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avecbells
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Even without the name in the text, if you've read him before, you'd easily know it by style. It made me want to work at Google for the first time; I miss Steve's verbosity. Come back Steve Yegge.
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ruinercollector
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I always wonder if between all the laughing and remixing, if most people managed to take away the real significance of Steve Balmer's Developers chant.
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starspangledpickle
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I agree with you entirely. The lack of terminal emulation is really sad, as Powershell is also gimped by the lacklustre emulation of the old DOS commandline. Indeed, back in the day you *could* use ANSI escape codes but not any more. One other approach -- assuming I understand your intent correctly -- is to use netcat...
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devynci
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Shaw has uncapped plans that are not too bad. Have you looked?
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WinterAyars
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But they couldn't integrate it into gmail because neither of them are services...
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ISV_Damocles
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My own thoughts on Dart. I actually like most languages I learn (even BASIC), but I don't pretend that there's one language to rule them all, just DSLs of various, probably-overlapping domains. I think constructive criticism of Dart is better than just brushing it off, so I've provided my thoughts on how to improve t...
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phaker
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If you don't think your comment is adding enough value to the discussion to make it worth *clicking twice*, please send it using the [cancel] button.
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paniq
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GW-Basic and QBasic were my first programming languages. Good times. But I believe you can do without dollar signs in QBasic. GW-Basic definitely required them.
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phughes
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Fortunately (for people like me who hate ads) they are against Apple's developer agreement. Tricks like this will very quickly land you outside of the walled garden, which means your club gets to remain exclusive.
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ruinercollector
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I don't think that people are complaining about the Dart 0.01 Optimizer so much as they are complaining about the complete lack thereof.
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paniq
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Classy, Reddit. Downvoting me just because I'm trolling.
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ruinercollector
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A good bit of the static analysis that needs to occur for optimization is not concerned with types. What's more important is references/callers/callees. Eval presents an especially fun problem. (Though the simple answer would be "you eval, you get the whole lib.")
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WinterAyars
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You can tell it's Steve Yegge when he makes a stale, predictable joke and you still laugh for a good half-minute.
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Poddster
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C compilers also mangle names differently for each compiler.
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zyzzogeton
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You my friend, have never used Perl. A programmer friend of mine and I (really him) wrote a simple program that for the past 11+ years serves up 80% of the images people see of their checks when they do online banking. It has hardly been touched for 5 years.
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Terr_
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It's almost as if we could make our jobs easier by reusing well-tested bits of code, perhaps organized into a sort of code, uh... code *library*, which then this other computer program would somehow... somehow pick out what we said we wanted and bring them together *for* us... Nah, never mind, obviously the post-punchc...
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munificent
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> => means "return"... bit weird <= would make more sense... `return` means "return" in Dart. `=>` is for declaring a single-expression lambda function. Like lambdas in other languages, `=>` functions in Dart implicitly return the result of their body. > A setter can have a return type and a warning...
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betamos
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I found this link after reading the monospaced gist. I feel like crying…
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icebraining
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Wouldn't a mailing list work just as well? (especially for the first case)
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ISV_Damocles
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Because that's the nature of the web. If you couldn't read the HTML, CSS, and JS that composed the pages you were viewing, the web wouldn't have become nearly the phenomenon it is today because it wouldn't have been accessible to everyday people, especially kids who might not think they're capable of programming until ...
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luckystarr
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More legible anyway.
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tcoxon
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Please no.
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Timmmmbob
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It's not really the same though is it... As far as I've heard those are kind of speculative warnings, like you might get from a static analyser. I.e. if there are no warnings you still might get type errors when you run it. Also it means the compiler can't take advantage of knowledge of the types—`int`s still have to ...
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cunningjames
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> Syntax is just an implementation detail. Not to make any comment one way or the other about Perl, but there's rather more to a language itself than its syntax.
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aaaxxxlll
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> They work for 1/3 your cost > Measurement of cost irrespective of value delivered Um. You just break up your hourly rates into roles. Senior/Architect role gets paid high rate (because of high delivered value). Junior roles get paid 1/3 the high rate. If the client really really doesn't want any pesky que...
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snorkelman
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There are a lot of different ways to automate a session. The way you describe, or plink for another example, are one way. The main reason I prefer automating putty itself is that I get a full-featured interactive terminal emulator, along with all its nice features - like logging, full curses support, ssh/serial port/te...
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Gotebe
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Indeed, this is the standard node of operation. However, I honestly don't think that having just an extern declaration is so bad. Especially with so-called "emerging reuse". So I have a code artifact that's used in 2-3 translation units, in a project with 50. The way I see it, there's three ways to "reuse" that: * dec...
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quotability
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well, TIL
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FatStig
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I picked up python to do a simple project a few months back. Mid way through I had to switch machines from the virtual machine we developed on to a laptop for demonstration. Boy was it a godawful configuration nightmare. I ended up rewriting the simple graph statistic script in perl instead of figuring out how to get t...
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magnakai
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True, you could do something like this: DIM mystring AS STRING mystring = "Hello World" PRINT my string (From [here](http://www.neilstuff.com/qb/qbtut1.htm))
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darksonxd
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Loved the article and how this gamification schemes create interesting and attractive applications. Such as reddit itself :)
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magnakai
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True, you could do something like this: DIM mystring AS STRING mystring = "Hello World" PRINT mystring (From [here](http://www.neilstuff.com/qb/qbtut1.htm))
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an_eggman
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That's nice, but what does it have to do with my comment?
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Gotebe
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Did you try un-optimizing only sources you need for debugging? Takes some chasing the files you need to build unoptimized, but result is good.
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_asterisk
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It's in some ways a browser issue. Chrome word-wraps the text. Firefox does not. Also this isn't source code, it's a rant. Using plain text for articles in 2011 is frankly moronic.
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mcguire
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...right up to the point where you've released the credit card numbers into the wild and you're back to "no product at all".
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staticfish
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Pointing out the flaws in something doesn't mean you are invalidating your argument.
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hyperforce
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Yegge. Popular programmer blogger.
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WinterAyars
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Oh come on, now... That's really the whole Gnome team, it's unfair to blame Unity just because it's hateful and useless.
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mcguire
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Actually, having written that, I realized it's not true. I don't think there's been any serious consequences to any organization that has had a major security breach. Sure, public relations fluff-ups, but even those haven't been especially major. -1
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kenj0418
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Yep - Shazam has always been something that seemed like a cool idea, but that I'd never actually used other than to test it. This just gave me the motivation to finally delete it.
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[deleted]
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Complaining about the Dart optimizer at this point is indeed silly and pointless. But criticism of Dart-the-language is very relevant, and the language seems so fundamentally broken to me that starting from scratch is the only viable option.
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cyberpants
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Not only is the subject matter absolutely fascinating, but the man has a tremendous knack for entertaining writing. WILL be reading more from this chap from now on. Would love to see a retort from this ~~Bozo~~, sorry, Bezo chap - see what he has to say for himself.
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JohnDoe365
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Seems like it's getting time for sthg. new and simple.
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omgroflcopter
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Carefully observing the checkboxes after pressing "randomize", it seems that nobody thinks my language is faster than Ruby, but apparently some people think it's faster than C. I am confused...
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mushishi
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Thank you. I was surprised that there is even this large community. I would have hoped to get a bit better glimpse of why are the people involved (e.g. design rationale for haXe), and what are future plans. Also it's important to know what is the painful points (like in Java no proper lambdas). I am curious enough to...
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arnar
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I'm curious: Why? Because you think it is absurd, or obvious? I'm a security researcher, and I heartily agree with him. Edit: Sorry, perhaps it was the PS Network jab. I'm dumb.
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Negitivefrags
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Regardless of his teaching methods, that is an awesome idea for a college assignment!
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ysangkok
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but he's mentioning it as a odd effect of their system. it's not like that everywhere else.
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yacoob
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This rant is about something else. It's about Google developing different "platforms" so to speak - their own, for running their own products, and one, slightly wobbly and creaked for other folks to use. Lots of companies do exactly that and they're just fine - it's just that we have good examples of companies that did...
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[deleted]
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I guess you could screenshot it or something. Plain-text is pretty malleable.
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metroid23
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Also consider that Zynga's business model is "Do evil." :<
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cunningjames
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> Come on, the guys at Google are pushing out a 0.0.1 proof-of-concept and you’re complaining that their optimizer isn’t acceptable? I don't understand -- haven't ever understood -- why Google insists on releasing so early; why not wait until they have a more mature product to which this kind of easy criticism does...
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PatrickTulskie
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I didn't get any ads and I have Shazam installed. I just deleted it though… I never used it and it's obvious they think they can just push whatever the hell they want to my phone.
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Marzhall
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I had the most programming fun out of all of my classes in that class - but only because the assignments were good. His "teaching" was comparable to saying "RTFM".
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yacoob
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They're not the same thing. Or rather: they should use the same mechanism to determine quality/health of the service. "monitoring" is a mean to an end. One of the ends is reliability. Other: quality assurance.
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yacoob
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When I was your age, walls of text were much higher :P
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icebraining
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In fact, I'd say this is more a business strategy lesson than CS. CS may tell you how to develop a service/platform, but it won't tell *why* that is important.
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hobbified
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I actually do use it, and think it comes in handy ­— but for the past few months I've been using SoundHound instead. It does the same stuff and more, and isn't obnoxious.
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>The point is that human ingenuity is neither special nor untouchable, Actually, human ingenuity is both these things, and it would be absurd to say otherwise. To say that it's not untouchable is far more speculative than saying that it is, because to this point, no other species or machine has come anywhere clos...
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bernlin2000
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Only in /r/programming would a redditor post a .txt file and get upvoted ಠ\_ಠ
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washort
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did he play counterstrike in an alternate universe where all its players were mature and polite?
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grelphy
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Bullshit. If I took a popular, well-supported language and rot13'd all the keywords, it would instantly become much harder to use and much less popular, even though nothing else changed. If I wrote a variant of Lisp which reversed open and close parens, same. Syntax is not "just" an implementation detail; it has an imm...
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rich97
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It's OK, I'm sure there is plenty of stuff in my comment history that is way dumber than that.
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strolls
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I thought he was yelling that at the crowd of independent developers, saying "we support you guys! you're important to us!"
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Cool, TIL!
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wycks
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Nail just Google +'d head.
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ryanklee
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It doesn't look like [a website](http://www.awebsite.net/) has the info you're after. :(
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artsrc
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Yes CoffeeScript needs no separate runtime library. I was more thinking about the rejection of features that make call by continuation less nested. Something similar to .net asynch.
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strolls
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Yeah, but in walling the G+ garden it prevents anyone else creating the gadgets that would attract the girls to G+. robertodeltoro is somewhat right in saying "solution without a problem", but Steve (the submission rant) is also right in pointing out the ridiculousness of Google hiring a company to make games for G+. ...
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ronocdh
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This is insanely fast! I love the arrow key navigation.
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cynope
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I was just about to post something similar. Without the platform, Facebook would in fact be just another MySpace. They would've been much easier to replace.
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ericksoa
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The alternative I am proposing is to fund the team per sprint. Or at least on a per sprint basis. Decide whether you want to continue at retrospective at the end if each sprint, decide to fund some N number, I don't care. But lets get out of micromanaging the staffing and funding projects based on the same kind of way ...
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TNorthover
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I think that was an intentional decision. I can't quite remember where I read it, but the idea was to encourage platforms to adopt weird and wonderful schemes. Procedure calling standards are unlikely to be compatible anyway, and if the mangling's completely different you're not going to produce a dodgy executable be...
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seydar
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I never saw the video. Would you mind giving a tl;dw?
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drakeypoo
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Well that's a relief!
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kamatsu
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Significant whitespace. Language specific IDE.
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taw
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That's not meant for security, a lot of /admin/ stuff is boring unsecured things like web statistics that's not even password-protected, but nobody wants that in search engines.
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Disgruntled__Goat
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Readable version on G+ - https://plus.google.com/112678702228711889851/posts/eVeouesvaVX
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> I apologize to those (many) of you for whom all this stuff I'm saying is incredibly obvious, because yeah. It's incredibly frigging obvious. Except we're not doing it. Which is interesting in itself, why they are not doing it.
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phaker
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> A little off topic, but why is it so untrendy to have/like a java-like syntax? The hatred for braces seems to constantly be blown out of proportion. I don't think there are any problems with braces/semicolons. It's just that they don't really add any value. Take line continuation: most sane people indent code wh...
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jamiei
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Indeed, the quote out of context (if you hadn't read it) can be taken too literally, he says later: "at which point it's indistinguishable from automated QA."
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TNorthover
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Interestingly, quite a lot of programs rely on dodgy aspects of this, at least in C. I believe libffi, for example (it's not alone), relies on being able to declare and call a function as variadic, but define it with actual parameters (in a different compilation unit). This was possibly valid K&R C, but isn't in ...
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epicviking
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This rant would be something like 160 drunk texts.
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gthank
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And of course I mangled the title… this is about namespaces, not schemas.
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SuperDuckQ
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It could, but again the critical point is: what can we get everyone to agree on using? Somehow, some way, that ended up being Wave.
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hyperforce
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Poor leadership.
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gospelwut
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Or it could be a way to inject an XSS attack like the AmEx incident? Or a portal login to the CMS that I saw at one of our not-to-be-named competitors (with a weak password)? My point is it's not always innocuous. Why they don't have their .htaccess setup is beyond me though.
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Sargos
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Novel authors have this problem too. Sometimes they learn a lot about their own book just by listening to a professor derive the meanings of the universe from their work.
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epicviking
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You know, I'd imagine guys like Bezos are always kind of miserable. Hes probably privately kind of insecure and obsesses over every little failure. I don't think he ever says "fuck it I'm Jeff Bezos, I'm a multi billionaire and I'm CEO of Amazon, I'm awesome". He might do it in public or in front of those in his emp...
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shoeman22
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I really like the idea of platforms, but this was kind of an eye opener to just how critical they are. For internal projects though, isn't it going to be much less efficient? I mean say you're amazon and you expose a webservice to get all the products in your catalog. Are you really supposed to make an HTTP call t...
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phaker
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It's hard to work in vacuum. It's incredibly hard to guess what people want, and if you ask them it often turns out that they are wrong too. The point of "release early, release often" is that making something everybody hates and then asking them what's wrong with it is faster than trying to guess. Also regarding dar...
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vintermann
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Calendar is ... problematic. I don't know why I eat that dog food, it's not even my own. But my recurring events keep disappearing, and my Android tablet for some bizarre reasons gives notifications two hours before my Android phone (which, thankfully, gives them when it should. When they haven't disappeared).
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seydar
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Google called me. Went on a first date. Thought it went well. Then they never called. So I called. And they were like "Oh sorry I thought I told you, we're not interested in you in any way shape or form."
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taw
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Even if your setup is 100% secure you want /admin/ in robots.txt Shit like /admin/login.html /admin/help/index.html etc. all exist in /admin/ namespace under a lot of setups. This has nothing to do with security.
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shimei
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> but why is it so untrendy to have/like a java-like syntax? My problem isn't with the Java-style syntax. It's the Java-style semantics.
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vintermann
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> If everyone had dropped e-mail, chat, word processing, blogging, etc, and moved to wave In short, if Google had eaten their own dog food first.
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