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Shinhan
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And Indiana changes its daylight savings time borders often [[1]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indiana).
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kineticreality
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Yeah dude don't worry about them, they are all too high to care about computers.
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ipearx
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Indeed, quite often I like to use the '5 minutes ago' style labels combined with UTC in the database, then you don't need any timezone stuff at all.
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6_28
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Aha, thanks, that clears things up. Sounds reasonable.
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[deleted]
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Why can't the JS be put through Closure Compiler? The 61.8 KB would go down to 200 bytes...
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Gotebe
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Haha, when it comes to date/time calculations and local/UTC conversions, that's nothing. DST is where it gets hairy. Moments of some DST switches are just ridiculous (e.g. 1 second before midnight for Egypt, I think). Or to mention the whole "Second last thursday of October" or whatever.
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luckystarr
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I think they made the decision to make it look more like Java to give it a better chance at superseding JavaScript. It also has less limitations than Java as it's got proper first class functions. The major thing it got from Newspeak though is the optional type system.
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sod1864
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It's more a culture thing then lack of knowledge. In South Korea for example it is quite common for shops to open in the middle of the night, or stay open 24 hours. Compare that to say Ireland where you will be lucky if places are open at 9.
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Numberwang
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[I have a dream.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_Time)
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o1o1197o
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Will you continue to work on [Magpie](http://magpie.stuffwithstuff.com/)?
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the-fritz
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the time zone database is currently in legal troubles (was already discussed on r/programming a couple of days ago.) http://blog.joda.org/2011/10/today-time-zone-database-was-closed.html
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Gotebe
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Hey, you! Try spending a week on Mercury, Venus or Mars, then slog Earth off!
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marriage_iguana
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Wait... Astrologers are the bad guy? Why didn't you say so! *Grabs pitchfork and special "Astrologer Sniper Gun"* Why the special gun you ask? So they don't see it coming.
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iluvatar
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> Though if the astrologers do manage to permanently kill the Olson database They won't. At worst, I think they'll be forced to drop the historic (pre-1970) timezone information from the database.
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luckystarr
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Reminds me of [this post](http://objology.blogspot.com/2011/09/one-of-best-bits-of-programming-advice.html) which came through here a short while ago: *Don't make objects that end with 'er'.*
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tzdata bro, tzdata
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calibwam
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Why isn't the time zones zero indexed, uniformly divided? Doesn't anyone ever think of the coders?
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jmesserly
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There's a Timer class, IIRC.
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xlevus
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No. I couldn't give two shits what the number on the clock is when i wake up or go to sleep. Providing the former is shortly after sunrise and the latter shortly after sunset it makes no difference to me if I wake up at 10am or 3pm.
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iluvatar
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I'd be happy to declare UTC to be the one true global time. Yeah, so there would be a period of adjustment where parts of the world needed to get used to having breakfast at midnight, but it would be a massive step up from where we are now. Sadly, it'll never happen.
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Greenwich has 12 at noon because it has the zero meridian. But that really doesn't matter, because time is just a number and has no inherent meaning.
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It is still related to programming, atleast more than cupcakes with python logos on them.
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feureau
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>Every day I want to live on the Earth a little bit less \*cocks shotgun\* That can be arranged.
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feureau
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Wait, what? The Olson database is down?!
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osazuwa
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Can you summarize in a few sentences why Dart was created and why I ought to learn it? Cheers.
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mikaelhg
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How widely and seriously is Google committed to this?
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Mourningblade
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Coffeescript started out like this. "Try it now" has been a thing for a few languages now. Hell, LLVM had the Melloncat page for the longest time.
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When will it be available in Chrome, as in native not compile to JS (I can't find anything on that page regarding implementation status) ?
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mminich
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You cannot expect somebody to immediately start perceiving it from some other angle without giving any explanation/justification or examples. I would welcome article with explanation and justification why Dart's team made it's designs choices. As for the unsound type system, can you please explain where this is approac...
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piranha
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Well, if someone schedules an event to occur at 7:00PM on July 23, and they're in Pacific Time, then you'd better store it as 2012-07-23T19:00 America/Los_Angeles. Storing that time as UTC (2012-07-24T02:00Z) is equivalent to (just as bad as) storing that time with its timezone offset (2012-07-23T19:00-0700). * If a ...
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zubinmadon
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Hell, when going to a new area, you could find out what the local "Noon" is, in addition to Sunrise and Sunset.
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DGolden
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Well, it seems really quite unlikely their claims will hold up, especially (despite my "crazy american" cheap dig) in the USA - the USA already has pretty clear case law on the matter not favorable to the plaintiffs, as most news articles on the suit point out [e.g. wired's](http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/10/tim...
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taogepacs
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Yeah, I agree. It oughta just be added to kqueue. On NetBSD there's [kfilter_register](http://netbsd.gw.com/cgi-bin/man-cgi?kfilter_register+9+NetBSD-current) which could be used to add more features. It doesn't seem to exist on FreeBSD or OpenBSD though, so additions would need to be added more directly.
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[deleted]
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Yeah, curse you, Real World, for messing up my neat code.
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psankar
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Why are you still using Subversion ? https://code.google.com/p/dart/source/browse/branches/bleeding_edge/dart/client/samples/#samples%2Fslider please provide a single git url from where we can clone all the examples (and tutorial) in one command for offline usage. thanks.
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sloonark
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If you are going to go to the trouble of making a rage comic about it, at least spell the name of the islands correctly. Sheesh.
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piranha
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That's one way to stick your head in the sand.
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DownvoteALot
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At this rate, they are going to copyright mathematical formulas soon (if it hasn't already been done). After all, this is not really a work, this is just knowledge. And if you don't know the timezones by heart at birth, you're screwed. Go pay millions before you get to distribute your free software.
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[deleted]
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A bit better. Why have both forms? Also, could it have been var fred = Greeter(); ?
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robertcrowther
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How can you expect something as mundane as a gun to work against people who can *see* *the* *future*‽
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munificent
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We have a surprisingly large team of people on it. I don't know if I can go into specifics, but Google is giving it a harder push that I initially expected before I joined the team.
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ElGoorf
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TIL Nepal isn't the only country with a 3/4hr timezone shift
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DownvoteALot
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I think this thread deserves to be here too, but the rules say: >If there is no code in your link, it probably doesn't belong here. So, I don't know, maybe this subreddit isn't well defined. We may need to discuss these rules instead of breaking them beforehand.
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munificent
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In my free time like I've always done, yes! Maybe I'll port it to run on top of Dart now?
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marriage_iguana
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Becuase it's a special gun. I made that quite clear good sir or sirette. So they don't see it coming.
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c2q9qwy
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feureau
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**DAMN YOU ASTROLOGERS!!!!** *shakes fist*
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dmitry_sychov
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Brendan Eich can finally take a deep breath and relax - this lang will not fly high. I had actually to force myself to finish the spec - such a boring reading.
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UnoriginalGuy
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True. I also didn't write the Operating System or build the CPU myself. I am sticking my head in the sand and letting someone else do that work for me... For shame!
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poels6
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I do not see any google logo : http://golang.org/
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False
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slurpme
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That works for trivial stuff but when it comes to scheduling across time zones it kind of falls over...
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False
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munificent
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God, I wish we were using straight git. Still, git-svn isn't too bad. I think the [docs](https://code.google.com/p/dart/wiki/GettingTheSource) used to have git instructions but it looks like they got trounced in the rush to get everything ready for the release. I'll take a look when I get in in the morning and see if ...
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False
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denshi
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I think everyone missed your sarcasm.
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mikaelhg
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What's success?
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robertcrowther
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For most of the year Greenwich doesn't have 12 at noon, we have it at 1 instead.
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Why isn't Opera among the list of browsers?
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> I would welcome article with explanation and justification why Dart's team made it's designs choices. Said article is sitting on my hard drive and will be posted soon. At least, it's my take on it. But please understand that if you deeply love types, you may never love Dart any more than you like JavaScript, Pyt...
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piranha
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No, you're just using the wrong tool for the job if you're using that exclusively for time representation. Think hard about local time (user time) vs. Unix seconds-since-epoch time, time zones, time zone law changes, the conveyance of a certain time zone vs. zone offsets (America/Los_Angeles vs. -8:00), leap seconds, ...
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What if you have a method called Greeter()?
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jseigh
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You're thinking of Canada/NewFoundland maybe. The DST switch is 1 minute after midnight. So once a year it "repeats" the previous day for 59 minutes. Other fun stuff. Oracle 10i has the DST offset hard coded to 1 hour. So there's at least on short interval of the year that UTC to Australia/LHI conversions won'...
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Just a suggestion, how about this as shorthand: Greeter fred = new(); Since fred is defined to be of type Greeter, the compiler could infer which constructor to use.
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It is 2011 and language designers still repeat every single mistake made before? They mixed the worst parts of Java with the worst parts of JavaScript, congratulations. This: http://hackerne.ws/item?id=3092761 a thousand times!
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But NaCL preceded Go? I have to say the idea of making fast webapps using NaCL and Go is very appealing.
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flightsin
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Yeah, it's +12¾ hours, they're weird, so what? I fail to see how as a programmer this would be any different to you than any other time zone.
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strolls
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Sleeping through the day isn't really that healthy.
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kamatsu
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But it should be possible to write, for example, your own Arrow type (which may not necessarily be a function) and have it be correctly contravariant in argument type. The fact that you can't do this seems saddening to me. More languages with shitty type systems.
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All you need is the ability to convert between UTC and TZ-specific time. Any TZ library provides that. 1. Do date arithmetic and comparison **only** in UTC (this one is universally known and oft repeated). If you compare two TZ-specific time points, translate both to UTC first. 2. Translate between UTC and timezone sp...
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What was the original reason to mix the worst parts of Java with the worst parts of JavaScript? Just wondering, it is 2011 and language designers still repeat every single mistake made before? That can't be coincidence ...
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kamatsu
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You must never have read a language spec before.
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One small request, if I may: please add a clamp function in the math class. So for example to make sure that a variable a is between -1 and 1, you could do: a = Math.clamp( a, -1, 1 ); This would make me very happy.
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If we abolish time zones we obviously would also abolish daylight savings time.
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nepidae
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Actually timezones are fine and under the hood UTC works great. Explicit zones that do not change can easily be dealt with. Time itself is much more difficult to deal with because it can and will change. If you need synchronization using a vector clock that is not tied to IRL time works fine. The problem is that gener...
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DGolden
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AFAIK he did ignore demands from the plaintiffs (according to item 13 in their complaint), so I suspect he may be obeying some order from the court to shut it down temporarily (in court terms i.e. a long time in internet terms) until the case is heard rather than caving to them.
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Exactly. But it fits in the overall “We can't be bothered to do it right”-JavaScript style. See Generics.
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exclipy
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A few things that stood out upon reading [Idiomatic Dart](http://www.dartlang.org/articles/idiomatic-dart/): > Factories. They come into play when you need an instance of some class, but you want to be a little more flexible than just hard-coding a call to a constructor for some concrete type. Maybe you want to ret...
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earthboundkid
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Indiana hates your face timezone coders!
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sztomi
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Java? pfft. I'd take it any time over the Language of the Beast: Visual Basic.
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mushishi
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Types should be non-nullable by default. At least, there are a lot of code that don't want to deal with nulls; sometimes you even need to put explicit defensive guards because of nulls, which is ugly. It would be sensible to prevent the flow of accidental nulls as soon as possible.
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kamatsu
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I agree, this language is basically terrible, but I still think it is a marginal improvement over JS. My gripes so far seem to be my usual gripes with Bracha's work - disregard for type soundness being chief among them (I mean, technically Haskell's type system is not sound but Bracha seems to think that violating type...
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snottlebocket
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The man kept and maintained a globally used database since 1986, free of charge. But you feel justified in calling him a spineless douche because he doesn't want to risk a lawsuit that could potentially ruin his life? Maybe you ought to step up and volunteer to do it for the next 26 years if you think you're a better ...
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No, I can't. I don't really believe in "ought", and I can't speak for the motivations of the creators. But here's what I like about it: It's syntax, while uninspiring, is familiar and easy to pick up for millions of programmers. I wish it had a little more razzle dazzle but I can't deny that literally on my first day ...
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earthboundkid
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Places where the date change happens in the afternoon would get all annoyed by it. "Let's have the meeting on 24th. Unless we do it in the afternoon (or whatever word replaces this? "After lunch"?), then it'll be the 25th."
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> has less limitations than Java as it's got proper first class functions. Also: getters, setters, overloadable operators, subscript operators, array and map literals, and some other stuff I'm forgetting.
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kamatsu
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If they added this feature, I would be able to put up with the hilariously bad generics.
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papajohn56
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No, it's a lack of knowledge. Just because one culture does something doesn't mean all do, and they should stop being ignorant.
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Well it's a toy example, not production code... I'm sure "Hello World" should probably support localizing the message string too.
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mminich
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I found static typing practical and necessary for larger programs. But I really like JavaScript and dynamically typed languages for the flexibility you can write your programs. I think better design of type system would provide more convenience for users because library writers would be able to design libraries to feel...
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earthboundkid
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DST is so stupid. Dear governments of the world, If you want people to do stuff an hour earlier or later, just open your offices at a different time, and force the TV stations to shift by an hour. All the other businesses will shift themselves. DO NOT FUCK WITH OUR CLOCKS.
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igor_sk
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I once had to debug a crash in our program which only happened at a remote installation in New Zealand. No matter how we tried, we could not reproduce it locally. After a couple of hours of maddeningly slow stepping in disassembly and restarting I did figure it out. Apparently because of daylight saving the UTC differe...
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Go to bed when it's dark outside, disregard the numbers on your clock.
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bigdood69
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This language looks profoundly boring. No ruby-style blocks?
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TheSmoke
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why semicolons, oh why?
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Gigablah
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So you're going to lash out at people like a petulant child?
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mminich
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I noticed there are two ways of defining functions. max () => ... max () { ... } What is the rationale for using two different syntaxes. When shold I use one or other? Isn't it better to choose only one ?
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MarshallBanana
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> I thought PHP taught us that string interpolation is a security risk. Only in the specific contexts of building SQL queries and textual representations of HTML. I assume Dart will be doing very little of either.
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