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goldfire
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I agree, there's no reason for them to add FLAC now. Anyone who might want it in a desktop music player probably won't be using iTunes anyway for other reasons, and current iPods don't have the space for a serious quantity of lossless audio.
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TheMeerkat
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> FLAC never agrees with me when it comes to ReplayGain. You have a problem with ReplayGain, then; RG is a consistent standard that works the same across every codec that supports it, natively or otherwise. FLAC simply implements it. > I've had better luck with R128's volume normalization than RG. Neither RG ...
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thehodapp
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Usually music is already normalized in the mastering process. If you normalize it further, you're distorting the sound from how it's meant to be heard. Usually audio players can do the normalization too if you really have to have it without messing with the actual audio data.
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plazman30
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FLAC uses Vorbis tags, which don't really support cover art without some hacking.
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TheMeerkat
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[He was referring to ReplayGain, not normalization.](http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/lrp9c/apple_lossless_audio_codec_alac_now_open_source/c2v3eqa) Nothing you said was wrong, just clarifying.
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thehodapp
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In addition, FLAC generally encodes smaller files, especially on the highest setting (which by the way makes encoding only slightly longer, and decoding will still only take the same amount of time).
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Yes, it's too bad we're not all like you who will praise apple for wiping their own ass.
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How does open-sourcing ALAC help to turn a profit... exactly? *Corporations, maaaan!*
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Pretty sure ipod users were the least likely to use FLAC in the first place.
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account512
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One of the main reasons I went with Android over iOS is for flac support.
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OMouse
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Phew, Lisp/Scheme aren't current! :D
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Apple might get free improvements to ALAC.
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sketerpot
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Rewriting a Java program in C++ usually makes it faster. Rewriting a C++ program in Java usually makes it faster. The key here, and the big confounding factor, is rewriting. Things are better the second time you write them.
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gilgoomesh
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Unfortunately, that's a 6 year old comparison. I'm sure both FLAC and ALAC have very different encoder/decoder performance by now.
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cb43569
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It wasn't a candidate for deletion when I linked it.
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cb43569
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Why can't you do it? I kid, I kid. I would, if I had the time; writing and improving Wikipedia articles is a hobby of mine, but I don't have the time to dedicate to a site like WikiVS that doesn't even look particularly well-frequented or resourceful.
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xander787
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People who partake in platform dominance ideas are not typically the brightest
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ncr100
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Really just navigation speed, stability, consistent and usable application design.
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bombastica
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You mean like Webkit?
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And before anyone jumps in with "oh, but Webkit is just KHTML"... yeah, maybe in 1998.
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flac is way better
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bluehazed
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And make sure to record his speaches in 128kbps MP3.
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ZorbaTHut
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But we don't care about hello world. Yes, that's awesome, you've taken a part of the codebase that was already far faster than necessary and made it even faster. The question is whether or not this speed increase helps us make good applications more cheaply.
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TheMeerkat
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I've never had a problem with FLAC metadata. Every player I have ever used that's supported FLAC supports every important tag (excluding ReplayGain), including album art.
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headphonehalo
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I don't see why you were downvoted for this, it's completely accurate.
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OMouse
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What does general programming cover? Mobile development? Any particular languages?
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manberry_sauce
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They've bit developers in the ass over arbitrary things before. I'm not sure if you're aware how many development dollars were thrown away when they made the surprise announce of their requirement that all iOS apps be developed entirely native in their new SDK. It didn't matter if you had the ability to port your code ...
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sisyphus
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WebKit is under GPL it was hardly an act of altruism abiding by the license of the work you're enhancing your platform with.
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account512
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Also, it's the "Apple" loss-less audio codec, so there's some free branding.
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overtoke
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here's another similar chart with more specific infos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_audio_codecs
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The question was how Apple Lossless helps them turn a better profit than using FLAC. You're a moron, and the reason they used Apple Lossless was due to hardware limitations of iPods, battery life, etc.
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collin_ph
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Steve Jobs dies and Apple starts opening up. Coincidence?
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brantyr
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Any proof of this or are you just drinking the apple Kool-aid? Every comparison so far in this thread^1 gives FLAC the faster decode time which means less CPU usage and therefore less battery used. ^1 http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison#Comparison_Table http://members.home.nl/w.speek/comp...
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keithasaurus
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If this is any good, then FLAC is probably done.
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[deleted]
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Now, how can we make something like it for Android tablets...
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Also, mobile safari is buggy and crashes all the time. Sometimes it's good to have options.
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DemanRisu
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While that's a very efficient way to encode music, I think I'd kill myself if I had an album with 3 or 4 different formats of music.
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TheMeerkat
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On what basis? [FLAC is better than ALAC in every way.](http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison#Comparison_Table) Quite literally, the only reason to use ALAC is if you want lossless music on your iP*-branded portable device, and don't feel like modifying it in any other way (Rockbox, etc.), w...
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Not really. New means focusing on how to compute rather than what to compute. In many contexts this is harmful.
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That's pretty close, we'll allow it.
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Failfox.
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I wouldn't trust anything Apple with audio quality. http://blog.szynalski.com/2011/03/16/itunes-10-2-1-fails-to-decode-mp3-files-properly/ iTunes doesn't even decode mp3s properly. We have a free, open source lossless format that's great and superior in every way. I don't see why we need Apple's crap making things e...
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brantyr
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Well only apple devices support ALAC vs any android phone, ipods with rockbox, a bunch of 3rd party media players (haven't looked at any of these recently but i'm sure at least some of the iriver type devices support it) you can see which is broader.
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xcbsmith
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Except that it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Last I checked FLAC was much lighter on the CPU than ALAC during decodes...
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OMouse
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So what you're saying is that we need to get the offshore competition to up *their* rates. There's no point in undercutting anyone else, we can ALL make a shit-ton of cash...
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[deleted]
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xcbsmith
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Flash storage capacities are growing at an insane rate. I think even if that is maybe true today, a year from now it won't be.
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TheMeerkat
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Heh, this would be my exact reaction as well. I mean, [the audio player I use](http://www.foobar2000.org/) wouldn't make any distinction as long as the tagging was correct, but... it's just... *wrong*.
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DFP_
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An 80Gig iPod can definitely fit a good few playlist's worth of lossless audio.
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neonblue2
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But was that true seven years ago when ALAC was introduced?
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False
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DemanRisu
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[Disregarding the fact that Apple currently maintains and releases quite a bit of open-source software...](http://opensource.apple.com/)
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SanityInAnarchy
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The last time I did this, it was with Amarok and a transcoding plugin. Amarok 2 dropped support for transcoding plugins, so the transcoding feature was broken for awhile, but it was simple enough -- in theory, I would give it an album in Flac and an iPod, and it'd transcode it into something the iPod could understand. ...
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bluesatin
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Considering the iPod classic has 160GB worth of storage, it's not really a space issue.
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jawdirk
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If the exponent is even, then it will undo the sqrt. sqrt(5!)^6 = 1728000 for example.
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kagayaki
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They still make iPod Classics which have ~160gb+ worth of storage. Not sure what the processing power of those are compared to the old iPods, but regardless of their ability to decode FLACs at the moment, you're right about them having very little reason to add support for FLAC.
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robe
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All I can say to this - http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2011/Feb-17.html
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TheMeerkat
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While I can never see myself using the format, I see it as a net positive regardless. Think about it: if ALAC gains enough spread, for whatever reason, iTunes may start selling it as a format in addition to the lossy format they already use (AAC, I believe; MP3 if they got their shit together and migrated over since th...
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A perfect fifth is 3/2 frequency ratio. An octave is a 2/1. The circle of fifths depends on pitch class equivalency based on the octave. That is, beginning on some note, perfect fifths to some power equal an octave to some other power. f(3/2)^ m=f(2/1)^ n. This is impossible because there are different prime factors on...
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euxneks
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OK then, so how do I get the source besides downloading it file by file from the Trac? anyone actually try to git clone the repo?
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therealprotonk
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>I'm not sure if you're aware how many development dollars were thrown away when they made the surprise announce of their requirement that all iOS apps be developed entirely native in their SDK. Not very many? Previous to that announcement there were no apps for iOS apart from those written for jailbreakers. Not ...
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IllegalArgument
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Jobs turned in his grave by 10 degrees NNW today.
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markrmarkr
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Resharper 6 has a colour picker built in, its fantastic. The image picker in this looks great too, as you say.
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JimboLodisC
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cool, so we can continue using FLAC now
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TexasJefferson
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>*The wonderful thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from.*
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Shin-LaC
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I wonder if the encoding/decoding speed evaluation was done using Libavcodec instead of Apple's implementation. $10 says it was.
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pameste
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Somebody should combine FLAC and ALAC... they could call it... AFLAC.
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drysart
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> The details are a little fuzzy on this. Are we required to create a mechanism for OCR on the strips or are we supposed to also engineer a way to take the papers from a garbage state into a sift-able state? OCR isn't a requirement, but if your solution attempts to do OCR as a way of validating that you've reassemb...
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cultic_raider
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Well actually, that is an insightful blog post, but not really relevant here.
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TheMeerkat
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Probably. You can hardly fault HA for that, considering ALAC was opened up... yesterday. It will take a bit of time before significant re-testing can be done on that front. Even so, the best case scenario for ALAC is that it ends up being *slightly* quicker to decode than FLAC, to the point of it being insignificant fo...
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TheMeerkat
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> Somebody should combine FLAC and ALAC This made me twitch.
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__j_random_hacker
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Well, I agree that there are two (or maybe more?) commonly understood meanings of the word "free", but I still think that "free X", where X is a commodity like software, is usually understood to mean "you don't have to pay to use/consume the X". I just think it's a bit underhand to try to redefine the meanings of word...
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noiserr
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According to this [benchmark](http://members.home.nl/w.speek/comparison.htm) ALAC is significantly faster. Decoding is the important figure as it indicates a more efficient algorithm for mobile devices, which as someone above stated was the reason for Apple to design ALAC.
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twotime
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Choice quote: ...In addition to the above, the AbstractFactory page suggests that some plugin-driven objects may be operating as abstract subscriptions to ambient event-sources outside the object framework, such as the current time (update every second or minute), or the RSS feed from your favorite webpage, or an exte...
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__j_random_hacker
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As I said to linuxlass, I think in the context of "free X", where X is a commodity, people almost always interpret "free" in the "doesn't cost any money" sense. But I grant you that it's not the most grievous distortion ever. (What *is* the most grievous distortion ever? Well I dunno, but the use of the word "violen...
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ALAC on an iOS device can use hardware assisted decoding so that comparison table CPU vs CPU won't really apply one would think. http://developer.apple.com/library/IOS/#documentation/AudioVideo/Conceptual/MultimediaPG/UsingAudio/UsingAudio.html
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TheMeerkat
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> Updated: 2005-02-07 It's a bit old. Newer benchmarks done by Hydrogenaudio members place FLAC as being quicker to decode now. [Hardly matters either way.](http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/lrp9c/apple_lossless_audio_codec_alac_now_open_source/c2v3y9i?context=1)
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nakp88d
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Hardware similar to or even less than that of an ipod would easily play flac using the rockbox firmware update.
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Jataka
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Are USB turntables not your style?
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Rhomboid
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What, no subjective listening tests? Apple lossless sounds warmer because Apple puts more care into their products, and quantum entanglement says that the bits should retain some knowledge of their previous state and --- Fuck. I can't go on. Audiophiles are too dumb to live.
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boa13
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> aster decode time which means less CPU usage and therefore less battery used Note that theoretically, a program with a bit more CPU usage could still consume less energy than another, depending on which parts of the CPU get exercised by each program (e.g. floating-point unit vs. integer unit). A busy loop and hi...
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TheMeerkat
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Vinyls degrade in audio quality after a relatively low number of plays. Unless it's a brand-new vinyl that has never been played before, it still wouldn't be lossless. (Yes, I know it was a joke, and I laughed. Still!)
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brantyr
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Same thing should apply to FLAC if apple could be bothered to do it, because they've optimised for one and not the other doesn't make it better.
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TheMeerkat
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... What? No one is saying that ALAC (or FLAC, for that matter) "sounds better." You are aware that there are metrics to compare codec quality besides "it sounds good," right?
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RX_AssocResp
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But they support everything else as opposed to that mp4 crap.
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TrancePhreak
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There's talk that there will be no more iPod classics.
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Rhomboid
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Did you completely miss the fact that I was being sarcastic and making fun of audiophile idiots that buy into magical power cords and $500 tuned wooden volume knobs?
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RX_AssocResp
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His problems might have stemmed from crappy taggers that used to add ID3 tags to flac.
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ahminus
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You don't know that unless you also control the client code. If your requests are serviced 5 minutes later, how do you know the client consumed the output? I write code like yours all the time. It might take a decade, but it never fails and processes all 40K requests, even though they arrive concurrently.
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Complete aside point really. That is a business decision, not part of the technical discussion of whether or not one or the other could use less battery. When you are involved in a high profile product launch with a lot of moving parts (e.g. a cell phone) adding additional hardware or software is not something that "O...
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TheMeerkat
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Yes, I did miss it. Likely due to the fact that *the entirety of your post was referencing ALAC*. A codec, not any physical item (power cords, wooden knobs or otherwise).
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TheMeerkat
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I... that was a thing? That happened? *twitch*
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kagayaki
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Is that so? Can't say I'm hugely surprised, since I think I've seen 3 sold in the last like, year or so of me working at Walmart..
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