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True | mikesamuel | null | Thanks. I had no idea such a subreddit existed. | null | 0 | 1318344742 | False | 0 | c2qkyze | t3_l7bjb | null | t1_c2qkyze | t1_c2qk8sl | null | 1427716042 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | onionhammer | null | What you do with the javascript after it's 'compiled' is up to you.. you can treat it like any other javascript, minify it, PACK it, etc. | null | 0 | 1318344802 | False | 0 | c2qkzah | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qkzah | t1_c2qkexi | null | 1427716046 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jdiez17 | null | Yeah, but unless it's something that you'd have to work around in JS, it'll probably mean that you wilk have to load more than 2.3k of Dart Javascript. This will probably be useful in big-ass projects (which you shouldn't be doing in JS anyway) and speeding up scripting in the browser, and the library would only be use... | null | 0 | 1318344882 | False | 0 | c2qkzpl | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qkzpl | t1_c2qj3sg | null | 1427716051 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | adavies42 | null | is it necessarily an exact ascii match in all locales? e.g. i know some locales have lots of different codepoints that can match under some conditions (accent/non-accent, composed accented/non-, "presentation forms", whatever they are....). are there locales where "abcde" could match more than one distinct five-byte se... | null | 0 | 1318344917 | False | 0 | c2qkzvx | t3_l6xnp | null | t1_c2qkzvx | t1_c2qdkoh | null | 1427716053 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mikesamuel | null | Yeah, I could. | null | 0 | 1318344925 | False | 0 | c2qkzxe | t3_l7bjb | null | t1_c2qkzxe | t1_c2qjyxg | null | 1427716054 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | chloratine | null | it's - it's - **its** - **its** - it's | null | 0 | 1318344952 | False | 0 | c2ql02d | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql02d | t1_c2qkllj | null | 1427716056 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | zip117 | null | > IE6 is 10 years old, and we're probably going to be supporting it for 5-10 years to come, at least.
Only if you work for a bank, but probably not. IE 5.5 was released in July 2000, IE 6 about a year later in August 2001. Do you still see anyone supporting IE 5.5? | null | 0 | 1318345136 | False | 0 | c2ql119 | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2ql119 | t1_c2qkwef | null | 1427716068 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | yogthos | null | Design patterns are templates that often signal a deficiency in the language, where in one language you might have to use a pattern, it may be trivial or invisible in another. Peter Norvig and Paul Graham both explain this rather well, [here](http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DesignPatternsInDynamicProgramming) and [here](http://... | null | 0 | 1318345207 | False | 0 | c2ql1dd | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql1dd | t1_c2qkmao | null | 1427716073 | 21 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1318345209 | False | 0 | c2ql1dq | t3_l6uwv | null | t1_c2ql1dq | t1_c2qbjv7 | null | 1427716073 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | adavies42 | null | a lot of systems still ship with a grep that runs "basic" regexps by default; egrep always gives you more or less modern "extended" regexps (where all the metacharacters are typed literally, instead of with backslashes, among other things).
(fgrep is for fixed strings, and is much, much faster if you know you don't ne... | null | 0 | 1318345268 | False | 0 | c2ql1op | t3_l6xnp | null | t1_c2ql1op | t1_c2qccwp | null | 1427716078 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kyrsfw | null | Because no browser supports this. And if you had a way to make all of them implement a new feature for you, you could also just get them to implement your language instead of compiling to JS and having to deal with this crap (which is Google's plan for Dart). | null | 0 | 1318345369 | False | 0 | c2ql25z | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2ql25z | t1_c2qkmgd | null | 1427716084 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | astrangeguy | null | I'll agree with him that Dart isn't an interesting language and hope that it won't be the language of the future, but his reasons for that are stupid.
Dart having optional types is the only remotely interesting thing in a language that:
* still has a Java-like class-based pseudo object system (with wonderfully bad id... | null | 0 | 1318345383 | True | 0 | c2ql28e | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql28e | t3_l88ny | null | 1427716085 | 52 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1318345423 | False | 0 | c2ql2eh | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql2eh | t1_c2qkvoj | null | 1427716086 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1318345424 | True | 0 | c2ql2eq | t3_l6uwv | null | t1_c2ql2eq | t1_c2qbhbl | null | 1427716086 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | __j_random_hacker | null | In your example, it's clear to me that recursion would be a nicer way to solve the problem. But for the particular example the article cited -- static constructors -- if that is not the best way to solve the problem (of wanting to construct an object satisfying some interface without knowing at compile time what concr... | null | 0 | 1318345471 | False | 0 | c2ql2mm | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql2mm | t1_c2qkwwp | null | 1427716089 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ascii | null | All members seem to be changed into getter/setter pairs. That alone should double the size of an average code base. | null | 0 | 1318345529 | False | 0 | c2ql2xi | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2ql2xi | t1_c2qi8a8 | null | 1427716093 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ash_gti | null | I think it works both ways. Languages influence design patterns and reuse of certain code.
Look at double dispatch, that was 'solved' in lisp by implementing multi-methods, so don't have to use the double dispatch design pattern and you can simplify your object representation as a result.
Other patterns, like the i... | null | 0 | 1318345758 | False | 0 | c2ql433 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql433 | t1_c2qkmao | null | 1427716109 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | BlitzTech | null | This argument really aggravates me. It's time to embed something else in the browser so we can get away from Javascript if we want; it's not the best language, and certainly not the best language for the Web, and it being "good enough" is a terrible excuse to obstinately refuse to try to modernize it with something lik... | null | 0 | 1318345819 | False | 0 | c2ql4df | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql4df | t1_c2qkq0z | null | 1427716113 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | jevon | null | If you think that's funny, just wait until you see Hello World in Java, when you include the source code of rt.jar...
(rolls eyes) | null | 0 | 1318345831 | False | 0 | c2ql4fq | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2ql4fq | t1_c2qiqsj | null | 1427716113 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Oh i just think its interesting when people don't completely sanitize their routing properly, so you could hypothetically google-bomb somebody with something like [http://canyouxssthis.com/;Gay-Porn-Central](http://canyouxssthis.com/;Gay-Porn-Central) | null | 0 | 1318345898 | False | 0 | c2ql4r9 | t3_l7bjb | null | t1_c2ql4r9 | t1_c2qigdi | null | 1427716118 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | afiefh | null | Oh didn't say both features aren't good. What I'm saying is that they aren't for beginners who are learning the language.
Of course if a beginner reaches a point of needing if error goto cleanup he is probably ready for a lesson in exceptions(including the big lesson about when they can be problematic) | null | 0 | 1318345906 | False | 0 | c2ql4sj | t3_l7gl3 | null | t1_c2ql4sj | t1_c2qks0y | null | 1427716118 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | dmrnj | null | So what? It's hosted by Google's CDN which is probably faster than yours, has approprite headers to maximize caching, distributes the resource on a different domain your dns has cached to minimize any same-domain concurrent download restrictions, etc... | null | 0 | 1318345952 | False | 0 | c2ql51y | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2ql51y | t1_c2qk6ar | null | 1427716121 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | recursive | null | > Really? I thought they were to solve common problems in an easily repeatable way. I thought they are like well designed and vetted recipes for commonly made cakes so you don't have to keep inventing new ones every time you throw a party.
False dichotomy. If that recipe was built into the language, you wouldn't n... | null | 0 | 1318345978 | False | 0 | c2ql56d | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql56d | t1_c2qkmao | null | 1427716123 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1318345999 | False | 0 | c2ql5ac | t3_l864l | null | t1_c2ql5ac | t3_l864l | null | 1427716124 | -13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | BlitzTech | null | Even though I make heavy use of "truthy" and "falsy" values, I can definitely get behind this. The "fast-and-loose" style is nice, but I'd gladly give that up for a more rigid type system and real compilation.
Too bad that's not the tradeoff in Dart... | null | 0 | 1318346037 | False | 0 | c2ql5hr | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql5hr | t1_c2qkvoj | null | 1427716127 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | astrangeguy | null | Compiling to Javascript only means that they can't have tail calls in constant space and cannot have continuations. Other than that, they are compiling Dart into a better language. | null | 0 | 1318346042 | False | 0 | c2ql5ip | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql5ip | t1_c2qkq0z | null | 1427716127 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | True to that. I'm no fan of X to boolean coercion. | null | 0 | 1318346042 | False | 0 | c2ql5iq | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql5iq | t1_c2qkvoj | null | 1427716127 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MereInterest | null | As I understood it, the intention of Dart was to become a fully supported language akin to JavaScript. However, no one will start using it if none of the current browsers support it, and no browser will support it if no one uses it. To get around this problem, the current implementation is as a cross-compiling to Jav... | null | 0 | 1318346097 | False | 0 | c2ql5sj | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2ql5sj | t1_c2qkfex | null | 1427716131 | 16 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | retinascan | null | ahh so in the jsp, you've got a list of tags you're supplying. I assume anchor tags are allowed? | null | 0 | 1318346181 | False | 0 | c2ql67d | t3_l7bjb | null | t1_c2ql67d | t1_c2qj2h6 | null | 1427716136 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mikesamuel | null | Ah. Makes sense. I am interested in the security properties of the HTML->HTML transformation though. The details of the server on which it runs are incidental. | null | 0 | 1318346187 | False | 0 | c2ql68c | t3_l7bjb | null | t1_c2ql68c | t1_c2ql4r9 | null | 1427716137 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MarshallBanana | null | It's *supposed* to be an early release, to get people involved with the project. | null | 0 | 1318346236 | False | 0 | c2ql6h7 | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2ql6h7 | t1_c2qize4 | null | 1427716140 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MarshallBanana | null | It's *not done yet*, people. This is an early release. It gets the job done, it does not do so terribly gracefully **yet**. | null | 0 | 1318346299 | False | 0 | c2ql6s2 | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2ql6s2 | t3_l7wry | null | 1427716144 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MatrixFrog | null | Methods are a bad idea? Or do you just mean static methods? | null | 0 | 1318346439 | False | 0 | c2ql7ih | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql7ih | t1_c2ql28e | null | 1427716153 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | matthiasB | null | > has no anonymous functions in 2011 (WTF?!?)
According to 10.8 of the spec it actually has.
var next = (int x) { return x+1; };
// Dart's alternative function syntax works for function literals as well:
var next2 = (int x) => x+1; | null | 0 | 1318346453 | False | 0 | c2ql7l6 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql7l6 | t1_c2ql28e | null | 1427716154 | 22 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1318346485 | False | 0 | c2ql7qs | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql7qs | t1_c2ql1dd | null | 1427716156 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | partysnatcher | null | If the main intention of Dart is to provide an example of what JS ideally should look like, I am all for it. But I want my platform native, in the browser.
I want to visit my parents house, sit on their old Win 95-computer, make a program in Notepad and compile it with F5 in my browser. | null | 0 | 1318346635 | False | 0 | c2ql8j8 | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2ql8j8 | t1_c2ql5sj | null | 1427716167 | -4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | matthiasB | null | As JavaScript is Turing complete I can compile anything to JavaScript. The problem might be that it has to perform good enough for the real world. But do you think that they made all the decisions because of performance reasons?
edit: fixed a typo (see malkarouri) | null | 0 | 1318346730 | True | 0 | c2ql91h | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql91h | t1_c2qkq0z | null | 1427716173 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | frezik | null | That might be true, but I'm worried that Dart will get a bad reputation now that it won't be able to overcome. It's like how VMs got a reputation for being slow. Despite lots of hard work optimizing them and Moore's Law eating away at the problem on its own, it took decades before a language pushed VMs into the mainstr... | null | 0 | 1318346747 | False | 0 | c2ql94e | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2ql94e | t1_c2qkvth | null | 1427716174 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | neon_overload | null | I've thought about at least writing up a table that shows the closest jQuery and Neon equivalents.
I wouldn't want to give the impression that it is more compatible with jQuery than it is - some things could be made to work equivalently but it wouldn't be totally smooth emulation. Neon can still work alongside jQuery... | null | 0 | 1318346796 | True | 0 | c2ql9e7 | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2ql9e7 | t1_c2qkr1k | null | 1427716178 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Java dev here. Don't even get me started on the lack of delegates and lambdas, which C# has. C# learned from Java's mistakes. It is past the time that Java fixed those mistakes. Java 7 was a huge disappointment. The decision to not include closures was just dumb.
I'm also annoyed by dogmatic Java-programmers and fanbo... | null | 0 | 1318346809 | False | 0 | c2ql9gb | t3_l81mh | null | t1_c2ql9gb | t1_c2qk7n4 | null | 1427716178 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MatrixFrog | null | It's a work in progress. I much prefer they announce it with imperfect docs, rather than wait til it's done and can't be changed, *then* get feedback from the community. | null | 0 | 1318346840 | False | 0 | c2ql9nk | t3_l6u5q | null | t1_c2ql9nk | t1_c2qiaj3 | null | 1427716182 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | For some of us, groovy is not an option, especially if the codebase is already in Java. It's easier to bring in a library than use a new language. | null | 0 | 1318346864 | False | 0 | c2ql9r7 | t3_l81mh | null | t1_c2ql9r7 | t1_c2qkkpf | null | 1427716182 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | zomgsauce | null | Hahaha, says Perl. | null | 0 | 1318346912 | False | 0 | c2qla15 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qla15 | t3_l88ny | null | 1427716186 | -7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Taladar | null | Yeah, the last thing that was that much of a disappointment as a project was Diaspora in that the hype was followed by an absolutely unusable implementation. | null | 0 | 1318346953 | False | 0 | c2qla96 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qla96 | t1_c2qkt5s | null | 1427716189 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | shimei | null | Can you explain what complaints seemed to stem from his "idiomatic preferences" to you? I think he backed up his points with actual arguments based on what language designers have learned. | null | 0 | 1318346958 | False | 0 | c2qlaa0 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlaa0 | t1_c2qkdgi | null | 1427716189 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1318346973 | False | 0 | c2qlad9 | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qlad9 | t1_c2qkfex | null | 1427716191 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1318346983 | False | 0 | c2qlaf7 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlaf7 | t1_c2ql4df | null | 1427716191 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | 6_28 | null | I stand corrected, thanks. | null | 0 | 1318347008 | False | 0 | c2qlak8 | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qlak8 | t1_c2qkytm | null | 1427716193 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | shimei | null | > Dart having optional types is the only remotely interesting thing in a language that:
That's not even that interesting considering that there are languages that already support this in more powerful ways. Optional typing is also slated for inclusion in Perl 6. If it's a "third-party" sort of type-checking, that's... | null | 0 | 1318347083 | False | 0 | c2qlazr | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlazr | t1_c2ql28e | null | 1427716199 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | seydar | null | Think notation isn't important?
Newton and Leibniz. QED. | null | 0 | 1318347101 | False | 0 | c2qlb3b | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlb3b | t1_c2qkc0m | null | 1427716200 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | neon_overload | null | Don't forget people on phones/mobile devices.
But I think that pauliephonic was joking, given the winking smilie. | null | 0 | 1318347124 | False | 0 | c2qlb7i | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qlb7i | t1_c2qk1l4 | null | 1427716202 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | The biggest problem are "developers" that get entrenched in their language of choice and stubbornly refuse to acknowledge any other language or weaknesses with their own languages and frameworks.
It's like some .Net or Rails devs who, instead of learning to use a variety of tools, completely freak out when they perc... | null | 0 | 1318347136 | False | 0 | c2qlb9u | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlb9u | t1_c2ql4df | null | 1427716203 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | trezor2 | null | Unless it is *fast* and produces valid JS-output for *all* Dart-code (something the early presentations said it didn't), it will remain yet another non-standard web technology attempt from Google, funneled under the "it's not proprietary because Chromium is open source"-argument.
Needless to say, I'm not buying it. | null | 0 | 1318347180 | True | 0 | c2qlbiu | t3_l81fz | null | t1_c2qlbiu | t1_c2qjn49 | null | 1427716206 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | MainStorm | null | Yikes, I've had my code reviewed over 8 times already in 2 months.
Edit: Do you work in a large team or a small team? I think team sizes can affect how often a person gets his code reviewed. | null | 0 | 1318347273 | False | 0 | c2qlbyx | t3_l6yn1 | null | t1_c2qlbyx | t1_c2qj6ri | null | 1427716212 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | I thought the point was to compile it to javascript before deploying to the server. No? | null | 0 | 1318347298 | False | 0 | c2qlc5m | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qlc5m | t1_c2ql25z | null | 1427716214 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | hobbified | null | I'll let you in on a secret: a reddit is for whatever its community chooses to upvote and discuss. The moderators have the choice of either accepting that, deleting spam and abuse, and generally making things pleasant — or denying that, being dicks, and killing the community. | null | 0 | 1318347304 | False | 0 | c2qlc70 | t3_l6m5r | null | t1_c2qlc70 | t1_c2qe9wg | null | 1427716215 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1318347304 | False | 0 | c2qlc74 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlc74 | t3_l88ny | null | 1427716215 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1318347321 | False | 0 | c2qlca4 | t3_l82uf | null | t1_c2qlca4 | t3_l82uf | null | 1427716216 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | saksida | null | He never said testing makes code bug free. He said it gives you confidence that the code written is right, and that's exactly what it does. Testing proves that code *behaves* in a certain way. If code behaves as expected, then it's correct. A section of code might have a bug but still be right. In essence, unit testing... | null | 0 | 1318347369 | False | 0 | c2qlck5 | t3_l887z | null | t1_c2qlck5 | t1_c2qkraq | null | 1427716219 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Taladar | null | Using the identity function as a compiler would produce a better language. | null | 0 | 1318347508 | False | 0 | c2qldca | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qldca | t1_c2qkq0z | null | 1427716230 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ultraayla | null | I think you need to back that statement up. I bet the odds of any recent version of jquery being cached are excellent for most users of most sites. Even if it's not for a particular user, using the google code hosting version (unless you are combining with other js libs) better in order to avoid another http request, w... | null | 0 | 1318347520 | False | 0 | c2qldej | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qldej | t1_c2qk6ar | null | 1427716232 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | aazav | null | I am not claiming that you did. There is no need to even bring up strawman. | null | 0 | 1318347524 | False | 0 | c2qldfi | t3_l32qk | null | t1_c2qldfi | t1_c2qkozf | null | 1427716232 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mikesamuel | null | Yes. There are white-lists of elements and attributes and possibly transformation on attribute values. Anchor tags are allowed.
Here's a [testcase](http://code.google.com/p/owasp-java-html-sanitizer/source/browse/trunk/src/tests/org/owasp/html/HtmlPolicyBuilderTest.java#113) that shows a policy that allows just anch... | null | 0 | 1318347593 | False | 0 | c2qldt9 | t3_l7bjb | null | t1_c2qldt9 | t1_c2ql67d | null | 1427716236 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | noneedtoprogram | null | my \`ed\` (`ed`) looks exactly like my ed, is that just my system or is it meant to?
(Fedora14 64bit with Chrome)
Edit: Ah I notice a slight difference there, \``test-test-test`\` test-test-test. \` seems to make it monospace. | null | 0 | 1318347593 | False | 0 | c2qldtj | t3_l6xnp | null | t1_c2qldtj | t1_c2qhxkh | null | 1427716236 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | Hmph! My browser is written in standard 89 C which is a *newerer* and *betterer* more *powerfuler* than any other language (besides assembly which is *way* too new to use), therefore that means C is the most relevant language today. | null | 0 | 1318347687 | False | 0 | c2qlecz | t3_l7gl3 | null | t1_c2qlecz | t1_c2qkpbh | null | 1427716243 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | yogthos | null | pretty much | null | 0 | 1318347715 | False | 0 | c2qleid | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qleid | t1_c2ql7qs | null | 1427716245 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | __j_random_hacker | null | Had a quick look at *Algorithms* by Jeff Erickson and it looks to be a very nice collection of lecture notes. For such complex subject matter it has a pleasant conversational style, and I like the way he tries out possible solutions to problems, then explains why they didn't quite work, before moving on to better solu... | null | 0 | 1318347718 | False | 0 | c2qlej8 | t3_l742f | null | t1_c2qlej8 | t3_l742f | null | 1427716245 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | Taladar | null | Dart does not have any features useful enough that anyone would have trouble understanding them. The features it does have are barely worth calling them an abstraction at all. | null | 0 | 1318347748 | False | 0 | c2qleow | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qleow | t1_c2qkc0m | null | 1427716247 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | astrangeguy | null | yes, I meant static methods, static fields and static constructors that don't support any polymorphism. | null | 0 | 1318347813 | False | 0 | c2qlf26 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlf26 | t1_c2ql7ih | null | 1427716252 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | xardox | null | Great point! | null | 0 | 1318347979 | False | 0 | c2qlfyk | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlfyk | t1_c2qkiog | null | 1427716264 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | drguildo | null | Why is he awesome? I know practically nothing about OCaml. | null | 0 | 1318347998 | False | 0 | c2qlg27 | t3_l7gzj | null | t1_c2qlg27 | t3_l7gzj | null | 1427716265 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | >It's still pretty underoptimized
V8 executes Javascript as machine code. | null | 0 | 1318348006 | False | 0 | c2qlg3a | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qlg3a | t1_c2qk6tu | null | 1427716265 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | FearlessFreep | null | A Smalltalker asks is it was the syntax of LISP or the environment and corporate presence of LISP that made the difference in it's uptake | null | 0 | 1318348009 | False | 0 | c2qlg41 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlg41 | t1_c2qkiog | null | 1427716266 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | realnowhereman | null | Compare: [Lambda-J](http://code.google.com/p/lambdaj/) | null | 0 | 1318348015 | False | 0 | c2qlg5p | t3_l81mh | null | t1_c2qlg5p | t3_l81mh | null | 1427716266 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | astrangeguy | null | noticed this too now
what makes them much less useful is that there are no function types (except a basic 'Function' type which doesn't describe arity and/or types). So you can use higher order functions, but you have no safety or other benifits over JavaScript. | null | 0 | 1318348086 | False | 0 | c2qlgjq | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlgjq | t1_c2ql7l6 | null | 1427716271 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1318348128 | False | 0 | c2qlgs1 | t3_l8avy | null | t1_c2qlgs1 | t3_l8avy | null | 1427716274 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | FearlessFreep | null | > I wouldn't say it's a bad language, but a bad language might at least be interesting, which Dart isn't.
Which doesn't inherently mean it will or will not be a commercial or corporate success.
Dart may not be the 'language of the future' as far as pushing language design ideas ahead in good and interesting ways, ... | null | 0 | 1318348132 | False | 0 | c2qlgsr | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlgsr | t1_c2qkiug | null | 1427716275 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | xardox | null | [IT'S-IT](http://www.itsiticecream.com/)! | null | 0 | 1318348133 | False | 0 | c2qlgt2 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlgt2 | t1_c2ql02d | null | 1427716275 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | darrenkopp | null | c# guy here, works fine in c#. seems to me this is a bunch of java guys who are the ones afraid here, probably because they couldn't even get generics right. | null | 0 | 1318348143 | False | 0 | c2qlguz | t3_l8avy | null | t1_c2qlguz | t3_l8avy | null | 1427716275 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | skulgnome | null | Here, lemme straighten this out for you.
Dart is not "the language of the future", because in the future there will be C. Replace "Dart" with anything besides C, and it'll still hold. | null | 0 | 1318348260 | False | 0 | c2qlhhz | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlhhz | t3_l88ny | null | 1427716284 | -10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | NruJaC | null | Can you give an example of case 3 where the program makes semantic sense but fails a static type check? | null | 0 | 1318348277 | False | 0 | c2qlhl8 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlhl8 | t1_c2ql28e | null | 1427716286 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | mushishi | null | I don't understand why there should be any feature that should *wow* -- I wouldn't mind that, though. I expect a solid language that lets me express my ideas without ceremony, and if the compiler can help me make less mistakes it's a bonus.
The problems with Dart for me have not much to do with the lack of features; i... | null | 0 | 1318348361 | True | 0 | c2qli2o | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qli2o | t1_c2qkt5s | null | 1427716292 | 12 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | ianb | null | There are people experimenting with adding SPDY support for Firefox, and there's no strong opposition to this. But SPDY was around for a long time before that happened, and it's far less likely that Dart would ever get into Firefox. | null | 0 | 1318348368 | False | 0 | c2qli46 | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qli46 | t1_c2qk1t0 | null | 1427716292 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | atlacatl | null | > If code behaves as expected, then it's correct.
Not true.
> In essence, unit testing is about testing for behaviour.
? | null | 0 | 1318348511 | False | 0 | c2qliwb | t3_l887z | null | t1_c2qliwb | t1_c2qlck5 | null | 1427716302 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | chronoBG | null | Yes, but it's never nice when you get blamed that "you deleted my code!". | null | 0 | 1318348689 | False | 0 | c2qljvn | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qljvn | t1_c2qkdot | null | 1427716316 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | weavejester | null | I'm not quite sure if you're joking or not here. Why is it not concise? | null | 0 | 1318348714 | False | 0 | c2qlk0u | t3_l74f0 | null | t1_c2qlk0u | t1_c2qkew2 | null | 1427716317 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | b100dian | null | Thanks, - I understand now (after reading "Why not covariant generics?") that this is normal, and that the covariance is not. | null | 0 | 1318348782 | False | 0 | c2qlkfx | t3_l6uwv | null | t1_c2qlkfx | t1_c2qao41 | null | 1427716323 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | skulgnome | null | And be gentle, it's his _first_ language... | null | 0 | 1318348814 | False | 0 | c2qlkma | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlkma | t1_c2qkgs0 | null | 1427716325 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | tangra_and_tma | null | > What kind of history does it have; who are the main drivers behind the community, and how committed are they to continue development?
[Motion Twin](http://motion-twin.com/haxe/) is the force behind haxe, and as far as I know they're pretty committed. You might also want to look at StarInfidel's [games](http://www... | null | 0 | 1318348837 | False | 0 | c2qlkra | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qlkra | t1_c2qk6kj | null | 1427716327 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | [deleted] | null | >Developers like to think that they're clear minded and can reevaluate objectively when new information becomes available. Historically, this hasn't been the case.
You got that right. | null | 0 | 1318348889 | False | 0 | c2qll1i | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qll1i | t1_c2ql94e | null | 1427716331 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | b100dian | null | Agreed, I only meant they are not Java _specific_. If they would have had something like anonymous inner classes, maybe.. | null | 0 | 1318348891 | False | 0 | c2qll1x | t3_l6uwv | null | t1_c2qll1x | t1_c2qc452 | null | 1427716331 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | eaturbrainz | null | Silly shimei. Nobody actually listens to PL experts. | null | 0 | 1318348920 | False | 0 | c2qll7r | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qll7r | t1_c2qlaa0 | null | 1427716333 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | b100dian | null | What I responded to frezik, and yep: it feels like it, but also like the other languages I quoted. | null | 0 | 1318348940 | False | 0 | c2qllc7 | t3_l6uwv | null | t1_c2qllc7 | t1_c2qeuab | null | 1427716334 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | kyrsfw | null | The idea is to implement a Dart VM in the browser, independent from the JavaScript VM. But until browsers support Dart natively (if ever) Dart can be compiled to JavaScript to be used in current browsers. | null | 0 | 1318348951 | False | 0 | c2qlle1 | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qlle1 | t1_c2qlc5m | null | 1427716335 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | manuranga | null | yes, performance reasons.
not all, but many key decisions have been made for the sake of running efficiently on JavaScript.
e.g. : they are using an obscure type system because maintaining a syntactic run-time type system is inefficient | null | 0 | 1318348953 | False | 0 | c2qllea | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qllea | t1_c2ql91h | null | 1427716335 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | bedstraw | null | Good to see a nice, unbiased approach of a brand spanking new draft language from a socially and psychologically stable domain in the programming community... | null | 0 | 1318348964 | False | 0 | c2qllgb | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qllgb | t3_l88ny | null | 1427716336 | 25 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | animalchin99 | null | This is true, but if Dart is the thing that brings back "You must have <modern browser> version <recent version> or higher to view this page", than more power to them. Every browser but IE has pretty straightforward auto-updates now anyway. | null | 0 | 1318348977 | False | 0 | c2qllit | t3_l7wry | null | t1_c2qllit | t1_c2qkq2k | null | 1427716337 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | eaturbrainz | null | >Look at double dispatch, that was 'solved' in lisp by implementing multi-methods, so don't have to use the double dispatch design pattern and you can simplify your object representation as a result.
Well no, Common Lisp's Meta-Object Protocol makes multimethod dispatch incredibly complicated... but it did basicall... | null | 0 | 1318349020 | False | 0 | c2qllr4 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qllr4 | t1_c2ql433 | null | 1427716340 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | garoththorp | null | The day I take language design advice from someone hosted at perl... | null | 0 | 1318349106 | False | 0 | c2qlm99 | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlm99 | t3_l88ny | null | 1427716346 | 89 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
True | crusoe | null | Rich, coming from Perl, with its roots in AWK and SED? | null | 0 | 1318349128 | False | 0 | c2qlmdn | t3_l88ny | null | t1_c2qlmdn | t3_l88ny | null | 1427716348 | -6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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