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MrQuantum
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If he invented recursion, will he be back soon?
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jmelesky
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You were the one who stated > Spend time learning the time proven existing practical, functional languages... rather than inventing new crappy languages. And then proceeded to suggest that only programming languages you'd seen job ads for were worth learning. I'm asking how you interpreted "Looking for a project ...
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grauenwolf
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Knowing a file is XML lets you default to openning it in an XML editor instead of a plain text editor.
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Gotebe
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Of course, I was merely showing how easy it is for a mere push\_back to have many allocations/dealocations.
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c2umcam
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[deleted]
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Large British university. You name it, we've got it. Most of the Perl is on 'nixes but in the dim and distant past I did a lot of Win32 stuff with Perl as well.
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haeikou
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I refered to the perl community as exactly what it is. Python is not a company either, nor are ruby or haskell. Yet they manage to put useful content on their website, which the perl community doesn't.
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nascent
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And the resources are counted rather than copied. > True, but it doesn't mean references are needed 100% at all places where a variable should be. For a polymorphic type I think it should be. You have shown a design choice which is not possible in D, one I do not know to be common or think has ever be asked to hav...
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lluad
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"man perlintro" is too difficult for people?
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robkinyon
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This redirects to orcug.com. Chrome claims this site has malware.
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Gotebe
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>I really dislike using exceptions as a means of indicating that a method has failed That does not matter. With C++, you have to really go through hops to avoid exceptions. In C++, everything throws. operator new throws, STL throws, boost throws, heck, simplest of things like string1+string2 throw. You can't escap...
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[deleted]
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Why do you say this?
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roveboat
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This is probably 4-5 years before impulse tracker, tho. Back in those days, Scream Tracker was the hottest thing ever - also created by FC.
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c2umedp
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[deleted]
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Java has the highest market share.
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c2umep9
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[deleted]
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2nd year Bioinformatician student here, anything I should know/learn/do?
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c2umewz
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gospelwut
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If you ever get the chance, look into Powershell for your Windows boxes. It's very nice. (I'm assuming you're already running SysInternals which is another sysadmin Godsend.)
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c2umf7o
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locster
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Brilliant. Thanks.
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roveboat
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Talk about going off-topic :D I used to be kuuba or tes-la on #tpolm, but I'm guessing that it was after the UK links died down (~98 or so - damn its been a while), because I remember statix being mentioned every now and then but never really running into him..
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cogman10
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Ruby is what Perl would be if it could dump all of its legacy support. It takes the best features from many languages and rolls them into a pretty nice language. Perl's biggest problem is that it started out as a document description language and evolved into a programming language. (Though, this is also the origin of...
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TomSwirly
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> Although it's been several years since I've written C/C++, I can't recall a time that using smart pointers was required or performant. We see all too many posts like this on Reddit - "I don't use X very much, but I have a radical perspective on it." I've been writing C++ off and on for two decades now, and I'm w...
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c2umge7
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[deleted]
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Seems to work properly again. Now.
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axilmar
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> And the resources are counted rather than copied. It depends on the chosen memory management technique. For example, in Qt, the "ownership" pattern is used, so no reference counting is required for resource management. > For a polymorphic type I think it should be. You have shown a design choice which is not ...
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c2umgu5
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[deleted]
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We just outsourced our student email to Outlook Live this summer. I built an interface between our eDirectory and Outlook Live using Powershell and Novell's IDM product. I can't tell you how much I hate Powershell right now.
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c2umguo
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nthitz
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Hmm, hadn't seen that happening, if people see this people please send me a PM.
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doomchild
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I've been getting paid to write code for going on 8 years now, and that was easily the least comprehensible explanation I've read in ages. The spec for Common Lisp has better writing than *that*, and it's got parts that read like a train wreck being narrated by William Hung.
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c2umhoq
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xardox
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Emacs has been [self aware](http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/text/rms-vs-doctor.html) for some time now.
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c2umi3f
t3_lotys
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[deleted]
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c2umi52
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1427786134
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rmxz
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I think you underestimate the monopoly power of an OEM installed OS. It's looking like Windows-8's new "metro" UI is hard-coded to IE, and ISTM short or some European court challenging it, the user will not given any way to change that. It won't matter if the user wants IE or hates it. The new Win8 UI will force him...
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False
0
c2umis6
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el_tavs
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> Programming in GC environments therefore means manually handling all other resources, and with substandard tools compared to what C++ has. Non-sequitur. In lisp you have syntactic abstractions that better deal with the situation, see with-open-file. If you want to get scoped-destruction you can do the following ...
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False
0
c2umj7x
t3_lpicx
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crusoe
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Perl has all the power of awk and sed with all the clean syntax of awk and sed.
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False
0
c2umjl5
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doomchild
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> I'm periodically flabbergasted by people who claim Perl is hard to learn -- the tools are so easy to grab! > They even prefer languages like Python that leave me struggling for air ("how do you *do* anything in it?"). See, and I'm the exact opposite. I've looked at Perl several times over the years (mostly f...
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1319646133
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0
c2umjon
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mattstreet
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It really depends on what you are planning on programming.
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c2umjub
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joehillen
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No, commits are preserved when you merge branches, unless you rebase. Though why someone would rebase everything to a single commit makes no sense to me.
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heeen
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> or die I see what you did there...
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nubela
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I don't get it, why fix what is not broken?
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c2umk9q
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elder_george
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Searching for properties? Why not call [GetProperties()](http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aky14axb.aspx)?
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c2umkd3
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kragensitaker
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That's a lame simile, not an actual rebuttal. Lame similes can be effective in whipping up sentiment among people who already agree with you, but they don't help persuade even the undecided, let alone those who actually disagree with you.
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False
0
c2uml4n
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Bloodhound01
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**+1 only effects people that you have on your friends list(circles) for google. It does not effect search results for people outside your friends list. It has no bearing on SEO *at all*. ** Unless there is an entire community on google that are all friends and are all perl programmers, looking up perl tutorials, the...
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True
0
c2umlea
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True
gospelwut
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Was it actually a disdain for Powershell or the kludgery you had to do with it?
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1319646439
False
0
c2umleg
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Abstrct
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The slides and audio from my Schemaverse presentation (When Space Elephants Attack) at DEFCON 19 were just posted as well if anybody is interested: https://www.defcon.org/html/links/dc-archives/dc-19-archive.html#Abstrct The game has changed a bit in the last two months but it is still a good starting point.
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c2umlk1
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t5_2fwo
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[deleted]
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Perl people seem to be that "high and mighty" group. They think that if you can't learn with those awful examples, then you shouldn't be using perl anyway.
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False
0
c2ummt0
t3_lpmaq
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t5_2fwo
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[deleted]
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rebasing is not an accurate term for squashing commits because rebasing encompasses more than just squashing. Also, if you are examining the history of a single branch, if you have merged using no fast forward, all your work(individual commits) will still be on the branch, with a single merge commit on master, or wher...
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c2umnjq
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[deleted]
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They can be used to validate infrastructure choices, if you watch the one from ruby on rails you'll see they made the correct choice in moving to github. After the switchover date the number of contributors and activity is noticeably greater.
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c2umodc
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multivector
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I don't think I've ever used language I don't hate, even if it's just a little bit.
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0
c2umoe3
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pnpbios
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The author of this article is an architecture astronaut. He enjoys 'playing' with code. >* "This is good enough" Some times, good enough really is good enough. Mainframes are good enough. New and shiny != better. >* "This is how it was always done" Again, process stability. If it's not broke, don't try and br...
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0
c2umof4
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[deleted]
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They can't be 100% sure it's wikipedia though, it could be another site using the same public ip.
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c2umoss
t3_loqpx
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elder_george
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I tried to do 'literate programming' several times (with `noweb`, looks like it's easier to many other tools) but every time I failed miserably. Can someone recommend a good article on a thought process for doing it right?
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0
c2ump5b
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skidooer
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The pattern works well when you can block, but what interface would you provide to ActiveResource/ActiveRecord to support async operations? Something like the following, of course, won't work because name won't be loaded in time. @person = Person.find(1) @person.name
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c2umpn5
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True
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False
0
c2umpuy
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t5_2fwo
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[deleted]
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Mostly Outlook Live tbh, and their expectation that you will be using their own Identity Management product. I've no real experience of that but from what I can figure it will poll Active Directory (which we don't use) and send up any changes to accounts that happened since the last poll. Novell IDM is entirely event d...
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False
0
c2umpwt
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NoMoreNicksLeft
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And yet, when it comes time to do something difficult, perl is the only language with a library for whatever it is you're attempting. The past month, I've been working on code to integrate our Subversion repository with the godawful CA SCM Harvest source control system the DBAs all use. I was going to write it in per...
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False
0
c2umqcd
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igouy
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> I don't understand why you keep rubbing it in I don't understand why you only admitted to not using the term "properly" as if there actually was something there that was *ironic* in some sense :-) > certainly seems to allow that interpretation Only in the same way that it allows "the interpretation" that `an...
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c2umqcw
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3
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0
c2umqjt
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TheFrigginArchitect
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I do not have enough programming experience to evaluate it myself. Do [the perldoc examples](http://perldoc.perl.org/perlxs.html#EXAMPLES) not get you very far? Isn't the "why you are supposed to do it" discussed thoroughly in the [introduction](http://perldoc.perl.org/perlxs.html#Introduction)?
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c2umr1u
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grauenwolf
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** IRepository<T> ** If I've got 20 or 30 top-level entities that can be loaded, then I don't want 20 to 30 repositories to manage. This is the kind of mistake that forces you to use a DI Framework just to stay half-way sane. At most I want to deal with one repository per functional area, not per type. The re...
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c2umrqm
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TheFrigginArchitect
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"BioPerl, what is it?" => http://stein.cshl.org/genome_informatics/Bioperl_04/bioperl-i-handouts.pdf
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aphoenix
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It's not lame - I'm just showing that you're stating an opinion as a fact, which makes you look like an asshat to me. I did so by stating an opinion that would make me look like an asshat to you. Jobs did more than design. Gates did more than make money. If you think this is not the case, you are mistaken. If you are ...
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psygnisfive
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Mostly Alonzo Church, since Curry didn't invent the lambda calculus.
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marssaxman
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Perl has non-associative arrays?
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jvictor118
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and it's great because i don't have to leave the little cocoon Mother Microsoft has made for you! Phenomenal. You can code in a new language without having to feel the sting of the command line, or having to actually compile/build/package stuff yourself. I just don't get the .NET crew...
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ttyler
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Who the fuck uses Perl now
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sltkr
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> Is Smalltalk arbitrary precision arithmetic performance that much worse than Java arbitrary precision arithmetic performance? Please show. The difference is mainly that Smalltalk was developed in the 70s and Java in the 90s. These days, we accept a lot more computational overhead in exchange for some convenience ...
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abadidea
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I guess I was putting a little too much faith in g+ since I've been using it pretty heavily and collected quite a number of programmers on it.
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DarkLightx19
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What if the time wasn't perfectly uniform. The pattern would still be uniform to relative pieces of the pattern, but seem chaotic to the original pattern. Another relationship to the universe in the effect of changing space-time. The universe seems to follow patterns, but be, like an asymptote, everything but perfect (...
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The feature we plan to implement in WebGL isn't mission critical and is rather just a nice to have so my plan is to just warn IE users that their browser can't render it so tuff luck.
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jvictor118
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Does anyone know a good reason to use Perl when Python, Ruby, Scala et al exist? I see no benefits that you can't have better and more in some more modern language. Frankly, I think the Perl diehards are just hangers-on of days past afraid to step outside their comfort zone and learn something new -- the blow to thei...
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When all is sed and done, gawking would be casting Perl before swine.
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Guvante
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That reminds me of college too, where everyone had the mentality that Microsoft was the devil. I have worked in Microsoft land and outside of Microsoft land, the only difference is the initial setup period. You type ant build, I press Ctrl+Shift+B, hell you probably have a shortcut too if you use something like Eclips...
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hobbified
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Learning Perl is good, and it's got a brand new Sixth Edition that just came out this summer. Modern Perl is definitely *also* a good learning resource, though. And it happens to be freely available, which is certain to appeal to a lot of people.
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It took me a while to really appreciate Perl. I started hacking around with it in college and now I use it every day for my job. It's a very fun language once you understand it.
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el_tavs
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> In the general case, yes. But what if the compiler terminates its job? then it means that the specific test is valid. if we assume that everything goes fine, it will go fine, obviously. What I'm asking however is: how much is the C++ template language suited for the job, realistically speaking? > Such as? T...
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hvidgaard
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No, it still doesn't fit the definition of an object. See the link in the grandparent to this post for an explanation.
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hobbified
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There are two kinds of intended reader for the Camel: 1. Someone who already knows several languages (one of which is preferably C) and wants to get up to speed with Perl in short order. 2. Someone who's already familiar with Perl but needs a reference for some of the more subtle details of the language. It's *not* a...
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jerf
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[The S is for Sucks](http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogday08.html).
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Perhaps you can't comprehend Json.sh is an existing solution.
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mithaldu
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Not too bad, but still fairly outdated, having been touched last in 2005, and in need of an overhaul. Seriously though, going all :smugdog: about your german result when i'm obviously talking english ones is fairly Eulenspiegel of you.
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biggerthancheeses
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Don't you mean the `ASCIITemplateDecoratorFactory`? Oh, wait, this isn't Java. Whew.
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A good developer should be able to pick up any language/framework/tool and start being productive with it very quickly. The one thing I find in common with people who relentlessly push their technology of choice is that they are totally lost once they have to step outside their comfort zone. If you want to stay relev...
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Amadiro
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Personally, I think the problem with many of the tutorials that try to rectify this problem is that they push all kinds of stuff in your face that you don't really want, like Moose or whatnot. People want perl to look modern so hard, that they make people who are just learning the language use a "post-modern" meta-obje...
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mithaldu
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At least python still has a dictator who made the language his life. I'm not sure about Ruby or Haskell, but even if they don't have that, they're fairly small and younger communities compared to Perl, so it's easier to organize. Perl started in a time when newsgroups were a thing.
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mithaldu
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How the hell did you get that idea? Perl people have been continuously writing great books about modern Perl. They're just terrible at getting Google to show them.
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frezik
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A lot of that has to do with the layers you have to learn before you can write big projects in Perl. To understand the object system, you need a solid foundation in references, subroutines, packages, and the symbol table. References, in particular, have a lot of subtlety to them. It also doesn't help that subroutine ar...
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IReadTheInternet
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The Perl Black Book is quite possibly one of the best computer books ever written.
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010101010101
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There are only two kinds of languages: the kind everybody bitches about, and the kind nobody uses. - Bjarne Stroustrup
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quit carping
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mithaldu
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Sadly at this point Perl 5 is overtaking Ruby again. With Moose it has a better object system (roles) than Ruby.
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stillalone
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Has there been any specification in OMG that hasn't been a pain in the butt to use?
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IReadTheInternet
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I don't mind that part. I minded how the Java Black Book was the size of the Yellow Pages, mostly with class and method references. I think that's more a criticism of the language than the book though. C only has about 30 keywords, and you can fit them all into your head at once!
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sa7ouri
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Happy Perl user for over 13 years here. I use it at work on an almost daily basis, as well as at home to automate some tasks. 99.9% of my Perl was/is non-CGI. Here goes my rant: The "problem" with Perl is that it's too forgiving. This problem also masquerades as a feature under the name of "Do What I Mean" (DWIM). In ...
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tomleo
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Awesome article I wish my school taught me Linux assembly instead of MASM32. I defiantly need to get around to learning it at some point.
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doomchild
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> On sysadmins: I find they write a dialect of Perl that is never meant to be reusable. Most of their code will be simple one-offs on a single line. Unfortunately, when they do need to write scripts that last a long time and will need modifications in the future, they make a big mess of it. Good Lord but that's the...
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eurleif
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We're talking about something programmers are going to be using, not end-users. What kind of programmer has never used a C compiler?
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IReadTheInternet
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Anybody who is good at Perl programming can pick up one of those languages in a week or two. The question is, why constantly switch to different languages when you're using one that you like, that does everything you need?
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multivector
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Yes, how true that is :) Don't get me started on C++.
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mr_chromatic
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> And it's particularly hard to look up the meaning of single-character operators (especially when their meaning changes based on the context). See `perldoc perlop` and `perldoc perlsyn`, especially the latter.
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johnw188
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I had one issue with error messages popping up randomly that forced me to delete some index caches in ~/Library, iirc, but once I dealt with that it's been fine. With regards to your other points, I think it comes down to an issue of being a professional user vs someone who dabbles with the system. The build settings...
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So make up your mind. Either we're talking about how easy to use and portable the code is, or we aren't. The fact is: a bash script is easier to use and has no deps, and is fully portable. You can try to play silly semantics games back and forth to seem like you won an argument on the internet, but I have no interest i...
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mr_chromatic
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> Do the perldoc examples not get you very far? I've dabbled in Perl for a bit, and the examples for XS aren't great. Sometimes they're even adequate.
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