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True | tvon | null | It's pretty ignorant to describe Jobs as being nothing more than a Salesman. | null | 0 | 1319492678 | False | 0 | c2u4m73 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4m73 | t1_c2u47x3 | null | 1427777518 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | greenspans | null | Better to focus on the community rather than obsessing over figureheads and celebrity. While the founders were incredibly important, the majority of the work, including most of the latest and greatest innovations and additions, are from the nameless workers and engineers. -- KARL MARX | null | 0 | 1319492726 | True | 0 | c2u4mh4 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4mh4 | t1_c2u4ckg | null | 1427777522 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | As an engineer, I think finding the right design can often be as hard as inventing something in the first place. There's some good anecdotes about this in the bits of Jobs' bio that have leaked. It's an incredibly intensive iterative process.
Moreover, I think Apple deserves a lot of credit for doing something in the... | null | 0 | 1319492734 | False | 0 | c2u4miq | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4miq | t1_c2u4h5w | null | 1427777522 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | More_Bacon_Strips | null | Much Thanks :) | null | 0 | 1319492735 | False | 0 | c2u4mj3 | t3_lnhkh | null | t1_c2u4mj3 | t1_c2u4feh | null | 1427777522 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bluthru | null | There's one of you fuckers in every thread about death, isn't there? | null | 0 | 1319492750 | False | 0 | c2u4mm0 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4mm0 | t1_c2u43u2 | null | 1427777522 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kenfar | null | Agreed.
I once worked for an ecommerce integration company that was fully into RUP and J2EE. I once analyzed our productivity and discovered that we were slower to develop solutions, per page, than COBOL/CICS developers from 15 years before.
Oh yeah, and we had no customer references because amidst all that model... | null | 0 | 1319492767 | False | 0 | c2u4mpn | t3_ln8jb | null | t1_c2u4mpn | t1_c2u2mwf | null | 1428185837 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | TinynDP | null | The Linux Kernel has a slightly modified GPL, that says that kernel modules, that don't require changes to the kernel itself, don't trigger the GPL.
But the reason some products make money, like Qt, is the GPL. Companies that want to develop a Qt app don't want to use the freely available GPL Qt because they would ha... | null | 0 | 1319492772 | False | 0 | c2u4mqt | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2u4mqt | t1_c2u48lu | null | 1428185837 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Gates programmed pretty much all by himself the smallest, most efficient BASIC interpreter on the market in the 80s, and that's what launched Microsoft.
Don't judge things you have no knowledge of. | null | 0 | 1319492799 | False | 0 | c2u4mvw | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4mvw | t1_c2u49qm | null | 1427777525 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | tbrownaw | null | C++ is intentionally underspecified, to allow the ABI to be as platform-specific as needed. Unfortunately, platforms don't tend to specify a C++ ABI. | null | 0 | 1319492823 | False | 0 | c2u4n0n | t3_ln8f5 | null | t1_c2u4n0n | t1_c2u2w7p | null | 1427777527 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | dagbrown | null | Dennis Ritchie's genius was in creating the C programming language and the UNIX operating system.
Steve Jobs's genius was in making people actually *want* to use UNIX. Before MacOS X, it was this scary operating system for crazy hackers and academic eggheads. Now it's the operating system that runs your *phone*.
Th... | null | 0 | 1319492825 | False | 0 | c2u4n0x | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4n0x | t1_c2u4dzu | null | 1427777527 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cenkozan | null | Did you read "Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution"? I think you should read that book first, before you make any more assumptions. It's a complete history of these names. John McCarthy were the teacher of very important MIT students, who probably made Bill Gateses and Steve Jobses meet what computer is and what ... | null | 0 | 1319492849 | False | 0 | c2u4n5h | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4n5h | t1_c2u4alk | null | 1427777535 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | shillbert | null | There probably won't be a better source until the coroner comes around and an official obituary is published. | null | 0 | 1319492879 | False | 0 | c2u4nbd | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4nbd | t1_c2u3t1s | null | 1427777529 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Heldroe | null | John McCarthy suddenly invented Lisp at home last night | null | 0 | 1319492933 | False | 0 | c2u4nm4 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4nm4 | t1_c2u42uo | null | 1427777537 | 26 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | olbeefy | null | Sorry bro, I think you've lost this one. Fuck Steve Jobs. | null | 0 | 1319492962 | False | 0 | c2u4nr4 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4nr4 | t1_c2u4h1a | null | 1427777537 | -5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | tquiring | null | reth in peath | null | 0 | 1319493045 | False | 0 | c2u4o6b | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4o6b | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777540 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | vplatt | null | Is this still true today? I haven't touched C++ in probably 10 years. I was hoping it would have improved to the point where one could write libraries with it and have those libraries be (easily) usable from any number of languages. | null | 0 | 1319493122 | False | 0 | c2u4omh | t3_ln8f5 | null | t1_c2u4omh | t1_c2u3ua1 | null | 1427777545 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | tnecniv | null | Timba with his arms wide open. | null | 0 | 1319493127 | False | 0 | c2u4onf | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4onf | t1_c2u4lj2 | null | 1427777544 | 38 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | shillbert | null | Didn't Gates write MS-DOS? | null | 0 | 1319493130 | False | 0 | c2u4ony | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4ony | t1_c2u49qm | null | 1427777544 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I still have my GW-BASIC cartridge for my PC Jr. | null | 0 | 1319493146 | False | 0 | c2u4oqt | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4oqt | t1_c2u4mvw | null | 1427777545 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | tquiring | null | McCarthyism, is that the polite way of saying "dumb ass bitch"?
edit: *facepalm* My apologies, i thought Jenny McCarthy was a joke referring to the actress that speaks out about vaccines and autism. She's the bitch.
I had no idea The father if Lisp's wife had the same name. My bad. | null | 0 | 1319493171 | True | 0 | c2u4ov1 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4ov1 | t1_c2u46zc | null | 1427777545 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | It is a sad loss to the field. | null | 0 | 1319493178 | False | 0 | c2u4owj | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4owj | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777554 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | olbeefy | null | http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/24/creator-of-lisp-john-mccarthy-dead-at-84/ | null | 0 | 1319493180 | False | 0 | c2u4ox0 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4ox0 | t1_c2u3t1s | null | 1427777554 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | shillbert | null | You're saying that every great man plays a part? Blasphemy! /s | null | 0 | 1319493182 | False | 0 | c2u4oxh | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4oxh | t1_c2u4bww | null | 1427777554 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Steve Jobs was much more involved in what Apple did then you give them credit for. Does the foreman deserve less credit for a construction job than the bricklayer? | null | 0 | 1319493248 | False | 0 | c2u4paq | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4paq | t1_c2u4dzu | null | 1427777550 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | raymond8505 | null | syntax error: You broke my heart | null | 0 | 1319493304 | False | 0 | c2u4pk6 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4pk6 | t1_c2u4cuj | null | 1427777558 | 137 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ehode | null | He did all that and still had time to referee the MMA fights. | null | 0 | 1319493348 | False | 0 | c2u4pse | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4pse | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777557 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | shillbert | null | Well, *I* still like Paul... :( | null | 0 | 1319493350 | False | 0 | c2u4pt1 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4pt1 | t1_c2u4gx7 | null | 1427777559 | 18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | > It is arguable whether that is better or worse.
Very ironic in the context of a thread about McCarthy, an inventor of a great programming language that suffers for its lack of commercialization. | null | 0 | 1319493361 | False | 0 | c2u4pv5 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4pv5 | t1_c2u4epx | null | 1427777559 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | olbeefy | null | Watch them die. | null | 0 | 1319493363 | False | 0 | c2u4pvf | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4pvf | t1_c2u4l85 | null | 1427777560 | -8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cynoclast | null | >I'm also not saying that being the creator of C or LISP is in any way not a huge accomplishment; but the idea that these "real computer scientists" are more earth shaking seems a little bit unrealistic.
I disagree. You couldn't be an informed computer scientist and believe that! At least in the case of C. C was on... | null | 0 | 1319493379 | False | 0 | c2u4pz5 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4pz5 | t1_c2u4h1a | null | 1427777563 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | SgtFish | null | They get their own respective credit.
The foreman did a good job networking. The bricklayer did a good job of building.
To stick with the analogy, the differences lie in what was being "built". | null | 0 | 1319493385 | False | 0 | c2u4q0a | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4q0a | t1_c2u4paq | null | 1427777563 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | the_red_scimitar | null | Awwwww. A great, forward looking mind at the time. Missed. | null | 0 | 1319493405 | False | 0 | c2u4q4d | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4q4d | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777562 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Poita_ | null | That just links back to hackernews, which linked to wiki, which has nothing more than the tweet and some other unverified first-hand information. | null | 0 | 1319493427 | False | 0 | c2u4q8l | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4q8l | t1_c2u4ox0 | null | 1427777563 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | unquietwiki | null | Condolences. As someone who tried to use LISP, I can get its attempt to make computing more powerful. I've read about computers were built specifically to use LISP for application development. I know Paul Graham wrote up stuff about his own uses with LISP, and Reddit 1.0 was LISP. Did Dr. McCarthy have anything to say ... | null | 0 | 1319493452 | True | 0 | c2u4qdi | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4qdi | t1_c2u4a4g | null | 1427777575 | 75 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | You're characterizing Gates and Jobs as passive investors. They were deeply involved in the creation of the products that launched their respective companies, and Jobs up to this year was intensively involved with the creation of new products.
Much of the success of Microsoft was due to Gates' incredible skills as a l... | null | 0 | 1319493469 | False | 0 | c2u4qgu | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4qgu | t1_c2u4ckg | null | 1427777565 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | sharkeyzoic | null | You've seen something a lot like his modeling language before. He's really very unoriginal. | null | 0 | 1319493475 | False | 0 | c2u4qhx | t3_ln8jb | null | t1_c2u4qhx | t1_c2u3vb9 | null | 1427777567 | 19 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | julzzrocks | null | Death comes in threes. | null | 0 | 1319493480 | False | 0 | c2u4qj0 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4qj0 | t1_c2u483q | null | 1427777567 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | olbeefy | null | Sorry, I tried. | null | 0 | 1319493487 | False | 0 | c2u4qke | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4qke | t1_c2u4q8l | null | 1427777568 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | SgtFish | null | > Steve Jobs's genius was in making people actually want to use UNIX
This is exactly what I am trying to point out. He was a master salesman; fine and dandy. I just think that actually deriving new science deserves more credit than popularizing it.
It all comes down to opinion, but I think people are missing the p... | null | 0 | 1319493499 | False | 0 | c2u4qmp | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4qmp | t1_c2u4n0x | null | 1427777568 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cynoclast | null | Hear, hear!
Computer Science lost three giants, and all we got were these pink ribbons. | null | 0 | 1319493543 | False | 0 | c2u4qvb | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4qvb | t1_c2u4az7 | null | 1427777571 | 36 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | darth_choate | null | It's valuable, but often overrated. We like to believe that good design wins, but Windows (and MS-DOS) proves that that really isn't the case. The original Mac, lest we forget, was a niche product and Apple was a completely marginal company until about 2000. It wasn't until Jobs came back for a do-over that Macs wer... | null | 0 | 1319493560 | False | 0 | c2u4qyr | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4qyr | t1_c2u4miq | null | 1427777573 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | fisch003 | null | As far as I know, yes. If you want something to be usable across language boundaries, C is still the only reliable language you can use. | null | 0 | 1319493568 | False | 0 | c2u4r04 | t3_ln8f5 | null | t1_c2u4r04 | t1_c2u4omh | null | 1427777573 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | marm0lade | null | >Gates and Jobs filtered money to people who were smart so that great things could happen.
Except that Gates was actually a developer ("people with the incredible brains"). | null | 0 | 1319493578 | False | 0 | c2u4r24 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4r24 | t1_c2u4ckg | null | 1427777573 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | cynoclast | null | ...I don't get it. | null | 0 | 1319493602 | False | 0 | c2u4r6l | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4r6l | t1_c2u4deb | null | 1427777575 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319493611 | False | 0 | c2u4r7y | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4r7y | t1_c2u4pv5 | null | 1427777575 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | lordlicorice | null | *Dr. McCarthy
(obviously) | null | 0 | 1319493622 | False | 0 | c2u4rac | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4rac | t1_c2u4qdi | null | 1427777575 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Nice try Philosophy Student | null | 0 | 1319493718 | False | 0 | c2u4rsn | t3_ln1tg | null | t1_c2u4rsn | t1_c2u41w5 | null | 1427777581 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | FusionX | null | RIP :( | null | 0 | 1319493820 | False | 0 | c2u4sbj | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4sbj | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777586 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | unquietwiki | null | Ack, I'm sorry! I'll edit | null | 0 | 1319493823 | False | 0 | c2u4sc4 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4sc4 | t1_c2u4rac | null | 1427777586 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | lordlicorice | null | Careful there. Gates went to Harvard and passed [Math 55](https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Math_55) so he knew more math as a freshman than I will probably know in my whole life. I don't bash him anymore. | null | 0 | 1319493835 | False | 0 | c2u4se8 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4se8 | t1_c2u47yz | null | 1427777588 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Yes there is. You said it's arguable whether commercialization is better or worse, but many of the downsides of using Lisp today is the lack of support that comes with lack of commercialization.
Jobs made Objective-C happen through NeXT and Apple. This otherwise pretty crappy bastardization of Smalltalk has a couple ... | null | 0 | 1319493840 | False | 0 | c2u4set | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4set | t1_c2u4r7y | null | 1427777588 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | artsrc | null | And sun isn't directly overhead at 1200. In the middle of the time zone and without daylight savings it would be, but since you are not, and it is, so it isn't. | null | 0 | 1319493863 | False | 0 | c2u4sja | t3_ln1tg | null | t1_c2u4sja | t1_c2u461n | null | 1427777588 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | tiasg | null | >I know my history. I know how much Steve Ritchie did for the tech world. He is one of the *most important figures* in tech history.
Creating video games? Nah. I'll give my vote to *Dennis* Ritchie when it comes to the Ritchies. | null | 0 | 1319493900 | False | 0 | c2u4spn | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4spn | t1_c2u4jup | null | 1427777598 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ekemp | null | Paul Graham on Hacker News (citing Peter Norvig) confirms McCarthy has died.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3151233 | null | 0 | 1319493970 | False | 0 | c2u4t38 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4t38 | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777594 | 18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | flipcoder | null | nice | null | 0 | 1319493986 | False | 0 | c2u4t6b | t3_ll65v | null | t1_c2u4t6b | t1_c2tzpsc | null | 1427777596 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | thephotoman | null | Without Gates and Jobs, that fundamental mathematical truth would be locked away somewhere.
Gates and Jobs took that mathematical truth to the people, where it became *useful*. | null | 0 | 1319493998 | False | 0 | c2u4t8b | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4t8b | t1_c2u47yz | null | 1427777597 | -4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | A foreman doesn't "network." He has the big-picture vision of the job in his head and directs people to work accordingly. He makes sure people are working in the same direction and that the job is getting done right.
This is what Jobs did at Apple. We wasn't some passive PHB that took credit for products entirely cre... | null | 0 | 1319494000 | False | 0 | c2u4t8h | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4t8h | t1_c2u4q0a | null | 1427777597 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Steve Jobs is a businessman, Dennis Ritchie and John McCarthy did the important stuff. | null | 0 | 1319494006 | False | 0 | c2u4t9p | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4t9p | t1_c2u4r6l | null | 1428185835 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | OdwordCollon | null | Shit, someone should go check on Don Knuth. He does NOT get to die before he finishes TAOCP | null | 0 | 1319494044 | False | 0 | c2u4tgl | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4tgl | t1_c2u4l85 | null | 1427777600 | 91 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | raindogmx | null | Show some respect.
He didn't die so you could compare your insecurities. | null | 0 | 1319494158 | False | 0 | c2u4u19 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4u19 | t1_c2u43u2 | null | 1427777607 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | therealprotonk | null | I think you miss the whole point of Apple when you denigrate them as being driven by pure salesmanship. | null | 0 | 1319494164 | False | 0 | c2u4u23 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4u23 | t1_c2u4qmp | null | 1427777608 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | SuperBlooper057 | null | ~~I'm getting suspicious that a robot uprising is about to start. Why would so many technological innovators die all around the same time? They must be preparing.~~
***ALL HAIL OUR NEW ROBOT OVERLORDS*** | null | 0 | 1319494181 | False | 0 | c2u4u5c | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4u5c | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777610 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | SgtFish | null | ... I would definitely say that is a form of networking.
And I would like to re-iterate, yet again, that my point is not that people like Steve are unimportant, rather the amount of praise they deserve for what they accomplished is on a different scale than someone who accomplished a vision in their head on their own. | null | 0 | 1319494213 | False | 0 | c2u4ub4 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4ub4 | t1_c2u4t8h | null | 1427777611 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | vytah | null | Nope, he bought it. | null | 0 | 1319494230 | False | 0 | c2u4uec | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4uec | t1_c2u4ony | null | 1427777612 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | artsrc | null | Joda time does it more right. Java does this more wrong.
People express different things about time. For example you can't say Christmas is on the 25th of December with GregorianCalendar.
java.util.Date expresses an instant in time which has different names in different places. Calendar adds a place which tells yo... | null | 0 | 1319494245 | False | 0 | c2u4ugv | t3_ln1tg | null | t1_c2u4ugv | t1_c2u36xn | null | 1427777613 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Benutzername | null | >Know what's gonna suck? Having to account for relativistic motion
There's already a [coordinate system](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barycentric_Coordinate_Time), compensating for relativistic time dilation. In order to translate that to the local time, you would need to know the local metric. | null | 0 | 1319494283 | False | 0 | c2u4uo6 | t3_ln1tg | null | t1_c2u4uo6 | t1_c2u1w8e | null | 1427777616 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | It's under appreciated how much this guy shaped the programming languages we use today. E.g. the first paper on garbage collection: http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/recursive.pdf | null | 0 | 1319494307 | False | 0 | c2u4uss | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4uss | t3_lnhno | null | 1428185833 | 40 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | phunphun | null | I still don't get it, but that's because I don't know Lisp. | null | 0 | 1319494354 | False | 0 | c2u4v25 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4v25 | t1_c2u4kxk | null | 1427777626 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | stower | null | He bought it
["Gates bought Paterson's program, called QDOS, for $50,000, renamed it DOS, improved it, and licensed it to IBM for a low per-copy royalty fee."](http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_43/b3905109_mz063.htm) | null | 0 | 1319494357 | False | 0 | c2u4v2u | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4v2u | t1_c2u4ony | null | 1427777626 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Tomis01 | null | Gates was (and still is) and incredibly technical guy. I'm not sure Jobs ever wrote a single line of code. | null | 0 | 1319494363 | False | 0 | c2u4v40 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4v40 | t1_c2u47yz | null | 1427777626 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | SgtFish | null | > ... point of Apple ...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm talking the accomplishments of Steve Jobs. | null | 0 | 1319494392 | False | 0 | c2u4va6 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4va6 | t1_c2u4u23 | null | 1427777628 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Shadow703793 | null | I haven't looked in to Lisp, but in the modern world, for what and where is it used? | null | 0 | 1319494437 | False | 0 | c2u4viz | t3_lnhkh | null | t1_c2u4viz | t1_c2u4feh | null | 1427777641 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Tomis01 | null | Jobs was not a technical person. Gates, on the other hand, is. Don't put them in the same bucket. | null | 0 | 1319494484 | False | 0 | c2u4vrs | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4vrs | t1_c2u49qm | null | 1428185831 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Quazifuji | null | >Without the businessmen, the intellectuals would have accomplished as much or more.
Not necessarily, though, because commercialization motivates the development of affordable technological devices, which benefits research quite a bit. Take the Kinect, for example. Microsoft developed it because they knew there w... | null | 0 | 1319494512 | True | 0 | c2u4vx1 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4vx1 | t1_c2u4epx | null | 1427777638 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | muuh-gnu | null | (save-lisp-and-die) | null | 0 | 1319494566 | False | 0 | c2u4w7l | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4w7l | t1_c2u471l | null | 1427777644 | 48 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jarocho | null | I hope you're not counting Steve Jobs. | null | 0 | 1319494612 | False | 0 | c2u4wfi | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4wfi | t1_c2u4qvb | null | 1427777646 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | God to Bjarne Stroustrup:
***YOU'RE NEXT*** | null | 0 | 1319494638 | False | 0 | c2u4wk8 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4wk8 | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777646 | -6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | warmandfuzzy | null | Kadir beneath Mo Moteh | null | 0 | 1319494642 | False | 0 | c2u4wkw | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4wkw | t1_c2u4lj2 | null | 1427777646 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | pg1989 | null | Not to be a pedant (who am I kidding?) but Gates actually did publish a paper in a mathematics journal as an undergrad. It was on the [burnt pancake problem](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pancake_sorting#Burnt_pancake_problem). | null | 0 | 1319494728 | False | 0 | c2u4x24 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4x24 | t1_c2u47yz | null | 1427777651 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jarocho | null | :( | null | 0 | 1319494747 | False | 0 | c2u4x5k | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4x5k | t1_c2u4tgl | null | 1427777652 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Quazifuji | null | >Personally, I don't think that a person should be glorified just because they came to be in control of a lot of money.
Of course not, but they do deserve credit for spending that money in a way that greatly benefited the development of technology. And besides, Bill Gates and Steve Jobs came into their money in th... | null | 0 | 1319494778 | False | 0 | c2u4xbl | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4xbl | t1_c2u4dzu | null | 1427777653 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | wavegeekman | null | (reduce #'+ (mapcar #'measure-achievement (lifes-work JM)))
=> large positive number. | null | 0 | 1319494803 | False | 0 | c2u4xg5 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4xg5 | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777655 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | NTMLVF | null | Their core mistake is that they wish to make it executable.
They had a choice... making diagrams that concentrated on making a system visualizable, understandable generalizing and hiding irrelavent detail...
or.. adding more and more and more detail until the diagrams were exectuable.
They made the wrong choice.
| null | 0 | 1319494815 | False | 0 | c2u4xi2 | t3_ln8jb | null | t1_c2u4xi2 | t3_ln8jb | null | 1427777655 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | crotchpoozie | null | And those discovering fundamental mathematical truth would often not do so without financial benefactors.
Neither Ritchie nor McCarthy would have had the leisure or resources to do what they did without the money people like Gates and Jobs (or in these cases Bell Labs or public funded universities and government grant... | null | 0 | 1319494866 | True | 0 | c2u4xrh | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4xrh | t1_c2u47yz | null | 1427777657 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | elder_george | null | By 'freedom of code' I meant freedom in the meaning of Stallman et al (AKA 'libre') - 'freedom from being expropriated and closed by single entity'.
And yes, I agree, 'freedom of code' limits freedom of developer (and/or his employer) et vice versa.
I'm not a huge fan of FSF but they do relatively well on their main ... | null | 0 | 1319494897 | False | 0 | c2u4xxv | t3_llw0s | null | t1_c2u4xxv | t1_c2u4m1h | null | 1427777658 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | paul_harrison | null | Incorrect, it just means you were unable to reject the null hypothesis. A difference could exist, you just weren't able to detect it. | null | 0 | 1319494900 | False | 0 | c2u4xya | t3_lnevu | null | t1_c2u4xya | t1_c2u3cx2 | null | 1427777658 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | You know, if you're in a CS program, there's a reason it's in the Faculty of Mathematics. If you didn't want to be writing a ton of proofs, don't go into math.
If you want to use linked lists to do something useful, join the Software Engineering program. In the mean time, get back to figuring out whether P = NP! | null | 0 | 1319494946 | False | 0 | c2u4y6s | t3_ln1tg | null | t1_c2u4y6s | t1_c2u0u5x | null | 1427777660 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Drainedsoul | null | Why is this at -3...? | null | 0 | 1319494974 | False | 0 | c2u4yda | t3_ln47v | null | t1_c2u4yda | t3_ln47v | null | 1427777664 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | frezik | null | His plan for TAOCP is so long, I don't see how he could do otherwise. It's important to have ambitious, unreachable goals, I suppose. | null | 0 | 1319495121 | False | 0 | c2u4z3w | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4z3w | t1_c2u4tgl | null | 1427777674 | 41 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Mad_Gouki | null | Sorry for your loss, John was an amazing mind and he made my life better by creating LISP :) | null | 0 | 1319495129 | False | 0 | c2u4z55 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4z55 | t1_c2u4a4g | null | 1427777684 | 50 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | rangitatanz | null | Zombie DK might finish it. Every example suddenly contains 'brains' | null | 0 | 1319495199 | False | 0 | c2u4zhu | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4zhu | t1_c2u4z3w | null | 1428185828 | 40 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319495249 | False | 0 | c2u4zqz | t3_lnn6n | null | t1_c2u4zqz | t3_lnn6n | null | 1427777687 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | frezik | null | Look how awesome I am for bashing [popular person/thing]. | null | 0 | 1319495254 | False | 0 | c2u4zrv | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u4zrv | t1_c2u43u2 | null | 1427777687 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Leockard | null | Syntax error (unclosed paren | null | 0 | 1319495341 | False | 0 | c2u5084 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u5084 | t1_c2u496v | null | 1427777692 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Really_Likes_Nutella | null | So many of the fathers of modern computing are dying.
Who do we have now to carry on their legacy? | null | 0 | 1319495352 | False | 0 | c2u509z | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u509z | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777692 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Figs | null | Don't forget to account for relativity... \*trollface\* | null | 0 | 1319495386 | False | 0 | c2u50gi | t3_ln1tg | null | t1_c2u50gi | t3_ln1tg | null | 1427777701 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1319495420 | True | 0 | c2u50m2 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u50m2 | t1_c2u4wfi | null | 1427777697 | -18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | therealprotonk | null | And if Apple produced a transformative product from 1985-1997 I'd agree with you that the metonymy is unwarranted. But most of Apple's disruptive technology products have been made while Jobs was at the helm. | null | 0 | 1319495432 | False | 0 | c2u50oi | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u50oi | t1_c2u4va6 | null | 1427777697 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | arnar | null | Let's not forget that men like Jobs make sure people are willing to fund men like Ritchie and McCarthy. | null | 0 | 1319495482 | False | 0 | c2u50xs | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u50xs | t1_c2u4t9p | null | 1427777709 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Someone is assassinating high profile CS icons... | null | 0 | 1319495610 | True | 0 | c2u51j9 | t3_lnhno | null | t1_c2u51j9 | t3_lnhno | null | 1427777713 | 17 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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