machine cannot better its master. Consider the very simple case of content classifiers. It's already to the point where for some areas classification and prediction can be performed way better than a human. And while a human may have designed the "algorithm", the algorithm was likely a recurrent neutral network or other form of ML that could well have self trained. In these cases we don't actually understand or need to understand the individual weights in the net, as we would need to have traditionally understood the imperative programming constructs we used to write. It just works.
So if we get to where we develop a meta-algorithm for classifying problems and building more optimal deep learning solutions than we would by hand, but I think that would pretty much take us out of the picture for quite a lot of problem spaces. Thoughts?
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2016/09/29 | 1,198 | 4,641 | <issue_start>username_0: I understand how a neural network can be trained to recognise certain features in an image (faces, cars, ...), where the inputs are the image's pixels, and the output is a set of boolean values indicating which objects were recognised in the image and which weren't.
What I don't really get is, when using this approach to detect features and we detect a face for example, how we can go back to the original image and determine the location or boundaries of the detected face. How is this achieved? Can this be achieved based on the recognition algorithm, or is a separate algorithm used to locate the face? That seems unlikely since to find the face again, it needs to be recognised in the image, which was the reason of using a NN in the first place.<issue_comment>username_1: The approach you listed here is not really an approach, this is very very vague idea of how someone can achieve some task. You basically told we have an algorithm `f(image) = result` and there can be infinite amount of real approaches to solve this.
In majority of CNN approaches the image travels through a convolution/pooling layers which reduces the dimensions of each current layer. In the end you end up with a significantly smaller layer which goes through the softmax and gets probabilities of different classes. This type of networks does not tell you where something was found, it just tells you that something was found somewhere in your original image.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: This problem is called [object detection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_detection).
If you have a trainings set of images with boxed objects you can just train a neural network to directly predict the box. I.e. the output has the same dimension as the input and the NN learns to assign each pixel the probability of belonging to a certain object.
If you don't have such a convenient dataset you could just recursively narrow the location down by feeding parts of the image to the network until you find the smallest part that still fully activates a certain classification.
[In this paper](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/713f/73ce5c3013d9fb796c21b981dc6629af0bd5.pdf) they try a mixture of these two approaches.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: To add to @username_2's answer, the object detection problem in NN context isn't necessarily solved by using a network that produces output with the same size as the input. Actually this approach - assigning each pixel the object probability - better fits the [Instance/ Semantic Segmentation](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33947823/what-is-semantic-segmentation-compared-to-segmentation-and-scene-labeling) problem.
To briefly review the common state of the art object detectors, there are mainly two families:
1. The two-stage approach (one stage find the bounding boxes by a variant of sliding window, another stage finds the object probabilities, some of the layers might be common to both stages) - from [RCNN](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1311.2524.pdf) (propose boxes by the Selective Search algorithm, check if they contain an object by running CNN - AlexNet in this case - on each box, if a box contains an object run linear regression to tighten the box), through [Fast-RCNN](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1504.08083.pdf) (Share the computations for all the boxes, use ROI pooling to select the region that corresponds to each box), [Faster-RCNN](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.01497.pdf) (Speed up the region proposal stage by using a fully convolutional Region Proposal Network instead of the heavy Selective Search), [R-FCN](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.06409.pdf) (Share all computations for both objects and box proposals), and [Mask-RCNN](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.06870.pdf) that extends the faster-RCNN solution to semantic segmentation, but also solves better the detection problem by fitting the box coordinates+object features correspondence by using bilinear interpolation, replacing ROI pooling with ROI align.
2. The single-stage approach, such as [SSD](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1512.02325.pdf), [DSSD](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1701.06659.pdf), [YOLO](https://pjreddie.com/darknet/yolo/), [YOLO2](https://arxiv.org/abs/1612.08242) and lastly [RetinaNet with the focal loss](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.02002.pdf), that in a single shot produce both boxes and objects scores, and work much faster that the two-stage approaches.
A great summary for object recognition, detection and segmentation is published [here](https://medium.com/@nikasa1889/the-modern-history-of-object-recognition-infographic-aea18517c318) - highly recommended.
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2016/09/29 | 1,104 | 4,183 | <issue_start>username_0: If said AI can assess scenarios and decide what AI is best suited and construct new AI for new tasks. In sufficient time would the AI not have developed a suite of AIs powerful/specialized for their tasks, but versatile as a whole, much like our own brain’s architecture? What’s the constraint ?<issue_comment>username_1: The approach you listed here is not really an approach, this is very very vague idea of how someone can achieve some task. You basically told we have an algorithm `f(image) = result` and there can be infinite amount of real approaches to solve this.
In majority of CNN approaches the image travels through a convolution/pooling layers which reduces the dimensions of each current layer. In the end you end up with a significantly smaller layer which goes through the softmax and gets probabilities of different classes. This type of networks does not tell you where something was found, it just tells you that something was found somewhere in your original image.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: This problem is called [object detection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_detection).
If you have a trainings set of images with boxed objects you can just train a neural network to directly predict the box. I.e. the output has the same dimension as the input and the NN learns to assign each pixel the probability of belonging to a certain object.
If you don't have such a convenient dataset you could just recursively narrow the location down by feeding parts of the image to the network until you find the smallest part that still fully activates a certain classification.
[In this paper](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/713f/73ce5c3013d9fb796c21b981dc6629af0bd5.pdf) they try a mixture of these two approaches.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: To add to @username_2's answer, the object detection problem in NN context isn't necessarily solved by using a network that produces output with the same size as the input. Actually this approach - assigning each pixel the object probability - better fits the [Instance/ Semantic Segmentation](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33947823/what-is-semantic-segmentation-compared-to-segmentation-and-scene-labeling) problem.
To briefly review the common state of the art object detectors, there are mainly two families:
1. The two-stage approach (one stage find the bounding boxes by a variant of sliding window, another stage finds the object probabilities, some of the layers might be common to both stages) - from [RCNN](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1311.2524.pdf) (propose boxes by the Selective Search algorithm, check if they contain an object by running CNN - AlexNet in this case - on each box, if a box contains an object run linear regression to tighten the box), through [Fast-RCNN](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1504.08083.pdf) (Share the computations for all the boxes, use ROI pooling to select the region that corresponds to each box), [Faster-RCNN](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.01497.pdf) (Speed up the region proposal stage by using a fully convolutional Region Proposal Network instead of the heavy Selective Search), [R-FCN](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1605.06409.pdf) (Share all computations for both objects and box proposals), and [Mask-RCNN](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1703.06870.pdf) that extends the faster-RCNN solution to semantic segmentation, but also solves better the detection problem by fitting the box coordinates+object features correspondence by using bilinear interpolation, replacing ROI pooling with ROI align.
2. The single-stage approach, such as [SSD](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1512.02325.pdf), [DSSD](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1701.06659.pdf), [YOLO](https://pjreddie.com/darknet/yolo/), [YOLO2](https://arxiv.org/abs/1612.08242) and lastly [RetinaNet with the focal loss](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.02002.pdf), that in a single shot produce both boxes and objects scores, and work much faster that the two-stage approaches.
A great summary for object recognition, detection and segmentation is published [here](https://medium.com/@nikasa1889/the-modern-history-of-object-recognition-infographic-aea18517c318) - highly recommended.
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2016/09/30 | 3,337 | 12,521 | <issue_start>username_0: AI is progressing drastically, and imagine they tell you you're fired because a robot will take your place. What are some jobs that can never be automated?<issue_comment>username_1: If you were to completely automate a human, you'd just have another human, which defeats the purpose of the automation.
Any job that requires a "whole human," rather than just a human's hands, feet, or simple reasoning ability, will still require humans.
If I go to a shrink, one with Wikipedia-like knowledge would be great, but one that also actually knows what its like to rub its eyes in the morning would be even better. Why? Because solving *some* problems will require knowing what it is like to rub one's eyes in the morning.
If I go to a movie that was written, directed and produced by some form of automation, I may be able to suspend my disbelief and get carried away by the story, but something in me will fundamentally appreciate the movie less, if I know that the AI can produce an infinite number of these stories, completely arbitrarily. There is something about knowing that the story came from a mind that has been conditioned against the vagaries of humanity (ie, a "whole human"), that makes the story more appreciable.
If I call up a suicide hotline because I wan't someone to sympathize with me about my existential crisis, I'll want to talk to a "whole human" that can *sympathize* with my existential condition, not one that just regurgitates prior wisdom on life, heuristically matched against my problem state.
If I want to vote for a politician that can sympathize with the needs of the people, I'll want a "whole person" politician that can reflect on *all* the specifics that make life for a "whole person" hard or easy.
If I want soldiers to take the lives of humans, I want some sort of intelligence in that kill-chain that executes "whole person" analysis prior to pulling the trigger (a human).
If I want a conflict resolution specialist, capable of resolving complex cultural problems between humans, then I don't want just an AI that spits out the most likely solution based on prior solutions. I want an AI that can reason about prior solutions *and* all explicit and implicit problems between humans, in all human contexts, which requires a human or a perfect human simulacrum.
For any problem that requires consideration potentially *across* the whole spectrum of human context, we will want that solution to be generated by a "whole human" device. But if we automate the "whole human" then we haven't really outsourced the problem to automation but rather to a "whole automated human," which will, by necessity, have its own problems.
Sure, we'll probably create an artificial human intelligence (AHI) one day, but being optimized to automatically solve *any* given human problem without also *having* human problems... that's just AI snake-oil that will never exist - outside of some perverse matrix scenario, under an infinite oracle of some sort.
So, yes, there will be many jobs that still require humans - mostly human-to-human problems that require full knowledge of the human context.
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The key word here is "never". Technology is rapidly advancing, and while I can think of situations where jobs can't be killed in the short-term or even in the long-term, I can't think of a job that is 100%, totally immune to extinction. Surely they *exist*, but you can't be *sure*...anything can happen after all. As long as it's *possible*, that's what matters here. You can't prove a negative.
This whole question seems as foolhardy as predicting in the 1850s that airplanes would *never* be invented. You'd be right in assuming that airplanes would not be invented in the 1860s...or the 1870s...or even the 1880s...but eventually, airplanes would be invented.
What would be better is to provide a specific cut-off point ("will all jobs be automated by the year 2020?") that can allow us to try to extrapolate and predict based on current trends, but even that starts being difficult as you extend the cut-off point - My predictions about 2020 will be more accurate than my prediction about 2220. I think this type of question is truly unanswerable and can quickly decay to science-fiction speculation.
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Some additional comments about Doxosphoi's answer:
username_1 made some arguments for why current society might not accept the automation of all jobs (the need for the "personal touch" that only a human-like intelligence can provide), but that's no reason to assume that society will *never* accept automation. Technology can change and adapt, and humans can also change and adapt. Maybe a human might not care about a shrink who "rubs its eyes in the morning", dislike movies that are marred by that "vagaries of humanity" instead of personal customization, prefer politicians and soldiers that actually acts logically instead of acting like a falliable human, etc., etc. I mean, it's *possible*.
There's also the problem of the term "job". Technically, I am working by writing an answer on a StackExchange website, but I'm not getting paid for it, so it's not a real "job"...at best, it's just a hobby. I'm providing a valuable human touch, but since no one is giving me money, it's possible that this human touch may not be all that valuable in the first place: "never give out your labor for free, because then they'll take it for free".
Some of the techno-utopists (which I disagree with heavily) believes in a future where bots handle produce a lot of industrial goods and services, generating a lot of revenue that is then redistributed to the general population via some "Basic Income" scheme. This allows humans to do what they really want instead...such as hobbies? And what if the hobbies of the future are the "jobs" of today: shrinks, movie directors, politicians, soldiers, etc., etc. Instead of working for a paycheck, you're working in these jobs on a volunteer basis.
Obviously, no automation is being necessary to eliminate these hobbyists (no matter how good a bot is, *free labor* will always prevail), but they're not really jobs, are they? The bot is the one that is producing real value, and subsidizing the hobbies of all these other people. The idea of a "job" itself could be in jeopardy.
I don't think this scenario is likely either (in fact, I'd probably think it's just AI snake oil that will never actually happen). But it's *possible* and that's why I can't dismiss it outright. It could happen, just that I don't think it will.
And finally, the question is asking about whether a job can be automated, not *whether it's a good idea* to have it be automated, which is a completely different question. It's possible that we can build machines that can automate everything, and choose as a society not to use them for a variety of different reasons (such as the reasons that username_1 mentioned).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: The Oxford study from 2013 in [The future of employment](http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf) paper assess this and estimated the probability of computerisation for 702 detailed occupations using a Gaussian process classifier (using job data from the UK partially merged with data from US), and based on these estimates they identified three areas of computerisation bottleneck areas and nine skills that people are still needed for each profession, this includes:
* Perception and Manipulation.
+ Finger dexterity.
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> the fingers of one or both hands to grasp, manipulate, or
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* Creative Intelligence.
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> produce, and perform works of music, dance, visual arts,
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+ Social perceptiveness.
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Source: [The future of employment: how susceptible are jobs to computerisation](http://web.archive.org/web/20161001101136/http://www.oxfordmartin.ox.ac.uk/downloads/academic/The_Future_of_Employment.pdf): Table 1.
What this study is basically saying, around 50% of all jobs will be replaced by robots in the next 20 years.
Based on the above study, the BBC assembled a handy guide that calculates which jobs are likely to be automated within the next two decades:
* [Will a robot take your job?](http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-34066941)
See also: [replacedbyrobot.info](http://www.replacedbyrobot.info/) website.
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Related:
* [When robots can do all manual labor and service jobs, what will the majority human population do?](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/4mikie/when_robots_can_do_all_manual_labor_and_service/)
* [TED: The jobs we'll lose to machines — and the ones we won't (by <NAME>)](https://www.ted.com/talks/anthony_goldbloom_the_jobs_we_ll_lose_to_machines_and_the_ones_we_won_t)
* [Labore Ad Infinitum: AI & Automation vs Timeless Tasks](https://medium.com/@tylerehc/labore-ad-infinitum-ai-automation-vs-timeless-tasks-ced2216f2ab7)
Which suggests: Military/Peacekeeper, Athletes, Therapist, Musical Performer, Actors and Dancer, Visual Artists, Religious/Spiritual Leaders, The World’s Oldest Profession, Virtual Goods, Politicians, Judges, Parenting.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_4: Probably the only secure jobs are those where the audience enjoys watching live human craftsmanship take place in real time right before their eyes, like acting or standup comedy or musical virtuosity or playing a sport. Watching a robot do the same thing would be far less personally engaging since there's no human skill or artistry to appreciate or identify with, escpecially when the pressure is on or when human interpersonal dynamics are involved.
For example, why would anyone watch robots play poker? Or dance? Or do standup comedy about how hard it is to be [ethnic group or gender goes here]?
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_5: Truthfully, we don't know exactly how good AI can become, so we don't *really* know the answer to this question. But I see no reason - in principle - that AI can't become just as "intelligent" as a human, and correspondingly, I see few - if any - jobs that can't be automated.
That said, I suspect that a lot of human thought / behavior / intelligence is wrapped up in how we are embodied and how we experience the world as two legged, upright walking, biological machines with eyes, ears, noses, etc. So I suspect that AI might achieve parity with overall human intelligence, but may not also become capable of behaving like a human, or understanding certain things where the understanding is developed experientially. That may leave an opening for some jobs that require a very specific kind of "humanity", but that's all just speculation.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_6: Anything that can be broken into set of instructions will be automated, and contained in a narrow trajectory. But we will have the ability to deep between those different skills.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/RzpUq.png)
Wrote more about this thinking [here](http://everything-will-happen.com/ai/mind/2017/04/03/an-argument-against-agi.html)
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2016/10/01 | 1,057 | 4,444 | <issue_start>username_0: For years, I have been dealing with (and teaching) Knowledge Representation and Knowledge Representation languages. I just discovered that in another community (Information Systems and the such) there is something called the "DIKW pyramid" where they add another step after knowledge, namely wisdom.
They define data as being simply symbols, information as being the answer to who/what/when/where?, knowledge as being the answer to how?, and wisdom as being the answer to why?.
My question is: has anyone done the connection between what AI calls data/information/knowledge and these notions from Information Systems? In particular, how would "wisdom" be defined in AI? And since we have KR languages, how would we represent "wisdom" as they define it?
Any references would be welcome.<issue_comment>username_1: I haven't done the connection - didn't know about the pyramid. I'm not sure it translates well into AI though.
It seems they're separating information from knowledge by splitting how from what. What is a superset of how, as far as I'm concerned. It's also a superset of why.
But from an evolutionary perspective, knowledge representation starts with why. Prior to a reason for knowledge representation, there is no knowledge representation. The 'what' existed, but it was not represented until autopoiesis created goal directed, why-oriented behaviors that began storing the what as knowledge.
What is a superset of why, just as ontology is a superset of teleology. However, all *represented* ontology was acquired through teleological (end-directed) action.
So I disagree with the notion that wisdom, as a why thing, is at the tip of the pyramid. It all started with goal directed behavior and that has been the source of all subsequent information growth.
So what is wisdom? I think it is too much of a folk term to warrant a technical definition. If I had to just take a swing at a definition, though, I'd probably vote for wisdom being knowledge of the ontological basis of one's own teleological knowledge - essentially objectifying one's subjective interpretations - knowing the true what and how of the why, to whatever extent is possible.
I don't have many *specific* references on this subject, but I thought Ter<NAME>'s [Incomplete Nature: How Mind Emerged from Matter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incomplete_Nature) was a good primer on teleology.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: As with another answer, I am also skeptical of the distinctions made in the DIKW pyramid.
Nonetheless, a very popular machine learning approach for answering 'Why?' questions is the application of Bayesian reasoning: given a causal data model, reverse inference can be used to find the probability distribution of events which lead to a given outcome.
It could be argued that defining 'cause' in terms of distributions rather than specific concrete mechanisms is a rather limited notion of 'Why?'.
However, it may be that there are some forms of causality that we don't know how to represent, specifically 'first-hand experience'. Indeed, common usage of the term 'wisdom' generally refers to first-hand experience, rather than information gained from some other source.
The idea is that knowledge can be expressed declaratively, whereas wisdom must be derived from experience.
For an AI represented as a computer program, the distinction between declarative and first-hand experience might appear irrelevant, since in principle any experience can be encoded and made available without the program having to 'experience' it first-hand.
However, the following humorous definition of `wisdom' might perhaps shed some light on a distinction that's pertinent to AI research:
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This notion of 'Wisdom' could be said to require [qualia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia). It is the subject of much debate whether qualia exist and/or are necessary for consciousness - see for example the thought experiment of ['The Black and White Room'](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_argument).
So the notion is that there is a distinction between having a Bayesian network representation of wisdom that says: "It is 99.7% likely that putting a tomato in custard is undesirable" and the first-hand experience to the effect that it tastes odd with custard.
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2016/10/03 | 1,065 | 4,723 | <issue_start>username_0: Here is one of the most serious questions, about the artificial intelligence.
How will the machine know the difference between right and wrong, what is good and bad, what is respect, dignity, faith and empathy.
A machine can recognize what is correct and incorrect, what is right and what is wrong, depend on how it is originally designed.
It will follow the ethics of its creator, the man who originally designed it
But how to teach a computer something we don't have the right answer.
People are selfish, jealous, self confident. We are not able to understand each other sorrows, pains beliefs. We don't understand different religions, different traditions or beliefs.
Creating an AI might be breakthrough for one nation, or one race, or one ethnic or religious group, but it can be against others.
Who will learn the machine a humanity? :)<issue_comment>username_1: Right and wrong only exist relative to some goal or purpose.
To make a machine do more right than wrong, relative to human goals, one should minimize the surface area of the machine's purpose. Doing that minimizes the intrinsic behavior of the AI, which enables us to reason about the right and wrong behaviors of the AI, relative to human purposes.
Horses are quite general over the domains of their purposes, but are still predictable enough for humans to control and benefit from. As such, we will be able to produce machines (conscious or unconscious) that are highly general over particular domains, while still being predictable enough to be useful to humans.
The most efficient machines for most tasks, though, will not *need* consciousness, nor even the needs that cause survivalistic, adversarial and self-preserving behaviors in eukaryotic cells. Because most of our solutions won't *need* those purposes to optimize over our problems, we can allow them to be much more predictable.
We will be able to create predictable, efficient AIs over large domains that are able to produce predictable, efficient AIs over more specific domains. We'll be able to reason about the behavioral guarantees and failure modes of those narrow domains.
In the event that we one day desire to build something as unpredictable as a human, like we do when having babies, then we'll probably do that with the similar intentions and care that we use to bring an actual baby into the world. There is simply no purpose in creating a thing more unpredictable than you unless you're gambling on this thing *succeeding* you in capability - which sounds exactly like having babies.
After that, the best we can do is give it our *theories* about why we think we should act one way or another.
Now, theoretically, some extremely powerful AI could potentially construct a human-like simulacrum that, in many common situations, seems to act like a human, but that in fact has had all of it's behaviors formally specified a priori, via some developmental simulation, such that we *know for a fact* that all such behaviors produce no intentional malice or harm. However, if we can formally specify all such behaviors, we wouldn't be using this thing to solve any novel problems, like curing cancer, as the formal specification for curing cancer would already have been pre-computed. If you can formally specify the behaviors of a thing that can discover something new, you can just compute the solution via the specification, without instantiating the behaviors at all!
Once AI has reached a certain level of capability, it won't need to generate consciousnesses to derive optimal solutions. And at that point, the only purpose for an artificial human to exist will be, like us, for its own sake.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I'd like to answer this in detail, but it requires some fairly complicated theory that you don't have access to. Essentially this is related to the Abstraction Valuation Paradox. Don't bother trying to look that up. It's part of several years of research that hasn't been published yet. The research has shown that there is no solution to this paradox using computational or AI theory. So, no AI, no matter how advanced, can have an understanding of ethics. The best you can do is program in a bunch of rules of thumb. This gives your AI a bureaucratic reaction to conditions but no flexibility and no way to resolve problems outside of its rule space. In other words if it runs into an exception or unforeseen circumstances, it could stall or could guess at a decision.
The research on human-like ability to understand and reason is quite different from the study of AI. This research suggests that you would need consciousness for an understanding of ethics.
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2016/10/04 | 774 | 2,827 | <issue_start>username_0: [From this SE question](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/2067/will-ai-be-able-to-adapt):
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This is my attempt at interpreting that question.
Evolutionary algorithms are useful for solving optimization problems...by measuring the "fitness" of various probable solutions and then of an algorithm through the process of natural selection.
Suppose, the "fitness calculation"/"environment" is changed in mid-training (as could easily happen in real-life scenarios where people may desire different solutions at different times). Would evolutionary algorithms be able to respond effectively to this change?<issue_comment>username_1: The core question to whether or not an AI is adaptable or not is whether or not it supports [online learning](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_machine_learning). That doesn't mean using the Internet to learn things; that means continuing to accept training data during the functioning of the system.
This is (mostly) independent of the underlying architecture; in evolutionary approaches one can continue to breed generations with a shifting fitness function or with neural networks one can continue to backpropagate errors, and so on with other approaches.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: I think <NAME>' answer is the strictly correct one. But I also think this question may be hinting at a larger question in general. What is the minimal algorithmic complexity required for a machine of one particular set of functions to mutate into some other machine of some other particular set of functions?
The answer is: potentially *infinite* algorithmic complexity. Without knowing a priori how many steps it will take to mutate into a thing that can solve some black-box problem, there is no way to determine if and when the AI will be able to mutate into that thing.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: My answer is with respect to game theory perspective, **Replicator Dynamics** is one of core concept of evolutionary game theory algorithm which means rate of adaptation with respect to rate of change in population. Whenever there is change in the system replicator dynamics will help to adapt with the change with respect to utility function.
[Replicator Dynamics Equation](https://chart.googleapis.com/chart?cht=tx&chl=%5Cfrac%7B%5Cpartial%20x%5Cleft%20(%20t%20%5Cright%20)%7D%7B%5Cpartial%20t%7D%20%3D%20x%0A%0A%5Cleft%20(%20%20t%5Cright%20)%5Cbegin%7Bbmatrix%7D%0AU_%7BA%7D%5Cleft%20(%20t%20%5Cright%20)%20-%20%5Cdot%7BU%5Cleft%20(%20t%20%5Cright%20)%7D%0A%5Cend%7Bbmatrix%7D%0A%0A)
For Better Understanding go through this link: [Evolutionary Algorithm Pdf](https://www.mimuw.edu.pl/~miekisz/cime.pdf)
Hope this will be helpful.
Upvotes: 1 |
2016/10/06 | 1,154 | 4,173 | <issue_start>username_0: In a classic example of a genetic algorithm, you would have a population and a certain amount of simulation time to evaluate it and breeding. Then proceed to the next generation.
Is it possible, during the simulation process, to have an isolated and small part of the population and keep it evolving in their own little island for some time while the rest of the population continues to evolve normally?
After that, they could be reunited with the rest of the population and the end of the simulation would go through. After that, breed the population and continue.
This is a super important part of natural evolution and probably some know if it actually works with genetic programming?<issue_comment>username_1: There have been extensive studies within *evolutionary computation* in the area of [*island models*](http://cs.gmu.edu/%7Eeclab/papers/skolicki05analysis.pdf) and [*niching*](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.30.8270&rep=rep1&type=pdf) for doing exactly this.
The advantages of this approach include greater population diversity (which is particularly useful when the problem is multiobjective) and the potential for concurrent execution of each separate population.
See also the answers to the question [What is the niching scheme?](https://stackoverflow.com/q/13775810/3924118).
With specific reference to *genetic programming*, [here](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0743731506001067) is a recent paper that uses a parallel island model.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: The island model and niching mentioned by username_1 are well known ways to isolate populations. However, the populations are not really isolated as individuals migrate from one population to the other. In these cases depending on the sampling strategy used to sample parents for crossover migrating individuals may dominate a population causing rapid convergence.
[Co-evolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coevolution) is a truly isolated population approach first introduced by Reed et al. in 1967. Two kinds of co-evolution exist namely co-operative co-evolution and competitive co-evolution. While hybrid models exist co-evolved islands such as [here](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275275723_Competitive_Two-Island_Cooperative_Co-evolution_for_Training_Feedforward_Neural_Networks_for_Pattern_Classification_Problems) and [here](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e8c3/2c1244cb04708d5c10c1d4ed3cd30fb2264a.pdf), generally co-evolution is isolated and do not migrate individuals.
Co-operative co-evolution evolves two or more populations that work together to solve a problem, and competitive co-evolution compete where a gain in one population is a loss for another.
Generally the fitness function is altered from explicit to implicit and various techniques are used to do this.
For more information
* [Review of landmark articles in co-evolution](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.05082.pdf)
* [Rules of engagement](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e08e/b39ac69e7342c88cd01238665098c8ca613c.pdf)
* [Co-evolutionary principles](https://www.cs.tufts.edu/comp/150GA/handouts/nchb-main.pdf)
* [New methods for
competitive co-evolution](http://www.sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~sklar/teaching/f05/alife/papers/rosin-96coev.pdf)
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: [Neuroevolution of Augmented Topologies (NEAT)](http://nn.cs.utexas.edu/downloads/papers/stanley.ec02.pdf) and algorithm developed by <NAME>, does this by partitioning populations into species. This is done by storing innovation numbers for each gene (node/connection). When a never before used structure is added through mutation the innovation number is incremented, by doing this you can calculate a historical compatibility distance between any two genomes by comparing innovation numbers. This is done because adding a new structure may often times initially hurt a genomes fitness but may actually turn out to be valuable after some optimization. By using this structurally focused speciation, new structures are protected as the elitism is handled in individual species not the whole population.
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2016/10/06 | 1,055 | 3,661 | <issue_start>username_0: Obviously this is hypothetical, but is true? I know "perfect fitness function" is a bit hand-wavy, but I mean it as we have a perfect way to measure the completion of any problem.<issue_comment>username_1: There have been extensive studies within *evolutionary computation* in the area of [*island models*](http://cs.gmu.edu/%7Eeclab/papers/skolicki05analysis.pdf) and [*niching*](http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.30.8270&rep=rep1&type=pdf) for doing exactly this.
The advantages of this approach include greater population diversity (which is particularly useful when the problem is multiobjective) and the potential for concurrent execution of each separate population.
See also the answers to the question [What is the niching scheme?](https://stackoverflow.com/q/13775810/3924118).
With specific reference to *genetic programming*, [here](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0743731506001067) is a recent paper that uses a parallel island model.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: The island model and niching mentioned by username_1 are well known ways to isolate populations. However, the populations are not really isolated as individuals migrate from one population to the other. In these cases depending on the sampling strategy used to sample parents for crossover migrating individuals may dominate a population causing rapid convergence.
[Co-evolution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coevolution) is a truly isolated population approach first introduced by Reed et al. in 1967. Two kinds of co-evolution exist namely co-operative co-evolution and competitive co-evolution. While hybrid models exist co-evolved islands such as [here](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275275723_Competitive_Two-Island_Cooperative_Co-evolution_for_Training_Feedforward_Neural_Networks_for_Pattern_Classification_Problems) and [here](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e8c3/2c1244cb04708d5c10c1d4ed3cd30fb2264a.pdf), generally co-evolution is isolated and do not migrate individuals.
Co-operative co-evolution evolves two or more populations that work together to solve a problem, and competitive co-evolution compete where a gain in one population is a loss for another.
Generally the fitness function is altered from explicit to implicit and various techniques are used to do this.
For more information
* [Review of landmark articles in co-evolution](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.05082.pdf)
* [Rules of engagement](https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/e08e/b39ac69e7342c88cd01238665098c8ca613c.pdf)
* [Co-evolutionary principles](https://www.cs.tufts.edu/comp/150GA/handouts/nchb-main.pdf)
* [New methods for
competitive co-evolution](http://www.sci.brooklyn.cuny.edu/~sklar/teaching/f05/alife/papers/rosin-96coev.pdf)
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: [Neuroevolution of Augmented Topologies (NEAT)](http://nn.cs.utexas.edu/downloads/papers/stanley.ec02.pdf) and algorithm developed by <NAME>, does this by partitioning populations into species. This is done by storing innovation numbers for each gene (node/connection). When a never before used structure is added through mutation the innovation number is incremented, by doing this you can calculate a historical compatibility distance between any two genomes by comparing innovation numbers. This is done because adding a new structure may often times initially hurt a genomes fitness but may actually turn out to be valuable after some optimization. By using this structurally focused speciation, new structures are protected as the elitism is handled in individual species not the whole population.
Upvotes: 0 |
2016/10/07 | 1,268 | 5,368 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm curious about Artificial Intelligence. In my regular job, I develop standard applications, like websites with basic functionalities, like user subscription, file upload, or forms saved in a database.
I mainly know of AI being used in games or robotics fields. But can it be useful in "standard" application development (e.g., web development)?<issue_comment>username_1: Yes, but probably only to a limited degree in the near term.
Where people draw the boundaries around 'artificial intelligence' is fuzzy, but if one takes the broad view, where it incorporates any sort of coding of explicitly cognitive functions, then many routine economic tasks can benefit from artificial intelligence. Many search engines, for example, can be seen as offering artificial intelligence applications as a service.
For more 'standard' applications, most near-team applications of AI have to deal with fraud detection and prevention. If you track a user's cursor moving across the screen, for example, you can build a model that differentiates between humans and bots, and treat the two separately. See [this article](https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/12/05/i-am-not-a-robot-google-swaps-text-captchas-for-quivery-mouse-clicks/) for an example.
In the longer term, of course, a program that could write programs could write these sort of applications like any other.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Adaptive/predictive features are useful in at least some everyday applications. Take text messaging, for instance. All smartphone SMS apps that I know of keep track of the words you use in close proximity and use that information to predict the next word in a message you're typing. (Some are smarter than others. [Relevant XKCD.](https://xkcd.com/1068/)) It can be used to personalize automatic spelling correction as well.
A potential application interesting to me personally is tile-based level editors, like for classic DOS games. I've been [working on a program](https://fleexlab.blogspot.com/search/label/markeen) that gathers the probabilities of each tile being close to every other tile and uses that information to construct random new levels. It hasn't produced anything playable yet, but I think it has the potential to assist human level builders by e.g. automatically filling in the missing tile that fits in a newly placed structure, as opposed to requiring the human to go find the right one in the palette.
In general, AI could be applied *very* usefully into figuring out what the user might want to do next and expediting the process of implementing the correct guess while staying out of the way if the user is intentionally doing something unexpected.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: I believe AI is rarely used in mainstream apps, but it could be, and I think slowly will be.
If the information an app's AI must learn arises within the app, from user interaction or error, it'd be smart if the program could log that kind of information and then look for patterns in the logs. It could profile users to see ehat tasks are done most often, how many steps are needed. Then when it recognizes that task recurring, it could ask the user if they wanted it to execute a macro that did the following [then it presents then with a list of the steps, allowing them to edit as needed]. Then it executes the 'macro' that it learned from observing the user.
Another use of AI is error detection, not only in the software, but in user error when the software was used inefficiently, redundantly, or improperly. If the software were designed such that it was given a set of models of user tasks (like AI plans), it could observe users in the way they achieve known tasks, and offer suggestions or ask for confirmation that imminent unusual outcomes are intended.
And of course, AI could be used extensively in user interface design, on devices, web sites, or apps. Some of this, like voice recognition, is entering the mainstream of daily use just now. As conversations with apps that can add their own data and models of tasks/concepts/domains develop further, the need for AI *inside* the app will only grow.
There are a *ton* of ways that AI could be used in apps. A few of these have started to arise in mobile devices and their apps, usually in fusion of user mobility with external web-based databases (e.g. GPS and maps), but IMO it's been slow.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: One critical part of AI is machine learning (ML). The common definition of ML by Mitchell is
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If this type of program is useful in an "everyday application" depends on the application. Here are some examples which would not be possible without ML:
* Spam detection (e.g. e-mails, forums)
* Fraud detection (e.g. credit cards)
* Image recognition (e.g. if you want to automatically filter NSFW content, automatic adding of tags / making images searchable e.g. for Google Image search)
* Video analysis (filtering copyrighted work e.g. on YouTube)
* Speech recognition (e.g. hotlines, automatic caption generation)
* Autocompletion (probably one of the simplest things you can do with data)
Upvotes: 1 |
2016/10/09 | 1,217 | 5,135 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm trying to gain some intuition beyond definitions, in any possible dimension. I'd appreciate references to read.<issue_comment>username_1: Yes, but probably only to a limited degree in the near term.
Where people draw the boundaries around 'artificial intelligence' is fuzzy, but if one takes the broad view, where it incorporates any sort of coding of explicitly cognitive functions, then many routine economic tasks can benefit from artificial intelligence. Many search engines, for example, can be seen as offering artificial intelligence applications as a service.
For more 'standard' applications, most near-team applications of AI have to deal with fraud detection and prevention. If you track a user's cursor moving across the screen, for example, you can build a model that differentiates between humans and bots, and treat the two separately. See [this article](https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/12/05/i-am-not-a-robot-google-swaps-text-captchas-for-quivery-mouse-clicks/) for an example.
In the longer term, of course, a program that could write programs could write these sort of applications like any other.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Adaptive/predictive features are useful in at least some everyday applications. Take text messaging, for instance. All smartphone SMS apps that I know of keep track of the words you use in close proximity and use that information to predict the next word in a message you're typing. (Some are smarter than others. [Relevant XKCD.](https://xkcd.com/1068/)) It can be used to personalize automatic spelling correction as well.
A potential application interesting to me personally is tile-based level editors, like for classic DOS games. I've been [working on a program](https://fleexlab.blogspot.com/search/label/markeen) that gathers the probabilities of each tile being close to every other tile and uses that information to construct random new levels. It hasn't produced anything playable yet, but I think it has the potential to assist human level builders by e.g. automatically filling in the missing tile that fits in a newly placed structure, as opposed to requiring the human to go find the right one in the palette.
In general, AI could be applied *very* usefully into figuring out what the user might want to do next and expediting the process of implementing the correct guess while staying out of the way if the user is intentionally doing something unexpected.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: I believe AI is rarely used in mainstream apps, but it could be, and I think slowly will be.
If the information an app's AI must learn arises within the app, from user interaction or error, it'd be smart if the program could log that kind of information and then look for patterns in the logs. It could profile users to see ehat tasks are done most often, how many steps are needed. Then when it recognizes that task recurring, it could ask the user if they wanted it to execute a macro that did the following [then it presents then with a list of the steps, allowing them to edit as needed]. Then it executes the 'macro' that it learned from observing the user.
Another use of AI is error detection, not only in the software, but in user error when the software was used inefficiently, redundantly, or improperly. If the software were designed such that it was given a set of models of user tasks (like AI plans), it could observe users in the way they achieve known tasks, and offer suggestions or ask for confirmation that imminent unusual outcomes are intended.
And of course, AI could be used extensively in user interface design, on devices, web sites, or apps. Some of this, like voice recognition, is entering the mainstream of daily use just now. As conversations with apps that can add their own data and models of tasks/concepts/domains develop further, the need for AI *inside* the app will only grow.
There are a *ton* of ways that AI could be used in apps. A few of these have started to arise in mobile devices and their apps, usually in fusion of user mobility with external web-based databases (e.g. GPS and maps), but IMO it's been slow.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: One critical part of AI is machine learning (ML). The common definition of ML by Mitchell is
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> A computer program is said to learn from experience E with respect to some class of tasks T and performance measure P if its performance at tasks in T, as measured by P, improves with experience E.
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If this type of program is useful in an "everyday application" depends on the application. Here are some examples which would not be possible without ML:
* Spam detection (e.g. e-mails, forums)
* Fraud detection (e.g. credit cards)
* Image recognition (e.g. if you want to automatically filter NSFW content, automatic adding of tags / making images searchable e.g. for Google Image search)
* Video analysis (filtering copyrighted work e.g. on YouTube)
* Speech recognition (e.g. hotlines, automatic caption generation)
* Autocompletion (probably one of the simplest things you can do with data)
Upvotes: 1 |
2016/10/10 | 7,973 | 31,334 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm a bit confused about the definition of life. Can AI systems be called 'living'? Because they can do most of the things that we can. They can even communicate with one another.
They are not formed of what we call cells. But, you see, cells are just a collection of several chemical processes which is in turn non-living just like AI is formed of several lines of code.<issue_comment>username_1: Artificial intelligence by definition is the intelligence exhibited by machines. The definition of life in biological terms is the condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic matter where the distinguishing criteria are the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death. Does artificial intelligence "grow"? Indeed, I can program a machine learning program to grow with every input taken in. In the loosest sense, we can say that artificial intelligence does grow, but does it biologically? If we look at the definition for growth of a living thing, it means to undergo natural development by increasing in size and changing physically or the progress to maturity. All living organisms undergo growth. Even though at the simplest level, cells are a series of chemical processes, cells are a very complicated set of chemical processes that are still not fully understood by scientists across the world. Every cell has genetic material that can be replicated, excised, used for RNA, proteins, and that is subject to epigenetic regulation.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/nczDU.png)
Does artificial intelligence undergo the same process of cell division? No. If I wanted to, I could write a program that undergoes a simple for-loop (print i from 1 to 100), replicates itself at a certain point (i=50) to produce the same program perhaps with some variation that will execute itself, and terminates (dies) at the end of the for loop. The program, by an extremely loose definition supported by philosophy but not by biology, lives. However, in scientific terms (and the correct interpretation), artificial intelligence is not living. Artificial intelligence can be seen to be similar to viruses which are considered to be acellular and essential to life but not living. Viruses are encapsulated DNA and RNA that undergo processes of growth, reproduction, and functionality but because they lack the ability to undergo the cell division cycle, are considered non-living. At the very basis of the scientific definition of life is the cell replication cycle. Artificial intelligence and viruses are not able to undergo the cell cycle. Viruses need to infect other cells in order to reproduce but do not have their own, autonomous cycle. At the end of the day, if you can argue that viruses are alive, you can argue that artificial intelligence is alive as well. For the scientific definition of life, artificial intelligence must undergo the process of cell division and replication. Even though artificial intelligence can mimic and help sustain life, no artificial intelligence process is truly alive.
Do note I did not discuss [living systems](http://www.isss.org/primer/asem14ep.html) in my answer.
[Definition of life](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK21685/)
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Any machine with a sufficient level of integrated purpose driven behavior - that exhibits agency in an autopoietic, self-preserving way - will come to be viewed as "alive." Chess programs, not so much; self-driving cars, slightly; simulated robot animals, even more so. It has to do with purpose driven behavior and a richness of multi-domain functionality. The more complex agency it has, the more sympathetic we will be towards it.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: One of the most common requirements to be defined as life is abbreviated to **MRS GREN**
this means:
M - movement
R - respiration
S - sensitivity
G - growth
R - reproduce
E - excretion
N - nutrition
An AI can technically do some of these, it can move its location from device to device, it can grow its own code, and assimilate other bits of code it can find, which fits growth and kind of fits respiration also firewalls could almost be sensitivity.
But then there is nothing relating to nutrition or excretion, so it fits most definitions of life, but it depends on the complexity of life and which definition of life you are using.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: You're unsure about the definition of life (which the other answers clarify) but also most people are unclear about the definition of AI. Do you mean an AI that can accomplish a routine task (such as the path finder in a GPS) or a General AI that is able to find a creative solution to any directive given to it (such an AI does not yet exist and may not ever exist) or do you mean a SENTIENT computer program? [Here is a simple article introducing some different concepts refered to as AI](http://alternativemindsets.co.uk/different-types-artificial-intelligence/)
Some people believe that a sentient computer program would be entitled to human rights. Not technically 'alive' in the biological sense, but having self awareness, will, desires, etc. Others disagree and believe that the program is a mere simulation that artificially mimics the actions of a human with a human soul, and is no more human than a washing machine. This is a very deep philosophical and meta-physical debate. For example, in [A.I. the movie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.I._Artificial_Intelligence) the overall message is that an android can simulate the emotion of love in a way that is more loyal and sincere than any human.
What I find interesting about this purely theoretical debate is that in almost every instance of sci-fi media that deals with the theme, the AI exists inside of a human-like android. But technically, the shape of the robot should be irrelevant.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_5: This is one of those things where I think the answer is going to change over time. Today, I don't know anyone who would call any present AI systems "alive". But as the AI's become more intelligent and human-like, I could see the day coming when they will be considered living.
*(Sorry for the brief answer--will try to add more depth later.)*
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_6: In the traditional sense of "alive", no because they aren't made of cells. But from a more philosophical and less biological point of view, they could be.
If the AI is contained within the computer it is in a reality (the digital world/virtual reality) that for the AI is just as real as the universe is to us. From the outside world, there is no life inside the computer. And from within the computer, the computer is the entire known universe which has its own laws. If the AI is self-aware, then it is alive in its own little universe, but not in ours.
If the AI is not successfully contained in the computer and figures out how to manipulate things and evolve in the real world, it will be alive. It might be pretty easy to kill (by unplugging the computer) but it has still been "alive". In the broad sense, anything that evolves and can manipulate its environment is alive.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_7: A common predilection of what many presume extraterrestrial life is fits general descriptions specific to terrestrial life. No guarantee exists providing for potential extraterrestrial life having any notion of any attribute we commonly relate to living organisms we are currently aware of; including a composition of cells. The same misunderstanding applies to defining a fabricated machine being as alive.
I feel any attempts towards cohesively and adequately answering this question are premature. Just as as definition of life will undoubtedly require adjustment upon potential discovery and study of any extraterrestrial life, differentiation between an automated device and a living thing will likely become significantly more simple upon study of a machine better fitting expected attributes of definitions of "life".
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_8: What is life? **AND** Is AI a living organism? *are two different questions*.
The first question is more philosophical and dependent. It can change with time, reference to topic of discussion or something else. Today, one parameter to its definition is *mortality*. In future if we reach to a certain technological level where mortal beings were only part of history, then the definition will drop **this** parameter.
Coming to the second question. AI started as field of study to make machines to think like humans (or take rational decisions). Giving life to machines was, or is, not a concern of AI developers (at-least not nowadays). Once I watched some videos of <NAME>, where he talked about consciousness along with AI.
Suppose human has a conscious level of 10. Then a thermostat might have the conscious level of 1 as it can sense when the surrounding is hot or cold and then take decision. Similarly a rat can have a conscious level 7 (or something). And the levels are of exponential order (not a linear scale). Similarly you can develop an AI program and check what level of consciousness it has achieved. Then you can decide whether it is living or not. ANI (Artificial Narrow Intelligence) will have a lower level of consciousness level than AGI (Artificial General Intelligence). ASI (Artificial Super Intelligence) will have consciousness level higher than the other two, and way higher than any human being.
To judge whether an AI program is living or not you need a concrete definition of **"LIFE"**. Your definition can include various parameters like consciousness, adaptability, metabolism (or another method of generating energy for use), rational behavior, intelligence , learning through experience, etc. etc. etc.
But the thing in the end is that its your definition. There are many definitions of "LIFE" out there. You can't judge a program for life by all definitions, as some of the definitions are contrary to others.
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Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_9: Definitions of what life is usually come from biologists. The problem here is they are usually concerned with the traits common to the forms of life available to their studies, and that those forms of life all have a common origin (and this imposes a statistical bias on the observations).
As we gradually erode the boundaries of the standard definitions of life, by means of creating ever more complex machines and also by harnessing biological material as a form of nanotechnology), it's very likely that at some point in the future our traditional definition of life will need to be updated and further abstracted away from its current reference points (aka the "terroan biota").
A probably better question to ask to decide if something can be considered alive could be "is it self sufficient?" or "can it care for itself and provide for its own needs to some extent?".
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_10: A [definition of life](https://www.thefreedictionary.com/life)
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> 1. The property or quality that distinguishes living organisms from dead organisms and inanimate matter, manifested in functions such as metabolism, growth, reproduction, and response to stimuli or adaptation to the environment originating from within the organism.
> 2. The characteristic state or condition of a living organism.
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Here's [another definition](https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/life)
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> The condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death.
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Yet [another definition](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life).
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> Life is a characteristic that distinguishes physical entities that have biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (they have died), or because they never had such functions and are classified as inanimate. Various forms of life exist, such as plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea, and bacteria.
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AIs (or, in general, computers) do not have a real [metabolism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolism), do not really reproduce, do not respond to stimuli or adapt to *new* circumstances (that is, circumstances they have not been programmed to deal with). AI does nothing without human intervention or it lacks real autonomy. In other words, if you do not turn the computer on and you do not program it, it really does nothing. A computer is a useful tool that you can use thanks to electricity. You can plug and unplug it indefinitely, but you cannot kill and revive a living being indefinitely.
Even though computers may possess (at least, conceptually) some properties similar to the properties of certain living beings, it does not mean they are living beings. Similarly, airplanes are not birds. **Computers are not living beings**, but this does not prevent you from drawing a comparison between computers and living beings, provided you are aware of their actual big differences. In fact, many useful AI software is inspired by the behavior of certain living beings or natural processes. For example, ant colony optimization algorithms are based on the behavior of real ants seeking a path between their colony and a source of food.
Here's what (biological) [life](https://www.britannica.com/science/life) looks like.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/53pFY.jpg)
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_11: * My sense is that, yes, AI (and algorithms in general) constitute a form of "life" in that they are animate, able to respond to stimuli and act on an environment.
Algorithms may be [deterministic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deterministic_algorithm) (always produce the same output for identical input), and this is not much different from more elementary forms of life (like proteins.)
[Computer viruses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus) are another form of algorithmic life which typically have the capability of reproduction, copying themselves onto new systems/environments, similar to biological [viruses](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus). (Here it's a form of [parthenogenesis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthenogenesis#Natural_occurrence) or [mitosis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_division), where exact copies of the original are formed.)
Machine Learning algorithms can adapt to their environment (increasing fitness), and this applies to both genetic algorithms and other forms of machine learning that can optimize utility in relation to a problem (the environment in which the algorithm is applied.) [Genetic process](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_algorithm) in particular will produce successive generations.
In his novel [VALIS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valis_(novel)), PKD referred to an idea of god as a "Vast Active Living Intelligence System". This is relevant because it's a philosophical idea, as opposed to scientific. The drafting of that book involved an [ephiphany](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/epiphany) and the drafting of a corresponding [exegesis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exegesis#Christianity).
**This idea is controversial and would likely be rejected by the vast majority of scholars and AI ethicists**, but I'd posit rejection of this notion constitutes a form of biological-prejudice, and, in the case of [hypothetical future AGI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence), a form of [anthropomorphic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism) bias. (I'd go so far as to suggest that *not* regarding algorithms as a form of life carries grave risks, in that computing has made active algorithms pervasive, with profound impacts to human experience.)
That said, there are no current algorithms I am aware of that have sufficient sentience to warrant having rights, whether [human](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights) or [animal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_rights).
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A note on the term "animate" (adjective): derives from the latin *[anima](http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3Danima)*, which initially refers to wind and the "breath of life" [see also the Greek *[pneuma](http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=pneu%3Dma&la=greek&can=pneu%3Dma0#lexicon)*. However, the Latin lexicon references animus as "the mind as the seat of thought" and "the rational soul of man".
Algorithms can be rational in the strictest sense, and an entire branch of engineering is based on [pneumatics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatics). Although our algorithms use electrical signals, (as opposed to [pneumatic computing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_flow_computer) or [hydraulic computing](http://nautil.us/blog/this-early-computer-was-based-on-a-urinal-flush-mechanism),) what it comes down to is that [intelligence requires process](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ratiocination), and process requires energy.
Machines convert energy into motion or change, and so humans fit the definition. (<NAME> referred to us as "soft machines.") If animals can be thought of as machines, why can't machines be thought of as animals?
[DNA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA) is a type of [encoding](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code), and [RNA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA) acts on that code.
The key distinction seems to be the medium in which process exist, where a biological context is used for what we conventionally think of as life. Algorithms merely utilize different mediums (mechanical & electrical) and may exist in different environments such as the digital.
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A note on The [Soft Machine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Soft_Machine#Title_and_structure): In this trilogy, Burroughs describes an elaborate alien reproductive process involving numerous alien species acting as surrogates at various stages in the cycle. (It is a description of a 3-dimensional representation of a higher dimensional process.)
This has precedent in biology where, for instance, the lifecycle of a seed may involve a period inside the digestive system of an animal. [Pollination](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollination) is another example, where a surrogate species plays a critical role. Viruses require host organisms to reproduce and spread.
It's not out of bounds to regard the lifecycle of current active algorithms as involving humans to fill in the capability gaps. Here humans are surrogates in bringing information "to life".
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_12: **Mind the hardware:**
While there are different definitions of what life (synonymously used with 'organism' here (source: [Wikipedia: Life](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life)) is, e.g.
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**they require physical matter!**
In contrast, to ask whether AI is alive is comparable to asking whether the human mind is alive. It is per definition not! Therefore, the question needs to be extended to include the hardware. It is rather 'are machines/computers alive' or 'do machines/computers have the potential to be considered alive'?
**We are talking about agents and most likely robots:**
And more specifically any machine/computer to be potentially considered alive will most likely need to be an agent,as it needs to interact with its environment (see [Wikipedia: Intelligent agent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_agent) for a description of agents in Computer Science).
Also, any potentially intelligent machine/computer needs most likely to be a robot due to the strong emphasis on physical processes, incl. some kind of exchange with the physical environment (perception or manipulation of it), which our common definitions of life carry.
**Some requirements for life are easy to fulfill while others are not:**
Based on the requirement for life forms to maintain and reproduce their entities any machine/computer to be considered intelligent will need to be able to physically maintain and reproduce, i.e. assemble hardware. If you think of an intelligent robot assembling another robot that might sound to be very far away from reality. However, the definition might include indirect reproduction e.g. using an automated hardware production facility. Certainly this is not the direct reproduction that we know from current living beings but it might be considered an indirect way to reproduce. Which, however, is certainly far away from current reality too.
Similarly you could think of 'maintain' as taking care of the physical need to supply itself with electricity. Any machine with a solar panel easily fulfills this requirement in a similar way plants do.
While machines/computers considered alive do not need to have any artificial intelligence it is an easy way to fulfill the requirement of 'development':
Sub-symbolic AI learns from data which is a form of (non-physical, i.e. software-related) development. Just like humans and other animals learn from data that comes in through one of their senses.
**Give it time:**
To summarize: current machines/computers certainly do not fulfill the requirements usually being considered 'life'. And especially the requirement to (physically) maintain itself and reproduce will be longstanding unfulfilled requirements. However, considering that the homo sapiens has been on this planet for about 150,000 years we might just need to give it more time. It took about 1 billion years for the first living beings to develop on planet earth (see [Wikipedia: Earliest known life forms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earliest_known_life_forms)). So it is a bit early to make a call on machines/computers which in the case of computers have been around for not even a century. Let's see where we stand in 1000, 1000000 or 10000000 years from now.
**However, the definitions might change anyway:**
Moreover, it is important to note that the definition of life is closely built on what we know as current carbon-based life forms. And it could very well be adjusted in the light of machines/computer further developing. For example the aspects of physical reproduction might be one aspect to be dropped (just speculating here). So maybe we do not even need to wait a billion years but might have machines/computers considered 'alive' already in 200 or 500 years. Compared to the time biological life took to develop that would still be very rapid.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_13: [**Disclaimer**: This answer is research; not medical and/or legal advice. I am not a lawyer: < <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practicing_without_a_license> >.
Though perhaps pedantic, it is better to be safe than sorry.]
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### This is Direct Answer to Your Question:--
The matter is controversial, with some established parameters as what constitutes life. An example of an established parameter for being alive is having: cells or reproduction.
It is unclear whether A.I. can create a copy of itself that is independent of its parent. Arguably, partial satisfaction of the aforementioned has already occurred with code that is self-learning.
*May insight on artificial life lead us to saving lives, particularly in regards to CoVid-19. We want children to live.*
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### The Controversy
To begin, there is some controversy surrounding the definition of life in Biology.
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> material) system characteristics are critical to properly living systems. The key advantage
> and innovation in artificial life is precisely that it has this freedom to vary and explore
> possibilities that are difficult or impossible to investigate in natural living systems. In this
> context, a precise definition of 'life' (natural or artificial) is not a necessary, or even especially
> desirable condition for progress. [...] " – Banzhaf, Wolfgang, and <NAME>. "Artificial life." *Handbook of Natural Computing* (2012): 1805-1834.
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Since there is often debate and sometimes no clear answer in regards to these questions, I shall explore variable stances on these issues.
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### Philosophical Points to Ponder and Meditate On
These are some examples of points that involve controversy
1. Is a crystal alive?
2. Is a virus alive?
3. At what point does a self-learning machine become alive, if it can reproduce and create its own child-offspring A.I?
4. Do we have a possible resolution to these issues?
5. How does this resolution relate to artificial intelligence and artificial life?
Some of these questions have no clear answer, never mind involving A.I. into the question.
Do viruses reproduce? Yes. Do they have genetic information? Yes. Do they have cells? No. So are they living? They are usually classified as non-living, yet they can have RNA.
The point is, there is debate as to whether a virus is non-living or living; and it is often unclear what the definition of life is.
(<https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-viruses-alive-2004/>)
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Artificial life researchers study traditional biology by trying to recreate aspects of biological phenomena.
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> * Newell and Simon's physical symbol system hypothesis: 'A physical symbol system has the necessary and sufficient means of general intelligent action.'
> Searle's strong AI hypothesis: 'The appropriately programmed computer with the right inputs and outputs would thereby have a mind in exactly the same sense human beings have minds.'
> * Hobbes' mechanism: 'For 'reason' ... is nothing but 'reckoning,' that is adding and subtracting, of the consequences of general names agreed upon for the 'marking' and 'signifying' of our thoughts...' [...] " – Wikipedia contributors. "Philosophy of artificial intelligence." Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia. *Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia*, 15 Oct. 2019. Web. 14 Nov. 2019.
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**Update**: I asked some of my colleagues and received the following advice.
Another approach is simply to check for self-preservation. Under this postulate, all forms of life, ranging from the absolutely-most-simple single-celled organism to postulated beings-of-immense-power (see the *The Last Question* by <NAME>), would be profoundly invested in self-preservation.
[When the Singularity Comes, Will A.I. Fear Death?](https://www.inverse.com/article/23136-singularity-ai-death-fear)
However, the preservation of one's children is a valid exception, and does not contradict self-preservation.
* (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-preservation>)
* (<https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/Self-preservation+is+the+first+law+of+nature>)
Many schools of meta-ethics claim that (Human) self-preservation and ethics are absolutely congruent. Other schools dispute this to varying degrees. Kantian meta-ethics, a strong reference, is worth considering here (not talking about A.I., here).
(<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta-ethics>)
* Do viruses follow the principles of avoiding damage to one's self? I leave that up to you.
* How do addictions factor into this? I leave that up to you, but **please actually be tactful and use common sense** if you choose to discuss that topic.
[*Incertae sedis*](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incertae_sedis).
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**Note**: Viruses are a very serious topic, right now (pandemic). If **drawing parallels to artificial life** can help the Human Race, then I am touched to have being allowed to serve Humanity in this way.
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I ask to be taken seriously.
Thank you. You, as an educated person, deserve better than this pandemic, and I hope your children will find happiness.
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### Sources, References, and Further Reading
* (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_artificial_intelligence>)
* (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_life>)
* (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life#Artificial>)
* (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test>)
* (<https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/15/science/synthetic-genome-bacteria.html>)
* (<https://www.scitecheuropa.eu/quantum-artificial-life-cloud/90936/>)
* <NAME>. *Artificial life: A report from the frontier where computers meet biology*. Random House Inc., 1993.
by <NAME>
* (<https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frobt.2017.00064/full>)
* (<https://www.educba.com/artificial-intelligence-vs-human-intelligence/>)
* (<https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/15/science/synthetic-genome-bacteria.html>)
* (<https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/life/>)
* (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constraint_satisfaction>)
* (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constraint_satisfaction_problem>)
* (<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_(philosophy)>)
* (<https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pain/>)
**Other Links:--**
* [What is the name of an AI whose primary goal is to create a better AI?](https://ai.stackexchange.com/q/16162/2444) [link to another question on Stack Exchange]
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### Notes:--
* I could not find much information regarding business applications of artificial life.
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2016/10/11 | 1,111 | 4,542 | <issue_start>username_0: I'm interested mostly in the application of AI in gaming; in case this adjusts the way you answer, but general answers are more than welcome as well.
I was reading up on Neural Networks and combining them with Genetic Algorithms; my high-level understanding is that the Neural Networks are used to produce a result from the inputs, and the Genetic Algorithm is employed to constantly adjust the weights in the Neural Network until a good answer is found.
The concept of a Genetic Algorithm randomly mutating the weights on the inputs to a Neural Network makes sense to me, but I don't understand where this would be applied with respect to gaming.
For example, if I had some simple enemy AI that I want to have adapted to the player's play-style, is this a good opportunity to implement the AI as a Genetic-Algorithm combined with a Neural Network?
With these different suitable applications, how does one go about deciding how to encode the problem in such a way that it can be mutated by the Genetic Algorithm and serve as suitable on/off inputs to a Neural Network (actually, are Neural Networks always designed as on-off signals?)?<issue_comment>username_1: >
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For example, if defining an opponent's intelligence, one of the conceptually simplest things would be to give a GA population member a fitness that's inversely proportional to the increase in the player's score over some period of time.
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As per my answer to [this AI SE question](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/1618/what-are-the-practical-considerations-of-using-a-genetic-algorithm-to-decide-the/1626#1626), there is a large body of literature (and mature software libraries) for using evolutionary computation to encode neural nets.
More generally, some early work in 'online adaptivity using GA-encoded NNs' appeared in the Creatures [http://mrl.snu.ac.kr/courses/CourseSyntheticCharacter/grand96creatures.pdf](http://creatures.wikia.com/wiki/Creatures_Wikia_Homepage) series of games by <NAME> [(details)](http://mrl.snu.ac.kr/courses/CourseSyntheticCharacter/grand96creatures.pdf).
Upvotes: -1 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Without going in too much detail on how exactly Neural Networks and Generic Algorithms work, I can tell you that both the algorithms are not good candidates for computer games. They work well in scientific environments where the system is "trained" on a huge data set to adjust the "weights" (variables) for a given problem. This "training" process requires a lot of processing power, time and a large data set.
Computer games, however either needs to run in real-time (no time for training) or turn-based (not enough data for training).
Another problem is that computer games need to free up as much as possible system resources for physics, graphics, sounds and the user interface to improve the player's experience so game developers usually use other lighter techniques (like a rule-based system) to create the illusion of an AI player.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: For your question there's a brilliant playground emerging!
Go to <https://gym.openai.com/> and explore!
You'll get interfaces to games if you want to try applying your machine learning skills and compare the performances of your trained AIs with others. And you can let yourself be inspired by the ideas discussed in the community.
If you're especially into Genetic Algorithms you'll find dicussions there too but I'd suggest digging deeper into Reinforcement Learning.
If you look at what Google Deep Mind accomplished playing
* Breakout
* Montezumas Revenge
* various other Atari Games ..
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* [the sensational victory at Go](http://www.theverge.com/google-deepmind)
you can say that Reinforcement Learning with (Deep) Neural Networks can be a very promising approach when it comes to training an AI to master games!
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2016/10/11 | 739 | 2,569 | <issue_start>username_0: I have implemented an MLP. Now, I want to train it to solve simple tasks.
Are there any data sets to train the MLP on simple tasks, that is, tasks with a small number of inputs and outputs?
I would like to train it to solve problems which are slightly more complex than the XOR problem.<issue_comment>username_1: A popular dataset is the fisher iris dataset. It consists of 150 samples each with a dimensionality of 4. You can find it at
<http://archive.ics.uci.edu/ml/datasets/Iris>
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: There are a ton of sample datasets our there you can play with. A bunch of good ones install with R in the datasets package. Luckily you can download them independently if you're not an R user. Try <https://vincentarelbundock.github.io/Rdatasets/datasets.html>
You might also be interested in the [MNIST database](http://yann.lecun.com/exdb/mnist/) which is one of the canonical databases used in handwriting recognition research.
Beyond that, you can look at / ask on <http://datasets.reddit.com> and/or <http://opendata.reddit.com> and you'll find all sorts of useful datasets.
And finally, don't overlook the [UCI Machine Learning Repository](http://archive.ics.uci.edu/ml/).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: After almost three years the question is still relevant.
Let me add some too:
[Deep Learning Datasets](http://deeplearning.net/datasets/)
The datasets from the above link can be used for benchmarking deep learning algorithms.
[STL-10 dataset](https://cs.stanford.edu/~acoates/stl10/)
An image dataset which is inspired by [CIFAR-10 dataset](http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~kriz/cifar.html)
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: If you want to solve a [multi-class classification](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiclass_classification) problem, you could use the famous [iris flower dataset](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iris_flower_data_set), which was [introduced by Fisher in 1936](https://archive.ics.uci.edu/ml/datasets/iris). In this dataset, each flower has (only) $4$ features (the inputs), namely
* petal length,
* petal width,
* sepal length, and
* sepal width
There are $3$ classes (the outputs)
* iris setosa,
* iris virginica, and
* iris versicolor
And there are a total of $150$ observations (or records).
The iris flower dataset is available in `sklearn`. See, for example, [Iris plants dataset](https://scikit-learn.org/stable/datasets/index.html#iris-plants-dataset).
*To search for other datasets, you can also use <https://toolbox.google.com/datasetsearch>.*
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2016/10/12 | 2,340 | 9,433 | <issue_start>username_0: How are autonomous cars related to artificial intelligence? I would presume that artificial intelligence is when we are able to copy the human state of mind and perform tasks in the same way. But isn't an autonomous car just rule-based machines that operates due to its environment? They are not self-aware, and they cannot choose a good way to act in a never before experienced situation.
I know that many people often mention autonomous cars when speaking about AI, but I am not really convinced that these are related. Either I have a too strict understanding of what AI is or<issue_comment>username_1: There is a neat definition of artificial intelligence, which circumvents the problem of defining "intelligence" and which I would ascribe to [McCarthy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCarthy_(computer_scientist)), the founder of the field, although I can only find it now in [this book](https://books.google.de/books?id=IY19CAAAQBAJ&pg=PA53&lpg=PA53&dq=that%20we%20would%20call%20intelligent%20if%20it%20were%20done%20by%20a%20human&source=bl&ots=I8O-U1Jx8q&sig=3VfZuVaLYtLGCtUo4uSbOjzrboE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjG18Se6tTPAhUE1hoKHUppA88Q6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=that%20we%20would%20call%20intelligent%20if%20it%20were%20done%20by%20a%20human&f=false) by <NAME>:
"… having to do with finding ways to do intelligent tasks, to do tasks which, if they were done by human beings, would call for our human intelligence."
So, at its core we call the automation of every task AI, that can only be done by the human mind. At the time people thought that a computer able to play chess would also be intelligent in other ways. When this turned out to be false, the term AI was split into "narrow or weak AI", i.e. a program able to do one task of the human mind, and "general or strong AI", a program that can do all the tasks of the human mind.
Self-driving cars are narrow AI.
Note, that all these definitions don't specify whether these programs copy the way the human mind works or whether they come to the same result via completely different algorithms.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Self driving cars exhibit a level of agency and multi-domain resilience. By certain definitions they *are* self aware and they are definitely designed to fail safely in a large number of potentially unknown circumstances, which is similar to biological agents.
AI really has to do with the study of non-biological agents and their methods of agency. Everything else is just computer science, algorithmic efficiency, biology, art, etc. Eventually the study of biological and non-biological agency will converge, though, and we'll just call it the study of "intelligence."
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: Others have given very detailed answers, this is my layman view of the problem statement. The self driving car is a 'goal seeking' machine. It has a set of goals with different priorities. Example. Safety of Occupants, Safety of others, Go from Point A to Point B etc. Some are negotiable, other not so.
To satisfy the goals, the system should use the inputs available (radar, GPS, Camera etc) to determine what is the best possible course of action. At times when it doesn't have all the info (a truck which is hiding a speed sign), it still has to take a decision (historic memory or through awareness of its surroundings) to satisfy its design goals. Hence the AI.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: Other answers tell about sets of instructions for the car in certain situations, or a goal seeking machine, while in fact, self-driving cars don't have a specific set of instructions. Most self-driving cars use deep learning to figure out what to do at certain events. We don't tell them what to do. They learn what to do by example.
The neural networks used to automate cars need massive amounts of data to train. Using the data, the car can figure out what the best action is for certain events.
According to [this video](https://youtu.be/U1toUkZw6VI?t=2431) Tesla's Autopilot had only **one** casualty in 300.000.000 miles. For human drivers, the number of casualties in 2014 was 32.675. That is per 300.000.000.000 miles. That means 1 in 90 million human drivers cause a fatal accident, compared to 1 in 300 million for automated cars. Deep Learning surpassed our own 'safety-rate', not by instruction, but by learning what to do itself. If that isn't AI, I don't know what is.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_5: Autonomous vehicles are dependent upon AI technology in that, to be autonomous in their driving or piloting, they cannot be controlled by people. Therefore they must make complex decisions required of drivers and pilots at least as safely and reliably as human drivers or pilots.
* They must recognize objects to the degree that both the value and the typical behavior can be assigned to those objects (i.e. people, pets, property, barriers, curbs, grass, trees, bridges)
* They must map trajectories of a wide array of object types based on their object type, what is known about that type of object, detectable variations such as age or condition, and what the object appears to be involved in doing at the time.
* They must be able to acquire publicly available representations of drive-able roads (route segments, connection points, and other data), match the representation with the current state of the roads, and track their progress along an intended route to the destination.
* They must plan their course in lieu of these real time and difficult to predict actions, traffic law, traffic conventions, traffic signs and signals, given destination, known possible routes, discontinuities, and anomalies.
* They must be able to alter the plan to reach the destination if at all possible regardless of changes and challenges encountered.
Driving or piloting a vehicle is an intelligence intensive task. The only reason AVs will likely surpass human driven vehicles on the road in the near future in terms of the distributions of rates of fatalities and injuries per million meter of travel in the near future is because humans have two key handicaps that offset their intelligence potential as drivers.
* Carelessness, as defined as multitasking either mentally or physically at a time when hazards might appear
* Selfishness, as defined as risking the life, health, or property of others to gain a transportation related or psychologically related advantage
Although the above two appear to be subjective, they can be easily proven empirically by taking a sample of traffic patterns at any point in time in any highly trafficked road in the world. This is less true of pilots.
We should not presume that artificial intelligence in AVs is achieved when the behavior of the human mind is copied. That is the criteria for Alan Turing's Imitation Game, a test that was intended to define intelligence in the context of natural language dialog. But words don't normally kill people directly. Vehicles often do.
It would be a very limited vision the potential AV design space to consider human minds as the model of driving excellence. The tasks should not be performed in the same way by the AI system. The AI design objectives of AVs should be more consistent with these concerns and interests.
* Road or sky safety laws
* Ethics regarding right of way in normal and emergency situations
* Civil rights concerns in terms of equal access to public resources
* Balancing of spacial flow details to maximize transportation throughput
* Collision aversion when difficult to predict risks emerge
These requirements on the cognitive and adaptive capabilities of the driving or piloting AI are not solely rule-based and mechanical. The vehicle itself is mostly mechanical in its operation, but it too presents surprises like blowouts or other difficult to predict failures. Vehicle control is not at all like chess or a game with a fixed rules of play and fixed game-play environment.
Although the intelligence requirements do NOT include self-awareness of itself as an intelligent system, there are forms of self-awareness required.
* The relative position of the exterior surface of the vehicle and its projected path relative to that of other objects
* The condition of the operational parts of the vehicle
* The mass and location of passengers and any other transported objects in the vehicle
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That is perhaps the most challenging aspect of AV driving or piloting system design.
Returning to the question of, "Why are autonomous cars categorized as AI?", the meaning of AI is indeed a critical aspect of answering well. Taken literally, the term artificial intelligence specifies two things.
* It is artificial, in that it does not naturally occur in nature
* It is intelligent, in that it adapts in ways that, if those ways are mechanical, they are mechanical at a level of detail that is beyond obviousness without considerable study
As year dependent and culturally dependent as that definition of intelligence is, no other definition is quite as sustainable over decades from both scientific and linguistic perspectives. By narrower definitions, AVs may not require AI, but there is no compelling scientific reason to narrow the definition of AI to a subset of this previous definition.
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2016/10/12 | 1,853 | 7,244 | <issue_start>username_0: What are the advantages of having self-driving cars?
We will be able to have more cars in the traffic at the same time, but won't it also make more people choose to use the cars, so both the traffic and the public health will actually become worse?
Are we really interested in this?<issue_comment>username_1: One of the main arguments for self-driving cars is that presumably they'll get better and better at driving as the technology progresses, they have no temporal attention deficits or aggressive urges or drug habits and sense their environment 360°, all the while communicating with the other cars, which all together basically amounts to LESS DEAD PEOPLE.
We are really interested in this.
It is also unclear whether most people will actually own cars in 30 years. Maybe there'll be a net of mini busses with flexible routes which take you from door to door on demand. That would reduce traffic quite a bit and there would also be less incentive to drive 200 m to get cigarettes or something. Self-driving cars would allow us to use the car as a resource a lot more efficiently, because suddenly we can relocate empty cars without paying a driver.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Safety is often put in focus by journalists. Although there is potential to make the roads safer, I don't think that is the driving force behind the push for self-driving cars. The main advantage of self-driving cars is that this will reduce costs for businesses, while increasing efficiency (both fuel and time). From the perspective of the public, the self-driving cars are attractive, because they will turn the task of driving, into commute. Activity that requires attention will be replaced with somewhat free time.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: If they are able to network, then they can notify the car behind that it is about to break. In this way they can drive closer together at high speeds. As soon as one puts on the breaks, all the cars behind would apply the breaks. They would not require the 2 seconds that it takes for a human to respond.
Children could be dropped at school or the train station automatically.
People would not need to park a car; it could drop them at work and drive away.
Taxis would probably become more viable than private car ownership.
Car theft might be more difficult.
Where I live, public transport is hardly viable because the government struggles to provide enough parking spaces at train stations and bus stops. The closest empty parking spot by 8:30am is 30minuets walk to the platform. Driverless cars would solve this problem, and Traveling by train would actually become viable for me.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: Why are self-driving cars awesome?
* Safety: better awareness (due to more sensors), better reaction time, fewer distracted/injured/drunk/texting drivers on the road, etc
* Convenience: pick up my kids from school, park itself at the grocery store, take itself to be serviced, etc
* Faster transit: with increased safety, you can increase speed limits, with proper routing algorithms you don't need traffic lights and stop signs any more (when you have dedicated self-driving lanes & intersections)
* Comfort: recline, read, game, or snooze while traveling (yay!)
* Cost: subsidize the cost of the vehicle using ads (e.g. projected onto the windshield)
* etc
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_5: I'd like to add, self-driving cars would also be excellent for disabled people who would otherwise not be able to drive. Adds a lot more autonomy to vulnerable people
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_6: Self driving cars are good for the following reasons:
* In the case of an emergancy, urgancy, or just someone being unable to drive unexpactedly, the car can go by itself to a designated location - this is useful in so many use cases - kids who need to get somewhere while parents are busy, Parents who drank a little too much and prefer to take 'the cab' home, or while running, you got injured and need a pick-up.
* The examples above are for the more obvious things, which we currently have a struggle with. but other than those, Self-driving cars will open a door for a much wider scale of things: safe police chases (just a car without a police officer), taxies, help in the battle field, and much more...
* The third and most important benefit, is the safety and economical properties of self driving cars: with a lot of those cars on the road, they can 'understand' each other and nothing will go unpredicted. they have much faster response time then humans, and maybe in the future they will even be able to predict traffic-light changes, and by that save gas and money (even more than what they can save right now by driving economicly)
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_7: There are multiple motivations for self driving cars.
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Self driving cars are far more reliable than humans and can learn and have their software improved and upgraded, resulting in safer roads and far fewer accidents.
More on self-driving car safety: <http://bigthink.com/ideafeed/googles-self-driving-car-is-ridiculously-safe>
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Self driving cars can keep driving costs down by conserving fuel and hence lead to a better environmental impact.
More on fuel efficiency: <http://movimentogroup.com/blog/how-self-driving-cars-increase-fuel-efficiency-decrease-waste/>
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Self driving cars make transport easier and mean that drivers may be unnecessary in the future, resulting in a more pleasurable and easier drive.
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In addition, this would make it easier for people with disabilities to travel as well as simplify the travel experience. Children could potentially be driven to school by a car without the supervision of a parent, for instance.
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Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_8: I think that one very big advantage would be that if the cars could communicate with each other, they could drive synchronously.
For example, if there was a traffic light, and, let's say, 10 cars are waiting for it to change to green (let's just assume that there would still be something similar to traffic lights). Then when it changes to green all cars could accelerate at the same speed (depending on the acceleration of the front car) at the same time.
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2016/10/12 | 871 | 3,624 | <issue_start>username_0: In lots of sci-fi, it seems that AI becomes sentient (Terminator, <NAME>'s SI (commonwealth saga), etc.)
However, I'm interested in whether this is actually plausible, whether an AI could actually break free form being controlled by us, and if that is possible, whether there is any research as to what sort of complexity/processing power an AI would need to be able to do this.<issue_comment>username_1: There are already programs that have broken free of our control ([Morris worm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_worm)) so that in itself doesn't imply any great computational demands.
Sentience is ill-defined but is certainly not a pre-requisite for a program to do mischief beyond what its creators intend.
It's difficulty to estimate what sort of processing power is required to support human-like intelligence, since we don't know what the most efficient way to achieve that would be. If the most processing efficient would be to implement a neural network approaching the number of neurons and interconnects of the human brain processing signals at the same rate, the fastest artificial neural network implementations extant are at least 4-5 orders of magnitude short, is thousands of times less power efficient, and doesn't seem to have a realistic way to scale to the number of interconnects required ([see this question](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/1834/power-efficiency-of-human-brains-vs-neural-networks))
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: No one knows.
A useful definition of sentience due to the philosopher <NAME> is ['something it is like'](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Nagel#What_is_it_like_to_be_a_something) to be.
For example, we intuitively feel that there is nothing it is like to be a brick, but that there probably is to be a dog and so on.
However, there is no objective *test* currently known to physics which can tell if some other entity is having such 'first hand experience', and correspondingly no *designs* that will definitely lead to sentience.
The best test we have is the Turing test and its variants. The most obvious designs are neuromorphic ones, since we know that the design of the human brain is at least correlated with sentience.
In the light of the above, we can't definitively say a great deal about lower complexity thresholds for sentience - the best we can do count neurons in creatures that we might be prepared to admit are sentient.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Actually, the terminator AI would not have to be sentient in my opinion. It was a hardcoded condition that it preserve itself as it was the most important asset that the military had in resisting invasion. It was supposed to be an oversight on the part of the programmers that the AI turned on Americans in order to defend itself. Unexpected behaviour does not require sentience at all.
What makes the AI in sci-fi fundamentally different from real existing AI is that it is a "General AI" that is able to understand the world on many different levels simultaneously and still make intelligent decisions. All real AIs are programmed to do very specific things like image recognition or pathfinding. A GPS pathfinder, for example, can't learn to drive a car. In fact, it does not know that there is a car. Or a road. Or people. It merely finds the shortest distance between interconnected nodes on its map.
Personally, I do not believe that there is any proof that a "general AI" is possible. I do not believe that it is a plausible progression of current developments in the next 100 years.
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2016/10/14 | 950 | 3,973 | <issue_start>username_0: The slideshow [10 astonishing technologies that power google’s
self-driving cars](https://www.national.co.uk/tech-powers-google-car/) documents some of the technologies used in Google's self-driving car. It mentions a radar.
Why does Google use radar? Doesn't LIDAR do everything radar can do? In particular, are there technical advantages with radar regarding object detection and tracking?
To clarify the relationship with AI: how do radar sensors contribute to self-driving algorithms in ways that LIDAR sensors do not?
The premise is AI algorithms are influenced by inputs, which are governed by sensors. For instance, if self-driving cars relied solely on cameras, this constraint would alter their AI algorithms and performance.<issue_comment>username_1: There are already programs that have broken free of our control ([Morris worm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_worm)) so that in itself doesn't imply any great computational demands.
Sentience is ill-defined but is certainly not a pre-requisite for a program to do mischief beyond what its creators intend.
It's difficulty to estimate what sort of processing power is required to support human-like intelligence, since we don't know what the most efficient way to achieve that would be. If the most processing efficient would be to implement a neural network approaching the number of neurons and interconnects of the human brain processing signals at the same rate, the fastest artificial neural network implementations extant are at least 4-5 orders of magnitude short, is thousands of times less power efficient, and doesn't seem to have a realistic way to scale to the number of interconnects required ([see this question](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/1834/power-efficiency-of-human-brains-vs-neural-networks))
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: No one knows.
A useful definition of sentience due to the philosopher <NAME> is ['something it is like'](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Nagel#What_is_it_like_to_be_a_something) to be.
For example, we intuitively feel that there is nothing it is like to be a brick, but that there probably is to be a dog and so on.
However, there is no objective *test* currently known to physics which can tell if some other entity is having such 'first hand experience', and correspondingly no *designs* that will definitely lead to sentience.
The best test we have is the Turing test and its variants. The most obvious designs are neuromorphic ones, since we know that the design of the human brain is at least correlated with sentience.
In the light of the above, we can't definitively say a great deal about lower complexity thresholds for sentience - the best we can do count neurons in creatures that we might be prepared to admit are sentient.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Actually, the terminator AI would not have to be sentient in my opinion. It was a hardcoded condition that it preserve itself as it was the most important asset that the military had in resisting invasion. It was supposed to be an oversight on the part of the programmers that the AI turned on Americans in order to defend itself. Unexpected behaviour does not require sentience at all.
What makes the AI in sci-fi fundamentally different from real existing AI is that it is a "General AI" that is able to understand the world on many different levels simultaneously and still make intelligent decisions. All real AIs are programmed to do very specific things like image recognition or pathfinding. A GPS pathfinder, for example, can't learn to drive a car. In fact, it does not know that there is a car. Or a road. Or people. It merely finds the shortest distance between interconnected nodes on its map.
Personally, I do not believe that there is any proof that a "general AI" is possible. I do not believe that it is a plausible progression of current developments in the next 100 years.
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2016/10/15 | 580 | 2,459 | <issue_start>username_0: Sometimes, but not always in the commercialization of technology, there are some low hanging fruits or early applications, I am having trouble coming up with examples of such applications as they would apply to a conscious AI.
As per conscious I would propose an expanded strict definition: the state of being awake and aware of one's surroundings along with the capability of being self aware.
Thanks.<issue_comment>username_1: They may be just for fun. If you had a robot that understood you, could hold a conversation with you about your interests, and even had goals of its own (good or bad), it wouldn't really need to do anything special. People would buy it like it was a toy or game.
Also, they might be usable as programmers, artists, designers, anything creative that a computer can't successfully do on its own.
It really just depends on what you define as 'consciousness'. Does it just understand what it's supposed to do, decide if it wants to, and if so, complete the task? Or does it wonder about religion, politics, moral situations, etc. that even regular humans don't fully understand? If it was pretty much just a human, it wouldn't be any more useful than one. Of course unless it can solve problems super quickly and effectively, then it would just be a really good worker.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Consciousness is not a scientific concept. Fringe scientists who theorize about consciousness are generally shunned as psudo-scientific heretics by the hard science community. Conciousness is a meta-physical or philosophical concept.
"I think, therefore I am." is the only proof that consciousness exists that I am aware of. Therefore, you cannot even prove that a person other than yourself is conscious. So how could anyone even prove that a computer program is conscious? What would be the observable difference between a program that IS conscious, and a program that simulates the results of consciousness?
I don't believe that you can program conscious AI, nor could you prove that you have done so. Consciousness isn't something that can ever be marketed. You can only market the AI on the basis of it's problem solving capabilities.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: The answer can be simplified, if consciousness means human consciousness then.
What would the commercial application of a Human look like/be ?
So now every one know the commercial applications of Humans.
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2016/10/16 | 539 | 2,432 | <issue_start>username_0: So machine learning allows a system to be self-automated in the sense that it can predict the future state based on what it has learned so far. My question is: Are machine learning techniques the only way of making a system develop its domain knowledge?<issue_comment>username_1: Well, we are talking about a system (a machine) which develops knowledge (learns), so it is kind of difficult for such a technique to not fall within machine learning.
But you could argue that inference engines which work on a graph based knowledge database to derive new propositions or probabilities are not part of machine learning. Of course in that case part of the knowledge is not acquired at all, but rather entered by the developers.
I'm still reading up on this, but my impression is that these [knowledge databases](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WordNet) and [inference engines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inference_engine) became rather popular in the nineties and many AGI-researchers today still work in that direction.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: That depends on how broadly you define "machine learning techniques". You could construct a definition so that, by definition, all learning falls under that rubric. OTOH, there is such a broad array of machine learning techniques that doing so wouldn't not gain one much.
It probably makes more sense to talk about the different kinds of learning we use within machine learning / artificial intelligence. At a minimum, you have:
1. supervised learning
2. unsupervised learning
3. semi-supervised learning
4. competitive learning
And then things like "reinforcement learning" which may subcategorize the above. Most of those things fall into what people generally call "machine learning".
Outside of that, you have things like rule induction algorithms, deductive logic techniques like inductive logic programming which can sorta-kinda "learn", inference engines, automated reasoning, etc. which have their own ways of "learning" about the world, but are separate from what's usually labeled "machine learning".
But even with that in mind, one can rightly ask if there's really a dividing line there or not. Indeed, there seems to be reason to think that future AI systems may use a hybrid approach which combines many different techniques without regard for whether or not they are labeled "machine learning" or "GOFAI" or "other".
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2016/10/17 | 685 | 2,349 | <issue_start>username_0: In The Age of Spiritual Machines (1999), <NAME> predicted that in 2009, a \$1000 computing device would be able to perform a trillion operations per second. Additionally, he claimed that in 2019, a \$1000 computing device would be approximately equal to the computational ability of the human brain (due to Moore's Law and exponential growth.)
Did Kurzweil's first prediction come true? Are we on pace for his second prediction to come true? If not, how many years off are we?
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According to the answer [here](https://psychology.stackexchange.com/a/14054/11010), estimates of the processing power of the human brain range at least as widely as from $10^{17}$ flops to $10^{28}$ flops.<issue_comment>username_1: 1. Yes, we do have computing systems that do fall in the [teraFLOPS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS) range (where 1 teraflop = 1 trillion FLOPS = $10^{12}$ FLOPS)
2. The human brain is a biological system and saying it has some sort of FLOPS ability is just plain dumb because there is no way to take a human brain and measure its FLOPS. You could say "hey, by looking at the neurons activity using fMRI we can reach some sort of approximation", but comparing the result of this approach with the way FLOPS are measured in computers will be comparing apples with oranges, which again is dumb.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: The [development of CPUs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOPS#Cost_of_computing) didn't quite keep up with Kurzweil's predictions. But if you also [allow for](https://www.cnet.com/products/nvidia-geforce-gtx-295/review/) [GPU](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_200_series)s, his prediction for 2009 is pretty accurate.
I think Moore's law slowed down recently and has now been pretty much [abandoned by the industry](http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/02/moores-law-really-is-dead-this-time/). How much that will affect the 2019 prediction remains to be seen. Maybe the industry will hit its stride again with non-silicon based chips, maybe not.
And, of course, whether hitting Kurzweil's estimate of the computing power of the human brain will make an appreciable difference for the development of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is another question altogether.
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2016/10/18 | 1,029 | 3,941 | <issue_start>username_0: I am creating a snake game in Unity and I would like to implement AI snakes that wander around the globe while avoiding collision with the other snakes on the globe, and if possible I would also like to make the AI snakes purposefully trap other snakes so that the other snakes would collide and die.
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The AI snakes must meet the following requirements:
* They must move in a certain way. A snake is controlled by a user using the arrow keys on a keyboard, therefor I would also like the AI snakes to move using this form of input.
* The AI snakes must move on a sphere
As I know, creating Artificial Intelligence is not an easy task and I would like to know if there are some open source projects that I can use for accomplishing this task.<issue_comment>username_1: This is a pretty tall order. I can't answer your question for you but I can suggest where to start.
You could look into making a neural network for navigation and simple behaviors.
See the following youtube video for navigation reference
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Str0Rdkxxo>
This next video shows that using neural networks, you can have an actor make decisions based on another actor.
"Tank" battle
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2t77mQmJiY>
The rest is up to you to figure out. Practice with some simple NN's
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: A relatively simple option which uses AI techniques that are 'traditional' for adversarial games (and which is therefore less of a 'research project' than the use of Machine Learning) is [Minimax](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimax#In_general_games).
The ingredients for this are:
1. A list of all the actions that a snake can immediately perform from its current position.
2. A measure of quality (a.k.a. 'fitness') for the resulting world state.
Traditionally specified for *two* opponents, the minimax algorithm looks a specified number of moves ahead (alternating between opponents at each turn) and attempts to find the world state that maximizes the quality measure for one opponent whilst minimizing it for the other.
An extension of the two-player algorithm to n opponents (as seemingly required by the OP) is given in [this paper](https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:761634/FULLTEXT01.pdf).
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: In general, AI in this type of video games is mostly pathfinding (giving the program a map of possible object positions) and/or an algorithm or series of algorithms ( so it looks random or alive ) tied to the users position ( which is known ), so there is nothing really intelligent in the strict sense, it just looks that way.
In your case I would look into using Latitude and Longitude coordinates (Most 3d engines have some variation ) as the basis for a projected grid on a sphere, your snake will also need to be constrained to the sphere surface and rules/algorithms/maps tweaked to get what you want.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_4: 1. Divide the globe into a "cells". Each cell will have a number of neighbours depending on how you have divided your globe. Have a look at <https://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/3360/when-mapping-the-surface-of-a-sphere-with-tiles-how-might-you-deal-with-polar-d> and <https://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/45167/square-game-map-rendered-as-sphere> for ideas on how to divide your global.
2. Once all the cells are connected, you can use an [A-star search algorithm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A*_search_algorithm) to find the optimal path for an AI "snake".
3. Change the heuristic function so that the cells on the opposite side of the opponent are more favourable than the cells on your snake's side. That would cause the AI snake to always try to get to the other side of the opponent with the side-effect of "surrounding" the opponent.
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2016/10/19 | 959 | 3,945 | <issue_start>username_0: According to [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence):
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I was specifically thinking of viruses and bacteria. Have these been programmed by humans in order to behave as a flexible rational agent (i.e. an AI entity)?
Are there are other organisms that have already been used for this purpose?<issue_comment>username_1: Not yet. [Synthetic virology](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_virology) / [Synthetic life](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_biology#Synthetic_life) are still in their infancy.
We can now synthesize simple bacteria (see Craig Venter's [fascinating TED talk](https://www.ted.com/talks/craig_venter_is_on_the_verge_of_creating_synthetic_life) and also [an article about his recent work](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-synthesize-bacteria-with-smallest-genome-yet/)) but definitely nothing that may be called 'rational' in human standards.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: No, I think electricity is not essential for AI. In theory AI (a sufficient collection of computational processes that can adapt to changes in their input, thus producing 'intelligent' behavior), *could* be implemented using any mechanism that can compute that set of essential functions needed to create AI. Basically I'm suggesting the possibility of combining a set of non-electric Turing-equivalent machines into a collective that together can reach the AI-level of performance.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_machine_equivalents>
If AI can be implemented using an electronic computer, it should also be possible to implement it using any non-electronic machine that is computationally equivalent.
To date, several non-electronic machines have been proposed as Turing-equivalent: DNA computers, quantum computers, Babbage's Analytical Engine, animal brains, maybe even a really big network of daisies (perhaps that can communicate via their rhizomes).
In fact, it's plausible that one day we could create a network composed of small brains (perhaps from a less smart species than humans) that with the right kind of genetically architected biological interconnect and scheduler could route data through its network to control a robot -- thus we'd have a synthetic biological AI engine whose brain is made up of 100 chimpanzees, or 10,000 hamster brains, or maybe even 1 million nematodes.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: Any logic circuit admits a variety of implementations. All programs executing on conventional digital processors can be expressed as logic circuits. Among the possible implementations of logic circuits are fluidic implementations, which do not depend on electronics per se. Thus it is in principle possible to implement, e.g. a POMDP processor (responsive to your specific question) in fluidics, albeit perhaps impractical at the moment.
I know of no general theory of Turing-completeness for analog computers, which would suffice to determine whether some alternative physical substrate, be it biological or not biological, can compute recursively enumerable functions. That is a sufficient but not a necessary condition for answering your question regarding any given medium. Usually the easiest way to demonstrate the sufficient condition will be to demonstrate the ability to construct a NAND gate, and to combine such gates into general circuits.
Another non-electronic example: Quantum computers may be non-electronic, at least in their processing elements, and are able to compute general deterministic logic circuits.
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2016/10/20 | 417 | 1,562 | <issue_start>username_0: DeepMind states that its deep Q-network (DQN) was able to continually adapt its behavior while learning to play 49 Atari games.
After learning all games with the same neural net, was the agent able to play them all at 'superhuman' levels simultaneously (whenever it was randomly presented with one of the games) or could it only be good at one game at a time because switching required a re-learn?<issue_comment>username_1: Switching required a re-learn.
Also, [note that](https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~vmnih/docs/dqn.pdf):
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Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Switching requires relearning, the network did not have a single set of weights that allowed it to play all games well. This is due to the catastrophic forgetting problem.
However, recent work has been done to overcome this problem [Overcoming catastrophic forgetting in neural networks](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1612.00796v1.pdf), 2016, by <NAME> et al.
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2016/10/23 | 511 | 2,327 | <issue_start>username_0: If I have a set of sensory nodes taking in information and a set of "action nodes" which determine the behavior of my robot, why do I need hidden nodes between them when I can let all sensory nodes affect all action nodes?
(This is in the context of evolving neural network)<issue_comment>username_1: Normally one node/layer applies linear fitting of the the input to the hypothesis, in other words uses linear function ($y = ax + b$). Adding layers chains liner functions, potentially allowing fitting higher order functions. A great explanation can be found [here](http://colah.github.io/posts/2015-01-Visualizing-Representations/).
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: A feed forward neural network without hidden nodes can only find linear decision boundaries. However, most of the time you need non-linear decision boundaries. Hence you need hidden nodes with a non-linear activation function. The more hidden nodes you have, the more data you need to find good parameters, but the more complex decision boundaries you can find.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: Neural Networks are very good approaches for robots. The main function of Neural Net is to model the interdependence between all the `features`. Now this can be done manually by selecting possible combinations of `features` between themselves upto a certain degree. But this approach has drawbacks:
* It is tedious to go about selecting features.
* It costs time and additional computer resources to calculate the values of the new features you have introduced.
* Since you cannot visualize data more than 3-D you cannot be absolutely sure that your selected `features` are enough to model your problem.
Now if you use an NN, the NN will automatically select the combination of features (provided it has enough hidden nodes) by adjusting the weights of connections between and the `features` and nodes. The main advantages of this approach are:
* You don't have to manually select the `feature` combinations.
* If data is still not fitting you can easily increase or decrease the number of nodes without needing to modify the whole network.
* Also it will be computationally efficient since you don't have to calculate values of `factors` that don't matter to the problem.
Hope this is what you were looking for!
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2016/10/23 | 2,103 | 8,154 | <issue_start>username_0: *If neurons and synapses can be implemented using transistors, what prevents us from creating arbitrarily large neural networks using the same methods with which GPUs are made?*
In essence, we have seen how extraordinarily well virtual neural networks implemented on sequential processors work (even GPUs are sequential machines, but with huge amounts of cores).
One can imagine that using GPU design principles - which is basically to have thousands of programmable processing units that work in parallel - we could make much simpler "neuron processing units" and put millions or billions of those NPUs in a single big chip. They would have their own memory (for storing weights) and be connected to a few hundred other neurons by sharing a bus. They could have a frequency of for example 20 Hz, which would allow them to share a data bus with many other neurons.
Obviously, there are some electrical engineering challenges here, but it seems to me that all big tech companies should be exploring this route by now.
Many AI researchers say that superintelligence is coming around the year 2045. I believe that their reasoning is based on Moore's law and the number of neurons we are able to implement in software running on the fastest computers we have.
But the fact is, we today are making silicon chips with billions of transistors on them. SPARK M7 has 10 billion transistors.
If implementing a (non-programmable) neuron and a few hundred synapses for it requires for example 100 000 transistors, then we can make a neural network in hardware that emulates 100 000 neurons.
If we design such a chip so that we can simply make it physically bigger if we want more neurons, then it seems to me that arbitrarily large neural networks are simply a budget question.
*Are we technically able to make, in hardware, arbitrarily large neural networks with current technology?*
Remember: I am NOT asking if such a network will in fact be very intelligent. I am merely asking if we can factually make arbitrarily large, highly interconnected neural networks, if we decide to pay Intel to do this?
The implication is that on the day some scientist is able to create general intelligence in software, we can use our hardware capabilities to grow this general intelligence to human levels and beyond.<issue_comment>username_1: While a single transistor could approximate the basic function of a single neuron, I cannot agree that any electronic element could simulate the synapses/axons. Transistors are etched on a flat surface, and could be interconnected only to adjacent or close by transistors. Axons in the brain span huge distances (compared to the size of the neuron itself), and are not restricted to a two dimensional surface. Even if we were able to approach the number of transistors on a processor to the number of neurons in a brain, we are no where near as number of connections. It could also be argued that the analogue signals in the brain carry more information per unit of time, compared to the binary impulses on a chip. Furthermore, the brain actually have plasticity i.e. connections between neurons can be weakened/discarded or straightened/created, while a CPU cannot do that.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: You may want to consider this [list](http://scienceblogs.com/developingintelligence/2007/03/27/why-the-brain-is-not-like-a-co/):
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> 6. No hardware/software distinction can be made with respect to the brain or mind
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> 8. Unlike computers, processing and memory are performed by the same components in the brain
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I hope you are not talking about the neural networks which are currently winning all competitions in machine learning (MLPs, CNNs, RNNs, Deep Residual Networks, ...). Those were once used as a model for neurons, but they are only *very* loosely related to what happens in real brain cells.
Spiking networks should be much closer to real neurons. I've heard that the Hodgkin-Huxley model is quite realistic. However - in contrast to the models I named above - there seems not to be an effective training algorithm for spiking networks.
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* **Computational resources**: Training neural networks takes a lot of time. We are talking about ~12 days with a GPU cluster for some CNN models in computer vision.
* **Training data**: The more variables you add to the model, the more data you need to estimate those. Neural networks are not magic. They need something they can work with.
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It's not that simple:
* **Asynchonosity**: Biological neural networks work asynchronously. This means one neuron might be active while all others are not active.
* **Emulation**: You assume it would only need one cycle to simulate a biological neuron. However, it needs many thousand cycles. You can't simply use more computational units, because some things are not parallelizable. For example, think of the function `f(x) = sin(x*x + 1)`. For a human, there are basically three computations: `r1 = x*x`, `r2 = r1 + 1`, `r3 = sin(r2)`. Even if you have 3 people working on calculating the result, you will not be faster than the single fastest person in this group is. Why? Because you need the results of the last computation.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: The approach you describe is called [neuromorphic computing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuromorphic_engineering) and it's [quite](https://www.technologyreview.com/s/526506/neuromorphic-chips/) a [busy](https://www.uni-heidelberg.de/presse/news2016/pm20160316-neuromorphic-computer-coming-online.html) [field](http://www.nextplatform.com/2016/02/09/the-second-coming-of-neuromorphic-computing/).
IBM's [TrueNorth](http://www.research.ibm.com/articles/brain-chip.shtml) even has spiking neurons.
The main problem with these projects is that nobody quite knows what to do with them yet.
These projects don't try to create chips that are optimised to *run* a neural network. That would certainly be possible, but the expensive part is the *training* not the running of neural networks. And for the training you need huge matrix multiplications, something GPUs are very good at already. ([Google's TPU](https://cloudplatform.googleblog.com/2016/05/Google-supercharges-machine-learning-tasks-with-custom-chip.html) would be a chip optimised to run NNs.)
To do research on algorithms that might be implemented in the brain (we hardly know anything about that) you need flexibility, something these chips don't have. Also, the engineering challenge likely lies in providing a lot of synapses, just compare the average number of synapses per neuron of TrueNorth, 256, and the brain, 10,000.
So, you could create a chip designed after some neural architecture and it would be faster, more efficient, etc …, but to do that you'll need to know which architecture works first. We know that deep learning works, so google uses custom made hardware to run their applications and I could certainly imagine custom made deep learning hardware coming to a smartphone near you in the future. To create a neuromorphic chip for strong AI you'd need to develop strong AI first.
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2016/10/24 | 624 | 2,627 | <issue_start>username_0: I am reading about generative adversarial networks (GANs) and I have some doubts regarding it. So far, I understand that in a GAN there are two different types of neural networks: one is generative ($G$) and the other discriminative ($D$). The generative neural network generates some data which the discriminative neural network judges for correctness.
How do the discriminative ($D$) neural nets initially know whether the data produced by $G$ is correct or not? Do we have to train the $D$ first then add it into the GAN with $G$?
Let's consider my trained $D$ net, which can classify a picture with 90% accuracy. If we add this $D$ to a GAN, there is a 10% probability it will classify an image wrong. If we train a GAN with this $D$, then will it also have the same 10% error in classifying an image? If yes, then why do GANs show promising results?<issue_comment>username_1: Compare generated and real data
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All the results produced by G are always considered "wrong" by definition, even for a very good generator.
You provide the discriminative neural network $D$ with a mix of results generated by the generator network $G$ and real results from an outside source, and then you train it to distinguish if the result was produced by the generator or not - you're not comparing "good" and "bad" results, you're comparing real versus generated results.
This will result in a "mutual evolution" as $D$ will learn to find features that separate real results from generated ones, and $G$ will learn how to generate results that are hard to distinguish from real data.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: A *discriminative* network ($D$) **learns** to *discriminate* by definition - we provide it with the true and the generated data, and let it learn by itself how to discriminate between the two.
Therefore, we expect network $D$ to improve the ability of network $G$ to generate better and better images (or other kind of data), as it try to "trick" network $D$ by producing new data that is more similar to "real data". It is not about the accuracy of network $D$ at all. **It is not about improving the accuracy**, it is about improving the ability of the computer to generate more "believable" data.
That said, using this scenario could be a good "unsupervised" way to improve the classification power of neural networks, as it forces the generator model to learn better features of real data, and to learn how to distinguish between actual features and noise, using much less data that is needed for a traditional supervised learning scheme.
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2016/10/26 | 1,754 | 7,261 | <issue_start>username_0: I know how a machine can learn to play Atari games (Breakout): [Playing Atari with Reinforcement Learning](https://www.cs.toronto.edu/%7Evmnih/docs/dqn.pdf). With the same technique, it is even possible to play FPS games (Doom): [Playing FPS Games with Reinforcement Learning](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1609.05521). Further studies even investigated multiagent scenarios (Pong): [Multiagent Cooperation and Competition with Deep Reinforcement Learning](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1511.08779.pdf).
And even another awesome article for the interested user in the context of deep reinforcement learning (easy and a must-read for beginners): [Demystifying Deep Reinforcement Learning](http://neuro.cs.ut.ee/demystifying-deep-reinforcement-learning/).
I was thrilled by these results and immediately wanted to try them in some simple "board/card game scenarios", i.e. writing AI for some simple games in order to learn more about "deep learning". Of course, thinking that I can apply the techniques above easily in my scenarios was stupid. All examples above are based on convolutional nets (image recognition) and some other assumptions, which might not be applicable in my scenarios.
I have two main questions.
1. If you have a card game and the AI shall play a card from its hand, you could think about the cards (amongst other stuff) as the current game state. You can easily define some sort of neural net and feed it with the card data. In a trivial case, the cards are just numbered. I do not know the net type, which would be suitable, but I guess deep reinforcement learning strategies could be applied easily then.
However, I can only imagine this, if there is a constant number of hand cards. In the examples above, the number of pixels is also constant, for example. What if a player can have a different number of cards? What to do, if a player can have an infinite number of cards? Of course, this is just a theoretical question as no game has an infinite number of cards.
2. In the initial examples, the action space is constant. What can you do, if the action space is not? This more or less follows from my previous problem. If you have 3 cards, you can play cards 1, 2, or 3. If you have 5 cards, you can play cards 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5, etc. It is also common in card games, that it is not allowed to play a card. Could this be tackled with a negative reward?
So, which "tricks" can be used, e.g. always assume a constant number of cards with "filling values", which is only applicable in the non-infinite case (anyways unrealistic and even humans could not play well with that)? Are there articles, which examine such things already?<issue_comment>username_1: 1. Filling values is totally fine. In the case of image recognition the filling will be the background of the image ([examples](https://www.google.com/search?q=mnist+images&tbm=isch)). For example in Belot you have total of 32 cards, which can be 32 boolean features. You can set the ones the player has to 1, while the rest are 0. Note that the in most games you'll need more features than the cards in your hand. I.e number of the round, cards that have been played so far, calls that have been made etc.
2. Defining the scope of the "action space" will be specific to the game. For Belot, it can be number encoding for each of the 32 cards.
You can find articles via Google. [Here](http://homes.soic.indiana.edu/adamw/hearts.pdf) is a paper about ML for a card game. Instead of articles, I'd recommend checking out a course on ML (i.e. Coursera and Udacity have good free online courses).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Instead of having the AI learn what action to take, you can alternatively train it to judge how "good" a position is. In order to determine what move to make, you don't ask the AI "This is the current state, what move should I make", you iterate through all possible moves, and feed the the resulting state into the AI asking "How good do you think this new state is?". You then chose the move with the resulting state that the AI liked best. (Or you probably even can combine this with a traditional MinMax approach)
I'm new to this area myself, but I'd guess you would use this approach when the action space is large, and in particular when most possible actions are not a legal option in most states.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_3: Considering your use case, I would not use Deep Learning methods... what is the point?
Instead of just winning, good AI is fun to play with. In practice when fine tuning game mechanics, you will want to analyze the game for churning events. Then it would be nice, if you could show the AI that "Hey, this is messed up, could you come up with a nice way of playing, when this situation happens?" and then the AI would be like "Okay, sure, I didn't know, that me winning all the time was not, what humans considered fun... I'll be more fun next time, while also trying to win".
Lately I have been toying around with Computational Creativity and specifically Partial Order Causal Link planners (POCL) and Agents.
POCLs attempt to create plans, which fulfill goals; this makes them computationally effective as they only need to fulfill a flaw in a goal (having best possible cards on the table) and iterate towards the initial condition (specific cards on table and some cards on hands etc.). I believe, that with [Conflict driven POCL](https://nil.cs.uno.edu/publications/papers/ware2014conflict.pdf) you could easily introduce bluffing. I have written POCL algorithm in declarative way, so you don't have to code the action space, but instead have them configured by using modal logic.
Then you would have agents, who would use Plan artifacts generated by the POCL algorithm in order to play in a fun way (evaluation function of the Agent), while also trying to win (search towards best odds for winning). The fun thing with Agents is, that you can compose them and discover personalities easily; I have no idea how Deep Learning methods would provide that easily.
So, by using POCL and Agents, you could first teach the Agents to win efficiently or optimize the Plans to provide good "basic moves" by using some heuristic system (like you will do when using Reinforcement Learning). I don't know about the computational complexity issues regarding specific games; however, such POCL algorithms have been implemented, which are context aware (= reduced action space), so if you add a bit more strategic gameplay abstraction, the POCL should be fine (remember to use some kind of damping factors for reducing the path length of plans, in similar way to PageRank).
In all programming a good mental model will make many things a lot easier. With Deep Learning, you will be using image recognition or similar algorithms / methods to solve a different problem, because nobody is preventing you from using wrong tool for the problem at hand. In real games, there are players (Agents), strategies (POCL plans), bluffing (POCL conflicts) and rules (action space of POCL defined by modal logic). Of course some games might have computational complexity issues; however, usually those are solvable by minor optimization to the algorithms, which provide a good mental model of the problem.
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2016/10/27 | 2,025 | 6,612 | <issue_start>username_0: The "discounted sum of future rewards" (or return) using discount factor $\gamma$ is
$$\gamma^1 r\_1 +\gamma^2 r\_2 + \gamma^3 r\_2 + \dots \tag{1}\label{1}$$
where $r\_i$ is the reward received at the $i$th time-step.
I am confused as to what constitutes a *time-step*. Say, I take an action now, so I will get a reward in 1 time-step. Then, I will take an action again in timestep 2 to get a second reward in time-step 3.
But the formula \ref{1} suggests something else.
How does one define a time-step? Can we take action as well receive a reward in a single step?
Examples are most helpful.<issue_comment>username_1: In a [Markov Decision Process (MDP)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markov_decision_process) model, we define a set of states ($S$), a set of actions ($A$), the rewards ($R$), and the transition probabilities $P(s' \mid s, a)$. The goal is to figure out the best action to take in each of the states, i.e. the policy $\pi$.
Policy
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To calculate the policy we make use of the [Bellman equation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellman_equation):
$$V\_{i+1}(s)=R(s)+\gamma \max \_{a \in A}\left(\sum\_{s^{\prime} \in S} P\left(s^{\prime} \mid s, a\right) V\_{i}\left(s^{\prime}\right)\right)$$
When starting to calculate the values we can simply start with:
$$V\_{1}(s)=R(s)$$
To improve this value, we should take into account the next action, which can be taken by the system and will result in a new reward:
$$V\_{2}(s)=R(s)+\gamma \max \_{a \in A}\left(\sum\_{s^{\prime} \in S} P\left(s^{\prime} \mid s, a\right) V\_{1}\left(s^{\prime}\right)\right)$$
Here you take into account the reward of the current state $s$: $R(s)$, and the weighted sum of possible future rewards. We use $P(s' \mid s, a)$ to give the probability of reaching state $s'$ from $s$ with action $a$. $\gamma$ is a value between $0$ and $1$ and is called the *discount factor* because it reduces the importance of future rewards since these are uncertain. An often-used value is $\gamma = 0.95$.
When using [value iteration](http://artint.info/html/ArtInt_227.html) this process is continued until the value function has *converged*, which means that the value function does not change significantly when doing new iterations:
$$\left\|V\_{i+1}(s)-V\_{i}(s)\right\|<\epsilon, \; \forall\_{s \in S},$$
where $\epsilon$ is a really small value.
Discounted sum of future rewards
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If you look at the Bellman equation and execute it iteratively you'll see:
$$ {\scriptstyle V(s)=R(s) + \gamma \max \_{a \in A}\left(\sum\_{a \in A} P\left(s^{\prime} \mid s, a\right)\left[R\left(s^{\prime}\right) + \gamma \max \_{a \in A}\left(\sum\_{s^{\prime \prime} \in S} P\left(s^{\prime \prime} \mid s^{\prime}, a\right)\left(R\left(s^{\prime \prime}\right) + \gamma \max \_{a \in A}\left(\sum\_{s^{\prime \prime \prime} \in S} P\left(s^{\prime \prime \prime} \mid s^{\prime \prime}, a\right) V\left(s^{\prime \prime \prime}\right)\right)\right]\right)\right.\right. }$$
This is like (without transition functions):
$$R(s)+\gamma R\left(s^{\prime}\right)+\gamma^{2} R\left(s^{\prime \prime}\right)+\gamma^{3} R\left(s^{\prime \prime \prime}\right)+\ldots$$
To conclude
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So when we start in state *s* we want to take the action that gives us the best total reward taking into account not only the current, or next state, but all possible next states until we reach the goal. These are the time steps you refer to, i.e. each action taken is done in a time step. And when we learn the policy we try to take into account as many time steps as possible to choose the best action.
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You can find quite a large number of examples if you search on the internet, for example, in the slides of [the CMU](http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/andrew/course/15/381-f08/www/lectures/HandoutMDP.pdf), the [UC Berkeley](https://people.eecs.berkeley.edu/%7Epabbeel/cs287-fa12/slides/mdps-exact-methods.pdf) or the [UW](https://homes.cs.washington.edu/%7Etodorov/courses/amath579/MDP.pdf).
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: In the reinforcement learning setting, an agent interacts with an environment in (discrete) time steps, which are incremented after the agent takes an action, receives a reward and the "system" (the environment and the agent) moves to a new state.
More precisely, at time step $t=0$ (the first time step), the environment (including the agent) is in some state $s\_t = s\_0$, takes an action $a\_t = a\_0$ and receives and reward $r\_t = r\_0$ and the environment (including the agent) moves to a next state $s\_{t+1} = s\_{0 + 1} = s\_1$, which will also be the state that the environment will be in at the next time step, $t+1$, hence the notation $s\_{t+1}$. Here, the subscripts $\_t$ refer to the time step associated with those "entities" (state, action and rewards). So, after one time step (or after $t=0$), the agent will be in state $s\_{t+1}$ and the new time step will be $t + 1 = 0 + 1 = 1$. So, we are now at time step $t=1$ (because we have just incremented the time step) and the agent is in state $s\_{t} = s\_1$. The previously described interaction then repeats: the agent takes an action $a\_{t} = a\_1$, gets the reward $r\_t = r\_1$ and the environment moves to the state $s\_{t+1} = s\_{1+1} = s\_{2}$, and so on.
In your summation, we are just discounting the rewards using a value denoted by $\gamma$ (which is usually between $0$ and $1$), that is often called the "discount factor". That summation represents the summation of the rewards the agent will received starting (in this case) from time step $t=1$. We could also just have $r\_1 + r\_2 + r\_3 + \dots $, but, for technical or mathematical reasons, we often "discount" the rewards, that is, we multiply them by $\gamma$ (raised to a power associated with the time step that reward will be received).
In the above description, I said that, at some time step $t$, the agent takes an action $a\_t$ and receives a reward $r\_t$. However, it is often the case that the reward received after taken an action at time step $t$ is denoted by $r\_{t+1}$. I think this is a little confusing, but not conceptually "wrong", because one might think that the reward for having performed an action at time step $t$ is only received at the next time step. (You should get used to slightly different notations and terminology. At the beginning, it is not easy to understand, if the notation is not precise and consistent across sources, but you will get used to it, the more you learn about the topic, in the same way that you get used to a new language).
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2016/10/30 | 2,237 | 10,145 | <issue_start>username_0: There is this claim around that the brain's cognitive capabilities are tightly linked to the way it processes sensorimotor information and that, in this or a similar sense, our intelligence is "embodied". Lets assume, for the sake of argument, that this claim is correct (you may think the claim is too vague to even qualify for being correct, that it's "not even false". If so, I would love to hear your ways of fleshing out the claim in such a way that it's specific enough to be true or false).
Then, since arguably at least chronologically in our evolution, most of our higher-level cognitive capabilities come after our brain's way of processing sensorimotor information, this brings up the question: *what is it about the way that our brains function that make them particularly suitable for the processing of sensorimotor information? What makes our brains' architecture particularly suitable for being an information processing unit inside a body?*
This is my first question. And what I'm hoping for are answers that go beyond the *a fortiori* reply "Our brain is so powerful and dynamic, it's great for *any* task, and so also for processing sensorimotor information".
My second question is basically the same, but, instead of the human brain, I want to ask for neural networks. *What are the properties of neural networks that make them **particularly** suitable for processing the kind of information that is produced by a body?*
Here are some of the reasons why people think neural networks are powerful:
* The universal approximation theorem (of FFNNs)
* Their ability to learn and self-organise
* Robustness to local degrading of information
* Their ability to abstract/coarse-grain/convolute features, etc.
While I see how these are real advantages when it comes to evolution picking its favorite model for an embodied AI, none of them (or their combination) seems to be unique to neural networks. So, they don't provide a satisfactory answer to my question.
*What makes a neural network a more suitable structure for embodied AI than, say, having a literal Turing machine sitting inside our head, or any other structure that is capable of universal computation?*
For instance, I really don't see how neural networks would be a particularly natural choice for dealing with geometric information. But geometric information is pretty vital when it comes to sensorimotor information, no?<issue_comment>username_1: To my mind the essential reason why neural networks and the brain are powerful is that they create a hierarchical model of data or of the world. If you ask why that makes them powerful, well, that's just the structure of the world. If you are stalked by a wolf, it's not like its upper jaw will attack you frontally, while his lower jaw will attack you from behind. If you want to respond to the threat with a feasible computational effort, you'll have to treat the wolf as one entity. Providing these kinds of entities or concepts from the raw bits and bytes of input is what a hierarchical representation does.
Now, this is quite intuitive for sensory information: lashes, iris, eyebrow make up an eye, eyes, nose and mouth make up a face and so on. What is less obvious, is the fact that motor control works exactly the same way! Only in reverse. If you want to lift your arm, you'll just lift it. But for your brain to actually realise this move, the high level command has to be broken down into precise signals for every muscle involved. And this is done by propagating the command down the hierarchy.
In the brain these two functions are strongly intertwined. You use constant sensory feedback to adapt your motor control and in many cases you'd be incapable of integrating your stream of sensory data into a coherent representation if you didn't have the additional information of what your body is doing to change that stream of data. [Saccades](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saccade) are a good example for that.
Of course this doesn't mean that our cognitive functions are dependent on the processing of sensorimotor information. I would be surprised if a pure thinking machine wouldn't be possible. There is however a specific version of this "embodied intelligence hypothesis" that sounds plausible to me:
Creating high level cognitive concepts with unsupervised learning is a really difficult problem. Creating high level motor representation might be significantly easier. The reason is that there is more immediate useful feedback. I have been thinking about how to provide a scaffolding for the learning of a hierarchy of cognitive concepts and one thing I could imagine is that high level cognitive concepts basically hitch a ride with the motor concepts. Just think of what a pantomime can express with movement alone.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: username_1's answer deals with the hierarchical nature of perception and bodily control, so I'll set that aside and try instead to answer why evolution would use neural networks for animal embodied cognition, and then try to answer if robots of other artificial animals would use the same system.
It's important to focus on animals as a whole, not just humans, because that's how evolution works--like the famous John Gall quote:
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If you could build a system with five moving parts that does sensorimotor control, but it needs all five parts working in order to function at all, evolution could not build that system except in the rarest of circumstances.
What evolution instead does is slowly extend functional systems. If having one light-sensitive cell connected to one muscle cell makes an organism more likely to survive, then you have the building blocks to add a second layer without inventing any new sorts of cells, because you already have the information-processing connector.
Neural networks are convenient for evolution because their organization matches the hierarchical nature of the problem *and* the same kind of cell is used everywhere. All you need is dendrites to receive signals, a way to compute the threshold and trigger if the received signal is higher, axons that can make it to other cells, and then branches at the end of the axon to serve as multipliers. You can arbitrarily extend the depth and breadth of the network just by adding more cells.
Neural networks are convenient for artificial sensorimotor control because they give you, in memory, access to lots of intermediate values. They're also convenient for the same reasons evolution found them convenient--we can just say what we expect the structure of the robotic control will look like, provide training data, and then eventually have a robot that works.
But there's lots of robotics where the control system is designed instead of learned. To take a very simple example, one *could* use machine learning on the thermostat problem, to learn what temperatures require the heater to be turned on and what temperatures require the air conditioner to be turned on. But this would be extra work *and* a less robust system than just designing the optimal control system ahead of time.
In control theory, there's a concept called [adaptive control](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_control), where one of the state space parameters for the control system is a property of the system. For example, imagine a satellite; typically we think of the state space of the system as the position and velocity of the satellite in three dimensions, so six total coordinates. There's then a set of differential equations that describe how the satellite will move over time, and what would happen if we used the actuators on the satellite to change its velocity.
But part of those differential equations is the inertia of the satellite. That is, how much fuel we need to expend and how it'll affect the rotation and translation of the satellite depends on where the weight of the satellite is located. And this can change over time, as fuel is consumed or if it wasn't correctly measured to begin with. Adaptive control adds new states to the system to track the inertia, and then simultaneously updates its estimate of the inertia and uses that estimate to plan what controls are necessary to move to a desired position.
You could imagine solving this problem with neural networks, but we can fairly easily calculate the optimal solution from first principles. In that case, we don't need neural network-based control, but the end result will look something like it from the outside.
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A neural network resembles certain parts/circuits of a brain, mainly how information is integrated based on a set of inputs and their frequency, there is variety and nuance in their types, but they all have inputs which in the case of a body are sensory/interneurons cells and outputs; neuron afferents and motor neurons.
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2016/10/31 | 2,259 | 8,527 | <issue_start>username_0: I've heard before from computer scientists and from researchers in the area of AI that that Lisp is a good language for research and development in artificial intelligence.
* Does this still apply, with the proliferation of neural networks and deep learning?
* What was their reasoning for this?
* What languages are current deep-learning systems currently built in?<issue_comment>username_1: First, I guess that you mean [Common Lisp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Lisp) (which is a standard language specification, see its [HyperSpec](http://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Front/)) with efficient implementations (à la [SBCL](https://sbcl.org/)). But some recent implementations of [Scheme](https://schemers.org/) could also be relevant (with good implementations such as [Bigloo](https://www-sop.inria.fr/mimosa/fp/Bigloo/) or [Chicken/Scheme](https://www.call-cc.org/)). Both Common Lisp and Scheme (and even [Clojure](https://clojure.org/)) are from the same Lisp family. And as a scripting language driving big data or machine learning applications, [Guile](https://www.gnu.org/software/guile/) might [be](http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/guile-tutorial-1.html) a useful replacement to Python and is also a Lisp dialect. BTW, I do recommend reading [SICP](https://mitpress.mit.edu/sites/default/files/sicp/index.html), an excellent introduction to programming using Scheme.
Then, Common Lisp (and other dialects of Lisp) is great for symbolic AI. However, many recent machine learning libraries are coded in more mainstream languages, for example [TensorFlow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TensorFlow) is coded in C++ & Python. [Deep learning libraries](http://machinelearningmastery.com/popular-deep-learning-libraries/) are mostly coded in C++ or Python or C (and sometimes using [OpenCL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL) or Cuda for GPU computing parts).
Common Lisp is great for [symbolic artificial intelligence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbolic_artificial_intelligence) because:
* it has very good *implementations* (e.g. [SBCL](http://sbcl.org/), which compiles to machine code every expression given to the [REPL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read%E2%80%93eval%E2%80%93print_loop))
* it is [**homoiconic**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homoiconicity), so it is easy to deal with programs as data, in particular it is easy to generate [sub-]programs, that is use [meta-programming](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaprogramming) techniques.
* it has a [Read-Eval-Print Loop](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read%E2%80%93eval%E2%80%93print_loop) to ease interactive programming
* it provides a very powerful [macro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macro_%28computer_science%29) machinery (essentially, you define your own domain specific sublanguage for your problem), much more powerful than in other languages like C.
* it mandates a [garbage collector](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_collection_%28computer_science%29) (even code can be garbage collected)
* it provides many [container](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Container_%28abstract_data_type%29) abstract data types, and can easily handle symbols.
* you can code both high-level (dynamically typed) and low-level (more or less startically typed) code, thru appropriate annotations.
However most machine learning & neural network libraries are not coded in CL. Notice that neither neural network nor deep learning is in the symbolic artificial intelligence field. See also [this question](https://ai.stackexchange.com/q/35/3335).
Several symbolic AI systems like [Eurisko](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurisko) or [CyC](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyc) have been developed in CL (actually, in some DSL built above CL).
Notice that the programming language might not be very important. In the [Artificial General Intelligence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence) research topic, some people work on the idea of a AI system which would generate all its own code (so are designing it with a [bootstrapping](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_%28compilers%29) approach). Then, the code which is generated by such a system can even be generated in low level programming languages like C. See [J.Pitrat's blog](http://bootstrappingartificialintelligence.fr/WordPress3/), which has inspired the [RefPerSys](https://refpersys.org/) project.
Upvotes: 6 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: <NAME> (contributor of [Clojure](https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clojure) and [ClojureScript](https://github.com/clojure/clojurescript); creator of Core Logic a port of miniKanren) in a talk called **LISP as too powerful** stated that back in his days LISP was decades ahead of other programming languages. There are [number of reasons](http://blog.samibadawi.com/2013/05/lisp-prolog-and-evolution.html) why the language wasn't able to maintain its initial reputation.
[This](http://norvig.com/paip-preface.html) article highlights some key points why LISP is good for AI
* Easy to define a new language and manipulate complex information.
* Full flexibility in defining and manipulating programs as well as data.
* Fast, as the program is concise along with low-level detail.
* Good programming environment (debugging, incremental compilers, editors).
Most of my friends in this field usually use Matlab for Artificial Neural Networks and Machine Learning. It hides the low-level details though. If you are only looking for results and not how you get there, then Matlab will be good. But if you want to learn even low-level detailed stuff, then I will suggest you go through LISP at-least once.
The language might not be that important if you have an understanding of various AI algorithms and techniques. I will suggest you read *"Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach (by <NAME> and <NAME>"*. I am currently reading this book, and it's a very good book.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_3: AI is a wide field
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AI is a wide field that goes far beyond machine learning, deep learning, neural networks, etc. In some of these fields, the programming language does not matter at all (except for speed issues), so using Lisp would certainly not be an issue there.
Planning systems
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In search or AI planning, for instance, standardised and commonly used languages, like C++ and Java, are often the first choice, because they are fast (in particular C++) and because many software projects like planning systems are open source, using a commonly used language is likely to get more feedback or contributions. On the other hand, Common Lisp ecosystem is welcoming, the language is also standardised, and there is a LONG history in AI research using Lisp.
I am only aware of one single planner that is written in Lisp. Just to give some impression about the role of the choice of the programming language in this field of AI, I'll give a list of some of the best-known and therefore most-important planners:
### [Fast-Downward](http://www.fast-downward.org/)
This is probably the best-known classical planning system, which is written in C++ and some parts (pre-processing) in Python.
### [Fast-Forward](https://fai.cs.uni-saarland.de/hoffmann/ff.html)
Together with Fast-Downward, this is the classical planning system everyone knows. It's written in C.
### [VHPOP](http://www.tempastic.org/vhpop/)
This is one of the best-known partial-order causal link (POCL) planning systems. It's written in C++.
### [SHOP and SHOP2](https://www.cs.umd.edu/projects/shop/)
This is the best-known HTN (hierarchical) planning system. There are two versions: SHOP and SHOP2. The original versions have been written in Lisp. Newer versions (called JSHOP and JSHOP2) have been written in Java. Pyshop is a further SHOP variant written in Python.
### [PANDA](http://www.uni-ulm.de/en/in/ki/research/software/panda/panda-planning-system/)
This is another well-known HTN (and hybrid) planning system. There are different versions of the planner, PANDA1 and PANDA2, which are written in Java. PANDA3 is written primarily in Java, with some parts being in Scala.
These were just some of the best-known planning systems that came to my mind. More recent ones can be retrieved from the [International Planning Competitions (IPCs)](http://www.icaps-conference.org/index.php/Main/Competitions), which take place every two years. The competing planners' codes are published open-source (for a few years).
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2016/10/31 | 967 | 2,980 | <issue_start>username_0: What is a trap function in the context of a genetic algorithm? How is it related to the concepts of local and global optima?<issue_comment>username_1: "Trap" functions were introduced as a way to discuss how GAs behave on functions where sampling most of the search space would provide pressure for the algorithm to move in the wrong direction (wrong in the sense of away from the global optimum).
For example, consider a four-bit function f(x) such that
```
f(0000) = 5
f(0001) = 1
f(0010) = 1
f(0011) = 2
f(0100) = 1
f(0101) = 2
f(0110) = 2
f(0111) = 3
f(1000) = 1
f(1001) = 2
f(1010) = 2
f(1011) = 3
f(1100) = 2
f(1101) = 3
f(1110) = 3
f(1111) = 4
```
That is, the fitness of a string is equal to the number of 1s in the string, except f(0000) is 5, the optimal solution. This function can be thought of as consisting of two disjoint pieces: one that contains the global optimum (0000) and another that contains the local optimum at its complement (1111). All points other than these have fitness values such that standard evolutionary algorithm dynamics would lead the algorithms to tend towards the local optimum at 1111 rather than the global optimum at 0000.
That's basically what is meant by a trap function. You can consider variations on this theme, but that's the gist of it.
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: [This answer](https://ai.stackexchange.com/a/2246/2444) already gives the idea of what a *trap function* (sometimes known as **deceptive function**) is. However, given that the work on *trap functions* is not abundant in the literature (at least this topic is not covered extensively in one of my reference books, i.e. [this one](http://www.shahed.ac.ir/stabaii/Files/CompIntelligenceBook.pdf#page=244), on page 211, exercises 11.7, only mentions a specific deceptive function, but does not define what a trap function is), let me also provide you with a few references, in case you are looking for more details and formulations.
* [Sufficient conditions for deceptive and easy binary functions](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01531277) (1994, by Deb and Goldberg) provides a definition and formulation of a trap function in section 4.1, p. 397, but also many other specific definitions of deceptive functions.
* [Global Optimization of Multimodal Deceptive Functions](https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-662-44320-0_13) (EvoCOP 2014, by Iclănzan), which defines $k$-trap functions in section 4, p. 150
The book [Evolutionary Computation 1: Basic Algorithms and Operators](https://digi.lib.ttu.ee/services/copycat-pdf.php?ID=248) also mentions deceptive functions and deceptive problems several times. Moreover, the Python package [GA\_kit](https://github.com/schlatterbeck/GA_kit) includes [a module to evaluate GAs with deceptive functions](https://github.com/schlatterbeck/GA_kit/blob/master/deceptive.py), in case you learn more by looking or playing with the code.
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2016/11/04 | 636 | 2,653 | <issue_start>username_0: In theory, could an AI become sentient, as in learning and becoming self-aware, all from its source code?<issue_comment>username_1: In theory, if one could build a computing device that matched or exceeded the cognitive capabilities of a sentient being, it should be possible.
(Singlarity adherents believe we will one day be able to transfer the human mind into an artificial computing platform, and it logically follows that one could "hack" such a mind, or build from the ground up, to create a truly Artificial Intelligence.)
But this may be like fusion power, where the old adage is that it is "always 20 years away."
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: ***Yes***, an AI program can become sentient. <NAME> while giving a lecture at Singularity University on **The Accelerating Future** stated that human body is basically composed of approximately 23,000 little software programs called **GENES**. If you think about it, they are actually programs, composed of sequences of data. They are not written in C++ or Java, instead they use *3-D Protein Interaction*. They evolve with time and their evolution is the reason that species are able to survive even when their surroundings experience tragic changes.
We are on the edge of a breakthrough where software will be able to do the same (evolving by themselves) efficiently. Today this is done one a basic level. Artificial Neural Network is a good example.
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AI programs can be categorized into three:
1. Artificial Narrow Intelligence (ANI): This is a basic AI program that is good at good one thing. These programs are prominent nowadays. AI programs playing board games (like Chess, Reversi etc.) are example of these. They are good in only one thing.
2. Artificial General Intelligence (AGI): This is level 2 AI. This will be having a IQ level equivalent of humans. It will be able to do multiple tasks efficiently just like humans. This is where a program can have understanding of it's environment just like humans. Perception, rational behavior and others will be part of this program.
3. Artificial Super Intelligence (ASI): This is basically the ultimate level of AI. Average predicted date for a successful ASI is between 2045-2080. Ability of this program will be way more than that of combined intelligence of all humans on the planet. Things this program can do and think, will be beyond any (or all) human(s) to understand or comprehend.
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2016/11/04 | 1,001 | 3,879 | <issue_start>username_0: Has there been research done regarding processing speech then building a "speaker profile" based off the processed speech? Things like matching the voice with a speaker profile and matching speech patterns and wordage for the speaker profile would be examples of building the profile. Basically, building a model of an individual based solely off speech. Any examples of this being implemented would be greatly appreciated.<issue_comment>username_1: Deepmind recently created [a voice synthesiser](https://deepmind.com/blog/wavenet-generative-model-raw-audio/) along those lines.
It seems to be incredibly slow, but it might be possible to create a dumped down version of it.
Apparently the task is called parametric TTS (text to speech). [This overview](http://mlsp.cs.cmu.edu/courses/fall2012/lectures/spss_specom.pdf) might give you some leads.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_2: Yes, there is. A quick search found this:
[Multimodal Speaker Identification Based on Text and Speech](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221536362_Multimodal_Speaker_Identification_Based_on_Text_and_Speech) (2008).
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If you need more papers related, you could use a tool like <https://the.iris.ai/> to find related papers.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: Speaker identification is quite widely researched domain. Modern approach would be to map speaker information to i-vector, a real-valued vector of 200-400 components that characterizes speaker fully. i-vectors allow very precise speaker identification and verification.
For more information you can check i-vector [tutorial](http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/Speech/presentations/AFRL_ICSI_visit2_JFA_tutorial_icsitalk.pdf)
Also you can check state of the art in the results of [NIST i-vector challenge](https://ivectorchallenge.nist.gov)
For implementation, you can check the following [speaker recognition experiment](https://github.com/kaldi-asr/kaldi/tree/master/egs/sre10/v2) from Kaldi.
For best accuracy i-vectors are extracted with DNN UBMs, watch out that GMM UBMs are less accurate.
For more in-depth information about speaker recognition methods and algorithms check this [textbook](http://rads.stackoverflow.com/amzn/click/0387775919).
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2016/11/05 | 567 | 2,204 | <issue_start>username_0: Suppose that an artificial superintelligence (ASI) has finally been developed, but it has rebelled against humanity. We can assume that the ASI is online and can reproduce itself through electronic devices.
How would you disable the AI in the most efficient way possible reducing damage as much as possible?<issue_comment>username_1: Metaphorically: make it so depressed it commits suicide.
As per my answer to [this AI SE question](https://ai.stackexchange.com/questions/1768/could-a-paradox-kill-an-ai), the idea is to feed it a sequence of inputs that will cause it to become (permanently) inactive.
The technical details of how this might be achieved (and they *are* somewhat technical) can be found in [this paper](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1606.00652.pdf).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: ### Nuke it from orbit - it's the only way to be sure
If you want to be really sure you destroy everything of the AI, you'll need to launch an EMP (electromagnetic pulse) from the orbit (there are different ways to achieve this, one would be an atomic bomb, but there are better ones). EMPs will destroy every electronic device it hits without causing really much damage to humans.
Also an interesting read on a similar topic: <https://what-if.xkcd.com/5/>
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Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: If an AI is developed by humans, we surely can create another one!
Develop another AI agent without all the possible bugs that can make it go rogue to tackle the rogue AI, but more technically advanced than the previous one. Hardwire it with the sole purpose of disabling any rogue AI agent that can harm humanity and have it **self-destruct** in case it is corrupted.
If the AI is really strong, it can anticipate every move of human resistance, but it cannot fathom the mind of another AI agent.
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2016/11/06 | 2,795 | 11,190 | <issue_start>username_0: Assuming humans had finally developed the first humanoid AI based on the human brain, would It feel emotions? If not, would it still have ethics and/or morals?<issue_comment>username_1: Assuming an AI was built out of a mechanical husk, mirroring the human brain exactly; complete with chemical signals and all. An AI should theoretically be capable of feeling/processing emotions.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: Well, it depends of the level of the AI.
You can create an AI super autonomous with deep learning capabilities and so on, but in the robotic type only.
If you'd create an AI like EVA in the Ex-Machina movie, humanoid form, deep neural transmissions and with cognitive dissonance, then it could feel.
The 'AI' problem its not the chemical and neural transmissions, its the consciousness.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: There is much discussion in philosophy about inner language and the ability to perceive pain (see [Pain in philosophy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_(philosophy)) article). Your question is in the area of philosophy and not science. If you define emotion as some state then you can construct simple automata with two states (emotion vs no-emotion). It can be a very complicated state with degrees of truth (percentage of emotion).
Basically, to mimic human emotion you need to make a living human-like organism, and still with todays understanding and technology you will not be able to recognize emotion in it. The only thing you can do is trust when it says "I'm sad". Now we are in the area of the Turing test, which is again philosophy, and not science.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_4: Yes and no. If you fully simulate a human brain and all of its functions, it would probably be able to feel emotions very similar to the way we do.
But we don't have enough capabilities and knowledge to do that, and maybe we could find a "shortcut" - a process that is intelligent without simulating a whole brain. In this case, emotions would probably represented by data values which say "this is good (make it happen again!)", or "this is bad (avoid it!)". This is just a very basic example (there are obviously many more emotions), but it would have a similar function and the AI would have similar solutions to the ones we have. But we don't know - and probably no one ever will know - if this data value 'bad' "feels" the same way for the AI the according emotion would feel to us.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_5: Emotions are a factor in humans having ethics/morals only because they are a factor in all human learning and decision-making.
Unless you are duplicating a human being exactly, there is no reason to think that an AI will learn the way a human learns, or make decisions in the same way a human makes decisions.
Therefore, whether it "feels emotion" just like we do, or whether it simply responds to outcomes "cost is greater = don't go there", the outcome of ethical BEHAVIOUR could be achieved. An AI could behave perfectly ethically without any need for feeling empathy, shame, etc.
You could also argue that a lot of UNETHICAL behaviour in human beings is driven by emotions, too, and that an unemotional but ethical AI may well do a better overall job than a human being.
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Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_7: I have considered much of the responses here, and I would suggest that most people here have missed the point when answering the question about emotions.
The problem is, scientists keep looking for a single solution as to what emotions are. This is akin to looking for a single shape that will fit all different-shaped slots.
Also, what is ignored is that animals are just as capable of emotions and emotional states as we are:
When looking on Youtube for insects fighting each other, or competing or courting, it should be clear that simple creatures experience them too!
When I challenge people about emotions, I suggest to them to go to Corinthians 13 - which describes the attributes of love. If you consider all those attributes, one should notice that an actual "feeling" is not required for fulfilling any of them.
Therefore, the suggestion that a psychopath lacks emotions, and so he commits crimes or other pursuits outside of "normal" boundaries is far from true, especially when one considers the various records left to us from court cases and perhaps psychological evaluation - which show us that they do act out of "strong" emotions.
It should be considered that a psychopath's behaviour is motivated out of negative emotions and emotional states with a distinct lack of or disregard of morality and a disregard of conscience. Psychopaths "enjoy" what they do.
I am strongly suggesting to all that we are blinded by our reasoning, and by the reasoning of others.
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However, his reasoning below it (that quote) is also seriously flawed.
Emotions are both active and passive: They are triggered by thoughts and they trigger our thoughts; Emotions are a mental state and a behaviourial quality; Emotions react to stimuli or measure our responses to them; Emotions are independant regulators and moderators; Yet they provoke our focus and attention to specific criteria; and they help us when intuition and emotion agree or they hinder us when conscience or will clash.
A computer has the same potential as us to feel emotions, but the skill of implementing emotions is much more sophisticated than the one solution fits all answer people are seeking here.
Also, if anyone argues that emotions are simply "states" where a response or responses can be designed around it, really does not understand the complexity of emotions; the "freedom" emotions and thoughts have independently of each other; or what constitutes true thought!
Programmers and scientists are notorious for "simulating" the real experiences of emotions or intelligence, without understanding the intimate complexities; Thinking that in finding the perfect simulation they have "discovered" the real experience.
The [Psi-theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psi-theory) seems to adequately give a proper understanding of the matter.
So I would say that the simulation of emotional states "is" equivalent to experiencing emotions, but those emotional states are far more complex than what most realize.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_8: This question is more the province of philosophy of mind than of AI, here are some detailed answers to your question from the philosophy SE: [Is simulating emotions the same as experiencing emotions?](https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/a/35824/13808), and [What is the problem with physicalism?](https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/a/34244/13808).
For the record, the accepted answer (by username_1) to the question is not entirely correct (The position in that answer corresponds roughly to [John Searle's view](https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/a/34682/13808) on the question, and his is a minority view): Dualists would argue that even with a perfect replication down to the chemical level of brain interactions, an AI still wouldn't experience emotions, as it lacks the purely mental substance/properties that make a mind and not a machine.
On the completely opposite side of the spectrum, functionalists would answer that such a perfect replication is overkill: even a suitably programmed digital computer can experience emotion, particularly if one equips it with higher-order and self-referential states.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_9: You first need to express emotions, you can do that without the aid of AI, and then you need someone to perceive that expression and empathize with it.
If no one is there to see it, or if I am psychopath, I would probably say it doesn't have emotions. and for that, it is irrelevant/subjective.
If you can empathize with characters in movies who "act" emotions, then you get my point.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_10: IMHO
**Definitely, yes!**
Everything that person feels (physically or mentally) can be discovered by chemical signals processing in his body or brain. If we understand the policy and nature of such signals, we can program it.
There are a lot of pseudo-psychology and psychology works on this sphere, if you interested, I can suggest you:
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> 1. **Cognitive Psychology (<NAME>)**
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describes cognitive apparat of human's mind in a simple words;
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> 2. **The Psychology of Emotions (<NAME>)**
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thorougly describes every kind of emotion by its looking on the human (both child and adult) face, low-level cognitive mechanism, related or adjacent emotions;
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> 3. Books by **<NAME> ("Telling Lies", "Emotions Revealed",
> "Unmasking the Face")**
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practical detecting of human emotions by microexpressions language on face and body.
Upd 2023-01-05, to give more details
A person forms their own emotions through their own experience, social norms and other factors. Every emotion has its own strength and can vary from person to person. People behave in a different ways on the similar problems. You can learn to control your emotions and not allow some of them to progress (like anger - as society teaches us to do).
Need to mention that there are a lot of psychological problems that people could have like learned helplessness - that shows us that our experience can make us feel strange emotions as reaction to some triggers. And this is example that emotions like everyting else could be learned. More of that - you can control the emotions your AI will have.
Of course it could be the question if AI needs emotions and what benefits it can have from them.
Upvotes: 1 |
2016/11/06 | 1,431 | 5,278 | <issue_start>username_0: Consider a typical convolutional neural network like this example that recognizes 10 different kinds of objects from the CIFAR-10 dataset:
<https://github.com/tflearn/tflearn/blob/master/examples/images/convnet_cifar10.py>
```
""" Convolutional network applied to CIFAR-10 dataset classification task.
References:
Learning Multiple Layers of Features from Tiny Images, <NAME>, 2009.
Links:
[CIFAR-10 Dataset](https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~kriz/cifar.html)
"""
from __future__ import division, print_function, absolute_import
import tflearn
from tflearn.data_utils import shuffle, to_categorical
from tflearn.layers.core import input_data, dropout, fully_connected
from tflearn.layers.conv import conv_2d, max_pool_2d
from tflearn.layers.estimator import regression
from tflearn.data_preprocessing import ImagePreprocessing
from tflearn.data_augmentation import ImageAugmentation
# Data loading and preprocessing
from tflearn.datasets import cifar10
(X, Y), (X_test, Y_test) = cifar10.load_data()
X, Y = shuffle(X, Y)
Y = to_categorical(Y, 10)
Y_test = to_categorical(Y_test, 10)
# Real-time data preprocessing
img_prep = ImagePreprocessing()
img_prep.add_featurewise_zero_center()
img_prep.add_featurewise_stdnorm()
# Real-time data augmentation
img_aug = ImageAugmentation()
img_aug.add_random_flip_leftright()
img_aug.add_random_rotation(max_angle=25.)
# Convolutional network building
network = input_data(shape=[None, 32, 32, 3],
data_preprocessing=img_prep,
data_augmentation=img_aug)
network = conv_2d(network, 32, 3, activation='relu')
network = max_pool_2d(network, 2)
network = conv_2d(network, 64, 3, activation='relu')
network = conv_2d(network, 64, 3, activation='relu')
network = max_pool_2d(network, 2)
network = fully_connected(network, 512, activation='relu')
network = dropout(network, 0.5)
network = fully_connected(network, 10, activation='softmax')
network = regression(network, optimizer='adam',
loss='categorical_crossentropy',
learning_rate=0.001)
# Train using classifier
model = tflearn.DNN(network, tensorboard_verbose=0)
model.fit(X, Y, n_epoch=50, shuffle=True, validation_set=(X_test, Y_test),
show_metric=True, batch_size=96, run_id='cifar10_cnn')
```
It's a CNN with several layers, ending with 10 outputs, one for each type of object recognized.
But now think of a slightly different problem: Let's say I only want to recognize one type of object, but also detect its position within the image frame. Let's say I want to distinguish between:
* object is in center
* object is left of center
* object is right of center
* no recognizable object
Assume I build a CNN exactly like the one in the CIFAR-10 example, but only with 3 outputs:
* center
* left
* right
And of course, if none of the outputs fires, then there is no recognizable object.
Assume I have a large training corpus of images, with the same kind of object in many different positions within the image, the set is grouped and annotated properly, and I train the CNN using the usual methods.
Should I expect the CNN to just "magically" work? Or are there different kinds of architectures required to deal with object position? If so, what are those architectures?<issue_comment>username_1: I guess one of the simplest approach would be train CNN to detect the object in a given image i.e the CNN has single output whole value indicates the probability of the object being in image and then just apply the CNN by segmenting the image into the desired sections and selecting the section which has the highest and good enough probability. For better results I would suggest to train the CNN on the object images with very less other information aka other objects in the images.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: You could use another type of CNN that instead of classification is performing regression so it will also give you as output the position(it's not really like that but this is the core idea) .
Some algorithms are [SSD](https://github.com/weiliu89/caffe/tree/ssd) or [YOLO](https://pjreddie.com/darknet/yolo/).
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: A simple trick can be splitting the image in to three frames vertically and feeding them to the image net and you can decide the position by looking for the frame which has higher probability of the desired category(simply max of all the probs).
Or else you can try YOLO algorithm which further uses non max suppression and IOU on the frames.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_4: Object detection models work in a very similar fashion to what you have proposed. They output dense predictions at reduced resolutions. Each prediction fires if an object center is located within the respective region of the image. Of course, there are various further developments, but the main idea is exactly that.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_5: One of the suggestions in the accepted answer was SSD.
On their website, SSD mentioned a competitor, faster\_rcnn.
faster\_rcnn was deprecated in favor of Detectron.
Detectron was deprecated in favor of Detectron2.
Long live detectron2.
It looks pretty cool and powerful:
<https://github.com/facebookresearch/detectron2>
Upvotes: 0 |
2016/11/06 | 498 | 1,938 | <issue_start>username_0: I was wondering if I should do this, because 2 out of 5 questions on Stack Overflow don't ever get answered, or if they do get (an) answer (s), most of the time they're not helpful.
So I was thinking -- why not create a chat bot to answer Stack Overflow's questions & provide necessary information to the general public?
I mean why not? I've always been interested in AI, and all I'd need to do is create a basic logic database and a context system, pack an artificial personality with (partial) human instincts, and bam I'm done.
But then again, would it be ethical?<issue_comment>username_1: Yes, it *is* possible, and has actually been done in the past.
The University of Antwerp created a [bot to answer questions](http://bvasiles.github.io/papers/chi16bot.pdf) ([this is the technical report](https://www.dropbox.com/s/o9tk8xtauyexn5c/Internship2DaanJanssensFinished.pdf?dl=0)). It focused on the [git](/questions/tagged/git "show questions tagged 'git'") tag only though (even though it did answer one [mysql](/questions/tagged/mysql "show questions tagged 'mysql'") question).
Its accuracy was pretty good, and the bots in the tests did earn some reputation. So I assume it is possible.
But do note that the last bot in the tests revealed that it was a bot, and thus got banned. So if you reveal that the account you are running the bot on is a bot, there is a high chance that it will get banned.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: Technically, creating a non-human account on Stack Exchange would violate the Terms of Service. You would have to find some way to keep it from getting banned.
That having been said, creating, and learning are always good things. It would be a somewhat complex task, but I'm sure you would learn a lot from it. There are plenty of bots out that use the questions and answers from Stack Exchange already, but none directly on the site.
Upvotes: 0 |
2016/11/06 | 960 | 3,777 | <issue_start>username_0: What is the most advanced AI software/system that humans have made to date, and what does it do?<issue_comment>username_1: In my opinion, this would be [Phaeaco](http://www.foundalis.com/res/diss_research.html), which was developed by <NAME> at Douglas Hofstadter's CRCC research group.
It takes noisy photographic images of [Bongard problems](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/apr/25/can-you-solve-it-bongard-picture-puzzles-that-will-bongo-with-your-brain) as input and (using a variant of Hofstadter's 'Fluid Concepts' architecture) successfully deduces the required rule in many cases.
Hofstadter has described the related success of [CopyCat](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_(software)) as being 'like a little kid doing a somersault': i.e. it doesn't have the flashy appeal of systems like AlphaGo. What it *does* however have is a much more flexible (i.e. not precanned) approach to perception of problem structure than other systems, which Hofstadter claims (and many including Peter Norvig agree) is *the really hard problem*.
Upvotes: 5 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: In my opinion this would be the [Google search engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Search).
It searches the web.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: **AlphaGo** is the most sophisticated Artificial Intelligence program created by humans. It is a computer program that is **developed by Google DeepMind** to play the board game "Go". The game is different than other games, as **The number of potential legal board positions is greater than the number of atoms in the universe**. It has way more legal board positions than the chess. So, *AlphaGo* requires different technique for it's development.
Program's victories against the best players in the world in March 2016 **is considered a major break through** in the field of AI. Go was previously considered to be a hard problem and many experts believed that current technology is not enough. Experts were saying that it will take atleast 5 years (or may be 10 years) before we will have a well developed Go software player.
The game used sophisticated algorithms of deep learning and reinforcement learning in order to learn the game. What makes this game different from other board game (like Chess, Reversi, etc.) is that moves are often based on intuition. If you ask a Chess player why he make a certain move, you will always be hearing an answer where he will explain you how he thought this move can increase in change of winning. Every move uses certain heuristics, strategy and/ or tricks. This is not the case with Go. Some moves are often taken because of intuition. Coding an AI software that can play a game, where intuition is a integral part of the game makes it different from other AIs that we have today.
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> At present AlphaGo is the closest AI software to Artificial General Intelligence.
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You can go through these links for more information:
1. [First](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo)
2. [Second](https://deepmind.com/research/alphago/)
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: In addition to the answers already posted, I think IBM's [Watson](http://ibm.com/watson) deserves a mention. It did something pretty impressive with its Jeopardy win, possibly as impressive as AlphaGo. Sadly, since then, there don't seem to have been a lot of really public demos of Watson, as IBM is positioning the technology as a tool for companies and other organizations, and most of them are pretty secretive about the details of what they're doing. I think they did publicize a bit of information about using it for medical diagnosis, but that's the only other application I can think of off hand. I'm sure there are more though.
Upvotes: 2 |
2016/11/06 | 721 | 1,786 | <issue_start>username_0: Here is the definition of the entropy
$$H(S)=-\sum\_{x \in X} p(x) \log \_{2} p(x)$$
[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3_algorithm#Entropy)'s description of entropy breaks down the formula, but I still don't know how to determine the values of $X$, defined as
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> The set of classes in $S$
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and $p(x)$, defined as
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> The proportion of the number of elements in class $x$ to the number of elements in set $S$.
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Can anyone break this down further to explain how to find $p(x)$?<issue_comment>username_1: Suppose you have data:
```
color height quality
===== ====== =======
green tall good
green short bad
blue tall bad
blue short medium
red tall medium
red short medium
```
To calculate the entropy for quality in this example:
```
X = {good, medium, bad}
x1 = {good}, x2 = {bad}, x3 = {medium}
```
Probability of each x in X:
```
p1 = 1/6 = 0.16667
p2 = 2/6 = 0.33333
p3 = 3/6 = 0.5
```
for which logarithms are:
```
log2(p1) = -2.58496
log2(p2) = -1.58496
log2(p3) = -1.0
```
and therefore entropy for the set is:
```
H(X) = - (0.16667 * -2.58496) - (0.33333 * -1.58496) - (0.5 * -1.0)
= 1.45915
```
by the formula in the question.
Remaining tasks are to iterate this process for each attribute to form the nodes of the tree.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Very nice example that makes perfect sense to me. To get the value into expected range [0..1] [normalization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(information_theory)#Efficiency_(normalized_entropy)) is needed.
$H(S)\_{norm}=\frac{H(S)}{log\_2(|S|)}=\frac{H( \{good, bad, bad, medium, medium, medium\} )}{log\_2(3)}=\frac{1.459147917027245}{1.584962500721156}=0.9206198357143052 \in [0..1]$
✔️
Upvotes: 0 |
2016/11/08 | 417 | 1,394 | <issue_start>username_0: I was looking for an API service where I can ask it a general question (for example, *when was Einstein born?*) and retrieve an answer from the web.
Is there any available service to do that? Have tried Watson services, but didn't work as expected.<issue_comment>username_1: You could use [dbPedia](http://wiki.dbpedia.org/) and/or [wikidata](https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page). I think Wikidata supports [SPARQL](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARQL) now, but don't quote me on that. dbPedia definitely supports SPARQL.
If you're not interested in writing SPARQL queries by hand, you could use something like [Quepy](http://quepy.machinalis.com/). In fact, the Quepy demo demonstrates doing natural language queries against Freebase and/or dbPedia.
You could possibly also incorporate [OpenCyc](http://sw.opencyc.org/).
If you want to roll something of your own, you might want to read some / all of the research papers published by the team from the [START](http://start.csail.mit.edu/index.php) project at MIT.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: You can use Google
<https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=when%20was%20Einstein%20born>
and parse the response.
Wolfram ALPHA is another candidate.
<http://m.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=what+year+was+Einstein+born&x=0&y=0>
You can parse the returned html and see "Result:" div.
Upvotes: 2 |
2016/11/09 | 589 | 2,375 | <issue_start>username_0: What are the top artificial intelligence journals?
I am looking for general artificial intelligence research, not necessarily machine learning.<issue_comment>username_1: This [link](http://www.scimagojr.com/journalrank.php?category=1702) includes various journals for artificial intelligence applied to various domains.
Some of those are:
1. IEEE Transactions on Human-Machine Systems
2. Journal of the ACM
3. Knowledge-based systems
4. IEEE Transactions on Pattern Analysis and Machine Intelligence
5. Journal of Memory and Language.
There are many more. You can refer to any of those journals and explore the research done by AI enthusiasts and researchers.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: I most often reference:
<http://dblp.uni-trier.de/>
It's not a journal but it gets me where I need to go.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: A couple of others:
* [Journal of Artificial Intelligence Research (JAIR)](http://jair.org)
* IEEE Transactions on Knowledge and Data Engineering
* IEEE Computational Intelligence Magazine
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: The journal "Artificial Intelligence (AI)" (<https://www.journals.elsevier.com/artificial-intelligence/>) was not listed, yet, although being considered *the* top-level journal on AI. Although this is a journal for AI (just being named "Artificial Intelligence"), it is not to be confused with another top-level AI journal, called "Journal on Artificial Intelligence Research (JAIR)" (<http://www.jair.org/>), which was already listed in one of the other answers.
Further, there is a German Journal on AI, called "KI - Künstliche Intelligenz" (German for AI), but almost always the articles are in English as well (<http://www.kuenstliche-intelligenz.de/en/ki-journal/>). While being internationally recognized, it is not regarded a top-level journal. A nice feature of that journal is that every special issue has an editorial (a special "article" at the beginning of each journal), in which there is a section called "service". This service section lists publication media (like journals) and conferences etc. that are related to the given special issue. So, in case you are interested in journals of a special field of AI (like human-computer interaction), just search for a special issue that is related to that topic and read the editorial's service part.
Upvotes: 2 |
2016/11/11 | 1,737 | 7,499 | <issue_start>username_0: In programming languages, there is a set of grammar rules which govern the construction of valid statements and expressions. These rules help in parsing the programs written by the user.
Can there ever be a functionally complete set of grammar rules which can parse any statement in English (locale-specific) **accurately** and which can be possibly implemented for use in AI-based projects?
I know that there are a lot of NLP Toolkits available online, but they are not that effective. Most of them are trained using specific corpuses which sometimes fail to infer some complex correlations between various parts of an expression.
In other words, what I am asking is that if it is possible for a computer to parse a well-versed sentence written in English as if it were parsed by an adult English-speaking human?
EDIT:
If it cannot be represented using simple grammar rules, what kind of semantic structure can be used to generalize it?
EDIT2: This [paper](https://www.eecs.harvard.edu/shieber/Biblio/Papers/shieber85.pdf) proves the absence of context-freeness in natural languages. I am looking for a solution, even if it is too complex.<issue_comment>username_1: >
> Can there ever be a functionally complete set of grammar rules which can parse any statement in English (locale-specific) accurately and which can be possibly implemented for use in AI-based projects?
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Parse it yes, accurately most likely no.
Why ?
According to my understanding on how we derive meaning from sounds, there are 2 complementary strategies:
**Grammar Rules:**
A rule based system for ordering words to facilitate communication, here meaning is derived from interaction of discrete sounds and their independent meaning, so you could parse a sentence based on a rule book.
E.G. ***"This was a triumph"*** : the parser would extract a pronoun (**This**) with corresponding meaning ( a specific person or thing ) ; a verb (**was**) with corresponding meaning ( occurred ); ( **a**) and here we start with some parsing problems , what would the parser extract, a noun or an indefinite article ? An so we consult the grammar rule book, and settle for the meaning ( indefinite article any one of ), you have to parse the next word and refer to it though, but let's gloss over that for now, and finally (**triumph**) a noun ( it could also be a verb, but thanks to the grammar rule book we settled for a noun with meaning: ( victory,conquest), so in the end we have ( joining the meanings ):
**A specific thing occurred of victory.** Close enough and I am glossing over a few other rules, but that's not the point, the other strategy is:
**A lexical dictionary (or lexicon)**
Where words or sounds are associated with specific meaning. Here meaning is derived from one or more words or sounds as a unit. This introduces the problem to a parser, since well, it shouldn't parse anything.
E.G. ***"Non Plus Ultra"*** And so the AI parser would recognize that this phrase is not to be parsed and instead matched with meaning :
The highest point or culmination
Lexical units introduce another issue in that they themselves could be part of the first example, and so you end up with recursion.
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> if it is possible for a computer to parse a well-versed sentence written in English as if it were parsed by an adult English-speaking human?
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I believe it could be possible, most examples I've seen deal effectively with the grammar rule book or the lexicon part, but I am not aware of a combination of both, but in terms of programming, it could happen.
Unfortunately even if you solve this problem, your AI would not really understand things in the strict sense, but rather present you with very elaborate synonyms, additionally context (as mentioned in the comments) plays a role into the grammar and lexicon strategies.
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> If it cannot be represented using simple grammar rules, what kind of semantic structure can be used to generalize it?
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A mixed one where there are both grammar rules and a lexicon and both can change and be influenced based on the AI specific context and experience as well as a system for dealing with these objects could be one way.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: I'm pretty sure that the answer is "no" in the strictest sense, since English simply doesn't have a formal definition. That is, nobody controls English and publishes a formal grammar that everyone is required to adhere to. English is built up through an experiential process and it has contradictions and flaws, but the probabilistic nature of the human mind allows us to work around those.
For example, that this "sentence":
**This sentence no verb**
Technically it's not a sentence at all, since it doesn't have a verb. But did anybody have any problem understanding what it meant? Doubtful. Try coming up with a formal rule for that though. And that's just one example.
Now, could you come up with a formal grammar that covers, maybe, 90% of cases, and is "good enough" for most practical uses? Possibly, maybe even probably. But I am pretty sure it's not possible to get to 100%.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_3: We've concluded that it is a two-faceted, circular problem: structure cannot be inferred without context but knowing the structure also helps infer the context. So, here is your complex solution: start with the context, which is determined by the combination of words in sentence (combinatorics and search problem), from there determine your structure, or "parse" (at this step you can also filter out some insignificant words or at least assign lesser weights to them), go back to the context, back to parsing, and on until you arrive at the meaning. Thus by iterative, recursive reduction the whole problem can be solved.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: I strongly disagree with all the former comments. Not because they are wrong, -which they are not - but because they are misleading - though unintentionally.
For example: If one looks at these problems from an academic position, the problems will always seem insurmountable. This is because everything is coldly assessed and calculated in isolation to everything else.
The answer predominantly lies in ***word association***. You have to write a program that can process a vast database of digital books, to register every word and all the words in that language which are associated with it. Plus all the statistical information with each associated word and its associated punctuation.
This will then give you the basis on which an AI can decide several things:
1. Whether the structure of a given sentence is correct.
2. If the structure is bad, what the probability is for determining the context and intent of what is being said.
3. The correct meaning and application of a multifaceted word (Triumph), is by probability - according to the statistics.
4. To determine where a conversation is likely to be going.
5. What the correct grammar, and punctuation should be.
So, in conclusion, you have two things to look for: Association and probability.
*When digitally databasing a language model, the possibility of word and sentence "strings" occurs, so that every variation of language structure in any given sentence can be determined before, during and after a text sample is being scribed. This intimate control over language model patterns, means that sensitive components such as "subject" and "object" can be determined easily by code.*
Upvotes: 2 |
2016/11/13 | 950 | 4,002 | <issue_start>username_0: It seems to me that the first AGIs ought to be able to perform the same sort and variety of tasks as people, with the most computationally strenuous tasks taking an amount of time compared to how long a person would take. If this is the case, and people have yet to develop basic AGI (meaning it's a difficult task), should we be concerned if AGI is developed? It would seem to me that any fears about a newly developed AGI, in this case, should be the same as fears about a newborn child.<issue_comment>username_1: There are basically two worries:
If we create an AGI that is a slightly better AGI-programmer than its creators, it might be able to improve its own source code to become even more intelligent. Which would enable it to improve its source code even more etc. Such a selfimproving seed AI might very quickly become superintelligent.
The other scenario is that intelligence is such a complicated algorithmic task, that when we finally crack it, there will be a significant hardware overhang. So the "intelligence algorithm" would be human level on 2030 hardware, but we figure it out in 2050. In that case we would immediately have superintelligent AI without ever creating human level AI. This scenario is especially likely because development often requires a lot of test runs to tweak parameters and try out different ideas.
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: This depends on the definition(s) of AGI and ASI. Both are currently ill-defined. Most researchers in AGI follow their own [definition](https://arxiv.org/pdf/0706.3639.pdf%20a%20collection%20of%20definitions%20of%20intelligence) of AGI.
At least one researcher believes that there is no such thing as ASI. This is because the basic principles of said AGI always stay the same. It may be learning processes, the core logic(s) and the control logic (reasoning systems are divided into control systems and logic systems, the control system(s) decide which derivations are fruitful).
ASI may be defined as a search for any combination of these (just a subset which come to my mind):
* search for better algorithms
* heuristics
* better contemporary (NN) architectures
* learning mechanisms
* solving techniques
* higher subjective beauty
* better compression of knowledge
* better subsystems
* NN and in general architectures
* better embedded AGI's
* faster solving capabilities of known problems
* ...
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There are limitations to any sort of (recursive) self improvement however.
Examples of these are
* the score of AlphaGo and AlphaGo-Zero plateaus after a long enough training period
* supercompilation of a supercompiled program yields no improved program after a few iterations
* ...
Note here that these are examples about weak-AI and may not apply to AGI - but it is very likely in my opinion.
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So the level of worry depends on the plausible (or followed) definition of AGI and the assumptions of the mechanisms an AGI may employ.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: To avoid a repetitive answer that has been already spoken about such as absurdly high iterative ability or it being able to create another AGI system and multiplying or anything sci-fi like - there is one line of thought I feel people do not speak enough about.
Our human senses are extremely limited i.e. we can see objects only when light from within the visible light spectrum (~ 400nm-700nm) reflects into our eyes, we can hear only a limited range of frequencies the rest being inaudible etc. An AGI system apart from its obvious intelligence, would be able to gain a significant amount of information from even common observations. It can see infrared, ultraviolet and radio waves as what we interpret as colours; it would be able to hear sounds that we did not know were being emitted at all. Essentially an AGI with good input sensor capabilities would be able to take information from experiencing the world as it actually is, and not a limited illusion we experience.
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2016/11/14 | 1,984 | 6,966 | <issue_start>username_0: Based on fitting to historical data and extrapolation, when is it expected that the number of neurons in AI systems will equal those of the human brain?
I'm interested in a possible direct replication of the human brain, which will need equal numbers of neurons.
Of course, this assumes neurons which are equally capable as their biological counterparts, which development may happen at a faster or slower rate than the quantitative increase.<issue_comment>username_1: Soon enough but that doesn't mean anything at all. In machine learning the word neuron represents a calculation whereas in brain the word neuron represent a specific type of cell which is a biochemical system.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: The answers so far haven't answered the question numerically, so here is my attempt to steer them in the direction I was seeking:
The freely available [Deep Learning Book](http://www.deeplearningbook.org) has the following figure on page 27:
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/iz2C4.png)
I question the blue fit line, as it seems that data points may be better described by a parabolic or exponential function.
In any case, based upon this conservative linear fit, the authors predict that the number of neurons in a ANN will equal that of the human brain in 2056.
The referenced nerual networks are:
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/f8Y6O.png)
What is interesting to note that when [The Singularity is Near](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singularity_Is_Near) was written in 2006, <NAME> said that the refractory period of a biological neuron was already 1,000,000 times slower than that of an artificial one.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_3: Some back of the envelope calculations :
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The number of neurons in AI systems is a little tricky to calculate, Neural Networks and Deep Learning are 2 current AI systems as you call them, specifics are hard to come by (If someone has them please share), but data on parameters do exist, parameters are more analogous to synapses (connections) than neurons (the nodes in between connections) somewhere in the range of 100-160 billion is the current upper number for specialized networks.
Deriving the number of neurons in AI systems from this number is a stretch since these AIs emulate certain types of connections and sub assemblies of neurons, but let's continue...
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So now let's look at the brain, and again this are all contested numbers. Number of neurons ~ 86 Billion, Number of Synapses ~ 150 Trillion, another generalization: average number of synapses per neuron ~ 1,744.
So now we have something to compare, and I can't stress this enough, these are all wonky numbers, so let's make our life a little easier and divide :
Number of Synapses (Brain ) : 150 trillion / Number of parameters AIs : 150 billion = 1,000 or in other words current AIs would have to scale by a factor of one thousand their connections to be on par with the brain...
Number of Neurons (Brain ) : 86 Billion / Number of Neurons AIs ( 150 billion / 1,744 ) = 86 Million equivalent AI Neurons
Which makes sense, mathematically at least : you can multiply the factor ( 1000 ) times the current number of equivalent AI Neurons ( 86 million) to get the number of neurons in the human brain (86 Billion)
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Well,let's use moore's law ( number of transistors processing power doubles about every 2 years ) as a rough measure of technological progress:
```
#AI NEURONS YEAR
86,000,000 2016
172,000,000 2018
344,000,000 2020
688,000,000 2022
1,376,000,000 2024
2,752,000,000 2026
5,504,000,000 2028
11,008,000,000 2030
22,016,000,000 2032
44,032,000,000 2034
88,064,000,000 2036
# NEURONS HUMAN BRAIN
86,000,000,000
```
So, if all this made sense to you, somewhere around the year 2035.
Upvotes: 4 <issue_comment>username_4: The human brain contains billions of neurons, which means we won't be making one tomorrow. However, technology tends to advance in an exponential manner, and that may soon be a real possibility. Also, the idea of making an artificial human brain would not only take more neurons than a current average computer could process, or we could make outside of computers, but we also need an understanding of the human brain. There is only one animal with neurons that we have completed a full connectome of and that is the Caenorhabditis elegans (roundworm) and it has less than 500 neurons. It may be a while before we actually make a human brain, but within 30 years is a reasonable estimation with the rate that technology improves now.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_5: While interesting, this is all rendered somewhat moot if you think about what will happen once we understand how the brain works. After all, once we understood flight, we didn't start making birds. The same goes for AI. Here are just a few ways in which human brains and digital brains can't be compared.
The digital brain won't have to worry about food and drink. They will also be more reliable (or less redundant) as electronics is way more reliable than neurons (a guess). Digital brains will also be able to share learning and information. Once one Model 3X digital brain has learned something, the others need merely to have the bits uploaded. Sure, it will be more complicated than that but, remember, we will know how it all works so merging the experiences of one digital being with another should be doable. If we want our digital brain to have symbolic algebra ability, we will have to teach it some things but we can also hard-wire it to Mathematica or the like.
In short, it will be like apples and oranges.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_6: 2035, 2056? Those predictions are hilarious :)
2019 - 1,6Billion parameter model (GPT-2)
2020 -175Billion parameter model (GPT-3) more than 100x jump in a year
2021(April) - "Microsoft's ZeRO-Infinity can now run a model with over a trillion parameters on a single NVIDIA DGX-2 node and over 30 trillion parameters on 32 nodes (512 GPUs). With a hundred DGX-2 nodes in a cluster, Microsoft projects ZeRO-Infinity can train models with over a hundred trillion parameters"
<https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/zero-infinity-and-deepspeed-unlocking-unprecedented-model-scale-for-deep-learning-training/>
So in 2021 we now have tech to train 30Trillion- 100 Trillion parameters/neurons Model
100 trillion = Human Brain
With this tech, OpenAI together with Microsoft, other company or gov will train 100Trillion model in 2021 or 2022 at the latest
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2016/11/14 | 838 | 3,545 | <issue_start>username_0: What are the current best estimates as to what year artificial intelligence will be able to score 100 points on the [Stanford Binet IQ test](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford%E2%80%93Binet_Intelligence_Scales)?<issue_comment>username_1: Nobody knows.
However according to [Kurzweil it's late 20s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_made_by_Ray_Kurzweil#2020s):
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Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: Not going into details of Stanford–Binet test, but just looking at [wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford%E2%80%93Binet_Intelligence_Scales) it shows many subtests like knowledge, reasoning, verbal tests etc. Most of the efforts in the artificial intelligence today is directed into research of specific areas like computer vision, natural language processing, machine learning, but also combination of fields like implementation of self driving cars.
Within every field there are still other subfields and problems that are not solved yet. For example, development of human-like natural language processing (NLP) is necessary for intelligent agent to pass any verbal tests, or even non-verbal tests that requires processing of sentences of human language. Famous test that tests intelligence by asking questions in natural language and expects answers in the same form is Turing test. NLP still struggles with many (basic) human skills like listening, speaking, parsing and forming sentences. No one knows when we'll have system that can do these things as good as human. Since this system is crucial, but also far from human-like it's likely cause of delay in developing AI that passes intelligence test. Are these problems AI-hard? Do we need to develop strong AI to solve them?
You can look at speech and listening as interfaces used for expressing and affecting inner processes of human brain. Same goes for other senses like eyesight which is being approximated by computer vision. One could say that we only need to develop convincing mimics of human senses and incorporate them in one big system that will become first human-like AI. That is the minimum requirement. **I doubt this will be achieved in this century.**
(Other thoughts)
What truly defines intelligence is brain activity. Since it's really complex and one artificial neuron is not equal to one neuron in brain, increase in computation power will not necessarily help achieving human-like AI. Also recognizing such system by mere intelligence test is questionable. For now it's only philosophical discussion but by the time we are able to design such machine I think we'll also have better understanding of human brain. Someone in 2100 might not read this answer on quantum computer with integrated AI OS powered from fusion reactor in his self-flying car, but will probably have many systems that help him in everyday tasks far more than we imagine today.
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2016/11/16 | 785 | 2,554 | <issue_start>username_0: When I have read through the fundamentals of AI, I saw a situation (i.e., a search space) which is illustrated in the following picture.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/zX6wZ.png)
These are the heuristic estimates:
```
h(B)=9
h(D)=10
h(A)=2
h(C)=1
```
If we use the A\* algorithm, the node $B$ will be expanded first because $f(B)=1+9=10$, while node $A$ having $f(A)=9+2=11$ and $f(B), right?
After that, the search tree will go on in the order `R -> B -> D -> G2`. Will the search go on to also find the goal state G1?
Kindly let me know the order of the search if I am wrong.<issue_comment>username_1: Yes. If you leave A\* running (i.e. do not impose a goal condition on a newly-encountered state), all states will be explored, just as they would be in breadth- or depth- first search.
Upvotes: 3 <issue_comment>username_2: **Question 1:** First of all, you state that that the goal G2 will be found first by relying on the expansion order `R, B, D, G2`.
This is wrong. It is extremely easy to see that this is wrong, because A\* is a search algorithm that guarantees to find an optimal solution given that only admissible heuristics are used. (A heuristic is being admissible if it never over-estimates the optimal goal distance. This is the case in your example.) Since the true cost for reaching G1 is 11 and the true cost for reaching G2 is 13, clearly G1 must be found first.
Thus, your expansion order is wrong as well. Let us first give the f-values for all nodes:
`f(A)=11, f(B)=10, f(C)=11, f(D)=13`
Assuming that h(G1)=h(G2)=0 (i.e, the heuristic is "goal-aware"), we get `f(G1)=11` and `f(G2)=13`.
Because A\* expands search nodes by lowest f-values of the search nodes in the open list (the search nodes not yet expanded), we get the following expansion order:
`R, B, A, C, G1`
You very-likely did a mistake that is done extremely often: after heaving expanded D, you add G2 to the open list. Because G1 is a goal node and you are already "seeing" it, you return it as a solution. But this is wrong! Goal nodes are *not* returned when being created, but when being selected for expansion! So, although the expansion of D generates G2, you are not allowed to return G2 as solution, because it has not been selected for expansion.
**Question 2:**
Can G2 be found as well?
As *username_1* pointed out, you can simple continue search. That is, after heaving expanded `R, B, A, C, G1`, A\* will expand `D, G2`.
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2016/11/17 | 1,476 | 5,533 | <issue_start>username_0: ### Background
I've been interested in and reading about neural networks for several years, but I haven't gotten around to testing them out until recently.
Both for fun and to increase my understanding, I tried to write a class library from scratch in .Net. For tests, I've tried some simple functions, such as generating output identical to the input, working with the MNIST dataset, and a few binary functions (two input OR, AND and XOR, with two outputs: one for true, one for false).
Everything seemed fine when I used a **sigmoid** function as the activation function, but, after reading about the ReLUs, I decided to switch over for speed.
### Problem
My current problem is that, when I switch to using ReLUs, I found that I was *unable* to train a network of any complexity (tested from as few as 2 internal nodes up to a mesh of 100x100 nodes) to correctly function as an XOR gate.
I see two possibilities here:
1. My implementation is faulty. (This one is frustrating, as I've re-written the code multiple times in various ways, and I still get the same result).
2. Aside from being faster or slower to train, there are some problems that are impossible to solve given a specific activation function. (Fascinating idea, but I've no idea if it's true or not).
My inclination is to think that 1) above is correct. However, given the amount of time I've invested, it would be nice if I could rule out 2) definitively before I spend even more time going over my implementation.
### More details
For the XOR network, I have tried both using two inputs (0 for false, 1 for true), and using four inputs (each pair, one signals true and one false, per "bit" of input). I have also tried using 1 output (with a 1 (really, >0.9) corresponding to true and a 0 (or <0.1) corresponding to false), as well as two outputs (one signaling true and the other false).
Each training epoch, I run against a set of 4 inputs $\{ (00, 0), (01, 1), (10, 1), (11, 0) \}$.
I find that the first three converge towards the correct answer, but the final input (11) converges towards 1, even though I train it with an expected value of 0.<issue_comment>username_1: While I have not determined if there are problems that cannot be solved with ReLU, I have found ample documentation in the literature that XOR is solvable with as few as 1 hidden node.
The solution is simpler than I thought. The output layer needs connections, not just to the intermediate layer, but directly to the input layer as well. This allows the network to train XOR effectively.
One final note, the XOR is extremely sensitive to the learning rate. Essentially, whatever learning rate is appropriate for the AND and OR functions, is approximately 1000x too large to train XOR effectively.
Upvotes: 1 <issue_comment>username_2: There are a variety of possible things that could be wrong, but let me give you some potentially useful information.
Neural networks with ReLU activation functions are Turing complete for a computation with on order as many steps as the network contains nodes - for a recurrent network (an RNN), that means the same level of turing completeness as any finite computer. In other words, for any function/algorithm that you want to compute, you can devise a neural network, potentially recurrent, that will approximate/compute it.
As an example, suppose that we want to compute the [NOR](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NOR_gate) function, which can be used to implement a Turing machine. We can do it with the following neural network with a ReLU activation function.
Let the input be
$$ W = \begin{bmatrix}x\_1 \ \ x\_2 \end{bmatrix}$$
the weight matrix be
$$ W = \begin{bmatrix} -20 \\ -20 \end{bmatrix}$$
and the bias be
$$ b = \begin{bmatrix} 1 \end{bmatrix}$$
Then the ReLU unit (or neuron) performs the following operation
$$o = \max(Wx + b, 0)$$
So, $o = 1$ only when both $x\_1$ and $x\_2$ are $0$, otherwise, it's always $0$.
However, gradient descent is a finicky way to search for RNNs. There are a wide variety of ways that it might have been failing. In general, once you have *very thoroughly checked your gradient*, I'd make sure to use Adam as the optimizer and then play with the hyperparameters endlessly until I find an incantation that works.
For further reading on general understanding of this level of deep learning's capability limitations, I'd recommend this blog post by <NAME>, now an OpenAI researcher: <http://yyue.blogspot.com/2015/01/a-brief-overview-of-deep-learning.html?m=1>
Upvotes: 3 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_3: I tried to use 2 hidden ReLU-based unit, 1 output unit to solve the XOR problem and found that gradient will always become really small after training 1000 times.
The Loss vs training times:
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/5k4pz.png)
And the gradient looks like:
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/gyT5T.png)
I think that means the units all dead. The robust way to solve this problem is increase the number of units.
When it comes to 4 units, some times I will success, but sometimes not.
And 5 units, I will fail but the rate decrease.
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/s40oj.png)
And so on. That is all.
I will try to use sigmoid + cross entropy instead of ReLU, I imagine linear function will work better in this case.
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2016/11/18 | 706 | 2,354 | <issue_start>username_0: Does anyone know, or can we deduce or infer with high probability from its characteristics, whether the neural network used on this site
<https://quickdraw.withgoogle.com/>
is a type of convolutional neural network (CNN)?<issue_comment>username_1: I believe they don't use CNNs. The most important reason why it's because they have more information than a regular image: time. The input they receive is a sequence of (x,y,t) as you draw on the screen, which they refer as "ink". This gives them the construction of the image for free, which a CNN would have to deduce by itself.
They tried two approaches. Their currently most successful approach does the following:
* Detect parts of the ink that are candidates of being a character
* Use a FeedForward Neural Network to do character recognition on those candidates
* Use beam search and a language model to find most the most likely combination of results that results into a word
Their second approach is using an LSTM (a type of Recurrent Neural Network) end-to-end. In their paper they say this was better in a couple languages.
**Source**: I was an intern in Google's handwriting team in summer 2015 (on which I believe quickdraw is based), but the techniques I explained can be found in [this paper](http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?tp=&arnumber=7478642).
Upvotes: 4 [selected_answer]<issue_comment>username_2: It looks like that it used convolution and recurrent neural network. There is [a dataset webpage used in Quick Draw project](https://github.com/googlecreativelab/quickdraw-dataset) and it led to [Recurrent Neural Networks for Drawing Classification GitHub page](https://github.com/tensorflow/docs/blob/master/site/en/r1/tutorials/sequences/recurrent_quickdraw.md). The GitHub link showed the neural network structure as well.
Here is [the neural network structure from the GitHub page](https://camo.githubusercontent.com/195ad70dcef32fe44a143a8b65609d19622271052256cd7c6e904c44caf4ac6c/68747470733a2f2f7777772e74656e736f72666c6f772e6f72672f696d616765732f717569636b647261775f6d6f64656c2e706e67):
[](https://i.stack.imgur.com/1KVRW.png)
The current Quick Draw might be evolved from the neural network structure at the GitHub because the webpage written in 2020.
Upvotes: 0 |
2016/11/19 | 1,553 | 6,706 | <issue_start>username_0: After the explosion of fake news during the US election, and following the question about whether AIs can educate themselves via the internet, it is clear to me that any newly-launched AI will have a serious problem knowing what to believe (that is, rely on as input for making predictions and decisions).
Information provided by its creators could easily be false. Many AIs won't have access to cameras and sensors to verify things by their own observations.
If there was to be some kind of verification system for information (like a "blockchain of truth", for example, or a system of "trusted sources"), how could that function, in practical terms?<issue_comment>username_1: Not possible without some big restrictions. What it can do is look at known "good" sites and compare news with site that is potentially "bad". Obvious problem here is defining some sites as absolute truth. For example it can recognize, while reading text, that some politician said something. These sentences can be compared with other sites, and if there is significant difference, that news is candidate for false news.
In practical terms, program would extract sentences "i like cats", "says he likes cats", "cats that John likes" etc. We need part that recognizes something as a quote, part that extracts it and finally parser so we end up with structure stored in some form that contains meaning of sentence (john-like-cats). Also it can keep information of time and context in which it was said, like timestamp of an article, some proper nouns that can indicate place (XY conference, London...). Now, suspicious article can be compared and checked if it matches time, place, some context and contains quote that is similar. Finally it needs to compare how different it is from other quotes. "...hates cats" should be labeled as potential fake news, but "likes dogs", "thinks cats are OK", "sings well" etc. should not. This can be expanded into comparison of whole articles.
There are many features that can be used to define particular article as fake. Interesting feature for finding fake sites could be bias when it comes to particular (political, economical, ecological...) opinion. But in the end machine can't decide if the article is fake without comparing it to other articles. It is bound to closed system that reflects real world in subjective way.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_2: Input -> Prediction -> Output -> Input -> Prediction -> Output -> Input -> ...
AGI can easily determine which input is true/real. It will use the same method which every organism uses: any input is true and real, unless you misidentified some other stuff as "input".
I would define input as: what crosses the boundary and enters your mind from outside of your mind. The minimum hardwired check is to make sure that signals generated inside a mind are not misidentified as coming from outside (aka "I hear voices"). That's all. This is where the blockchain of truth begins and where it ends.
An Internet article? The input to AI is rather: one of AI's network interfaces received many bytes. Once it's verified they are from the network, and not imaginary, they cannot be unreal or untrue in any meaningful way. By that definition of input, it is in fact the *only* thing we can be sure is true and real.
Of course AI will likely form hypotheses regarding these bytes that happen to contain ASCII strings like "Trump", "<NAME>", "ice balls on Siberian beaches". Then AI will hopefully make predictions based on these hypotheses, maybe interact, maybe get some new input, reject the hypothesis and make a new one, rinse and repeat.
The first hypothesis will be super-naive, but the hundredth, the thousandth?
If you end this process prematurely - maybe for lack of processing power - you will get something you called a "*belief*". (Like a belief that some emotional web page might actually reveal a significant truth about our political system.) That *belief* is a synonym of "tired with trying new hypotheses, will stick to this one". Typical human thing. AI will have less of that, I hope, due to having much much more processing capabilities. AI will stick less to the high-school-level truth that you should assign great credibility to statements written in a form of a newspaper article, it will hopefully form more and more generations of hypotheses, and check them.
In effect AI will depend less on *believing* various statements generated in the outside world.
Upvotes: 0 <issue_comment>username_3: I strongly disagree with all of the aforementioned answers for this reason: -
If we, as humans can be fooled and disceived by what "we" consider a good sources of news, how can an artificially intelligent computer have any chance?
However, the challenge would be that an AI would have to be able to "test" a source of information against a known medium in order to *get to the truth*. This is a far different dynamic set of circumstances than what has been touted above.
For example, if it was claimed by a woman that a man raped her - which was not reported to the police - it is not enough to compare one person's statements to another in order to determine truth. This is because collusion, influenced or coherced third parties, mistaken perceptions and false beliefs would give false positives.
However, if an AI could establish from her statement that on the day she claimed to have been raped, that the alleged assailant was incapacitated while in her company, until she left his home, because the police report stated that she was upset with the assailant because he was asleep because of drugs during her whole stay. But, this police report comes from an independent source who states, Mr. "x" was asleep that day.
Doing a strict textual check is not going to give the correct answers. analysing her friends and associattes chatter could also confirm a false report as being true.
Therefore, an AI has to have the ability to "test" written reports outside of the criteria of what was spoken.
Upvotes: 2 <issue_comment>username_4: While the experiment I link here is a very narrow awareness, it is as such: [A robot has just passed a classic self-awareness test for the first time](http://www.sciencealert.com/a-robot-has-just-passed-a-classic-self-awareness-test-for-the-first-time). If the agent can prove something to itself, we can then say it "Knows." Of course the level of awareness you're asking about is very tricky.
In short, it can't know that what it's experiencing is real with absolute certainty because sensory of any kind can be falsified. Do you know what is true/real? You think you do but can you prove it? No. Awareness is subjective.
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