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Lines of code can be a useful basis for estimation. If you keep records of: 1) component/sub-project functionality type 2) code size 3) time taken then: future projects can be related to those measured components to give estimated size; then the size can be related to measured time and rate to give estimated tim...
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I especially love the part where he uses the following construct twice: (foobar ? true : false) which can of course just be replaced with (foobar) with the exact same result 100% of the time. In an article about BREVITY.
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1. Because it's offtopic. 2. Because the community at large seems to be [on the fence](http://reddit.com/info?id=34l4#c34oi) wrt programming.reddit
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I prefer to write short and fast code. I also know dozens of talantless copy/paste programmers, and they certainly beat me in lines of code department.
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This seems like a good place to discuss information hiding. Bloch wants as much marked 'private' as possible (page 16). Languages like python disagree, usually because they don't want information hiding at the level of the programming language to leave one at the mercy of a poorly designed API. Perhaps it's better to t...
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this is useful!
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as a programmer I love this stuff! a nice little gem ;)
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I think lines-of-code is best used as an estimation of complexity. This is the opposite of what the managers in the story meant(estimation of productivity), but it's related to what you're talking about. Generally speaking, more LOC in a program means it will be harder to understand, harder to modify, have a greater ch...
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That can't be right... I have a little mind and I'm *never* consistent. Almost.
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Why is this on the programming sub? Looks like spam to me...
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I realize you made your comment in jest... but still, I can't help but observe that P => Q does not mean that Q => P. i.e., "a foolish consistency" implies "little mind", but the converse is not necessarily true.
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Most metrics measure lines *changed*, not lines added as most people think. In the case of this article, 2000 lines deleted means 2000 lines changed.
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It's *already* on the programming subreddit. Clearly, that doesn't keep it from making it to the front page.
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*One of my most productive days was throwing away 1000 lines of code.* -- Ken Thompson And anyone that has read the Lions Book or the source for the Plan 9 compilers knows that ken has written some of the tightest code you will find anywhere.
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You know, the linked article *does* describe a specific case where a LOC metric was applied to real working programmers, so it's evidently not all made up. That said, I do get the impression that the heyday of the simple LOC performance metric was a long time ago (was it a '70s IBM thing?) and that it is indeed a bit o...
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The sad reality: Programmer A is given a task, and after 6 months of overtime produces a 12 inch stack of print of their code. Programmer B is given a task, walks down to the beach, has a cup of coffee, isn't seen for three weeks. Finally a month later, produces three pages of code that completely fulfill the requireme...
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mikepurvis
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This kind of thing is terrific for people on their own boxes. However, for the vast numbers of people running PHP on shared hosts, it's next to useless. Speaking of which, there's a really sexy Wordpress plugin out there which uses the Gmail webservice to provide an AJAX spellcheck.
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No.
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OK, I give up. Who?
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"Write a paper promising salvation, make it a 'structured' something or a 'virtual' something, or 'abstract', 'distributed' or 'higher-order' or 'applicative' and you can almost be certain of having started a new cult."
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I agree. The LOC problem isn't really the LOC problem specifically but a representative of the larger class of problems where managers try to measure productivity with methods from production-oriented industries in knowledge-oriented industries.
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binary is simple and powerful too, but I wouldn't want to program in it.
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masterfuol
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Reddit is 404ing me ATM but we already saw this on [ryans original blog post](http://lesscode.org/2006/03/12/someone-tell-gosling/).
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[Seen at LtU](http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/1338), a "fun introduction" to category theory: [When is one thing equal to some other thing? (PDF)](http://www.math.harvard.edu/~mazur/preprints/when_is_one.pdf)
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csbrooks
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Me! No, wait. Your mom!
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hxa7241
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Confidence is valuable. But it may be no easier to get than growing 15cm taller.
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True it's definitely not easy. But it isn't uncontrollable as height besically is.
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ecuzzillo
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No, it's actually not. If you'd ever written any binary machine code before, you'd know that it's neither simple nor powerful. Hundreds of instructions, none of which do anything very interesting at all. If succinctness is power, binary loses almost as badly as Brainfuck.
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You have one data structure, one method of 'simplicity', and one 'functional' language to unite them all. Eureka. What a great idea.
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Closer to Forth, maybe
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I am really, really sick of spam for this site.
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I've downloaded cheatsheets before and never really use them, as they invariably lack just the nugget I'm looking for whenever I bother with them. Then for Ruby, why would you need one, having IRB right there?, like object.methods.sort. And all the $ predefined perl-like variables?, who uses those in Ruby nowadays?
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EliGottlieb
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It would be nice if we had a Very Accessible but Powerful scripting language for consoles or computers. *chuckles softly at Master Plan* Isn't it called bash?
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How 'bout SomeClass.methods.sort - Object.methods.sort
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mikepurvis
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Cheetsheets are awesome for languages with large numbers of random keywords. Specifically, a CSS one can be helpful for remembering the font-family, font-size, font-variant, text-decoration stuff. Also, I use a regex one a lot; not so much for the core regex, but for modifiers like ungreedy parsing and non-case-sens...
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Python is perfect for this purpose. The licensing is amiable to it too. The PS3 is to ship with linux on the hard drive, maybe that'll be the box that spawns the next generation of coders.
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Every Sony Playstation2 sold in my area came with a Demo disc that included YABASIC-- which answers all the requests made in the article..
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The PNGs make my eyes hurt.
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rollerbob
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Regarding the last paragraph of this piece, aren't both Python and Ruby bundled with OS X?
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Rafe
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For demonstrations on OS X, there is now [Quartz Composer](http://developer.apple.com/graphicsimaging/quartz/quartzcomposer.html).
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What utter bollocks. A simple programming environment for Python, Ruby or Java can be installed with a few mouseclicks. If the author finds them too hard to find he should set up a link page that points people directly to the download links for, say, JDK & Eclipse. The reason many young people don't like program...
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When I was a kid, I used to spend hours playing with QBasic coding up bouncing balls, fireworks, solar system simulations etc. I can't imagine doing that with Python, Ruby or Java. And the learning curve for OpenGL is *huge*. (Before you ask, yes, I've scaled it.) What's needed to get kids hooked -- at least, kids l...
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i've read this book. uninteresting. boring. useful only for beginners. the only value i thought was that you'd get to see some dumb things java does sometimes. before you java-lovers start flaming me, by "dumb", i mean, doing things that the programmer does not expect and that's true for a lot of languages.
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vdoma
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huh!?
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Black magic indeed ......
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His point was that you can't just start coding for your XBox, PS3 or GameCube. You've got to buy developer rights or crack your box. That's very un-Commodore 64.
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One rather powerful programming environment that everyone has access to is Javascript ...
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The reason we can't get a real programming language is that there is far too much risk of a buffer overflow in one of the libraries. If there is one, pirates can use it to soft mod the game system. Keep in mind that's what killed the dreamcast... I know, actually it was a bios glitch, but being able to pirate games w...
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All good points. It should be intrinsically a part of those systems, you should not be aware of an SDK install etc.. its just there. I totally agree.
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Exactly. I remember I looked into coding for my GBA, thinking how cool it would be... I was ready to purchase the USB data cartridge or whatever, and obviously there's going to be some kind of source -> cross-compiler -> emulation cycle, but it just seemed so utterly overwhelming. Why's point is valid: the har...
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firdaus
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Nice, seems very similar to Joel's approach in the Aardvark functional specifications. Personally, I prefer a slightly more heavyweight approach along the lines of Alistair Cockburn's books. Writing Effective Use Cases and Crystal Clear contains a lot of good information on project documentation.
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as the title says. :) In Demolition Derby 2 for the PC, when cars end up in a pile up, sometimes they merge into eachother.
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<sweating fat guy> DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS!! </sweating fat guy>
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fnord123
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I would rather be homeless than develop with WIN32.
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baldo
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why negative votes? fuck! :P
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pixelglow
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Then there's always Squeak. Something that awoke the childlike "let's explore again" in this grizzled ol' programmer, and made me think of Logo and turtles all over again. And it's made a believer of my 6 year old daughter, though she's still at the "making pretty pictures" stage... http://www.squeak.org/
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nice!
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The article has a minor flaw in it. In the magical line > i = 0x5f3759df - ( i >> 1 ); you have to remember that 'i' is the integer representation of a float. So you're not dividing it by two, you're shifting the whole number, which (sort of) halves the exponent (square root!) and halves the mantissa (so...
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Cool new Tomcat RPM package builder, very useful for Linuxers
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Error 404 - Not Found, link is invalid.
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This rant is so nonsense that I had trouble getting to the end of it... This guy is seriously the premier Architecture Astronaut that Spolsky so brilliantly warns about here http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000018.html and here http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2005/10/21.html For the last friggin time...
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rule number 21. Don't make you site lime green, it will hurt your visitor's eyes.
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Was "proof-read your content" one of the items? I received too many parse errors to continue.
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Man, that sure would've been cool to see back when I was learning to sort in my intro Java class. Awesome applet.
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Rule#21 - Avoid putting together lame lists composed of Wrong, and Obvious...
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I completely agree. I want to write very simple games for my GameCube that my 2 yr old son can enjoy. Just him being able to tap differnt buttons to make differnent things move would be stimulating and teach him hand-eye coordination. Right now, he just watches his older brother play SpongeBob while holding a contro...
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> And all the $ predefined perl-like variables?, who uses those in Ruby nowadays? I've seen various ones used in Ruby code I've read, actually, though not nearly as often as in Perl.
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"The" implies singular, so while you are correct, that would mean my little mind is without a hobgoblin. I find that hard to believe.
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sounds like the author needs to install plan 9.
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albar129, you can read, right? but you aren't a web-developer, right?
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Nice page! It would be nice to have a button that resets all three at once with the same unordered sequence so you can watch them compete on an equal footing.
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ever heard of the phrase - "practice before you preach"?
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Does this mean Seaside and UnCommonWeb are illegal?
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Not unless he press the charges. Nowadays patent system is so ridiculous that many companies register patents just to prevent themselves to be dragged to the court by patent-squatters.
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Prior art? Dreme: for Life in the Net (1996) -- Matthew Fuchs http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/fuchs96dreme.html
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He doesn't own the patents: Yahoo does. I can imagine building a startup using UCW or Seaside, getting popular and having Yahoo abuse this to get a better deal acquiring the startup or to prevent a rival from acquring it.
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sounds like the author is a troll
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Possibly. Viaweb was founded in 1995, so it's reasonable to assume that PG came up with the idea in that year. It's also possible that someone could make a good case that using continuations is obvious. In 1995, just about anything having to do with web applications was novel in some sense.
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was anyone thinking tradewars when they read this?
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wow. Way to miss the irony dude.
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The author's [follow-up](http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=456824) in response to readers' replies is also well worth reading.
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No, the article is quite measured and well-argued. Did you read it? Quoting from his [follow-up article](http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=456824): >**9. With what do you propose we replace UNIX?** > >At the moment? UNIX. Currently, UNIX-like systems are the least-bad choices. All the operati...
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Huh? Is this possible? No one can patent things like this, right? Or does someone have a patent on procedure based web apps? Or web apps that use recursion? Weird.
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I don't think it should be possible to patent the application of well-known programming technique foo to new domain bar, and I suspect the courts would agree if it ever came to that. The problem is that the USPTO will grant a patent for *anything*. Some guy patented the process of teasing his cat with a laser pointe...
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Maybe reddit should try this? there's a lot of extra junk in there.
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[Here](http://zamez.org/factorcss?url=http%3A%2F%2Freddit.com%2Fstatic%2Fstyles.css) is the factored version of the reddit stylesheet.
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**offtopic** That page is set to occupy 50% of the browser window. Regardless of how narrow or wide the window is. Priceless.
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Nice idea.
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